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Title: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on November 19, 2009, 10:08:12 PM
We've sort of had this discussion spread over lots of threads, but I have a couple of questions about some minis from other manufacturers.

I have kept a long list of manufacturers in my Favourites links, and lately have been surfing through the list, seeing what's new, and updating it.


Basically I am doing a 'Mathi'  :icon_wink: and considering other armies. However unlike some members I have no desire to disappear off to another race to build a new army, instead I look at other themed Empire armies.

For some time now I have been collecting minis for an Estalian Conquistador army, and I am tempted at the moment by Asian/Far East models.


So ..............


I am quite impressed with Perry Miniatures
http://www.perry-miniatures.com/index2.html

and I've been looking at their ECW stuff, the Muslim Armies, and the Korean and Samurai.
Are they all plastic?

The prices seem pretty good - Price 'A' is £6 sometimes for 6 minis.



These people do some very very cheap plastics, but has anyone got or seen their metal stuff?

http://www.em4miniatures.com/acatalog/Oriental_Blades__unpainted_.html






Lastly TAG or The Assault Group

http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/store/home.php

They do loads of ranges - anyone bought their minis?

Spanish (Conquistadors), Cossacks, & Medieval Asia Mongols & Others?


If you want to develop this further with other manufacturers, then please do .......... of course after my questions have been answered

It could provide info to revive/update the 'Links' sticky in the Imperial Office
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Inarticulate on November 19, 2009, 10:54:07 PM
Most Perry stuff is metal I believe. Only the boxed sets are plastic.

www.warlordgames.co.uk

Lots of awesome ECW stuff.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 20, 2009, 04:47:23 AM


As Inarticulate said, most of the Perry stuff is metal. But as we discussed in another thread, they've got plastic Wars of the Roses figures coming out soon, which gets a big :-D from me.

I think you may already be familiar with most of these, but just for the sake of mentioning it and collecting references...

I think you've seen elsewhere that I'm a big fan of the Front Rank Wars of the Roses range, as well. I use them for both Empire & DoW figures. As much as I'm a fan of the puff & slash landsknecht style, I've also become increasingly fond of doing a "historical Empire" army from the past, before the puff & slash. Sort of like they were portrayed in earlier editions of the game. Along those lines, some of the Crusader Miniatures WotR range are good. The cavalry fit better with WFB and Front Rank figures, though -- the infantry are well sculpted but thinner and more "realistic" looking.


Foundry is good, if somewhat expensive if you live outside of the UK. But in addition to their landsknecht range, they also have conquistadors & Elizabethans. Not only that, but they have a small number of orcs & dwarfs in costume of that period as well. Maybe something to use as DoW (dwarfs, Rudluds, etc) in an Estalian themed army.

Then, of course, there's the Black Scorpion's human, orc, gobbo and dwarf pirates.

Black Hat has more orcs, dwarfs, gobbos, etc. in a sort of Elizabethan/pirate theme.

Vendel Miniatures' fantasy figures are more dark ages themed, but they have a small range of Elizabethans (including their Irish & Border Rievers ranges.) A lot of the English are wearing morions and could probably pass for Estalians. I'm very curious to see these figures in person. They look great (and tempting!) on the web page.

There's also Old Glory, for a variety of historical figures. Plus I think at one point they carried various "dwarf wars" figures (Or were they by Blue Moon?) that were themed to different historical armies.

If you want ECW, in addition to the plastics from Warlord, mentioned by Inarticulate, there are also some great sales/deals at Renegade. Their figures are bit bulkier and closer to GW scale (if not bigger!).




http://www.perry-miniatures.com/
http://www.crusaderminiatures.com/
http://www.frontrank.com/
http://www.wargamesfoundry.com/
http://www.blackscorpionminiatures.com/
http://www.blackhat.co.uk/shattered_isles/index.php
http://vendelminiatures.co.uk/
http://www.oldglory25s.com
http://www.renegademiniatures.com/
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on November 20, 2009, 09:10:23 AM
Oh I already have Foundry & Vendel stuff. The Vendel models are plain but nice, and good value.
I plan on mixing them all up with the old GW Estalians, Pirazzo's, and some other odds and ends I have like these:
http://www.monolithdesigns.co.uk/borderreivers.htm

again pretty plain and nearer 30mm, but the odd one mixed in is fine.

...... and I have the pike and shotte boxes from Warlord, but they are a bit small and the hand weapons are tiny. They need to be in a unit of their own - they will not mix well with the above.

Going back to Perry, I thought metal, but some of the unpainted pics look quite 'grey' like plastic, and they show banner sets in a similar grey that look 'very' plastic.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Siberius on November 20, 2009, 01:38:39 PM
You know, I happened upon the Dwarf forum the other day (I was looking for nice piccies of cool minis) and they have a really nicely laid out 'other manufacturer' section  and I couldn't help but thinking that we should really have something like that too.

It had clear pictures, links to websites and a lot of information on scale comparisons, range size, pricing and all. I was impressed.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Badwolf on November 21, 2009, 12:03:36 PM
I found this thread at TMP which has a couple of links to scale comparison pics if it's of any help.

http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=167341 (http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=167341)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Crimsonsphinx on November 21, 2009, 12:37:43 PM
I buy models from Reaper, Rackham and Hasslefree as well as Gw.

Truth be told, I normally just buy the models I like, then find a way to use them in my armies  :-D

http://www.reapermini.com/
http://www.rackham-store.com/boutique_us/index.cfm?code_lg=lg_us
http://www.hasslefreeminiatures.co.uk/
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on November 21, 2009, 01:55:38 PM
I am figuring about wether to use a T-34 model for either my Guards or for my orkz. And I still need a Sherman or a Tiger for another Battlewagon alongside my JSU-152.

By the way, Hasslefree got some lovely freaked out stuff.

And if you are into elves and think GW is to expensive, there is a new alternative in town. Not the superbest, but they ain´t bad either.
http://www.manticgames.com/
And their pricetag rocks!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 23, 2009, 05:27:56 PM

Good timing with this... I just spotted the following new figures announced at TMP:

http://www.bearsdenminiatures.com/28mm%20Renaissance.html

Where I was also reminded of:

http://eurekamin.com.au/index.php?cPath=87_126_693&sort=3a
http://eurekamin.com.au/product_info.php?cPath=87_126_740&products_id=10205
http://eurekamin.com.au/index.php?cPath=87_126_756&sort=3a


Hope I didn't miss that someone else already mentioned these.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on November 23, 2009, 07:04:07 PM
I have seen Eureka, but never been tempted enough to order all the way from Oz, and it annoys me that you cannot see delivery costs until you've done very thing else on their site.

The Bears Den photos appear stretched on my PC for some reason, and the model details look slightly 'chunky' .........

...... however this has to be one hell of a range:

http://www.bearsdenminiatures.com/28mm%20Bankers.html


 :engel:

What next?      ........... MP Marauders
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 23, 2009, 07:40:47 PM
When you click on the "Photo" link and it opens a new window, wait for the image to load, then right click on it and select "View Image." Then resize that browser window. That will enlarge the photos of the unpainted figures greatly, and will fix the proportions on the painted figures.


It's the format of the web page. I assume they're copying HTML or using some sort of template. Whatever it is, it sucks and is screwing up their photos and likely turning away customers. And the stupid thing about the small photos is that it's still loading the full, huge files, so they're actually "paying" more bandwidth for a crappy default display!



http://www.bearsdenminiatures.com/28mm%20Bankers.html

What next?      ........... MP Marauders

Hrm... I'll have to add "sculpt range of 28mm architects" to my list of things to do...

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on November 23, 2009, 07:45:00 PM
Actually 023 their whole site looks a bit amateurish,

... I was going to email them and ask where I could get the 'bear' model and then I saw it was a 'hotmail' address and I lost interest ..............

 :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on November 25, 2009, 08:20:31 PM
Nobody seems to have any info on the EM4 outfit?

I know someone posted a link to their plastic orcs at 50 for £7.50 a while back, but I wondered if anyone knew anything of the metal minis?

Do they make these themselves or are they from other manufacturers and these people are merely suppliers?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 25, 2009, 08:38:00 PM
All I know is EM4 used to do some cheap plastics, including some of the figures from the old Fantasy Warriors game, as well as the Space Rangers. I think they got into pre-painted.

I had some of the old plastic orcs & dwarfs when Grenadier was producing them. They were only OK for the time, now they look pretty dated.

I have never seen any of the metals, nor do I know anyone who has any.

Sorry. :/
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Badwolf on November 27, 2009, 12:48:49 PM
I just discovered that Artizan have started a Landsknecht range.

http://www.artizandesigns.com/list.php?man=20&page=1 (http://www.artizandesigns.com/list.php?man=20&page=1)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 27, 2009, 03:42:20 PM
Oooh!

I hope they come out with more poses. Just 4 of the same guy standing with pike upright and 4 with them held level isn't much variety. They look great, though.

I wonder how they compare to Foundry.


EDIT: Looks like they have more variety in this regiment pack:

http://www.artizandesigns.com/prod.php?prod=1739

And at a discount.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on December 01, 2009, 03:19:18 PM
I was just about to post about the Artizan landsnechts! Just as well I checked first.

I'm going to buy that pack.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 07, 2009, 01:23:45 AM


I just saw that TAG (The Assault Group) have releases some more Spanish:

http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/pages/page.php?Neapolitan-swordsmen-and-Artillery-crew-on-the-%3Cem%3EWorkbench%3C/em%3E-138

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Inarticulate on December 07, 2009, 01:27:51 AM
Those look nice, though I generally steer clear of Assault Group for some reason.

I've got loads of fluff written for an Estalian army I need to find the time and money to put models to!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on December 07, 2009, 04:06:55 PM
The TAG spanish range was why I asked about them in the first post.

In the link 023 gives above they look a bit 'head heavy' to me - too much for me to order without a recommendation.
I think I'll leave them until Salute next April and actually have a look up close on their stand.

On the good news front my Perry order turned up today - I bought some Choson Korean, and Samurai ..............

Wow - I tried 2 sets of the Koreans - the heavy swordsmen KOR16  and Cavalry with flails KOR10.

The swordsmen are £6.00 for 6, +12% postage - Perry sculpts at £1.12p each, just fantastic.
If you look at the swordsmen pics on their site they are nicely painted, and the shields look brilliant - I thought it was the painter's design, but no - the shield designs are sculpted.

The cavalry KOR10 is three riders + mounts and weapons are separate along with a 3-piece bow sprue = bow in quiver, arrows in quiver, and an empty quiver.

I also got a few of the Samurai sets to see how they look, and again sets of 6 individual swordsmen models for £6.00.

I think there is a strong possibiity that my Kislevs will have forged a few new alliances eastwards and have some allied units appearing within their ranks soon ..............
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 16, 2009, 02:04:49 PM


Found this thread with a couple of comparison shots of the new Artizan figures next to some other manufacturers:

http://www.frothersunite.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=23759&start=10

Is it my imagination or do the legs look short (and long torso) on the guy in the third pic (compared to the GW spearman)? The others (in the first two pics) look fine normal, though. Look good, in fact. Further tempting me...

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on December 16, 2009, 11:06:49 PM
Is it my imagination or do the legs look short (and long torso) on the guy in the third pic

I don't know, but I have some and think they look fine next to GW ones.

Mine were slightly poorly cast though. Quite a bit of flash, and few bits of impaired detail. Still worth the price though, and preferable to foundry or old glory.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 17, 2009, 03:06:27 AM
Yeah... my willpower is breaking down. I'm on a miniatures "spending freeze" so I'm now starting to consider selling of all or parts of my WE army that I will probably never get to and use that to fund a big purchase of the new Artizan & Perry figures. Too bad no one ever buys me miniatures or gaming stuff for Christmas!  :-(
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on December 17, 2009, 09:38:28 AM
Too bad no one ever buys me miniatures or gaming stuff for Christmas!  :-(

I hear ya!

Everytime my wife asks me what I want, she sounds like Meatloaf when I give her the answer:

"I will do anything for love, but I won't do that..."

WTF?

Still, hadn't it been for my new found love for 40K Orks I would probably have succumbed to those lovely plastic Romans.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on December 17, 2009, 12:13:54 PM
Well, I am more and more looking at Warhammer Ancient Battles, because thanks to Rome: Total war, I think I can turn my son over to it. And the minis are cheaper.

Now, if I invent some nifty dual base system, I might be able to use celts as maraduers in the future or something... Maybe...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Badwolf on December 17, 2009, 05:20:34 PM
.... I might be able to use Celts as marauders in the future or something... Maybe...

Why bother with Chaos Mathi, just use them as Empire swordsmen & spearmen and call them allies or auxiliaries from Albion.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on December 17, 2009, 06:33:45 PM
Too bad no one ever buys me miniatures or gaming stuff for Christmas!  :-(




I hear ya!

Still, hadn't it been for my new found love for 40K Orks I would probably have succumbed to those lovely plastic Romans.

You wimps - call yourself men and gamers ........ :icon_rolleyes:

How many times do we have to remind you of the great resources on this site:

http://www.warhammer-empire.com/library/danse/christmas.php

I had a large packet arrive last week - my wife has been given the various boxes contained within to various relatives in exchange for money assuring them that my visible ecstasy on opening their gifts will be wonderful.

I have been doing the annual rehearsal of the immortal line from the above dissertation -
 
“Oh fabulous, I have wanted this ............."

in the mirror for the last few days ......

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on December 17, 2009, 06:42:17 PM
You´re a god among men, Midaski!  :biggriin:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on December 17, 2009, 06:51:28 PM
SSShhhhhhhh or they'll all be asking for their ideas from the ' one wish' thread.


Actually I'm a god among women as well, as Shadowlord's mum will apparently testify ............... so he tells me.
 :biggriin:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 17, 2009, 07:35:23 PM


Now see, at that point, I may as well just buy the stuff myself, wrap it up, put it under the tree, open it and act surprised on Christmas morning.

 :-P

In fact, maybe I should do that. "Ooooh! Look what I got me! Just what I wanted all year! This is the best Christmas ever!" That would probably asking for domestic/family trouble, though.  :unsure:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on December 17, 2009, 10:41:48 PM

Now see, at that point, I may as well just buy the stuff myself, wrap it up, put it under the tree, open it and act surprised on Christmas morning.

When my kids were younger that was exactly what happened.

According to the labels, I had presents from Santa, then Sigmar, and the "Emperor" .................

However as they get older you have to be a little more devious conciliatory ...........
 :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 21, 2009, 03:48:21 PM


Since I won't be buying the Artizan figures for a while, I decided to work on something I've already got in order to satisfy the landsknechty urges. At first I was considering converting some of the 5th edition plastic state troop stash.

But instead I cleaned assembled a pack of 30 Old Glory pikemen. I'm pleasantly surprised. I have only cleaned & primed them so far, but they really look good. I'll post some photos in the B&P when I'm done. (After the holidays.)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on December 21, 2009, 04:06:24 PM
I got a bag of them a while ago and was also pleasantly surpirsed by them

Bonus is they pretty much rank up together too.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 21, 2009, 05:29:17 PM
Yeah, I like the angle of the pike. It's more dynamic than just standing upright, but they're still high enough you can move your troops into contact with each other.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 07, 2010, 02:30:28 PM


They've posted some more pics of new figures and a second regiment deal at the Artizan page:

http://www.artizandesigns.com/list.php?man=20&page=1
http://www.artizandesigns.com/list.php?man=18&cat=137&page=1

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on January 07, 2010, 02:54:24 PM
Do I see "Dopplesoldiers"? <claps excitedly>
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on January 07, 2010, 03:23:50 PM
Do I see "Dopplesoldiers"? <claps excitedly>

'No Stock' it appears, so probably WiP

I've just emailed to see if they do an 'army deal' on the advancing pike.
I fancy the 'standing' regiment, but not the 'attacking' one - you'd charge something and still be 3" away  :icon_wink:

They also seem to have the extra armoured packs available now to supplement the regiment.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on January 07, 2010, 03:38:19 PM
They have made me happy in my happy place.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on January 07, 2010, 03:52:07 PM
I've had a very speedy reply:

"There will be. Once the moulds are made I'll add an advancing regiment, so keep an eye on the site in the next couple of weeks."

I'm tempted to buy a set of all three, and add a few extra armoured models - you could have a couple of nice 30+ man strong units.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: MrDWhitey on January 09, 2010, 08:08:47 PM
I have a question!

Does anyone know where to purchase 28mm scale British American Civil War heads with tricorne hats?

Our club is starting to bubble over Black Powder.  :-D
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on January 09, 2010, 10:02:30 PM
Ehhh... you mean American war of independence? They did not have tricorns at the civil war, unless you where a century behind in fashion.  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: MrDWhitey on January 09, 2010, 10:04:10 PM
Damn right I meant the War of Independance. Just trying to trick you.

Anything useful to add?  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on January 09, 2010, 11:03:40 PM
Perry miniatures have an American revolution range. Not just the heads though.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: MrDWhitey on January 09, 2010, 11:09:37 PM
Aye, the idea was to get lots of plastic Napoleonics and use tricorne hats. Fortunately only The Other at my club is anal enough to refuse to play against that.

Someone else is using un-converted British Line Infantry from the Napoleonic period for the AWI British.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on January 10, 2010, 08:42:53 AM
Well, buy the real stuff instead.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: MrDWhitey on January 10, 2010, 09:31:25 AM
You are in a helpful mood aren't you.  :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 11, 2010, 05:15:51 AM

Totally unrelated to AWI or Naps... I'm drooling over the new Ancient (http://www.crusaderminiaturesusa.com/index.php?cat_id=58) Empire Germans (http://www.crusaderminiaturesusa.com/index.php?cat_id=58) at Crusader. I was going to place an order with them in the next few weeks. (My OG discount card expires soon so I want to take advantage of cheaper prices while I can!) But my plan was to jump into Macedonians/Successors (http://www.crusaderminiaturesusa.com/view_product.php?product=Box014). But now I'm seriously thinking about adding to the German horde instead. Oh the painful dilemma (http://zerotwentythree.blogspot.com/2010/01/purchase-dilemma.html)...

As beautiful as the Artizan Landsknechts and Perry Wars of the Roses figures look, they're going to have to wait until next year due to my wedding sapping my gaming budget for this year (at least  :ph34r: ) Unless someone buys me a boatload of landsknechts for a wedding gift or something like that.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 20, 2010, 06:07:23 AM
I got my hands on just a few of the Artizan landsknechts. I'm very impressed. Now I'm having even more trouble keeping focused on the things I need to get done first. :|

I'll eventually post some pics & a review on my blog, plus a special little something for W-E...

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on January 20, 2010, 11:17:31 AM
I got my hands on just a few of the Artizan landsknechts. I'm very impressed.

Did yours have a lot of flash on them? Mine did.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 20, 2010, 03:18:22 PM
I've only got four figures so far. Only one of the four had significant flash -- flat sheet type flash around one side of the neck and at the crotch. The other three had only very minor mould lines. All cleaned up easy.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on January 20, 2010, 11:57:39 PM
Some of mine were quite bad, flash-wise. I still like them though.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on January 21, 2010, 12:12:31 AM
Are the Pike and shotte things from warlord the same as the war of the roses?

I can't get a good picture of the war of roses sprue. I need some pikemen which look like Riccos republican guard.

I also saw some pictures of some pretty sweet cavalry which I wanted.

http://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/ao/ao28.jpg
are they war of roses?

sorry, my buying-fu is weak :(
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on January 21, 2010, 12:24:52 AM
Are the Pike and shotte things from warlord the same as the war of the roses?

No. They are 17th century, not 15th century.


Quote
I can't get a good picture of the war of roses sprue. I need some pikemen which look like Riccos republican guard.

I don't think the perry war of the roses set is really suitable for that. Maybe the four fully-armoured guys you get would be OK, but the rest of the set isn't armoured enough. And you'd still need to convert them anyway to give them pikes.

I don't know of any models that really look like the ricco's pikemen.



Quote
I also saw some pictures of some pretty sweet cavalry which I wanted.

http://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/ao/ao28.jpg
are they war of roses?

They are from the early 15th century range, so not War of the Roses. But close enough really. Just a bit old-fashioned.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on January 21, 2010, 12:33:47 AM
I just want to use them as GW light cav with spears (and javelins)

shame about the Ricco's. Might have to just buy some more of them.
Christ! they are 30 quid for 12 of them.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 21, 2010, 05:08:52 AM
I would totally believe those as Light Cav.

As far as Ricco's, I'm not sure I know of anyone who makes pikemen that heavily armoured.

You may be able to use or convert some of the more heavily armoured Front Rank WotR figures. Look into WR64 & 65:

http://www.frontrank.com/lev4_4_2_1_WOR_Infantry.asp?startnum=9

and WR 92, 93, 94:

http://www.frontrank.com/lev4_4_2_1_WOR_Infantry.asp?startnum=25



Or maybe even...

http://www.crusaderminiatures.com/prod.php?prod=198&cat=5&sub=16&page=1


Be warned, though. Those particular Crusader Miniatures figures are a bit on  the thin side, especially compared to GW figures. The Front Rank are bigger and beefier. Still not quite GW, but they're even a big bigger than the Perry figures.

Front Rank also do some nice figures for light cav. That's what I've used for one of my light cav units.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on January 21, 2010, 01:55:15 PM
I actually think tyhose crusader minis look pretty similar to RRG. apart from the feathers
Now just have to make my own frakin pikes.

(http://www.crusaderminiatures.com/images/mew003.jpg)

(http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1251888_99110214008_ColWHRiccoBoxMain_445x319.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: MrDWhitey on January 21, 2010, 01:58:37 PM
http://www.artizandesigns.com/list.php?man=19&cat=134&page=1

Or buy some.

I did order a set a week or two ago, hasn't arrived yet though.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on January 21, 2010, 02:06:56 PM
oh my goodness.

Did you want all 80?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: MrDWhitey on January 21, 2010, 02:08:52 PM
I'll be using 44ish, two units of 24 spearmen need doing. If the rest is enough you can have them if I get them.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on January 21, 2010, 02:15:56 PM
I think I need 8.
Have to check how many RRG I actually have.

I presume you have emailed/hassled them
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: MrDWhitey on January 21, 2010, 02:21:33 PM
Nope, given the weather conditions I'm quite lenient towards companies sending me stuff, plus I've used them  in the past and they seem to just take a while. I did check my bank to make sure I had actually paid them for the stuff, and I have so..

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on January 21, 2010, 03:13:02 PM
http://www.artizandesigns.com/list.php?man=19&cat=134&page=1

Or buy some.

I did order a set a week or two ago, hasn't arrived yet though.

Those pikes are great (they are the ones I use), but: you need to cut them down if using them with Ricco's! They have very small pikes.


See, there's another dick joke. Sort of.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on January 21, 2010, 04:05:47 PM
I thought 10 CM seemed a bit big.
I'm really pleased though, I really think they look similar enough! might try to do GS scarf round some heads, and GS cloth on their pikes...
So a big thumbs up to 023 for his help

Now just to figure out how to actually buy those light cav too..

The Perry miniatures website IS RUBBISH
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on January 21, 2010, 04:15:00 PM
It's not that difficult. I've bought things from there before.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on January 21, 2010, 04:17:42 PM
I cant find those horsies in the plastic range menu.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on January 21, 2010, 04:21:46 PM
Which ones? They don't sell plastic horses, other than as part of the Napoleonic cavalry set.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on January 21, 2010, 04:22:50 PM
(http://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/ao/ao28.jpg)

These ones, the ones I posted earlier, and you told me they were 15th century.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on January 21, 2010, 04:24:38 PM
Ah. They are metal. Riders and horses both.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on January 22, 2010, 10:46:23 AM
Ah. They are metal. Riders and horses both.

yup, they are just the same price as GW plastics ;)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on January 22, 2010, 11:00:46 AM
The horses haven't eaten so many buns, either.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 25, 2010, 10:53:16 PM


Preview of the second, delicious set of Perry WotR plastics:

http://theminiaturespage.com/news/915927/


Pike, handgun, crosswbow. Says they will try to include pavise and other bits in the kit.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on January 26, 2010, 12:07:10 AM
I want those now! They will be the best thing ever.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on January 26, 2010, 06:56:16 PM
No shit me not, Rufus! I just love them more and more as new pics emerge!
Maybe the perfect minis for a Tilean army?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on January 27, 2010, 11:20:12 AM
Definitely. I hope they release them soon!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on January 27, 2010, 11:54:47 AM
february didnt it say?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on January 27, 2010, 12:14:48 PM
Did it? That would be nice.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on January 27, 2010, 03:38:34 PM
oh, no.
The first range of WotR metals are in february, but about the plastics
Quote
These are still in the process of being sculpted, so don't expect anything soon! There is no release date at this time.

Darn, I want some FPA halberdiers.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on January 28, 2010, 10:19:22 AM
When it comes to getting new Empire stuff, besides someday getting those new archers, the WoTR minis are on the list!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: MrDWhitey on January 28, 2010, 12:49:27 PM
Those pikes are great (they are the ones I use)

They just arrived today, and they are indeed very nice!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on January 28, 2010, 03:05:10 PM
A bit hazardous though... they are sharp, are quite hard to see when they are pointing straight up.


Too bad the perry handgunners/crossbowmen won't be out for ages, because I want them.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on February 04, 2010, 05:35:40 PM
I just want to use them as GW light cav with spears (and javelins)

shame about the Ricco's. Might have to just buy some more of them.
Christ! they are 30 quid for 12 of them.

Lol.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on February 04, 2010, 05:43:19 PM
I just want to use them as GW light cav with spears (and javelins)

shame about the Ricco's. Might have to just buy some more of them.
Christ! they are 30 quid for 12 of them.

Lol.

What's funny about my poverty? My pike unit is going to be mismatched now.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on February 04, 2010, 06:56:31 PM
It's not your poverty I was laughing at, it was your exasaperation when you realised what the price was...  :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: MrDWhitey on February 04, 2010, 06:58:55 PM
Bah and piffle.

Admit it, you (and every single member of your club) were mocking his poverty.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on February 04, 2010, 07:12:57 PM
I think that would more likely be your avatar and her cronies, mocking the miners poverty shortly after they sent in the army against her own people.
All she needed was sarin gas and she would have been known as Comedic Maggie Hussein  :icon_eek: :ph34r:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: MrDWhitey on February 04, 2010, 07:20:33 PM
Thatcher is the only woman I've thought "What a guy" about.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on February 04, 2010, 07:25:57 PM
She'll always be second to Ina Sharples in my book.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on February 05, 2010, 02:20:52 PM
I just got some of the Crusader Minis to go with my Ricco's, they are smaller, but with a couple of feathers stuck on and at the back rank of the block they will go just fine imo.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: MrDWhitey on February 05, 2010, 02:21:37 PM
I demand picture proof of this. Hurry and paint them!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on February 05, 2010, 02:44:19 PM
tsk gimme chance!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: MrDWhitey on February 05, 2010, 02:48:49 PM
Fine! You have till 9pm, but only because I'm in a good mood.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on February 06, 2010, 07:07:29 AM
Back on topic...

Midaski, Have you had a look at the Gripping Beast Muslim and Christendom models for an alternative Arab Empire army?
They do some lovely camel riders as well for heavy cavalry.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on February 06, 2010, 09:51:28 AM
Back on topic...

Midaski, Have you had a look at the Gripping Beast Muslim and Christendom models for an alternative Arab Empire army?
They do some lovely camel riders as well for heavy cavalry.

I'm under control at the moment thank you .......... ( well sort of)   :engel:

I am focussed on the summer campaign and some Estalians, dwarfs and halflings. I have 'stored' a lot of minis already for another couple of themed armies, and I have lots of unfinished units for my Kislevites, Altdorf, Averland and Middenland/heim/CoU armies ................

.... Larry Leadhead bows in my presence ..............  :icon_wink:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on February 07, 2010, 11:34:41 AM
I bought some of the Perry war of the roses plastic miniatures, and they are awesome. And ludicrously cheap.

Buy them!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: warhammerlord_soth on February 07, 2010, 04:14:29 PM
I bought some of the Perry war of the roses plastic miniatures, and they are awesome. And ludicrously cheap.

Buy them!

Yes, Sir !

By your command, Sir !




 :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on February 07, 2010, 04:23:42 PM
Buy them!

What ? Some more?

 :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: FR1DAY on February 08, 2010, 11:02:46 AM
The Perry WOTR figures are great. I've got the last 5 of the box left to paint, their are primed and based and ready to go. I've done 18 as archers, 5 halberdiers and 15 pikemen. For the pike men they are all advancing with the pikes at 45 degrees so have been a pain to rank up, they are all numbered on the base so I know where they go. My strong tone dip has arrived so will get them done and get some photo's up.

The new perry stuff will be perfect. The upright pikes can form the back ranks of my units and the xbows and handgunners look superb. Some cavalry would be nice next. The metal cannons on their site look good too. I think the smaller one will have to be my horse artillery with a suitable draught horse converted.

Lets hope they get them released ASAP!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on February 09, 2010, 12:13:49 PM
I've assembled one of the fully-armoured ones so far. It's really excellent.

I heard somewhere that there is a mounted men-at-arms set planned for the future too.


Quote
I've got the last 5 of the box left to paint, their are primed and based and ready to go. I've done 18 as archers, 5 halberdiers and 15 pikemen. For the pike men they are all advancing with the pikes at 45 degrees so have been a pain to rank up, they are all numbered on the base so I know where they go. My strong tone dip has arrived so will get them done and get some photo's up.

Quick work!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on February 09, 2010, 06:34:03 PM
Bigger than the Forge World option...

http://i986.photobucket.com/albums/ae347/thebattleforgephotos/Giants/Prototype%20Resins/FinalGiantCast01.jpg
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Siberius on February 09, 2010, 06:40:12 PM
I'm awaiting pictures of these cool new minis...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on February 09, 2010, 06:54:12 PM
The new Titan size Giants come with about 8 different head options, six different weapon options etc. so you should never see the sdame Giant twice.
I hear 4 of them are being painted up by 4 different professional miniature painters at the moment so there should be some decent pictures of them painted soonish.
They are made of resin and I think they will retail about £15 pounds less than the Forgeworld Giant, and if you buy three there is a discount and they come in around £25 pounds cheaper than buying three FG giants , also the FG Giant doesn't have much in the way of variations or options available.
These Giants have different torso and legs options as well.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on February 09, 2010, 06:59:54 PM
Such big models but they hold a lot of detail so they will ber a treat to paint up for the battlefield.

http://i986.photobucket.com/albums/ae347/thebattleforgephotos/Giants/Prototype%20Resins/ResinGiant01c.jpg

A scale shot with a cart and a halfling...
http://i986.photobucket.com/albums/ae347/thebattleforgephotos/Giants/Prototype%20Resins/ResinGiant01a.jpg
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on February 14, 2010, 01:07:40 PM
Back to Perry war of the roses again:

I painted the four men-at-arms. They are quite tall and thin compared to most of my other miniatures.

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f207/sparky_sparkfire/Empire/men-at-arms.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: MrDWhitey on February 14, 2010, 02:22:33 PM
Really nice!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on February 14, 2010, 05:21:24 PM
Those Men-at-arms are really sweet!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on February 15, 2010, 12:20:03 PM
They are really nice models. As soon as I buy some more glue, I will have a go at the halberdiers and archers.

Anyway, I recommend them.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Zygmund on February 15, 2010, 01:12:34 PM
Elegant, even gracious. Excellent models, the more so thanks to the low price per figure, compared to certain another company.

-Z
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on February 22, 2010, 03:22:16 PM
So I searched around at home and could find none of my Riccos!
Wondering if I sold them, although I don't remember doing so.

So the WotR plastics it is I guess. Whats the ratio of models? I don't really need/want Archers.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: MrDWhitey on February 22, 2010, 04:06:03 PM
As far as I can remember, it was 40 figures in total, with a max of 30 archers or 18 billmen.

Edit: Ah yes, this will help:

http://theminiaturespage.com/news/904883/
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: FR1DAY on February 22, 2010, 04:13:47 PM
Finlay,

If you are making pikemen then you can only get 12 per box as 6 of the bill arms are in inappropriate positions for pikes. You end up with lots of archers!

Will post some pics of mine in the next couple of days.

Adam
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 22, 2010, 04:19:13 PM

I would just wait it out a bit. They are supposed to be releasing a second box of figures, specifically for pikemen, handgunners and crossbow.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on February 22, 2010, 04:20:46 PM
They don't have to all be archers - if you have Ed.6 soldiers arms you can slice off at the shoulder and use the GW matching arm pairs.

The only problem is the 'heroic' weapons size difference.
I've been experimenting with Warlord and Perry plastics and so far my opinion is that if you keep the weapons the same per unit then it looks fairly ok.
That is - use whatever bodies you like, but only use GW weapons in a unit, or only use Warlord/Perry weapons.

Looking at the time scales on the first set, it could be past the summer before the second set of Perry stuff is ready.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 22, 2010, 04:24:27 PM
Looking at the time scales on the first set, it could be past the summer before the second set of Perry stuff is ready.

Well, I suppose that could be a problem if you need the figures right now.  :-P

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on February 22, 2010, 04:33:39 PM

Well, I suppose that could be a problem if you need the figures right now.  :-P

 :icon_rolleyes: Have you ever known a hobbyist who doesn't ..............
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 22, 2010, 04:36:34 PM


I'm working on it. I was doing well until falling off the wagon last year. But I'm back on track for the moment. The true test will be the Cold Wars vendor's hall in a couple weeks.   :ph34r:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on February 22, 2010, 04:38:39 PM
Looking at the time scales on the first set, it could be past the summer before the second set of Perry stuff is ready.

Well, I suppose that could be a problem if you need the figures right now.  :-P
I need them for the eurobash
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on February 22, 2010, 05:03:59 PM
So the WotR plastics it is I guess. Whats the ratio of models? I don't really need/want Archers.

I'm doing mine as 24 halberdiers and 16 bowmen (well, 14 plus standard and musician).

If you want pikemen, buy something else.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on February 22, 2010, 05:22:42 PM
I'm going Artizan for the Pikes I reckon. 18 quid for 20.

Rufus, did you buy 2 boxes of the WotR? they say that you can only make 18 billmen per box.
If I could get away with one box of WotR for some Billmen, and the Artizan pack (plus some more, or borrow some random pikemen from someone) for my 2 infantry units, I'd be pleased.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on February 22, 2010, 05:29:01 PM
I just bought one. You can make 18 halberdiers, 4 men-at-arms with poleaxes, a standard bearer and a musician. That makes 24 halberdiers.

I like the Artizan pikemen, though they are annoying to paint thanks to their outfits. I've had eight of them sitting around half-painted since I bought them in December.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on February 22, 2010, 05:34:31 PM
Damn... I wish I had money and I would order a package of them sweet Perry minis. A nice looking, even if a bit small, halberdier unit.
And when you have collected a number of boxes, you suddenly got yourself a unit of different looking greatswords/Reiksguard on foot with what became the knights weapon of choice for dismounted combat, the versatile poleaxe!  :engel:
Oh, the lovely dreams.

But it would also give you a shitload of archers, but hey, it would surely give me a solid base to create a Bretonnian force around.  :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on February 23, 2010, 10:55:40 AM
Buy them!


Here's a quick picture of the halberdiers I've painted so far:

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f207/sparky_sparkfire/Empire/PA190002.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: FR1DAY on February 23, 2010, 10:59:23 AM
Very nice,

where did you get the banner from?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on February 23, 2010, 01:59:47 PM
It's one of imperial forge's decals.

Still waiting to see pictures of your models!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on February 23, 2010, 02:36:19 PM
Also:

I don't know if this has been mentioned already, but the Assault Group have just released some of a new Italian range:

http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/pages/page.php?First-Italians-released-144

Pikemen, arquebussiers and Papal guards. Swordsmen on the way, apparently. Great for the warhammer-empire summer campaign!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on February 23, 2010, 03:09:36 PM
Those look a bit rubbish, especially the pikemen.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: FR1DAY on February 23, 2010, 10:31:05 PM
i've two archers to paint and finish and 13 pikemen, 3 made and started to paint then dip then matt vanish the lot then the pictures can go up. In the middle of painting my ogre hero so they are after him.

That gives me 28 pikemen, 20 archers, the ogre hero, 14 bearmen and 5 norse horsemen painted. Then another 9 halberdiers to do and i've got a unit of 14 halberdiers as well.

You'll just have to wait.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on February 24, 2010, 10:02:53 AM
Those look a bit rubbish

Maybe, but they are Italian.

They probably look better painted. But I've never bought anything from that company, so don't know.


Quote from: FR1DAY
You'll just have to wait.

Oh.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 24, 2010, 03:22:28 PM
Maybe, but they are Italian.

They probably look better painted. But I've never bought anything from that company, so don't know.


I'm going to Cold Wars in a couple weeks. I don't know if they have a US rep/distributor/presence,  but I'll see if anyone is selling them there and pick up a few if they look decent.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 24, 2010, 03:51:24 PM


Just spotted this...

http://antre-de-jehan.blogspot.com/2010/02/conversion-de-piquiers-perry.html

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: FR1DAY on February 24, 2010, 08:35:48 PM
That is the exact conversion i've done. watch this space.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on February 26, 2010, 09:11:21 AM
Regarding other manufacturers, it's a little bit personal  :icon_redface:, but I have been having a love affair with the Hobgoblins from 'Otherworld' miniatures for the last 6 months, I just adore them, probably because they are the best and closest representation I have seen of the original Hobgoblinm pictures in the original Monster Manual from Gary Gygax' world famous RPG, D+D.
I just love them, the sculpts, the paint work, the poses, the historical representation... the lot.

http://www.otherworld.me.uk/hgseries.html
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on February 26, 2010, 09:13:31 AM
I have been having a love affair with the Hobgoblins from 'Otherworld'
I'm not sure we want to know about that.

It reminds me of that particular miniature Soth posted elsewhere...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on February 26, 2010, 10:05:23 AM
Otherworld have some good stuff.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on February 28, 2010, 09:00:56 PM
Now, if I invent some nifty dual base system, I might be able to use celts as maraduers in the future or something... Maybe...

What do you mean exactly Malthi...
 :ph34r: (Gets prepared for the multi-paragraphed reply...)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on February 28, 2010, 09:23:51 PM
Oh, just that if I can find a way to make celts on 20mm bases slip into 25mm bases if I would want to field them as Chaos maraduers, it would be a neat way to combine two armies.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: MrDWhitey on February 28, 2010, 09:34:33 PM
Magnets. Or just buy/make movement trays with the spacing made. They do sell them.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on March 01, 2010, 02:17:41 PM
Very nice and well worth a nosey for potential future Empire purchases for foot knights, (one of my favourite old Empire units)

http://www.sdean-forum.co.uk/phpBB2/userpix/943_IMG_5202_1.jpg

http://www.sdean-forum.co.uk/phpBB2/userpix/943_IMG_5196_1.jpg

http://www.sdean-forum.co.uk/phpBB2/userpix/943_IMG_5197_1.jpg

http://www.sdean-forum.co.uk/phpBB2/userpix/943_IMG_5198_1.jpg

http://www.sdean-forum.co.uk/phpBB2/userpix/943_IMG_5199_1.jpg
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on March 01, 2010, 04:12:38 PM
I don´t think anyone will ever mind if you field them on 20 mm base and have a unit template that shows how they would look like with 25 mm bases Mr D Whitey is right....once again.

But one day some noisy children will be his peril.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: FR1DAY on March 01, 2010, 11:05:58 PM
I've got the same problem with my bearmen and norse marauders being on 20mm bases and needing themon 25mm for a chaos mortals army. I'm going to use the 25mm flat style bases, like you get in the perry miniatures boxes and blue tack to increase the base size.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on March 02, 2010, 07:22:14 AM
Have a look at these first, I use them all the time to get troops already on Warhammer 20mm bases to fit snugly into being 25mm wide each without all the aggro, check it out...

Trays to allow figures on 20mm square bases to be ranked up as if they were on 25mm square bases.

Also, if you belong to a bonafide recognised gaming club you can apply for a handsome discount.

http://www.terrainwarehouse.co.uk/category.aspx?CategoryID=146
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on March 02, 2010, 08:01:52 AM
I've got the same problem with my bearmen and norse marauders being on 20mm bases and needing themon 25mm for a chaos mortals army. I'm going to use the 25mm flat style bases, like you get in the perry miniatures boxes and blue tack to increase the base size.


I had the same problem with the same minis....I solved that easy: I put them onto 25mm bases, since  GW rules state that you CAN put the models on the bigger size bases but not on smaller size. I can play them now as Chaos marauders or Bearmen.

You can see them here:http://dogsofwaronline.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=520 (http://dogsofwaronline.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=520)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: warhammerlord_soth on March 02, 2010, 08:14:50 AM
I had the same problem with the same minis....I solved that easy: I put them onto 25mm bases, since  GW rules state that you CAN put the models on the bigger size bases but not on smaller size.

Doesn't that upset the intricate an delicate balance of the Warhammer ruleset ?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 02, 2010, 08:22:45 AM
Also, if you belong to a bonafide recognised gaming club you can apply for a handsome discount.

http://www.terrainwarehouse.co.uk/category.aspx?CategoryID=146

I love these trays - tough and enough depth that they will take a sheet of metal for magnetising.
Of course the club discount of 15% helps too.

I just did a big order of 51 trays which was delivered a week or so ago - I think we have around 140 trays in total now.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on March 02, 2010, 09:07:41 AM
I had the same problem with the same minis....I solved that easy: I put them onto 25mm bases, since  GW rules state that you CAN put the models on the bigger size bases but not on smaller size.

Doesn't that upset the intricate an delicate balance of the Warhammer ruleset ?

Actually it does, thou not in such extent to be cheesy. But its a price u have to pay. :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on March 02, 2010, 09:12:25 AM
I had the same problem with the same minis....I solved that easy: I put them onto 25mm bases, since  GW rules state that you CAN put the models on the bigger size bases but not on smaller size. I can play them now as Chaos marauders or Bearmen.

I must have missed this. Where do GW rules state this?

Until now, I thought you had to use the standard base size (just think of terror and other "bubble"-effects).
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on March 02, 2010, 12:26:46 PM
WFB rules say infantry is on a base 20-25mm square, they dont say anything more than that about which infantry is on what base.

GW figures send out bases with their miniatures that is of a certain size depending on which race they are, but that isnt noted anywhere in the rules, certainly not on the GW UK website.

Putting your troops on a larger base disadvantages the person that does that anyway, its if there was a player that scaled down there would be a problem...

And I hope the reference to "...the intricate an delicate balance of the Warhammer ruleset"  was with a huge dollop of sarcasm?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on March 02, 2010, 12:31:02 PM
Putting your troops on a larger base disadvantages the person that does that anyway, its if there was a player that scaled down there would be a problem...

Well, there are both advantages and disadvantages, depending on the respective models' rules.

I don't know whether I'd like a Shadow Mage on a 20x600mm base casting Crown of Taidron... :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Warlord on March 02, 2010, 12:33:37 PM
There is a base size docuemtn floating around somewhere. they just for some stupid reason don't have it on their website anymore - though for the most part it only covered off 6th ed armies...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: warhammerlord_soth on March 02, 2010, 12:40:23 PM
And I hope the reference to "...the intricate an delicate balance of the Warhammer ruleset"  was with a huge dollop of sarcasm?

Not in the least.  :engel: :engel: :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on March 02, 2010, 12:55:35 PM
There is a base size docuemtn floating around somewhere. they just for some stupid reason don't have it on their website anymore - though for the most part it only covered off 6th ed armies...

Isnt it also in French? And therefore discounted in utterly lacking in value?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on March 02, 2010, 12:58:59 PM
That bodes not well for the value of posts made by a certain Uryens de Crux. :icon_wink:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: warhammerlord_soth on March 02, 2010, 01:03:27 PM
I have an ancient, English version.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on March 02, 2010, 01:14:37 PM
That bodes not well for the value of posts made by a certain Uryens de Crux. :icon_wink:

Solid Imperial name is that I'll have you know.  :dry:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on March 02, 2010, 04:54:05 PM
Also, if you belong to a bonafide recognised gaming club you can apply for a handsome discount.

http://www.terrainwarehouse.co.uk/category.aspx?CategoryID=146

I love these trays - tough and enough depth that they will take a sheet of metal for magnetising.
Of course the club discount of 15% helps too.

I just did a big order of 51 trays which was delivered a week or so ago - I think we have around 140 trays in total now.

Holy moley, they must love you at Terrain warehouse?   :icon_eek: :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on March 02, 2010, 06:00:45 PM
Ehhh... what a statement Justnorth. Everyone loves Midaski anyway!  :closed-eyes:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on March 02, 2010, 06:22:59 PM
Mathi, did you have a look at the conversion trays yet?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 02, 2010, 06:30:26 PM
Holy moley, they must love you at Terrain warehouse?   :icon_eek: :icon_mrgreen:
I spent years making trays out of all sorts of card with matchsticks, or plastic sheets etc.
They warped, twisted, broke and wouldn't fix to metal sheets.

Now I don't have that problem - my units are on substantial trays.
Now I just need to sort out the other two thirds of my Empire troops  :closed-eyes:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on March 09, 2010, 04:59:56 PM
The Redoubt Website is useless!

Instead of pictures of their minis, they have crappy drawings. I wonder what this guy actually looks like!

(http://www.redoubtenterprises.com/shop/shop_image/product/a37fda137aa27b91b00b2e56a05e9f29.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 09, 2010, 05:24:47 PM


Two-dimensional cardboard cutout of a line drawing?

Yeah, I can't understand in the age of inexpensive and easy to use hardware & software, why any company doesn't have decent photos of all their figures online.

Old Glory cheeses me off with that a bit, too. Many of their ranges only have photos that are so small you can't see what you're buying. If even that. But, as illustrated above (heh heh) at least they've made some sort of attempt at photos.

I should start advertising: will photograph for lead.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on March 09, 2010, 05:42:32 PM
The ridiculous thing is that it would have been quicker to take a photo than draw that P.O.S.

I really dont understand why anyone buys anything from them
"oo, I hope the model actually looks like the picture!"
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Badwolf on March 09, 2010, 06:52:50 PM
I had some Redoubt Confederates a while back. They were nicely sulpted and detailed but not heroic scale so probably not a good mix with GW.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 09, 2010, 07:57:48 PM


On the contrary, I had some Redoubt renaissance Polish figures (I think they were Redoubt) and they were quite large. Also pretty nice figures.


As far as the line art, two things to consider... One is that it may be a concept drawing that was given to a sculptor. Second is that Redoubt is an old manufacturer, and it may be from an old line when many companies (including GW) used line art to advertise their figures in magazines and for mail order catalogs.

Still no excuse for proper pictures on a web page in the present. But just saying the art may have existed before the figure, or may have served another purpose.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on March 10, 2010, 09:40:25 AM
Yeah, most companies that still use line drawings are from lines that have been out for decades...but its not hard to take a picture or two for a website.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on March 10, 2010, 11:10:54 AM
If you are trying to sell miniatures on the internet, you need good photographs of them. Drawings are not acceptable!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on March 10, 2010, 11:14:11 AM
At the end of the day it doesn't matter if the drawings are from an age of old, I am still not going to buy anything from them!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on March 10, 2010, 11:26:17 AM
I kind of agree, but since i have bought figures in the past from line drawings in a small home made pamphlet catalogue I cant totally agree lol.

Though the ranges I have been looking at all have pics for them from redoubt.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Badwolf on March 21, 2010, 02:41:37 PM
Apologies if this is old news but I just discovered that Gripping Beast are about to release plastic Vikings. Not really usable in an Empire army unless it's heavily themed along the lines of an Ulric warband etc.

http://www.grippingbeast.com/webpage.php?PageID=88 (http://www.grippingbeast.com/webpage.php?PageID=88)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Warlord on March 22, 2010, 12:07:07 AM
Nice Models.

Plenty of themes that could use them.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on March 22, 2010, 06:26:20 PM
Plastic Vikings...  :icon_eek:

I sure was playing medieval wargames ten years early.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on March 22, 2010, 06:35:02 PM
Dear mate! It is never too late to start. I could give you a tip where to get the WAB Shieldwall supplement cheap.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 22, 2010, 07:01:53 PM


Or just use them for DoW norse.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on March 23, 2010, 12:06:53 AM


Or just use them for DoW norse.
Or summer campaign norse.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on March 23, 2010, 10:30:50 AM
In other news, Artizan seem to have completed their landsknecht range now:


http://www.artizandesigns.com/list.php?man=20&page=1
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: warhammerlord_soth on March 23, 2010, 12:02:20 PM
Aaargghh !

More nice minis.... :eusa_wall:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 23, 2010, 02:19:00 PM
In other news, Artizan seem to have completed their landsknecht range now:


http://www.artizandesigns.com/list.php?man=20&page=1


I wish those had been out a week ago when I picked up some more pikemen.

I hope they continue on & expand the range further.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on March 23, 2010, 02:45:43 PM
Those Doppelsoldiers are lovely.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on March 23, 2010, 03:34:04 PM
Arent they just...how big is "too big" for a unit of greatswords?  :blush:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 23, 2010, 03:52:10 PM
Arent they just...how big is "too big" for a unit of greatswords?  :blush:

What's the minimum unit size?  :wink:

Sorry, I've completely lost faith in greatswords. (In game terms.)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: wissenlander on March 23, 2010, 03:52:57 PM
Arent they just...how big is "too big" for a unit of greatswords?  :blush:

There was one fellow on here who used a unit of 40, but I think that was last edition.  He swore by them, though everyone thought him mad. 

Those plastic vikings look awesome.  Seem reasonably priced, too.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on March 23, 2010, 03:56:10 PM
I've had some success recently with a big unit of halberdiers, besides, I dont play to win, thats just a bonus if it happens and they look so pretty so I have them in my army.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on March 23, 2010, 04:04:58 PM
Apologies if this is old news but I just discovered that Gripping Beast are about to release plastic Vikings. Not really usable in an Empire army unless it's heavily themed along the lines of an Ulric warband etc.

http://www.grippingbeast.com/webpage.php?PageID=88 (http://www.grippingbeast.com/webpage.php?PageID=88)

Those vikings have no horns on their helmets....and everyone knows that horns for chaos are like skulls for empire. This is known and therefore those models suck.










 :happy: on a serious note they look great.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 23, 2010, 04:12:50 PM
I dont play to win, thats just a bonus if it happens


You play to lose?

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on March 23, 2010, 04:16:35 PM
I dont play to win, thats just a bonus if it happens


You play to lose?

Must be a very challenging and fun to play opponent.



Oh look .....i won ......














again.  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on March 23, 2010, 04:39:45 PM
I need to buy the dopplesoldners (however you spell that). On the other hand, I've had the pikemen I bought sat around since December mostly unpainted.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: wissenlander on March 23, 2010, 04:41:29 PM
This past December or the one before? 
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on March 23, 2010, 04:44:51 PM
The most recent December. I want to get them finished, but I can't seem to motivate myself. I've been painting the Perry wars of the roses infantry instead, because they are much easier to do.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: wissenlander on March 23, 2010, 04:46:45 PM
Look on the bright side, you're accomplishing something.  Those other guys will get done in time.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on March 23, 2010, 04:47:15 PM
Doppelsöldner

doppel = twice Söldner =mercenary

because of their great skill and equipment the doppelsöldner wanted twice the money a regular mercenary earned and hence the name Doppelsöldner.


Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on March 23, 2010, 04:54:28 PM
Thanks wissenlander!


And Fandir: I know what they are, and what the name means. I just can't spell it without looking it up!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on March 23, 2010, 04:56:34 PM
learn some German it really helps with Landsknecht terminology   :happy:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on March 23, 2010, 05:04:31 PM
I'm no good at languages, I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on March 23, 2010, 06:15:18 PM
How do you guys like these winged hussars on foot?

http://www.battlefield-berlin.de/shop/index.php?cat=WG1547&product=DT_KRK-002 (http://www.battlefield-berlin.de/shop/index.php?cat=WG1547&product=DT_KRK-002)

http://www.battlefield-berlin.de/shop/index.php?cat=WG1547&product=DT_KRK-001 (http://www.battlefield-berlin.de/shop/index.php?cat=WG1547&product=DT_KRK-001)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: warhammerlord_soth on March 23, 2010, 06:18:23 PM
Oh look .....i won ......


Keep dreaming...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on March 23, 2010, 06:19:15 PM
Oh look .....i won ......


Keep dreaming...

Damn you Soth!

*shakes his tiny High Elf fist in rage and despair*
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on March 23, 2010, 08:27:15 PM
Well, Uryen sounds like my kind of opponent. He don´t need to win to overwhelm you, you High elf pansie!  :closed-eyes:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 23, 2010, 08:38:00 PM
Well, Uryen sounds like my kind of opponent.


You need an opponent who tries to lose, in order for you to score a win?

:engel:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on March 24, 2010, 12:07:42 AM
Or just one that plays for fun, and takes the wins when they come as a bonus, even more so when they are acheived with a "fluffy" army...

The point being, 40 strong greatsword unit, yes please
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on March 24, 2010, 08:45:40 AM
I believe me and Uryen would be a rather evenly matched pair of opponents.  :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Nicholas Bies on March 24, 2010, 08:55:48 AM
those hussars and the dwarfs underneath have made me ignore everything anyone else has said this thread - which should have been reason to laugh and reply on it's own.

WOW...i want.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on March 24, 2010, 10:05:32 AM
How do you guys like these winged hussars on foot?

http://www.battlefield-berlin.de/shop/index.php?cat=WG1547&product=DT_KRK-002 (http://www.battlefield-berlin.de/shop/index.php?cat=WG1547&product=DT_KRK-002)

http://www.battlefield-berlin.de/shop/index.php?cat=WG1547&product=DT_KRK-001 (http://www.battlefield-berlin.de/shop/index.php?cat=WG1547&product=DT_KRK-001)

Those are nice actually!

The first one has a bit of a giant shoulder pad though. Like Thatcher, or a Space Marine.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 29, 2010, 03:22:10 PM

More tasty Perry releases. Plus a mention of dismounted MAA on the drawing board.

http://theminiaturespage.com/news/780028/

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on March 29, 2010, 06:19:30 PM
Those look wonderful! :icon_biggrin: :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 30, 2010, 12:19:31 PM


Unit of 20 Artizan Greatswords: $32.75
Two boxes of 10 GW Greatswords: $82.50

http://www.artizandesigns.com/prod.php?prod=1776
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat50002&prodId=prod2120000

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on March 30, 2010, 12:27:18 PM
Don't forget that really big feather in the GW greatswords box though. That's worth $20 on its own.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: WallyTWest on March 30, 2010, 03:28:49 PM
Holy crap those are wonderful miniatures. =)

Thank you for the heads up, I will definitely be taking advantage of that deal.

