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Title: Stirlanders project
Post by: albanyadriel on February 11, 2009, 04:21:23 AM
so i decided after having most of the khorne mortals done to begin my new project. . . stirlanders! the army list will be posted soon but will revolve heavily around spearmen, swords men and free company detachments, the army is not going to include any handguns but only crossbows and a single cannon. flagellants and a gold wizard will also be in this army. so without further ado some WIP pics of the units, no bases though i am starting them on 20mm then moving to the regimental bases for easier use.

(http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo71/Albanyadriel/Stirlanders/IMG_0143.jpg)
(http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo71/Albanyadriel/Stirlanders/IMG_0144.jpg)
(http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo71/Albanyadriel/Stirlanders/IMG_0145.jpg)

sorry about the large pics, i'll work on that on future updates

C&C very much welcome

~albanyadriel
Title: Re: Stirlanders project
Post by: Dannyfave on February 11, 2009, 06:52:38 AM
Wonerfull yellow and wonderfull green!!!

Dude good job, kinda makes me want to paint one of my unpainted regiments as stirlanders.... the hillbilly 88th or something :wink:
Title: Re: Stirlanders project
Post by: Wolfenbaum on February 12, 2009, 02:30:37 PM
I really like this. The dirty green and yellow makes me think of poverty and war against the undead on some muddy field. Troops lying dead half burried in the mud, and others slipping on them. A fire wizard trying to encourage the troops "Stand firm men, that wich is dead may still burn!" (anyone know where i got that from?). I would love some muddy sort of base on these. Keep it up!  :eusa_clap:
Title: Re: Stirlanders project
Post by: Albrecht von Hinkel on February 12, 2009, 02:52:26 PM
I love the picture you're referring to Wolfenbaum. The old army book had such great artwork.
Title: Re: Stirlanders project
Post by: albanyadriel on February 13, 2009, 02:10:35 AM
Thanks for the positive feedback!  :happy: a muddy base would look nice i agree any suggestions on how to build?
Title: Re: Stirlanders project
Post by: Wolfenbaum on February 13, 2009, 08:17:45 AM
Have never made muddy bases. But what comes to my mind is something ike this: Smear some modelling putty on the base, not to gently trying to make it look like mud. Paint this in some dark brown with some minor highlight. I would then paint this with gloss varnishand to makt it look wet. Finally glue small turfs of static grass here and there, but not to much.

Could that work?
Title: Re: Stirlanders project
Post by: albanyadriel on February 13, 2009, 01:25:35 PM
It's a good idea but a little unfeasible as i have very little green stuff and 250+ models to paint for this army, what about a dark brown sand coat that has been inked with the dry static grass that stands straight up?
Title: Re: Stirlanders project
Post by: Dannyfave on February 13, 2009, 04:45:06 PM
If you are going to matte varnish the models I would say to ink the base after you do so so as it will keep a wet look.

That will work for the amount of models that you have going....you realy can't spend to much time basing on a semi-horde army like empire.
Title: Re: Stirlanders project
Post by: steveb on February 13, 2009, 05:10:44 PM
try mixing your ground work material with a little white glue, add some brown paint to the glue and a little static grass until you have a semi thick consistency and then use knife blade to apply it to your bases, it is fast and effective, when dry you can ad some gloss varnish to spots to make it look extra wet, make sure you put a little on the lower legs and hems of robes, but do it sparingly because it is very easy to overdo it. I hope this helps. steveb
Title: Re: Stirlanders project
Post by: albanyadriel on February 13, 2009, 07:27:58 PM
Neat idea, I'll try it tonight and post pics!
Title: Re: Stirlanders project
Post by: albanyadriel on February 14, 2009, 07:43:39 AM
Didn't end up trying out the bases but i did get to finish another model, My Gold Wizard! i was so psyched to paint this guy up and i think he came out pretty good. the gold on his face was disappointing until i gave it a second chestnut ink wash and it got some more depth.

