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The Empire at War ... The Gamers Guild => WHFB The Electors' Forum => WFB 8th & EoT => Topic started by: WallyTWest on May 09, 2016, 12:32:21 AM
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Well... I gave up. Warhammer is now officially dead in the greater context of my gaming and local hobby scene. I was the last hold out. I ordered dragon rampant hoping to salvage some of my fantasy gaming but I have the gut feeling that my days of mass fantasy battles are done... I'm sorry my friends. It's a fight I have lost.
I've switched over to some great alternatives. I've had the oprtunity to explore Strange Aeons - it's been a ton of fun. It's allowed me to enjoy some of my Call of Cthulhu roots and X-Files stile gaming. In addition I've been playing lots of Frostgrave; I really recomend it, I find it satisfying and it allows me to enjoy decent skirmish gaming in a club environment. X-Wing Campaigns have become the centerpiece of gaming events I host- and on the whole I have increased the number of Boardgames played- including a recent string of Memoir 44, Kings Forge, March of the Ants and other games have blessed me with some really great gaming experiences recently. Just played some Deadzone and Uncharted seas too! I've been lucky, I've had more opportunity for gaming recently, but WHFB stands like a doomed shadow atop of my gaming shelves. Unloved and with thousands of points unassembled.
What have you cats been up to lately? Pics or it didn't happen!
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Necromunda...
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Mostly at this point using just self built terrain. I love the old card buildings but they aren't exactly gritty. Yaktribe provides an amazing resource for record keeping too. Here's our campaign...
https://yaktribe.org/necromunda/campaign/view/2027/Hive+Wars (https://yaktribe.org/necromunda/campaign/view/2027/Hive+Wars)
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I ran as far away from it(ET & AoS) as I could while still playing recognisable WHF - right now that means Mordheim warbands aplenty, but if & when I do dig out and finish a WHFB army it will be set in fluff terms around that same time, the Age of Three Emperors/Vampire Wars era.
I've no real interest in other games; I got into tabletop for the WHF/40K settings, and I can't just swap them out for something vaguely similar in the same way that liking Lord of the Rings films doesn't mean I'd be interested in going to see Twilight even if they're nominally related in genre and both part of the same format(film vs tabletop games).
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I'm getting into historicals, specifically Ancients (Hail Caesar). I'm finishing up my first couple of units now, and will post pics when they're done.
I'm also considering having a bit of a clearout and selling some of the WHF stuff which I know I'm never going to use. I'll hang onto a lot of it but there's no point my having so many hundreds of figures (mostly Empire) I'm most likely now never going to paint let alone deploy on the table. I'll be selling some of it over the coming weeks/months; I'll stick up a post in the trading forum to let people know what's available.
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X-Wing.
Building my own fantasy gaming ruleset as a hobby too.
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Pics or it didn't happen Warlord & Deuce.
*Freaking sweet Necro bro!
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I have continued exactly as before, at the same (admittedly slow) pace, with my Tilean Campaign - painting, modelling, GMing, photographing and story-writing, even the occasional 8th ed battle, with all the same folk. TBH, I did not feel like I was really part of the 8th ed WFB scene before it died, what with the way we do things (campaign army lists and my own take on the Warhammer world, well, Tilea at least) and what with not attending a club or store. Whenever I tried attending such clubs, the folk didn't really 'get' what I was doing anyway!
As pics are required, here's a sneak peek preview the upcoming (and in production now) end of season reports ...
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Last year, I played some 7th ed and Kings of War.
But the 9th Age really strikes me as a good version of WHFB, built on the 8th ed engine. Had three games this spring and planning for more.
Figure-wise, it's puffy sleeves and beards for me. My 300 painted Empire models are only a fifth of my collection, and it took 7.5 years to get this far. So I'm counting 30 more years of WHFB Empire hobby before I run out of stuff. Some scenery to make too. Not to speak of all the other armies I've hoarded over the years. I could basically start a club of my own if I wasn't already a member of a club... :-)
But not looking back to GW as it is now. Yet even that might change, if they put out something interesting again, at an affordable price. Never say never.