Thought: It would be intresting to do a "Tale of 4 Gamers" thing but have everyone assemble a regiment using alternate miniatures.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Badwolf on March 30, 2010, 03:51:27 PM
Thought: It would be intresting to do a "Tale of 4 Gamers" thing but have everyone assemble a regiment using alternate miniatures.

Damned good idea that. That could be the 'kick up the arse' I need to get my Artizan Empire/Araby army underway again.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 30, 2010, 06:54:05 PM
How about a "Tale of Four Treachery and Greed Summer Campaign Army Alternate Figure Gamers"

Actually, that doesn't sound like a bad idea for getting some new troops on the field for the campaign.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: warhammerlord_soth on March 30, 2010, 06:55:20 PM
If you browse through the B&P, you'll see some of us have already started that.... although not neccesarily with alternate figures.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on April 02, 2010, 09:07:16 AM
http://wargamesfactory.com/_product_16676/Viking_Huscarls

Just been released, with more to come.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on April 02, 2010, 09:15:29 AM
Really nice! Would make for good Men of the Vaults and/or Khrone Maraduers.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Sir Bedevere the Wise on April 09, 2010, 07:26:41 PM
Not sure if it belongs here, but I was looking for alternative models for Imperial guard and found Empress miniatures.

(http://www.empressminiatures.com/userimages/Assaltos1.jpg)

http://www.empressminiatures.com/userimages/procart32.htm

Sculpted by Paul Hicks, and I am highly impressed by the amount of detail and realistic proportions of minis.
Not very useful for Empire, but my dreams about Mordian or Praetorian IG might live once more.

Regards,

Bedevere
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on May 12, 2010, 02:23:46 PM
Does anyone else think that the WotR plastics would do well with 6th ed swordsmen arms on them?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on May 12, 2010, 04:24:18 PM
I was going to check that, but I couldn't find any swordsmen arms. I think it would look a bit weird even if it did work though.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on May 12, 2010, 08:04:47 PM
Not sure if it belongs here, but I was looking for alternative models for Imperial guard and found Empress miniatures.

(http://www.empressminiatures.com/userimages/Assaltos1.jpg)

http://www.empressminiatures.com/userimages/procart32.htm

Sculpted by Paul Hicks, and I am highly impressed by the amount of detail and realistic proportions of minis.
Not very useful for Empire, but my dreams about Mordian or Praetorian IG might live once more.

Regards,

Bedevere

Hicksy's a mate of mine, he's been doing awesome work for years now, he's one opf the kingpin sculptors of historical material in 28mm.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on May 12, 2010, 08:06:54 PM
http://wargamesfactory.com/_product_16676/Viking_Huscarls

Just been released, with more to come.

Incredible value, worth having a look at the Gripping Beast plastic Vikings as well.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Silver Wolf on June 05, 2010, 03:01:53 PM
I don't know if somebody mentioned it, but there's a company named Heresy miniatures :

http://www.heresyminiatures.com/index.htm
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Moxer on June 14, 2010, 09:39:17 AM
Midaski, could you please post a picture of your Perry wotr miniatures with 6th ed GW arms mentioned some pages ago?

8th edition rumours sound like i will have to stock up on infantry and i can't take myself to buy the 7th ed state troops. The Perry range looks great (and cheap!) but i won't need that many archers...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on June 14, 2010, 10:03:11 AM
Midaski, could you please post a picture of your Perry wotr miniatures with 6th ed GW arms mentioned some pages ago?


Not sure if I misled you, I mentioned it on page 5. I had cut off bits and bodies from the various sprues, but I haven't actually done much more than hold bits against each other with the Perry plastics yet.
As rufus and Finlay have said the Perry minis seem to be a bit taller and thinner. GW plastics tend to be a bit chunkier.

I am waiting for the second Perry set due later in the year, where they have command models and other weapons - I think Justnorth gave an early link to the 'greens' a few pages back in this thread.

I have been playing around more with the Warlord Pike & Shotte plastics as pictured in the Cheaper A:lternatives thread in the EF and the Miniatures Comparison sticky in the B&P.
The Warlord models have baggier clothing and so look chunkier, and go quite well with GW Ed.6 Soldiers arms I think.





Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Moxer on June 14, 2010, 12:14:23 PM
Hm, i thought that the warlord miniatures were a bit short compared to GW, but a look at the miniature comparison thread told me that they are indeed better than the wotr miniatures, size-wise.
But it loks like they are harder to paint...
Also, what is the difference between royalist and parliamental Minis? The sprue shown on the warlords site is the same in both cases.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on June 14, 2010, 02:09:57 PM
In all honesty...nothing...

Later war there were some differences in clothing (especially with the introduction of the NMA), but early war they were indistinguishable. In Warlord Games terms...the two boxes come with different flags and info sheets, and cover art. Thats it.

If you are building a new army they are great value, heck even their metal figures are still cheaper than GW plasics! I totally reccomend their ECW cav for Empire Pistoleers.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on June 14, 2010, 02:14:02 PM
Oo, those Perry mounted lance men at arms are nice! Any word on the Perry pikemen and crossbowmen with pavaise?

I'd have loved some pavaise crossbowmen for EB, I only have 6 of the BRaganzas besiegers though :(
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: warhammerlord_soth on June 14, 2010, 02:52:30 PM
Mirliton sell pavises separately.

A bit late though...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on June 14, 2010, 03:08:17 PM
I still have almost an entire army to paint.
But I think I have settled on my list.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on June 14, 2010, 05:22:52 PM
Also, what is the difference between royalist and parliamental Minis? The sprue shown on the warlords site is the same in both cases.

It is the same sprue as has been said with different box and leaflet /flags.

The other main point is the hats.
The bodies have the head on with long hair, but a sort of domed hairless head ( I know the feeling  :engel: ) and there are loads of different hats, so you have enough to make them look Parliamentarian or Cavalier.
There are a couple of morions also as I have used in my pics.

I suspect some of the other 'boxes' also have the same sprues and include 'bonnets' so they can be the Scots Covenantors.
They also sell metal hats on sprues of 4 and you can get 10 sprues for £3.00, so I have bought around 120 morions so I can give all mine a conquistador / estalian feel.
Indeed I plan to make up several units - painted in different colours which I can use altogether as a Estalian merc style army or split up to play ECW or 30 Years War historical rules sets.

With the Perry plastic figures having a slightly earlier period look, I want to try combining them with my older Bretonnian infantry which I think should achieve a more unified look.
Again one large army which could be Empire and then split for Medieval historical rules.

I have a fair few Foundry metal Norse/Vikings/Saxons which I hope to mix up with the Gripping Beast plastic Hirdmen, and possibly the Wargames Factory Vikings.

Flexibility from your minis - that's what we want



So far I've managed to avoid the Romans/Celts/Gauls era, with just one box of Warlord Celts infantry - which I reckon I can mix in withthe Vikings

:icon_rolleyes:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 14, 2010, 06:50:48 PM
I'd have loved some pavaise crossbowmen for EB, I only have 6 of the BRaganzas besiegers though :(



I'm in the same situation. Which is why I've done a Besieger's/pavise modeling article for the summer campaign...   :biggriin:

Edit: It's in the second newsletter: http://www.vanlijsebetten.be/peter/Issue2.pdf

The pavises were pretty quick/easy to make. I'm not certain of a good source for crossbowmen with heavy armour. The few I've got from Zvezda's now out of production(?) set are probably going to fit that role for me, but I'm not certain about other options. Maybe Empire militia with old armoured upper torsos, helmets, etc?

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Moxer on June 15, 2010, 07:33:37 AM
Thanks Midaski, that clears things up.
Warlord games states on ther website: "The Morion packs have temporarily been taken off sale while we remake the mould.
They should be available to order again by the 21st June 2010."

Your bulk order has worn out their mould! :ph34r:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on June 15, 2010, 10:50:55 AM
Thanks Midaski, that clears things up.
Warlord games states on ther website: "The Morion packs have temporarily been taken off sale while we remake the mould.
They should be available to order again by the 21st June 2010."

Your bulk order has worn out their mould! :ph34r:

Oh that's interesting. I was a bit disappointed with all the flash and the quality of some of them, but I clipped and filed away.
Maybe I should complain now .............

 :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Marek on June 16, 2010, 05:14:13 PM
Hello knowledgable sages,

I have decided to purchase a WAB (AoA) Early Saxon Army, and was wondering if anyone has any figs from either:

http://www.musketeer-miniatures.com/ (http://www.musketeer-miniatures.com/) or http://www.grippingbeast.com/webpage.php?PageID=1 (http://www.grippingbeast.com/webpage.php?PageID=1).

Can anyone recommend one range/manufacturer over the other? Would the ranges mix? and am I missing even better early Saxon alternatives? Quality not price is my main consideration, but having never purchased figs from either company any feedback would be apprieciated.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on June 16, 2010, 05:55:15 PM
Wargames Factory is about to release two sets of Saxon warriors on foot, armored and unarmored.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 16, 2010, 07:26:12 PM


I think the WF Saxons will be more suitable for later Saxons. There are minor differences between those and the earlier Saxons. So it depends on how particular you are about it. The AoA Early Saxon list is characterized by more mobile, bucker-wielding invaders, as opposed to the later, more static shield-wall type infantry.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Marek on June 16, 2010, 08:53:00 PM
At the moment I'm planning on early period, so bucklers, however I might check out the Shieldwall supplement first, as if I have the option to go for shields and end up with an army usable for two periods, that might change my mind.

Thanks for the heads up on WF  - tbh their website gives me brain-ache so I had never fully checkeed out their range.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on June 17, 2010, 01:30:23 AM
Just keep in mind ... WF hasn't released their two boxes of Saxons yet, but they've already been to tooling, were advertised in a recent issue of Wargames Illustrated, and it is expected they'll be released soon.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 17, 2010, 12:37:46 PM
At the moment I'm planning on early period, so bucklers, however I might check out the Shieldwall supplement first, as if I have the option to go for shields and end up with an army usable for two periods, that might change my mind.

I had considered that plan as well.  :-D
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Moxer on July 06, 2010, 05:53:16 PM
Special offer by warlord games, i copied this from theris website:


In the Warlord office we’re all feeling a little bit down after England’s* World Cup performance. At time like this we find ourselves building more toy soldiers to cheer ourselves up. And we were doing just that when we realised that the entire country was probably feeling down and could do with a smile.

To help perk you up we’re not only giving you FREE SHIPPING on all orders placed during July but also launching our superb Plastic Fantastic! special offer.  Who needs footy when you can have free plastic miniatures…


PLastic Fantastic! is a simple but effective offer – you buy 3 Warlord Games plastic boxed sets and you can then choose a fourth absolutely FREE!

Choose your  three plastic boxed sets from the drop down menus here and then select a fourth box that will be sent to you gratis. That will help fill up all the time you had allocated to watching football. Just be careful not to cry in the paint…

Note: Sadly the Starter Army Boxed sets (Roman Starter Army and Pike & Shotte Battalia) are not available as your free plastic boxed set. Also this offer only applies to Warlord Plastic Boxed Sets and not to Perry Miniatures, Gripping Beast, Victrix, etc. No amount of pleading will change this, please don’t humiliate yourself by begging, it’s most unbecoming and not the way Warlord customers behave. You are better than that…

*  International customers may wish to substitute England for United States/ France/ Ghana / Korea Republic / Mexico / Slovakia / Chile / Japan / Portugal / South Africa / Greece / Nigeria / Slovenia / Algeria / Australia / Denmark / Cameroon / Serbia / New Zealand / Italy / South Korea / Cote d’Ivoire / Switzerland / Honduras (delete as appropriate)


Now, you can get 160 Pikemen/handgunners for 54 pounds. I am sure some miniholics will find an excuse to buy these. I just need an excuse my wife is content with...any ideas?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on July 06, 2010, 07:22:39 PM
I subscribe to their newsletter, so I have seen this ............

Just hope it continues for another few days - my credit card billing date is the 12th, and it's my birthday on the 13th so any order that day will not need paying off until early September

 :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on July 07, 2010, 01:08:46 AM
I'm resisting.  Too much on my work table at the moment anyway.

Funny advertisement though and thanks for sharing! :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on July 07, 2010, 11:17:09 AM
Apparently it runs for the whole of July  :engel:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on July 13, 2010, 03:37:03 PM
There's a rules books deal on Warhammer Historical

http://warhammer-historical.com/acatalog/Warhammer_Ancient_Battles.html

Buy one get next at half price, and it works cheap book at £13.00 as the main one, and a £20.00 one at half price  :icon_exclaim:

Warlord have a WAB 2 specials deal on as well:
http://www.warlordgames.co.uk/?p=6604

{and the actual book works out cheaper if you get it from them as you save £2 plus the £3.00 shipping}

The Wargames Factory Saxons are on their way to Northstar - have been shipped, so expected early next week.

I've had the day off and been broswing the UK sites for Wargames Factory stuff. The $19.99 boxes seem to vary from £13.49 to £15.50 but nobody seems to have a full stock.
I was trying to find a Chariot box, Roman Cavalry and a Celt/Germanic Cavalry box, and nobody had all three sets.
Is that an indication of their popularity?
Is it possible they suffer from us British supporting Warlord Games more?

Warlord's cavalry and chariots are metal, whereas the WF ones are plastic, so seemingly better value and more flexible.


Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 14, 2010, 03:45:33 AM

I bought some of Warlord's Celts. But the thing that's turned me off a lot of their subsequent sets is the fact that they've mixed metal with the same re-used plastic bits. If their Germans were all plastic, I would have bought some.

In fact, I'm not crazy about a lot of their metals in general. Part of that might be the paint jobs on the web page, though. But I can't be sure as I haven't got any of the metals. At least the plastics are cheap, too.

I was just poking about their page and noticed this, though:

http://www.warlordgames.co.uk/?p=6601

Looks promising!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on July 14, 2010, 08:32:25 AM
I bought some of their ECW metal villagers and pikemen.
They are ok.

I too am not convinced about the idea of metal extras to convert the plastic warriors from Celts to Germans or Dacians - though of course GW Ed.5 Soldier boxes came with metal command bits and hangunner or xbow arms.  :closed-eyes:

The metal Chariots and Cavalry is also expensive compared to Wargames Factory plastic versions, and their rider sprues are different for the Celts and Germans.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 14, 2010, 01:17:54 PM
I didn't like the old GW plastic state troops with metal command bits either. IIRC, they did the same thing with Skaven and maybe some others.

Plastic to plastic and metal to metal are fine with me. But metal to plastic is a hassle. Especially when the metal bits are all on the upper half of the figure, making them top heavy.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: FR1DAY on July 18, 2010, 11:27:09 AM
Amen,

my 5th edition standard bearers still fall over to this day!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Aldaris on July 18, 2010, 11:30:34 AM
Have you tried gluing something weighty (a coin will often suffice) into the underside of the base? Or is it THAT bad?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on July 18, 2010, 03:39:55 PM
I like the look of these:

http://www.warlordgames.co.uk/?p=6776

12 multipose hard plastic cavalry - at I guess probably around £15.00  :biggriin:





Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: shavixmir on July 18, 2010, 03:43:09 PM
Did someone suggest, in this thread, that I don't have to place maurauders on those large bases they're supplied with?
I'm going to be using a unit of celtic warriors as a unit of maurauders and I need to buy bases. Can I buy the small ones or do I have to use the larger ones?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Aldaris on July 18, 2010, 03:55:21 PM
If your opponent is a dick, he will moan about you using the smaller ones. You could fight a clever legal battle though: the GW rule is that models generally have to be mounted on the bases they come with, but if you don't use GW models... *wink, wink* *nudge, nudge*

On the other hand: what would you rather be doing, arguing rules or playing the game? So I suggest using 25 mm.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on July 18, 2010, 04:37:47 PM
Did someone suggest, in this thread, that I don't have to place maurauders on those large bases they're supplied with?
I'm going to be using a unit of celtic warriors as a unit of maurauders and I need to buy bases. Can I buy the small ones or do I have to use the larger ones?

The question is what are they being used for?

If it's a Chaos army they should be on 25mm square I think.

If it's for your Brets or you wish to use them in another rules set as something else 20mm will be ok.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: 132nd on July 18, 2010, 04:40:33 PM
  Hey guys.  Just out of curiosity does anyone know any good US retailers or online stores where I could get decent looking (preferrably cheap and plastic) peasants or other stand ins for state troops.  I was going to use wargames factory celts, but I don't think they would fit to nicely into an Empire army. 
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 19, 2010, 02:38:36 PM


The two options I can think of are to either go earlier or later in time.

So one early option would be Saxons or other "dark-age" type stuff.  Right now that would mean Wargames Factory or maybe Gripping Beast. The unarmoured guys might look a little more convincing, as I think mail armour would seem a bit out of place in the Empire. (But that's just my opinion -- other people may like that sort of thing.) You'll be limited to just infantry in this case, as the cavalry will really look out of place in the Empire.

Closer in time would be the Perry Miniatures Wars of the Roses figures. Right now they have a set with archers and billmen. Unfortunately (for Empire players), it's very heavy on the archers. Suitable for WotR, but not so great for state troop selections. You may be able to convert some of them with other weapons/arms.

The later option would be for the English Civil War figures, which would mean Warlord Games. You'd be somewhat limited to pike and handgunners, though you could probably convert some other troops. I think they've got cavalry as well.

In the case of cavalry, most other manufacturers' cavalry will look tiny compared to GW. So you may just wish to stick with GW or some alternate fantasy brand (metal.)

In terms of where to buy some of this in the US, I'd check The Warstore. I've had great service from them in the past, and they carry quite a bit. They've got everything mentioned above except Gripping Beast:

http://www.thewarstore.com/

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: 132nd on July 19, 2010, 02:51:28 PM
  Have a pint on me for all your advice 023.    :::cheers:::  I've looked at the war store in the past, but since I had no idea what to buy I didn't go for it.  But, now based on your advice I can probably make a good decision.   
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 19, 2010, 03:50:40 PM
 :::cheers:::

Whoops. I also forgot to mention something else regarding the Perry Miniatures.

In addition to the bow & halberd set they currently have, they are supposed to be releasing a second set with pikemen, crossbowmen & handgunners in the near future. Those might be worth waiting on, too.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on July 19, 2010, 10:14:45 PM
Closer in time would be the Perry Miniatures Wars of the Roses figures. Right now they have a set with archers and billmen. Unfortunately (for Empire players), it's very heavy on the archers. Suitable for WotR, but not so great for state troop selections. You may be able to convert some of them with other weapons/arms.

You can make 24 halberdiers, including the command group. That's plenty.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on July 26, 2010, 08:11:05 PM
I've just noticed that Vendel have been sold/taken over by SGMM in the USA.

I think the original Vendel team sold out to Stafford Games a year or so ago, and now that seems to have died too. Just checked the Stafford site and no mention of Vendel.
The SGMM site has renamed them 'Molon Labe' - and I have been trying to work that one out  ................... :engel:

I bought a lot of their elizabethans/reivers for my Estalian army a few years ago, and a couple of their elephants too.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 28, 2010, 01:34:17 AM
I like the look of these:

http://www.warlordgames.co.uk/?p=6776

12 multipose hard plastic cavalry - at I guess probably around £15.00  :biggriin:


Oooh... guess a little higher... £25.00  :-(

http://shop.warlordgames.co.uk/cuirrasiers-4411-p.asp

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on July 28, 2010, 07:54:28 AM
Yeah I read it wrong.
On the box it says "12 Multipart plastic" which is as far as I got,  :icon_rolleyes: and I should have continued to read "and metal"

The horses are plastic, the riders metal, and I think some of the arms are separate.

As we discussed above - I am wary of WG's metals and their habit of mixing.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on July 28, 2010, 08:07:29 AM
In addition to the bow & halberd set they currently have, they are supposed to be releasing a second set with pikemen, crossbowmen & handgunners in the near future. Those might be worth waiting on, too.

*drool*
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 28, 2010, 03:15:00 PM
Yeah I read it wrong.
On the box it says "12 Multipart plastic" which is as far as I got,  :icon_rolleyes: and I should have continued to read "and metal"

The horses are plastic, the riders metal, and I think some of the arms are separate.

As we discussed above - I am wary of WG's metals and their habit of mixing.


I missed that too. They were a lot more appealing when they were all plastic.

Although metal riders on plastic horses is OK. They're sort of like separate figures you glue together. I just don't like mixing metal bits on plastic figures.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 03, 2010, 06:57:51 PM


More new Perry Wars of the Roses stuff:

http://theminiaturespage.com/news/254637/

All very nice figures. Really liking that bombard!

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on August 03, 2010, 07:23:19 PM
I saw the 'greens' version a while back.

I am waiting for the second plastics box, and then I will probably look at mixing them with my old style metal Brets for a couple of Medieval armies.

Of course I will have finished my 5 WFB Empire Armies and my 600 WAB Ancients figures beforehand - when are they due out 2019 is it?


Actually as we are talking about ridiculous things - how are those models only £6 a pack for 6 models :icon_exclaim:   
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 03, 2010, 07:47:12 PM
They don't have shareholders or an out of control marketing overhead to pay.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: FR1DAY on August 03, 2010, 08:34:27 PM
Does anyone know when they are released? Also the second plastic box? Will make a nice unit of men at arms for the campaign when they are out.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on August 04, 2010, 09:43:06 AM
Awesome bombard! Amazing dismounted men-at-arms!

I need those.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on August 04, 2010, 09:58:31 AM
Those M@A attacking with polearms would make fantastic Doppelsöldner/Greatswords if you swap the halberds for hammers.

Great stuff.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on August 04, 2010, 10:02:23 AM
Those M@A attacking with polearms would make fantastic Doppelsöldner/Greatswords if you swap the halberds for hammers.

Vandalism!

You could easily use them as greatswords without changing the weapons. No one would find that confusing.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on August 04, 2010, 10:11:57 AM
You are right, but I simply like hammers as weapons. I've always been looking for suitable models, but haven't found any so far.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 04, 2010, 01:47:30 PM
Does anyone know when they are released? Also the second plastic box? Will make a nice unit of men at arms for the campaign when they are out.

I believe those in the announcement are available now.

I'm waiting on that second plastic box too. I haven't heard anything about it yet.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on August 04, 2010, 06:03:24 PM
There were some pics of greens a while back on TMP - and I think it was explained somewhere that with all the various stages of production it would be September.

In fact it might have been an email from them after I asked before Salute in April, or it might have been at Salute on their stand, ............. and it might actually have been November ............

Well what do you expect - I'm old. ................ You're lucky I remembered who the Perrys are. :engel:

Edit:
Remembered where my email folders are ............

"Hi Gents,
I see you have a stand at Salute –
Will the new second box of WotR be available or will you perhaps have some 3ups on show?
Mark"


Reply

"Hello Mark
 
We will only be selling our existing plastic ranges.
The next WoTR will be a few months yet.
 
Alan"



So that was April - define a few months - more than 3 = August.

 :closed-eyes:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on August 05, 2010, 10:23:05 AM
Anyone had any dealings with Black Tree in the UK recently? I need a unit of dwarven hammerers but refuse to pay the frankly offensive GW price for them...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on August 05, 2010, 11:24:07 AM
Anyone had any dealings with Black Tree in the UK recently? I need a unit of dwarven hammerers but refuse to pay the frankly offensive GW price for them...

Yes - but although they have an address down in Cornwall on the site, I think most of the stuff is done from their Texas base.

There is another thread where I mentioned getting some of Camels from them - like Padre's - and just how long it takes to turn up.

http://warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=33589.0

To sum up:
Plusses - Nice models - have had lots of stuff on sale for a while.

Minuses - No communication - Delivery for me was 4 weeks and then about 6/7 and one set is still to follow** - Said that they didn't take your money until the order was ready and my money came off my card same day I ordered - and although I was charged in GBP on the site, the credit card showed I was charged more as they had taken the payment in dollars.

** When my second order turned up there was a set missing, but I did get 7 extra infantry models - there was a note saying "sorry for delay - other set to  follow" but no mention of the extras, so I wasn't sure if it was an error, or a bonus to make up for the delay.


I get the impression  that they are run/owned by some older guys, and it is not full time business. They took over the old Harlequin outfit I think in the past.

Nice stuff but you need to be patient and be a bit tolerant.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on August 05, 2010, 11:39:48 AM
Thanks

given its £60 for a unit of 20 hammerers from GW or £14 for a unit of 18 from BTD...I'll suck it up and hope they get mine out quickly!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on August 05, 2010, 09:06:38 PM
This might be worth a look - an Independent review, I think, of the two plastic Viking boxes out at the moment.

http://www.hourofwolves.org/?view=articles&which=vikingFaceOff

Pictures and info.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GambitGriffin on August 05, 2010, 10:13:26 PM
I was thinking about buying these to boost up my greatswords to 40 (thanks to Finlay :-)) http://www.artizandesigns.com/prod.php?prod=1776
It says "The deal does not include a flag", what exactly does that mean? Does it mean that I can still paint a flag, like on GW figures, or don't they come with any banner at all?
If someone has picture of the sprue I would be most grateful :)

My friend asked me to ask you guys if you know if there is any good medieval knights out there? He plays brets and want to expand but like me he's low on cash and also like variety in his army.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Badwolf on August 05, 2010, 11:31:19 PM
If someone has picture of the sprue I would be most grateful :)

GG, they're metal, not plastic so you won't find any sprue pics.

These are the pics on the Artizan site.
http://www.artizandesigns.com/prod.php?prod=1750 (http://www.artizandesigns.com/prod.php?prod=1750)
http://www.artizandesigns.com/prod.php?prod=1751 (http://www.artizandesigns.com/prod.php?prod=1751)
http://www.artizandesigns.com/prod.php?prod=1736 (http://www.artizandesigns.com/prod.php?prod=1736)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GambitGriffin on August 06, 2010, 10:44:23 AM
He he I knew they were metal but I don't know what hmm "metal sprues" are called? Just models? :)
Either way, tanks for the pics, I guess it means I have to buy the flag as well? Who is the standard bearer and do I need to buy some kind of standard pole. the thing the banner i hanging on?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on August 06, 2010, 12:27:15 PM
A lot of metal manufacturers supply 'weapons' separately from the miniature, and you either get them loose in the blister/box, or have to buy them separately.

Some will do soft metal spears/halberds which usually arrive bent and are quite difficult to straighten out and keep straight.

A lot also offer 'spears' in different lengths - so javelins, spears or pikes - in steel which arrive straight, normally stay straight, and can be very sharp if you put your hand down on them by accident ..........  :engel:

If you look at the Artizan sight you will find a link to 'wires' or 'spears' and you can see what's available.

Some of the new plastics are coming with this 'open-hand' style - you get the weapons separately and they will fit/glue into the open hand of the model.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on August 06, 2010, 01:29:58 PM
He he I knew they were metal but I don't know what hmm "metal sprues" are called? Just models? :)
Either way, tanks for the pics, I guess it means I have to buy the flag as well? Who is the standard bearer and do I need to buy some kind of standard pole. the thing the banner i hanging on?
The standard bearer just has a gap in his hand to place the pole on, and then afix the banner to that.
I will take some pics of them next to GW models.
Possibly not until sunday, as I do have a life to live. (and work to go to :( )
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on August 06, 2010, 07:26:56 PM
Yeah I read it wrong.
On the box it says "12 Multipart plastic" which is as far as I got,  :icon_rolleyes: and I should have continued to read "and metal"

The horses are plastic, the riders metal, and I think some of the arms are separate.

As we discussed above - I am wary of WG's metals and their habit of mixing.

Take a look at Renegade Miniatures (www.renegademiniatures.com (http://www.renegademiniatures.com)) - 9 all metal Cuirasiers for £12 if you buy the regimental packs
(http://www.fantasy-miniatures.de/fotos/wargamesstyle/renegadeecw/cuirassier/cuirassier12.jpg)

Other ranges include Chinese Waring states, late Saxons, and Punic Wars Early Republican Romans, Carthaginians, Celts, Spanish, Libyans and Numidians

Infantry regimental sets normally have between 20 to 24 figures for £11.95 including command.

These figures are on the large side and may actually be bigger than some of the GW figures


Also, the Conquest Games website is now up and running for plastic 28mm Norman goodness. Figures due for release next month
http://www.conquest-games.co.uk (http://www.conquest-games.co.uk)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 06, 2010, 10:20:20 PM

Yeah, Renegade is definitely one of the few manufacturers making cavalry to rival the size of GW. I don't have any of the ECW, but here's a shot of one of their Celts, along with a few other figures ( a couple GW)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/minicomps/rencomp1.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/minicomps/rencomp2.jpg)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GambitGriffin on August 08, 2010, 04:29:22 PM
Quote
The standard bearer just has a gap in his hand to place the pole on, and then afix the banner to that.
I will take some pics of them next to GW models.
Possibly not until sunday, as I do have a life to live. (and work to go to :( )

That would be very nice indeed! Thank you kind sire!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on August 08, 2010, 04:40:49 PM
MY colleagues great grandad is dying, so I am covering his shift.
I'll post pics tomorrow.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GambitGriffin on August 09, 2010, 04:05:12 PM
Hope it turned out okey, looking forward for some pictures.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on August 09, 2010, 04:23:17 PM
(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg88/nottsfootballfan/IMAG0081.jpg)

Next to a Flaggie

(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg88/nottsfootballfan/IMAG0080.jpg)

Next to a 6th swordsman.

They are quite tall, although that is partly due to their base, the round metal bit at the bottom of their feet must add a good few mm.
You can also see the middle model is the banner bearer, with a hole in his hand (that you cant really see) for the banner pole.
I really want to paint these now. Sexy as hell models.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Nicholas Bies on August 09, 2010, 04:27:11 PM
I really want to paint these now. Sexy as hell models.

They look like a lot of fun to paint!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on August 09, 2010, 04:31:40 PM
Yes.
The moulding is really crap though, much much worse than GW.
I desperately need a file, and cba to buy one...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Nicholas Bies on August 09, 2010, 04:35:42 PM
I was going through some of my Rackham figures today going "they'd be fun to paint" I also want to nab Konrad von Carstein. Really like that model.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GambitGriffin on August 09, 2010, 04:53:34 PM
Thanks Finlay! The size looks good and I think they will mix quite well with the new goldswords, if not I can run them as an independent unit. In the worst case if none-GW models is banned they were at least cheap so I guess I have nothing to lose:)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on August 09, 2010, 04:57:31 PM
Yes I think they will mix with the new goldswords too, as they have gone back to a more traditional empire theme of Puff and Slash, as opposed to the disgustingly shite 7th edition state troops.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GambitGriffin on August 09, 2010, 05:25:40 PM
I just placed my order:) I must say it was very easy without any stupid unnecessary register things:)

Its mostly the stupid poses and faces that bother me right now. At least halberds and spearmen looks okey imo. 
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 18, 2010, 07:13:22 PM


Off in a totally different, non-Empire-y direction...

http://www.immortalminiatures.com/page84.html
http://www.immortalminiatures.com/page85.html
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on August 18, 2010, 09:20:31 PM
I think Fandir has some of these?

Are they like Warlord - one basic sprue and then different head/helmet options between the Classical and Spartan boxes?

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 18, 2010, 09:23:28 PM
My understanding from the web page and email are that these new sets will use some of the existing plastic sprues, but also use some new plastic sprues. So no mixed metal & plastic, like Warlord.

Only the first set has been released. I'm exited about these, because they're from the later period, as opposed to the earlier period for which the first kit was more appropriate.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on August 18, 2010, 09:37:38 PM
I refuse to pay attention to them   :engel:

- I have no interest in that earlier period 
- I have far too many Romans and Barbarians already.

 :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on August 19, 2010, 12:01:32 PM
I quite like the plastic Greeks. But really, what am I going to do with them?


I've ordered the new men-at-arms from Perry Miniatures. I expect them to be awesome.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on August 26, 2010, 10:23:44 AM
I've posted this in my Ramblings thread, but it deserves a mention in this thread.
You may be familiar with this

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat480008a&prodId=prod1120095&rootCatGameStyle=

Now look at this

http://www.dwarftales.com/galleries/5

Look at the female squire/ranger and click on the image for a full set.


Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: warhammerlord_soth on August 26, 2010, 11:06:49 AM
I refuse to pay attention to them   :engel:

- I have no interest in that earlier period 
- I have far too many Romans and Barbarians already.

 :engel:

Keep repeating it Mids...


It has never worked for me so far though....
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 26, 2010, 08:04:32 PM


I'm not crazy about a lot of the more recent Foundry stuff. Their quality (both sculpting and casting) seems to be on the decline, while their prices continue to climb.

BUT... I just saw these in their e-newsletter and admit that a few (mainly the plague doctors) have caught my interest...

http://wargamesfoundry.com/fantasy_ranges/collections/fantasy/undead/witch_craft_plague_doctors_and_witch_finders_collection_bcund002/?sector_id=

The witches and hunters look pretty bad, though.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on August 26, 2010, 09:03:02 PM
The aritzan landsknechts are so fun to paint!
bit of puff and slash, bit of metal, bit of skin, and a hat. BOSH
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on August 26, 2010, 09:10:10 PM
Wargames Factory have some new Plastic Persians on view.

http://www.wargamesfactory.com/AnnouncementRetrieve.aspx?ID=35106


(http://www.wargamesfactory.com/Images/Persian-kopis.jpg)

(http://www.wargamesfactory.com/Images/Persian-Apple.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on August 26, 2010, 09:22:30 PM

(http://www.wargamesfactory.com/Images/Persian-ready.jpg)

(http://www.wargamesfactory.com/Images/Persian-bow.jpg)

I quite like the look of those ............

mmmmmmmm ..... more plastics
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mecha Coby on August 26, 2010, 09:31:36 PM
meh, They don't seem as nice as their Romans. But if they are doing Persians are they doing Spartans?

Has anyone seen the Celts (would make great Albions) and the Modern Zombies, of which I own 10 boxs that are to make my 40K Nurgle Daemons (Fydae Strain).

I think they are one of the better independent companies out there at the moment.
Mark
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on August 26, 2010, 09:45:29 PM
The aritzan landsknechts are so fun to paint!
bit of puff and slash, bit of metal, bit of skin, and a hat. BOSH

I was finishing the pikemen this evening. Nearly.

They take forever! Maybe it's quicker if you do them in a uniform scheme.



Not keen on those Persians. Or the Foundry stuff.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on August 26, 2010, 09:55:47 PM
Yes i imagine multi colours would be a pain.

That mine are half black obviously speeds it up! then just bleached bone, tausept ochre, iyanden darksun, and golden yellow final highlight for the yellow.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on August 26, 2010, 10:13:49 PM
That would be so much easier! Oh well.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 26, 2010, 10:35:17 PM
meh, They don't seem as nice as their Romans. But if they are doing Persians are they doing Spartans?

Has anyone seen the Celts (would make great Albions) and the Modern Zombies, of which I own 10 boxs that are to make my 40K Nurgle Daemons (Fydae Strain).

I think they are one of the better independent companies out there at the moment.

As much as I like the WF Romans & Numidians, I'm not fond of those Persians. Their Celts are probably my least favorite of their sets.



They take forever! Maybe it's quicker if you do them in a uniform scheme.

Yes i imagine multi colours would be a pain.

Since all of my own stuff is multi-color, that's what I'm used to. When I painted a set of 16+/- of the Foundry landsknechts in a uniform color for a friend I was amazed at how much quicker they were!

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Badwolf on August 27, 2010, 12:31:02 AM
meh, They don't seem as nice as their Romans.

They look quite nice to me. I'm far more tempted by those later (Peloponnesian War) Hoplites that 023 linked.  :icon_biggrin:.

But if they are doing Persians are they doing Spartans?
Good question. Though the Immortal miniatures Hoplites will be hard to top.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mecha Coby on August 27, 2010, 06:44:31 AM
Wow those are nice ancient greeks, great poses. Looking forward to the armoured ones as well as the Spartans that they're doing.

Thanks for sharing there existance with me,
Mark
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on August 27, 2010, 10:03:02 AM
meh, They don't seem as nice as their Romans. But if they are doing Persians are they doing Spartans?

I understood that WF themselves were not over happy with their Romans - first kit and they feel they could have done better, and it would be the first to be redone.
I have a box of 48 and they are OK, but I do feel the WG ones are better. With the Barbarian figures though I feel WF are way ahead.

I actually thought these Persians are pretty good - what are you comparing it to?

Just consider the value - the odds are that there will be around 30 in a box and the standard WF UK price seems to be £14.50
That's less than 50p (40c) a figure.

I doubt I will buy any - as I said back a page about the Immortal Greeks - I have to resist the time period.  :engel:

The Immortal plastics are ok - the one thing I do not like is the left arm sculpted on the shield - I hate that whoever it is - GW did it on some dwarfs and it was really naff.
 
* * * * * *


 (http://www.dwarftales.com/res/Nr9XN6HoTh/squire02.jpg)

No comments on this either :icon_question:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mecha Coby on August 27, 2010, 10:38:14 AM
I don't know why these persians dont do it for me, Its the armour and hat perhaps? I'll probebly change my mind when I see painted versions.

I liked thier Romans, maybe a little simple and chunky but for me they 'look' like Romans.
The Celts though, my Celtish blood says "Buy Buy" but my head says "Paint the 10 boxs of Zombies first you dolt!"

Price wise these guys have it spot on, Reasonable priced boxes that you get even cheaper if you buy in bulk. You can't fault them for that.

Mark
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 27, 2010, 06:56:05 PM
I've started working on a static web page with a manufacturers list on my blog.

Right now I am focusing on ancient and medieval historical figures, and will start adding terrain manufacturers for those periods as well.

This is my first draft, I'm sure I missed some. If anyone's got any additions/suggestions, let me know!

http://zerotwentythree.blogspot.com/p/28mm-figure-manufacturers.html

Thanks!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Badwolf on August 27, 2010, 06:59:42 PM
Looking good! I used to use "Miniatures Atlas" quite often but it seems have been down for some time.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 27, 2010, 07:09:16 PM
I'm updating this as other companies come to mind -- so I think I've added five new ones in the past 15 minutes since my last reply.  :-D
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on August 27, 2010, 08:14:55 PM
You can add black hat minis too.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on August 27, 2010, 10:30:24 PM
http://www.newlinedesigns.co.uk/

http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/pages/page.php?Medieval-Asia-16

http://www.scheltrum.co.uk/index.html

http://www.pendraken.co.uk/

http://www.westwindproductions.co.uk/catalog/index.php?infoBox=1&cPath=165&osCsid=d98b731a0a1e81a7386bf5f0833096e9

http://ageofbattles.ru/index.php?lng=eng&nav=antient

possibly
http://www.hat.com/current28.html
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 28, 2010, 03:38:58 AM


Thanks.

I've got TAG & Scheltrum already -- though the latter only does historical terrain as far as I can find on their web page. Correct me if I'm wrong. The only miniatures I've found there are fantasy.

I added Newline and West Wind. I missed both of those somehow.

Pendraken & Age of Battle (aka Zvezda?) don't do 25/28mm, do they? I thought they were strictly 10mm& 1/72, respectively.  Again, correct me if I'm wrong -- I tried taking a quick look at both pages.

I added HäT because of their El Cid range.

I feel a bit like I should put a disclaimer on that one, though. All the pics I've seen look really awful. But I'm trying to avoid commentary. Because if I put something like that in, then I'll feel required to put a warning about ordering from BTD... then I'll want to comment that it's best to find a third party seller for Foundry... and the whole thing will become a mess. So yeah, just added them without comment.  :wink:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on August 28, 2010, 08:26:54 AM
I feel a bit like I should put a disclaimer on that one, though. All the pics I've seen look really awful. But I'm trying to avoid commentary. Because if I put something like that in, then I'll feel required to put a warning about ordering from BTD... then I'll want to comment that it's best to find a third party seller for Foundry... and the whole thing will become a mess. So yeah, just added them without comment.  :wink:

It's useful to know those things though.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on August 28, 2010, 09:26:34 AM
Scheltrum ...........  because ..........

.................. and will start adding terrain manufacturers for those periods as well.


 :engel:
They do do some Asian minis, but I think they are more 1440 onwards
http://www.scheltrum.co.uk/index.html

Pendraken do some 28mm - I bought some pikemen at Salute - not over impressed.
Maybe later period than you are are concerned with here.

http://www.pendraken.co.uk/28mm-c24/

Their website also seems to play up quite a bit .............

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 28, 2010, 01:51:30 PM
Yeah, that's getting a bit late. I may add Pendraken anyway, though.

Will also add Black Hat. I didn't realize they did historicals - I've only seen their fantasy stuff before. Good catch, Timbor.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 28, 2010, 02:25:04 PM

It's useful to know those things though.


Maybe I will go back and add foot-notes later.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on August 29, 2010, 10:13:30 AM
*pic from catsuit female goes here*

Argh, why did they have to add high heels and a silly cleavage?

Could have been decent otherwise.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 29, 2010, 03:23:54 PM
Rangers always wear stiletto heals. Give better traction in the wild, and helps with climbing.  :roll:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on August 29, 2010, 06:43:11 PM
Yeah, that's getting a bit late. I may add Pendraken anyway, though.

Will also add Black Hat. I didn't realize they did historicals - I've only seen their fantasy stuff before. Good catch, Timbor.

Yeah, I was looking at their halflings, then decided to make sure they had a link.  Some of the historicals are nice, too.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: FR1DAY on August 30, 2010, 07:10:55 PM
Got 18 perry men at arms and they are great!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on August 30, 2010, 09:22:24 PM
Got 18 perry men at arms and they are great!


When did you order yours?

Mine haven't arrived yet.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: FR1DAY on August 30, 2010, 10:18:33 PM
within 4 days. I got the single arc cannon as well and the foot characters.

Really nice. Going to paint them in the next few days along with the remaining plastic men at arms i've got.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on August 30, 2010, 10:35:38 PM
4 days!

I've been waiting at least 11. That's annoying.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on August 31, 2010, 05:08:05 AM
11 days?

That would have given you more time to write more battle reports.

Chop-chop!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on August 31, 2010, 11:20:48 AM
I'd love to, but I have no one to play right now.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on August 31, 2010, 05:47:22 PM
Donnachaidh tells me that Gripping Beast - following the release of their Vikings back in April at Salute - have some plastic Saxons due out around November time.

I have hunted their site for evidence of this, without success so far, but the wily Scot is rarely wrong.

This is all damned annoying I can't decide which rules set to think about doing first - Romans/Barbarians, Dark Ages, Medieval or Fantasy.

 :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 31, 2010, 06:16:15 PM
This is all damned annoying I can't decide which rules set to think about doing first - Romans/Barbarians, Dark Ages, Medieval or Fantasy.



What is this "decide" thing of which you speak?

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on August 31, 2010, 07:01:54 PM
Did you read exactly what I wrote  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on August 31, 2010, 09:48:30 PM
Does anybody know how the gripping beast cavalry ranks up with GW stuff?  They have some nice early Russian stuff that would look good in a kislev army.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 01, 2010, 03:28:24 PM
Did you read exactly what I wrote  :engel:


Huh?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on September 01, 2010, 05:21:27 PM
Did you read exactly what I wrote  :engel:


Huh?

There was no plan of action - a mere hint I might think about doing something ...........  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on September 06, 2010, 05:03:43 PM
Things appear to be on the move at Conquest. Test sprues are back from Renedra and they are 'playing' with them at the moment.
Sounds like they should be on sale later this month.

(http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad342/Conquest_Games/Norman%20Knights/C6Thumbnail.jpg)

(http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad342/Conquest_Games/Norman%20Knights/C5Thumbnail.jpg)

It also sounds like there will be some special initial deals - the box of 12 mounted knights will likely retail at £18.00 but there is talk of a starter price of £15.00, and 3 boxes for £40.00

 :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 06, 2010, 05:39:30 PM
Any idea what the size of that base is? I'm curious how they scale up. I like the horse, but from what I saw of the 3-ups, the upper torso (shoulder/arm joint, mainly) of the riders looked inhuman. I'd like to see a front & back view to see if the actual figures look any better.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 06, 2010, 05:42:27 PM
Ah, there it is...
(http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad342/Conquest_Games/Norman%20Knights/C3forTGN-1.jpg)

 
The arm looks stuck onto the side of the chest, rather than coming from a shoulder joint.


Also, WTF is with the name. They had to pick a name almost identical to an existing miniatures company?

http://www.conquestminiatures.com/

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on September 07, 2010, 12:21:15 PM
Does anybody know how the gripping beast cavalry ranks up with GW stuff?  They have some nice early Russian stuff that would look good in a kislev army.

Not all that well really. Here's an example:

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f207/sparky_sparkfire/Empire/comp1.jpg)

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f207/sparky_sparkfire/Empire/comp2.jpg)

Emperor Basil II next to Marius Leitdorf. GW horses are much larger than Gripping Beasts. But I think it would look OK if you avoid mixing both types together in one unit.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on September 07, 2010, 10:15:15 PM
Thanks for the picture!  The GB horses look like they are at least bigger than the old glory ones.  I have 10 OG polish hussars that probably will never be used for that reason...

The riders don't look that different from GW ones either - could they fit on standard GW horses?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on September 07, 2010, 11:35:02 PM
I think the legs aren't wide enough to fit GW horses.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mecha Coby on September 07, 2010, 11:37:43 PM
Could always shave the saddle down so they fit or use the smaller horses as Steppes/plains horse were smaller than your average charger.

Still those Norman Knights  :unsure: look cool
Mark
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on September 08, 2010, 05:12:45 AM
I think the legs aren't wide enough to fit GW horses.

Prudent bastards!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on September 08, 2010, 10:06:51 AM
The arm looks stuck onto the side of the chest, rather than coming from a shoulder joint.

That's a 3-up isn't it?
Looking at the latest pics on the forum of a made-up unit it would seem that the arms are separate, so that may be an anomaly. There is something odd about it as it looks in that picture though.
Still 12 mounted knights for around £15 will do for me.


Also, WTF is with the name. They had to pick a name almost identical to an existing miniatures company?


Well they are making Normans and "The Norman Conquest" is a very well known phrase in the English Language.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 08, 2010, 01:47:29 PM
Well they are making Normans and "The Norman Conquest" is a very well known phrase in the English Language.



I get where the name comes from. Great name -- if someone else didn't already use it. It's an exceptionally bad marketing & identity choice given that it's almost identical to another miniatures company (Conquest Miniatures), and apparently a board game company making plastic gaming pieces (Conquest Gaming.)


Watch what happens when I type "conquest games miniatures" into Google:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=WUL&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=conquest+games+miniatures&aq=f&aqi=g1&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

Conquest Miniatures (different company, already in existence & producing miniatures for years) comes up at the top of the page. Going through the first five pages of results, the Conquest Games site is nowhere to be found.


A query of "conquest games" returns:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=kVL&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=conquest+games&aq=f&aqi=g8g-m2&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

Another competitor called Conquest Gaming, who make "plastic miniatures" for board games, etc. And once again, Conquest Games is nowhere to be found in the first few pages of results.


The only way I found their page was to go to Table Top Gaming News & look for an article about them, then follow the link.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on September 08, 2010, 01:49:02 PM
Why not just call it "Hastings" and be done with it?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on September 08, 2010, 02:39:07 PM
I just did your second link search and they were 4th one down ................ ?

It is quite possible that they haven't thought about 'optimising' their website yet - they haven't finalised it yet, and they don't have any product available.

I take your point, but then you could make a similar observation about words like "Wargames" - coming up with new original names could prove awkward.
I suggested they used Conquest because of their first range being Normans, but the word does not conflict with any other future races or eras.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 08, 2010, 02:50:19 PM



Might be a regional thing - the 4th link down when I click that is for an online video game.

At least "wargames" is a generic, descriptive term. Like a bakery having the word "bakery" in their title.

But if someone named their new company "Wargaming Foundry" or "Gaming Workshop" on the other hand, it would be just as bad a choice, IMHO. People still get confused between Game Designers Workshop and Games Workshop, for example.



Back to the figures... I tracked down their forum and saw the pics, but they were a bit small and blurry. The arms in the other poses (lifted) looked better. I'm curious to see some of these in the flesh.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on September 08, 2010, 02:57:21 PM
Back to the figures... I tracked down their forum and saw the pics, but they were a bit small and blurry. The arms in the other poses (lifted) looked better. I'm curious to see some of these in the flesh.

Yes I have seen them - there is a new close-up of the champion with a sword, and I cannot see a join at the shoulder of any of the models - which makes me wonder whether the mail is all part of the body, and the 'arm' fits where the mail ends just above the elbow.
This is not a good thing - I find that restricts your posability.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on September 13, 2010, 02:44:15 PM
I need to buy this:

http://thunderboltmountain.com/serendipity/uploads/Squidboy.JPG
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Badwolf on September 13, 2010, 03:23:45 PM
 :eusa_clap:.

I've put in my pre-release order for these.... http://www.crooked-dice.co.uk/store/mini_angels.jpg (http://www.crooked-dice.co.uk/store/mini_angels.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 13, 2010, 03:28:33 PM
I need to buy this:

http://thunderboltmountain.com/serendipity/uploads/Squidboy.JPG


I was just looking at those. You really should get that & use it in your army.

Don't know what I will use it for, but I want the Slug Eat Your Face too. The whole range is amazing (well, everything Tom Meier does is amazing!)




Anyone else catch the announcement of this:

http://wargamesfactory.com/announcements/first-orc-render

(http://wargamesfactory.com/Images/orc_render.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on September 14, 2010, 06:20:16 AM
Looks like an excellent hobgoblin except for the slab for a shield.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 14, 2010, 09:18:35 PM


Thought I'd share a link to a recent entry on a blog I follow. Foundry & Mirliton used as Swiss, beautifully painted. Great banners, too.

http://menix-miniatures.blogspot.com/2010/09/early-swiss-some-more.html

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on September 17, 2010, 03:06:47 PM
I've just had a Foundry email where they state they are now stocking some GW stuff :icon_exclaim:

I know there's a fair amount of history between the two companies, but I find this hard to understand. Rumours that Foundry are not particuarly profitable have been around for a while, but is this a positive step.

On the other hand a cynic might say the two most overpriced manufactuers in the industry getting together is not surprising ..............  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on September 17, 2010, 08:37:39 PM
I got the same email, and it surprised me too.

Mind you Foundry, while they have some lovely stuff, seem not to have noticed a LOT of other people now do stuff just as good for a LOT less cost, and while fantasy gamers might pay over the odds, historical gamers wont...and the Foundry stuff doesnt have the difference in quality it used to.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 17, 2010, 09:05:39 PM

and the Foundry stuff doesnt have the difference in quality it used to.


Definitely not. And in fact, I'd say their most recent figures (past few years, at least) are not as good as the competition. (At least some of which is offered by some of their own previous sculptors!)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on September 20, 2010, 04:38:28 PM
Northstar has announced the new Artizan Landsknecht Halberdiers - but no picture yet.

http://www.artizandesigns.com/prod.php?prod=1822
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on September 21, 2010, 11:12:48 AM
Northstar has announced the new Artizan Landsknecht Halberdiers - but no picture yet.

http://www.artizandesigns.com/prod.php?prod=1822

That's good news.


My Perry men-at-arms arrived yesterday, about a month late.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on September 23, 2010, 12:12:09 PM
Oooh I like this - no high heels either ..................

http://www.dwarftales.com/

New Hetman - a click in the top left corner will show more images
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on September 23, 2010, 12:23:29 PM
Looking good!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on September 24, 2010, 11:37:18 AM
I've just had a Foundry email where they state they are now stocking some GW stuff :icon_exclaim:

I know there's a fair amount of history between the two companies, but I find this hard to understand. Rumours that Foundry are not particuarly profitable have been around for a while, but is this a positive step.

On the other hand a cynic might say the two most overpriced manufactuers in the industry getting together is not surprising ..............  :engel:

My take on it is that Brian Ansell is trying to keep Foundry solvent so the books look better to a prospective buyer for Foundry than would otherwise be the case. If the figures on the ledger drop away then so does his asking price. ;-)
Ansell has been trying to flog Foundry for around 5 years now.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on September 28, 2010, 08:49:04 AM
I'd have thought a better option for him would have been getting a deal with the likes of Maelstrom going to sell foundry stuff...it might make it affordable, even if P&P is a sensible price!
Title: TAG puffy sleeves
Post by: White Knight on October 03, 2010, 11:27:35 AM
I don't recall seeing these maximilian guards from TAG here:

(http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/store/files/detailed_images/d_2544.jpg)

http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/store/product.php?productid=1319&cat=125&page=1 (http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/store/product.php?productid=1319&cat=125&page=1)

Very "Marienburg". Looks like I'll need to add them to my next order.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on October 03, 2010, 11:59:13 AM
Oh, they have useful papal guard too, in their Italian (~Tilean) range:

(http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/store/files/detailed_images/d_2517.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on October 03, 2010, 04:46:00 PM
Conquest's Norman Knights are nearly ready.

(http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad342/Conquest_Games/Norman%20Knights/normanregimentphoto1.jpg)

Sounds like they will have some at SELWG on Oct 17th
Title: Re: TAG puffy sleeves
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 03, 2010, 07:27:57 PM
I don't recall seeing these maximilian guards from TAG here:

(http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/store/files/detailed_images/d_2544.jpg)

http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/store/product.php?productid=1319&cat=125&page=1 (http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/store/product.php?productid=1319&cat=125&page=1)

Very "Marienburg". Looks like I'll need to add them to my next order.

I bought a pack of those, just to see how they were. Also a pack of Italian handgunners and Italian pike. They look just slightly leaner/smaller than the Foundry figures. I'll post pics in the B&P when I get some cleaned up and at least primed, if not painted.

Both the Maximilian and Papal sets seem to be possibly based on the same set of 4 dollies, from the poses of the legs  (though the arms are different.) But I find the difference in head size between those two pictures to be a bit... odd.  :|

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Badwolf on October 03, 2010, 08:40:51 PM
I was looking through TAG's Ottoman range just last week as I'm currently working on my Araby army. Unfortunately my army is based around an early medieval look rather than renaissance so I can't really mix in any Ottomans without them looking somewhat out of place. (A couple of cannon may be the exception).