Here he is:
(http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo71/Albanyadriel/Stirlanders/IMG_0152.jpg)
(http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo71/Albanyadriel/Stirlanders/IMG_0151.jpg)
(http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo71/Albanyadriel/Stirlanders/IMG_0150.jpg)
(http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo71/Albanyadriel/Stirlanders/IMG_0149.jpg)

C&C more than welcome

Cheers,
Albanyadriel
Title: Re: Stirlanders project
Post by: warhammerlord_soth on February 14, 2009, 10:18:34 AM
A fire wizard trying to encourage the troops "Stand firm men, that wich is dead may still burn!" (anyone know where i got that from?).

Dark Omen
Title: Re: Stirlanders project
Post by: warhammerlord_soth on February 14, 2009, 10:23:32 AM
Great start of an army Albanyadriel !

Looking forward to seeing it grow. It will look great when deployed in all its glory.
Title: Re: Stirlanders project
Post by: albanyadriel on February 18, 2009, 02:41:02 AM
New pics: just finished 4 more spearmen the command is next.

(http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo71/Albanyadriel/Stirlanders/IMG_0163.jpg)

and what i have finished so far

10 Spearmen
1 Gold Mage

(http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo71/Albanyadriel/Stirlanders/IMG_0165.jpg)

(http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo71/Albanyadriel/Stirlanders/IMG_0166.jpg)

C&C very welcome

~albanyadriel
Title: Re: Stirlanders project
Post by: Dannyfave on February 18, 2009, 03:08:34 AM
Great start of an army Albanyadriel !

Looking forward to seeing it grow. It will look great when deployed in all its glory.

Thats the first that I have seen the word glory while referencing a Stirland army...
Title: Re: Stirlanders project
Post by: albanyadriel on February 19, 2009, 07:47:32 AM
Just finished the Command for the Spearmen Unit and i have to say I am quite happy with the result. The unit is currently 15 man strong and soon to be 30 man but before i finish the unit i will do 15 swordsmen starting. . . tommorrow  :biggriin: without further ado:

The new guys:
(http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo71/Albanyadriel/Stirlanders/IMG_0178.jpg)

The Standard side 1:
(http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo71/Albanyadriel/Stirlanders/IMG_0179.jpg)

and the otherside:
(http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo71/Albanyadriel/Stirlanders/IMG_0180.jpg)

The unit as a whole with command:
(http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo71/Albanyadriel/Stirlanders/IMG_0187.jpg)
(http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo71/Albanyadriel/Stirlanders/IMG_0184.jpg)

I like it. I sort of just free handed the banner without any real design in mind, just did what came to me.

Next up 15 swordsmen!. . . . .not all at once! but soon! Update in 1-2 days!

C&C very welcome

cheers!

~albanyadriel
Title: Re: Stirlanders project
Post by: warhammerlord_soth on February 19, 2009, 07:54:00 AM
Looking great, apart from the mouldlines. Do take the time to clean these up before painting, you'll find it worthwhile.
Title: Re: Stirlanders project
Post by: Shadowwolf on February 19, 2009, 12:28:11 PM
Those checkers on the drum are fantastic! (http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f399/DLShadowwolf/Smileys/stir2thumbs.gif) How did you make them?

Shadowwolf
Title: Re: Stirlanders project
Post by: albanyadriel on February 19, 2009, 04:16:02 PM
Yep, I remember to do the ones on the legs but always forget the arms! gaaah! but 'tis the learning process.

@shadowwolf: thanks! I first did 3 lines coming across the face of the drum in my darkest green color and then 3 more (evenly spaced obviously) perpendicular to the first 3. I filled in alternating squares with the darker color and then just put less and less of the lighter colors while only showing a teeny bit of the previous layer. Then I repeated the process with the stirlander "dirty" yellow mix I use. simple and easy to do!
Title: Re: Stirlanders project
Post by: albanyadriel on February 22, 2009, 08:01:41 AM
Just finished my Captain, I did just a minor head swap and added a shield to the back I think he came out nicely.

Captain:
(http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo71/Albanyadriel/Stirlanders/IMG_0195.jpg)

Close up:
(http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo71/Albanyadriel/Stirlanders/IMG_0194.jpg)

and the Back:
(http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo71/Albanyadriel/Stirlanders/IMG_0192.jpg)

and a preview of what is to come!
(http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo71/Albanyadriel/Stirlanders/IMG_0196.jpg)

C&C very much welcome!