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Padre- you're a monster and one of my greatest inspirations on this forum. You're content alone is what keeps me coming back month after month. I owe ya a beer (or a sandwich) if I'm ever in the area again. You're awesome, and one of the greatest contributors to this hobby that I know of. You bring out the art of miniatures.
Zygmund & @ Future Posts- pics or I have to assume you're making up stories.
Nobody does any other gaming? Everyone just looks at their pile of plastic and mutters a sigh?
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Pics or it didn't happen Warlord & Deuce.
*Freaking sweet Necro bro!
Well, if you insist...
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Romans at the back; Balearic slingers in front. Both still need a couple of touch-ups, and basing, and the Romans are also waiting on shields. More Balearic slingers, plastic this time, in the pile to right of frame, who will be next.
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Still painting Empire, Undead Legion, Khone warriors, and some Skaven for a friend.
Still playing 8th Edition Warhammer and loving it.
Promoting the hobby wherever possible and planning to run a mega-game of warhammer at a GT in the fall.
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Ha! I dropped Warhammer with the dawn of 8th. Never really looked back.
In its place I do complicated Mordheim style campaigns set in Lustria, Araby or the Border Princes. The current campaign:
Big Toof
http://boringmordheimforum.forumieren.com/t8640-big-toof
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Still using 8th (with house rules) to run a TK vs Dwarfs campaign:
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I've been playing a lot of board games as well - Chaos in the Old World, Evolution and The Grizzled being some of my favourites.
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What have I been up to after he End Times? same thing I was up to before the End Times: playing warhammer 8 (and painting decent-sized units for it). Admittedly, there are less people around who are keeping with the program but, still enough for now.
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For the unbeliveres:
March: Empire vs. Dwarfs
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March: Empire vs. Empire
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April: Empire vs. Dwarfs
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It's 1-1 now between the Empire and the Dwarfs, so there must be a final match to decide. There are still many good people playing WH I haven't gamed with. So looking forward for a lively hobby scene this year.
Other than that, some ten sessions of epic roleplaying this year. And lots and lots of play/game talk with friends.
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Well since I don't have pictures, I must not be gaming! :icon_eek:
Not. Mostly historical nowadays, although I haven't given up on fantasy or sci-fi yet.
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I don't give up quite so easily, apparently.
I've dabbled in Kings of War, but recently started up a narrative 8th edition campaign using Albion as the setting. That's been consuming a disproportionate amount of my time because I do most of the writing and organising. It's all up on the blog:
http://hoodlinghole.blogspot.com.au/p/albion-campaign.html (http://hoodlinghole.blogspot.com.au/p/albion-campaign.html)
Also, a pic. Since that seems to be a requirement... :-P
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Wait, I thought it was the "End of Times"?
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Recently came back to assembling/painting my Empire, thanks to one of my friends. Other than that, I'm playing more and more 40K and expanding my 30K Alpha Legion force. I even bought a Knight not so long ago.
We plan to launch a massive campaign of 40K in two months time. The Planetary Expansions has been already bought and is ready to go.
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Well, I've pretty much dropped all of my hobbying for now since my quadruplets have turned one and are taking up all of my time. Still, everyone in my area has quit. I was the main person pushing it here. I think there are several people who will pick it back up if I ask them to, but I just don't have half a day to devote to 8th right now.
I'll hang on to all of my models and teach my kids how to play 8th once they are old enough though. Until then most of my gaming days are over. I'll probably play the occasional Heroclix game every now and then (since I already have several thousand) but other games just don't interest me at all. It takes a lot of effort for me to start something new and I have to have my curiosity at a peak to investigate it. I pushed really hard as soon as the ET started to collect everything is ever want to play with and give myself years of future hobby work because I believed that GW was going to do exactly what they did. So moving forward, 8th edition will still be my game, but I won't be attacking it the way I have been.