However ... if anyone else is thinking about an Araby army (using the Empire list), these are definitely worth a look:

(http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/store/files/detailed_images/d_522.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Zygmund on October 04, 2010, 12:05:18 AM
Change the turbans into fur hats, and you have Kislevites. :)

-Z
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: InsideReticle on October 05, 2010, 07:39:45 PM
I'm looking to get a whole bunch of plastic halberd wielding infantry cheaply and I live in the US.  I like the perry miniatures War of the Roses infantry, but you only get 18 billmen (which I would use as halberds), and 18 archers, which are basically useless to me.  Maybe I could just add halberd arms to the archer bodies and stick them in the back?

I was/am a fan of the Zvezda Royal Infantry from the stickied mini comparison thread but I'm getting the impression they are out of business (or at least that those minis are out of production), and it seems they'd be difficult to get in the US.

Any suggestions for good manufacturers or carriers?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on October 06, 2010, 12:30:05 AM
Not sure you will find much in the 28mm range for plastic halberdiers if you are looking a landschneckt type scheme.  warlord games has their pike and shotte range - the pikes could be converted to halberds.  Otherwise, you could convert minis from their viking or roman ranges.  The same goes for wargames factory.

I would suggest getting the perry miniatures troops and try to find some 5th ed halberd arms for converting the bowmen.  Otherwise, look for used minis.

How cheap are you looking for?  Artizan just came out with some beautiful metal halberdiers at about 1.13 GBP per figure, compared to 1.5 GBP per figure for the crappy empire plastic state troops.  If you want it much cheaper, I would look for used stuff.

Artizan halberds:
(http://www.artizandesigns.com/images/img1822.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 06, 2010, 05:52:42 AM


I agree.

You'll not find many other plastic halberds beyond the ones you mentioned (Perry, Zvezda.) But as Timbor mentioned, many of the metal historical figures are available at a similar (or less) price to GW's plastic.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: shavixmir on October 06, 2010, 05:21:39 PM
are there any manufacturers with a halfling / hobbit range?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 06, 2010, 05:43:09 PM


Mirliton
Goblin Factory (don' t know if they ever posted pics of their halflings, but I've got some photos)
Black Hat
Black Tree Design (with the usual warning that your figures may take anywhere from 12 days to 12 months to actually show up)

Those are the ones I can think of quickly.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on October 06, 2010, 05:56:04 PM
I've got several of these .......

http://www.thebattleforge.co.uk/halflings_11.html

... they're 'ugly' style, so they should suit you.  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on October 07, 2010, 10:32:33 AM
Some more listed here:

http://doc.frothersunite.com/minis/halflings.html (http://doc.frothersunite.com/minis/halflings.html)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on October 08, 2010, 10:36:56 PM
Donnachaidh tells me that Gripping Beast - following the release of their Vikings back in April at Salute - have some plastic Saxons due out around November time.

I have hunted their site for evidence of this, without success so far, but the wily Scot is rarely wrong.

'ere you go

(http://www.napoleonicassociation.org/GB_Saxons.jpg)

Slainté,
Andy
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GambitGriffin on October 11, 2010, 11:01:45 PM
Just a quick question about artizans minuatures:
What kind of wire do you use for banners and pikes? Do you buy them from artizans or can you use something else?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on October 13, 2010, 08:53:10 PM
I have not used Artizan ones, but I am pretty certain others have and they are good.

I got mine from Warlord Games most recently, but I have had Foundry in the past, and bought odd packs at Salute shows in the past.
Generally steel spears stay straight. Lead or white metal ones will bend if you breathe too hard on them.
Lots of manufacturers offer the steel spears these days and whilst there is some variation in the actual spear tip 'look' they are all pretty reasonable.
I think the average going rate is about 80 for £5.00 and tha usually applies whether you get 40mm, (javelin) 80mm (spear) or 100mm (pike) length ones.
I believe you can just buy 'wire' and then flatten an end and file it to a point. I suppose you could save money by buying 100mm ones already with a point, and cutting off 40 0r 50mm and then making your own points on the second piece and hey presto you have twice as many spears ...............

Part Two

I'd like some opinions from members with knowledge of a couple of manufacturers?

I see a lot of Minifigs models on ebay, but the pics are always rubbish - they look rather plain. I have assumed they are a mass manufactured range probably sold in toyshops?
Anyone care to comment.

Similarly I have made a comment earlier today in the special offers sticky that a lot of Renegade Miniatures figures look to have overlarge disproportionate heads to me?

I have this opinion of a couple of other manufacturers too - Curtleys (Chinese) and Pendraken.
This thread seems to have remained fairly popular - I wonder if we should look at compiling a reference somewhere of 'reviews' of manufacturers.
I know 023 was up to something like a directory.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 15, 2010, 07:58:22 PM
Foundry, Artizan, Perry Miniatures and others make steel pikes, spears and javelins. The only ones I've used were the Artizan pikes and I thought they were pretty good.

I usually make my own out of uncoated steel florist wire. I think 18 gauge (US) is the usual size I use. For pikes, I cut them to about 3x the height of the figure, then flatten and cut the point.

Somewhere I had an illustrated example of how to make pikes that way. I did have a directory started, but I've fallen behind on it. If I get a chance to update it (especially when I paint up some of the TAG and other figures I've recently received) then I will add the pike thing as well.

Here's the link, but as I said, it's very out of date. I've posted newer stuff here (like the stuff in the campaign newsletters) that still needs to be added.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Badwolf on October 15, 2010, 11:40:40 PM
I'd like some opinions from members with knowledge of a couple of manufacturers?

Minifigs have been around for donkey's. They were based in Southampton untill recently and are now owned by Caliver Books. I had a few 15mm figures many years ago which were ok at the time but I've never paid any attention to their 25mm ranges; as far as I know they are 25mm figures as Minifigs were one of the few companies which didn't increase their scale to 28mm.

The only Renegade miniatures I have are WW1 which are mediocre at best. They're not bad value for money, mainly because they're so cheap, but they do have... "overlarge disproportionate heads". If you're after real quality I wouldn't recommend them although their other ranges may be better.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 16, 2010, 05:49:48 AM


The only Minifigs I've seen (painted for a commission years ago) were... "dated" looking. But they may have been older figures, I don't know if they have newer sculpts. But the ones I saw looked like 70s or early 80s sculpts.

I also have Renegade WWI (French) and Celts. They are larger figures. More "heroic" scale like GW. Ridiculous weapons included. Some of the Celts look a bit like "cabbage patch " dolls. Renegade are some of the few historical cavalry that come close to GW sized cavalry.



(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/minis/earlyWWIF01.jpg)


(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/minicomps/rencomp2.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/minicomps/rencomp1.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/minicomps/brbcomp02.jpg)


Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on October 19, 2010, 10:35:18 AM
I bought some Renegade Saxons last week in the Northstar sale.

Warbands of 24 for £12.00 and 40 for £20 supposedly, based on Renegades normal blister size of 8 models.
However the blisters turned up yesterday with 10 models in each ........

So I got 80 men for £32.00 - bargain.
The sculpts are ok too -the heads size does not seem too bad.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on October 19, 2010, 11:48:39 AM
Why would anyone want French World War miniatures?  :engel:

It is like using wood elves in 8th edition.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 19, 2010, 10:27:57 PM
Because they fought well during the war.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on October 20, 2010, 10:51:31 AM
Yes like the Italians  :happy:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Badwolf on October 21, 2010, 12:57:10 AM
I have a WW1 French army, late war (my stuff) has a completely differtent look and feel to early war (023's minis -above). I've built my WW1 french using Brigade Games figures which are really nice; I'd have listed Brigade as an "Other Manufacturer" but they don't do much in the way of earlier periods. Their pirates & swashbucklers line may be usable for some Empire (pirate) armies and also some or their Pilgrims if a witch hunter army is what you're after.

... Sorry Fandir, but french "cheese-eating surender monkey" gags work well if you're talking about WW2 but WW1 was a different matter entirely.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 21, 2010, 02:49:30 AM


Apparently there was an ad for the second set of Perry Wars of the Roses plastic in a recent Wargames Illustrated. Someone at the WAB forum reported that it stated...

Quote
From the advert: ......... contains 40 multi-part figures which can be assembled as pikemen (up to 18), crossbowmen (up to 12) and handgunners (up to 12 models) as well as command. It includes 12 european polearm heads which are designed to customise the arms carrying pikes, also seperate pavises, targes/bucklers and sword arms.



And also a link from the same forum. About 2/3 of the way down the page are 10 pics of Italian Wars games (after the El Cid, but before the Greek stuff.) In terms of other manufacturers, I spotted Foundry, Front Rank, Old Glory and I think a few GW as well, plus some others I'm not to sure of.

http://darrellhindley.co.uk/?m=201010
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on October 21, 2010, 08:49:43 AM
I have a WW1 French army, late war (my stuff) has a completely differtent look and feel to early war (023's minis -above). I've built my WW1 french using Brigade Games figures which are really nice; I'd have listed Brigade as an "Other Manufacturer" but they don't do much in the way of earlier periods. Their pirates & swashbucklers line may be usable for some Empire (pirate) armies and also some or their Pilgrims if a witch hunter army is what you're after.

... Sorry Fandir, but french "cheese-eating surender monkey" gags work well if you're talking about WW2 but WW1 was a different matter entirely.

The free French also fought valiantly in ww2 as did the Italians I just wanted to throw out some bait and see who bites...but too many history geeks on this forum  :happy:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Badwolf on October 21, 2010, 01:05:41 PM
...but too many history geeks on this forum  :happy:

 :eusa_clap:. Excellent. ' Mind if I sig that bit?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on October 21, 2010, 01:12:34 PM
no go ahead  :happy:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on October 22, 2010, 07:20:17 PM
Good thing that, we history geeks ruining Fandirs lame jokes.  :closed-eyes:  And a people who lost their last two wars should be more careful when throwing war jokes around.  :icon_razz:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on October 24, 2010, 05:45:05 PM
I want to mention that I have now ordered 2 boxes of Warlord games Conventanter infantry. The Site selling was raising their prizes on Warlord stuff and I felt it was now or never. Much was on order but they had Convenanters in stock. 2 boxes of Scots in berets for me, thank you! The prize have been roughly 15 Euro for the standard 40 men infantry box for their pike and shoote stuff.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on October 24, 2010, 08:11:05 PM
Well I found these

http://www.victrixlimited.com/news-66-8th-August-Greek-Hoplites-sets (http://www.victrixlimited.com/news-66-8th-August-Greek-Hoplites-sets)

 :happy: so now I try to find a German supplier of these wonderful miniatures.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on October 24, 2010, 10:02:38 PM
Fandir man! Those minis rocks! Makes me want to assemble a hoplite phalanx!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on October 25, 2010, 09:26:06 AM
I think they are pretty cheap too...like the immortal ones with two boxes of these and one box immortal and the stuff I already have and those freeboter bases and finally some means to transport my armies without destroying half of my painting work I guess I will have a nice Lizardmen army.

With three big blocks of 30 Saurus Spear Athenian Elf Hoplites 120 of those suckers with some peltasts around....= sweet.

(I think about using the skinks more as skirmishers 12 inch moving and 12 inchs throwing poisoned spears is not too bad in my book hitting on 5+)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on October 25, 2010, 10:08:26 AM
Certainly not too bad and very cool to boot. Peltast and hoplite combo! Yes!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Moxer on October 25, 2010, 10:58:26 AM
Fandir,  http://www.shop.battlefield-berlin.de/ (http://www.shop.battlefield-berlin.de/) sell Victrix models  (look in the "Historische Miniaturen" section). I bought some other stuff at this place, they offer good service, too.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on October 25, 2010, 11:04:54 AM
I know they are excellent...and they always put candy in the boxes too. But they don´t have the Greeks in the store yet at least they don´t offer them online but I send them an email and asked them if they could get their hands on them.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: warhammerlord_soth on October 25, 2010, 01:23:32 PM
This is hilarious, actually. Fandir practically lives in that shop, Moxer...


 :biggriin: :biggriin: :biggriin: :biggriin: :biggriin: :biggriin:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on October 25, 2010, 11:16:49 PM


Apparently there was an ad for the second set of Perry Wars of the Roses plastic in a recent Wargames Illustrated. Someone at the WAB forum reported that it stated...

Quote
From the advert: ......... contains 40 multi-part figures which can be assembled as pikemen (up to 18), crossbowmen (up to 12) and handgunners (up to 12 models) as well as command. It includes 12 european polearm heads which are designed to customise the arms carrying pikes, also seperate pavises, targes/bucklers and sword arms.


Want.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on October 25, 2010, 11:28:14 PM
I think the original forecast was November ................... early Christmas to go with my Conquest Games knights .........
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on October 31, 2010, 10:41:03 PM
Conquest Games Knight sprues:

(http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad342/Conquest_Games/Norman%20Knights/NormanKnightsComSprue.jpg)

(http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad342/Conquest_Games/Norman%20Knights/NormanKnightsCavSprue.jpg)

and they are selling the horses separately:

(http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad342/Conquest_Games/Norman%20Knights/MedievalHorseSprue.jpg)

They will be at Crisis in Antwerp this Saturday coming - Nov 6th

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: FR1DAY on November 12, 2010, 09:20:00 PM
The long awaited perry mercenary box is due for release in the second week of december and is avaialble for pre order.

Quote
I will post pictures of the new Mercenary 1450-1500 plastic box very shortly, just as soon as I stick a box's worth together. You can pre-order them, but you might want to see pictures first! Their code is WR 20, and the price is £18.00 GBP + P&P. To pre-order, just order as normal and we'll get them out to you as soon as we get them in, which should be around the second week in December. Of course, we won't charge you until the order is about to be sent.

there is also some light cavalry coming out.


This month, there are three codes for the Wars of the Roses in the form of scurrers (or currours/scourers/aforeriders or prickers, take your pick!).

Linky : http://theminiaturespage.com/news/560962/ (http://theminiaturespage.com/news/560962/)

looks like my chaos may get put on hold while my DOW gets bigger.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 14, 2010, 05:22:00 AM
I finally picked up a box of the plastic WoTR figures from Perry Miniatures. They look great. My next decision will be what to do with them. Expand my Burgundian army? Start up a WotR army?

I also picked up the mounted command pack with Warwick, Salisbury & Richard. I wanted to check out the metal figures, and that pack seems to have a lot of character.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: FR1DAY on November 14, 2010, 12:17:30 PM
I've been using mine for a DOW army. I've converted a unit to pikemen already so looking forward to having another unit of pike for a lot less trouble. As they are £18 i'm hoping it will be the basic sprues with an additional weapon sprue. Maybe without the command sprue as they are selling them separately now. This will allow me to use the halberds/bills on the bodies i've saved from the two boxes i've bought as I didn't want more than 24 archers and there is a limited number of halberd arms.

I really like the prickers as well. Will make a good unit of unbarded heavy cavalry. The ones in scouting positions are really characterful. This perry range has made my border princes DOW army really cheap. I've spent less than £80 and got my characters, cannon. 14 halberds, 28 pike 24 men at arms in full plate and polearms, 24 archers, 4 ogres with GW, a cannon and a ribaldaquin.

A unit of 15 heavy cav will cost a bit, £45+ really, but 2 boxes of mercenaries will yield 35 pike, 20 xbows, 16 halberdiers and 10 handgunners; and all that lot will only cost £33 from maelstrom.

I suppose by removing the wizard and ogres I could use them for historical gaming?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 15, 2010, 02:06:17 AM
Sure.

Mix of everything... pike, halberd, crossbow, bow/longbow, handgunners & various cavalry would probably work for Burgundy, various German forces, some Italians all around the second half of the 15th century.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on November 18, 2010, 04:22:16 PM
For those of you debating about the Landsknechts .........

Artizan prices are going up December 1st.

Just as 4 new sets come out.

Halberdiers attacking
Command 2
Looters
Officers

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on November 18, 2010, 05:33:35 PM
How much are their prices increasing?  Any idea when they will release pictures of these new minis?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on November 19, 2010, 06:31:28 PM
How much are their prices increasing?  Any idea when they will release pictures of these new minis?

Prices - no idea - it was a 'tweet'

New models are in next week, and currently they are showing at current pricing levels.

On another note Caliver have this picture up on their site, and a price of £16.00

(http://www.caliverbooks.com/images/covers/mercenaries.jpg)


Quote
   Description:
 "40 Hard Plastic Figures. There is a fair amount of variety of arm/weapon choice, allowing you to make up to 18 pikemen, up to twelve crossbowmen, and up to twelve handgunners plus four command. In addition, there are twelve pavises, 15 bucklers/targes, drum arms, two-handed sword arms, and swords in scabbards."




Still nothing on the actual Perry site though?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on November 19, 2010, 07:39:43 PM
Oh my! You are getting spoiled with choices in Britain!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 19, 2010, 09:40:18 PM
Oh my! You are getting spoiled with choices in Britain!

Caliver's good for outside the UK also. There's a low threshold for qualifying for free worldwide shipping. I ordered from them to the US and was happy -- I recommend them.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: FR1DAY on November 20, 2010, 09:18:39 PM
The sprues are up on TMP now and in the pre order section of maelstrom for £16.20
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 21, 2010, 05:09:52 AM
Looks like Renegade will soon be producing Wars of the Roses figures as well. Small pic of some greens up on their site.

http://www.renegademiniatures.com/
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on November 21, 2010, 08:42:41 PM
Perry Mercenaries Sprues


Command Sprue

(http://theminiaturespage.com/news/pics/2010/nov/713308b.jpg)

Trooper Sprue

(http://theminiaturespage.com/news/pics/2010/nov/713308c.jpg)


You get 2 Command and 3 Trooper Sprues

List of all the bits

Quote
40 x torsos (36 from WR 1)
60 x heads (36 from WR 1)
18 x pikes with arms
18 x left arms for above
12 x crossbows with arms
6 x left arms for above
12 x handguns with arms
3 x left arms for above
12 x crossbow quivers (3 with windlass and 3 with cranequin attached)
15 x targes/bucklers
12 x pavises (2 types)
12 x polearm heads (4 types)
2 x drums and arms
2 x drum stick arms
2 x hand and a half sword arms
2 x left arms for above
12 x swords in scabbards
4 x scabbards
2 x standard pole arms
2 x mace arms
4 x sword arms
2 x dagger arms
2 x command arms


It looks like the bodies on the Trooper sprue are the same as in the first WotR set. There seems to be a bit of this happenning in the plastics market - sprues are made in 'sections' which can be combined differently.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on November 22, 2010, 02:28:36 AM
Yes, that does seem to be the trend.  I for one am not too worried about it - so long as there are enough variants to keep it interesting - looks like there are 12 perry troop body variants, if all those on the sprue are different.

I don't mind either if the bodies fit the bill.  When you look at some of the classic GW metals, many of them seem to re-use the same body sculpt, with different head/arm variants, so it doesn't seem to be that new of an idea.  Just as long as they don't provide fully armoured bodies for light skirmishers, or vice versa...

What's the point in making 40 different body types for rank and file troops when they just get ranked up together anyway, and the main distinction between them is the head and weapons?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 23, 2010, 04:03:31 AM


Pics of someone's painted Normans from Conquest (not mine!):

http://getback-wargamingprojects.blogspot.com/2010/11/conquest-normans-pictures.html



Yes, that does seem to be the trend.  I for one am not too worried about it - so long as there are enough variants to keep it interesting - looks like there are 12 perry troop body variants, if all those on the sprue are different.

I don't mind either if the bodies fit the bill.  When you look at some of the classic GW metals, many of them seem to re-use the same body sculpt, with different head/arm variants, so it doesn't seem to be that new of an idea.  Just as long as they don't provide fully armoured bodies for light skirmishers, or vice versa...

What's the point in making 40 different body types for rank and file troops when they just get ranked up together anyway, and the main distinction between them is the head and weapons?

I generally agree with all of this.

My recent photo in my blog of the Foundry landsknecht handgunners show that they were all done on one body, but with 8 head variants. I think that's just a bit too "samey" though. I prefer when something is more like when Old Glory mixes 4-6 bodies with 6+ heads to create a big batch of variety.

But it also depends on the troop type. For "regular" troops I don't mind a lot of repetition. Whether it's Roman legion, Macedonian phalanx, Seven Years War infantry or whatever. But for "irregular" troops, like ancient Germans, Irish warbands, medieval levies, etc. I prefer a little more variety.

That said, from looking at the one Perry set I got, but haven't had time to assemble, I think it's an excellent balance. Quite a nice set.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 24, 2010, 06:18:13 PM
http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/pages/page.php?Stradiots-Genitors-and-Italian-Lancers-168

Lancers, Stradiots & Genitors for the Italian Wars
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on November 24, 2010, 08:31:40 PM
Upcoming releases from Eureka that show some potential. Italian Wars 'archers' which are the retinue the gendarme was meant to bring with him. Each figure comes with a choice of lance arm or open handed arm with a random hand weapon - hammer, axe, sword.

(http://www.chronofus.net/wargames/eureka/100club/renaissance/iwa1.jpg)

(http://www.chronofus.net/wargames/eureka/100club/renaissance/iwa1b.jpg)

(http://www.chronofus.net/wargames/eureka/100club/renaissance/iwa1c.jpg)

(http://www.chronofus.net/wargames/eureka/100club/renaissance/iwa1d.jpg)

(http://www.chronofus.net/wargames/eureka/100club/renaissance/iwa1i.jpg)

(http://www.chronofus.net/wargames/eureka/100club/renaissance/iwa1l.jpg)

(http://www.chronofus.net/wargames/eureka/100club/renaissance/iwa1k.jpg)

(http://www.chronofus.net/wargames/eureka/100club/renaissance/iwa1j.jpg)

(http://www.chronofus.net/wargames/eureka/100club/renaissance/iwa1e.jpg)

(http://www.chronofus.net/wargames/eureka/100club/renaissance/iwa1f.jpg)

(http://www.chronofus.net/wargames/eureka/100club/renaissance/iwa1g.jpg)

(http://www.chronofus.net/wargames/eureka/100club/renaissance/iwa1h.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on November 27, 2010, 11:56:21 PM
The Artizan new Landsknechts pics are up ........

http://www.artizandesigns.com/list.php?lat=1

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on November 28, 2010, 09:55:39 AM
The looters are nice. Not as nice as the Paul Hicks one with the pig and sausage, but nice all the same.  :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Novogord on November 28, 2010, 02:15:00 PM
Indeed, those looters looks very good and funny. Those would be a nice addition to any army!

And I like those puffy sleeved Eureka knights :closed-eyes:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on December 09, 2010, 08:44:21 PM
http://shop.warlordgames.co.uk/28mm-ancient-greeks-311-c.asp

new from Warlord...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on December 10, 2010, 12:33:45 PM
It seems those greek figures are actually the ones from Immortal Games.  Wondering how that came to be.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on December 10, 2010, 10:22:50 PM
Northstar are selling Immortal now too.

I think smaller manufacturers are finding it difficult to both make and sell miniatures.

For example Musketeer Miniatures have recently arranged for Gripping Beast to sell for them:

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Over the past year Musketeer Miniatures has been growing to a point where it became too much for one man to run on his own. My sculpting time was reduced to almost nil due to coping with the day to day running of the business. Despite how busy it got it wasn't earning enough to employ someone else full time to help me out. Ah! The joys of self employment!

So from today onwards the production, mail order and general running of Musketeer will be taken over by my top chums Darren and Andy and overseen by Lord S from Gripping Beast. All orders will still go through this website for now, but any enquiries or phone orders will be dealt with by Gripping Beast (01386 761 511.)

One of many advantages to this new arrangement is that GB operate from early in the morning to late at night so are much easier to contact. Also they can take credit card orders so call them!

The upshot of this is I will at last be able to sculpt full time once more and get ranges finished that have been hanging round for far too long (we all know what I'm talking about ....!) New exciting ranges are planned for the future as well as some individual projects that we think you might like.

There are some quite good dealers out there who are doing a pretty good job of offering competitive prices and good service, and are well organised with good websites.

Maelstrom and Wayland are probably the bigger two that spring to mind, but personally I find Northstar and Caliver very good, and there is a pretty good one up in Scotland called Wargames + Miniatures which is moving forward.

Northstar aren't the cheapest, and charge postage, but Nick uses Twitter to post regular updates, has a bargain section where he shifts excess stock, and as with Artizan he seems to be some sort of main agent for a range.

There are lots and lots of miniatures outfits and as we know most are pretty small - to market and set yourself up properly I should imagine needs a fair amount of initial capital - if you haven't got the capital, then an arrangement with a good dealer can be mutually beneficial.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 11, 2010, 04:26:54 AM
It seems those greek figures are actually the ones from Immortal Games.  Wondering how that came to be.

Yup:

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Warlord Games are pleased to present Immortal Miniatures' new Classical Greek Hoplite plastic boxed set.

I like the "Special Offer." Buy three £12.00 boxes for only £35.00! How can you pass up that kind of savings!  :wink:



I think smaller manufacturers are finding it difficult to both make and sell miniatures.

Probably. There's a lot of work involved and some of the smaller (and even some of the larger) manufacturers seem to get overwhelmed at times.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on December 11, 2010, 10:03:27 AM
Yeah, Warlords special offers do leave you a touch underwhelmed dont they
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 17, 2010, 05:17:31 AM


I thought this was interesting...

http://theminiaturespage.com/news/249221/

because of the mention of them making kits of metal Swiss & Tudor heads. Could be of use for Empire players. (Beyond the existing potential of the plastics.)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: cjp on December 17, 2010, 05:35:46 AM
Swiss?! Yes! :)

I have foundry swiss halberdiers, and some salets and kettle helms from Mirliton for conversions. I know Artizan is doing Swiss to go with his Landkesnchects, but honestly, who knows when those will be ready.

I have the Artizan halberiders on the way though. With head swaps they'll be my Swiss Papal Guard. ;) I still need a good Pope/Lvl4 Wizard though. ;)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: cjp on December 17, 2010, 05:54:53 AM
In the same vein, anyone know any good suggestions for Free Company stand ins?

Two weapons is not an easy thing to find in historicals, outside samurai. ;)  I was thinking maybe the new WotR mercenaries might be nice bodies and heads, but I'd probably have to use mordheim/freecompanies arms to get any left handed weapons; I reckon the gw plastic sprues are too big, but I just got the first Bills and Bows box, so maybe I should go open that up and check it out. 

I've just re-read the rules (I only have 6th Ed Army book so far, dunno if it has since changed), and I think they could be fun. For somereason when it came out I got it in my head that they were even worse than our beloved 3-across-the-board empire state troop, but on second look I see that they have the same stat line, but just get 2 weapons. For a point less than average?! Helllloooo skaven clan rats!   Anyway, they seem like they're worth having a unit of perhaps, or at least some detachments, but I've never really like the floppy hat / quasi pirate look of the free companies boxes.

So. . . . any suggestions??

My other though is that if I can't come up with a useable number of 2-weapon troops, maybe just go with the fluff - that they count as 2-weapons overall, but in reality they are all mixed. That would free me to use a lot of different grunt-level rennaissance or late medieval style troops. Some swords, some bucklers, some bills, some extra hand weapon.  That sort of variety might be quite fun to model.

We shall see.  :closed-eyes:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on December 17, 2010, 12:57:15 PM
My boxes arrived yesterday ...................

 :closed-eyes:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on December 17, 2010, 01:42:28 PM
In the same vein, anyone know any good suggestions for Free Company stand ins?

Try Warlord Games "Clubmen" or any other company that produces such things. Given the description of Militia, they are a randomly armed rabble and so you can actually use all sorts of figures in there for them.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: cjp on December 17, 2010, 04:31:43 PM
  I was thinking maybe the new WotR mercenaries might be nice bodies and heads, but I'd probably have to use mordheim/freecompanies arms to get any left handed weapons; I reckon the gw plastic sprues are too big, but I just got the first Bills and Bows box, so maybe I should go open that up and check it out. 

I went and checked this out last night, and I was correct. The gw plastics are completely incompatible with the perry WotR plastics. Arms would go past their knees. :)

I'll keep thinking on it. Thanks for the Clubmen suggestion Uryens, if I go with the peasant rabble idea, those might be a great fit. :)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on December 17, 2010, 09:36:53 PM
I have also seriously considered the clubmen to be the best fit for count as Free Company minis.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on December 18, 2010, 09:01:37 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/victorialamb/Inquisition4.jpg)

http://www.victorialamb.com/store.html (http://www.victorialamb.com/store.html)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 18, 2010, 01:44:18 PM
Wow. I didn't expect that!

 :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on December 18, 2010, 02:00:58 PM
Wow. I didn't expect that!

 :engel:

Nobody does .............
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on December 18, 2010, 03:40:34 PM
I like those!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Marek on December 19, 2010, 09:40:02 PM
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http://www.victorialamb.com/store.html

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I like those!

Indeed, and the Imperial Noble looks pretty nice too.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on December 20, 2010, 10:17:51 AM
Indeed, and the Imperial Noble looks pretty nice too.

Oh yes, didn't think to mention him as I've had one for so long now. The little monkey is great too.

(http://www.victorialamb.com/wugs/original%20miniatures/noble1.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on December 20, 2010, 12:05:48 PM
It is a superb figure isnt it.

wish GW would give us more stuff like this.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on December 20, 2010, 09:48:41 PM
Oh! What a nice character fig it would be in a unit!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on December 21, 2010, 05:51:11 PM
GOOD NEWS

Black Tree finally sent my outstanding blister set ...................... from June 3rd Order.


 :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on December 21, 2010, 10:27:59 PM
More Good News:

http://www.grippingbeast.com/shop.php?CatID=24

Their new Saxons are ready - release date 24th Jan.

44 Figures will cost you £20
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on December 22, 2010, 09:27:22 AM
More Good News:

http://www.grippingbeast.com/shop.php?CatID=24

Their new Saxons are ready - release date 24th Jan.

44 Figures will cost you £20

Told ya  :icon_wink:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on January 01, 2011, 03:01:05 PM
Tin's Bits fire wizard.
(http://www.shop.battlefield-berlin.de/img_big/70a3ab26d4d7fbd051a1f0c347f852cc.jpg)

http://www.shop.battlefield-berlin.de/index.php/katalog/showarticles/26460-1-tins_bits.html (http://www.shop.battlefield-berlin.de/index.php/katalog/showarticles/26460-1-tins_bits.html)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on January 01, 2011, 03:07:13 PM
Scibor miniatures warrior priests:
(http://www.shop.battlefield-berlin.de/img_big/d48a8e8ec9645973df33577453011efd.jpg)

(http://www.shop.battlefield-berlin.de/img_big/c2f5d1b02d407f83f7ed3dd127926191.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Marek on January 01, 2011, 10:07:52 PM
This is by far my favourite thread on the forum, I especially love being informed of all the other beatiful figures out there.

I love everything from Scibor miniatures - I really want the dwarf in the bunny suit on a chain as my army mascot!

My plan for 2011 is to increase my scenery collection, specifically stuff with an Empire/Mordheim theme. I have GW/FW/Tabletop World stuff, but was looking at CT-Scenery, Stronghold Terrain, Resina Planet and Grand Manner.

Has anyone got any feedback on these companies? - or indeed any other recommendations?

ps: (long shot) any recommendations for 28mm scale scenery for Mongolia circa 1920?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on January 02, 2011, 12:26:24 PM
You need to jump on a train on April 16th and come up to London for Salute. I know there are lots of other shows around the country, but I doubt any of them have as many exhibitors as Salute.

There are loads of scenery sellers/suppliers as well as all the minis stands.

I tend to look at the traders lists some time beforehand, (and their websites) and the layout map and then mark up the stands I want to see.
In previous years I have tended to go and blitz buy a particular range of minis - last year I had a much more sedate browse and bought several individual blisters/packs from some 14 different suppliers.

Generally when you are looking at things on a website, they are pictured at their best, and it is not until you get the bare mini in your hand that you see exactly how good it is, or how much you like or dislike it.

I have an aversion to some manufacturers as I think the bodies are badly out of proportion ( heads mainly) and I will not buy them - even though some of the webpics look good.
Scenery is the same - until you see it close up, you are not sure if it is strong enough, or good enough for your own levels.

I am also realistic about my ability to recreate the quality level of the supplier pics .................... :engel:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 04, 2011, 05:37:19 PM
More photos of the Perry pike, crossbow & handgun figures, plus new metal Swiss heads. (Or is that Swiss metal heads?)


http://theminiaturespage.com/news/817537/


Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: WallyTWest on January 04, 2011, 06:51:14 PM
These plastics are awesome...  :smile2:

If I was starting all over again I might breeze over the GW miniatures for these, they are wonderful. I had a chance to see them up close a month or so ago and was thinking about converting over.

I love the Tudor and Swiss heads. They look neat!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: FR1DAY on January 05, 2011, 10:53:05 PM
They are great. Have assembled my box and painted the firdt five.
Have ordered another box already. They are great DOW troops
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: cjp on January 10, 2011, 06:22:40 PM


(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_iqjlfB20qpU/TSrLDuybStI/AAAAAAAAADs/Lg2zYKLgmh0/s1600/Recio_final_by_TercioCreativo.JPG)

From Tercio Creativo (http://terciocreativo.blogspot.com/)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on January 11, 2011, 03:04:05 PM
DUST Tactics

http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/DT_AxisEng.jpg (http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/DT_AxisEng.jpg)

Pretty expensive but I think they are nice enough for alternative IG soldiers

http://www.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffg_content/dust-tactics/preview_0/DT001-ALLIES-FORCES-web.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_news.asp%3Feidn%3D1486&usg=__Jva7ykqfogy8f7g_ZlMqBJUZWpw=&h=777&w=1036&sz=68&hl=de&start=19&zoom=1&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=S2QONxu3RIYbYM:&tbnh=112&tbnw=150&prev=/images%3Fq%3DDUST%2BTactics%26um%3D1%26hl%3Dde%26tbs%3Disch:1 (http://www.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffg_content/dust-tactics/preview_0/DT001-ALLIES-FORCES-web.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_news.asp%3Feidn%3D1486&usg=__Jva7ykqfogy8f7g_ZlMqBJUZWpw=&h=777&w=1036&sz=68&hl=de&start=19&zoom=1&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=S2QONxu3RIYbYM:&tbnh=112&tbnw=150&prev=/images%3Fq%3DDUST%2BTactics%26um%3D1%26hl%3Dde%26tbs%3Disch:1)

Perhaps someone has played the game and can comment on the quality of the models.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on January 12, 2011, 02:19:54 PM
Anybody ever dealt with these people, or know anything about them?

http://www.aandaminiatures.co.uk/

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 12, 2011, 02:32:11 PM
I have not, but I know others who have. I've never heard anything bad.

Many (most? all?) of the figures were sculpted by Mark Sims, who has his own company, Crusader, and used to sculpt for Foundry.

I've been eyeing up some of the Macedonians, and when I eventually place an order I'll probably pick up a packs from some of the other lines as well.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on January 12, 2011, 04:52:21 PM
That's interesting.
I think we have discussed Crusader before and I am not a great fan as the heads on some ranges seem overlarge.

However I do have some Crusader El Cid Spanish I picked up as part of an ebay deal and they are ok.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 12, 2011, 07:54:29 PM
That's interesting.
I think we have discussed Crusader before and I am not a great fan as the heads on some ranges seem overlarge.



You sure you're not thinking of Renegade?

(http://www.renegademiniatures.com/celt/images/figures/num01.jpg)

 :engel:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mogsam on January 12, 2011, 07:57:27 PM
I ordered some Perry stuff. They must be very busy cause it's been ageeeeees
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on January 12, 2011, 10:46:07 PM
Crusader stuff looks fine. Nothing wrong with it at all.


I ordered some Perry stuff. They must be very busy cause it's been ageeeeees

They took ages when I ordered some stuff a while ago. When I emailed them they said they'd had a lot of orders.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on January 12, 2011, 11:08:21 PM
Perry is a part time business. They get to it when they finish the day job at GW.

I bought mine from Caliver - £16.00 per box and free postage, and I go them before Christmas ...........

 :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on January 12, 2011, 11:20:22 PM
I was talking about the metal men-at-arms though. I don't have the plastic set.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on January 13, 2011, 09:59:03 PM
Did you see that Artizan have details of new Swiss up?

http://www.artizandesigns.com/prod.php?prod=1838


(http://www.artizandesigns.com/images/img1838.jpg)

Not sure they are as nice as the Landsknechts myself?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on January 13, 2011, 10:34:18 PM
I would agree....a German looks better than a Swiss on any day.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: FR1DAY on January 13, 2011, 11:30:16 PM
I've had no problem with Perry. I ordered the metal men at arms, very nice they are too, and they arrived in a few days.

I have also had a box of the mercenaries from Maelstrom which I got before Xmas. I'm waiting for a second box now as I've painted 24 of the first box already for my empire of Wolves mercenary army. Hailing from the border princes and ready to serve who ever pays the most. The Perry minis make excellent models for it.

Not sure about those Swiss. The Germans look great, I've got a blisters worth. I used TAG halberds to make them into empire halberdiers, old school style ones. I think they might get a Hochland paint scheme as it's one of the few provinces that I don't have any troops from.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Marek on January 14, 2011, 08:44:15 PM
Does anyone know of any historical figures /ranges that could be used as Flagellants/Zealots?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: WallyTWest on January 14, 2011, 09:02:46 PM
Thats a great question... I know of none.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on January 17, 2011, 11:48:33 AM
Hmm, Cathar wargaming, Peasants Crusade...it obscure to say the least  :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on January 17, 2011, 02:15:08 PM
Cathars are really interesting. But as far as I know they had the same stuff as their enemies, the papal crusaders.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Badwolf on January 17, 2011, 05:35:50 PM
Does anyone know of any historical figures /ranges that could be used as Flagellants/Zealots?

I converted some ancient germans and celts which came out ok.

About half way down the page.
http://warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=35361.75 (http://warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=35361.75)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 17, 2011, 06:02:56 PM
Cathars are really interesting. But as far as I know they had the same stuff as their enemies, the papal crusaders.


Indeed. That's even the source of the phrase, "kill them all, God will know his own."

I don't believe there were ever any flegglers/flagellants in combat that I'm aware of. They were a (sort of) religious movement, not a military one.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Marek on January 17, 2011, 06:13:43 PM
Ideally I would like to find some figures that appear to be wearing Capirote (sp?) - I have an old citadel Acolyte from the Shadows over Bogenhafen leading a unit of Flaggies, but would like an entire unit of something similar. Perhaps there is a Pulp range that does 'Clansmen' that I could convert.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 17, 2011, 08:50:56 PM


http://www.oldgloryminiatures.com/proddetail.asp?prod=COS-13

(http://www.oldgloryminiatures.com/prodimages/COS/COS-13.gif)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on January 17, 2011, 09:18:03 PM
I think the KKK imagery may have made it rare - the old 40k redemptionists are close, and then there were Mordheim models.

Not seen anything I can recall in my 'occasional'  :engel: wanderings around the miniatures sites, but there may be something in the modern or steam punk stuff that I do not pay much attention to.
I will try to browse a bit for you though ..............  :closed-eyes: 
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 01, 2011, 07:34:35 PM
Found this latest update on the Conquest Games site.

A command set to follow their basic knights set.

(http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad342/Conquest_Games/Norman%20Knights/MetalNormanCommand.jpg)



http://www.conquest-games.co.uk/

There's also talk of clerics and civilians which I assume is in the pipeline with their planned Norman Infantry set.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 03, 2011, 02:20:45 PM


Yet more Perry goodness!

In addition to metal halberdiers & pikemen, they've released several packs of separate halberds and pavises. And Swiss heads for use with the plastic kits. Very good stuff once again

http://theminiaturespage.com/news/453620/

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: von Bildhofen on March 08, 2011, 04:21:26 PM
Thanks to one of you mentioning Kingmaker miniatures i "accidently" bought an elephant. But i dont hold it agains you!  :-)

http://www.1stcorps.co.uk/online_shop/product_info.php?cPath=212_230&products_id=2644&osCsid=5bf2de9aebcd64ad222dbff77de6615a
(http://www.1stcorps.co.uk/online_shop/images/EL,%20K.jpg?osCsid=5bf2de9aebcd64ad222dbff77de6615a)


ahh.. the waiting...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on March 08, 2011, 04:25:36 PM
And now he finally has stomp attacks to match his posture.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: FR1DAY on March 08, 2011, 06:08:17 PM
thunderstomp even!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 08, 2011, 10:13:48 PM
I originally posted this in the B&P, but I suspect the 'collectors' amongst us are more attuned to the CT.

Here we are - a fine puzzle to test our addicts.

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqYOKjIE0eGNUfzRBN,om1jUzg~~_12.JPG)

I won these on ebay and cannot find the manufacturer.

I already have similar models from Artizan, Grippping Beast, Perry, Magister Militum, Black Tree & Crusader. I've checked several others in my manufacturers list and canot seem to find them.

They are Moorish/Andalusian

The Infantry are in chainmail and there is a pair of each of 6 models.
The archers again are a set of 6 different figures, and the command figures are a 6 too - 2 champs, 2 Standards and 2 trumpeters.

They're pretty nice sculpts and I got the lot for £6.25 including postage from an ebayer up in Douchie-land  :engel:

No cookies, but my mace will be forever grateful .................
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 09, 2011, 09:52:31 PM
Has anyone heard anything about Gamezone lately?

I see Artemis Balck is not advertising them for Salute.

Gateshead Gaming used to stock them - now no mention I can see.

Their website has been 'under reconstruction' for months.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Immovable Object on March 09, 2011, 10:00:18 PM
???????

http://www.gamezoneminiatures.de/index.php/language/en/XTCsid/fb2638db7ba680ee4c57fc24ea46771a (http://www.gamezoneminiatures.de/index.php/language/en/XTCsid/fb2638db7ba680ee4c57fc24ea46771a)

Artemis bloody Blacks never answer their bloody phone anyway. Bloody buggers.


Bloody.




Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on March 10, 2011, 08:27:24 AM
Well finally there is a miniature with my name.....

http://www.tabletopshoponline.de/ammon-miniatures-fraaanz.html (http://www.tabletopshoponline.de/ammon-miniatures-fraaanz.html)

Well....I am kind of underwhelmed.  :unsure:

But at least I found Rufus too:

http://www.smartmaxstore.com/doctor-zeels.htm (http://www.smartmaxstore.com/doctor-zeels.htm)

But their line is kind of cool.....this would be the most perfect Banshee of all time

http://www.smartmaxstore.com/mrs-dudley-en.htm (http://www.smartmaxstore.com/mrs-dudley-en.htm)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on March 10, 2011, 10:57:19 AM
But at least I found Rufus too:

http://www.smartmaxstore.com/doctor-zeels.htm (http://www.smartmaxstore.com/doctor-zeels.htm)


That is so awesome!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 10, 2011, 03:15:01 PM
While that, and many of the other "diorama" style figures look great, they seem like they've be a bit odd to use in games. That would look cool as part of a larger display, though!

And I went to the Smog1888 web page to take a look but lost patience waiting for multiple Flash pages to load. One of my pet peeves is when I spend more time waiting for the web page than I spend looking at what I went there for in the first place. After the second waiting period, I just closed the page and gave up trying to look at actual figures. Would have lost patience even quicker if I was on my phone.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on March 10, 2011, 03:27:06 PM
I think many of the models would look great as unit filler in a demon army.

Our demon player used quiet a lot of Cuthulu monsters as unit filler in his horrors looked great.

I think Helldorado miniatures could work for this too.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on March 10, 2011, 03:55:45 PM
I would look a bit weird to have a floating squid-portal moving about the table.

And I never buy miniatures that I couldn't conceivably use in a game. I can only buy things I think will be useful.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on March 10, 2011, 03:59:25 PM
Like that strange squid toilet god?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 11, 2011, 06:40:25 PM

I think we linked to this guy before when he did a review of the plastic vikings from Gripping Beast and Wargames Factory.
This is a new review of the Conquest Norman Knights:

http://www.hourofwolves.org/?view=articles&which=normansInPlastic


Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 15, 2011, 01:54:49 AM


Just got a few figures that I had a friend pick up at Cold Wars (I couldn't go this year.) I finally got the Perry mercenary plastic set. Very cool!

Also got a few unrelated items -- Molon Labe (formerly Vendel) ancients. They're big fellas! I got a couple packs to round out my Macedonians/Successors, but I probably should have got a pack of Elizabethans too, just to see how they compare to GW etc. The ancients are larger than all my other ancients for the army, including Crusader. They approach Renegade in bulkiness, which means they may be a good addition to Empire/DoW armies. I'll try to take a comparison photo soon.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 15, 2011, 05:49:15 PM
I have oodles of the Vendel ones - you are correct they are more 28mm than 25mm, but I quite like some size variation.
It is much truer to life that there would be 6' guys alongside 5'6" shorter troopers .........

Sort of like having Fandir and Aldaris standing in the ranks .........  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 15, 2011, 11:24:25 PM
I like a bit of size variation too, as long as they look scaled similar. But as it turns out the Molon Labe figures are not only taller, but the arms seem twice as thick, much larger head, etc. as the 1st Corps figures they need to mix with.

Thought I'd take a pic showing the hypaspists from Molon Labe and 1st Corps, and pike regulars from Crusader and Foundry.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/minicomps/macinfcomp01.jpg)

These will be the core of the army. I've got some assorted support infantry, but haven't really got any cavalry yet.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 16, 2011, 10:28:14 AM
I meant I have loads of the Elizabethans - not the ancients - sorry.
That's the second time in a couple of days I haven't read something properly - senior moments are on the rise.  :engel:

However a taller person can be stockier. Your pic looks like me on the left, then ALdaris, Fr1day and finally skinny-boy  :icon_wink: Finlay on the right.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on March 16, 2011, 10:36:31 AM
So Aldaris attempted to take away your weapons and ended up as the first corpse?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 18, 2011, 09:51:20 AM
First Corps have a nice armoured elephant I have on my list to check out at Salute.

Wargames Factory shop is back up and running.
Amazons are in, and the Persians are due to be added next week so they say.


Not sure how the UK will be served?
WF yapped on Facebook about how Northstar were their UK distributor and an order was on its way, yet when I emailed to Nick he hadn't heard a word from them!
I suspect they were 'fulfilling' an order from before the bust up - so not sure what will happen with any new stuff.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 21, 2011, 05:20:41 AM


http://www.renegademiniatures.com/wotr.htm

Renegade has released some cavalry for their WotR range. I have not seen these figures in person, but I've got some of their Gallic cavalry and they are some of the only figures that come close to GW's cavalry in size. They tower over some of the other historical figures.

Here's a couple old photos I posted in the B&P showing the big horsey figures:

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/minicomps/rencomp1.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/minicomps/rencomp2.jpg


If anyone gets a chance to see these new WotR cavalry (or the rest of the line)  in person, I'm curious how they scale up to GW, Perry, etc.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 21, 2011, 03:57:02 PM
I think Nortstar carry Renegade.

I know Dave Thomas ( a 'shows only' guy), and Gripping Beast who have a large stand this year are carrying a lot of Artizan stuff for Northstar.
Northstar posted something on Twitter about Dave carrying "All their Ranges" at another show recently.

I'll ask.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: cjp on March 21, 2011, 08:45:13 PM
Ideally I would like to find some figures that appear to be wearing Capirote (sp?) - I have an old citadel Acolyte from the Shadows over Bogenhafen leading a unit of Flaggies, but would like an entire unit of something similar. Perhaps there is a Pulp range that does 'Clansmen' that I could convert.

Stuff you could convert- some would need a lot of work for weapons, but there are plenty of robed poses to go around. You could easily add the extrme pointy hat to any and all if you wanted. :)

Pulp Figures:

(http://www.pulpfigures.com/catalog/pwm4.jpg)

(http://www.pulpfigures.com/catalog/pwm5.jpg)

(http://www.pulpfigures.com/catalog/pwm7.jpg)

Artizan:

(http://artizandesigns.com/images/PLP555.jpg)

(http://artizandesigns.com/images/img1615.jpg)

Reaper:

(http://www.reapermini.com/graphics/gallery/4/06175_G.jpg)

(http://www.reapermini.com/graphics/gallery/4/03312_w_1.jpg)

Strange Aeons:

(http://www.strange-aeons.ca/img/mini/SA-003.jpg)

(http://www.strange-aeons.ca/img/mini/SA-017.jpg)

Black Cat:

(http://blackcatbases.com/bmz_cache/a/a10649f71d5fbc92a9614e1e28fd616f.image.457x550.jpg)

(http://blackcatbases.com/bmz_cache/0/04fe22fd4f38829e809cea191ab5dcc3.image.479x550.JPG)

Brigade:

(http://www.brigadegames.com/images/BGGL/BG-ADVH90_lg.jpg)

Golgo Island:

(http://shop.eastridingminiatures.co.uk/ekmps/shops/ermp20/images/gg14-1570-p.jpg)

SuperFigs:

(http://www.fourcolorfigs.com/images/catalog/zb15-400.jpg)


West Wind:

(http://www.oldgloryminiatures.com/prodimages/GH/GH-21.jpg)

(http://www.oldgloryminiatures.com/prodimages/GH/GH-22.jpg)

(http://www.oldgloryminiatures.com/prodimages/GH/GH-24.jpg)

(http://www.oldgloryminiatures.com/prodimages/GH/GH-25.jpg)

Eureka:

(http://eurekamin.com.au/images/100CUL03.jpg)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: jimbibbly on March 21, 2011, 09:33:41 PM
Midaski, those figures you posted up near the top might be Newline Designs, I have some of their Han Chinese in a box somewhere and the sculpting style looks similar  :smile2:

cheers

James
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 21, 2011, 10:00:58 PM
The shields are moulded on on the ones I have, whereas Newline look like they provide them separately.
Their 28mm periods don't fit either.

Apart from the fact I have the full set already I would have guessed Black Tree or Gripping Beast - they are very close in style and size. All I can assume is they are older OOP models from those suppliers.
GB are at Salute too  - I might slip a couple of mine in my pocket and ask if they recognise them?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: jimbibbly on March 21, 2011, 10:27:45 PM
I'll give Soapy a shout and see what he says  :smile2:

cheers

James
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on March 24, 2011, 06:08:53 PM
Slightly related: I just read that Renedra now has a set of gravestones.

http://renedra.co.uk/webstore.html#
(scroll down a bit)

I like it.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 24, 2011, 06:24:26 PM
I can pick some up for you at Salute, and give them to you at the Eurobash if you like ............  :closed-eyes:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on March 24, 2011, 06:28:13 PM
I would like to have it protocolled that a certain moderator threatened to hand me my gravestone should I dare to come to the Eurobash.




(Thanks a lot! But I'll try Maelstrom, since I have moneyback to spend there anyway.)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 26, 2011, 11:41:02 PM
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqYOKjIE0eGNUfzRBN,om1jUzg~~_12.JPG)


I think I have discovered what they are.       Perrys

They do some Armenians in the Crusades range, and I had only looked at the Crusades - Muslim Armies

I cannot be 100% as I definitely have:

CU31 Armenian Archers

(http://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/cu31.jpg)


and I suspect I have:

 CU30 - Armenian Infantry Command
and
2 of CU32 - Armenian Armoured Militia Spearmen Defending

......... but unfortunately they don't have pics on their website.

I would like to say how much I appreciate everyone's help with this and it is so pleasing to have finally been able to identify these nice minis ..........  :engel:

Now I just need to do some historical digging to find why these Armenians are listed with the crusaders rather than the arab forces, and I do notice that all these figures tend to have manly beards ...............
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on March 27, 2011, 08:58:22 AM
The Armenians involved are those of the Armenian kingdom in Asia Minor, those armenians the turks get so upset about when you mention them cause they tried their best to genocide them.

They were the Armenian kingdom of Cilicia and were allied with the crusaders.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_Armenia
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 27, 2011, 09:42:43 AM
Thanks Mathi

I knew it would be you ...............   :engel:

I found a mention of Armenians in "Byzantium - Beyond the Golden Gate" in the description of the formation and use of Ghulams as a sort of standing army.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on March 28, 2011, 11:35:14 AM
I actually have those Armenian archers!

But your picture was rubbish, so I didn't recognise them.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on March 28, 2011, 12:11:56 PM
Felix strikes again. And this time with a whole unit!

http://www.avatars-of-war.com/eng/web/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=66&Itemid=63

Hey Fandir, that's a better present for your wife than a bunch of flowers which you have to throw away after a couple of days. Just saying. :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 28, 2011, 02:53:39 PM


Although I don't deny Felix's sculpting skills, I just don't care for the style of any of the AoW figures. They have all of the characteristics of my least favorite GW figures: over the top "heroic" proportions & equipment and cluttered with details. Looking at the photo of the unit, I can barely see the dwarfs behind all the axes, hair, etc.

I am probably in the minority, as most WFB players seem to worship AoW like they are the pinnacle of fantasy miniatures. But I've never really cared for most of their figures.  ::heretic::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on March 28, 2011, 03:17:00 PM
Felix strikes again. And this time with a whole unit!

http://www.avatars-of-war.com/eng/web/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=66&Itemid=63

Hey Fandir, that's a better present for your wife than a bunch of flowers which you have to throw away after a couple of days. Just saying. :icon_cool:

Wow, this guy is getting better and better. I'm definetely ordering this dwarven unit, and his witchhunter and the new marauder........and....a lot of his stuff really.

We can all feel very lucky he isn't working for GW, in this way we can buy his unique minis for a reasonable price. AoW is one of the best mini companies at this moment really. And the company is located in EU, which is good for the shipping cost.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 28, 2011, 03:30:49 PM
Yes I agree with 023 - can sculpt, but too 'heroic'

I actually got interested when I saw the box artwork at the top, and then scrolled down and the regiment picture just looks horrendous - ranking a unit up will need a degree in maths and engineering.  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on March 28, 2011, 04:15:50 PM
Slayers should be skirmishers
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 28, 2011, 08:54:54 PM
Slayers should be skirmishers

They should be like fanatics but more reliable... wade into a unit/monster, cause a whole lot of casualties before dying their own glorious death.  :wink:


We can all feel very lucky he isn't working for GW, in this way we can buy his unique minis for a reasonable price.

 :?

They are selling their infantry hero figures for $13-$20 each. $35 for a mounted hero. (At least that's prices here in the US.) That's at least as much, if not more than, the equivalent GW figures.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on March 29, 2011, 10:52:57 AM
Although I don't deny Felix's sculpting skills, I just don't care for the style of any of the AoW figures. They have all of the characteristics of my least favorite GW figures: over the top "heroic" proportions & equipment and cluttered with details. Looking at the photo of the unit, I can barely see the dwarfs behind all the axes, hair, etc.

