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Title: PikeConversionQuestion
Post by: badpixie on April 11, 2010, 03:56:53 PM
I don't yet own a box of the current plastic state troops.

Are either the spear or sword arms options amenable to replacing the moulded weapon with a metal pike pointing straight up into the air or over the shoulder. Or do the figure positions make this impractical anyway?
Title: Re: PikeConversionQuestion
Post by: King on April 11, 2010, 03:58:40 PM
Yes you can do this easily as the arms do lend themselves to pike conversions with a bit of drilling and posing.
Title: Re: PikeConversionQuestion
Post by: jullevi on April 12, 2010, 12:06:12 AM
I have to disagree with the previous poster. I can't think of any bit in the current state troop kit that would lend itself easily into pike conversion. The poses aren't even suitable for what they are meant to represent, let alone anything else.
Title: Re: PikeConversionQuestion
Post by: Ludowik of Bogenhafen on April 12, 2010, 01:44:53 PM
Probably you have already seen this, but if not take a look at these:

http://www.warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=25790.0 (http://www.warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=25790.0)

maybe you could add a last rank of last editions spearmen, but this is already a quit good    hedgehog (funny name, but leo.org transletes this way  :roll:)
Title: Re: PikeConversionQuestion
Post by: Noble Korhedron on April 14, 2010, 03:08:00 AM
T.B.H, perhaps leo.org was referring to the Scottish "schiltrom" or "hedgehog" formation?! This was a medieval Scottish formation used to great effect against English Knights for over 2 centuries, particularly at Bannockburn in 1314.
Title: Re: PikeConversionQuestion
Post by: Cannonofdoom on April 14, 2010, 04:31:19 AM
But not so great at Falkirk.
Title: Re: PikeConversionQuestion
Post by: Noble Korhedron on April 14, 2010, 04:33:01 AM
But not so great at Falkirk.
Was Falkirk not before Bannockburn?! I thought Falkirk was fought by Wallace, Bannockburn of course by Bruce?!
Title: Re: PikeConversionQuestion
Post by: warhammerlord_soth on April 14, 2010, 09:15:15 AM
http://www.warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=16132.msg370027#msg370027
Title: Re: PikeConversionQuestion
Post by: smaug123uk on April 14, 2010, 12:09:40 PM
But not so great at Falkirk.
Was Falkirk not before Bannockburn?! I thought Falkirk was fought by Wallace, Bannockburn of course by Bruce?!

battle of stirling bridge.........1297
battle of falkirk....................1298
battle of bannockburn..........1314
declaration of arbroath........1320
Title: Re: PikeConversionQuestion
Post by: Cannonofdoom on April 15, 2010, 01:55:03 AM
When the Scots Schiltrom'd up at Falkirk, Lord Comyns quit the field, taking all his cavalry with him, allowing the English King Edward to simply order the Welsh Longbowmen they had brought with them to completely decimate the pike formations. Wallace resigned as Guardian of Scotland after this battle.
Title: Re: PikeConversionQuestion
Post by: smaug123uk on April 15, 2010, 09:39:18 AM
When the Scots Schiltrom'd up at Falkirk, Lord Comyns quit the field, taking all his cavalry with him, allowing the English King Edward to simply order the Welsh Longbowmen they had brought with them to completely decimate the pike formations. Wallace resigned as Guardian of Scotland after this battle.
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yes true the traitor Comyns cowardly retreated from the field with his 30 pieces of silver , but due to Wallaces scorched earth policy edwards army had to retreat to Carlisle to try & regroup , but the troops were hungry & started to desert & the english barons were not swayed by promise of more land & gold by edward so he had no choice but to retreat to the south leaving Scotland unconquered