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It's very sad to read some of the comments here... why Warhammer Fantasy is dead?? Ok, GW will not produce more books any longer (or not... see below).
But guys, how many years for the last update of CHESS? And obviously, there are a lot of people still playing chess!
You or your community really needs a company behind the game? Why?
I love warhammer. I played many other games but nothing like Warhammer. I love its background, its atmosphere, its map, its rules... And I and my friends will continue playing. In fact, I was really annoyed with GW, since lasts years for tones of reasons (meanly, language policy).
What we can do now?
1) Continue to play 8th edition
2) Play 7th edition (or other)
3) Use 9th Age ------ my choice
4) Wait until GW changes his policy and be prepared for the return of warhammer. Something I am sure will happens
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It's very sad to read some of the comments here... why Warhammer Fantasy is dead?? Ok, GW will not produce more books any longer (or not... see below).
But guys, how many years for the last update of CHESS? And obviously, there are a lot of people still playing chess!
You or your community really needs a company behind the game? Why?
I love warhammer. I played many other games but nothing like Warhammer. I love its background, its atmosphere, its map, its rules... And I and my friends will continue playing. In fact, I was really annoyed with GW, since lasts years for tones of reasons (meanly, language policy).
What we can do now?
1) Continue to play 8th edition
2) Play 7th edition (or other)
3) Use 9th Age ------ my choice
4) Wait until GW change his policy and prepare for the return of warhammer. Something I am sure will happens
If TW: Warhammer will become a huge success, I hope that they'll bring back WFB back. But I also know that this is probably just wishful thinking.
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Its the only glimmer of hope left.
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Its the only glimmer of hope left.
Sometimes a glimmer is all it takes. ;)
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Oddly enough, my return to the hobby came in around the End Times. It started as just painting a few individual figures, but grew out of hand. I've been planning and overthinking a narrative campaign in an alternate Warhammer setting, ten years after Marienburg's independence. Rules will most likely not be WFB, but I have also been overthinking the mechanics of playing it as solo or remote opponent(s) (online) games. To that end, I've been painting and terrain building late at night, as time allows.
I even met up with some old friends and played a couple of KoW games -- my first gaming in something like 4 years. Not my favorite game, but it was a good game to play some decent sized battles with our old Warhammer armies. Rules are easy enough that I caught on pretty quick - good for someone who can only meet up for games every few years! :wink:
Pics/happening:
(KoW with friends)
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(Just setting up a scene on my table, to see what playing games might look like)
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@023- Ye gods that is my favorite Marenburg army... Ever... Possibly fav army on the Internet...
@GP- Convinced you're not gaming- when are we going to play another round? - I saw your post on dragon rampant; it's an amazing game with simple rules and a modest miniature count. I really recomend it.
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Played some more Strange Aeons this week, did some work on a second Frostgrave warband and made an arrangement to paint some Battletech
Group 1- (For Friend)
House Steiner (8 Mechs)
Wolfs Dragoons (8 Mechs)
Group 2- (For Me)
House Steiner (4 Mechs)
Oberon Confederacy (8 Mechs)
Grey Death Legion (4 Mechs)
House Kurita (1 Mech)
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@023- Ye gods that is my favorite Marenburg army... Ever... Possibly fav army on the Internet...
He does do quite the painting.
@GP- Convinced you're not gaming- when are we going to play another round? - I saw your post on dragon rampant; it's an amazing game with simple rules and a modest miniature count. I really recomend it.
I've played 18 historical games this year so far, and it has been wonderful. There will be more before the year is out.
When are we going to get together for another game depends on various factors, probably best discussed via pm or phone.
I don't own Dragon Rampant yet, but I did buy Lion Rampant, and my understanding is they have Piker's Lament coming out in 2017. These rules seem to be just right for games with a relatively minimal number of figures, and they could work for Empire.