I am probably in the minority, as most WFB players seem to worship AoW like they are the pinnacle of fantasy miniatures. But I've never really cared for most of their figures. 

I guess you could say that Felix is the pinnacle of GW style, even though he doesn't work for GW...

I see what you mean, and there's definitely some truth in it. I still like most of what he does though.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on March 29, 2011, 10:57:55 AM
I agree with zero23. I don't like the avatar of war stuff.


Still, didn't that guy make this dwarf lord for GW?

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440054a&prodId=prod780848

Awesomely understated.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Immovable Object on March 29, 2011, 11:00:49 AM
I like the AOW miniatures as well. Some of them are overblown and a bit daft but I love the fat Goblin, the Ogre, the Barbarian and the Witch Hunter. The AOW models are certainly no more silly than the GW range.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 29, 2011, 01:05:23 PM
I'm not saying that no one else can't like the AoW figures. They're just no my preferred style.


I guess you could say that Felix is the pinnacle of GW style, even though he doesn't work for GW...

Maybe. Or at least pinnacle of the current GW style.

I liked it when the Perry brothers and Jes Goodwin were the pinnacle of GW style. I think their work is a large part of the reason I still play Empire and Skaven. (The same could probably be said of Kev Adams, back when I had an all-gobbo army, too.)


The AOW models are certainly no more silly than the GW range.

Yes, well some of us think many of the figures in the GW range have got a bit silly too.  :wink:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: orcyboy on March 29, 2011, 02:13:47 PM
Maybe. Or at least pinnacle of the current GW style.

I liked it when the Perry brothers and Jes Goodwin were the pinnacle of GW style. I think their work is a large part of the reason I still play Empire and Skaven. (The same could probably be said of Kev Adams, back when I had an all-gobbo army, too.)

I wholeheartedly agree.  Though the odd thing about Kev Adams Gobbos and Orcs, his sculpts actually get a little worse into the early 90's and beyond.  They went from the being wildly varied to a sort of plain fat headed look, especially his Orcs.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 29, 2011, 03:26:38 PM
I agree with that. They started to look really stiffly posed, too. I like his older stuff better than many of the figures he's done more recently, too. He had so much life & character in those old sculpts.

Didn't he do the Foundry orcs/gobbos? The big mercenary orcs (are they calling them ogres now?) were great, but some of the other stuff was a bit bland. Again, similar stiff poses, etc. on those other (also later) figures.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: orcyboy on March 29, 2011, 03:44:09 PM
Yeah he did the Foundry stuff.   

Back in the day I blamed the change on GW trying to standardize Orcs into a uniform look (which I didn't like).  I had actually assumed at the time it was a different sculptor. It appears it may have been just as much to do with Kev Adams refining his sculpts into a uniform look leading to his "smiley guys" phase according to his fansite blog. unfortunately he seems to have have stuck with his "smiley guys" look which is unfortunate IMO.

http://kevadamschallenge.blogspot.com/search/label/Warhammer
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on March 30, 2011, 05:41:41 PM
I rather like these:

http://www.lead-adventure.com/product_info.php?cPath=22&products_id=64
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 30, 2011, 08:39:54 PM
Nice
- and I see Pirates on the horizon .......


In the meantime Fandir has found a present for his beloved .......

(http://www.lead-adventure.com/images/seite_release.jpg)

 :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on March 30, 2011, 08:49:56 PM
I have spotted them too. Sadly, Kulturkommisariatet, the swedish netstore that have brought in some have only taken post-apocalypse and victorian style ones. But those post-apocalypse makes for some nice additions to my Sisters of Battles witch hunter friends.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 31, 2011, 02:53:07 PM
I rather like these:

http://www.lead-adventure.com/product_info.php?cPath=22&products_id=64


Me too. I was wondering if/when they would be released.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Wolfsgaum on April 15, 2011, 12:40:18 AM
I rather like these:

http://www.lead-adventure.com/product_info.php?cPath=22&products_id=64

Absolutely. Check out these preview threads for some more Empire flavoured goodness;
http://www.lead-adventure.de/index.php?topic=27893.0

http://www.lead-adventure.de/index.php?topic=26816.0

http://www.lead-adventure.de/index.php?topic=26910.0
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on April 15, 2011, 02:21:30 AM
The AoW dwarfs aren't to my liking, and the art work looks much different than the sculpts.

However, the one Rufus shows on the GW site, that's one cool looking dwarf!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on April 15, 2011, 07:29:26 AM
I have a few of the AoW dwarves and they are superb sculpts, and a joy to paint.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on April 15, 2011, 12:54:05 PM
I probably need to be more open minded and look around their site, not just basing my first view of their berserker dwarfs as my overall view.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on April 15, 2011, 01:21:05 PM
I also have their vampire woman figure and that's excellent too, I will be getting the warrior priest as well.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on April 15, 2011, 05:24:03 PM
The AoW orcs range is pretty darn awesome IMO.  I have the savage orc and the goblin, but have not yet painted them up.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Silver Wolf on April 15, 2011, 06:48:18 PM
Are there any cheap replacements for the greatsword box?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on April 15, 2011, 07:17:53 PM
Gamezone, the only one really :wink:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: FR1DAY on April 15, 2011, 08:53:28 PM
Artizan do some as well
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on April 15, 2011, 10:41:39 PM
The Artizan ones are very nice.  If cheap is the first priority, I suggest the old glory ones:

http://www.oldgloryminiatures.com/proddetail.asp?prod=PIL-04

023 has some painted examples up here somewhere...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on April 16, 2011, 05:50:11 AM
The Artizan ones are very nice.  If cheap is the first priority, I suggest the old glory ones:

http://www.oldgloryminiatures.com/proddetail.asp?prod=PIL-04

023 has some painted examples up here somewhere...

"25mm scale - 30 Figures - 4 Sword Poses with Head Variants"

...aren't they too small?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on April 16, 2011, 08:21:24 AM
No, I have some of their pikes, they are the same size as the GW stuff, again 023 has comparison pics
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Silver Wolf on April 16, 2011, 05:32:19 PM
Old Glory seems to be exactly what I'm looking for ... But I couldn't find any comparison pictures which include greatswords...
And there's another problem... They're not shipping to Croatia.

Thanks anyway guys !  :icon_smile:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: FR1DAY on April 17, 2011, 08:21:08 PM
Perry are doing mounted men at arms in plastic, sweet!

http://theminiaturespage.com/news/622364/

boxes of 12, no release date though
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Blue in vt on April 17, 2011, 08:50:42 PM
 :::cheers::: Perry's for the WIN!!!

those look great.

Blue
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on April 17, 2011, 09:17:40 PM
Wow.  Perry is moving full speed ahead with there 28mm plastics.  Very exciting. :icon_biggrin:

They are even doing Austrian, Russian, and Prussian infantry! Cacoo! :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on April 18, 2011, 07:19:52 AM
We no longer need new Knights it seems....awesome and also nice kits for light cavalry.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on April 18, 2011, 11:33:23 AM
I thought I had a decent look at the Perry stand at Salute, but I only saw the Plastic Napoleonic PrussianInfantry 1813-15 they have been promoting on their website.
However Donnachaidh emailed this morning asking about them too - so maybe I missed the greens.

Based on the timescales for the two previous plastic sets, I guess it will be towards September / October though.

I did buy some of the metal armoured infantry with the halberds though .......... along with a lot of other stuff ......... far too much other stuff .........  :engel:



 
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on April 18, 2011, 11:39:23 AM
Midaski ... did you ever provide pictures or an update form Salute around here?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on April 18, 2011, 01:35:38 PM
Midaski ... did you ever provide pictures or an update form Salute around here?

No    :engel:





I forgot the camera ........... well I didn't really think about it to be honest. I get the shakes quite a lot, and need a tripod to take pics.

I went with specific targets in mind, that were all old news really.

I had pre-ordered the new rules - Clash of Empires and Hail Caesar which were both released on the day, but have been discussed in the Hail Caesar thread.

Mini -wise it was Perry WotR, some WF Persians and Amazons, Artizan Arthurians, some Crusader ancient Spanish, some bargain Foundry late Romans, the Conquest games metal Norman command and Monks & Nuns sets plus some spare horse sprues, and various odd bits and bobs.



I tried to get to meet jimbibbly but he was besieged all day  :icon_lol:, but his scenery is even better close up.

I waved at Donnachaidh in the queue .........

I did meet up with JustNorth and exchanged banter and barbs. 







Oh and found 2 boxes of Ed.6 Soldiers of the Empire still 'MINT' in the cellophane ........................
 



.......... and I won't tell you what I paid as you will cry ............


Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on April 18, 2011, 02:31:56 PM
 :icon_lol: Looks like me asking over on the miniholic thread might have been better. :icon_wink:

Maybe I'll copy and paste over there, instead of carrying on the conversation I started here. :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on April 18, 2011, 03:26:41 PM
But seriously ...

1.  How were the WF Persians?  I got a small sprue of a couple infantry when I ordered from one of their sales, back before the big breakdown over there.  They looked appealing, and although I'm debating whether or not I want to order after all the hub bub because I'm not thrilled with how things happened and wondering if WF under current ownership will do something of a quality follow up to their infantry, and wondering how the over all box of Persians came out.

2.  I really like the attacking poses of the Artizan Arthurians.

3.  The crusader ancient Spanish are interesting, but they seem to lack a bit of dynamicness some how.  Think I saw some at Historicon last year, and maybe I'll have a look again this year, but the pictures on their website just don't do it for me.  Also, they make a difference between light and heavy cav by putting small plates of armor on the heavy's chest and that seems to be it, and I'm wondering if this is really how it was with those?  However, I like their newer El Cid series!  Those look really good.

4.  Regarding Conquest Games ... do they only have the norman knights on horseback (and the nuns & monks)?  Maybe I'm missing something on their website.  The knight sprue pictures seem to look good though, and I like the variant heads, but it seems they could have fit a few more on the sprue, too.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on April 18, 2011, 06:02:58 PM
1. I have had a cursory look - they ended up on a different multi sprue set up to what was posted on the website, and I think linked earlier in this thread.
The small sprues thing is weird - several sprues for just a few weapons, and different sorts of shields. Some of the weapons appear in both the Infantry and Cavalry boxes.
I also got a box of the Amazons and again some of the same sprues are in there - the female limbs look very spindly.

They look ok, but I think it will need some experimenting when I get round to building them - which will not be happening until after the Eurobash.

2. I just like all Artizan stuff. The Arthuians have sort of crept up on me as I picked up some Black Tree at half price, and I have a lot of Saxons and Vikings, so I was looking at some combatative armies from Late / Romano British and early Dark Ages.

3. Again Northstar did a half price Crusader Spanish Army deal, and so I bought them  :engel: mainly because I had seen 'allied spanish units' in Fall of the West etc., and didn't really understand what some of the terms like Caetrati and Scutari meant ....... I have been educating myself a bit since. 

4. Conquest are new - I met Mike at the show, youngish guy who is doing it as a part time enthusiast - he has plans and ideas for more units, but it takes time and getting the capital for Renedra to make a sprue is not easy.


I think the way WF churned out units was the exception - if you look at Gripping Beast, they have done two, Vikings and Saxons, in over a year, and the Perrys probably manage only 2 or 3 a year, and indeed Warlord Games who are probably the most prolific UK outfit have been going a while now, and several of their supposedly 'different' box sets use the same base sprue.
Mantic may be a bit more regular, but I haven't been paying them much attention to be honest.

I think it is around £50,000 to develop a standard unit size sprue, which means if you are selling a box set at £15 - £20 each then you have to sell around 2500 to 3350 sets just to break even.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on April 18, 2011, 07:34:26 PM
Regarding the Persians ... they don't currently have them up for sale on the WF website, and some how I didn't know they had done both infantry and cavalry.  Maybe I'll get lucky and find them being sold at a retailer or convention.

Regarding the Dark Ages period, is there a preferred rules set that you use?  I've got one called Pig Wars that I'm currently reading in time for a convention's large game event.

And guess I need to do some reading on the ancient and dark ages Spanish forces, too.

Yep, lots of places using Renedra, and my understanding is Defiance Games (the new company started by the original WF owners and founders) will also being using something different, and apparently based out of the U.S.A.  My understanding is its a cheaper process than Renedra.

Also, DG is apparently already on the move with multiple sprues being worked on again.  They seem to be doing a sci-fi set first, since the WF shock troops seemed so successful, before doing some more historicals.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Marek on April 18, 2011, 07:38:01 PM
Midaski,

Did you see any interesting scenery/suitably Empire-ish buildings at Salute?

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on April 18, 2011, 08:11:04 PM
Midaski,

Did you see any interesting scenery/suitably Empire-ish buildings at Salute?

I wasn't looking too hard to be honest.  I have a mental block with resin buildings as I think they are very pricey.
I also have a load of Hirst Arts moulds and have cast loads of,  :engel: well several,  bricks ready to build something with sometime ...........

The one stand I did look at was www.totalbattleminiatures.com - they had some 28mm dark age and black powder era bits.

The other person of course is jimbibbly one of our newer members on here - he mainly does Japanese buildings, but he had some of his other commission pieces on show, and they looked pretty sharp.

   
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on April 18, 2011, 09:02:59 PM
The one stand I did look at was www.totalbattleminiatures.com - they had some 28mm dark age and black powder era bits.

Those look nice, thanks for the link.

A bit pricey though. The work of a particular member here is not much more expensive, and seems to be much better.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 18, 2011, 11:25:36 PM

The Empire finally get new knights! Thanks Michael & Alan!  :wink:

I've also been dying to see someone do a plastic AWI range. I've been contemplating going with 15mm, which is more practical anyway, but maybe I will consider the big guys after a few of their plastic sets come out.

Also, less related, Warlord is doing plastic Macedonian pikemen. They come armed with electrical poles, however. You will have to snip those off and replace them with your own in-scale pikes. Unless you want your MacEdonians looking like they're competing in a caber toss.  :engel:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on April 19, 2011, 12:30:46 AM
Yes!  AWI 28mm plastics!  How could I forget?  I saw them, but got lost in all those Napoleonics.

- - -

By the way, the mounted men-at-arms for 1450-1500 look great, although they don't appear to have barding.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on April 19, 2011, 10:06:50 AM
By the way, the mounted men-at-arms for 1450-1500 look great, although they don't appear to have barding.

I have a feeling that I read in the accompanying blurb, that barding is part of the kit - you can add it if you wish.



.......... and that ba***rd at Northstar has a special offer on Carolingans .......... must resist

http://www.artizandesigns.com/prod.php?prod=1820

..... must resist ...... ..... must resist ...... ..... must resist ......  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on April 19, 2011, 10:21:36 AM
Will his will fu prevail...or will he yet again succumb to the pure awesomeness.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on April 19, 2011, 10:24:52 AM

 I just like all Artizan stuff.


Hoisted by my own petard ............. what do you think is going to happen ..................  :engel:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on April 19, 2011, 10:30:45 AM
An affair...yet again...one that will give you lots of pleasure though.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on April 19, 2011, 10:45:22 AM
That looks like a sweet deal! :icon_biggrin:

Course then, if you don't have some already, you'll need some Moors to fight against them on the table top ...

http://www.artizandesigns.com/prod.php?prod=1823

 :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on April 19, 2011, 10:50:22 AM
Course then, if you don't have some already, you'll need some Moors to fight against them on the table top ...

 :engel:

Pay attention.  :icon_rolleyes:

I have around 150+ infantry and 68 Cavalry and that doesn't include the Black Tree, GB, Perry, and various misc minis .............  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on April 19, 2011, 02:54:28 PM
Well ... then I guess purchasing the deal on Carolingens is a must. :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on April 19, 2011, 06:00:40 PM
Feast your eyes on these!  :biggriin:

Pre-View: Renaissance Civilians

Hello all together,

I got the new greens (or greys?) from Paul Hicks on the 16th of April at Salute. And I am sure you will agree that he has done a wonderful job on them! It was my highlight of Salute to get the new civilians in my hand.

The miniatures will be send to Griffin moulds tomorrow and I will get a huge stock from them.
I have taken some pictures with the miniature including the final codes and blister names. Each blister will cost 5,95€ (around £5,20 or 8,50$). Command sets, civilians and other small-needed-amount miniatures will be a bit more expensive. For core infantry I will try to keep the price as low as possible.

Once I get the message from Griffin that the moulds and castings are finish you can pre-order these lovely miniatures.

But now up to the pictures.

LC 01 - Beyond Good & Evil: This is a set including a priest with a wine cup, cross and long coat, a strupet pulling up her cloth, an horroractor with his beastmask on and a beggar. This set represents - as the title says - the down and ups of the renaissance.

(http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm146/Regulator0/LC01-BGE.png)

LC 02 - Countryside: This set includes a hunter with his lovely huntingdog (hound from eBob), a lumberjack marching out to cut some wood and a peasant with his typical sword and a basket full of goods.

(http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm146/Regulator0/LC02-CS.png)

LC 03 - Citylife I: This blisters includes a Landsknecht guard sleeping on duty, a harold with important news, a smith with the newest armour he has done and a woman with a broom, sweeping away the dust in the yard.

(http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm146/Regulator0/LC03-CL1.png)

LC 04 - Citylife II: This set includes one woman with a pot in her hand, a young girl with a newborn, a shoetrader with his stuff on a stick and an unarmoured Landsknecht thinking about if he should spend his money on new shoes.

(http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm146/Regulator0/LC04-CL2.png)


http://progloriaminiatures.blogspot.com/
Stephan
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Marek on April 19, 2011, 07:13:55 PM
Sweet!

I love Mr Hicks' work (impatiently waiting for him to return from holiday so I can get my mits on his latest batch of VBCW figures). I really like his odd droopy mouths his figs always have.

I wonder how these will stack up next to the Brugelburg range from LAF. If they match the previous Pro-Gloria figs they will be a tad smaller, but still going to have to order the citylife packs.

Now when can we order WK's dwarves....

PS regarding the Brugelburg figures linked by Shadowlord (page 21). Ordered them and they are excellent, (but warning: I wouldn't bother ordering the sign post pack, its a bit of a waste of money).
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Siberius on April 20, 2011, 12:20:18 AM
I'm thinking the shoe-seller is a must have for all Empire players with new statetroops.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on April 20, 2011, 11:43:41 AM
Now when can we order WK's dwarves....

First set of 4 (spears and halberds): very soon.
The rest is scheduled to follow in the coming months.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on April 21, 2011, 12:15:37 PM
Perry are doing mounted men at arms in plastic, sweet!

http://theminiaturespage.com/news/622364/

boxes of 12, no release date though


Amazing!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on April 21, 2011, 12:18:43 PM
Second.

And even more suitable for WHFB since the lack of puff'n'slash is irrelevant.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on April 21, 2011, 12:25:49 PM
The lack of puffed and slashed is never irrelevant  :dry:

That said they are beautiful minis, looks like my Dogs of war will get the heavy cav they deserve...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on April 21, 2011, 12:27:35 PM
Well, true. What I meant is that it doesn't matter for heavy cav since the current Empire knights don't have it, either.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on April 21, 2011, 12:31:48 PM
I want the knights for my Hungarian Black Army. Though I already have fifteen Voland's Venetors which are exactly right anyway.

I still need to buy some of the pike/handgun/crossbow ones too!



Also, I like those civilian models from just up the thread. Especially the guy with the dog.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on April 21, 2011, 02:31:27 PM
I want the knights for my Hungarian Black Army.

Out of interest, what's a Hungarian Black Army?

I assume it has nothing to do with chili...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on April 21, 2011, 02:44:32 PM
Out of interest, what's a Hungarian Black Army?

Wiki link!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Army_of_Hungary


There's an army list in the Vlad the Impaler army book for WAB.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on April 21, 2011, 05:46:01 PM
I think this Padre Calixto by Tercio Creativo would make a great non-combattant sigmarite priest:

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-nivBEv8ikyM/TZBOLVgk9HI/AAAAAAAAAFM/pCSxo0GHBZ4/s1600/Padre+Calixto_color_by_TercioCreativo.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-n-tXM2cM5q0/TYnI3QjMNmI/AAAAAAAAAFI/GyIAozBb4ko/s1600/Padre+Calixto_Final_by_TercioCreativo.JPG)

http://terciocreativo.blogspot.com/ (http://terciocreativo.blogspot.com/)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: MrDWhitey on April 22, 2011, 01:06:04 AM
Chaps, I require aid!

Does anyone know of any figures for the following:


I'm really awful at finding miniatures.  :-(
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: warhammerlord_soth on April 22, 2011, 08:54:13 AM
http://www.langleymodels.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Medieval_Knights__54mm__142.html (http://www.langleymodels.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Medieval_Knights__54mm__142.html)


http://www.andrea-miniatures.com/market/AspsProductos/listado.asp?IdColeccion=112 (http://www.andrea-miniatures.com/market/AspsProductos/listado.asp?IdColeccion=112)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on April 24, 2011, 08:19:29 AM
More upcoming Bruegelburg figures from Lead Adventure Miniatures. The one with the hammer looks awesome!

(http://content.foto.mail.ru/mail/karpov1973/1035/i-2373.jpg)

(http://content.foto.mail.ru/mail/karpov1973/1035/i-2374.jpg)
(http://content.foto.mail.ru/mail/karpov1973/1035/i-2375.jpg)
(http://content.foto.mail.ru/mail/karpov1973/1035/i-2376.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on April 24, 2011, 09:32:57 AM
Now those are some sweet looking minis! If you did not have enough slash an puff before, you will get it now! And the fellow with the hammer would be such an awesome captain with great weapon or halberd.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Immovable Object on May 05, 2011, 09:23:21 PM
Gamezone have released some new Empire stuff which is rather spectacular including this Female Mage.

(http://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv258/wallumc1/gzm0210_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on May 05, 2011, 10:08:50 PM
Nice to see a painted example of that one!  I think it has been around for a little while though, I remember seeing it on maelstrom's website for a few months.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on May 07, 2011, 12:22:52 PM
Eureka Miniatures released their Italian Wars light cavalry I posted a while back:

(http://theminiaturespage.com/news/pics/2011/apr/844434b.jpg)

http://eurekamin.com.au/news.php?newsid=EFpupupAAVvEIngDkW (http://eurekamin.com.au/news.php?newsid=EFpupupAAVvEIngDkW)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on May 07, 2011, 04:14:53 PM
I've added a showcase in 8 parts to my blog, forming an illustrated guide to manufacturers of Empire/landsknecht style figures.

http://whiteknightminiatureimperium.blogspot.com/search/label/All (http://whiteknightminiatureimperium.blogspot.com/search/label/All)

Before anyone points it out, no I didn't forget Perry Miniatures, they're  just a different historical period and I wanted to stick to the more or less pure strain of puffy sleeved goodness.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on May 08, 2011, 08:12:24 AM
Just noticed the post with the Spanish/Elisabethan (=Estalian) figures wasn't showing up on the first page.

Fixed.  :-)

http://whiteknightminiatureimperium.blogspot.com/search/label/All (http://whiteknightminiatureimperium.blogspot.com/search/label/All)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on May 09, 2011, 05:26:30 PM
WK ... thanks for the link, and well done effort there. :icon_cool: :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on May 10, 2011, 11:15:48 AM
I had been planning to do this for some time now. :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on May 16, 2011, 10:27:01 PM
Lead Adventure/Ratnik miniatures Warrior Priests:
(http://content.foto.mail.ru/mail/karpov1973/1030/i-2412.jpg)
(http://content.foto.mail.ru/mail/karpov1973/1030/i-2415.jpg)
(http://content.foto.mail.ru/mail/karpov1973/1030/i-2421.jpg)
(http://content.foto.mail.ru/mail/karpov1973/1030/i-2419.jpg)

More pictures here: http://www.lead-adventure.de/index.php?topic=29303.0 (http://www.lead-adventure.de/index.php?topic=29303.0)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on May 17, 2011, 12:16:15 PM
That last one could make one very good arch lector. :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Blue in vt on May 17, 2011, 01:55:22 PM
 :icon_eek: :icon_eek:

Dude How did I Miss those over an the LAF!  Between you WK and Ratnik I'm going to broke my bank when all those things are released!

Cheers,

Blue
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on May 20, 2011, 02:55:22 PM
This is interesting - those Gamezone boys must have been naughty ...........


http://www.gamezoneminiatures.com/FBI/WEB%20CLOSED.html

 :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Blue in vt on May 20, 2011, 03:00:51 PM
 ::heretic:: ::heretic::

WOW that is very interesting...there is obviously a story to be told there!

Blue
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Kirgan on May 20, 2011, 03:24:19 PM
???????????????  ::heretic:: :eusa_wall: :unsure: :dry:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on May 20, 2011, 04:09:33 PM
Oh dear... Maybe GW is behind all this.  :ph34r: I mean, making the feds go after Gamezone.  :icon_razz:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on May 20, 2011, 04:33:08 PM
I thought Gamezone was a spanish (or at least european) company... how exactly does the FBI get involved here??
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on May 20, 2011, 04:36:23 PM
iT WORKS NOW FINE  :icon_confused:

http://gamezoneminiatures.de/?___store=gamezone_english&___from_store=gamezone_german (http://gamezoneminiatures.de/?___store=gamezone_english&___from_store=gamezone_german)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on May 20, 2011, 04:41:51 PM
Actually, thats the .de site.  If you try the .com site it is still closed.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on May 20, 2011, 04:44:29 PM
Maybe it's one of those fake sites, disguised to cover some illegal intentions, like stealing credit card numbers. I'm sure Gamezone has nothing to do with this.

Actually I remember that few days ago there kept popping up the registration window, asking to login. But now this is gone. this is weird, I'm getting worried.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Novogord on May 21, 2011, 08:58:58 AM
An interesting way to go, who would have thought that a site from a miniature game company could get closed by the FBI. Server crash, hacking, ... we all have seen that, but this?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on May 21, 2011, 09:49:48 AM
It looks like it's for a breach of gambling laws and there is an interesting legal tussle going on at the moment with online gambling sites in the US and methods of money laundering, maybe this is part of that. Pure speculation on my part.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on May 24, 2011, 02:32:43 PM
Not sure if we have seen these before.

There have been postings of other stuff from them before - flags and a long rifle.


(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-7xVXZzVW9t0/Ta2RHluEMEI/AAAAAAAAAFM/w-Y6dSvTQ2k/s320/LC03-CL1.png)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ZKraxcUCRqY/Ta2RIV8abeI/AAAAAAAAAFQ/klGSxcTVdcY/s320/LC04-CL2.png)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-z3GgCU1Bk4E/Ta2RGnIeZGI/AAAAAAAAAFI/m5CLCi1620M/s320/LC02-CS.png)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-M4gO79CGiYk/Ta2RFRCZgKI/AAAAAAAAAFE/onqhs-MhIKc/s320/LC01-BG%2526E.png)

full details here:

http://progloriaminiatures.blogspot.com/
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on May 24, 2011, 05:40:58 PM
Like the flags he's got shown on that site as well.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on May 24, 2011, 06:18:12 PM
Like the flags he's got shown on that site as well.

Yes - White Knight flagged (  :icon_rolleyes: ) them up a while back ................
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on May 28, 2011, 02:20:21 PM
Yes - White Knight flagged (  :icon_rolleyes: ) them up a while back ................

And the civilians too: http://warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=31348.msg597211#msg597211 (http://warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=31348.msg597211#msg597211)  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on May 28, 2011, 02:23:21 PM
Guess I should also mention this bloke I know is selling some Imperial dwarfs too:

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-1Iv8yX_Xdxg/TaruoAS9ORI/AAAAAAAAA_U/tYiOl7ODbJY/s1600/sebdwarves2.jpg)

 :engel: :biggriin:

http://whiteknightminiatureimperium.blogspot.com/search/label/All%20posts (http://whiteknightminiatureimperium.blogspot.com/search/label/All%20posts)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on May 28, 2011, 04:54:10 PM
Also just got this nice Witchhunter in the mail from Gorgon Studios:

(http://www.gorgon-studios.com/images/other/acon002-bw.jpg)

http://www.gorgon-studios.com (http://www.gorgon-studios.com)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: von Bildhofen on May 28, 2011, 08:08:47 PM
Nice found WK  :::cheers:::

I've just ordered it.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on May 28, 2011, 08:46:25 PM
Not mine! ...it's from their official site.

(http://www.gorgon-studios.com/images/other/acon002.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: von Bildhofen on May 29, 2011, 06:47:21 AM
I cthink ill do something to his sword when i get him, i dont like that square design - looks like orcsword from lotr.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on May 29, 2011, 08:37:10 PM
Do anyone know what rules are being used, and which terrain the Lead Adventure use for their post WWIII miniatures?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on May 31, 2011, 08:19:26 AM
(http://www.gorgon-studios.com/images/other/acon002.jpg)

Nice model and paint job  :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on May 31, 2011, 08:35:52 AM
@Justnorth: I apologize for misleading, but this isn't my work, it is just a copied image from their site. I was trying to be informative, because I also think this is a great mini and worthy to be praised more.



.....but you can allways check my blog for my work thou :wink:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on June 01, 2011, 05:37:43 PM
Do anyone know what rules are being used, and which terrain the Lead Adventure use for their post WWIII miniatures?

I have wondered the same thing, Shadowlord. I really like the look of those fellas. Anyway, I got get myself some of the Bruegelburg folks for my Empire. And I will get some of their WWIII minis that seems suitable to add to my Witch hunters.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on June 01, 2011, 05:52:50 PM
There are no specific rules, they just make the figures and you can use them with whatever game you want.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on June 01, 2011, 07:53:59 PM
There are no specific rules, they just make the figures and you can use them with whatever game you want.

Any cool ones out there?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: cjp on June 02, 2011, 05:30:11 AM
Bugelberg artillery

(http://content.foto.mail.ru/mail/karpov1973/1030/i-2447.jpg)
(http://content.foto.mail.ru/mail/karpov1973/1030/i-2448.jpg)
(http://content.foto.mail.ru/mail/karpov1973/1030/i-2449.jpg)

Made to fit a certain widely available gun carriage:

(http://content.foto.mail.ru/mail/karpov1973/1030/i-2397.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on June 02, 2011, 06:24:45 AM
wow, they look fantastic! your work?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on June 02, 2011, 07:10:52 AM
Sweet baby Jesus!  :Ohmy:  If I could get some of those cannons I would field a whole artillery battery with my empire just because of them sexy cannons!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on June 02, 2011, 07:48:03 AM
Yeah. How the hell do you get your hands on those puppies?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on June 02, 2011, 09:29:10 AM
I WANT!!!

Where do I get all these?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on June 02, 2011, 10:08:46 AM
They will be released by Lead Adventure Miniatures.

http://www.lead-adventure.com/index.php?cPath=22 (http://www.lead-adventure.com/index.php?cPath=22)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on June 02, 2011, 01:55:25 PM
Sorry to be a party pooper, but I'm not thrilled by them.  I can understand some snazzy designs at the rear end, but the rest is a cannon barrel, not some work of art.  Time is money, so what cannon builder in their right mind is going to spend extra effort getting all fancy with the barrel, like putting rifling on the outside, or a patch work quilt pattern, or making it look like a Roman Remas column?  I want artillery to look like artillery.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on June 02, 2011, 02:32:33 PM
GP, somewhere on this forum I poster pics I took in Musee de l'armee in Paris, in there they have cannons that look very similar to this, genuine works of art made by master craftsmen.

Sure many were churned out as cast iron or bronze tubes but some were made with just such artistry.

Artillery was a status symbol too, don't forget that.

Aha, exhibit a.

(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b306/Cod13/paris%20stuff/DSCF0155.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on June 02, 2011, 02:54:50 PM
Oh yes, I've seen such things.  Yet when an army needs artillery I doubt they're going to demand art, but that's just one view and its ok if there are others.  For those who want a status symbol, buy away.

 :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on June 02, 2011, 03:40:46 PM
You can apply the same argument to anything in war GP

Why have a fancy, ornate sword
Why have engraved and enamelled armour
Why dye the coats of hundreds of horses so they all match

Prestige, esprit d'corps, élan and instilling fear in the enemy by your very appearance.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on June 02, 2011, 04:04:09 PM
I wasn't so broad with my view that was expressed, and if other folks like the fancy artillery, ok.  :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on June 02, 2011, 05:41:55 PM
Gamespoet. Why insist on having the regimental colours in silk when you can have cheaper cotton? Because your soldiers would have felt humiliated and in full fury of being treated like dirt by not being given a proper banner out of silk.

There is no opposition between showing status and combat. The present day situation is probably just a temporary thing. We tend to understand and view everything from our perspective, but the fact is that throughout most history the norm seems to have been an eagerness to show of status and prestige on your own wargear!

A roman legionary would probably have disliked the present attitude towards personalization of a soldiers kit. The longer he served the vet would tend to "bling" out his kit more and more. And yes, he would fight in it.
Why fight in your fineries and risk having them trashed? Simple. Because by fighting in your fineries and risk them you show your enemy that:

1. You are a badass soldier who have fought long and survived to earn some handy extra coin enabling you to bling out your kit. You gotta be pretty darn though.
2. You show you are not scared one bit about him ever getting close to ruin your fineries.

The romans managed to achieved a rather neat esprit de corps and look of unity in their units while still allowing for personalization. And many see the romans as probably the most disciplined and most military army in history, even surpassing many modern forces.

Much comes down to the social standing and status of the common soldiers too. And to the level of individual involvement in contrast to state control over warfare.
And in the end, modern soldiers do bling out their kits and their vehicles as much as they can within the given restrictions. If things would be more free, you might see engraved cannons and gold engraved assaults rifles.  :icon_wink:

And you know what? I believe we will sooner or later turn back to that. And remember the german uniforms of WWII. Designed by Hugo Boss. Damn sure they were not the best adapted fighting dress in WWII, that gotta have been the US or maybe the british battledress. But damn did they look mean and sexy.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on June 02, 2011, 05:42:58 PM
I WANT!!!

Where do I get all these?
These fellas might take those cannons in if we support by making strategic purchases of a certain line of minis.  :icon_wink:
http://kulturkommissariatet.se/catalog/
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on June 02, 2011, 06:34:59 PM
Hey, Mathi ... not sure what the big deal is and strongly suggest me presenting my dislike of those cannons doesn't warrant entire post like that.

- - - - -

Besides, I like ACW artillery, but I suppose some would find them dull, and thats ok.  Folks are entitled to their versions of beauty and the reverse.

Additonally, I wasn't trying to start a debate, just offered a different view point then what else was being offered.  If folks have a differing eye for beauty with their cannons, thats fine by me.  I'm not impressed with the one's shown, and I precluded my comment with an apology for being a party pooper, but now I'm repeating myself.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on June 02, 2011, 07:03:10 PM
I know what you mean GP, the ECW army I used for the animosity campaigns is comparitivly very plain and I love that look too. It's just that these cannons are perfect for a self assured, wealthy and powerful army from Nuln or Altdorf, perhaps even Marienberg.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on June 03, 2011, 11:04:31 AM
What Uryen said.  :icon_biggrin:

My reason for writing that post was not necessarily to object to you, GP, but more to explain why it is not nonsense either way. In the 16th century and earlier, it was the norm that you tried your best to show of on your arms on the battlefield. Those cannons fits the mold perfectly. My next 30-years war inspired army (probably with some Perry war of the Roses in it to represent say Bretonnian mercs (Gasp!) will contain plain cannons of the type that was standard in the much more large scale and industrialized wars of the 17th century, when also the old status and rights of the once free landsknechts soldiers were replaced by the larger proletarianized and often poorer soldiers of mass armies of the 30-years war and onward.

It was really a huge change there, not so much in how the battles were fought or on strategy or weapons, but in the scale of war. That in the end affected the attention to details on embellishment. But it did not dissappear, as the standards and the dresses of the wealthy commanders shows.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on June 03, 2011, 02:56:15 PM
I like the look of these:

(http://www.warlordgames.co.uk/neo/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/WGP-SWO-01-left.png)

(http://www.warlordgames.co.uk/neo/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/WGP-SWO-01-right.png)

Quote
These great Warlord models are tooled up for the fray wih all manner of helmets, quality armour and of course the trademark sword and buckler. Two of the men are packing a pistol too, one with it on his belt and the other having a seperate arm, there being 3 differing bodies in total and a repeat body and loose arm to give the pistol option.

Each pack comes with 8 random metal swordsmen. You can grab some for your force by clicking here.


£12.00 for 8

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on June 03, 2011, 05:51:17 PM
Oho! Targetiers!

I join in on the praise.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on June 03, 2011, 06:13:59 PM
Damn you Warlord, damn you to hell.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on June 03, 2011, 09:37:19 PM
Of course they release these after their free shipping offer ends...

I could also get them from Maelstrom though, unless WG pulls a GW  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on June 04, 2011, 04:00:42 PM
I´ll just wait an one of the netstores packing Warlords stuff in Sweden will get them. Sweet, sweet! This means I would be able to make an entire Empire army out of 30-years war model, including swordsmen detachments. And by adding some Perry War of the Roses I get a bunch of bretonnians mercenaries, pissed of at living and serving their stuck up lords!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on June 06, 2011, 06:31:56 PM
Ouch... I did it. I just could not restrain myself further.
I bought them Perry WoTR fellas.
http://www.gamemaniacs.se/products/products_show_image.asp?imageName=PMP%20WR01.jpg%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20&productName=Perry+Bros+WAR+OF+THE+ROSES+Infantry+28mm+Hard+Plastic+Box+Set

Shame they only had one box in, but I hope they get another one in later so I can bump the billmen up to horde strength. Or I will have to find some other minis around I can squeeze in the back.

I also ordered these fellas to complement my 17th century pike unit:
http://kulturkommissariatet.se/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=124_1483&products_id=11944

It should bring them up to 36. And with the musketeers from the two boxes of Coventanters I bought earlier for a low price I can now make two detachments of muskets and one independent musket regiment.

I also had to buy this crazy lass just to get a close look at what Ratnik are capable of:
http://kulturkommissariatet.se/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=124_1572&products_id=15775

I think she will form the start of a very mixed unit of Free company, probably representing the remants of a village or citys population.

Basically, this will be the start for my new Empire army. Yes, I will make them look historically sweet but still aim to make an Empire army that looks a bit different but will be Empire still.

It will most likely be a Nordland or Middenland army. A large block of pike (yeah, I know, spears in reality but pikes looks cooler) with shoote in support, that are forming a start in what Theoderic Gausser terms Nordlands New Model army. However, support comes from bretonnian mercenaries, dissaffected low nobles and runaway peasants who have formed their own mercenary company and now fight for the Empire. What a perfect excuse to mix sweet minis from different historical periods!  :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on June 06, 2011, 07:28:18 PM
Ugh!  There are those Perry's again!  Stop it!  I'm not going to be able to resist, and I already bought some. :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on June 07, 2011, 04:49:37 PM
"Join the power of the dark side...." :ph34r:

I will most likely get a second box when they get one in stock. I cannot wait until I get home in a week and see if it has arrived. Man, I am really getting into the period now, with me working here at Glimmingehus. I gotta finds a good bretonnian sounding name for the regiment that also say "Sod off!" towards the pompous bret king and his lords. To the annoyance of those oversensitive bret players one had to deal with back in Animosity 5. Besides the one who was on our team, who had a beautiful idea of the bretonnians as not being all paragons of virtues and whatnot.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: cjp on June 16, 2011, 03:58:27 PM
More swiss from artizan, yay!

(http://www.artizandesigns.com/images/img1850.jpg)
(http://www.artizandesigns.com/images/img1851.jpg)
(http://www.artizandesigns.com/images/img1852.jpg)
(http://www.artizandesigns.com/images/img1853.jpg)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on June 16, 2011, 07:25:27 PM
Those look good.  Is this in addition to what they've already produced?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: TheElectorCount43 on June 17, 2011, 06:11:12 PM
Somewhere on the Internet (probably the dogs of war website) is a list of all the alternative miniatures suppliers that could be used as pikemen in an empire army.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on June 17, 2011, 07:36:27 PM
I like the look of these.

(http://www.warlordgames.co.uk/neo/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Sarmatian-Cataphract-command.png)

(http://www.warlordgames.co.uk/neo/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Sarmatian-Cataphracts.png)

Bit 'early' for WHFB, but who cares .................   :engel:


I like the idea of the kontos wielded two-handed ...... and imagine the rider polevaulting off his horse occasionally  :closed-eyes:


Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on June 17, 2011, 11:15:22 PM
Could make for some nice ungol or kislev heavy cavalry.  I have a unit of 10 GB russian cavalry that I am just in the process of finishing.

These guys look nicer though - any ideas on whether they are metal or plastic?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on June 18, 2011, 09:10:14 AM
Could make for some nice ungol or kislev heavy cavalry.

No way!

Wrong by 1000 years!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Commander Bernhardt on June 18, 2011, 09:30:51 AM
but how will these compare to GW? I've seen some warlords metal mini's and decided that they were way tho small for use next to gw. How about their plastics?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on June 18, 2011, 11:04:41 AM
Could make for some nice ungol or kislev heavy cavalry.

No way!

Wrong by 1000 years!

Is that historical nerdism .................  :engel:

Who cares  -  this is Fantasy - they could have been living in shangri-la all this time, or released from a magic spell.   :closed-eyes:

WG stuff does tend to be more 25mm, and their 'ancients' horses tend to be more like ponies compared to GW horses.


Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on June 18, 2011, 11:09:11 AM
I mean that they look nothing like Polish winged hussars or Cossacks, and so have no business being in a Kislev army.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on June 18, 2011, 03:33:40 PM
They will look small next to GW cavalry, but then again GW cavalry all run around on elephant sized horses.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on June 18, 2011, 06:34:45 PM
If your army is made up of at least no GW sized cavalry, there will be no problem. And they look sweeet.... Damn... They look very sweet. I want.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: patsy02 on June 18, 2011, 08:05:57 PM
Could make for some nice ungol or kislev heavy cavalry.

No way!

Wrong by 1000 years!
Who cares  -  this is Fantasy
:icon_mad:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on June 20, 2011, 05:54:54 AM
Could make for some nice ungol or kislev heavy cavalry. 

+1

They would make a smart addition to a Kislev line up offering something between the outriders and the Heavy Gryphon Knights.
Good find Midaski.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on June 28, 2011, 12:06:59 PM
Got some of these - arrived today.

They were in a separate thread on their own, but I felt they deserved a mention in this thread too.


(http://trollforged.com/images/fs_overlay_human_josef-ochmann_knight-1_resin.jpg)

(http://trollforged.com/images/fs_overlay_human_josef-ochmann_knight-2_resin.jpg)

(http://trollforged.com/images/fs_overlay_human_josef-ochmann_knight-3_resin.jpg)

They are the lightweight plastic resin material and are decent sharp sculpts.
Little bits of wafer like flash, and one of the overhead sword guys has a bent weapon, but I understand it straightens well if warmed up.

Size wise they are more a 25mm - they are skinnier than a Marauder Reiksgard and a few millimetres shorter though the built in base will raise them on a standard 20mm square base. Although they have a Reiksgard feel they are a better size match to the late 1980's 'fighters' and early bretonnian looking knights.

Still at $2 each they are a bargain.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on June 28, 2011, 12:51:37 PM
Those look very good. :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: MrDWhitey on June 28, 2011, 12:55:35 PM
Those look very good. :icon_cool:

They do! I mostly love the fact they're not metal!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on June 28, 2011, 01:44:52 PM
Who? Where? I missed these earlier
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on June 28, 2011, 02:08:03 PM
How did you miss the original thread - I don't know - call yourself gamers ..............  :icon_rolleyes:

http://trollforged.com/shelf_fantasy_Humans.html

Ed's a very nice man.

I got 4 of each so 24$ plus 6$ postage and it went through at just over £20 for 12 models of that quality .......... and I know I said 13 earlier, but because I am a nice man too  :engel: he sent me a freebie -  one of the chaos looking guys.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on June 28, 2011, 03:00:05 PM
Nice stuff. I like the baroque female knight
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on July 04, 2011, 06:39:38 PM
I just saw the Wargames Factory skeletons. On first sight, I like them. Does anybody have them and can tell me how they look in reality?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: towishimp on July 05, 2011, 02:00:01 AM
I just saw the Wargames Factory skeletons. On first sight, I like them. Does anybody have them and can tell me how they look in reality?

I liked what I saw on the net as well.  I just ordered 30 off ebay, and I'll try to get you some pics once they get here.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: towishimp on July 07, 2011, 03:40:43 AM
I just saw the Wargames Factory skeletons. On first sight, I like them. Does anybody have them and can tell me how they look in reality?

I liked what I saw on the net as well.  I just ordered 30 off ebay, and I'll try to get you some pics once they get here.

As promised, images:

(http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/z321/towishimp/IMG-20110706-00003.jpg)

(http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/z321/towishimp/IMG-20110706-00002.jpg)

(http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/z321/towishimp/IMG-20110706-00004.jpg)

I assembled two samples, one with the "coming out of the ground" base and one as a full figure.  As you can probably see, they're a tad shorter than a GW fig, and seem very thin.  The thinness also made assembly a bit tougher than my previous experiences with GW figs.  But overall, I'm happy with them.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on July 07, 2011, 07:25:57 AM
So basically they are the right size and dimensions and actually look like skeletons.

Unlike the mishapen lumps from GW
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on July 07, 2011, 02:37:15 PM
Because in your world, all people have melon heads?

They suck - just as the GW TK skeletons suck.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on July 07, 2011, 03:05:40 PM
How can they suck without lungs?

 :icon_confused:


I think they look okish but would prefer them armed and armoured.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on July 07, 2011, 03:39:57 PM
Yeah, not much of service being provided by a skeleton lady...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on July 07, 2011, 04:01:58 PM
Thank you very much, towishimp! :::cheers:::

I like them.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on July 07, 2011, 04:09:36 PM
awwwwwwww Mantic finally brought out a model that might even convince Shadowlord that they can at least compete with Games Workshop


http://www.manticgames.com/Shop-Home/Elves/Cavalry/Product/Elven-Drakon-Riders.html (http://www.manticgames.com/Shop-Home/Elves/Cavalry/Product/Elven-Drakon-Riders.html)





......well maybe not.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: warhammerlord_soth on July 07, 2011, 04:11:35 PM
ROTFL !
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on July 07, 2011, 04:33:02 PM
This here


http://www.shop.battlefield-berlin.de/index.php/katalog/artikelinfo/23102-1-show-male_desperate_merc.html (http://www.shop.battlefield-berlin.de/index.php/katalog/artikelinfo/23102-1-show-male_desperate_merc.html)

is one smexy engineer with repeater handgun model.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on July 07, 2011, 04:41:30 PM
awwwwwwww Mantic finally brought out a model that might even convince Shadowlord that they can at least compete with Games Workshop


http://www.manticgames.com/Shop-Home/Elves/Cavalry/Product/Elven-Drakon-Riders.html (http://www.manticgames.com/Shop-Home/Elves/Cavalry/Product/Elven-Drakon-Riders.html)


......well maybe not.

Hey they are perfect for how I see elven dragon riders...


Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: MrDWhitey on July 07, 2011, 04:44:42 PM
People seem to really like that model Fandir (the malifaux one).

I don't.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on July 07, 2011, 09:04:45 PM
Wow, not impressed by those Mantic elves on dragons.  Not one bit.

If I was going to have a high elf army, I'd buy GW over that.

- - -

The Malifaux model might look better if his hat wasn't riding so far up on his head.  Might.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Kirgan on July 07, 2011, 10:01:57 PM
I like it this  :engel:

This set includes

    2 x Elven Drakon Riders
    1 x Elves Poster Guide and Sticker Sheet
    1 x Mantic Point
    2 x Bases
    1 x Mantic Case with protective foam
What look like that  :unsure:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on July 07, 2011, 10:22:48 PM
MAntic are really shit.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on July 07, 2011, 10:24:57 PM
Well the ones you get with the normal figures are like VHS cases with foam padding, not a bad system and better than nothing.

And Mantic are not shit, they fill a niche and Some of their stuff is good value for money but a lot of it is kak.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on July 08, 2011, 05:20:17 AM
 :icon_lol:

And people complained about SoM monsters.

Thanks for the laugh Fandir.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on July 08, 2011, 07:46:04 AM
 :icon_confused:

Laugh?

I was serious they reminded me fondly of these Drake riders

http://media.photobucket.com/image/master%20of%20magic%20drake%20riders/VagabondZOD/MoM20/javier131.jpg (http://media.photobucket.com/image/master%20of%20magic%20drake%20riders/VagabondZOD/MoM20/javier131.jpg)


awwwww the joy this game gave and gives me.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on July 08, 2011, 12:45:58 PM
Yes, of course you did.  :closed-eyes:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: MrDWhitey on July 08, 2011, 01:10:47 PM
And people complained about SoM monsters.

Because they are small crybabies.

The SoM releases are pretty damn nice. And mostly plastic.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on July 08, 2011, 01:56:09 PM
Because they are small crybabies.

But Midaski is old...  :icon_confused:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: MrDWhitey on July 08, 2011, 02:10:03 PM
But Midaski is old...  :icon_confused:

Very old... this could be why...

Quote from: Somerandomsite
It seems like Babies and Old people have alot in common: They both wear Diapers, they both eat mush, they both have wrinkles, they both have trouble speaking, and they both need someone to care for them

That's for all the "Young people" stuff Midaski and GamesPoet pulled!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on July 08, 2011, 03:01:30 PM
 :icon_lol:  I might respond, but this isn't the back table. :icon_wink:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on July 08, 2011, 06:15:38 PM
Hey I like most of the Drizzle of Cantrips figures, and I even like half the scenery pieces
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on July 12, 2011, 10:42:41 AM
Because they are small crybabies.

But Midaski is old...  :icon_confused:

We start out in diapers....and we end in them. Human nature. Especially true for guys.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on July 12, 2011, 10:53:10 AM
Hey I like most of the Drizzle of Cantrips figures, and I even like half the scenery pieces
Do you have a link to a site?  I tried googling and got garbage.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on July 12, 2011, 03:29:23 PM
Hey I like most of the Drizzle of Cantrips figures, and I even like half the scenery pieces
Do you have a link to a site?  I tried googling and got garbage.

He means Storm of Magic, GP. :icon_wink:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on July 20, 2011, 06:48:05 PM
Quickly, folks! A piece of advice: Should I pay close to 40 EUR for a triplet of giant bats and some swarms of small ones?

Visible here:
http://www.masq-mini.com/aid-260-Deal-of-the-month.html
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on July 21, 2011, 09:34:01 AM
If you want them, yes! They are nice bats, and there are so few nice bats around.

Though I'm upset by the incorrect use of apostrophes in their advert.


Or did you already miss the deadline?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on July 21, 2011, 10:56:12 AM
Those are some mean looking bats.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on July 21, 2011, 11:28:19 AM
I say ....don´t Vampire bats are ugly no matter by whom or how they are used.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on July 21, 2011, 11:30:28 AM
Bats are bat-tacular.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on July 21, 2011, 01:10:50 PM
Don't - it could be very costly as next you'll want bat-tallions of them ................

 :icon_rolleyes:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Athiuen on July 21, 2011, 01:32:33 PM
Gah these puns are driving me batty!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on July 21, 2011, 05:19:17 PM
Batten down the hatches - there's a pun storm on the way.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on July 21, 2011, 05:30:58 PM
Or did you already miss the deadline?

I did. Thanks nonetheless!


Edit: I bought them anyway.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on July 22, 2011, 09:26:49 AM
Ahhhh! He bought them! Prepare the defence batteries!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on July 22, 2011, 09:31:02 AM
Or did you already miss the deadline?

I did. Thanks nonetheless!


Edit: I bought them anyway.

Ha I knew it..now I won my bat.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Silver Wolf on July 22, 2011, 11:57:12 AM
Please guys, just stop this debate.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on July 25, 2011, 11:20:09 PM
Does FW count as "other manufacturer"?

Anyway: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff/ELSPETH-VON-DRAKEN-ON-CARMINE-DRAGON.html

*sigh...*
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on July 26, 2011, 07:43:58 AM
A pity special characters are so frowned upon.

Still I think about fielding a lore of death wizard now instead of a lore of light one.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Marek on July 29, 2011, 12:21:53 PM

(http://www.lead-adventure.com/images/bruegelburg_deal_2.jpg)
http://www.lead-adventure.com/

Not quite as many jems as set 1, but still liked them enough to order on sight. :icon_razz:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on July 29, 2011, 12:26:41 PM
Great stuff! :icon_biggrin: :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on July 29, 2011, 12:41:36 PM
Indeed! Quite a few that could join Mad Griet in the ranks of my free company!  :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Blue in vt on July 29, 2011, 01:56:16 PM
 ::heretic:: ::heretic:: ::heretic::

Man those are fantastic...I love all his sculpts!!!  There isn't enough time or money to keep up with all the great figures that are coming out these days!

Blue
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on July 29, 2011, 03:04:01 PM
When checking out the site, its neat to discover that youdon't need ot buy all of them at once, they come in smaller groups, too, :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on July 29, 2011, 06:34:29 PM
They are more warhammer-y than actual warhammer stuff.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on July 29, 2011, 10:16:00 PM
Word Uryen! Word!  :icon_cool:

Like I said, I have one Bruegelburgh mini and it is so warhammery. I will certainly try to get more for my free company.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on July 29, 2011, 10:52:34 PM
I think I am going to have to buy the lot at some point :/
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Kirgan on July 29, 2011, 11:46:30 PM
Agree boys agree  :happy:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on July 30, 2011, 08:54:31 AM
The russian Ratnik fellas really know how to do things well. And they have done well in taking inspiration from Pieter Bruegels eminent 16th century paintings. I really love their look in their Post-Apocalypse range of minis, that also seems partially inspired by Stalker... So good. I am thinking about getting some too as Imperial Guard, henchmen.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on July 30, 2011, 06:39:52 PM
Just to conclude this, I have received my bats today, and they are nice sculpts.

The swarms in particular look like actual swarms rather than the emo version of whack-a-mole.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: towishimp on July 31, 2011, 11:15:22 PM
Just to conclude this, I have received my bats today, and they are nice sculpts.

The swarms in particular look like actual swarms rather than the emo version of whack-a-mole.

Thanks for the follow-up.  I'm considering getting some of them down the road, myself.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Kirgan on August 01, 2011, 08:23:37 AM
The russian Ratnik fellas really know how to do things well. And they have done well in taking inspiration from Pieter Bruegels eminent 16th century paintings. I really love their look in their Post-Apocalypse range of minis, that also seems partially inspired by Stalker... So good. I am thinking about getting some too as Imperial Guard, henchmen.