~albanyadriel
Title: Re: Stirlanders project
Post by: Orion on February 22, 2009, 09:31:47 AM
Um...I really like the colors of this Stirland army...specially the dirty yellow. The champion is a improve over the original...I never liked that head and the one you have used suits very well.

Just a minor comment: The letters on the banner are bit too small...hard to read 'stirland'...
Title: Re: Stirlanders project
Post by: albanyadriel on February 23, 2009, 03:26:37 AM
Yeah i did do them to small for them to be read but i figured they looked good and didn't want to mess with the look, thanks for the compliment! and for those waiting here is the finished swordsmen!

(http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo71/Albanyadriel/Stirlanders/IMG_0197.jpg)

(http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo71/Albanyadriel/Stirlanders/IMG_0199.jpg)

(http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo71/Albanyadriel/Stirlanders/IMG_0202.jpg)

C and C very welcome!
Title: Re: Stirlanders project
Post by: Dannyfave on February 23, 2009, 05:10:27 AM
Maybe for the hair,

some of the blond guys' hair looks the same as your uniform yellow... maybe add a bleached bone highlight to their hair as it will differenciate between the two....

Why aren't you on the Back table helping out the Stirlanders... they are taking some punishment.     
Title: Re: Stirlanders project
Post by: Siberius on February 23, 2009, 08:28:52 AM
Just popped by to say this is looking really good.

The wizard in particular caught my attention  8-).
Title: Re: Stirlanders project
Post by: faeg nad teli on February 23, 2009, 10:40:21 AM
Nice going, a bit too much ink for my taste, but it works.

For the muddy bases I would make a mix on the base. For example do 2/3 of the base with sand and when that is dry the other part with PVA/wood glue and paint/ink that a brown. It makes for a real mud pool.

What you could do then is make a mudstream flowing through the entire regiment.
Title: Re: Stirlanders project
Post by: albanyadriel on March 10, 2009, 03:16:25 AM
OK haven't updated in a while but lately I have been busy (school and whatnot) so here is the latest 6 swordsmen i have completed. 4 more RnF and the command and i got another finished one. I know i haven't done anything with the bases but without a completed army list and missing the 40mm unit fillers i can't make that much progress without them. so basing is likely to happen in the future. but right now i am content to complete units and prepare for the work ahead!

swordsmen
(http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo71/Albanyadriel/Stirlanders/IMG_1901.jpg)

(http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo71/Albanyadriel/Stirlanders/IMG_1902.jpg)

(http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo71/Albanyadriel/Stirlanders/IMG_1903.jpg)

(http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo71/Albanyadriel/Stirlanders/IMG_1904.jpg)

and the army shot of the completed models
(http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo71/Albanyadriel/Stirlanders/IMG_1898.jpg)

C and C welcome! more updates to come!

~albanyadriel
Title: Re: Stirlanders project
Post by: Valetus on March 10, 2009, 12:45:50 PM
Looking very good so far. Especially like the head swap on the greatsword. I had used a knight's head on mine but im considering swapping it now, two days after painting it and all... :unsure: One word of advice is that models always look much better when based so I can see these looking even better soon. Incidently I find that basing models as I finish them helps me get it sone as I can never face a lot of them in one go.
Title: Re: Stirlanders project
Post by: albanyadriel on April 21, 2009, 01:04:36 PM
Back from a long Hiatus! (busy pumping out some disciples of Khorne for a tournament and the ol' lads got forgotten *tear*. BUT! they finally got some love this past weekend and i made some progress.

Light Wizard:
(http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo71/Albanyadriel/Stirlanders/IMG_2213.jpg)
(http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo71/Albanyadriel/Stirlanders/IMG_2214.jpg)
(http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo71/Albanyadriel/Stirlanders/IMG_2215.jpg)

and the banner and musician for the Swordsmen unit:
(http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo71/Albanyadriel/Stirlanders/IMG_2218.jpg)
(http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo71/Albanyadriel/Stirlanders/IMG_2219.jpg)
(http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo71/Albanyadriel/Stirlanders/IMG_2220.jpg)

and the next project:
(http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo71/Albanyadriel/Stirlanders/IMG_2212.jpg)

They are a different color because I ran out of chestnut ink. and finding chestnut nowadays is harder than finding gold. the citadel washes just don;t do the job proper as the inks used to...*tear*

but anyways! the army is looking good and I plan to start with the basing in about a week or so.