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I've also quit Warhammer. In December, when Darnok at Warseer confirmed some of the worst rumors, I put all of my modelling on hold, since I didn't know what to expect exactly. Since then, I've played a few games of Kings of War, and have spent hundreds of dollars on Frostgrave miniatures, but have only been able to play a couple of games (apparently veteran gamers do still spend money). Just recently, I purchased some Westwind gothic miniatures and purchased the rules for Chaos in Carpathia (Victorian era vampires, werewolves, monster hunters, etc.).
Sure, I can still play Warhammer Fantasy, but it is a long term investment. I don't know for how long the current range will still be available, so it's a risky investment moving forward. Also, I don't have as much time to invest in mass battle gaming, so have focused on skirmish games for now.
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Chaos in Carpathia is a great rules-set. Highly recommend. I wish there was a physical book.
I have some vampire wars miniatures I have been wanting to play for a while.
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I simply ported my armies into KoW. I manage to get a game in at least every two weeks (mega battles the last two week ends). While there are certain aspects of WFB I miss, it's been great to get that feeling of being part of something new and dynamic again.
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I simply ported my armies into KoW. I manage to get a game in at least every two weeks (mega battles the last two week ends). While there are certain aspects of WFB I miss, it's been great to get that feeling of being part of something new and dynamic again.
Having recently played a few games of KoW, I get that. It's not exactly the game I really want, but it's s fun "quick fix" that was obviously made to appeal to those with WFB armies.
Seems like a better "gateway" game to get new players interested, too. Easier to learn and start building an army than WFB. I"m thinking about using it to recruit non-miniatures-gamers with KoW more than I considered it with WFB.
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I've played a game of 6th edition yesterday, against the Elves. Lost like a chump, but great fun was had by all. Next on my list of armies that will kick my ass, are Dwarfs. :smile2:
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More Strange Aeons
More Frostgrave
More XWing
Trying some Battletech again (mostly as a hobby project)
Best gaming this month was an XWing mini campaign using local rules.
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I've been up to no good....
Lets see, failed love stories, tried to rekindle mini hobby but failed. I play World of Warships and get sunk and I console myself by talking to my favourite Dragon at the job and my favorite sword at home.
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Best gaming this month was an XWing mini campaign using local rules.
What did that involve?
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Trying some Battletech again (mostly as a hobby project)
Oooh, aside from Warhammer, oldschool Battletech (mostly 3025 tech) was a major part of my wargaming youth. Both board game and miniatures (without hexes.) I think some of my fondest oldschool computer LAN party memories are also Mechwarrior: Mercenaries rather than the usual FPS. :::cheers:::
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(( Hey all,
Sorry about the absence.
For me, I had to move, and am going through the apprenticeship part of my new job right now, which has taken a metric crap-ton of my time... which has eaten into my gaming time.
When I do get a chance, I've been tinkering with putting together skeletons and royal skeletons for the Tomb Kings. Also been playing a lot of PSVITA games, like Corpse Party and Dungeon Travelers 2.
So... not a whole lot of miniature games. Shoot, I don't even know where the game clubs are down here right now. ))
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Still playing eight edition. Bought some new army books and experimenting with them. Playing against Ogres for the first time next month
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95% of our club now plays 9th Age all the time.
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95% of our club now plays 9th Age all the time. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-NwzozflCQ)
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I continued playing 8th edition.
I kept modeling and painting. But now I could model and paint for pure aesthetics and not care about what stuff was equipped with. I sorta did that anyway but now I was more free to make things just look cool.
But in the great white north, the ice melted and spring started. So i packed up everything and enjoyed spring(my favorite time of year). Now that its summer I'm still busy doing other stuff but I am able to spend a little bit of time on the hobby.
January 2nd I made some warhammer purchases. Got an arachinid, beastman monster guy.