I like his nick it is Warrior when you translate  :happy:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on August 06, 2011, 03:34:00 PM
Second batch of excellent minis from my second most impressive - but they do not have a cool apokalypse game - mini manufacturer spotted in this thread.

Awesome stuff!  :eusa_clap:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on August 07, 2011, 03:22:13 PM
There is a dire need for a cool Apokalypse game then, but then, is there not plenty of them around from different manufacturers... :unsure:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 14, 2011, 04:37:31 AM


Been away for a while. Just spotted this over at TMP...

http://tigerminiatures.co.uk/page4.htm
or in the US...
http://recreationalconflict.lusagi.com/landsknechts.html

Some of the poses and proportion look a bit off, but I'd probably give them a chance for an "in the flesh" trial/review. (I thought the OG landsknechts looked a little rough at first, but they painted up nicely.) No idea how these scale up with any other manufacturers.



I am dying to get my hands on some of those Breugelburg figures.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Kirgan on August 15, 2011, 11:26:53 AM
In section with Balkan Wars some parts of my family would be very offended (ohh yes my grandfather was in that wars  and he didn't have some opinion for most of army he was participant in both Balkan wars and Both WW) and his army don't have even single miniature  :closed-eyes:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Blue in vt on August 15, 2011, 01:42:08 PM


Been away for a while. Just spotted this over at TMP...

http://tigerminiatures.co.uk/page4.htm
or in the US...
http://recreationalconflict.lusagi.com/landsknechts.html

Some of the poses and proportion look a bit off, but I'd probably give them a chance for an "in the flesh" trial/review. (I thought the OG landsknechts looked a little rough at first, but they painted up nicely.) No idea how these scale up with any other manufacturers.

Yeah the price is right on those but man they look a bit rough...I look fwd to your in hand review.

Ratnik is the man!

Blue
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on August 19, 2011, 03:19:43 PM
Wargames Factory have the draft sprues up for their WSS Cavalry.

(http://www.wargamesfactory.com/Images/Announcements/wss-cavalry-1-front.jpg)

(http://www.wargamesfactory.com/Images/Announcements/wss-cavalry-1-back.jpg)

and the horsies ..............

(http://www.wargamesfactory.com/Images/Announcements/wss-cavalry-2-front.jpg)

Seems to be choices of heads and torsos ......
Some very 'Roundhead' looking helmets there.


Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: towishimp on August 21, 2011, 08:12:15 PM
What's WSS stand for?

Those sprues look pretty cool!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Von Kurst on August 21, 2011, 09:03:55 PM
The War of Spanish Succession
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: towishimp on August 21, 2011, 09:17:27 PM
The War of Spanish Succession

Ah, thanks.  So a little away from my time period of interest, but they still look workable as some sort of light cav, maybe with some headswaps.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on August 27, 2011, 02:19:29 AM
I'm wondering why they have empty sprue space on these.

Not sure these would really work for Renaissance era fantasy, but then again, it is fantasy.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on August 27, 2011, 10:51:54 AM
Renaissance is dubious, but Fantasy - well ...........  :closed-eyes:

There are a few heads that could probably go to ECW or TYW - the torsos have a bit of militia set feel to them.


I also spotted the new 3D image of their prototype Samurai.

http://www.wargamesfactory.com/announcements/3d-samurai-preview

http://www.wargamesfactory.com/announcements/3d-samurai-preview-part-2

They're 360 degree revolving images.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 30, 2011, 03:59:38 AM


Just saw this link at TMP. Someone is putting the Perry plastics to good use. Inspiring for Empire armies, in fact.

http://www.lead-adventure.de/index.php?topic=32497.msg383533

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on August 30, 2011, 01:21:01 PM
Those look very good! Thanks for sharing.  :icon_cool: :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 02, 2011, 11:26:23 PM


http://www.fantization.com/demonpanda-32mmx1figsept06.aspx

(http://www.fantization.com/ProductImages/msb_toys/legend_monkey_king/MSB-DP001.gif)


:-D

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on September 05, 2011, 09:20:10 AM
That is just mad!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on September 05, 2011, 09:21:26 AM
Don´t let Mogsam see this....it could shatter his sensible mind.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on September 06, 2011, 10:48:39 AM
Jabba the Panda!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 10, 2011, 11:52:46 PM
Someone on Warseer pointed out that there are some good pics of the Perry plastic Wars of the Roses cavalry 3-ups.

(I love the AWI British on that page as well...)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on September 11, 2011, 10:13:49 AM
German armour? I didn´t know they had Panzers back then.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on September 11, 2011, 03:20:42 PM
You had Florian Geyer and his Schwartze haufe among other things.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Aldaris on September 12, 2011, 07:48:10 AM
You had Florian Geyer and his Schwartze haufe among other things.

Great, thank you. Now the corresponding song is playing in my head (it's an awesome one, but still)...

Spieß voran, drauf und dran,
setzt auf's Klosterdach den roten Hahn!

 ::heretic::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on September 13, 2011, 03:12:08 AM
wargames foundry currently has all of their ancients on sale.

Anyone in canada or us interested in splitting any units?  I might be interested in some gladiators or other stuff....
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on September 13, 2011, 01:35:15 PM
Is there a link to that sale?

They had a summer sale for their Vikings, Saxons, Orcs, and small Persian sprues thats over, but couldn't find anything about their ancients.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on September 13, 2011, 05:55:12 PM
Foundry not Factory .................


20% off Foundry means they are still about 40% too dear ...................  :icon_rolleyes:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on September 13, 2011, 06:51:53 PM
Ah ... lol ... I'll try to see that differently next time.

- - - - -

The Perrys got a new website up and running.

Here's a link to their page regarding all the plastic items on their worktable ...

http://www.perry-miniatures.com/pages.php?page=plastics-workbench

Really looking forward to some of those. :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: towishimp on September 13, 2011, 06:59:19 PM
Foundry not Factory .................


20% off Foundry means they are still about 40% too dear ...................  :icon_rolleyes:

Yeah, I concur.  They look great, and I can think of Warhammer uses for a lot of those ancients, but dang...$20 for six guys just doesn't cut it.  That's about as expensive as buying GW new.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 13, 2011, 08:37:57 PM


There are plenty of other options in the historical market.

http://zerotwentythree.blogspot.com/p/28mm-figure-manufacturers.html

My current favorites are Crusader, A&A and Artizan. But there's plenty of choice.



Just spotted this link at Warseer:  http://www.facebook.com/pages/Fireforge-Games/271339052885426?sk=photos

Looks like another new plastic figure company.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on September 14, 2011, 05:19:18 AM
A new website for the battleforge.
I never had any idea he had been sculpting so many different models.
Can't wait to see the new Halfling Ogres when they come out...
This is a very interesting option...
http://www.thebattleforge.co.uk/product/Halfling_Sailing_Boat_HAF9801
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on September 14, 2011, 02:22:10 PM
I just have to remake my knights into a Warhammer version of Der Schwartze Haufe, fittingly refluffed into a unit of Morrish followers.

Got to link the song aswell.  :biggriin:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9sVcRxopJU&feature=related
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 14, 2011, 02:42:59 PM
A new website for the battleforge.
I never had any idea he had been sculpting so many different models.
Can't wait to see the new Halfling Ogres when they come out...
This is a very interesting option...
http://www.thebattleforge.co.uk/product/Halfling_Sailing_Boat_HAF9801


They look a little too rustic for me.

And something that's bugged me about a lot of halfling figures... the guts hanging out. Now, knowing that they are wide of girth, wouldn't their own tailors/families make clothes that fit a halfling's physique instead of consistently making their clothes too small to cover their gut? It's like they make clothes for some other race, or maybe they get them second hand from human children.

And then there are the teeth...

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on September 14, 2011, 04:01:08 PM
I just have to remake my knights into a Warhammer version of Der Schwartze Haufe, fittingly refluffed into a unit of Morrish followers.

Well, it would suit your sympathy for the common farmer. :-)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on September 15, 2011, 06:22:51 AM
A new website for the battleforge.
I never had any idea he had been sculpting so many different models.
Can't wait to see the new Halfling Ogres when they come out...
This is a very interesting option...
http://www.thebattleforge.co.uk/product/Halfling_Sailing_Boat_HAF9801


They look a little too rustic for me.

And something that's bugged me about a lot of halfling figures... the guts hanging out. Now, knowing that they are wide of girth, wouldn't their own tailors/families make clothes that fit a halfling's physique instead of consistently making their clothes too small to cover their gut? It's like they make clothes for some other race, or maybe they get them second hand from human children.

And then there are the teeth...

Halflings are supposed to be rustic  - Lol
They are not the merchant bankers of the warhammer world  :icon_mrgreen:
They till fields, grind flour at the windmill or watermill etc. they make beer, they are not fashion icons wearing patent leather shoes and if their clothes are ill fitting after a long summer and a good harvest then they don't mind at all.
No dental care packages in Hobbiton I'm afraid.  :icon_mrgreen:
These are not Mini-me, they are halflings   :::cheers:::  I'm afraid you have a very weird view of what a halfling is meant to be. :icon_confused:

Small towns, rural environments, horses and carts an innate love of food, beer and pipeweed, running about in barefeet and loving it.
Stealing mushrooms and carrots from a distant neighbours garden, fishing inthe rivers, streams or lakes and ponds, keeping dogs and tending sheep and chickens.
A little too rustic Hahahahahahahahah  Are you having a laugh.  :icon_mrgreen:
I love the realism and above all the 'character' and the humour captured in the battleforge models, thats why I've shelled out a chunk of money for these guys because when you own them you will see the lovely character first hand, in your hand, and when you paint them the humour comes forth.
I really fell in love with  the standard bearer who has the flag wrapped around his face from a sudden gust of wind and you can see the features of his face disproportionately represented coming through the fabric.
http://www.thebattleforge.co.uk/product/Halfling_Standardbearer_0105_HAF0105
That is what halflings are all about. That is an inspired idea backed up by a quality sculpt.
I'm particularly glad he has done some mounted halflings as well because those in the LotR range from G-dub are just too small in scale to fit in with the regular warhammer sized 28mm models.
Halflings are too rustic, thats gonna be my sig, that is  a classic oxymoron.  :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Blauer Nebel on September 15, 2011, 06:32:49 AM
I dunno'. I think after all this time many might have left and moved into cities and become middleman minorities, much like the Jews were.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on September 15, 2011, 08:44:09 AM
I think there are two kinds of halflings

The kind described as living in the West Country, drinking zoider and generally being mildly comic if not quite idyllic

And those that live and work in the cities. Who are vicious organised crime gangs, controlling all the city vices etc. There's room for both. Just the first type would raise their own militia, the second would be black marketeers or simply serve in the regular city militia in some form.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Davey on September 15, 2011, 09:20:24 AM
I think there are two kinds of halflings

The kind described as living in the West Country, drinking zoider and generally being mildly comic if not quite idyllic

And those that live and work in the cities. Who are vicious organised crime gangs, controlling all the city vices etc. There's room for both. Just the first type would raise their own militia, the second would be black marketeers or simply serve in the regular city militia in some form.

Never thought about Halflings in that way, but it actually makes a lot of sense - although the majority of models do seem to fit with the first (country bumpkin) kind. I've got some of the Battleforge mounted Halflings and they're really great... planning on getting started on painting them this weekend.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on September 15, 2011, 11:10:34 AM
All this talk of battleforge... makes me want to get some!  Perhaps this month I will finally shell out some cash for a few.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on September 15, 2011, 05:15:41 PM
I've got some of the Battleforge mounted Halflings and they're really great... planning on getting started on painting them this weekend.
Rumour is the Battleforge is going to be producing mounted Halfling Knights and armoured halflings on foot are coming soon-ish, as well as a shield wall and Halfling 'state troopers' who will have less of the 'country bumpkin' about them and more of the clean lines you would expect from a semi-professional military unit.
I'm looking forward to seeing what he will come up with.
The Halfling ogres are not far away at all.
Word is 2 are sculpted already and two more will be coming soon, possibly a standard bearer. :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 15, 2011, 07:36:54 PM
OK, even if I acknowledged a rustic archetype (and I think there are different types of halflings described in fantasy literature) I still don't see why they would design all their clothes to specifically not fit properly.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Davey on September 15, 2011, 07:54:50 PM
I've got some of the Battleforge mounted Halflings and they're really great... planning on getting started on painting them this weekend.
Rumour is the Battleforge is going to be producing mounted Halfling Knights and armoured halflings on foot are coming soon-ish, as well as a shield wall and Halfling 'state troopers' who will have less of the 'country bumpkin' about them and more of the clean lines you would expect from a semi-professional military unit.
I'm looking forward to seeing what he will come up with.
The Halfling ogres are not far away at all.
Word is 2 are sculpted already and two more will be coming soon, possibly a standard bearer. :engel:

Cheers for the heads-up - something else to add to the 'must buy' list  :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on September 15, 2011, 08:42:31 PM
I'm a big fan of halflings (I have around 1500 metals from different manufacturers)
I do like th character found in the much older style of pre-slotta halflings and early slotta halflings.
Part of the inherent charm of the Battleforge halflings is that they have tapped into that 'feel' and it definitely floats my boat.
I love the whacky, the slightly dishevelled, the startled and the humourous 'feel' of the old halflings from the 1980's and the Battleforge is coming out with that 'feel' in adundance in his sculpts.
It may not be for everyone but I love it.
There is definitely something quirky about halflings and also an element of silliness that I love to indulge.
When that comes out in the sculpt it becomes a must have miniature for my enduring halfling obsession.

I've had a good look through the likes of Mirliton (way too small for 28mm as it is these days) and Black hat, (nice sculpts, not a lot of variety though and they look  more like small slim human children than a separate race with their own characteristics. Not 'characterful' enough for my taste in halflings, they are too 'samey' for my palate),
Lots of other manufacurers dabble in making a few halflings, (GW still has the small select few halfling options sculpted by the mercurial Perry's over 20 years ago) and some of them are very nice, but none of them are dedicated to covering the entire race and filling in all the blanks so you can use an entire army as a proxy for instance.
I'm aware its highly likely the new war machine crews will be released before the end of October, probably sooner.
There are Halfling rangers in the pipeline, which is I suppose what Lumpin Croops fighting Co*ks were as a regiment of renown. The Battleforge are going to produce their own ranger unit in time to come.
It's a very fitting unit type for halflings, what with their innate ability with woodcraft and moving very stealthily through woodlands.
As a I said earlier the Battleforge is going to be producing armoured mounted knights, armoured foot knights, a special shield wall and the rangers.
It's highly likely that there will be a unit of state trooper halflings as well which will contrast nicely with the more peasant like Militia.
More whacky war machines are in the offing and the halfling range is apparently going to be open ended.
So what ever the Battleforge likes the idea of , they will sculpt it as an addition to the warhammer / halfling milieu.
For instance, it's pretty ourt of the ordinary but apparently two Halfling ogres are finished greens and there are two more to come.
Wouldn't it be great to field something like a glorious 4th edition style Empire army with all the elements taken up as hobbits.
I would also love to see a special Halfling Oliphant in time to come...  :icon_mrgreen:
With the consistent outpourings from the Battleforge there is every chance it could become a reality.
Onwards and upwards.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on September 15, 2011, 09:34:51 PM
Onwards and upwards.

Onwards, I'll give you. But upwards - not really a halfling's forte.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on September 15, 2011, 09:57:37 PM
Is there a link to where these battleforge rumours are discussed?  Anyone have WIP pics?

I like their questing fighters of reknown or whatever they are called.  Some of the sword militia are nice (especially buckethead) but I am not too fond of the spear halflings - some of the proportions seem a little wacky.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on September 16, 2011, 05:31:21 AM
I think the proportions are more of a situation where militia spear represent a peasant community where you have Lemmy who is nearly 4 feet 6 inches and Clem who is 3 feet 3 inches working side by side in the fields, looking a bit odd and rag-tag if you like when they stand together in a 'similar' uniform as it were.
The 'state troops' for the halflings that are coming out will offer the more regimented and orderly type halfling heights, girths, uniforms and relative proportions.
I have ever been plagued by plastic miniatures for all races that come out in units exactly the same height, width, girth and volume.
I have always looked hard and long for the 'different ' miniatures that have differences in more than just a head swap or a weapon change.
I see Halflings as a kind of semi-organised throng with an aspect of individuality about them that you are not going to expect in Men, Dwarves or Elves for example.
So the purposeful differentiation of proportions in the range, is only really achievable because of the metal casting.
If this were plastic injection moulding then everything would be too 'samey'. Squashed down into digitised uniformity for mass production, and understandably so because the cost of the set up for mass production of plastic injection moulding is something that the vast majority of the boutique or cottage industry miniature sculptors and manufacturers find well outside their fiscal capabilities.
Consequently many of the 'older brigade'  (grognards  :icon_twisted:) prefer metals, not so much because of the medium itself, but because it means the potential for differentiation within the framework of an already much loved genre.
Now some folk adore having every model in a unit nigh on identical, and it works with a particular spectacularity in napoleonics for instance.
I however prefer to have virtually every model slightly different and in a more rag tag army like Goblins or Halflings, a high level of individuality throughout the army.
That is another reason I have gravitated to the Battleforge for my halflings, not only is it very difficult to find any manufacturer anywhere who offers any kind of variety for halflings in terms of different unit availability, but also for differentiation and individuality inside those units, and the ongoing development of more and more different units coming out.
I love the way the new website allows for the purchase of individual miniatures. I don't have to buy two packs of anything to get two of the particular model I want.  :::cheers:::
I can cherry pick to my hearts desire and get exactly what I want for each unit and exactly how many I want (or that my budget and mrs will allow  :icon_redface:)
I also like having that feeling of wonderment at what will come out next and what will it be like... I really like that feeling of hopeful expectation.
For a collector and painter of all things halfling the Battleforge is a treasure trove  :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on September 16, 2011, 10:13:47 AM
Onwards and upwards.

Onwards, I'll give you. But upwards - not really a halfling's forte.

Ha!

Your amount of snarky comments has increased rapidly as of late. :eusa_clap: Are you trying to make me redundant?

Speaking of which, how much is Whitey paying you for it?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on September 17, 2011, 03:07:25 PM
OK, even if I acknowledged a rustic archetype (and I think there are different types of halflings described in fantasy literature) I still don't see why they would design all their clothes to specifically not fit properly.
Maybe its not the tailor's fault.  Maybe its a cultural thing, the halfling just walks into the store and picks the first thing off the rack.  After all, he's got more important things to do like farm, eat, and be merry, or for those with other inclinations, find invisibility rings and slay dragons. :icon_wink:

:engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on September 17, 2011, 04:30:12 PM
It's a well known fact that halfling weavers are guilty of tentering abuse. Over tentered cloth will, as all of us know, tend to shrink back to its proper size upon the first rainfall or other form of soaking. The chap-halflings who sold the cloth, however, are only too happy to take the extra money for the apparent extra size.

The halflings themselves don't seem to mind, and have even adopted the shrunken clothes as a fashion, but I say humans look ridiculous in such garb. This I would suggest that all those loyal to the Emperor should boycott halfling broadcloth or kerseys and buy only that woven by human hands. 
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 17, 2011, 06:10:21 PM
I should buy some of those and put little gut plates on them. Maybe they're showing off.  :wink:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: cjp on September 17, 2011, 06:58:47 PM
Quote from: Justnorth
As a I said earlier the Battleforge is going to be producing armoured mounted knights, armoured foot knights, a special shield wall and the rangers.
It's highly likely that there will be a unit of state trooper halflings as well which will contrast nicely with the more peasant like Militia.
More whacky war machines are in the offing and the halfling range is apparently going to be open ended.
So what ever the Battleforge likes the idea of , they will sculpt it as an addition to the warhammer / halfling milieu.
For instance, it's pretty ourt of the ordinary but apparently two Halfling ogres are finished greens and there are two more to come.
Wouldn't it be great to field something like a glorious 4th edition style Empire army with all the elements taken up as hobbits.
I would also love to see a special Halfling Oliphant in time to come...  :icon_mrgreen:
With the consistent outpourings from the Battleforge there is every chance it could become a reality.

Yeah, it would be great... the only problem is that they'd all be sculpted by Battleforge.

The range is far to low quality in the sculpting for me. Its too bad too, I was excited when it started, and like that he has grand plans to fill a niche, but I just wish he hired a more talented sculptor.  Look at that boat for example.  :icon_redface:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 18, 2011, 01:54:21 AM
OK... here's maybe a better explanation. I like the way hobbits were portrayed in most of the Tolkein art, including the movies. Rustic, but not inbred mutant hillbillies.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on September 18, 2011, 03:11:54 AM
I do agree that the sculpting is on the lower end - its not GW or some of the better foundry stuff.  But most of it is decent, and would look great with the right paintjob.

My comment about the proportions of the spear halflings - it relates to the sculpting rather than variation between individuals.  For instance, look at the guy on the left:

(http://www.thebattleforge.co.uk/pub/files/Halfling/Spearmen/1315152333_battleforge%20halfling%20x3%20packs%20Spearmen%20B.jpg)

The head just looks... weird.

But that just means I will have to buy from their other ranges.  Many of the others look great.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on September 19, 2011, 05:53:46 AM
To be fair those spearmen are knocking on four years old and they are the first sculpts for the range, the new spearmen will be considerably different and I don't know if those models will even be available when the new sculpts are up for sale. There has been a significant and steady improvement in the quality of the sculpts over the last 4-5 years as I've been watching them develop into a range, from something that was more like an experiment and a bit of fun.
I'm not sure when the spears will be revisited either but as others have pointed out, there are a lot of other excellent units available in the range and 'nobody' does the variation he offers, and he is only expanding his variation all the time.

@Cjp, horses for courses, I think the boat is perfect, I love it. Halflings are not noted for their desire to travel, especially upon water, did you see what passed for a ferry at Buckland in LotR? It was a timber raft so the boat here fits perfectly as an extension of that. I hardly expect to see halflings ploughing up the Buckland river in a St Tropez super yacht  :icon_mrgreen:
I understand you like totally clean lines, I get it, but with the halflings I will take the character and humour in the sculpt everytime over a meticulous line detail that I would expect in say, Elves or Imperial Knights a la the new Perry Knights.
However halfling sculpts like these are still top drawer in my book...
http://www.thebattleforge.co.uk/product/Adventuring_Halflings_Pack_HAF0002-0006-0301-0302
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on September 20, 2011, 10:02:31 AM
Most perfect Vampire Lord....ever.

http://www.shop.battlefield-berlin.de/index.php/katalog/artikelinfo/24959-1-show-discworld_havelock_vetinari_1.html (http://www.shop.battlefield-berlin.de/index.php/katalog/artikelinfo/24959-1-show-discworld_havelock_vetinari_1.html)

Technicus on Robohorse

http://www.shop.battlefield-berlin.de/index.php/katalog/artikelinfo/24960-1-show-wolsung_snorri_rottstein_on_golemic_flea_1.html (http://www.shop.battlefield-berlin.de/index.php/katalog/artikelinfo/24960-1-show-wolsung_snorri_rottstein_on_golemic_flea_1.html)

Kommisar for Imperial Guard
http://www.shop.battlefield-berlin.de/index.php/katalog/artikelinfo/24875-1-show-kapitan_ivanka_kurganova_28mm.html (http://www.shop.battlefield-berlin.de/index.php/katalog/artikelinfo/24875-1-show-kapitan_ivanka_kurganova_28mm.html)


http://www.shop.battlefield-berlin.de/index.php/katalog/showarticles/99998-1-koepfe.html (http://www.shop.battlefield-berlin.de/index.php/katalog/showarticles/99998-1-koepfe.html)

I really like some of the orc heads...the pirate heads are extremely well.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 26, 2011, 02:33:19 AM
OK, I'd be tempted to field an engineer on robohorse just for the chance to use that flea model!


Spotted these at Frothers, they don't seem to be up on the Freebooter site yet:

http://www.frothersunite.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=35405

Lustrian troops anyone? They'd almost make better Lustrian themed Wood Elf wardancers, I think. (Hmmm... now that could be a cool themed army...)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on September 26, 2011, 08:52:59 PM
Has anyone ( mainly USA or Germany I would guess ) have any experience of this company?

http://www.bronzeagemin.com/

They say 32mm but the minis look a bit skinny.

I love the dynamism of the VIking poses -

(http://www.bronzeagemin.com/IMAGES/miniatures/25MM/cool%20or%20not/Viking-1-painted.jpg)

(http://www.bronzeagemin.com/IMAGES/miniatures/25MM/Historical/28mm-vikings/28mm-viking-s4c.jpg)

and the Greeks .....

(http://www.bronzeagemin.com/IMAGES/miniatures/25MM/Historical/32mm-greeks/Greek%20Heroes%20set%201/Greek-Heroes-set-1.jpg)

and the Amazons,

(http://www.bronzeagemin.com/IMAGES/miniatures/25MM/Historical/32%20mm-Amazons/Amazon-set-1.jpg)


 and the Pirates look great too.

(http://www.bronzeagemin.com/IMAGES/miniatures/25MM/Historical/28mm-pirates/28mm-pirate-girl-14.jpg)

.... and I am told there will be 30% off this week .................
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on September 26, 2011, 09:08:12 PM
Gah, their figures are lovely but their website is awful!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on September 26, 2011, 10:30:21 PM
Damn thoooooose greeks are fantastic....thank god I have not bought the wargames dudes yet.
(they might join some day too)...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: orcyboy on September 27, 2011, 02:57:19 AM
Has anyone ( mainly USA or Germany I would guess ) have any experience of this company?

(http://www.bronzeagemin.com/IMAGES/miniatures/25MM/cool%20or%20not/Viking-1-painted.jpg)


As I understand it, its a one man operation.  A friend owned a couple of the female sculpts from the sci-fi section.  They had a crude home made feel.  I didn't care much for them.

But it looks like he's expanded his catalogue, the historical stuff looks good.   Though that vikings head looks like Fizzgig.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on September 27, 2011, 09:02:56 AM
Damn thoooooose greeks are fantastic....thank god I have not bought the wargames dudes yet.
(they might join some day too)...

He has a German supplier - though most things seemed out of stock .........................
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on September 27, 2011, 09:18:37 AM
They probably got shipped to Greece.

Boom, boom.



Anyway, that looks good at first glance! Thanks for the link, I will give it a closer look.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Badwolf on September 27, 2011, 11:16:07 AM
.... and I am told there will be 30% off this week .................

Mids, any idea where we can find details about the 30% discount?

I've been eyeballing his wasteland mutants for some time now as they're obviously modelled on the Green Martians of Edgar Rice Burroughs' "Barsoom" (of which I am a fan).

(I'm currently awaiting the arrival of a small order from TinMan (http://tinminis.com/TinManCatalog.htm) who also do not-Barsoom miniatures if it's of interest to anyone.)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 27, 2011, 12:55:00 PM
They say 32mm but the minis look a bit skinny.



One man's "skinny" is another man's "more realistic proportions because they don't have oversized heads and hands or the build of a crossbreed with a Cabbage Patch doll."  :wink:

They look like their proportions aren't as exaggerated as most figures.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on September 27, 2011, 07:11:24 PM
@ Midaski ; yeah mate, I picked up some of those Vikings a while ago and the poses are nice and the sculpts are nice but for a Viking in 28mm they are sadly a bit skinny or should we say 'under-nourished' compared to the other Vikings and Saxons from a variety of manufacturers I already had so I didn't buy any more.
I use them as part of my berserker unit for my Human Barbarian horde, they're ok, they work fine as part of a table top skirmishing unit.
Some of these miniatures ...
http://www.musketeer-miniatures.com/store.php?r=11&rule=Historical&id=35
...are just wonderful sculpts and as early Saxons they cross over into Vikings nicely.
They work well with Foundry as well.
I use them for leader models and front rank models for my Saxon/Viking horde. I prefer them over the nice Foundry options, but I'm not going to get rid of the Foundry Vikings because they although they are not my favourite, they are still good quality and they were a bargain on eBay.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on September 27, 2011, 08:36:19 PM
.... and I am told there will be 30% off this week .................

Mids, any idea where we can find details about the 30% discount?


I emailed him about UK suppliers - he emailed back and mentioned he was going to put it up - there may have been a problem with the 'how to order' page.
I've just ordered $101 worth which he dropped to $71 and then shipping was $13.95 for a box around the size of a VHS tape.
I bought 6 sets for $84.65 and paid through Paypal.

So 38 figures for around £56.00

Email him and mention my name.  :engel:

The Legend that is the Lord Chancellor lives on ..................
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 29, 2011, 09:09:46 PM
http://www.blackscorpionminiatures.com/index.php

Elf pirates!

(http://www.blackscorpionminiatures.com/images/news/commodorelr.jpg)

(http://www.blackscorpionminiatures.com/images/news/elves2lr.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on September 29, 2011, 09:46:10 PM
Elf pirates!

So now I can mix elves in with my mixed goblin, human, orc, dwarf and ogre Pirate army. Cool! And they will, I am sure, all get along like a house on fire.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 29, 2011, 10:37:53 PM
Looks like there are more elves in the Fantasy Pirates section.

I like the goblins a lot, but wish there were more"rank & file" looking gobbos. Half of them have big hats & look like captains/bosses.

At the last convention I went to, I had to decided between the pirate goblins and pirate girls. The ladies won. (Though I still haven't had a chance to paint any, yet!) But I really love all the Black Scorpion figures.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on October 01, 2011, 11:20:19 AM
But I really love all the Black Scorpion figures.

I like that orc sea captain they make. I need to buy it!



Perry miniatures wagon!

(http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r146/chicks_photos/Ox_wagon_1.jpg)
(http://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/workbench/ox_wagon_2.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on October 01, 2011, 11:33:45 AM
I really want that.

I nearly wrote 'really, really' but that would annoy me. And why annoy oneself? I ask you. That's something I really, really hate. Darn it!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on October 01, 2011, 12:15:48 PM
That will be a lovely baggage piece for the battlefield, hmmm...   :happy:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on October 02, 2011, 10:01:36 AM
Nice, gonna have to get me one of them
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 02, 2011, 02:06:54 PM


I like that the wagon comes stocked with "stuff." I've got some other wagons -- GW and Front Rank, I think -- but they're all empty. I keep planning on modeling some simple cargo, but once I finished painting them, I think my brain just moved them over to the "done" column. So now, when I use them I think, "man, I really need to get those wagons filled" but then forget about them again til the next time.



Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on October 03, 2011, 03:39:21 PM
Some shameless selfpromotion: Dwarf pistoliers and other cavalry available now.  :engel:

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-UFJULU-LiQs/TmS5l8kNj3I/AAAAAAAAATI/59phvKEy2Qw/s1600/dwpm01.jpg)

You can find them here: http://whiteknightminiatureimperium.blogspot.com/search/label/All%20posts (http://whiteknightminiatureimperium.blogspot.com/search/label/All%20posts)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on October 05, 2011, 06:17:38 AM
Maybe this has been posted earlier but some big boats for Empire

http://ainstycastings.co.uk/index.php/cPath/63%5Burl%5D%5B/url%5D
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 05, 2011, 01:02:19 PM
Maybe this has been posted earlier but some big boats for Empire

I like big boats, and I can not lie.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on October 05, 2011, 01:23:25 PM
They look very well done. :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on October 08, 2011, 04:12:36 PM
I think these are fairly new - just seen them promoted by Warlord Games newsletter, though they say they are not selling them  :icon_question:  well yet as I assume they are a US company and I don't know if they have any UK or European resellers.


Oriental ?
(http://www.paymastergames.com//~stores/471704_preview.jpg)

Roman
(http://www.paymastergames.com//~stores/471705_preview.jpg)

Mayans
(http://www.paymastergames.com//~stores/471707_preview.jpg)

(http://www.paymastergames.com//~stores/471708_preview.jpg)

Polynesian
(http://www.paymastergames.com//~stores/471715_preview.jpg)


There are a few others ...........

http://www.paymastergames.com/Store.html

A size comparison for some of their models
(http://www.paymastergames.com/pictures1_038.JPG)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 17, 2011, 05:52:08 PM
http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/pages/page.php?Italian-crossbowmen-and-Scrapoli-186
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on October 17, 2011, 08:05:37 PM
I do like TAG stuff .....................

 :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 20, 2011, 03:26:53 AM
Not really related to Empire, but I just saw this figure, have no use for it, but just really want to paint it...

http://www.fantization.com/jabberwock-pathfinderx1fig.aspx

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on October 20, 2011, 10:26:38 AM
Magnificent miniature, Reaper do some real gems thats for sure.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: towishimp on October 21, 2011, 08:20:57 PM
Magnificent miniature, Reaper do some real gems thats for sure.

They definitely do.  They're my go-to company for character models.  Great models, and much cheaper than GW's.  The search feature on their site is awesome (and necessary, their range is huge!).
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 21, 2011, 10:26:02 PM
Yes, I think their search function/database is excellent. The local store has a huge wall of Reaper figures. But there's no real order to them, so any time I want to look for a figure, I have to spend an hour searching. In the case of my trip there this week, they didn't have either of the figures I was looking for.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: MiB on October 24, 2011, 04:02:02 PM
http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/pages/page.php?Italian-crossbowmen-and-Scrapoli-186

Liking those swordsmen a lot, think I know where my next batch is coming from
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on October 25, 2011, 03:30:23 PM
Two of those 4 swordsmen's shield's aren't round.

(GP ... aren't you the observant one today.)

Yep, but even my conscience doesn't know why the other two shields are as they're shown.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Hades on October 26, 2011, 03:47:21 AM
Many historical bucklers have quite funky shapes, you can see very similar bucklers in Achille Marozzo's Opera Nova, for instance:

http://wiktenauer.com/wiki/Opera_Nova_(Achille_Marozzo) (http://wiktenauer.com/wiki/Opera_Nova_(Achille_Marozzo))

(Images 15, 16, 19, 20, 22).

I think Paulus Kal takes the cake for odd bucklers, though:

http://wiktenauer.com/wiki/Paulus_Kal#Sword_and_Buckler (http://wiktenauer.com/wiki/Paulus_Kal#Sword_and_Buckler)

(You may need to click "Show" to open the Sword and Buckler section). 
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on October 26, 2011, 08:01:10 PM
Interestin stuff, thanks for posting! :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on November 01, 2011, 10:54:05 AM
Couple of new things I picked up from Northstar.

(http://www.crusaderpublishing.com/images/MCF001.jpg)

(http://www.crusaderpublishing.com/images/MCF010.jpg)

More pics and info here.

http://www.crusaderpublishing.com/



and then these may be a bit out, but I quite like the look of the sergeants:


(http://www.northstarfigures.com/images/img4056.jpg)

(http://www.northstarfigures.com/images/img4050.jpg)

(http://www.northstarfigures.com/images/img4069.jpg)


more info here ................

http://www.northstarfigures.com/list.php?man=123&page=1

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 01, 2011, 01:35:02 PM


Ha! I was going to send you a link to the Copplestone Louis XIV range since you liked those ones. It seems it's the same range, Northstar bought them.  :laugh:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on November 08, 2011, 02:06:29 PM
Can somebody tell me from which boxset these guys here are made?

http://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/fn/FN24.jpg (http://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/fn/FN24.jpg)

I know they are perry but I can´t find the box that has the models.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: MrDWhitey on November 08, 2011, 02:08:13 PM
I'm just gonna say "They're metal go away Fandir" and leave it at that. I may be right or wrong, but still, go away Fandir!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on November 08, 2011, 02:18:29 PM
But where is away? Your place?



And just to mock you some more

http://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/fn/FN27.jpg (http://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/fn/FN27.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on November 09, 2011, 11:00:43 AM
These - are the metals

http://www.perry-miniatures.com/product_info.php?cPath=23_28_54&products_id=1894

Not far off these plastics - if you could find some lance arms .........

http://www.perry-miniatures.com/product_info.php?cPath=22_62&products_id=1990
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on November 10, 2011, 10:31:28 PM
Have we already discussed these?

(http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/383350_301134896582086_218634441498799_1166657_210693519_n.jpg)

I saw the pic on Northstar and they are: 

New plastic Teutonic Knights coming to North Star soon from Fireforge Games.


http://www.fireforge-games.com/

http://www.fireforge-games.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=96:teutonic-knights-sculpting&Itemid=477#itemCommentsAnchor

(http://www.fireforge-games.com/media/k2/galleries/96/parts%20compo%2024052011.jpg)

(http://www.fireforge-games.com/media/k2/galleries/96/wip12052011%20assemblies%20b.jpg)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on November 11, 2011, 12:55:50 AM
We discussed them about a month or so ago, though they were still in sculpting at that time.  Does it say when they will be released?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Von Kurst on November 11, 2011, 03:38:27 AM
Its nice to have the photos posted though.  The old link didn't work on my home computer.  Thanks.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on November 11, 2011, 08:38:27 AM
They are looking very nice, super alternatives to rubbish empire knights
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on November 11, 2011, 11:26:10 AM
Interesting, two chaos knights and two bretonnian knights.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Wolfgang aus Wien on November 11, 2011, 01:11:25 PM
I've probably mentioned before that I like Black Tree Design as a GW substitute.
They don't offer a great deal of Renaissancy-looking 'Empire' people, but their Helsinians - and to some extent their Men of Averaign - do have some useable  models for Empire, not to mention the Ackland Accessory line for terrain/building pieces.
They have the same chunky, cartoonish look of Citadel models and the same 'heroic 28 mm' scale and rank up really well, especially with older Citadel models, whose look I happen to prefer over the newer, more Rackham-esque ones.
If I have a choice between $ 2.01 per plastic Bret Man-at-Arms or $ 1.78 per metal Man of Averaign, BTD wins.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on November 11, 2011, 02:02:31 PM
They are looking very nice, super alternatives to rubbish empire knights

Even better, they look like knights to be used in those medieval games you all cherish and love so much.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on November 11, 2011, 02:19:55 PM
Exactly. Like proper knights on horses that are a sensible size with armour they could actually carry  :dry:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Blue in vt on November 11, 2011, 04:04:59 PM
 :::cheers:::

These look awesome...any idea of price?  I'm not seeing details in the links posted above.

Blue
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on November 11, 2011, 04:16:03 PM
Exactly. Like proper knights on horses that are a sensible size with armour they could actually carry  :dry:

Except this forum has not medieval after the last dot...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on November 11, 2011, 05:14:09 PM
So.

If in the fluff they said they were super magical über horses then you might have a point, they even say they aren't as good as French, sorry Bretonian horses and they only carry cloth barding :p

Also, the empire horses are rubbish and you know it :p
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on November 11, 2011, 06:23:14 PM
Except this forum has not medieval after the last dot...

You are quite right for a change  :engel: - after the last dot it has  "COM"

I've probably mentioned before that I like Black Tree Design as a GW substitute.

I have spent money with BTD - their delivery schedules are awful, but I do think they are good value, and I always buy as a Premium member when they are offering sales discounts.
I have some of their Helsinian pikemen that do look very Bretonnian - i picked them up as a spot buy somewhere without knowing at the time where they were from - I think Donnachaidh identified them.
Most of my purchases have been from the historical side, but I have bought a few fantasy Saracens this year.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on November 11, 2011, 06:52:13 PM
Also, the empire horses are rubbish and you know it :p

You are so caught up in your GW hate that you mistake old ugly models with realism.

No biggie, when the new horses arrive from GW, it will set your GW on track.

And you know it.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on November 12, 2011, 07:56:45 AM
Most of my purchases have been from the historical side, but I have bought a few fantasy Saracens this year.

Were they Black tree fantasy saracens?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on November 12, 2011, 08:09:05 AM
Quote

No biggie, when the new horses arrive from GW, it will set your GW on track.

And you know it.

But when, dammit, when? More likely to see chaos dwarves before Empire Knights!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on November 12, 2011, 08:16:58 AM
Had a poke around in the Black tree catalogue and found the Saracens, some interesting bits in there, would want it all but definitely there are some elements that are worthy of collecting.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Wolfgang aus Wien on November 12, 2011, 01:29:44 PM
Currently using BTD Halflings and a Dwarf as Free Company.
It's true that BTD and fast shipping sometimes aren't in the same sentence, if you're like most gamers/collectors, you're not likely to suffer from a lack of things to paint anyway......
Another good line are Mirliton/Grenadier Umani (Humans...), they're a hair skinnier than GW, but still fit in well, and have exactly the late medieval/early Renaissance look I'm after.
I've always liked Grenadier models and while ordering from Italy is kind of expensive, I can't help but indulge every now and again.
Imho, their Dwarves, Undead and Wood Elves are easily among the best ever made.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on November 12, 2011, 04:52:43 PM
Were they Black tree fantasy saracens?

Yep - I have the makings of an Arabian Andalusian/Berbers/Moors army that I got mainly for WAB El Cid, but then I felt the need for a few elements to enable me to use it for Fantasy if I wanted so some Saracens with BIG wepaons for Greatswords/Halberdiers, and a few flying carpets ..........
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on November 14, 2011, 07:12:33 AM
That is exactly the kind of Caliphate army that floats my Dhow as well.
Ancient Caliphate list meets 'Arabian nights'.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Siberius on November 17, 2011, 06:59:14 PM
There's so many pages in here I can't look through the whole lot so I figured I'd just ask and hope someone has something in mind.

I want to build a spears regiment for my army, but I don't want them to look state-troopish. I want them to look like woodsmen. Reasonably wild woodsmen, though preferably clothed  :-P. I don't want them to look like they're of another time period or anything, but maybe something with celtic flavour or fairly generic woodsman feel will do. Ok, it's hard to explain but hopefully you have the gist.

Now the tough part. I'd prefer a plastic kit so they are cheap cheap cheap too! The more in there the merrier, but even if it's 20, that works cos you can double to 40 and be fine. Anywho, any ideas would be much appreciated. I'm not too worried about what weapons they have as I can always convert them to spears.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on November 17, 2011, 09:16:07 PM
Given you are in the US, I would probably look at the Wargames Factory Saxons and Vikings - there are two sorts  - basically armoured and unarmoured.
The bodies sprues are actually the same whether you get Saxons or Vikings - you will notice the heads are on the weapons sprues.

The only reservation might be the 'spears' and the arm positions - some of the weapons are more like javelins, and the arms are in the throwing pose.
The good bit (?) is that they are open hands and you can stick the weapon of choice.
However there aren't enough spears possibly so maybe buy/use some of the steel spears a lot of companies sell.

Saxon Weapons Sprue
(http://www.wargamesfactory.com/Images/saxon-sprue.jpg)

Viking Weapons Sprue
(http://www.wargamesfactory.com/Images/vikings_images01.jpg)


The main store page.
http://www.wargamesfactory.com/webstore/hammer-of-the-gods

The other options are Gripping Beast who also do Vikings and Saxons in plastics, but again the weapons mix will nee you to get extra spears - and then Perrys War of the Roses and Mercenaries sets but they tend to have a lot of bows, and halberds/polearms rather than spears.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Siberius on November 18, 2011, 07:03:06 PM
Midaski, I think you got it first time! I love these guys. And the price is hard to argue with. The spears shouldn't be a problem. I have some brass rod and have tried it before one time. If need be, I can make it work. Now that I see these guys, I'm tempted to get one box of unarmoured for my spears and maybe the huskarls to use as swordsmen (axemen)...

Those WSS horsemen look like they could be converted to pistoliers pretty easy too... I wonder...

Does the scale pretty much work out? I'm not super worried about a little difference, just maybe not LoTR different...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on November 19, 2011, 10:42:52 AM

They're very close - maybe a touch skinnier.

The main difference will be weapon size if you don't use all the brass rod spears. GW swords/axes are heroic, whereas all the stuff I linked to have pretty accurately scaled weapons.

I made a few brass rod attempts, but now use it only for banners or jail cell bars  :icon_wink:   getting a set of 40/50 for £5.00 already tipped neatly is saving so much hassle in my opinion.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on November 19, 2011, 12:44:36 PM
The present Empire knights look just like late 15th/early 16th century knights/heavy cavalry in full plate armour, with a sprinkling of fantasy to them. They wear armour that could have been worn in an army of the period.

The knights in those pics looks ok, for bleeding 12/13th century knights and for bretonnian Knights of the Realm. They are not Empireish in ANY way!  :ph34r:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Wolfgang aus Wien on November 19, 2011, 12:57:08 PM
Late 15th/early 16th century not Renaissance enough for ya?
Puzzling.
Be that as it may, I like to view my Empire in a more late Medieval/early Renaissance light and have absolutely no problem with mixing in some more Middle Ages type troops.
Perfectly plausible that some of the more traditional (or more backwards) areas of such a large realm wouldn't always sport the latest attire currently en vogue in Altdorf.....
Heck, there are plenty of reports written by French soldiers on campaign in Russia and French as well as British soldiers on campaign in Spain that they felt transported back in time to the Middle Ages in those places.
This was during the Napoleonic wars........
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Athiuen on November 20, 2011, 07:15:39 AM
Any more news on the mantic humans?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on November 20, 2011, 11:01:59 PM
An excellent quote from the SOE in Albania says they felt like they parachuted into the 14th century...

Anyway, further east in Europe it was common to see knights still wearing crusader armour in the 16th century and 15th century German knights were poor landsmen wearing handed down armour from the previous century.

I have no problem in seeing knights from a poorer province in out of date armour
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on November 21, 2011, 10:03:58 AM
Anyway, further east in Europe it was common to see knights still wearing crusader armour in the 16th century and 15th century German knights were poor landsmen wearing handed down armour from the previous century.


That sort of thing still happens today ...... I mean go to Yorkshire and you see lots of stuff London and the South East of England gave up using last century .............   :engel:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Prince Nuada on November 21, 2011, 11:51:53 AM
www.bitzbox.co.uk (http://www.bitzbox.co.uk) - this is my favourite!

www.bitzbarn.com (http://www.bitzbarn.com)

www.modelbits.co.uk (http://www.modelbits.co.uk)

www.maxmini.eu (http://www.maxmini.eu)

www.mrdandy.com (http://www.mrdandy.com)

www.kromlech.eu (http://www.kromlech.eu)

www.stores.ebay.com/Blood-and-Skulls-Industry?_rdc=1 (http://www.stores.ebay.com/Blood-and-Skulls-Industry?_rdc=1)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on November 21, 2011, 12:46:25 PM
Anyway, further east in Europe it was common to see knights still wearing crusader armour in the 16th century and 15th century German knights were poor landsmen wearing handed down armour from the previous century.


That sort of thing still happens today ...... I mean go to Yorkshire and you see lots of stuff London and the South East of England gave up using last century .............   :engel:

Yeah

Civility, politeness, manners, good sense, honesty...washing, eating with your mouth closed...  :biggriin:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on November 21, 2011, 03:07:41 PM
That sort of thing still happens today ...... I mean go to Yorkshire and you see lots of stuff London and the South East of England gave up using last century .............   :engel:

Yeah

Civility, politeness, manners, good sense, honesty...washing, eating with your mouth closed...  :biggriin:

Win.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on November 21, 2011, 03:59:53 PM
Yeah - Uryens    :eusa_clap:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 21, 2011, 06:31:39 PM
I have no idea about UK cultural geography, but that still made me laugh.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on November 21, 2011, 07:37:05 PM
It was a great reply and highlighted qualities I would like to believe exist all over ....

............................ but then I am reminded of something called a "Leeds United Football Fan"  :engel:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on November 22, 2011, 12:09:33 PM
It was a great reply and highlighted qualities I would like to believe exist all over ....

............................ but then I am reminded of something called a "Leeds United Football Fan"  :engel:

Its ok, even LUFC fans think they are a blight on humanity...they are like the Millwall of the the North...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Prince Nuada on November 22, 2011, 12:12:52 PM
Woo! Manchester United!  :happy:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on November 22, 2011, 12:32:06 PM
Foundry has released a greek mythology line (in addition to their greek heroes):

http://wargamesfoundry.com/historical_ranges/single_packs/ancients/greek_-_mythology/?sector_id=

Again, not entirely impressed.  The sculpting is so-so on lots of them, and many of the paintjobs don't help, especially on the centaurs...


Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Wolfgang aus Wien on November 22, 2011, 12:44:42 PM
When I was in England, I did like the north better - less crowded, friendlier, more nature, it seemed.
Looks like whenever they need a 'manly man' or 'down to earth' type character on British TV shows/movies, he or she is from Yorkshire or thereabouts.

Just for purposes of clarification:
'Traditional' and 'Backwards' aren't the same thing.
Traditional is voluntary, backwards is not.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 22, 2011, 01:40:23 PM
Foundry has released a greek mythology line (in addition to their greek heroes):

http://wargamesfoundry.com/historical_ranges/single_packs/ancients/greek_-_mythology/?sector_id=

Again, not entirely impressed.  The sculpting is so-so on lots of them, and many of the paintjobs don't help, especially on the centaurs...

Yeah, I'm not terribly impressed either.

I don't know if you, or anyone else who may be interested, has noticed, but in tiny print on the main Foundry web page they have an announcement about their new fantasy website:

http://www.foundryfantasy.com/

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on November 22, 2011, 02:10:01 PM
Slightly more realistic shipping costs...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: MiB on November 23, 2011, 01:29:32 AM
Not impressed by the Foundry Condottiere figures I've seen so far  :icon_sad:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on November 23, 2011, 06:40:07 AM
Foundry are drifting by the wayside, I can't see Brian Ansell getting his asking price for the business any time soon.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on November 23, 2011, 07:08:15 PM
Camel Cavalry.
Other than Gripping beast who else is out there offering something titillating for a chap putting together a list of Fantasy based Araby?
I am looking to build at least one unit of Camelry with minimum 8 models.
It's probably going to end up being two units with at least 8 models each, one with sword and shield and the other with spears.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: von Bildhofen on November 26, 2011, 06:38:06 PM
Here is some dromedarii, well not camels, but close

http://www.maelstromgames.co.uk/index.php?act=pro&pre=wld_act_rom_aux_603_000
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on November 26, 2011, 07:08:30 PM
Camels

Not got any of the Warlord ones, because I thought they looked a bit out of proportion to the riders - a bit thin.

I do have:

Black Tree in their historical Warriors of Islam range - decent size. My favourites of what I have bought and/or seen.

A&A do a variety - I think some in their Roman erange and others in their Palmyran - one sort has grooves on the camel to accept the matching rider legs, but it's fixable if you want to use your own riders.

Magister Militum do some - the unbarded ones are not good because the hump has no saddle, it's just a narrow dome, and the riders they supply look ridiculous perched on it.
They do have some fully barded ones that are much better ref: HO15 - Padre has some pictures up in his army reports I think.

I got some others from Northstar recently in a sale - an Italian company he was discontinuing because I got the impression they'd gone bust, but nothing special.










Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on November 27, 2011, 08:21:41 PM
Does anyone have any feedback on the Gripping Beast Camelry cav?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on November 27, 2011, 10:59:55 PM
I included one in a size comparison picture years ago:

(http://wk.frothersunite.com/imag/Horses5b.gif)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on November 28, 2011, 07:12:06 AM
They have some newer Camels with riders now as well in their range.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: cjp on November 28, 2011, 05:19:33 PM
A bunch more empire stand-in stuff coming from Ratnik via Lead Adventure:

(http://www.lead-adventure.com/images/bru-21.jpg)

(http://www.lead-adventure.com/images/bru-20.jpg)

(http://www.lead-adventure.com/images/bru-22.jpg)

(http://www.lead-adventure.com/images/bru-23.jpg)

(http://www.lead-adventure.com/images/bru-24.jpg)

(http://www.lead-adventure.com/images/bru-25.jpg)

(http://www.lead-adventure.com/images/bru-26.jpg)

(http://www.lead-adventure.com/images/bru-27.jpg)

(http://www.lead-adventure.com/images/bru-30.jpg)

(http://www.lead-adventure.com/images/bru-31.jpg)


Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on November 28, 2011, 05:23:47 PM
My bank balance has started to cry.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on November 28, 2011, 05:39:35 PM
Oh my... my pants... and wallet!  :Ohmy:

I have one of their minis, Dule Griet, and they are smashing! Them landsknechts, so sweet. And I love them priests. Thing is they would work in 40K too...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on November 28, 2011, 05:57:04 PM
Those are some mighty good looking miniatures there! :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: towishimp on November 28, 2011, 07:18:49 PM
Those warrior priests are great!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on November 28, 2011, 08:29:23 PM
The halberdiers are a bit special, liking them a lot.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on November 28, 2011, 10:07:32 PM
Camel Cavalry.

I am looking to build at least one unit of Camelry with minimum 8 models. It's probably going to end up being two units with at least 8 models each, one with sword and shield and the other with spears.

My Cam Cav in battle in during the A3 campaign:

(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/padrissimus/A3Battle5Pic4.jpg)

If you wanna see my Arabyan army on parade, then see the old Crisis in Marienburg post - http://www.marienburgcampaign.com/forum/index.php?topic=414.0

My camelry are Black Tree Designs, from their Feudal range. Go to 'Fuedal', then go to 'Warriors of Islam', and you should be ok from there. I love them.

Link which may work for you - http://www.blacktreedesign.com/uk/home.php?cat=2486
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on November 29, 2011, 03:47:58 PM
Padre, they do indeed look lovely, nice job mate. :icon_cool:

I have received my first three Black tree camel cavalry.  They came with a coiled length of wire that they obviously want me to make into three spears, is that how they came for you Padre ?

Also, Midaski, I ordered (and paid for) them (and a bunch of other models as well) last Thursday night and they all arrived in the post on Monday.
Why are you bleating about Black trees delivery service?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on November 29, 2011, 03:50:25 PM
http://www.grippingbeast.com/product.php?ItemID=148

These are £12 quid for two and the Black tree are currently cheaper than £9 quid for three.
Bit of a no brainer price wise but the GB camels do look nice.

Just ordered 9 more Black Tree camels, most of the spear options show the riders are in light armour. Very nice.

Padre, where did you get your Camel mounted musician ?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on November 29, 2011, 04:18:41 PM
Eunuchs ?

Anybody know where to find nice looking Eunuch models.?

I want a unit of Eunuchs in my Caliphate army.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on November 29, 2011, 05:55:35 PM
Padre, where did you get your Camel mounted musician ?
I believe it was possibly a Magister Militum one - I asked the same question.

http://www.navigatorminiatures.com/product.asp?numRecordPosition=4&P_ID=1490&strPageHistory=cat&strKeywords=&SearchFor=&PT_ID=235

However they do not have a picture so not certain - it was designed for a horse so it may not be a good fit.

OR

...... it could be a Perry one - from their Crusades Muslim range.