C and C welcome!

~cheers,

Albanyadriel
Title: Re: Stirlanders project
Post by: Neffy on April 21, 2009, 01:28:25 PM
I like your painting, and love the colours and patterns, but to me it seems that your paint is a bit to thick. try watering it down before painting. Im mostly thinking on the wizards white robes..

apart from that i really like your work. great job!
Title: Re: Stirlanders project
Post by: albanyadriel on April 21, 2009, 02:23:10 PM
Thanks for the compliments!

I have noticed the same problem with the thick paint but have been unable to alleviate it much. i find that i am always straddling the line between to thick and too watery. i began mixing paints for a death wizard i have done but find the same problem recurring. I think it might be the paints I use (they are getting on in age) combined with my painting style. I heard Vallejo paints work better for mixing because of the dropper system. any thoughts?
Title: Re: Stirlanders project
Post by: Priest_of_Morr on April 21, 2009, 08:42:21 PM
They look fantastic dude really cool!! love the colours  :happy:
Title: Re: Stirlanders project
Post by: Ad A Dglgmut on April 22, 2009, 01:06:34 AM
Thanks for the compliments!

I have noticed the same problem with the thick paint but have been unable to alleviate it much. i find that i am always straddling the line between to thick and too watery. i began mixing paints for a death wizard i have done but find the same problem recurring. I think it might be the paints I use (they are getting on in age) combined with my painting style. I heard Vallejo paints work better for mixing because of the dropper system. any thoughts?

They do (Vallejo paints), but not so much that that makes them an obvious choice over other paints.  It helps, but it's not too hard to take an empty pallet and dip your brush in the paint pot and let it drip off the brush onto the pallet.  Now, I prefer Vallejo a whole lot over GW paint because I find it is, straight out of the container, thinner and easier to spread, it dries faster (which can or cannot be a good thing, but I prefer it), I like the dripper bottles better, and I prefer the colors overall. 

Now, I must say, I love your style (which seems simplistic really), of a kinda dirt look to the uniforms, and figures in general.  And really, the paint only seems noticably thicker on the banners, which is a common thing for someone who hasn't done a lot of free hand painting (my first banners were the exact same way).  All you need to do now is base them! :smile2:
Title: Re: Stirlanders project
Post by: albanyadriel on April 25, 2009, 05:00:28 AM
Just finished the Flagellants and a dead/shadow wizard. as it is late at night i'll get right to the pics!

Flagellants:
(http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo71/Albanyadriel/Stirlanders/IMG_2224.jpg)
(http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo71/Albanyadriel/Stirlanders/IMG_2225.jpg)
(http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo71/Albanyadriel/Stirlanders/IMG_2226.jpg)

and some pics of the death/shadow wizard:
(http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo71/Albanyadriel/Stirlanders/IMG_2221.jpg)
(http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo71/Albanyadriel/Stirlanders/IMG_2222.jpg)
(http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo71/Albanyadriel/Stirlanders/IMG_2228.jpg)

C and C welcome!

Title: Re: Stirlanders project
Post by: Beastlord Karankawa on April 25, 2009, 05:25:21 AM
Great looking work thus far.  You are very brave to chose yellow as one of your main colors (mine seems to always turn out horrid).  How did you get your yellow so clean?
Title: Re: Stirlanders project
Post by: warhammerlord_soth on April 25, 2009, 07:17:57 AM
Outstanding job !

Go Stirlanders !
Title: Re: Stirlanders project
Post by: albanyadriel on April 25, 2009, 12:10:53 PM
Thanks for the positive feedback!

How did you get your yellow so clean?

it's not actually yellow at all! I start with a base coat of white, then chestnut ink, snakebite leather, bronzed flesh and finally bubonic brown.