And the other day I went to my LGS and saw a sale shelf with a beast-man battalion and a lizard men battalion. I don't play lizardmen but the price was pretty good so I picked it up. And I got a unit of black orcs and the kings of war books.
A friend was there about to show a new guy how to play kings of war. So he suggested I give it a go. So we both got our first demo game in. It was fun, and fast to play so I'll be playing that. Also the 9th age rules just came out so I'm going to be finding players to give that a go.
And I'll also be playing 8th edition. Since my self and one other friend are EEFL! die hards.
EEFL!!!
EEFL!!!
EEFL!!!
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95% of our club now plays 9th Age all the time. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-NwzozflCQ)
We're planning to check out the 9th Age. Heard many good things about it.
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I carried on playing 8th for a while. Tried Age of Sigmar, played 40k, played Mordheim, played AoS again....and again. It's now what I mostly play.
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So... not a whole lot of miniature games. Shoot, I don't even know where the game clubs are down here right now. ))
"Down here?" Have you fled the land of the burning and/or crooked river?
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30K
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Learnt very quickly that I'm not a fan of painting white.
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I've been repainting my Empire army so it doesn't look so sad on the shelf.
I have a friend who moved into town who is actually getting a couple of us (back) into Warhammer, so there might actually be some battles in the next few months (all three of us are trying to finish our armies.)
In the mean time, I've been painting (and playing) board games-- mostly Zombicide:
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I carried on playing 8th for a while. Tried Age of Sigmar, played 40k, played Mordheim, played AoS again....and again. It's now what I mostly play.
You don't sound very enthusiastic about playign Age of Sigmar again....and again....and again....
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That wasn't what I meant by that. I would probably have stuck to eighth, but change of manager at my local GW, (which is where I mostly play, as it's just up the road, And I made a lot of friends there) stopped 8th, but ran an escalation AoS campaign.
I'd tried it already, but not much more than trying to play in the old world with the new rules. For the campaign, we had random battleplans and time of war rules. Which may not mean a lot, and because we had random amount of models added to armies each week, it should have been unbalance, but it worked pretty well, a lot of close games, because you can win the scenario with a lower strength force if you go for the objective.
Over the course of that campaign I appreciated how little rules referencing was needed, and, now I enjoy it more than just ever did 8th. Not since me and my mate from school played 3rd and 4th without points or army lists, and just put stuff down and played.
The local scene has changed from an overly competitive to a more chilled out roll dice and play vibe, which is more appealing to me.
But also held back on the enthusiasm because there are people who are hostile to anyone enjoying Age of Sigmar, and I wanted to avoid getting into that kind of discussion, so I wish I hadn't even written this paragraph.
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Best gaming this month was an XWing mini campaign using local rules.
What did that involve?
So we have experimented with Node Campaigns- using the Battlechest system from Battletech (worked well btw) and a sort of connect four stile match.
Ultimately our big innovation was "Faction Teams" and a black dot system under the flag of Campaign in a Day.
Three Players, same faction- the rule is no repeated black dots between the three players-
Effect- breaks up the meta. Prevents list spamming and makes for more unique lists. Players will often create theme lists between them- ie- all use Ties or Interceptors and wear matching shirts.
In that campaign we did a connect four mechanic where we played each round on a grid- both players bid a square on a 8x8 map and the first faction to get five in a row won, with wins from the previous round "locked" in. 70 & 100 point matches depending on the round number. Pairings were determined by players selecting what board they were playing on- and kept secret until before the match.
Honestly- I know that sounds like a hot mess- buts it's freaking uncanny. I highly recommend this kind of format. I'm very near to publishing a formal PDF for boardgame geek.
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Over the course of that campaign I appreciated how little rules referencing was needed, and, now I enjoy it more than just ever did 8th. Not since me and my mate from school played 3rd and 4th without points or army lists, and just put stuff down and played.
The local scene has changed from an overly competitive to a more chilled out roll dice and play vibe, which is more appealing to me.
I'm getting this feeling from Kings of War.