(http://www.perry-miniatures.com/oscthumb.php?src=YtagzcmV6KG7lMxko5Ca5dk.&w=540&h=315.514285714&f=jpg&q=95&hash=528682e6adab8972b278bc3829ed9baa)

http://www.perry-miniatures.com/index.php?cPath=23_33_53


Also - Have you looked at the Artizan Moors?








Eunuchs ?

Anybody know where to find nice looking Eunuch models.?

I want a unit of Eunuchs in my Caliphate army.

Apart form the obvious  :engel: ...... and I assume you will not be looking for naked models, what 'look' are you after?

Big fat bald guys like the Kislev Bear Tamer?

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: orcyboy on November 29, 2011, 06:12:51 PM

Also, Midaski, I ordered (and paid for) them (and a bunch of other models as well) last Thursday night and they all arrived in the post on Monday.
Why are you bleating about Black trees delivery service?

The last time I order from them (about 2 years ago) it took 6 months for them to deliver.  The complaints have died down as of late, so maybe they've gotten things in order now.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on November 29, 2011, 06:30:30 PM
I have received my first three Black tree camel cavalry.  They came with a coiled length of wire that they obviously want me to make into three spears, is that how they came for you Padre ?

Also, Midaski, I ordered (and paid for) them (and a bunch of other models as well) last Thursday night and they all arrived in the post on Monday.
Why are you bleating about Black trees delivery service?

The coiled wire is for you to make spears - they are still a bit 'old school'  :engel:

As to the delivery - I ordered 21 packs of Fantasy Saracens on the 13th August

First delivery sometime late in September had just 6 packs -

Second delivery at the end of October had 13 packs

Still waiting for the last 2 packs to arrive and it's 28th November ...........
They did actually send me a couple of free packs with the second delivery because of the delay

I think it depends on the range - they have an address in Cornwall, and they also have a tie-in with Grendel in Scotland, and they have the main accounting base in Texas.
I think Grendel spin the old Harlequin stuff for them - where the other ranges are made I am not sure.

 
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on November 30, 2011, 09:28:45 PM
I have received my first three Black tree camel cavalry.  They came with a coiled length of wire that they obviously want me to make into three spears, is that how they came for you Padre ?

I can't remember what they came with. I used brass rod bought from my local model shop (as I did with my pikemen too).

And yeah, the musician is from the Perry musician set, Midaski. I did not know it was, until I saw that pic of all the three figures that came in my set. (I bought them at a convention when I wasn't paying attention. Note to self - 'At convention pay attention!')  I loved that set, and posed all the models in several campaign photo stories.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on December 01, 2011, 06:59:14 AM
I think it depends on the range - they have an address in Cornwall, and they also have a tie-in with Grendel in Scotland, and they have the main accounting base in Texas.

The Cornish address is in Marazion which is very close to St Michaels mount, a few minutes out of Penzance along the beach front. I drove by once when i was on holiday but it was closed.
The accounting base in Texas is probably through the wife, she's a yank, nice lady with a big ole booty on her, a few years back at Salute, Black-tree were next to the Bolt Action Miniature stand where my mates were working and during pack up the 'big booty' bent over and knocked one of their expensive perspex display cylinders over, shattering it into a squillion bits. No save allowed. O_o

For spears I pay the extra and get the Perry metal spears, very sharp but straight as a dime.

I have a confession to make, after I asked the question about the Camelry drummer I then wandered off to dredge up my Caliphate 28mm models and I found a bunch of camel cavalry already there I had forgotten about and in it was the very same Perry model still in the blister,  :icon_rolleyes: oh dear... 

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on December 02, 2011, 07:18:24 AM
Lead Adventure is my second favorite miniature company - they simply rock.

Thanks for the pics.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Wolfgang aus Wien on December 02, 2011, 01:36:54 PM
Brass wire for spear shafts is "Old School' in the same way that a tree trunk for a spear shaft is 'Noo Skool'..........
Currently painting some plastic guys from the Weapons & Warriors series of toy boxes as City Guard (= Halberdiers).
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Blue in vt on December 02, 2011, 02:38:49 PM
Lead Adventure is my second favorite miniature company - they simply rock.

Thanks for the pics.

Agree completely...wonderful sculpts...and Ratnik in particular is one of my favorites...the dwarfs he has been previewing the last week or so over on LAF are just wonderful!

Cheers,

Blue
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on December 02, 2011, 08:03:47 PM

My Cam Cav in battle in during the A3 campaign:

(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/padrissimus/A3Battle5Pic4.jpg)


What was the A3 Campaign ?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Marek on December 03, 2011, 10:45:45 AM
Hmmm that Ratnik/LAF Archbishop is bit brilliant.


Can anyone recommend any good suppliers/ranges of wire trees? They are quite expensive for what they are, so I'd like any advice on offer before purchasing. Thanks.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 03, 2011, 05:47:15 PM
http://wargamesfoundry.com/historical_ranges/regiments/renaissance/any/condottiere_german_armoured_landsknecht_pikemen_regiment_brren518/?sector_id=

Can't tell if the figures are any good. Wish they showed them unpainted.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on December 03, 2011, 08:55:29 PM
I was looking at some of that stuff, and from what I could see, the landsknechts don't look like they are any nicer than the artizan ones, and at a higher cost...

24 artizan pikemen unit - 24.60 gbp
16 foundry pikemen unit - 25GBP (UK cost - higher for everyone else)

That's without any sort of sales...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 04, 2011, 12:11:25 AM
I agree.

Saw a comment on TMP that Foundry has pulled all the old Perry landsknecht sculpts. If so, that's a horrible shame -- they are beautiful figures.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on December 04, 2011, 02:23:06 AM
Why would they do that?  Do they have to pay royalties to the Perrys to sell their sculpts or something? 
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 04, 2011, 02:54:36 AM
I have absolutely no idea. I haven't even personally verified that its true (yet.)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on December 04, 2011, 04:06:23 AM
Yeah, its hard to see why a company would re-make a historical line unless they are going to make it arguably better.  It's not like in fantasy where fluff and settings change and evolve with time...

On the plus side, its nice to see their fantasy ranges expanding.  I'm not sold on lots of it, but at least its cool to see the options available.  I am a sucker for their mercenary orcs and ogres though  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on December 04, 2011, 11:22:56 AM
I believe Foundry does have an agreement where they have to pay royalties to the Perries.

Even so, replacing all those perfect sculpts with these new amateurish ones is an insult. I bought the Foundry Condotierre book and it's full of pics of the new ones that make me cringe every time I see them. Especially when they show some of the Perry ones on the same page. The puffy sleeve parts look like the conversions of someone who's new to greenstuff. 

The Artizan ones are vastly superior if you want to buy historical landsknechts.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on December 04, 2011, 05:23:55 PM
Indeed, Artizan is better for the historicals.

If you want fantasy ones, then the LAF halberds are far superior too!  Just somewhat more pricey...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on December 04, 2011, 10:51:14 PM
What was the A3 Campaign ?

Animosity 3, link = http://animositycampaigns.com/forum/ , or more specifically = http://animositycampaigns.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=44&sid=9f2bfe1dbae4b71c4656f6afb317717b
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Blue in vt on December 05, 2011, 02:55:51 AM
....then the LAF halberds are far superior too!  Just somewhat more pricey...

They are wonderful...but your right...they don't give them away do they!  :eusa_wall:

Blue
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on December 05, 2011, 11:51:56 AM
Just go with goblins...  :icon_wink:

(http://wk.frothersunite.com/misc/empire/ggroup02.jpg)

Find them here:
http://whiteknightminiatureimperium.blogspot.com/search/label/All%20posts (http://whiteknightminiatureimperium.blogspot.com/search/label/All%20posts)

And for a look at the original greens:
http://whiteknightminiatureimperium.blogspot.com/search/label/goblin%20core%20greens (http://whiteknightminiatureimperium.blogspot.com/search/label/goblin%20core%20greens)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on December 05, 2011, 12:00:32 PM
I had a wander around Foundry on Saturday whilst in Nottingham.
I did buy some blisters from their 'bargain bins' but even in the middle of all those racks of minis I wasn't over excited.

I too like Artizan very much, but I am also a TAG fan. I was looking for some weapons a whie back and Fr1day recommended them for that, and whilst I was ordering I added a couple of blisters of their Catholic and Protestant commands, and they really are nice.
Their images do not do the actual models justice either.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 05, 2011, 09:25:18 PM
Minor conversion to the bear -- get rid of the overtly chaos-y stuff, maybe some spike removal. Convert or replace the rider. I think its got a lot of potential for Empire or Kislev.

http://banelegions.maelstromgames.co.uk/?tag=bnl-020

 :-D

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 07, 2011, 03:06:07 AM
A solution to all those shoeless Empire soldiers! (http://progloriaminiatures.blogspot.com/2011/12/civilian-gallery.html) (Fourth photo from the top.)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on December 07, 2011, 03:27:15 AM
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-uWUqoe_Otws/Tt0g26PZiYI/AAAAAAAAAHg/kOO55gZwLWU/s1600/Regulator+04.jpg)

Looks like they are on their way to Stirland already!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on December 07, 2011, 03:33:00 AM
Some great work on those figures! :icon_cool: :eusa_clap:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on December 07, 2011, 04:33:43 PM

It would appear Warlord Games have bought or taken over Immortal Miniatures.

Seems reasonable - both make plastics through Renedra - both have ancients.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 07, 2011, 05:35:33 PM
Looks like they are on their way to Stirland already!

LOL! Good call, didn't think of that.  :eusa_clap:




It would appear Warlord Games have bought or taken over Immortal Miniatures.

Seems reasonable - both make plastics through Renedra - both have ancients.

I just read that. I've heard a lot of grumbling about customer service from Immortal. If I understand correctly, I think the owner had other commitments that kept him away from the business. Maybe this will be good for everyone.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on December 07, 2011, 07:07:45 PM
Interesting.  I purchased a box of the Athenian Greeks that Immortal Miniatures has made and gave them as a gift.  They were quite good!

So far I've resisted purchasing some for myself, and hopefully Warlord will continue making them available.

And thanks for posting the info! :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: MiB on December 07, 2011, 09:17:57 PM
I really hope this means plastic Persians soon, the Immortal miniatures guy was supposed to be working on these.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on December 08, 2011, 03:25:27 PM
With 40k coming back to WE lately what do you guys think about scibor minis?

http://sciborminiatures.com/en_,shop.php?art=1120#i/conversion_parts_2011/big/archangel_01.jpg (http://sciborminiatures.com/en_,shop.php?art=1120#i/conversion_parts_2011/big/archangel_01.jpg)

http://sciborminiatures.com/pow.php?absol=1&co=i/2011/big/angel_knight_01.jpg (http://sciborminiatures.com/pow.php?absol=1&co=i/2011/big/angel_knight_01.jpg)

And should the Taurus for Chaos Dwarves come.....this would be the Model I would use.

http://sciborminiatures.com/pow.php?absol=1&co=i/2011/big/war_bull_painted_01.jpg (http://sciborminiatures.com/pow.php?absol=1&co=i/2011/big/war_bull_painted_01.jpg)


 :ph34r:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 08, 2011, 05:46:21 PM
My own personal opinion...

I think his 40k stuff takes the worst of GW 40k and blows cranks it up on steroids making it exceptionally horrible.

Look at the guy in the first link. As soon as he lifts his arms up he's going to crush his own head between those ridiculous shoulder pads. And is that a winged turtle on his chest? There are so many stacked layers of stuff on top of stuff on top of stuff that it's a compositional clutter.

A lot of the fantasy stuff, on the other hand, is pretty good. The dwarfs, the plague snail thing, men at arms, etc. Some of it's got some real character.

That's all opinion. I know I'm not really allowed to have an opinion (see also: inbred hillbilly halflings,) but you asked.  :wink:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on December 08, 2011, 09:39:05 PM
Yep, that chest armor on the first one looks over done.

And the guy resting on his sheild, uh boy, if he's suppose to be a Space Marine, then he'd be holding his shield.

At first glance the composition does seem a bit busy, but maybe it just takes some getting adjusted to it.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on December 09, 2011, 01:00:47 PM
The 40K stuff is beautifully sculpted, better than the GW 40K stuff and that is high praise indeed.

Edited as mild but unjustifiable personal attack

But that Scibor 40K stuff is superbly sculpted. That is beyond contestation. Love them or loathe them they are really well made indeed. I bet it isn't cheap.  :icon_eek: Thats the nature of quality though, it tends to come at a price.

The fantasy models are lovely too.
That Taurus is just awesome, what a powerful looking and scary beast, fantastic paint job abd photography too.
Both sets of Dwarves are very nice. I love the way they are heavy stylised so they stand aside as Scibor creations rather than a 'copy' of a well known generic option.
I'm a big fan of the Westwind Dwarves which have their own style but these Scibor options are very very nice, lovely sculpting.
Great work all round.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Wolfgang aus Wien on December 09, 2011, 01:19:20 PM
C'mon, gents.
Armor and weaponry that is more likely to injure the owner than any opponent is part and parcel of the GW formula....
More recently, Reaper and Rackham have done some nice work in those areas also. 8-)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 10, 2011, 03:25:16 PM
More new figures from Pro Gloria

http://progloriaminiatures.blogspot.com/2011/12/long-awaited-news-pre-view-for-second.html

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on December 10, 2011, 03:30:43 PM
More new figures from Pro Gloria

http://progloriaminiatures.blogspot.com/2011/12/long-awaited-news-pre-view-for-second.html


I like the guys playing dice!

Unit filler.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 10, 2011, 04:21:21 PM

I like the guys playing dice!

Unit filler.


I like them all. I also think the hunting group could make a good unit filler -- put them behind a general on foot.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on December 11, 2011, 10:14:13 AM
I'm liking the peasants, very rustic simple and honest just as it should be, nice.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on December 11, 2011, 05:16:16 PM
Just found Four A miniatures today, their goblins are very nice, done by kev adams.

Catalog: http://www.fouraminiatures.com/page2.htm

Also, I found something for Rufus:

(http://www.fouraminiatures.com/USERIMAGES/100_2297.JPG)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: FR1DAY on December 11, 2011, 07:31:28 PM
Cuttle fish cultists
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on December 11, 2011, 10:46:04 PM
Mind flayers
Excellent, long overdue.  :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on December 12, 2011, 11:14:31 AM
I like the squidheads!

They could be 40K inquisitorial psykers for the Ordo Xenos.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: patsy02 on December 12, 2011, 11:56:48 AM
Why not Zoidberg?
(http://newbadgerman.xomba.com/sites/xomba.com/files/dr_zoidberg.gif)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on December 13, 2011, 01:31:23 PM
More new figures from Pro Gloria

http://progloriaminiatures.blogspot.com/2011/12/long-awaited-news-pre-view-for-second.html
These are outstanding!  Thanks for posting! :icon_cool: :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on December 16, 2011, 04:45:16 AM
Seemingly a new single mini from Warlord ...

http://store.warlordgames.com/lord-leven-covenanter-lord-general-7814-p.asp

I like it for possible use as an Imperial Noble for the Empire of Wolves list, and I've ordered one.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on December 16, 2011, 02:13:01 PM
Very nice miniature.
The horse is particularly good.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on December 16, 2011, 04:11:26 PM
Mantic should really find people to paint their minis better those look unpainted really good

(http://www.w6-tabletop.at/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/mantic-zombies-2.jpg)

And Snotlings are always nice

(http://www.w6-tabletop.at/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Mantic-Games-Orclings-Small.jpg)

Mantic games Orklings.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on December 17, 2011, 10:13:39 PM
Those Undead are fantastic  :mrgreen: :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on December 18, 2011, 01:04:09 AM
Those Undead are fantastic  :mrgreen: :::cheers:::

Mantic games undead - their zombies and skeletons specifically - are the best available, and the cost of them makes them astonishing.

Which is all the weirder for the fact that the rest of Mantics stuff is utterly dire.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Erik Von Karlson on December 18, 2011, 04:24:14 AM
New Perr WotR due to be out at the end of January

http://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/workbench/tipping_cart.jpg

http://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/workbench/open_sided_cart.jpg

http://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/workbench/labourers.jpg

http://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/workbench/casualties.jpg
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 18, 2011, 05:45:07 AM
New Perr WotR due to be out at the end of January

Love it all!

their zombies and skeletons specifically - are the best available, and the cost of them makes them astonishing.

I think those two kits are better than their GW equivalents.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gwyddyon on December 19, 2011, 02:27:49 AM
I may as well just have my paychecks deposited straight into the Perrys' account at this rate.  I also seem to be in danger of ordering more Perry carts, pack animals, and civilians than actual soldiers...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on December 20, 2011, 06:24:18 AM
Those Undead are fantastic  :mrgreen: :::cheers:::

Mantic games undead - their zombies and skeletons specifically - are the best available, and the cost of them makes them astonishing.

Which is all the weirder for the fact that the rest of Mantics stuff is utterly dire.

I'm not enamoured with their Elves but then I am yet to see any Elves I particularly like outside of the LotR range (and those are too small), difficult race to capture the essence of in a miniature.
I do like the Mantic chaos dwarves and their Orcs are very nice however the undead are indeed the pick of the bunch, they are sensational.

Those Perry casualties are excellent sculpts.
Love the horse but don't think much of the carts at all.  Wheels are nice but the carts are pretty average. Must wait to see the final product finished and painted.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on December 20, 2011, 06:45:57 AM
Very sweet sculpts indeed!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on December 20, 2011, 01:07:41 PM
Perry Miniatures consistently produces excellent figures.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on December 20, 2011, 02:26:53 PM
http://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/workbench/tipping_cart.jpg

"Complete with three corpses."

Ha!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on December 21, 2011, 11:00:34 AM
Perry Miniatures consistently produces excellent figures.

25 years and couinting...  :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Athiuen on December 22, 2011, 07:26:34 AM
Still waiting for Mantic Humans....

Man I so want to get a huge 60 man unit of artizan pikes but I usually play at my local GW, since the nearest non-GW club is like 30 mins away (which I realise is not a long way for some people, but I live in the middle of a city and everything is close). 

I think I'll just wait till march or april when the next Empire book comes out and see if they put them back in.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on December 22, 2011, 09:12:02 AM
Get some Artizan figures, stick em on the table at the GW store. If anyone complains tell them they are GW Dogs of War pikemen...I bet no one at the store will know what they really look like, and if they did they'd not say anything ;)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Athiuen on December 22, 2011, 09:15:56 AM
Get some Artizan figures, stick em on the table at the GW store. If anyone complains tell them they are GW Dogs of War pikemen...I bet no one at the store will know what they really look like, and if they did they'd not say anything ;)

The guys working at my store are pretty sharp and they know me and my army pretty well.  Unfortunately this is not an option.  Plus you can't play pikemen at GW stores since there are no rules for them... Sigh.  Time to suck it up and drive 30 mins for my games.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on December 22, 2011, 01:53:56 PM
I think I'll just wait till march or april when the next Empire book comes out and see if they put them back in.
Has this been confirmed?

By the way, pikeman could be used as spears.  If somebody complains, they're being stupid.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Athiuen on December 22, 2011, 11:40:12 PM
It's not confirmed but it's a fairly solid rumor that we're after Vampire counts.  So I figure if VC are in Jan/Feb then empire could well be in mar/april.  Anyway I'm kind of just hoping.


The other problem is that I don't want spears.  I already have 50 halberds and 50 swords.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on December 23, 2011, 07:45:26 AM
http://www.fireforge-games.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=21&category_id=1&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=95&vmcchk=1&Itemid=95

Have these been mentioned yet?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on December 23, 2011, 08:43:52 AM

Yeah - top of page 33 with a picture ...........

I'm waiting for a UK stockist and some discount.   :engel:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on December 23, 2011, 08:57:11 AM
It is the one problem with this thread...35 pages in and I cant remember whats been posted  :unsure:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on December 23, 2011, 09:33:13 AM
It is the one problem with this thread...35 pages in and I cant remember whats been posted  :unsure:

Amateur - just where is your dedication ...............  :engel:

Homework over Christmas is to revise and learn exactly what is on what page - test on New Year's Day

 :closed-eyes:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on December 23, 2011, 09:40:24 AM
Tell you what, if you set the test, I'll sit it... :biggriin:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on December 23, 2011, 11:03:23 AM
Tell you what, if you set the test, I'll sit it... :biggriin:

I'm glad I wasn't drunk when I tired to read that .......................  :engel:

Actually I am really looking forward to next year ................. WK's Dwarfs and Gobbo bodies on order  ........ those Teutonic Knights, .................... and Crusader have some new metal 'crusader' minis ............. Conquest Games Norman Infantry ......................... Wargames Factory Samurai, Ashigaru, and Cavalry ................ the SAGA expansion ....................... Lead Adventures landsknechts ......................Salute ......................  the Eurobash .........



Damn why can't Christmas be over with already .....................  :engel:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on December 25, 2011, 10:58:52 AM
Won't be long before 'Salute' is on us again.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on December 25, 2011, 02:43:14 PM
It's not confirmed but it's a fairly solid rumor that we're after Vampire counts.  So I figure if VC are in Jan/Feb then empire could well be in mar/april.  Anyway I'm kind of just hoping.
This probably isn't the thread for this, but what happened to redoing Brets?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Sir Bedevere the Wise on December 25, 2011, 08:57:37 PM
Hello gentlemen.

I would like to pop in from the real life to bring your attention to cooperation between Warlord games, Empress miniatures and 4ground designs. These companies produced rather interesting sets concerning Anglo Zulu war. Couple of months ago, a new whole-diorama-in-a-box was announced depicting the defence of Rorke's Drift, containg two wooden models of buildings, lots of resin barricades and some British soldiers and Zulu warriors.
http://store.warlordgames.com/rorkes-drift-7561-p.asp
Using my knowledge of Santas suspicious interest in little children, basic photoshopping skills and shameless blackmail (and paying half of the cost) I have received the Horns of the Buffalo set for Christmas. If anyone is interested, I will post pictures of sprues of both main contestants.

(http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af109/Pavol_stuff/scan0002.jpg)
Imperial Redcoats

(http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af109/Pavol_stuff/scan0001.jpg)
and Zulu impis

I will hapily provide other feedback if anyone is interested (though I am afraid I will not glue and paint it in near future. I mean the whole package weights slightly more than 7 kg. It is a lot of models)

Regards,

Bedevere
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Silver Wolf on December 25, 2011, 10:18:14 PM
Hi people!
I have a question and it might be a bit off topic, but it's still close enough...

The question is...
Are there any good (and cheaper) alternatives for citadel static grass?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 25, 2011, 11:45:11 PM
Woodland Scenics
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: patsy02 on December 26, 2011, 11:00:10 PM
They are coincidentally also a cheaper alternative to Citadel Everything Else.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on December 29, 2011, 02:35:06 AM
I was considering picking up the foundry Condottiere book while it is half price before their clearance sale ends on Jan 3.

Does anyone know if its a standalone rulebook, or will I need another ruleset if I am to play games from it?

http://wargamesfoundry.com/books/wargames_rule_book/any/any/condottiere_the_dogs_of_war_fp024/?sector_id=
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on December 29, 2011, 09:47:10 AM
It's a standalone book, but it's not so well edited and it features a lot of their newer (crappy) figures which kind of ruins it for me as they make me cringe when I look at them and they're on almost every page.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on December 29, 2011, 11:47:01 AM
I must admit I bought the Compendium, and the Dallimore Painting (& Modelling) Books in their one-day-only sales before Christmas, when they were below half price and for what I paid they're ok.
The Compendium has some interesting stuff for £6.00  :biggriin:

I quite like the painting books as, although I will not be buying the "sets of 3" paints, there are a lot of stage by stage large pictures that show good details.

I have not been tempted by any of the Condottiere stuff yet and doubt I will be - the TAG Italian stuff looks much better IMO.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on December 29, 2011, 12:01:15 PM
I was thinking of giving a few of their palettes a try, mainly some of the different flesh tones.  I seem to get pretty good triads from GW colours.  I too got the compendium and painting books  :blush:

Is the background information useful in the condottiere book?  I dont want any of the models, but I thought it might be of use for empire/DoW background ideas and such.  Is it worth the $25 at half price?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on December 29, 2011, 12:07:11 PM
I'd have thought you'd do better with an Osprey book.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on December 30, 2011, 04:45:14 PM
Osprey are fabulous, but... you would need  a few of them and they are for keeps, because they are not cheap. For quality though, unsurpassed...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: MiB on December 30, 2011, 06:11:55 PM


Is the background information useful in the condottiere book?  I dont want any of the models, but I thought it might be of use for empire/DoW background ideas and such.  Is it worth the $25 at half price?

*pimps the Tilea project, link in sig*  :biggriin:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on December 30, 2011, 07:10:54 PM


Is the background information useful in the condottiere book?  I dont want any of the models, but I thought it might be of use for empire/DoW background ideas and such.  Is it worth the $25 at half price?

*pimps the Tilea project, link in sig*  :biggriin:

Your link is broken... domain expired  :engel:

The Osprey books are pretty cool.  I managed to download a large amount of them a while ago, had a perusal through some...  not enough time to read them all.  If anyone is interested in any of them...  :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on December 30, 2011, 08:39:26 PM
Link works for me.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on December 30, 2011, 10:10:15 PM
More info on ............

(http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/383350_301134896582086_218634441498799_1166657_210693519_n.jpg)


(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/389955_334081299954112_218634441498799_1264788_844689919_n.jpg)


This set will allow you to build 12 knights and their horses. Here is the details:

Horses - Horse bodies are split in two parts. There are two different left sides and two different right sides that are totally mixable with each other to obtain different poses. Three different heads and two tails, compatible with every horse body version, complete the horse sections. Without considering the tails, you'll be able to build 12 totally different horses.

Knight Heads - 10 different heads in two sections for a total of 20 heads in the set, of which 12 are with "decorated helmets" and 8 "not decorated". Some of the "decorated helmets" types were sculpted with easy cut off option in mind for people wanting to build only not "decorated" ones.

Knight Bodies and Cloaks - 4 different knight bodies and 4 different cloaks for a total of 12 bodies and cloaks in the set. Cloaks are not attached to the bodies, so you can build knights without them too.

Weapons - 4 different right arms armed with spears, 2 with swords, 1 axe, 1 mace and 1 morning star. Three weapon sections for a total of 12 spears, 6 swords, 3 axes, 3 maces and 3 morning star in the set.

Shields - 3 different heater shields with left arms attached and 3 different heater shields with left arms not attached. There are three shield sections for a total of 18 heater shields in the box.

Various - Cross standard, right arm with a horn (musician), 4 different sculpted standards/flags and several bits of rectangular plate pieces as a reinforced armour option to shoulders.

Looks like the UK retail will be £20.00

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on December 30, 2011, 11:41:16 PM
Looks like a very good alternative for Bretonnians.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: towishimp on December 30, 2011, 11:55:07 PM
I'm thinking of using them as cavaliers in my Dogs of War army, representing knights from the border princes area, or maybe down-on-their-luck Brettonian knights.  They look really nice, and pretty dang good price point.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on December 31, 2011, 03:50:37 AM
Nice looking knights!  Any idea on a release date?

I would probably wait for the perry knights to be released though  :smile2:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on December 31, 2011, 09:22:08 AM
From the picture it looks like you can make two chaos knights and two Bretonnian knights, with that kind of variation the only hindrance in getting good sales will be the retail price.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on December 31, 2011, 10:57:08 AM
You get 3 sprues per box JN - so 12 knights for your £20.00 and that may be 10% lower from some of the distributors.
12 seems to be the common number in non-GW plastic cavalry and Warlord Games are at £18.00 a box, along with Conquest Games Normans, and Wargames Factory at £16.50 currently, so the price has probably been set to be maintained for all of 2012.

They are expected to be in the UK end of January - you could pre-order from Italy, but ...................... it's Italy.  :engel:

I too am waiting for the Perry WotR ones, but I suspect they will have a different 'feel/look' so there will be room for both - probably   :closed-eyes:


Hell who am I kidding - we all know I will get both  :engel:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on December 31, 2011, 03:50:11 PM
Bestest halfling wizard ever
(http://www.hfmodeling.com/photos/news/7047/_connor.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on December 31, 2011, 04:00:50 PM
Maybe for Dystopian Wars and the Steam Punk period of Victorian times but not for the medieval period I'm afraid.
Nice sculpting though.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Prince Nuada on December 31, 2011, 04:19:41 PM
He looks like one of the doctors (Dr Who).
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on December 31, 2011, 05:10:40 PM
Thats a good point, it doesn't hurt the figure at all that it has an immaculate quality paint job.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: patsy02 on December 31, 2011, 05:50:03 PM
Nonsense, plop on a disproportionately huge feathered hat and you have yourself an imperial halfling.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on January 02, 2012, 09:00:45 PM
Nonsense, plop on a disproportionately huge feathered hat and you have yourself an imperial halfling.
Better yet hang it off his penny farthing Lol
 :icon_rolleyes:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Wolfsgaum on January 03, 2012, 01:54:03 AM
I don't know. He looks right at home in Middle Earth.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on January 03, 2012, 09:39:56 AM
It's a nice sculpt and the painting is stellar but why does it have a lemon hanging off its belt?
And why is it wearing a late style embroidered flat cap?
Flat caps were almost universally worn in the 19th century by working class men throughout Britain and Ireland, and versions in finer cloth were also considered to be 'suitable casual countryside wear' for upper-class English men (hence the contemporary alternative name golf cap).
Flat caps were worn by fashionable young men in the 1920s.
Hence my reason for pointing to the steam punk and dystopian war genre.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on January 04, 2012, 10:51:14 PM
Osprey are fabulous, but... you would need  a few of them and they are for keeps, because they are not cheap. For quality though, unsurpassed...
I buy Osprey used.  There are used book stores, and particularly those that specialize in selling military ones, the Osprey books can be found for half the retail price, and usually in very good shape often almost new.

- - - - - - - -

By the way ... who makes the halfling?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on January 05, 2012, 12:18:53 PM
Hello gentlemen.

I would like to pop in from the real life to bring your attention to cooperation between Warlord games, Empress miniatures and 4ground designs. These companies produced rather interesting sets concerning Anglo Zulu war. Couple of months ago, a new whole-diorama-in-a-box was announced depicting the defence of Rorke's Drift, containg two wooden models of buildings, lots of resin barricades and some British soldiers and Zulu warriors.
http://store.warlordgames.com/rorkes-drift-7561-p.asp...

The MDF buildings are fantastic. The quality of the production and the attention to detail is the best I have seen for laser cut MDF to date.

You can buy them from their website www.4ground.co.uk/ (http://www.4ground.co.uk/)

I have almost finished the barn, but WIP pictures of the farmhouse and the walls I took to show a mate of mine the scale of them...
(http://www.napoleonicassociation.org/RD_02.jpg)
With Perry Napoleonic British

(http://www.napoleonicassociation.org/RD_01.jpg)
Farmhouse interior - Coppleston Future Wars rebels assaulted by Foundry Street Violence SWAT team.

Talking to them, the next product released will be timber framed Tudor houses. I saw the prototypes last year of the first one which he had scaled for 15mm, 20mm, and 28mm.

I am very much looking forward to what they will be producing in the future.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on January 05, 2012, 05:04:22 PM
I like how that building complex can be used for different eras. :icon_cool:

The set of buildings, walls, and extras looks to be about $169, without the Warlord Games figures.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on January 06, 2012, 12:35:40 PM
Where are the skulz?  I'm suffering from skulz deprivation Lol  :icon_mrgreen:

Seriously, very nice indeed, thanks for posting, I am looking forward to seeing what they come out with for an older period. I'd be up for buying some of that  :icon_wink:.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 06, 2012, 03:00:10 PM
Where are the skulz?  I'm suffering from skulz deprivation Lol  :icon_mrgreen:

 :eusa_clap:

I hear Queen Victoria was big on the blood sacrifices & sat on a skull throne.


Talking to them, the next product released will be timber framed Tudor houses. I saw the prototypes last year of the first one which he had scaled for 15mm, 20mm, and 28mm.

Looking forward to that as well!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on January 06, 2012, 06:16:23 PM
Foundry has their new ruleset "Tribes of Legend" up for preorder.  Anyone hear whether the game will be entertaining at all?

http://wargamesfoundry.com/books/wargames_rule_book/any/any/tribes_of_legend_fp026/

I might consider it next time they decide to list it at 50% off  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on January 08, 2012, 08:36:52 PM
Talking to them, the next product released will be timber framed Tudor houses. I saw the prototypes last year of the first one which he had scaled for 15mm, 20mm, and 28mm.

Looking forward to that as well!

Just had a look on their website and they are up..!
(http://www.4ground.co.uk/ProductImages/ceddefa6-6afc-4e7e-88ef-ea30f6e7469e_lightboxLarge.jpg)
£10 each and 5 variations
www.4ground.co.uk/Default.aspx?page=262 (http://www.4ground.co.uk/Default.aspx?page=262)

They look to have interiors as well
(http://www.4ground.co.uk/ProductImages/594ec4ac-fd9a-41d5-b7e9-94dce7edd5da_lightboxLarge.jpg)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 09, 2012, 04:33:51 AM
Very nice, and a good price too if it's not a hassle to get them in the US.

My only concern is that the timber bits will be flush with the stucco infill. The roof tiles are also a bit flat compared to resin buildings, but I could probably live with that and/or cover the roof with my own 3d tiles/shingles/shakes/thatch/whatever.


edit: Assuming that I order more than £30 worth of stuff, it's £10 shipping. I'd probably get the set of 5, so that might not be too bad. Maybe get a couple guys to place an order together. UK shipping is sweet, as anything over £30 is free.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on January 09, 2012, 08:49:52 AM
If folk have the ability to look after them and keep them in nice condition then £10 a pop is cheap for that kind of visual quality
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on January 09, 2012, 10:59:16 AM
My only concern is that the timber bits will be flush with the stucco infill. The roof tiles are also a bit flat compared to resin buildings, but I could probably live with that and/or cover the roof with my own 3d tiles/shingles/shakes/thatch/whatever.

I have some "teddy bear" fir to try a thatched roof with, but I have not gotten round to it yet.

I want to try a pantiled roof, but the only decent plastic card pantiles I have found are 00 scale. Some not as nice O scale ones are availablewhich I may turn to.

The roof tiles are a bit like paving stones. They are usable, but you can do better with your own tiles or thatch

The wooden beams (if like Rorkes Drift) are very well delimited so they do not just blend in to the rendered walls. The exposed brick and wood is etched well, and the border is etched deep. There is certainly enough depthl to enable dry brushing. to pick out the detail.

They also got a pot of "render" on the site. I was looking at DIY products to add render to the walls myself ut I may give this a go - after I pay the vets bills
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 09, 2012, 02:50:53 PM
I have some "teddy bear" fir to try a thatched roof with, but I have not gotten round to it yet.

I want to try a pantiled roof, but the only decent plastic card pantiles I have found are 00 scale. Some not as nice O scale ones are availablewhich I may turn to.


I've been wanting to try the teddy bear fur trick. I did have pretty good luck with using some putty and sculpting some thatch.

http://zerotwentythree.blogspot.com/2011/10/thatching.html

My first thought, though, is simple shingles/shakes made from thin card scavenged from a cereal or cracker box.


As far as their "render," you might also check an art.craft store for  textured acrylic gels. Sounds like the same thing.

http://www.goldenpaints.com/products/medsadds/gels/gels.php

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on January 09, 2012, 03:01:36 PM
Bestest halfling wizard ever
http://www.hfmodeling.com/photos/news/7047/_connor.jpg (http://www.hfmodeling.com/photos/news/7047/_connor.jpg)

Inquisitor Oskar Hollowhill.

40K!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: FR1DAY on January 09, 2012, 04:06:48 PM
I'd imagine he'd have an enormous combat servitor to back him up!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on January 09, 2012, 07:58:31 PM
I seem to recall a lot of people drooling over Mantic's Undead - and as no-one reads stickies ................ well Northstar have some on offer, so check the Special Offers sticky for the link.

 :closed-eyes:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Johnny-Crass on January 09, 2012, 08:05:25 PM
Mantics undead look horrid IMO.  Wait let me rephrase, Mantic MODELS look horrible IMO

I am surprised no BaneLegions or BaneBeasts have popped up yet
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on January 10, 2012, 02:17:18 PM
I seem to recall a lot of people drooling over Mantic's Undead - and as no-one reads stickies ................ well Northstar have some on offer, so check the Special Offers sticky for the link.

 :closed-eyes:

The Mantic Undead are selling unbelievably quickly for a small company, but I guess without all the retail overheads they can afford the killer pricing structures they are delivering. Interesting to note they blend in well with the GW Undead as well.
Poor old GW have dropped the ball with their VC undead.
They used to be #9-10 years ago but the last 2 editions of VC Undead have got it mostly wrong. Especially in the ghouls and zombies where Mantic have stolen a march.
I still have not bought the Mantic Undead because my flavour of Undead is one that GW still do very well and that is the Tomb Kings. Still can't go past GW for a good dead gyppo.
Tomb Guard are static but I don't care, they are lovely models.
That sphinx monstrosity though, what a load of kaka.
I'm yet to see anyone do better TK Undead than GW and that includes Croc Games
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on January 10, 2012, 02:31:01 PM
Quote from: FR1DAY
I'd imagine he'd have an enormous combat servitor to back him up!

I'm thinking robot spider.

Also, 'special' hobbit pipe weed = psychotroke grenades.



I seem to recall a lot of people drooling over Mantic's Undead - and as no-one reads stickies ................ well Northstar have some on offer, so check the Special Offers sticky for the link.

I ordered some because they were cheap, and I don't want to pay much for skeletons. If they are rubbish I will of course be blaming you!

Ha ha.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on January 11, 2012, 01:15:23 PM
Damn Mantic are picking up pace...their Cadians are pretty nice too.

http://www.manticgames.com/Shop-Home/Warpath/Corporation/Product/Corporation-Armoured-Division-Ultimate-Deal-148-Figures.html (http://www.manticgames.com/Shop-Home/Warpath/Corporation/Product/Corporation-Armoured-Division-Ultimate-Deal-148-Figures.html)

At 150 $ for around 120 models including 15 heavy weapon teams it becomes even nicer.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 11, 2012, 04:57:25 PM
Those really are good so far.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on January 11, 2012, 05:05:46 PM
O_o  Aye Carumba, why are they wasting that quality on CADIANS !!! Graaaahhhhh
More attentions on the SQUATS please...

But seriously... 148 models for $150.00, who is going to buy GW anymore? 
How many weapons teams?
Those boys at Mantic are bloody smart, but then they are ex GW and they were with GW for a long time. I'm still waiting for the three Dungeon box sets to come through, cant wait much longer, getting streeeesssed.
That 40k Kak will sell like bloody hot cakes.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on January 11, 2012, 05:53:35 PM
Wow, those pics do look very nice.  Although I will say its easier to do humans well as there is pretty much the same expectation across the board to how we should look.  I bet those will sell very well if the rest of the troops turn out nice.

Otherwise, Crusader miniatures have their rulebooks on sale for the next week or so, 50% off or greater:
http://www.crusaderminiatures.com/list.php?cat=2&page=1

I was considering getting the ancients/medieval books to try out at some point.  Read a few reviews saying they are pretty streamlined, simple rules which appeals to me.  Anyone tried the Crusader rules, or hear anything good/bad about them?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 11, 2012, 06:25:16 PM
I own Crusader's ancients rules ("Crusader") but have not had a chance to play them. I do like them, though. Not too far off the Warhammer model, but with some changes that I've always wanted to see (d10, combining toughness and armor into one resistance test, etc.)

He has a playtest copy of fantasy rules up on the web page too. Downloaded them but haven't had time to read yet.


As far as those Mantic humans,, I think they look better than the Cadians. Plus they are generic enough for non 40k use. If they turn out as good as they look so far, they may be my first Mantic purchase.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on January 11, 2012, 11:00:19 PM
Cool, perhaps I will give the crusader rules a try - at least in theory.  The reviews I read stressed their streamlined simplicity, which seems like a bonus to trick/recruit new players.

You have to hand it to Mantic, they seem to at least have good presentation of their releases.  Comparing the Mantic humans to the Wargames factory shock troops release - I like the idea of the preorders and army deals, and that they are planning to release several sets at once rather than the basic troops and then heavy weapons teams what, like a year later?

Now, how will the mantic fantasy humans look?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on January 11, 2012, 11:15:01 PM
Nice mantic figs. Maybe they shall produce some footknights, you never have enough of those. But that is waay in the future, if at all.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on January 12, 2012, 02:44:35 AM
Don't forget to take alook at whats going on over at Defiance Games.  They are the same guys who originally founded Wargames factory, and they've got future US Marines up for preorder, plus Hudson's Bugs and future Germans both coming soon as well.  They've got a set of rules that's being created for use with these minatures as well, and plans for various other futuristic releases.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 12, 2012, 03:14:56 AM
Cool, perhaps I will give the crusader rules a try - at least in theory.  The reviews I read stressed their streamlined simplicity, which seems like a bonus to trick/recruit new players.

That's part of what I like about the combined armour & toughness. You get both factors worked into the math, but one less die roll. Similarly, I like the multi-basing thing where you have each unit broken into something like 6 "bases" instead of 24 individual figures. Again, you end up with similar math, but with easier (and more scenic!) basing, movement, etc.

That said, I could deal with just a tiny bit more complexity to the Crusader rules. But as they're more along the lines of Hail Caesar (not tournament focused, encourage friendly play, customizing, etc.) they still seem adaptable. (In truth, so is Warhammer -- both Fantasy and Ancients, but because of the heavy competitive focus of those games, I've noticed a harsh opposition to any customizing of the rules for any purpose, even supposedly "friendly" games.)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: patsy02 on January 12, 2012, 06:12:20 PM
Damn. Those guardsmen look better than GW's Cadians.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on January 12, 2012, 07:09:30 PM
I was wondering on those Mantic "Cadians", if thats what they are, why the bolts on the boot protective plates are so large?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on January 12, 2012, 07:49:41 PM
I was wondering on those Mantic "Cadians", if thats what they are, why the bolts on the boot protective plates are so large?

Compensating.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Johnny-Crass on January 12, 2012, 07:50:38 PM
I was wondering on those Mantic "Cadians", if thats what they are, why the bolts on the boot protective plates are so large?

Keep the Stirlanders from stealing their shoes  :biggriin:

Has anyone played Mantics game?  I tried one game and found it very slanted
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on January 13, 2012, 02:22:24 PM
At first I didn't notice those bolts.  Like most humans, I tend to look at the face and then put it in context of the upper body.  Then when I started scanning the whole figure the bolts stood out, and each time I look at them, its keeping me from wanting to purchase.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 13, 2012, 02:46:39 PM
They're plastic figures - cut the bolts off.  :wink:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on January 14, 2012, 02:01:24 PM
They're plastic figures - cut the bolts off.  :wink:

What would these kids do without you zero, I don't know  :icon_rolleyes:
If you are really that freaky about a few bolts cut them off and file them flat.
The models look awesome, I still haven't noticed the bolts and I don't like 40K at all (except for SQUATS who rock)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on January 14, 2012, 02:50:56 PM
 :icon_lol:

If you're only looking at the guy in the cloak (the one that has oversized bolts on the corner of his garment  :icon_rolleyes: ), then to see what I'm talking about you need to click on the pictures below him to see the guys with the over sized bolts on their boots.

Bah, the figures aren't really that attractive to me anyway.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on January 14, 2012, 04:40:57 PM
I think I quite like the Mantic skeletons.

My favourite thing about them is actually the skeletal rat/dog thing you get on the sprue though.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on January 14, 2012, 05:06:17 PM
Damn Mantic are picking up pace...their Cadians are pretty nice too.

http://www.manticgames.com/Shop-Home/Warpath/Corporation/Product/Corporation-Armoured-Division-Ultimate-Deal-148-Figures.html (http://www.manticgames.com/Shop-Home/Warpath/Corporation/Product/Corporation-Armoured-Division-Ultimate-Deal-148-Figures.html)

At 150 £ for around 120 148  :icon_eek: models including 15 heavy weapon teams it becomes even nicer.

Info- Rangers kit includes extras, specifically 9 special weapons (3 of each type, flamer, heat gun, heavy laser rifle), and pistol/ melee weapon option for the leader, along with the drop packs. Think Nightsword mentioned demo charges and stuff as well.

Heavy weapon teams can be built as either lascannon or autocannon, basic corporation marines come with a few special weapon/ melee weapon options. Veterans all have special weapons, with an attached heavy weapon team

Word is that all of the Corporation resin/plastics will have seperate heads and seperate arms... and plenty of different options for both.

Hope they keep that up for the fantasy ranges too.  :icon_cool:


Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on January 15, 2012, 11:39:59 AM
:icon_lol:

If you're only looking at the guy in the cloak (the one that has oversized bolts on the corner of his garment  :icon_rolleyes: ), then to see what I'm talking about you need to click on the pictures below him to see the guys with the over sized bolts on their boots.

Bah, the figures aren't really that attractive to me anyway.

Have a look at this guy's right leg .................... I wonder if this is where the idea of bolts come from. 

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f162/jeffreyking_0/DSCF0011-11.jpg)

 :engel:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on January 15, 2012, 11:55:04 AM
How does he move his legs?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on January 15, 2012, 12:34:01 PM
With great difficulty.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on January 15, 2012, 01:06:15 PM
Although with no more difficulty than any figure from 40k...I always want to know where they keep their ammo.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 15, 2012, 02:31:59 PM
Ideally, in their enemis' faces.   :engel:

Seriously, cutting off bolts/rivets/whatever on metal figures might be a hassle, but on plastic it's not a big deal.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: patsy02 on January 15, 2012, 06:05:23 PM
Although with no more difficulty than any figure from 40k...I always want to know where they keep their ammo.
Most models that use ammo come with ammo containers of some sort(except space orks maybe), but people can rarely be bothered to glue them on.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: MrDWhitey on January 15, 2012, 06:12:32 PM
I always assumed magic.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on January 15, 2012, 10:07:40 PM
I like the bolts, I'm for keeping them. :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on January 16, 2012, 01:02:54 AM
I like the bolts, I'm for keeping them. :icon_mrgreen:
Me too  :icon_mrgreen: it gives them personality i think.

on the other manufacturers note I just got my 60 Old Glory lansknecht halberdeirs in the mail........ I love them....... they are beautiful!!  :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on January 16, 2012, 06:31:35 AM
Old Glory do have some special treasures in their midst.  :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on January 16, 2012, 04:05:25 PM
Have a look at this guy's right leg .................... I wonder if this is where the idea of bolts come from. 

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f162/jeffreyking_0/DSCF0011-11.jpg)

 :engel:
His right foot looks bigger than his left, too.  Not thrilled with that Space Wolf figure.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: towishimp on January 18, 2012, 12:50:44 AM
I like the bolts, I'm for keeping them. :icon_mrgreen:
Me too  :icon_mrgreen: it gives them personality i think.

on the other manufacturers note I just got my 60 Old Glory lansknecht halberdeirs in the mail........ I love them....... they are beautiful!!  :icon_lol:

So you like them?  You can't beat the price, and I almost ordered some greatswords from them, but the pictures are awful.  I just couldn't bring myself to order them without knowing exactly what they looked like.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on January 18, 2012, 02:25:30 AM
I like the bolts, I'm for keeping them. :icon_mrgreen:
Me too  :icon_mrgreen: it gives them personality i think.

on the other manufacturers note I just got my 60 Old Glory lansknecht halberdeirs in the mail........ I love them....... they are beautiful!!  :icon_lol:

So you like them?  You can't beat the price, and I almost ordered some greatswords from them, but the pictures are awful.  I just couldn't bring myself to order them without knowing exactly what they looked like.
Yeah what I ended up doing was google searching them. came up with some nice stuff so I decided to take the risk.
Sure beats shoeless monkeys in pajamas from gw
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: towishimp on January 18, 2012, 03:17:26 AM
Yeah what I ended up doing was google searching them. came up with some nice stuff so I decided to take the risk.
Sure beats shoeless monkeys in pajamas from gw

My sentiments, exactly.  I started during 6th, so all my state troopers look like that.  Now, I want to expand, which rules out the current GW state troops.  I was pondering converting my old spearmen to halberds, but I think I'll leave them intact and go for some Old Glory ones at some point.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on January 18, 2012, 06:31:41 AM
I got my handgunners from Old Glory, metal and the best poses and weapons I have seen for the particular unit.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: von Kalden on January 23, 2012, 12:01:43 PM
I´m surprised nobody posted those guys from Avatars of War, yet:

(http://www.avatars-of-war.com/images/apoc_war_cast.jpg)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on January 23, 2012, 12:41:53 PM
Where you got those? I serched for them on  their official site, but nada.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: von Kalden on January 23, 2012, 03:56:15 PM
Found them in some German forum but they also have a thread  in the official forum:

http://www.avatars-of-war.com/eng/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=861

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: TheElectorCount43 on January 23, 2012, 05:54:39 PM
Nice models.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: patsy02 on January 23, 2012, 07:04:21 PM
Are those resin or plastic? They look like plastic. There are parts. How much are they?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on January 23, 2012, 10:50:30 PM
Are those resin or plastic? They look like plastic. There are parts. How much are they?

Resin plastic, they call it warcast, and will be more expensive than their plastic range, but cheaper than finecast and will be direct order only.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on January 24, 2012, 07:49:40 AM
They look nice and if they are in the price range of the Dwarf slayers they made I think they will be fantastic...they should make Empire now.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on January 25, 2012, 09:20:33 PM
Plastic chaos warriors with oversized weapons?
Are they Rackham  :icon_question: :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on January 25, 2012, 09:31:17 PM
The company's name is AVATARS OF WAR. It's Spanish  - so you were half close. :icon_mrgreen:

Actually Rackham line is being re-released by Cmon- in resin and with 100% price hike.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on January 27, 2012, 11:12:40 PM
Got this email about upcoming releases from foundry. 
link (http://wargamesfoundry.com/coming_soon/?utm_source=Foundry+Miniatures+Ltd+List&utm_campaign=a30ddcac18-COMING_SOON_FROM_FOUNDRY_1_26_2012&utm_medium=email)

Look at these 'upcoming' Elizabethans:

(http://wargamesfoundry.com/kevimages/Images/ranges11/Elizabethan%20PROMO.jpg)

I really hope they don't discontinue the old range, as its probably one of their nicest.  Like, look at their current ones:

some nice spanish:
http://wargamesfoundry.com/historical_ranges/single_packs/elizabethan/spanish/brutal_sword_and_buckler_men_sb016/?sector_id=12

some nice british:
http://wargamesfoundry.com/historical_ranges/single_packs/elizabethan/british/elizabethan_pikemen_liz004/?sector_id=12

Man, those new elizabethans look like garbage compared to the current models!

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on January 28, 2012, 09:51:10 AM
The company's name is AVATARS OF WAR. It's Spanish  - so you were half close. :icon_mrgreen:

Actually Rackham line is being re-released by Cmon- in resin and with 100% price hike.

I think you missed the sarcasm.
I've been aware of Mr Felix Paniagua for 9? years.
His Dragonrune orcs are legendary.
Shame about his AoW goblin range which is very average.

Rackham coming back? Good old Chinese eh?

Timbor, they look quite nice, very static but still nice.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on January 28, 2012, 12:19:34 PM
Bohemian Troops released some Thirty Years War cavalry (~ three musketeers era), including some heavy cavalry that might work well as alternative pistoliers (you could probably supplement them with more variants from ECW ranges from Perry Miniatures or Warlord Games)

(http://www.horcata.eu/picture/2/heavy-cav-1-jpg/)

(http://www.horcata.eu/picture/2/heavy-cav-3-jpg/)

(http://www.horcata.eu/picture/2/heavy-cav-2-jpg/)

(http://www.horcata.eu/picture/2/heavy-stand-jpg/)

http://www.horcata.eu/category/thirty-years-war/ (http://www.horcata.eu/category/thirty-years-war/)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 28, 2012, 03:31:04 PM
I like the pistoliers. Do they have other (less static) horse options?

The Foundry figures are awful, and just another in a growing line of them replacing beautiful old sculpts with newer ones that look horrible. Ok, some are mediocre (at best) but certainly not worth the "premium" Foundry price.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on January 28, 2012, 03:41:24 PM
Light armour....right?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: MiB on January 28, 2012, 11:20:55 PM
Those look pretty much exactly like the Warlord Games ones tbh, just with metal horse
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gwyddyon on January 29, 2012, 01:11:28 AM
So, those Foundry releases...what exactly is going on with the left arms on the two in the bottom right? :icon_confused:  Much prefer the older sculpts.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: cjp on January 29, 2012, 02:43:28 AM
Those look pretty much exactly like the Warlord Games ones tbh, just with a totally shitty horse

Fixed that for you. ;)


Fantization are pimping this in their coming soon advertisements:

(http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/8411/wizardi.jpg)

Pretty campy, but kind of right in line with the recent batches of cartoony empire wizards from GW   :smile2:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on January 29, 2012, 08:54:58 AM
There's a bit of Rincewind in there.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on January 29, 2012, 10:02:42 AM
I like the pistoliers. Do they have other (less static) horse options?

Actually, I've had a look on their site and apparently the horse is just for show. They are selling the riders by themselves, so you can put them on whatever horse you want.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on January 31, 2012, 07:32:07 AM
Looks like they need to make some horses. 8-)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on January 31, 2012, 10:31:12 AM
I really like the style of those gunmen. They are realistic but fluffy in the same time. And not too expensive. The horses - not a problem, since GW sell them separately and to be honest here - GW makes the best looking horses on the market, in all editions. I love them all.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on January 31, 2012, 12:38:47 PM
I see the fact they are selling just the riders as an opportunity too as it allows to put all your figures from different manufacturers on the same horse brand to blend them in.

Better stock up on those plastic GW horses before they discontinue them though.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: towishimp on January 31, 2012, 09:00:15 PM
I see the fact they are selling just the riders as an opportunity too as it allows to put all your figures from different manufacturers on the same horse brand to blend them in.

Better stock up on those plastic GW horses before they discontinue them though.

I just stick my riders to the horses with poster sticky tack, so I never have to buy new horses. 
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: patsy02 on February 01, 2012, 12:22:38 PM
There's a bit of Rincewind in there.
He doesn't look miserable and inept though.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Blue in vt on February 01, 2012, 03:27:22 PM
I really like those TYW riders....very tempting....

Blue
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on February 02, 2012, 10:48:45 PM

The Fireforge Teutonic Knights are almost here - more photos .................


(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/427596_357985154230393_218634441498799_1336523_1470132019_n.jpg)

(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/429947_357985234230385_218634441498799_1336525_435710562_n.jpg)

(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/407339_357985360897039_218634441498799_1336527_631227420_n.jpg)

(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/423100_357985407563701_218634441498799_1336528_1917684786_n.jpg)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on February 03, 2012, 06:25:46 PM
So no need for knew GW knights then. Weyhey
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on February 03, 2012, 06:35:08 PM
Unless you want Empire-looking knights rather than Bretonnian-looking knights.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: TheElectorCount43 on February 03, 2012, 08:15:36 PM
Those crusader knights are nice if you are looking for knights from around the Araby crusades time (1400s).
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 03, 2012, 08:27:15 PM
Those look great. Very animated.

But yeah, not really my cup o' Empire tea. Look more like retro-Bretonnians.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on February 03, 2012, 08:50:43 PM
Those look great. Very animated.

But yeah, not really my cup o' Empire tea. Look more like retro-Bretonnians.

Ditto, they look nice but they look Bretonnian or Crusade period.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Novogord on February 03, 2012, 10:06:28 PM
So no need for knew GW knights then. Weyhey
It will depend on how they compare to our normal troops. They might be very tinny...

I do like the sculpting though, very nice figures.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on February 03, 2012, 10:58:30 PM
Teutonic Knights = Middenland knights during the three emperors period.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on February 04, 2012, 06:20:39 AM
I think the horses are the pick of the bunch, they are full of movement, rearing to go... really nice mount sculpts.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on February 04, 2012, 09:46:04 AM
Foundry have released some more of their not so well sculpted mercenaries.

(http://wargamesfoundry.com/horde.php?id=82208&prodid=82208)

I may be tempted by the pistoliers because they look like they might go with the old metal ones (though the poses are awkward compared to those classics) and they don't have any of the very crude puff and slash that's sculpted on the others.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on February 04, 2012, 12:16:03 PM
They're ok but... no thank you.  :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Marek on February 04, 2012, 02:11:40 PM
Those Teutonic Knights look great, they really emphasize the might of a cavalry charge.

The Foundry figures are pretty poor, especially when viewed close up.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on February 04, 2012, 05:50:25 PM
Foundry has released their amazon collection, and it seems in the excitement of it all, many amazons have released their boobs  :blush:

http://wargamesfoundry.com/greek_mythology/collections/any/any/amazons_collection_bcwg501/?sector_id=

The sculpts look better done than their new condottiere units, but there are an awful lot more breasts flopping around than I would expect of a tribe of ferocious warrior women... 
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on February 04, 2012, 09:19:01 PM
Kinda spendy for what they are. Wargames Factory Amazons are nicer models, about 1/4 of the price with more options (if you discount the lack of skirts).
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on February 05, 2012, 01:16:32 AM
Disappointed with the Foundry Italian Wars and their Elizabethans.

However the book 'Condottiere' has impressed me more - the rules are interesting with all units having fixed sizes Infantry 16 and Cavalry 10 and rather than roll dice for 'wounds' you use playing cards.

A bit like SAGA each type of unit is worth a number of points and you build an army to 30 points - your country of origin determines which units you have access to.


Personally I think the TAG Italians minis look much better ............. and I do like those Teutonic Knights - I am sure you could use less ornate heads/helmets - in fact I thought the sprue had choices.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on February 05, 2012, 10:23:17 AM
However the book 'Condottiere' has impressed me more - the rules are interesting with all units having fixed sizes Infantry 16 and Cavalry 10 and rather than roll dice for 'wounds' you use playing cards.

That book was partially ruined for me by those same crappy figures being plastered over nearly every page of it, making me cringe whenever they catch my eye.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on February 05, 2012, 11:10:49 AM
That book was partially ruined for me by those same crappy figures being plastered over nearly every page of it, making me cringe whenever they catch my eye.

So you have the book and I have the book ...............

...... so we need to meet up and have a try out of the game .................

....how does the weekend of April 28th sound ................ somewhere nearer to you, say -  like St Niklaas ............................

 :engel:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on February 05, 2012, 11:59:29 AM
I have a wedding on the 28th (not my own).  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on February 05, 2012, 12:03:50 PM
I have a wedding on the 28th (not my own).  :engel:

That's alright - I'll be there for the 29th and the 30th .......................

 :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on February 05, 2012, 12:54:43 PM
Hey, I have the book too!  Why don't you both just come across the pond and play here?  :happy:

Midaski, you can bring those minis you need to ship me too  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: FR1DAY on February 06, 2012, 06:34:21 PM
Found this over at TMP

http://theminiaturespage.com/news/?id=264929004 (http://theminiaturespage.com/news/?id=264929004)

new perry WOTR stuff. Looks like the mounted men at arms will be out either for or just after salute

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on February 06, 2012, 06:47:33 PM
Loving that Italian armored horseman - they could be mingled with GW Knights without any difficulty.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on February 06, 2012, 08:03:45 PM
Talking about this guy, I guess. It+s a 3up, so not really relevant to show quality, but we'll see.



(http://theminiaturespage.com/news/pics/2012/feb/264929004a.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on February 06, 2012, 08:16:15 PM
Perry stuff is universally good; never seen a bad model from them.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 06, 2012, 08:54:55 PM
Wow, love the knight. Can't wait to see the full kit!

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: FR1DAY on February 06, 2012, 08:56:41 PM
The legs look like the current empire knights legs but with stirrups.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Blue in vt on February 07, 2012, 02:13:00 AM
The plume on top seems a bit over done to me...but other than that... :eusa_clap:

Blue
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on February 07, 2012, 08:25:35 AM
Agreed, that plume will be coming off in a heart beat.
Otherwise fine.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Blue in vt on February 07, 2012, 08:13:04 PM
here is another Ratnik Special...

(http://s017.radikal.ru/i405/1202/ec/53f88886fd7f.jpg)

(http://i009.radikal.ru/1202/5a/0e72499dff43.jpg)

(http://s018.radikal.ru/i526/1202/ca/2bd5dc01599b.jpg)

Pure WIN!

Blue
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on February 07, 2012, 08:33:56 PM
Yeah, that is absolutely SWEET! Makes me almost wish I had regular cannons in my army!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on February 07, 2012, 09:42:49 PM
Very ornate artillery, nice.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on February 08, 2012, 10:52:13 AM
I think they are slightly too ornate for my taste, but I'll likely still get a couple.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on February 08, 2012, 09:07:56 PM
Sexamalicious

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on February 10, 2012, 02:38:40 AM
new knights....... I'm drooling over those perry knights......
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on February 10, 2012, 07:09:12 AM
Those Ratnik cannons are sweet. And those Perry minis are just to good to be true!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on February 10, 2012, 08:08:25 AM
Loving that Italian armored horseman - they could be mingled with GW Knights without any difficulty.

More likely they will be 'replacing' GW Empire knights   :icon_wink:

Anyone looking for Empire mounted plastic knights, I have about 120 up for sale shortly.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on February 10, 2012, 05:31:53 PM
Loving that Italian armored horseman - they could be mingled with GW Knights without any difficulty.

More likely they will be 'replacing' GW Empire knights   :icon_wink:

Anyone looking for Empire mounted plastic knights, I have about 120 up for sale shortly.

Especially if GW decides to make the new knights set in finecast, then we can expect  a tag price about 100€ for 4 knihgts. :eusa_wall:

Justnorth, would 0,20 a piece be a fair offer? :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on February 10, 2012, 07:49:19 PM
You may need to follow the financial sectors bright and bold moves and engage in some quantitative easing.  :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on February 10, 2012, 10:29:10 PM
Ah, is this a fancy way of saying yes?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on February 11, 2012, 07:24:30 AM
Its a fancy way of saying you better go to your parents for some more pocket money  :biggriin: :icon_lol: :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on February 11, 2012, 07:59:00 AM
Maybe you should go to your grandchildren and ask them to explain the word 'sarcastic' to you.  :roll:


....and no, I won't go hang myself just to please you...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on February 11, 2012, 08:06:20 AM
  :icon_question:
 :?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on February 11, 2012, 12:47:51 PM
"When you hang from a gibbet for the sport of your own crows, we will have peace."
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on February 11, 2012, 04:54:42 PM
Boxes of Empire knights on ebay go very cheaply these days - I've picked a brand new box up for around £6 a couple of times in the last year, just to get armoured torso and left arms for conversions.

Maybe you should hang on to them for twenty years by which time we might have new ones and the current ones might have some nostalgia value  :engel:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on February 12, 2012, 10:27:09 AM
O venerable one, how can you think so poorly of Games Workshop, whom you know in their inimitable wisdom will release new knights just at the right time   
 :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on February 13, 2012, 02:38:39 PM
I think some of them could work well for empire.

http://www.vesper-on.com/index.php?lang=en (http://www.vesper-on.com/index.php?lang=en)

Like the butcher

http://vesper-on.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=32&category_id=8&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=7&lang=en (http://vesper-on.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=32&category_id=8&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=7&lang=en)

and they do have fishmen

http://vesper-on.com/index.php?page=shop.browse&category_id=10&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=7&lang=en (http://vesper-on.com/index.php?page=shop.browse&category_id=10&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=7&lang=en)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on February 20, 2012, 09:08:47 PM
If I recall correctly, these might have been posted previously, but if not, here they are ...

http://sgmm.biz/borderreivers.html

Those are looking mighty fine!  :icon_biggrin: :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on February 21, 2012, 01:37:10 AM
Just found these ...

http://www.outpostwargameservices.co.uk/

The links to their pictures are at the bottom of that page.  Not sure if the figures are as good as the ones in the previous post, plus they're listed as 25mm.  Does anyone have any experience with this manufacturer or their Border Reiver series?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on February 21, 2012, 01:54:10 AM
And here's some more 28mm Border Reivers ...

http://www.monolithdesigns.co.uk/borderreivers.htm

An those look cool! :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on February 21, 2012, 04:20:44 PM
If I recall correctly, these might have been posted previously, but if not, here they are ...

http://sgmm.biz/borderreivers.html

Those are looking mighty fine!  :icon_biggrin: :icon_cool:

They're the old Vendel range that were sold in the UK - Stafford Games sort of took them over for a while, and still hada few minis at the last show I went to, but then the business (moulds ) were sold over the pond ......................

They are quite nice - I have a few .............
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 21, 2012, 06:20:03 PM
I bought two packs of the ancients from the new US manufacturer of the old Vendel figures (Molon Labe/Sgt. Major.) Maybe I was just unlucky, but both packs were pretty poorly cast. In fact, the pack of staff slingers is more or less unusable. It looks like there was a chunk of the mold missing, so one part of the face around the eye is just a horrible lump -- almost like the Skaven figures that have chunks of warpstone jammed into their eye sockets, but less defined. No hope of making them look human. The other pack (hypaspists) was better, but still had a lot of flash - more than any other figure I've seen from any manufacturer in a decade or so. I haven't even bothered with trying to clean/paint them, so I don't remember if the two sides aligned properly or if there was any slippage in the molds. Below is a pic of the hypaspist -- I don't have one of the staff slinger.


EDIT: I just packed these figures up, I had it backwards. The hypaspists, shown below, are the ones with the messed up eyes. It's the left eye, you can kind of see the lump projecting out in front of the helmet in the photo. The staff slingers look somewhat serviceable.


(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/minicomps/macinfcomp01.jpg)

All of those figures are in "straight out of the package" condition -- no cleaning/filing done to any of them.

I was going to order a bunch of figures from them, but wanted a couple "sample packs" first. Good thing I did!

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Athiuen on February 21, 2012, 11:53:36 PM
Man that molon labe one looks crap.

Foundry looks like the pick of the litter there.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 22, 2012, 04:40:33 AM
Man that molon labe one looks crap.

Foundry looks like the pick of the litter there.

I actually prefer the Crusader. They're a bit simpler & easier to paint, the Foundry shields are small (diameter) but thick, and although these figures are OK, I've noticed that the casting quality on some of the Foundry figures seems to have declined in recent years. But still, they're from the "golden age" of Foundry and are only a close second to Crusader, for me.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Athiuen on February 22, 2012, 06:18:20 AM
It would be easier to choose with them in-hand.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on February 22, 2012, 03:03:31 PM
Like the looks of the Crusader figure, the First Corp looks detailed, and the Molon Lobe really looks like its hurting.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on February 22, 2012, 05:13:10 PM
I was going to buy some of the mastiffs off Molon Labe..... starting to second guess it now
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 22, 2012, 07:15:03 PM
Probably can't mess up the casting on the dogs too much.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on February 22, 2012, 07:23:35 PM
I was going to buy some of the mastiffs off Molon Labe..... starting to second guess it now

I have some from when they were made in the UK - realistic size so smaller than the Mordheim Witch Hunter wardogs!  :engel:
Hopefully the moulds have travelled better than the 'Ancients' pictured above.

If I was O23 I would have complained and sent them back .....................
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on February 22, 2012, 07:53:34 PM
I was going to buy some of the mastiffs off Molon Labe..... starting to second guess it now

I have some from when they were made in the UK - realistic size so smaller than the Mordheim Witch Hunter wardogs!  :engel:
Hopefully the moulds have travelled better than the 'Ancients' pictured above.

If I was O23 I would have complained and sent them back .....................
They are really that small?  :icon_cry:
I was going to use them as warhounds. oh well
I would have sent them back too......
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on February 23, 2012, 09:54:28 PM
Speaking of warhounds ....

http://www.ragingheroes.com/collections/complete-collection/products/pack-of-cyberwolves

These might make pretty good Space Wolf thunderwolf mounts, or for some other purpose (if the Empire can have the robo-horse, surely an Ulric Engineer would . . . )
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on February 24, 2012, 09:39:11 AM
War dogs.

If you can find them, Chronopia "Sons of Kronos War Hounds"
http://www.princeaugust.ie/target_games/tg2350.html (http://www.princeaugust.ie/target_games/tg2350.html)

Not a bad size (but please excuse the picture from my phone)
(http://www.napoleonicassociation.org/dogs_of_war.jpg)

Gripping Beast also do them (but not sure on size)
http://www.grippingbeast.com/product.php?ItemID=289 (http://www.grippingbeast.com/product.php?ItemID=289)

And Warlord Games
http://store.warlordgames.com/warhound-pack-542-p.asp (http://store.warlordgames.com/warhound-pack-542-p.asp)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on February 24, 2012, 11:36:33 AM

The Warlord Games ones are quite tiny - I had bought the Vendel ones a few years ago, and then saw the WG ones at Salute - quite a difference.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on February 24, 2012, 04:53:41 PM
Just had the WG weekly email ..........

I quite like this:

http://www.warlordgames.com/18097/new-warlord-games-firepower-lights/

 ......... now we need sound effects ........

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Silver Wolf on February 24, 2012, 09:32:04 PM
Way too cool  :icon_razz:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on February 25, 2012, 01:19:16 PM
Certainly brought a smile to my face this morning! :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on February 26, 2012, 01:18:38 AM
I read this (http://thatguyjames.blogspot.com/2012/01/dear-mantic.html). Made me laugh.

(There is link up there, just in case you were wondering.)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on February 26, 2012, 11:07:32 AM
And he has a point, too.


(Is that your blog, wissenlander...?)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 26, 2012, 02:44:41 PM
I quite like this:

http://www.warlordgames.com/18097/new-warlord-games-firepower-lights/

 ......... now we need sound effects ........


I like those too. Very cool.

Back in the early, golden age of my gaming experience, I played at a store where one of the guys built terrain with those incandescent "flickering candle" lights in them. He had a big mine entrance that we used at the store. LEDs are probably a lot more practical (though maybe not as convincing for torch/fire light.)


I read this (http://thatguyjames.blogspot.com/2012/01/dear-mantic.html). Made me laugh.

To some extent I get the point but at the same time I think he underestimates the power of cheap. I'm not the biggest fan of most of Mantic's ranges. But, for example, if I were to play undead, I see no reason to spend ridiculous money on GW figures when Mantic has done it at least as good (if not better) for half the price. Some people feel that way about their other ranges.

I think he misses what they are doing. They're not going head to head with GW, they're riding GW's coat tails. They seem to be doing OK.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: towishimp on February 26, 2012, 08:52:23 PM
And he has a point, too.

He does, but I disagree.  Wargames Factory tried that with their orcs, making them look all Roman-y...and my friend, that I directed to their site as a cheap source of orcs, didn't like the look and didn't buy any.  I think Mantic has to stay pretty generic, so that they have the biggest pool of potential customers.  Also, yeah, cheap.  Quantity has a quality all its own.  I have about 2000 points of VC thanks to Mantic; if I had bought all GW, I'd have like a 750 point warband.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on February 26, 2012, 09:32:05 PM
I read this (http://thatguyjames.blogspot.com/2012/01/dear-mantic.html). Made me laugh.

(There is link up there, just in case you were wondering.)

I don't see what he rumbles about: The Mantic goblins are different enough to exist on their own:

(http://www.manticblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Goblin-and-Mawbeast.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 27, 2012, 12:13:17 AM
Wargames Factory tried that with their orcs, making them look all Roman-y

Romans? Er... not by a long shot.

If anything, I think they look like they were aiming for Angus McBride orcs.

Edit: I tried a Google image ssearch for "angus mcbride orc" and the first one that came up was on this page, comparing one of his paintings to the WF figures. http://www.chaos-dwarfs.com/forum/printthread.php?tid=8963

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 27, 2012, 01:15:59 AM
I don't see what he rumbles about: The Mantic goblins are different enough to exist on their own:

(http://www.manticblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Goblin-and-Mawbeast.jpg)

Glowing green goblin!  :icon_eek:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on February 27, 2012, 03:15:40 AM
I really like those Wargames Factory Orcs - those look like lovely models. WF do some decent stuff, in my view.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: towishimp on February 27, 2012, 03:17:01 AM
I really like those Wargames Factory Orcs - those look like lovely models. WF do some decent stuff, in my view.

I agree.  I have their skeletons and will probably get more in the future.  Just saying that if you try to get too cute when you're sculpting fantasy army figures, you might sculpt your way out of a sale, even if you're talented.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on February 27, 2012, 03:20:42 AM
Based on my cursory glance at the WF news page, they seem to sculpt stuff with a lot of input from the (perhaps small and vocal) community; so they know it will appeal to some. I rather get the impression they are market-driven rather than market-driving (as GW are).
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on February 27, 2012, 03:33:30 AM
At least since the ownership shake up, perhaps.  Prior, they were doing things like Sci-Fi Shock Troops for a new their own rules, and generic War of Spanish Succession.  Now they are doing 15mm WWII to sell inexpensive plastic vs. FoW metal, but unfortunately the mixture of figures on the sprue seems lackiing.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 27, 2012, 05:29:37 AM
If anything, I think they look like they were aiming for Angus McBride orcs.


The more I think on it, as a side effect of that, they also have a bit of a feel of the Ian Miller art in some of the really old GW books. (Which might be described as something akin to Angus McBride's orcs, if Mr. McBride dropped acid and only worked in black ink.)

Edit (again): OK, so my memory's fauilty, he did work in color too (http://www.sci-fi-o-rama.com/2009/06/14/ian-miller-the-battle-of-hornburg/). I usually think of his B&W drawings.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: MiB on February 27, 2012, 09:23:55 AM
I read this (http://thatguyjames.blogspot.com/2012/01/dear-mantic.html). Made me laugh.

(There is link up there, just in case you were wondering.)

I don't see what he rumbles about: The Mantic goblins are different enough to exist on their own:

[,img width=750 height=562]http://www.manticblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Goblin-and-Mawbeast.jpg[/img]

Those beasts look utterly silly mind.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on February 27, 2012, 12:22:19 PM
On another subject entirely, I quite like this tank thing:

http://shop.ramshacklegames.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=6&products_id=382
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on February 27, 2012, 11:26:18 PM
Something about the shape of it Rufus, reminds me of one of the French WWII tanks circa 1940, was it a Renault?
No no it wasn't... I was thinking of the REnault R35 originally but the shape reminded me of an earlier British tank, the Vickers Medium mark II from the interwar period, a funny old thing but anyway, the shape of your linked tank reminded me of it...
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vickers_Medium_Mark_II
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on February 28, 2012, 11:00:30 AM
Of course it does...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on February 28, 2012, 01:58:02 PM
Anybody bought these, they are rather nice and have great options for halberdiers and dismounted knights...
http://www.vexillia.ltd.uk/mirliton/shop28_humans.html
I think they are the old Copplestone sculpted Grenadier miniatures that Mirliton put out and they are available through Vexillia here in the UK.
Anybody got any of these repro's ?
If so what are they like?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: warhammerlord_soth on February 28, 2012, 03:09:10 PM
If so what are they like?


Nice, but a tad small. Can't mix 'em with GW
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: orcyboy on February 28, 2012, 05:25:26 PM
If those are the same as the Grenadier/Mirlton then they work perfectly fine with GW stuff.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on February 28, 2012, 05:50:26 PM
I have a couple of the dismounted knight characters. They are very nice sculpts and tall enough, but a bit more slender than GW, with smaller heads. I'm fussy about such things.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on February 28, 2012, 05:54:56 PM

............ but then if you had some of the older 25mm minis from the Fighters and early Brets era they would fit ok too I imagine.

Not seen these before, and I have to say I am impressed - though looking at the tree trunk lances I notice the 'heroic' weapon scale.  :engel:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on February 29, 2012, 10:12:46 AM
Considering they came out in the early 90's they're not bad at all.

Although the later sculpts not done by Mark Copplestone do look a bit poo.

Mark has revisited fantasy a couple of times, but at 10mm (with his NOT Lord of the Rings range that coincidentally fits in with Warmaster very nicely) and now 15mm.

Unfortunately I got rid of mine a long time ago, but if memory serves they will fit in with v6 figures nicely - apart from the horses which are a truer scale.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on February 29, 2012, 06:24:41 PM
There was some mention of 4Ground back on page 39 about their buildings.

I've just seen these as well:

(http://www.4ground.co.uk/ProductImages/43710294-7761-4bc5-b2a6-9f2f6b34da7f_thumb.jpg)

(http://www.4ground.co.uk/ProductImages/0048048d-06ba-4f61-a407-cf05e9d8fefc_thumb.jpg)

(http://www.4ground.co.uk/ProductImages/24d14195-71d9-4629-902c-bda2b1ea54f9_thumb.jpg)

(http://www.4ground.co.uk/ProductImages/5b04e938-0afb-4ff1-9e76-44db7d9d14a1_thumb.jpg)

at £5.00 each for the first two, and then £3.00 and £3.50 they look amazing value.

I have seen a link somehwere to someone giving the Tudor house discussed earlier a 'makeover' adding thin balsa strips to the beam/timber positions to give the model depth.

http://www.4ground.co.uk/

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on February 29, 2012, 09:57:16 PM
If so what are they like?


Nice, but a tad small. Can't mix 'em with GW

Soth reckons they're a bit small to work with current GW models. Fair call.

If those are the same as the Grenadier/Mirlton then they work perfectly fine with GW stuff.

Orcyboy thinks they are just fine. Fair call.

What am I to do?

Three more posters come on board and the odds are split fairly evenly.

Hmmmmm...   conundrum...
Then it occurs to me, that firstly, my handgunners are all the old style Old Glory anyway that Midaski put me on to a couple of years ago, I plumped about £80 quid on those bad boys and they are a little shorter than any of the current plastic handgunners, so.... the Grenadier handgunners will be spot on as an addition to the army, they will fit in fine. I want the hand cannons in the same unit as the handgunners with the taper lighters in the 2nd rank.

Next it occurs to me that I don't have many plastic GW Empire miniatures from after 6th edition so is size still going to be an issue?
Maybe?
I have a lot of older Empire models for Reiksguard foot knights (about 70 all metals) and these 4th and 5th edition guys may well be a bit smaller (as in a tad shorter) than my later 6th edition Empire boys, I have metal fladgies (about 65 I think?) similar number of metal Teutogen guard? and about 90 metal GW Kossars
4th, 5th, and 6th edition plastic core troops (maybe 500 plastic core troops in total not including handgunners) and about 300 metal core troops from the same editions spread across roughly evenly and I'm pretty sure the earlier metals are a bit shorter, but not really any less wide or solid if you like.
Against these the older grenadier foot knights might fit in nicely. I have some old grenadier foot troops in metal already and I'm keen to get some more of the handgunners and halberdiers.
The issue is I think Soth is right where the halberdiers are concerned. The older metal halberdiers are definitely shorter than the modern plastic options.
I might have to keep the Halberd and spear units separate and not mix and mingle the older metal halberdiers with their newer plastic counterparts.
The plastic 6th edition core troops are a bit taller than the older metals.
I have around 450-500 metal DoW Empire model options on foot as well but they are almost all a bit skinnier, especially the pike blocks models, and a bit shorter than the late model plastics.
Are the metal body White Wolf Cavalry a bit smaller than the current cavalry? Or the same size?
I have 120 odd white wolf cav and if they are a bit smaller I could field them exclusively with the older models on foot.
I guess that with the Empire knights not having changed their kit for so long the white wolves are probably the same size as the regular knights?
Hmmmm... bugger.
KIslev horse archers are definitely a bit smaller but I only have 60 of them and those little rats don't have any armour on  hmmmm...
Maybe Gryphon knights will be the way forward.

Better idea, I'll just split the army into two different eras, older and newer models and the handgunners can float between the two armies because they never mingle in the units.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: orcyboy on March 01, 2012, 06:16:28 AM

If those are the same as the Grenadier/Mirlton then they work perfectly fine with GW stuff.

Orcyboy thinks they are just fine. Fair call.

They certainly don't fit in with the current Empire miniatures. They work better with the 6th ed Empire and older.

The biggest problem with them isn't so much hieght and build as it is the time period they represent.  Their dress is more directed at the Burgundian/Swiss wars era and mine are mixed in with the old 80's Bretonnian crossbowman which represnt same period.

So to be honest they mix in perfectly fine with the 80's Bretonnian/Fighters series as Midaski pointed out but will stand out like sore thumbs with the 7th ed and even 6th when considering their lack of slash and puff.  Ofcourse they still make excellent Tilean mercenaries.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on March 01, 2012, 07:35:10 AM
Roger that Orcy, I've got enough miniatures to split them into time periods of manufacturing (as opposed to historical time periods) and that will mean they are unlikely to clash in terms of height or dress code/uniforms.
I do hope allies are back in the Empire book because I have a swag of puffy sleeved Imperial Dwarves that are waiting to come out of retirement.
I mean they do play in Armies of Arcana but it's been a few editions since they could officially enlist in the Empire ranks.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on March 01, 2012, 10:30:32 AM
[The biggest problem with them isn't so much hieght and build as it is the time period they represent.  Their dress is more directed at the Burgundian/Swiss wars era and mine are mixed in with the old 80's Bretonnian crossbowman which represnt same period.

Bretonnians represent HYW period though (at least they did in the 90s), so earlier still. I do agree the grenadier stuff is too early for Empire, but then so is the Perry Miniatures stuff everyone seems to like to use for Empire.

To me, both Grenadier and Perry are better suited for Border Princes and DOW.

But the grenadier full plate knights aren't too different from the Empire ones, so should work. The horses however are rather tiny so will have to be replaced if any mounted figures are purchased.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 01, 2012, 11:38:54 AM
The horses however are rather tiny so will have to be replaced if any mounted figures are purchased.

So suitable as MM66 Reiksgard mounts then ...................  :engel:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on March 01, 2012, 02:01:59 PM
There was some mention of 4Ground back on page 39 about their buildings.

I've just seen these as well:
(http://www.4ground.co.uk/ProductImages/24d14195-71d9-4629-902c-bda2b1ea54f9_thumb.jpg)http://www.4ground.co.uk/

Excuse the poor photo (used the damned phone) but here is one I put together with a Front Rank draft horse
(http://www.napoleonicassociation.org/wargaming/4ground/Cart.jpg)

The Ox cart is massive - and I have ox's from Front Rank also to pull it - but they are still bare wood/metal

Did you see this one?
(http://www.4ground.co.uk/ProductImages/6d674bdb-35e2-46bf-b576-5325c3f70424_lightboxLarge.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 01, 2012, 03:16:01 PM
Must resist ......... must resist ...............

They will render my Hirst Arts moulds obsolete ...........

The bad news is I have my Salute ticket .............. and their stuff is on the Colonel Bill's Stand.


That cart looks great and for £3.00 it's even better.
That building - painted - is £45.90 - cannot see it offered unpainted as some of their stuff is.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on March 01, 2012, 03:56:20 PM
The biggest problem with them isn't so much hieght and build as it is the time period they represent.  Their dress is more directed at the Burgundian/Swiss wars era and mine are mixed in with the old 80's Bretonnian crossbowman which represnt same period.
Bretonnians represent HYW period though (at least they did in the 90s), so earlier still. I do agree the grenadier stuff is too early for Empire, but then so is the Perry Miniatures stuff everyone seems to like to use for Empire.

To me, both Grenadier and Perry are better suited for Border Princes and DOW.

But the grenadier full plate knights aren't too different from the Empire ones, so should work. The horses however are rather tiny so will have to be replaced if any mounted figures are purchased.
Got my Perrys being painted up to use for historicals or Tileans (DoW).

- - - - - - - - - -

That cart looks a bit big for just one horse, even with it unloaded.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on March 01, 2012, 05:59:00 PM
Must resist ......... must resist ...............

They will render my Hirst Arts moulds obsolete ...........


Really.

The bad news is I have my Salute ticket ..............


See you there O most venerable one ;-)


That building - painted - is £45.90 - cannot see it offered unpainted as som eof their stuff is.

At that price your hirst moulds are looking fairly safe.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 01, 2012, 07:37:50 PM
At that price your hirst moulds are looking fairly safe.

Well it's the Market Hall painted inside and out and with interiors as per Donnachaidh's pics on the previous page, plus a cottage, which I think is only painted on the outside.

The Market Hall on its own looks like it is £35.00 if you go to the Pirates and Fantasy page.

Compared to some of the resin buildings it's not that bad.

They are apparently going to offer it unpainted - that price will be interesting.

The carts certainly look a winner - simple metal versions are quite pricey in comparison.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on March 02, 2012, 09:47:53 AM
I'm seeing Ben and the crew at a party next weekend in Bristol, so I will badger him about an unpainted version - actually I will do it before then as I want him to bring me one to have a play with.

My thought was the cart was too big also. Mrs R says otherwise (she knows about that sort of stuff) but visually, I agree with you.

The Ox cart is better as it is pulled by two animals - or even four or six if you want to.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 02, 2012, 09:54:42 AM

Are you queue jumping at Salute this year ...............  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on March 02, 2012, 10:00:18 AM

Are you queue jumping at Salute this year ...............  :engel:

In my defence, I just found myself in the queue, and went with it........

EDIT
Unless I can blag a traders or participants ticket which bypasses all queues..!!  :-P
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on March 02, 2012, 06:41:38 PM
And my latest with the Rorkes Drift buildings mixed with rendered walls
(http://www.napoleonicassociation.org/4ground/farm_06.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on March 03, 2012, 08:00:50 AM
Very nice, I can almost hear Michael Caine's cockney accent spouting,
"Don't you point that bloody spear at me!"
 :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on March 03, 2012, 03:22:49 PM
Except Caine spoke with an officer's accent throughout that film. Didn't he?

There was a cockney skiver who became a hero though - private something or other (many people on this forum will know his name).
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: FR1DAY on March 03, 2012, 10:10:32 PM
Henry Hook
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on March 04, 2012, 10:24:45 AM
Ha ha! Henry Hook. Hexcellent help.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 06, 2012, 10:06:28 PM
It seems someone has spotted some new sets from Fireforge to add to their Teutonic Knights:

Templar Knights and Mounted Sergeants  - both seem to be 12 man sets

http://www.fireforge-games.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=117:templar-knights-mounted-sergeants-preview&Itemid=477

Haven't looked at the sprue details too closely - I guess there will be some overlapping, but I will be at Salute, so that's three new boxes I need to put on the shopping list ............
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: commandant on March 06, 2012, 10:28:12 PM
when is salute?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on March 07, 2012, 06:00:55 AM
Have a look on the south london warlords website
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 07, 2012, 08:57:17 AM
when is salute?

The Saturday before the Bash weekend - April 21st

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on March 07, 2012, 09:09:57 AM
so that's three new boxes I need to put on the shopping list ............

So, have you painted the Conquest Norman's yet...............    :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on March 07, 2012, 09:35:24 AM
Excuse the poor photo (used the damned phone) but here is one I put together with a Front Rank draft horse
(http://www.napoleonicassociation.org/wargaming/4ground/Cart.jpg)

The Ox cart is massive - and I have ox's from Front Rank also to pull it - but they are still bare wood/metal

Is that on a 50 by 100mm base? How big is the 4-wheeled cart?

Also, how durable are these things?

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on March 07, 2012, 09:43:31 AM
I would have to measure - I just cut a rectangle of plasticard that fitted both.

They are durable, and the yoke is movable on the ox cart which is impressive.
I found this on the phone, so I uploaded it for you

(http://www.napoleonicassociation.org/4ground/Ox.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on March 07, 2012, 09:49:21 AM
Thanks!

Hmmmm, pretty big then. Too big for a snotling pump wagon! Might get one anyway though.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on March 07, 2012, 09:52:13 AM
Perhaps a snotling pump tank?

If you are looking for conversion perposes, I think it is roughly 100mm long in the body, and between 45mm and 50mm wide
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on March 07, 2012, 01:15:38 PM
I quite fancy the covered wagon. I think it looks nice!

Not for the snotlings though. Way too big. Am building one out of plasticard and sprue instead.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on March 10, 2012, 07:39:23 AM
If so what are they like?


Nice, but a tad small. Can't mix 'em with GW

They (they being the missile troops I ordered from Vexilia, cast by Mirliton from the old Grenadier moulds)  have arrived, Huzzah ! and they are rather lovely but they are also closer to 25mm than 28mm.
The pre-slotta base will give them a little added height on top of the slotta but it's also a matter of proportions, they are shorter and slighter than the chunky modern plastics. They will fit perfectly with my Old Glory handgunners and they are rather lovely sculpts, my favourite is the adorable little Culverin, very well sculpted and absolutely perfect as a Halfling cannon. Quite the ticket.
 I'll be getting another because the culverin is just glorious.
Very happy with the hand cannoneers as well. Once again they won't mix particularly well with modern plastics but when it comes to handgunners these models are better sculpted than the modern plastic handgunners and they can be used as historicals as well should the urge take me... I am enamoured with how the sculpt shows the gunner struggling to keep the weapon in position let alone on target. The taper bearers look suitably wary of gettinmg close to the semi-unstable weapon. Nice touch.
Arquebusiers are nice as well, plenty of chainmail and a nice variety in the presentation of the different handgonnes as well showing someone did their research before sculpting.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 12, 2012, 01:40:29 AM
Got back from Cold Wars earlier today. Saw a couple things there that may be of Empire-ish interest.

First was Bronze Age Miniatures. I saw these dwarfs...

http://www.bronzeagemin.com/miniatures_html/32MM/FANTASY/dwarves/Dwarf-set-2.htm

...but didn't buy any. But I did buy a pack of...

http://www.bronzeagemin.com/miniatures_html/32MM/historical/Pirates/28mmPirate-set-1.htm

Unfortunately it's hard to see what they look like from the pics on the web page. There's some other potentially interesting things on their web page.


I was finally able to see in person were the halflings from Goblin Factory. I picked up two packs. I will post comparison photos in the halfling thread when I get time.


I tried to get a pack of Landsknect Looters from Artizan, but they were didn't have any.


One of the retailers was selling Otherworld figures, so I finally got to see their giant. AMAZING. Would have loved to get one, but it was a bit more than I wanted to spend.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 12, 2012, 10:53:20 AM

I bought a whole load of female minis from Bronze Age last year - David was very helpful and I got 30%

I am sure it was mentioned either earlier in this thread or in the Special Deals thread.

I quite like them.

 :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 12, 2012, 04:15:04 PM
I am sure it was mentioned either earlier in this thread or in the Special Deals thread.


I feel confident that I've hit the point where it's a legitimate excuse to say that I can't remember everything mentioned in a 47 page long thread.  :wink:


One more thing about the Bronze Age booth, the painting on their display figures was first rate. That's what caught my eye in the first place.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on March 12, 2012, 09:48:33 PM
Not impressed by the Bronze age Imperial dwarves at all.
They are way too skinny and at 32mm they look like humans, not Dwarves.
Didn't see much at all onthe website that interested me enough to buy it but I will have a nosey if they have some stuff at Salute because seeing product in person and holding it in your hand is different to looking at pictures on the net.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 13, 2012, 04:34:38 AM
Well they have a very different look & morphology from the Marauder dwarfs (and by extension, the White Knight dwarfs) which are the closest comparison. Far different than GW in general. I like them, but I also like the Marauder/WK dwarfs.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on March 13, 2012, 07:43:31 PM
Yeah they are very different but for me 023, they are just too skinny for dwarves.
Now ok, it's fantasy, and who's to say some Dwarves aren't skinny, it's just I am kinda used to seeing Dwarves looking at least reasonably well rounded in their girth and I like them like that.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Blue in vt on March 14, 2012, 05:20:43 PM
 :::cheers:::

So Ratnik has moved onto Crossbows...in the puff and slash style.  These are preview pics only...they will be available through LAM in the future

(http://s019.radikal.ru/i644/1203/d2/8441d7933a4c.jpg)

(http://s05.radikal.ru/i178/1203/e3/ddb9cb5358cc.jpg)

(http://s12.radikal.ru/i185/1203/7e/711c9b348b95.jpg)

(http://s54.radikal.ru/i145/1203/7b/fb15775e12b5.jpg)

(http://s019.radikal.ru/i641/1203/f7/3013de2bbc85.jpg)

(http://s019.radikal.ru/i614/1203/67/c3ee0034aaba.jpg)

(http://s019.radikal.ru/i627/1203/5b/a1b26d33c5c4.jpg)

(http://s017.radikal.ru/i435/1203/40/9f2eac21f86c.jpg)

I mourn the loss of my bank balance... :cry:

Blue
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Silver Wolf on March 14, 2012, 09:03:38 PM
This guy's puff and slash style is perfect. Those sleeves are so much more detailed than those made by GW.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on March 15, 2012, 02:06:20 AM
Likin' those crossbowmen! :icon_biggrin: :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 15, 2012, 03:21:06 AM
I like them. Really nice and over the top. But not in the GW "otherwise bland and crappy figure, but lets put a giant feather on it" over the top. These go all out, and with brilliant sculpting.

I wonder what material he's using to sculpt those.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on March 15, 2012, 11:00:15 AM
Wow they are seriously over the top but they are also compellingly lush.
Wonderful sculpting.
Love the halfling musician, fabulous.
Not sure if I'll invest in them but they are a work of art and far better puff and slash crossbowmen for a human period army than anything else I've seen.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on March 15, 2012, 11:03:16 AM
These are fantastic!

I really like the Halfling and I will get these guys after my no mini buying ban! (most likely june but I may extend it to the rest of the year if I continue not painting much).
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: zak on March 15, 2012, 12:48:22 PM
wow thats some crazy puff...very nice  :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Blue in vt on March 15, 2012, 01:48:58 PM
I'm working a team of his halberdmen right now and I can tell you they are VERY detailed and excellent sculpts...also some of the cleanest castings that I've seen.  And these look even better...they are a bit over the top but in a good way.  The only downside is that with this level of intricacy they take a long time to paint!  But man do they look good when done.

Cheers,

Blue

BTW...that is supposed to be a boy horn player instead of a hlfling...but I suppose it works fine either way.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 17, 2012, 08:44:50 PM

The Dwarf Tales site is down.

Anyone - particularly our Polish friends - know anything?

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on March 18, 2012, 09:51:40 PM
Oh my! Those are some sweet Ratnik minis! Just plain lovely!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: FR1DAY on March 21, 2012, 06:27:02 PM
The Perry's ahve given a release date for the mounted men at arms. They will be available at Salute.

http://theminiaturespage.com/news/1266406620/ (http://theminiaturespage.com/news/1266406620/)

12 for £18 quid. Or only £16.20 at Maelstrom in a while is awesome value. I'm getting two minimum. Tempted to get 3 for the Charles to Bold figure.

Midaski, your going to Salute aren't you?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: cjp on March 21, 2012, 06:57:11 PM
Claymore Castings has some new archers coming forth:

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-mLNwvzDGyvc/T2oFjYi83fI/AAAAAAAABfI/hSsMM2Qw0Us/s640/archers1.bmp)

If you haven't seen their new medieval scots stuff yet, have a look:

http://www.claymorecastings.co.uk/

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-gjtwP4ZLaqA/Tx3ISjAMq1I/AAAAAAAABVE/Tl_D9nEkjYI/s640/1.bmp)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-1NBkVHIo2-0/Tz8oMQjqJPI/AAAAAAAABYo/7LWa3FVJlFU/s640/100_2594.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on March 23, 2012, 01:56:44 PM
They're nice  :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Blue in vt on March 23, 2012, 08:32:50 PM
Agreed!  I wish I could get some historical gaming going in on y as...I'd buy a ton of these!

Blue
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on March 24, 2012, 04:09:44 PM
The Perry's ahve given a release date for the mounted men at arms. They will be available at Salute.

http://theminiaturespage.com/news/1266406620/ (http://theminiaturespage.com/news/1266406620/)


I was just going to post this! But too late.

I already have 15 Voland's Venetors (which is probably enough medieval knights for anyone), but I fancy some of these too.

Hilariously better value than any GW stuff.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 25, 2012, 08:55:47 PM
Looks like a 3-box deal gets a free mini ................. and there I was going for just the one box, because of all those Fireforge Knights and Templars and Sergeants ....................


I understand Dave Thomas will have the Claymore Castings medieval Scots pictured above too ...............

My shopping list at Salute is growing daily ....................

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 26, 2012, 07:41:58 PM
I was interested in something cjp posted in the B&P a while ago, and asked him about them - he pointed me to an old range called Fortress Figures, which he thought had died ..........

.......... well they had, but they have risen again.

http://www.fortressfigures.com/Fortress_Figures/Home.html

http://www.fortressfigures.com/Fortress_Figures/Products_of_the_Past/Products_of_the_Past.html

I've exchanged emails with Jeff Rodman and it appears he is back and planning remastering of some old moulds and new stuff.

Oh by the way htis is the Madponies picture that made me hunt

http://www.madponies.net/athena.html
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 27, 2012, 03:50:00 AM
I was interested in something cjp posted in the B&P a while ago, and asked him about them - he pointed me to an old range called Fortress Figures, which he thought had died ..........

.......... well they had, but they have risen again.

http://www.fortressfigures.com/Fortress_Figures/Home.html

http://www.fortressfigures.com/Fortress_Figures/Products_of_the_Past/Products_of_the_Past.html

I've got a bunch of the Hareballs figures. Somewhere hidden away in my basement is a "Night of the Lepus (http://"http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/night_of_the_lepus/")" themed Hordes of the Things army, in which they were used as beast elements.   :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on March 30, 2012, 08:59:18 PM
Have you all seen this?

http://manorhouseworkshopmindstalkers.wordpress.com/

Mordheim! Mordheim! Mordheim!
Price is reasonable, too.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on March 31, 2012, 03:33:17 PM
Very nice and perfect for Mordheim.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Marek on March 31, 2012, 09:25:54 PM
Very nice and perfect for Mordheim.

Indeed very nice, and certainly a good alternative to the 'lottery winners' version from Grand Manner...

http://www.grandmanner.co.uk/28mm_Convent_Bussaco_1810--product--301.html
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: patsy02 on April 01, 2012, 12:56:42 AM
I wonder what material he's using to sculpt those.
Brown stuff. And yes, these are what GW's models should look like.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on April 01, 2012, 09:35:49 AM
a good alternative to the 'lottery winners' version from Grand Manner...
http://www.grandmanner.co.uk/28mm_Convent_Bussaco_1810--product--301.html

Lol  :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: MiB on April 01, 2012, 10:13:14 AM
Have you all seen this?

http://manorhouseworkshopmindstalkers.wordpress.com/

Mordheim! Mordheim! Mordheim!
Price is reasonable, too.
Oh my... I need a gaming room, hell I just need some room *lusts*
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Blue in vt on April 01, 2012, 11:36:31 AM
 :::cheers:::

My Ratnik team has finished competeing in the Lead Painters League over at the LAF and now I can share them with you...they are just great figures

(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k285/csabick/3ee68d67.jpg)

Cheers,

Blue
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on April 01, 2012, 02:26:12 PM
Have you all seen this?

(https://manorhouseworkshopmindstalkers.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/blog-sfondo-villa-base-dipinta-02.jpg?w=300&h=175)

Mordheim! Mordheim! Mordheim!
Price is reasonable, too.


Do we know any more about the material?

Material: Synto Stone (hard stone plaster similar  polyester resin )

I guess this is more sturdy than the hard foam buildings that I have seen?
The latter are quite light to pick up and feel so lightweight that I do not trust their durability.
Indeed the Weib seems to have got a hole in her one in her thread quite easily.


I'm not so convinced about the usage for Mordheim either - these are proper buildings for a town or manor scenery on a battle board, whereas Mordheim wants more damaged buildings for more access.




Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on April 01, 2012, 02:41:42 PM
Light weight isnt necessarily a bad thing if you are going to get a lot of use out of them, it makes them easier to carry when transporting them to clubs or a friends for gaming.
Heavier are much more inclined to damage themselves if they suffer the terror of being dropped. Resin smashes, cracks and splinters, and that takes a lot of work to put right.
The lightweight options are more likely to bounce and not break.
When packing the car/van the heavier options have to be padded out to stop them from landing on other more delicate items but you cant put them at the bottom in case they in turn get crushed by something heavy (like a box of juggernauts etc.)
I tend to buy the lighter options but not 'too' light. Definitely not flimsy.

I think for lift off roofing the heavier options tend to be better, but for necromunda and Mordheim the robust but lightweight options are better.

If you are going to keep your terrain at home permanently then the heavier options are just as good as any others.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on April 01, 2012, 02:43:39 PM
My Ratnik team has finished competeing in the Lead Painters League over at the LAF and now I can share them with you...they are just great figures

Too bad they are metal, because like all their minis, these are ace.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Blue in vt on April 01, 2012, 02:47:10 PM

Too bad they are metal, because like all their minis, these are ace.

That sir is blasphemy!

They are wonderful... You give them
A try anyway!

Blue
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on April 01, 2012, 04:39:48 PM
I'm not so convinced about the usage for Mordheim either - these are proper buildings for a town or manor scenery on a battle board, whereas Mordheim wants more damaged buildings for more access.

Take a look at http://www.monolithdesigns.co.uk/medieval2.htm (http://www.monolithdesigns.co.uk/medieval2.htm)

(http://www.monolithdesigns.co.uk/mt2507ba.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on April 09, 2012, 11:48:44 AM
Badgers !
http://www.frpgames.com/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=65479
Does anybody know what scale these might be?

I'm hoping they are big enough to be a nice size to carry my Dwarf riders so I can have some Dwarf Badger cavalry.
They will have the westwind berserkers riding them, as I have removed some from my many razorback riders.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on April 10, 2012, 11:11:09 AM
Some pictures of the recent 4Ground offerings they have released that I picked up at a do last month

(http://www.napoleonicassociation.org/4ground/TFC.jpg)
(http://www.napoleonicassociation.org/4ground/Roman_Tower.jpg)
(http://www.napoleonicassociation.org/4ground/TownHall.jpg)

I used their render on the timber framed cottage and although not so keen when applying it, it made a difference when painting.

All three of them have the window and door add on sets (although the door isn't on the jail yet)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on April 10, 2012, 02:03:00 PM
Quote
All three of them have the window and door add on sets

Can you elaborate on that?

I have looked at their website, and the pictures, and I believe Colonel Bill's is stocking them at Salute.

However is it fairly flat or do the beams actually stand out a bit?
You mentioned 'render' so I assumed you added it between the beams?

I think on another forum I saw oneof their buildings where someone had added a 'balsa beam' on top of the existing beam - to give more depth.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on April 10, 2012, 02:35:22 PM
Quote
All three of them have the window and door add on sets

Can you elaborate on that?

I have looked at their website, and the pictures, and I believe Colonel Bill's is stocking them at Salute.

However is it fairly flat or do the beams actually stand out a bit?
You mentioned 'render' so I assumed you added it between the beams?

I think on another forum I saw oneof their buildings where someone had added a 'balsa beam' on top of the existing beam - to give more depth.
The beams actually sit back a little as they are etched out. This is actually more in keeping with some of the genuine buildings
(http://s0.geograph.org.uk/photos/94/34/943487_29788ccc.jpg)
From my nerdy research when looking at painting stuff, it seems to be that in most cases the buidings with more prominent frames are mock Tudor, and the wood was added after the fact to make the building look Tudor.
Although I was contacted by a pub just outside Manchester who was looking at putting on a show to celebrate their 400th anniversary, and they have a genuine Tudor building with a mock tudor facade

Yes, I added base render between the beams to give a bit of texture to add depth when painting.

This one has been made from taking one of the base “silhoutte” (no etched grain) buildings and adding balsa to it. Thatch made from a towel
(http://homepage.ntlworld.com/roweller/witchhunter/IMG_1764.jpg)

Instructions for towel thatch here
http://www.mediafire.com/view/?ev2p4feg19lsf21 (http://www.mediafire.com/view/?ev2p4feg19lsf21)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: TheElectorCount43 on April 10, 2012, 09:37:03 PM
Probably already mentioned, but I like them  :-)
http://store.warlordgames.com/thirty-years-war-swedish-regiment-5111-p.asp
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on April 11, 2012, 10:48:24 PM
http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/65143/sku-down/65143

I'm thinking this might find its way into a few armies unhappy with the size of the new Gryphon . . .
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: cjp on April 12, 2012, 02:13:57 AM
I'm not sure if Warploque has made it up here yet, be he's launching off on his human race for his own fantasy world, and some folks may be interested in what he's working on:


(http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/vv191/WarplockM/DSC04270.jpg)
(http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/vv191/WarplockM/DSC04269.jpg)
(http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/vv191/WarplockM/DSC04265.jpg)

Not to mention his halflings:

(http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/vv191/WarplockM/DSC04261.jpg)
(http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/vv191/WarplockM/DSC04262.jpg)
(http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/vv191/WarplockM/DSC04263.jpg)
(http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/vv191/WarplockM/DSC04264.jpg)

www.warploqueminiatures.co.uk
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on April 12, 2012, 11:02:38 AM
Some really nice Ogres in here but I guess you can use some of the models for Empire too

http://titan-forge.com/ (http://titan-forge.com/)

http://titan-forge.com/fantasy_miniatures_bloodsail_island_bloodsail_island_warband_set (http://titan-forge.com/fantasy_miniatures_bloodsail_island_bloodsail_island_warband_set)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on April 12, 2012, 08:09:10 PM
Nice ogres, not to my taste but nice nonetheless.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on April 13, 2012, 06:54:04 AM
I didn't think starting an entire new thread on this would be a good idea but does anyone know of any alternative models that would work to complete some old dogs of war units? specifically Riccos republican guard and the alacanti fellowship? Thanks  :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: shavixmir on April 13, 2012, 08:30:19 AM
http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/store/home.php

They do loads of ranges - anyone bought their minis?

Yes. I'm building my 40K Tallarn army, using their modern-warfare Afghan / Taliban minis as the basic troops.
I've even given some of them plasma guns.
You'll see them end of April.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on April 13, 2012, 05:51:09 PM
I didn't think starting an entire new thread on this would be a good idea but does anyone know of any alternative models that would work to complete some old dogs of war units? specifically Riccos republican guard and the alacanti fellowship? Thanks  :::cheers:::

Midaski is your man for that stuff.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 13, 2012, 07:29:42 PM
I didn't think starting an entire new thread on this would be a good idea but does anyone know of any alternative models that would work to complete some old dogs of war units? specifically Riccos republican guard and the alacanti fellowship? Thanks  :::cheers:::

Both are tricky.

First, there weren't a whole lot of pikemen with that degree of armour - especial the complete, full plate of Riccos. Additionally, the Alcatani helmets are a bit a historic. You might be able to recreate them by using some armoured late 15th century pikemen, but swapping the heads with some ancient greek hoplites. As for Riccos, maybe converting some other heavy infantry (dismounted knights) to use pikes instead of the usual varieties of "greatweapons."

You might look at The Assault Group (TAG) and Front Rank for some figures for conversion.

TAG also does fairly convincing replacements for the DoW Lost Legion pikemen, IIRC.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on April 14, 2012, 12:49:20 AM
Thanks for the lead! If I find anything of note I'll post it on this site and DOW online in case other people would like to know.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on April 14, 2012, 02:49:05 AM
These guys might do:

(http://www.crusaderminiatures.com/images/mew003.jpg)

http://www.crusaderminiatures.com/prod.php?prod=198&cat=5&sub=16&page=1

Only 4 poses, but could supplement a unit.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on April 14, 2012, 04:41:48 AM
Thanks Timbor!
http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/store/product.php?productid=2528&cat=124&page=2
these ones here could work for Marksmen unit fillers.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on April 14, 2012, 12:39:37 PM
I think I would look at the Perrys WotR stuff for Ricco's as well

(http://www.perry-miniatures.com/oscthumb.php?src=YtagzcmV6KHFhY1koJCa5dk.&w=540&h=190.47272727273&f=jpg&q=95&hash=e03fafe9cef6a8fc97b2d3624e8f6883)

WR14 Men at Arms / Knights


(http://www.perry-miniatures.com/oscthumb.php?src=YtagzcmV6KHlpZyq3sFhqqDYo9Q.&w=540&h=197.48571428571&f=jpg&q=95&hash=1836273bc0aa421c15151304099aaa89)

WR15 Men at Arms / Knights

http://www.perry-miniatures.com/index.php?cPath=23_34

and I think there are a few heavily armoured bodies on their plastic WotR kits
(http://www.perry-miniatures.com/oscthumb.php?src=YtagzcmV6KGwU59pmqyAvA..&w=540&h=434.94545454545&f=jpg&q=95&hash=22be82e837b7ea6eddad3bf88a4d0a2f)

That's one of the sprues, but you can have a hunt around for the others on their site.

I do really like TAG too - they're Italian stuff has very much the flavour of GW DoW units like Marksmen of Miragliano, Bronzino's crew.

As to the Alcatani fellowship I agree with the earlier suggestion - they are a mix of 'eras' so armoured bodies and use some more ancient style heads - try Warlor Games and their Immortal plastics, or Wargames Factory and their Amazons/Greeks. You'll probably get the pikes too with the plastic kits.





Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: sirolf on April 14, 2012, 06:27:36 PM
You could use these heads for the alcatani felowship

http://www.spikeybits.com/servlet/the-6333/Scibor-cln--Spartan-Heads/Detail
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on April 14, 2012, 07:04:10 PM
Wow thanks. I never thought I would get this much help. I will have to post pictures of how it turns out once I actually finish making them.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on April 16, 2012, 10:46:23 PM
While it is a different scale to what we do normally, a lot of the stuff from The Lost Battalion is really nice - I recently ordered some 90mm heads for my Demigryph Spinxes, and they arrived today. They are really lovely sculpts.

His website is down for maintenance right now, otherwise I would totally link to it.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: sirolf on April 18, 2012, 05:41:05 AM
http://theminiaturespage.com/news/?id=1062460989

Take a look!!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on April 18, 2012, 05:55:28 AM
I am grateful to the Perry miniatures company for introducing more cheap plastic miniatures into the historical ranges and helping, along with other small-ish companies, to break the expensive stranglehold that Foundry had over the historical 28mm market for quite a while.
Interestingly Foundry are still expensive and their new ranges are not up to their standard of old.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 18, 2012, 02:32:48 PM
I am grateful to the Perry miniatures company for introducing more cheap plastic miniatures into the historical ranges and helping, along with other small-ish companies, to break the expensive stranglehold that Foundry had over the historical 28mm market for quite a while.
Interestingly Foundry are still expensive and their new ranges are not up to their standard of old.

Totally agree.

I also appreciate that many of them are former Foundry sculptors who are still turning out the same high quality figures, but have now "cut out the middle man" and have more control over their lines. Everybody wins!





Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on April 18, 2012, 03:38:34 PM
Those Perry men-at-arms are lovely models; I expect to see a LOT of those in Empire armies!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: TheElectorCount43 on April 18, 2012, 04:05:58 PM
http://store.warlordgames.com/star-fort-7769-p.asp
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on April 21, 2012, 09:43:18 PM
Anybody checked out these guys before, I saw them at Salute today and they were unbelievably cheap.
Also the product weighs next to nothing and would be awesome for carrying and transporting but check out the prices... :-o :icon_eek:

http://www.amera.co.uk/product.php?range=f
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on April 22, 2012, 12:17:27 AM
I've seen their site before, they have some nice stuff.  I keep meaning to order some of their island sets to use with uncharted seas.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on April 22, 2012, 03:51:50 PM
Hah Bingo! Thats exactly what I was thinking. Vety cheap and lightweight and nice looking islands, can't go wrong.  8-)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: FR1DAY on April 22, 2012, 03:53:21 PM
i've got some. a great base to terrain but you need to invest some time on them to make them look good
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on April 22, 2012, 04:20:53 PM
Yep thats the trade off, but if you have the materials and as you say the time then it's a very cost effective investment.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on April 22, 2012, 08:12:16 PM
I saw them - I just feel that they are a bit too lightweight.
I cannot see them standing up to too much heavy treatment, and maybe the inverstment in paint and flock time is risky.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on April 22, 2012, 08:27:04 PM
Hah Bingo! Thats exactly what I was thinking. Vety cheap and lightweight and nice looking islands, can't go wrong.  8-)

That and the islands are specifically designed for US.  I was linked to the amera site from the spartan games blog a while back.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: FR1DAY on April 23, 2012, 06:04:05 AM
I saw them - I just feel that they are a bit too lightweight.
I cannot see them standing up to too much heavy treatment, and maybe the inverstment in paint and flock time is risky.
They need more than paint and flock. They need the full make over. Plastikard, bits, layers of gravel and textured paint to make them table worthy.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on April 23, 2012, 04:06:24 PM
I am grateful to the Perry miniatures company for introducing more cheap plastic miniatures into the historical ranges and helping, along with other small-ish companies, to break the expensive stranglehold that Foundry had over the historical 28mm market for quite a while.
Interestingly Foundry are still expensive and their new ranges are not up to their standard of old.

They did have Rob Baker sculpting.

Which made you think, why pay Foundry prices for 1st Corp quality?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on April 23, 2012, 04:12:05 PM
I got some loose Foundry Swashbuckler Dwarfs on Saturday and they really are quite nice and imperial .... they must have been sculpted a while back then.    :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on April 23, 2012, 04:13:22 PM
I got some loose Foundry Swashbuckler Dwarfs on Saturday and they really are quite nice and imperial .... they must have been sculpted a while back then.    :engel:

It depends. How many elbows do the arms have?  :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on April 23, 2012, 04:20:51 PM
I got some loose Foundry Swashbuckler Dwarfs on Saturday and they really are quite nice and imperial .... they must have been sculpted a while back then.    :engel:

It depends. How many elbows do the arms have?  :icon_mrgreen:


(http://www.foundryfantasy.com/_images/thumbs/BHSBD1_1200x800.png?prodid=7935)

The two models to the left of the word Swashbuckler, and the one with the halberd, just above the sword guy's buckler - and then the sword one with the blue hood above the "ASHBU" -
 I had one of the lantern guy and two each of the others - I think they'll fit into my Imperial dwarf units quite nicely and for about 50p each.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on April 23, 2012, 05:15:41 PM
I forgot about the dwarf fatties.

At 50p each they are quite afordablethough and they are nice regardless of the anatomy - apart from the halberdier in the cream coat - there's a special place in hell reserved for that one.

I still love the old Marauder Imperial Dwarfs - they were cool.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on April 23, 2012, 08:09:45 PM
I too love the old marauder Dwarfs, and I love the Foundry fatties as well because for the longest time they were the only way of getting Dwarf Halberdiers. For me some of the Foundry ranges lack character but the Dwarf swashbucklers have character in spades.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 23, 2012, 09:27:53 PM
I still think they look like little bearded spheres with with chimp arms, and feet but no legs.  :-P

I will give you all that they have character. More so than some of the more recent figures. But I just wish they weren't so... spherical.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on April 24, 2012, 05:12:53 AM
Zero they are Dwarfs, they are not spherical they are ... *ahem*  rotund  :icon_eek: :-D :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on April 24, 2012, 09:26:03 AM
Low centre of gravity is all...they are fun figures thats for sure
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on April 24, 2012, 09:45:54 AM
Those Dwarves are really nice Midaski.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on April 24, 2012, 11:49:27 AM
(http://www.coolminiornot.com/shop/media/catalog/product/s/m/smog39_2.jpg)

alternative Witch hunter?

Those Smog! miniatures from Smart max, there is some nice steam punk in there.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on April 24, 2012, 04:35:13 PM
Nice sculpt, very steam punk
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 24, 2012, 07:14:46 PM
That is very nice. What scale, though? I thought (and I may be wrong) that line was a larger/odd scale.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on April 25, 2012, 05:50:53 AM
You are right 1/35...damn.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 25, 2012, 01:46:52 PM
The sculpt looks great, but whoever painted that is amazing.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on April 25, 2012, 02:48:47 PM
The rumour mill says that...
Mantic are going to be releasing not one, not two, but three different Human armies and the make up is believed to be...

An Army of Light - good guys, angelic aspect etc.

An Army of Nature - Druidic influence
An Army of Darkness - Chaos cultists?

The Army of Light is likely to be the candidate to interest the Empire collectors...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on April 26, 2012, 01:59:08 PM
A question to the worthy contributors of this thread but I am looking for some japanese/oriental type figures riding something like Foo Dogs/Kirin/Temple Lions etc.

Does anyone know of such figures available in 25/28mm?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on April 26, 2012, 02:13:29 PM
Years ago (late 80's) Citadel did (I think)

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(http://www.solegends.com/misc/east89flytemplex.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on April 26, 2012, 02:17:45 PM
Yeah I found them, and they are pretty much exactly what I am after...just I need them a bit more, well, available now.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on April 26, 2012, 02:22:00 PM
Okay, a bit fugly, but it could also be a dodgy paint job
http://www.blackhat.co.uk/online_shop/product_info.php?cPath=121_147_148&products_id=1515&osCsid=0a927a2438a7424efc14c8866cf5546a (http://www.blackhat.co.uk/online_shop/product_info.php?cPath=121_147_148&products_id=1515&osCsid=0a927a2438a7424efc14c8866cf5546a)
(http://www.blackhat.co.uk/online_shop/images/DK32.jpg)

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They also have Sandy, Pigsy, Monkey, and Tripitaka in the same range...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on April 26, 2012, 02:30:52 PM
They look kinda spot on.

I'd have liked them a little larger (to represent Demigriffon Knights) but hey, beggars cant be choosers.

Much appreciated Donnachaidh
  :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on April 26, 2012, 03:34:01 PM
Anybody checked out these guys before, I saw them at Salute today and they were unbelievably cheap.
Also the product weighs next to nothing and would be awesome for carrying and transporting but check out the prices... :-o :icon_eek:


I bought one of their pieces:

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-i1tIQzMETEc/Tjp-Z_HURTI/AAAAAAAAAfE/J7Rf1WSZbt0/s1600/IMG_3208.JPG)

http://corblogme.blogspot.com/2011/08/amera-ruin.html (http://corblogme.blogspot.com/2011/08/amera-ruin.html)

Didn't take too long as I obviously didn't do too much to spruce it up as I want to keep it generic enough for use other than a fantasy setting.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: scarletsquig on April 26, 2012, 03:45:42 PM
That Amera ruin turned out really nicely, think I'll make an order for some of their stuff sometime.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: strollinthewoods on April 26, 2012, 04:14:15 PM
My future wife in.  eh.. I mean engineer :blush:

(http://www.guildofharmony.com/gallery/automaton/greens/steampunk_tinker_belle.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Siberius on April 26, 2012, 04:53:51 PM
Are those Amera things good then? I am really tempted by the river as the sections are really cheap and it would save a lot of effort.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on April 26, 2012, 05:31:29 PM
Are those Amera things good then? I am really tempted by the river as the sections are really cheap and it would save a lot of effort.

To elaborate on the remarks I made earlier they remind me of those plastic inserts in packaging that hold various components in their own little sections. The plastic is pretty thin, - it's not far off the sort of plastic tub you would get such food as coleslaw, creme fraiche, or yoghurt in, but as Fr1day suggested it may be become stronger with paint, pva glue and flock.

I am not keen as I think I would forget and just put too much pressure on a piece or something heavy on it, only to hear a crack!

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on April 27, 2012, 12:50:02 AM
Are those Amera things good then? I am really tempted by the river as the sections are really cheap and it would save a lot of effort.


The plastic is about 1mm thick and not as fragile as a yogurt pot.

http://corblogme.blogspot.com/2011/07/amera-castle-ruins.html (http://corblogme.blogspot.com/2011/07/amera-castle-ruins.html)

I don't think it will crack if you put some weight on it, but it may bend and crack your paint.

Like I said they are quite reasonably-priced, so you may just want to buy a piece and see for yourself if they are worth investing in.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on April 27, 2012, 02:54:12 PM
They are light but strong and they sure won't crack into a hundred pieces if they are dropped. They also won't chip if they are knocked like resin terrain does.
I'm going to buy a bunch of them and see how they look painted and flocked because the price is so unbelievably cheap compared to buying heavy resin terrain.
I have four hobbit holes I adore in resin but they are heavy and would shatter if there was a mishap and they were £25 pounds each.  :icon_eek:
I could get ten of the Amera pieces for less than that and enough change to buy the paint and the flock etc.
I love the fact they are light as well because I travel to play games around the country and it's going to be great to do it with cheap lightweight terrain that can stack in the same single box.
I'll report back to let you know how I get on. :happy:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: _JC_ on April 28, 2012, 03:38:23 AM
Does anyone have some good suggestions for some swordsmen.  It seems most places only have pikes/halberds.  Also the cheaper the better
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on April 28, 2012, 03:52:56 AM
Does anyone have some good suggestions for some swordsmen.  It seems most places only have pikes/halberds.  Also the cheaper the better
There was a company called Zvezda some years ago that did a game called Ring of Rule IIRC they had a plastic kit that had swordsmen. I'm sure if you looked around on the internet you could turn up something.
Also welcome to the Forums!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on April 28, 2012, 07:07:45 AM
Does anyone have some good suggestions for some swordsmen.  It seems most places only have pikes/halberds.  Also the cheaper the better

The Zvezda Ring of Rule Royal Infantry is an option:

http://warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=27656.0 (http://warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=27656.0)

but they can be hard to find or the postage can be expensive (at least to where I am).

I'm planning to use Empire swordsmen arms on Perry Miniatures WOTR/Mercenaries bodies.

Mirliton is often mentioned:

http://www.mirliton.it/product_info.php?pName=swordsmen&cName=fantasy-2528mm-humans (http://www.mirliton.it/product_info.php?pName=swordsmen&cName=fantasy-2528mm-humans)

as are The Assault Group:

http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/store/home.php?cat=1 (http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/store/home.php?cat=1)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on April 28, 2012, 07:20:54 AM
Zvezda make some very good gear but they can be a little bit small.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on April 28, 2012, 04:27:41 PM
Zvezda make some very good gear but they can be a little bit small.

Their Ring of Rule line is actually 28mm rather than 1/72, so it may be closer to GW scale. They do look like more effort to put together though.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on April 28, 2012, 09:32:55 PM
Well thats good news about the scale increase, you should be good to go in that case.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on April 28, 2012, 09:43:46 PM
My future wife in.  eh.. I mean engineer :blush:

(http://www.guildofharmony.com/gallery/automaton/greens/steampunk_tinker_belle.jpg)

Whoa. Hot. I have been pondering over that Guild of Harmony stuff for quite some time though, they have some very detailed sculpts.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 29, 2012, 01:47:43 AM


Wow, that was an old thread. In all that time, I have painted ONE of the Zvezda Royal Infantry figures & used it for an article in the Treachery & Greed newsletters.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/TnG/crossbwpav.jpg)

It's a decent figure, but not as nice as GW or Perry. However, they were dirt cheap -- or at least they were before the disappeared off the market.

I'm still disappointed I've never been able to find the elf sorceress in the swan boat, and regret not picking up the box of pegasi.


Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on April 30, 2012, 10:03:46 AM
I still think they look like little bearded spheres with with chimp arms, and feet but no legs.  :-P

I will give you all that they have character. More so than some of the more recent figures. But I just wish they weren't so... spherical.

I kind of agree with you. They are characterful models, but I thought they just didn't fit with the Marauder ones, the proportions being too different. I got rid of mine when I decided to commission my own range of landsknecht dwarfs. Of course, your tolerance level for variations in size and style may vary and there are a couple really cool models in the range.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on April 30, 2012, 03:17:53 PM
Dear God, new Foundry adventurers - they are so bad they suck and blow.

http://wargamesfoundry.com/fantasy_ranges/single_packs/adventurers/ (http://wargamesfoundry.com/fantasy_ranges/single_packs/adventurers/)

I can appreciate the thinking behind them...
Quote
Remember when your collection of Fantasy Models consisted of loads of Wizards, Thieves, Fighters, Paladins and Clerics, not to mention Female adventurers in fur Bikinis?
Well harping back to the good old days, well here is your chance to get hold of a load of CLASSIC style adventurer models.

Except the old figures were still better than these hideous abominations on the whole, and they had more character.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 30, 2012, 03:42:57 PM
OMG.  :ph34r:

Dropping from the best figures money could buy to some of the worst figures I've seen in 20 years. I just don't understand why they are doing this to themselves.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on April 30, 2012, 04:05:57 PM
Ït´s a shame, really. On a side note; I´m considering buying a load of their renaissance Ogres but I keep hearing bad things about their deliveries.
Can I trust Foundry? Or can anyone tell me if some other company are selling the Foundry fantasy ranges?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 30, 2012, 04:33:54 PM
Caliver book is in the UK.

http://www.caliverbooks.com/

I've ordered from them (and I'm in the US) and been happy with the delivery.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on April 30, 2012, 04:53:25 PM
Thanks! Not many pictures, but that`ll do.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on April 30, 2012, 05:53:07 PM
Caliver book is in the UK.

http://www.caliverbooks.com/

I've ordered from them (and I'm in the US) and been happy with the delivery.

They still have their oroginal shop in Southend, Essex, and they have a new store in Nottingham as well.
Dave is a nice guy and he generally shows up at quite a few conventions in the UK as well.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on April 30, 2012, 06:03:41 PM
They are pretty terrible

By that I mean really, really terrible.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Marek on April 30, 2012, 06:39:35 PM
Foundry are making me lose the will to live. Luckily I can find solice in the bible:
Gospel of John, chapter 11, verse 35.

Honestly, the blobbyman I made from blue-tac and a paperclip during my coffee break today has more right being casted than this crud.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 30, 2012, 08:04:18 PM
Thanks! Not many pictures, but that`ll do.

Just look around the Foundry web page, write don what you want then order from Caliver. If its not listed on the Caliver website, I'd ask -- they may be able to fill you order anyway.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on April 30, 2012, 08:24:50 PM
Gospel of John, chapter 11, verse 35.

I see what you did there :)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on April 30, 2012, 10:06:56 PM
OMG.  :ph34r:

Dropping from the best figures money could buy to some of the worst figures I've seen in 20 years. I just don't understand why they are doing this to themselves.

I would say.... they are...  uninspiring. :engel:
Who sculpted those?
Has Brian Ansell taken up sculpting?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on April 30, 2012, 11:44:05 PM
Some of them are pretty bad - the female adventurers would top my list, but some of the others are kinda neat.  I like the armoured knights.  Not enough to pay their price though.  I would say they are at least better then their new 'condottiere' range of minis.

I also agree that the renaissance orcs/ogres of theirs are fantastic.  I got a few from foundry directly without much of a problem.  I had them replace one orc I got that had a bad miscast.  It took them a while and a couple overseas calls to the UK for me to get them to send a new one, but they did.  Also, I had ordered a blister of ancients figures, and only 7 came in the pack when the webstore said 8.  They sent me a whole replacement pack for just the one miniature!  (Though the replacement pack had 7 minis instead of 8 as well  :icon_lol:)  Otherwise my orders came smoothly from the UK to Canada.  I just wait for them to have a 20-30% off sale and then buy enough for free shipping.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on April 30, 2012, 11:51:19 PM
Also... just looking at Caliver's site, their foundry orcs are more expensive in GBP than the foundry website.  The ogre desperadoes (orcb001) are 25gbp from Caliver and 16.5gbp from foundry.  The foundry USD price is about $34, which is cheaper than the conversion of 25 gbp (roughly $40).  So, if you are interested in the renaissance ogres and orcs, I suggest waiting for a foundry sale, then either buy enough to get free shipping or buy a book or something with the ones you like.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on May 01, 2012, 01:23:22 AM
Who sculpted those?
Has Brian Ansell taken up sculpting?

Didn't he actually do some sculpting back in the early days?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on May 01, 2012, 02:00:11 AM
They are rather expensive, and I while I can't quite put my finger on what is wrong with them, there is something wrong with them.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on May 01, 2012, 07:02:03 AM
Also... just looking at Caliver's site, their foundry orcs are more expensive in GBP than the foundry website.  The ogre desperadoes (orcb001) are 25gbp from Caliver and 16.5gbp from foundry.  The foundry USD price is about $34, which is cheaper than the conversion of 25 gbp (roughly $40).  So, if you are interested in the renaissance ogres and orcs, I suggest waiting for a foundry sale, then either buy enough to get free shipping or buy a book or something with the ones you like.

Do they have sales on a regular basis?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on May 01, 2012, 01:26:15 PM
Who sculpted those?
Has Brian Ansell taken up sculpting?

Didn't he actually do some sculpting back in the early days?

He sculpted the Asgard range and early Citadel. I found an old citadel figure the other day (year) with his name on th underside of the base to show he sculpted it.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on May 02, 2012, 02:45:50 AM
Also... just looking at Caliver's site, their foundry orcs are more expensive in GBP than the foundry website.  The ogre desperadoes (orcb001) are 25gbp from Caliver and 16.5gbp from foundry.  The foundry USD price is about $34, which is cheaper than the conversion of 25 gbp (roughly $40).  So, if you are interested in the renaissance ogres and orcs, I suggest waiting for a foundry sale, then either buy enough to get free shipping or buy a book or something with the ones you like.

Do they have sales on a regular basis?

Foundry seems to have a sale a few times a year.  Last Christmas their entire range went on sale for 20% off, then 25% off, then 30% off for a few days around Christmas and boxing day.  They also had a 20% off sale earlier this year.  You have to order about $100 worth of stuff to get free shipping though.

I did recheck the caliver site, and for some reason the mercenary orcs (not ogres) are priced the same as the foundry site for GBP - 10GBP for a pack of 3.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on May 02, 2012, 02:52:32 PM
Foundry are constantly on sale. Brian Ansell is in a hole of his own making.
I get spam from them every week notifying a new special or another sale or another discount.
Not interested.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on May 02, 2012, 03:37:32 PM
Especially when there sale prices just make them over priced
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on May 03, 2012, 01:46:24 PM
On this subject (I specifically found this thread to comment); is it a bad sign when Foundry offer me (the guy going a Greek-themed Empire army) 20% off their prices for Greek miniatures and I still go "Meh" after looking at them?

They just aren't very good - maybe it is the painting, but there is so much there which simply isn't nicely sculpted. The models are very heavy and thick; I can't think of a better description. They don't have elegance to them. One or two are nice, but not the majority of them.

And, in metal, they are too expensive for what they are - when there are plastic alternatives around for a fraction of the price which are easier to convert etc.

I would have been tempted by some of the female Greek "civilians" for unit fillers etc. (as priestesses etc.) but they all look like men in unconvincing drag . . .
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on May 04, 2012, 10:15:28 AM
Their new Greek mythology range ranges from really bad over mediocre to just about passable. However, their slightly older historical "World of the Greeks" range, which also has some mythological characters in it, is sculpted by Steve Saleh and still very good. Of course, Steve Saleh is now sculpting an excellent new Greek range for Gorgon Studios as well.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on May 04, 2012, 01:08:16 PM
Not sure if this is the right place for this, but I stuck Empire State troops arms onto Perry WOTR bodies.

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Pisjc2PHjME/T6O76Efi6VI/AAAAAAAAAF0/JJTmn0pNCOI/s1600/IMG_5574.JPG)

http://corblogme.blogspot.com/2012/05/perry-wotr-infantry-with-gw-arms.html (http://corblogme.blogspot.com/2012/05/perry-wotr-infantry-with-gw-arms.html)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on May 04, 2012, 02:17:50 PM
Of course, Steve Saleh is now sculpting an excellent new Greek range for Gorgon Studios as well.

http://www.gorgon-studios.com/

These guys?

Thanks for the tip - I'll take a look.

EDIT : Thanks for the tip doubly so!

Went there, clicked on "Mythic World" and this is what I see! http://www.gorgon-studios.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=13&products_id=10

The Oracle at Delphi! Which is exactly what I am patterning my Luminark after!

You win one free internet, sir!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: TheElectorCount43 on May 04, 2012, 05:25:49 PM
Not sure if this is the right place for this, but I stuck Empire State troops arms onto Perry WOTR bodies.

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Pisjc2PHjME/T6O76Efi6VI/AAAAAAAAAF0/JJTmn0pNCOI/s1600/IMG_5574.JPG)

http://corblogme.blogspot.com/2012/05/perry-wotr-infantry-with-gw-arms.html (http://corblogme.blogspot.com/2012/05/perry-wotr-infantry-with-gw-arms.html)
What do they look like with the halberds/spears from gw on them?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on May 04, 2012, 06:34:08 PM
Not sure if this is the right place for this, but I stuck Empire State troops arms onto Perry WOTR bodies.


Those work pretty well!


Their new Greek mythology range ranges from really bad over mediocre to just about passable. However, their slightly older historical "World of the Greeks" range, which also has some mythological characters in it, is sculpted by Steve Saleh and still very good. Of course, Steve Saleh is now sculpting an excellent new Greek range for Gorgon Studios as well.

Years ago I had the pleasure of painting a commission for a huge Foundry Greek army. While I realize those figures (the Saleh ones) arent to everyone's taste, I thought they were a pleasure to paint and looked great en masse.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on May 04, 2012, 08:52:03 PM
Went there, clicked on "Mythic World" and this is what I see! http://www.gorgon-studios.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=13&products_id=10

The Oracle at Delphi! Which is exactly what I am patterning my Luminark after!

It's a great model, I have one too. So many possible applications too. :happy:

They also make a good witchhunter in the "convention models" section:
(http://www.gorgon-studios.com/images/other/acon002.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on May 05, 2012, 09:18:33 AM

What do they look like with the halberds/spears from gw on them?
[/quote]

I only bough the sword arms because the Perry sets didn't come with them.

But looking at the sprues, the polearm arms have hands about the same as the sword arms, so they should fit.

http://www.fromboxtobattle.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=125&t=162 (http://www.fromboxtobattle.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=125&t=162)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on May 05, 2012, 09:36:02 AM
They also make a good witchhunter in the "convention models" section:

I quite like that.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: TheElectorCount43 on May 05, 2012, 08:04:14 PM

What do they look like with the halberds/spears from gw on them?

I only bough the sword arms because the Perry sets didn't come with them.

But looking at the sprues, the polearm arms have hands about the same as the sword arms, so they should fit.

http://www.fromboxtobattle.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=125&t=162 (http://www.fromboxtobattle.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=125&t=162)
[/quote]

So how wide is the body of the perry WOTR bodies compared to the gw statetroops?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on May 06, 2012, 02:15:56 PM


So how wide is the body of the perry WOTR bodies compared to the gw statetroops?
[/quote]

The Perry bodies are 66.5mm wide at the shoulders.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: TheElectorCount43 on May 06, 2012, 08:22:59 PM


So how wide is the body of the perry WOTR bodies compared to the gw statetroops?

The Perry bodies are 66.5mm wide at the shoulders.
[/quote]
66.5mm?
that's 6.65cm
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on May 07, 2012, 12:45:10 AM
dies are 66.5mm wide at the shoulders.
[/quote]
66.5mm?
that's 6.65cm
[/quote]

Sorry, sticky key - it's 6.5mm.  :icon_redface:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on May 07, 2012, 02:01:58 PM
Fantastic mini for Rufus

(http://www.beastsofwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Warlord-Hrolfgad-Loftsaddle-Dwarf-Griffon-Rider.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on May 07, 2012, 03:20:42 PM
Owl-griffon!

Amazing.  :Ohmy:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on May 07, 2012, 09:25:38 PM
The owl-griffin is OK, the dwarf rider is odd looking. But now you've made me track down the model & I'm looking at the rest of the Reaper Warlord line....

The Nefsokar range seems to have some potential alternatives for Al Muktar's DoW.

http://www.reapermini.com/Miniatures/Nefsokar/latest

Some other interesting figures in that line as well.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on May 07, 2012, 10:23:00 PM
I just remembered I need to get this now

(http://www.arcaneminiatures.co.uk/images/hordes-miniatures/PIP75039.jpg)


desperately
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on May 08, 2012, 01:04:48 AM

The Nefsokar range seems to have some potential alternatives for Al Muktar's DoW.

http://www.reapermini.com/Miniatures/Nefsokar/latest

Some other interesting figures in that line as well.

Between the Nefsokar and Wargods of Aegyptus, you can have a TK army or a Khemri BB team.  :icon_biggrin:

http://corblogme.blogspot.com/2011/09/ra-team.html (http://corblogme.blogspot.com/2011/09/ra-team.html)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Von Kurst on May 08, 2012, 09:14:29 PM

Between the Nefsokar and Wargods of Aegyptus, you can have a TK army or a Khemri BB team.  :icon_biggrin:

http://corblogme.blogspot.com/2011/09/ra-team.html (http://corblogme.blogspot.com/2011/09/ra-team.html)

Or a nice Mordheim warband.  :)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on May 09, 2012, 07:13:35 PM
REALLY nice-looking gryphon Lo, click! (http://www.shopatron.com/products/productdetail/Mythical+Realms+Griffin/part_number=800829/740.0.1.1.33308.72997.0.0.0?pp=12&)

(http://mediacdn.shopatron.com/media/mfg/740/product_image/e875bbdb875ebfa2c5d512e74f7d1a7c.jpg?1326316732)

I've seen it in the plastic - it is softer than model plastic, but would be firm enough if pinned to a good base (such as one of Tiny's (http://www.tinyworlds.co.uk/bases/resin-bases/square-bases/100mm-x-50mm-rocky-slate-chariot-resin-display-base)!)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: WallyTWest on May 10, 2012, 03:27:44 AM
I own that griffin, he is cheap and huge. I have him based up for Storm of Magic, nice model. I have toyed with the idea of a mount.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on May 10, 2012, 06:00:25 AM
...is cheap and huge.

Resisting temptation for imature "your mom joke..."  :engel:


I have him based up for Storm of Magic, nice model. I have toyed with the idea of a mount.

Strange, that's the same brand as the elephants I just bought. I glanced at the fantasy section, but didn't pay enough attention. I will have to look at it again. They're cheaper than the Schleich toys, too.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on May 10, 2012, 11:55:52 AM
I have fondled their cheap and huge monsters at Jo-Ann's house of excited women - they are very good indeed.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: WallyTWest on May 13, 2012, 12:19:50 PM
Let me post em....
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: WallyTWest on May 13, 2012, 01:01:50 PM
(http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x335/WallyTWest/133691228477452.jpg?t=1336912224)

The only problem is the stance on some of the monsters can be wide. I think the griffins legs land about 3" apart. But for the purposes of using these minis for Storm of Magic or informal awesome gaming they are outstanding. (and they come pre-painted!) They have some other monsters that I thought looked awesome.... If I was going to do it all over I would have done the mountain dragon and chimera instead of the griffin and green dragon.

An empire army with a pair of 12$ hydras is still an awesome idea....  :icon_lol:

The Chimera is Huge and not that bad a sculpt.
(http://mediacdn.shopatron.com/media/mfg/740/product_image/9401182d206fb012418bf4d43b19809b.jpg?1326316733)
This hydra is frankly amazing.
(http://mediacdn.shopatron.com/media/mfg/740/product_image/309deac7a20f559ee84e6375d433bf1e.jpg?1333256813)
I love this dragon so much!
(http://mediacdn.shopatron.com/media/mfg/740/product_image/80d6dc396d1bb34e3a29b63544eb33ba.jpg?1333256772)

They come pre-painted and look freaking awesome based. Most local players freak out when they see the bulk of the Dragon or the Cyclops, I have received lots of complements when I include them in Storm of Magic games. I really do recommend going this route. With a little bit of work the Griffin would work fine as a new empire mount.

I thought I would post two of my own favorite miniature manufacturers as of late.

(http://freeboardgamesnow.com/images/products/thumb/DEAL0578.jpg)
http://www.megaminis.com/
Mega Minis-
Great company and its run by this really nice guy named Dave. Honestly not the best sculpts in the business... but at the same time Im not the best painter on the Internets either. Most sculpts are under 2 dollars, and the Scribe, Merchant, Thief and Priest between the Swordsman and Ogre are all mega mini sculpts. If you are looking for a few camp followers and don't want to spend 200+ dollars I would go here... I have a baggage train for my 1000pt army that I have from here, perhaps I will paint it soon and post.

(http://shop.ramshacklegames.co.uk/images/dungerdon_barb_full_col_3b.jpg)
http://www.ramshacklegames.co.uk/
Ramshackle Games-
I saw this thing painted up like a week ago in Concord NH... it may be the miniature that converts me over to playing a chaos army as it would be a wonderful centerpiece. Besides that there are some really ugly sculpts and vehicles in this range, there are also some gnarly totally awesome things hidden all over the place. Check this range out its crazy! Sculpt scale is all over the place but in my experience it hardly matters.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: WallyTWest on May 15, 2012, 04:21:02 AM
And when people don't respond on this particular thread it either means you where way the hell off base or they are busy buying models...

hello? did I kill the conversation?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on May 15, 2012, 09:17:46 AM
hello? did I kill the conversation?

Urrrggghghhkkkkk...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: WallyTWest on May 15, 2012, 01:58:27 PM
Yup.... killed it.

I hereby promise to never "wallypost" in the "Other Manufacturers" thread again. Sorry Guys.
 :|
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on May 15, 2012, 03:38:54 PM
Not sure if this is the right place for this, but I stuck Empire State troops arms onto Perry WOTR bodies.
IMG
What do they look like with the halberds/spears from gw on them?

The guy third from the viewer's right is a Perry with GW halberd.
(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/padrissimus/PerryHalberdiers.jpg)
Some others may be, but he definitely is.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: TheElectorCount43 on May 15, 2012, 03:51:20 PM
Not sure if this is the right place for this, but I stuck Empire State troops arms onto Perry WOTR bodies.
IMG
What do they look like with the halberds/spears from gw on them?

The guy third from the viewer's right is a Perry with GW halberd.
(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/padrissimus/PerryHalberdiers.jpg)
Some others may be, but he definitely is.
Thanks, third guy back from the rank on the left is a gw halberd wielder too
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on May 15, 2012, 05:06:32 PM
And when people don't respond on this particular thread it either means you where way the hell off base or they are busy buying models...

hello? did I kill the conversation?


Or sick. And packing up to move.

I've been eyeing-up some of the other Safari figures. Considering the cheap price, they're pretty decent. As soon as I'm settled in the new house I'm anxious to get busy on my demi-not-griffins. Curious how convertible the material is, how well paint & putty will stick to it, etc.


I've bought some of the Mega-Minis animals. The pack of dogs is great, and they're definitely the go-to source if you're building a penguin swarm.  :-D I haven't tried any of their humans/humanoids yet. Maybe I should look into some of their civilians.


I picked up a Ramshackle figure a few years ago, and got a free sample of a mini version of that squig-like thing. (I gave it to a friend who has an O&G army.) The figures are OK. I was disappointed that there is a bit of a mold line where the two halves don't quite align. With all of that drapery, it will be hard to hide. Still haven't painted him. What do you think -- witch hunter?

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/hist08/rsg4.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/hist08/rsg1.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/hist08/rsg2.jpg)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on May 15, 2012, 05:29:10 PM
With a good paint job , it's doable. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: towishimp on May 15, 2012, 11:19:09 PM
And when people don't respond on this particular thread it either means you where way the hell off base or they are busy buying models...

hello? did I kill the conversation?

This thread is a little sporadic in posting.  People tend to post new stuff they find, a few people say "those look great, thanks" and then the thread quiets down until the next new pics are posted.  It's not you.  :-)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on May 16, 2012, 05:46:18 PM
hello? did I kill the conversation?
This thread is a little sporadic in posting.  People tend to post new stuff they find, a few people say "those look great, thanks" and then the thread quiets down until the next new pics are posted.  It's not you.  :-)

Ignore him. It *is* you.  :icon_twisted:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on May 25, 2012, 03:49:00 AM


(http://www.perry-miniatures.com/oscthumb.php?src=YtagzcmV6KHFhY1moJCa5dk.&w=540&h=238.37142857143&f=jpg&q=95&hash=bcb605679d8e6f71f562c0857aaab322)

http://www.perry-miniatures.com/product_info.php?cPath=23_34&products_id=2723

Perry brothers supply liquid courage for your troops! I see an Imperial Brew Train on the horizon...

edit: Ah! Some Italian figures as well... http://www.perry-miniatures.com/index.php?cPath=23_64

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on May 25, 2012, 02:25:01 PM
Very nice, put that one on the Perry's tab.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on May 26, 2012, 01:08:49 AM
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Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on May 26, 2012, 07:42:40 AM
Hmmm... good time to pick up more Camel riders for my Crusades period Army of Islam.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: patsy02 on May 26, 2012, 12:14:27 PM
Most of their models look like GW's did 25 years ago. Their Bretonnians and Dwarves are alright though.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on May 26, 2012, 12:22:33 PM
I think that's part of the charm though, for those of us who like that period.  You want some old school savage orc units?  Theirs look like they would mix in nicely.  Their dwarf greatbeard warriors have a nice imperial feel, and fit in pretty nice with the marauder dwarf imperial ironbreakers and hammerers.  Some of the figures are just awful, but lots are quite nice.

For the price, their historicals are pretty sweet too IMO.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on May 26, 2012, 02:03:11 PM
I think that's part of the charm though, for those of us who like that period.


That is exactly right.
I much prefer that look to the angular plastics coming out of GW's CAD machines.

Some of the figures are just awful, but lots are quite nice.

Agreed they do have some shockers in their catalogue, but then you can say that about any figure manufacturer.
Their big hydra is an excellent model and very well priced.

For the price, their historicals are pretty sweet too IMO.

Those are what I particularly like from Black tree, they mix in well into the back ranks of units of other more expensive and slightly better sculpted historicals, but they also provide pose variation within a unit.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on May 26, 2012, 02:41:32 PM
Not to be a wet blanket, but many years back when they had a big sale there was a lot of unhappiness amongst members of the TMP over the time it took for their orders to arrive and how BTD responded to that. I'm not saying don't order, but it's probably reasonable to expect a long turnover time.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on May 26, 2012, 03:04:02 PM
I have bought a few times off them in the last couple of years or so, and they have got better - they still take anything from 2-4 weeks, but their operation is split across Texas in the USA, Cornwall in England, and they use Grendel in Scotland to spin some of the minis.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: WallyTWest on May 27, 2012, 04:46:01 AM
2 years ago I ordered some dwarves for my birthday when I was 25...

I received the last of them the following year when I was 26... they took their sweet time getting them to me...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on May 27, 2012, 06:56:39 AM
They are not rip off artists, they are honest and they can be slow, sometimes.
I have never had anything take longer than 2 weeks to arrive from BT, but I understand others have had issues.
I ordered an in stock product from Wayland games and it took a month to arrive when I would expect a three day turn around.
I order historical miniatures from BT so speedy delivery is not essential.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on May 27, 2012, 07:56:54 AM
Black ree has never let me down, and I have quite a lot of their stuff.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on May 27, 2012, 09:22:22 AM
I am a Premium member and I get the weekly newsletter.
I pick and choose when they have stuff on offer and you can generally buy at 35% or more if you wait.
So again like JN I am not in a rush to get the stuff.

The only thing I really suffered on was an order for Spahi cavalry where they had lost the champion mould - however they asked if I wanted to swap and gave me a bonus pack as compensation.

They can be slow but they are reasonable to deal with - responding to emails.

I must admit I did place an order last night ............ their cavalry is usually exempt from most of their special offers so I waded in with some Late Romans, Normans, and a few Saxons and Vikings.

I had some spare cash as GW didn't get much money out of me at new Empire time ................

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on May 27, 2012, 03:12:45 PM
Sorry - my point was that with a huge discount orders can be overwhelming and they may take longer than usual to cast and then post the orders, not that they are routinely slow
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on May 27, 2012, 03:38:09 PM
I had some spare cash

I'll have that!  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on May 27, 2012, 03:41:44 PM
I had some spare cash

I'll have that!  :engel:

Yeah but they had 50% off for the weekend and you didn't .......................

Your price will still be the same next week.

 :engel:

PS. Did you get your package - I posted it Saturday the 19th.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on May 27, 2012, 04:20:59 PM
I got the email too, and was tempted. But I really need to exercise some restraint and keep working on the figures I've got.

I'm a little wary about ordering as well. I did get everything on my one other order direct from them, but it took several shipments over the course of many months, and only after repeated emails and phone calls. From reviews/comments online, it sounds like they've improved service in the last year or two, though.

As far as the fantasy figures, the reason they look like old GW figures is that they were doing what Mantic is doing now: trying to ride GW's coat tails. The kicker was, of course, that some of their sculptors were the same sculptors who had done some of the GW figures that were being emulated.

In general, I think they've got a lot of good figures. I don't like them all, but many are anywhere from good to great. I'm very tempted to buy boatloads more ancient Germans for my historical German & fantasy barbarian armies -- but will probably wait til next time. Some of the fantasy barbarians are also tempting -- I love the guy wearing the horned deer scalp.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on May 28, 2012, 08:04:05 AM
They can be slow but they are reasonable to deal with - responding to emails.

They do have good customer service when those little issues arrise.

I ordered a Late Roman cavalry unit pack and was a little dismayed to find it was spread throughpout the types of cavalry and not just the heavy cavalry that I imagined due to the one cavalry figure they had as the picture for it.

They sent me the heavy cavalry figures I wanted free of charge, and although they didn't ask me to, I did send them back the light cavalry as more than reasonable behaviour deserves to be met with the same.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on May 28, 2012, 08:24:07 AM
Yeah but they had 50% off for the weekend and you didn't .......................

Your price will still be the same next week.

Damned, flawless logic!  :biggriin:

PS. Did you get your package - I posted it Saturday the 19th.

Yes!  :happy:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on May 28, 2012, 08:54:09 AM
I want that Perry wine-cart!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on May 28, 2012, 08:59:03 AM
They can be slow but they are reasonable to deal with - responding to emails.

They do have good customer service when those little issues arrise.

I ordered a Late Roman cavalry unit pack and was a little dismayed to find it was spread throughpout the types of cavalry and not just the heavy cavalry that I imagined due to the one cavalry figure they had as the picture for it.

They sent me the heavy cavalry figures I wanted free of charge, and although they didn't ask me to, I did send them back the light cavalry as more than reasonable behaviour deserves to be met with the same.

Fair play to you.
Nice anecdote.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on May 31, 2012, 04:14:41 AM


I have no gaming use for this figure, and I'm not even playing any sci-fi games at the moment, but I think I'm going to buy this just because I want to paint one up, and I like robots...

http://freeboardgamesnow.com/demobot60mmtall.aspx

Sorry for injecting some sci-fi in what's usually been a fantasy/Empire themed thread. Uh.... look, I'm going to make this into a College of Engineers robosteammonkey......  :engel:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on May 31, 2012, 08:51:04 AM
http://www.reapermini.com/

Reaper are out with a new limited edition resin line.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on May 31, 2012, 09:54:26 AM
Nice, costly, not interested.

AoW is a much better firm to go after barbarian style.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 01, 2012, 04:04:42 AM
Cashing in on the popularity of "limited edition resin" from other lines like CMON?

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: cjp on June 04, 2012, 06:04:15 PM
Anybody checked out these guys before, I saw them at Salute today and they were unbelievably cheap.
Also the product weighs next to nothing and would be awesome for carrying and transporting but check out the prices... :-o :icon_eek:

http://www.amera.co.uk/product.php?range=f

I picked up a couple ruins pieces and they are crap. Not worth it. They are flimsy, the seams don't go together well at all, and no detail on the inside, so they look terrible.

I still have them the kits if anyone wants it for free.  ;)

some discussion of them here:  http://www.frothersunite.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=19648&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=amera&start=10

and some pictures of the pieces that formed my opinion of them here:  http://www.madponies.net/images/WIP/amera/
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: cjp on June 04, 2012, 06:06:41 PM
Fantastic mini for Rufus

(http://www.beastsofwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Warlord-Hrolfgad-Loftsaddle-Dwarf-Griffon-Rider.jpg)

Where is that owl head from?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: cjp on June 04, 2012, 06:10:11 PM
LeadAdventure has a new unit based on William Tell that I think will definitely excite some here:

(http://s019.radikal.ru/i644/1203/d2/8441d7933a4c.jpg)


(http://s05.radikal.ru/i178/1203/e3/ddb9cb5358cc.jpg)


(http://s54.radikal.ru/i145/1203/7b/fb15775e12b5.jpg)


(http://s019.radikal.ru/i627/1203/5b/a1b26d33c5c4.jpg)

(http://wk.frothersunite.com/misc/pics/lafwt1.jpg)

(http://wk.frothersunite.com/misc/pics/lafwt2.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on June 05, 2012, 01:40:27 AM
 :eusa_clap:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Badwolf on June 05, 2012, 03:59:30 PM
...I picked up a couple ruins pieces and they are crap. Not worth it. They are flimsy, the seams don't go together well at all, and no detail on the inside, so they look terrible...

I don't understand why you think them crap cjp. The chap in your linked thread had the same complaints as yourself. ie. flimsy, single-sided & difficult to assemble.... but they're sold as vac-formed terrain which says it all. If you were expecting clip-together quality then why buy vac-formed stuff which will obviously be a modelling project? If you don't want a big modelling project then you'd be better off looking at cast resin terrain or injection moulded plastic from someone like Conflix or Pegasus Hobbies; very nice stuff but obviously a lot more expensive. You get what you pay for.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 05, 2012, 05:19:01 PM

Where is that owl head from?

The whole figure is from Reaper. I'm too lazy to look for it at the moment, but I posted a link to it a page or two back.



Those Lead Adventure figures are amazing!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: cjp on June 05, 2012, 06:00:34 PM
You get what you pay for.

I found it to be a waste of money, even at the price they charge. Really, not worth using at all for how much trouble it is to even get the pieces to fit together and cut out the windows etc, not to mention how terrible it looks. You could get better looking stuff with cut-out cereal boxes, for less cost and at least equal, if not less work. Plus, you'd get breakfast out of it. :)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: cjp on June 05, 2012, 08:39:33 PM
Huh, didn't see it in that range, Zero23, but now that I know its reaper I was able to find it in the figure-finder, thanks!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: von Kalden on June 16, 2012, 12:38:15 PM
Perry war altar:

(http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r146/chicks_photos/Carroccio.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: TheElectorCount43 on June 16, 2012, 01:18:42 PM
http://www.curiousconstructs.co.uk/28mm_Colonial_Empire_Kits__amp;_Bits/cat1446090_1307458.aspx
Some white metal blisters for creating praetorian/mordian rough riders (ig)
based on late 19th british lancers, especially from the zulu war
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: towishimp on June 16, 2012, 02:19:16 PM
I'm liking that wagon!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on June 16, 2012, 05:42:24 PM
Second.

Little plastic Jesus is bound to become a classic.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on June 16, 2012, 09:53:14 PM
Also very much like the figures in the set. Great for dioramas/photos in campaign fluff.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 16, 2012, 10:01:57 PM
Agreed, cool set.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on June 18, 2012, 04:11:41 AM
Warlord games does some more kislev  :blush: (though the scale will be a bit small:

http://www.warlordgames.com/22070/preview-polish-winger-hussars/

(http://warlordgames.com/wg-images/winged-hussars/WIP-Polish-Winged-Hussars-a.jpg)

(http://warlordgames.com/wg-images/winged-hussars/WIP-Polish-Winged-Hussars-b.jpg)

(http://warlordgames.com/wg-images/winged-hussars/WIP-Polish-Winged-Hussars-d.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on June 18, 2012, 04:24:52 AM
Awesome! it doesn't say if they will me plastic or metal though.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on June 18, 2012, 06:28:21 AM
Those hussars had me smiling. I am dreaming about creating a swedish 30-years war army that I could use as an Empire army aswell.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: entombet on June 25, 2012, 06:10:50 PM
Hello there, i would like to start empire army based on Perry minies, i know they are bit smaller than regular gw pijama troopers but i wonder if anyone seen http://www.perry-miniatures.com/product_info.php?cPath=23_34&products_id=2476 (http://www.perry-miniatures.com/product_info.php?cPath=23_34&products_id=2476) those, can they be fielded as empire cannons?.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on June 25, 2012, 08:43:11 PM
Yes they can. They are a bit small, yes, but they look fine.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 26, 2012, 04:31:39 AM
The Empire cannons are almost more like big siege guns compared to most historical cannons. Although the Perry cannons might look a bit smaller, I think it's perfectly clear what they are supposed to be if used in the game.

Honestly, I think the entire Perry range is well done and would make a good alternate Empire army... sort of like a "historical" Empire army from the past, before they got all puffy & slashy.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on June 26, 2012, 07:30:26 PM
On a side note: them Perrys are expanding their italian range even further - new stuff added to the metal workbench. My Marienburger army may be forced - yes, forced! - to hire more Tileans.   :closed-eyes:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on June 28, 2012, 07:51:31 PM
Artwork for Conquest Games new Norman infantry

44 figures a box for £20

(http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad342/Conquest_Games/Norman%20Infantry/NormanInfantryforweb.jpg)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 28, 2012, 07:57:08 PM
What's with the guy in the lower left corner?

Like a medieval photobomber.

 :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on June 28, 2012, 09:05:31 PM
Artwork for Conquest Games new Norman infantry

44 figures a box for £20


 :-o I need 10 boxes!!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on June 28, 2012, 11:27:08 PM
Cool!

Now, for those of us not  blessed to live in the UK, just got this in from foundry:

A total review of Foundry's pricing policy

Quote
Dear Sir/Madam,

While you may not have noticed yet, things are changing at Foundry and we are the middle of a process of restructuring and reorganisation. This will include bringing back some old ranges and reintrodcuing some old packs that were inexplicably removed from others. This will all take some time but we want to return to being the company we once were. As a symbol of this we have reintroduced the English Civil War and Thirty Years War ranges.

Although some of these things will take some time to put into place, one immediate change we have made is to make sure that those ordering from outside of the UK will pay the same price as everybody else. It was a particularly bad policy that we have rectified as of today, no matter where you live in the world you will not pay more than our domestic customers.

Watch out for further changes in the future.

yours faithfully,

Neil Littlewood

I can't see how this is a bad move for us...  :biggriin:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 29, 2012, 01:10:10 AM
Just got the Foundry email. My first thought? "Is this one of the signs of the apocalypse?" If GW  prices go down next, I'm going to start preparing for the end.  :wink:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on June 29, 2012, 04:07:43 AM
Oh dear. My Order-in-Waiting just dropped from 300+ Euro to 250+. Do I dare wait for a sale, or do I strike? Price drops may mean no more big sale before christmas.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on June 29, 2012, 09:55:35 AM
I get the impression Foundry are struggling.

They still have some nice stuff from their older ranges, but compared to Perrys, Artizan, TAG, and even Crusader for example they seem very overpriced.
The only time or way to buy is during sales and/or their bulk deals, and even then their 'sale' price is still more expensive.

Artizan Landsknechts £9.60 for 8 figures   ( 4 models x 2 of each)
(http://www.artizandesigns.com/images/img1751.jpg)

Foundry Renaissance £12.00 for 8 figures  (2 models x 4 of each)
 (http://wargamesfoundry.com/_images/thumbs/SB36_340x223.png)

More variety gets you 6 models for the same £12.00
(http://wargamesfoundry.com/_images/thumbs/REN516_1318841687_340x223.png)

The owner - Brian Ansell ? - has supposedly been trying to sell it for some time, and I think there is a lot of agreement that their new stuff is quite poor.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on June 29, 2012, 12:00:54 PM
They are certainly still expensive. But those renaissance orcs are just too damned good. I just thought, if they are indeed struggling - and yes, I think they are - do I dare to wait for a sale? They may go out of business....
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on June 29, 2012, 07:52:03 PM
If you like them try this guy - he's a reputable show trader who I have dealt with for many years.

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/The-Dave-T-Shop/FANTASY-SCI-FI-/_i.html?_fsub=312412819&_sid=175535339&_trksid=p4634.c0.m322

He bought vast stocks of old blisters of them, and nowadays has limited models from the whole range which Foundry have revamped, but you may get some in your collection at a better price.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on June 29, 2012, 09:04:45 PM
Thanks, that was helpful - I found a couple that is not even on the Foundry webpage! Anyway, I did just go ahead and placed a large Foundry order. Hope they don´t let me down....
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on July 05, 2012, 10:37:44 AM
(http://www.w6-tabletop.at/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Domina-of-Torment.jpeg)

This model is so much better than the GW Mask of Slaanesh. This makes me want to play a demon army.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on July 05, 2012, 03:55:38 PM
If you like them try this guy - he's a reputable show trader who I have dealt with for many years.

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/The-Dave-T-Shop/FANTASY-SCI-FI-/_i.html?_fsub=312412819&_sid=175535339&_trksid=p4634.c0.m322

He bought vast stocks of old blisters of them, and nowadays has limited models from the whole range which Foundry have revamped, but you may get some in your collection at a better price.

I wonder if he has any of their Elven Spearmen...I do like them but as has been said, they are still too pricey.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on July 06, 2012, 08:22:03 PM
More interesting news from Foundry:

Quote
Dear all,

It’s been another busy week here at Foundry, with our great reorganisation process well under way.

One immediate issue we’ve been looking at are our postal prices and we were pleased to find that shipping abroad has dropped phenomenally in the last few years. So much so that as of today we can announce that the basic international postage rate has been dropped to £5.00. UK customers also benefit from this price review with p&p rates halved to £4.00. While this is a good start, we’re going to be putting a lot of effort into making it even cheaper in the future.

We can also announce that we have rereleased the massive Malburian and Franco-Prussian War ranges in their entirety, to sit alongside the complete English Civil War and Thirty Years War ranges. This represents literally thousands of models, with the Franco-Prussian range alone numbering 128 packs! It may take a little time to track down some of the more elusive moulds, but we plan on bringing back our entire back catalogue.

If you have any suggestions please feel free to get in touch.

Yours sincerely,

Neil Littlewood, Whirling Plenipotentiary.

www.wargamesfoundry.com

I don't see how this could be a bad thing for the hobby!  Now, if they only stopped charging international customers VAT on their orders, it would be near-perfect.  :engel:  I like a lot of their stuff, so I hope the re-structuring works out for them.  :biggriin:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 06, 2012, 09:26:26 PM
Good to see they're continuing to take steps in the right direction!  :eusa_clap:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: oak_prince on July 07, 2012, 07:49:02 AM
(http://www.fireforge-games.com/media/k2/items/cache/7a6fe08027b80ee08bda1ed60d73e334_XL.jpg)
Fireforge's new plastic Teutonic knights.  :icon_eek:

(http://www.studiominiatures.com/media/k2/items/cache/233826a67be66a810b23a263230da62e_L.jpg)
Studio Miniatures' new plastic Nazi zombies.

I... think I've finally recovered from the Warhammer Bug. Why pay double/triple for GW's hit-or-miss models? Other than the fact that Warhammer has a significant number of players unlike every other wargame...  :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on July 07, 2012, 05:42:07 PM
I just had a very good experience with Fire and Flames (http://myworld.ebay.com/from_fire_and_flames?ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1181). I bought the wrong thing and they were super good about sorting it out. I recommend these fellows as being excellent examples of customer service.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on July 07, 2012, 09:34:20 PM
I just had a very good experience with Fire and Flames (http://myworld.ebay.com/from_fire_and_flames?ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1181). I bought the wrong thing and they were super good about sorting it out. I recommend these fellows as being excellent examples of customer service.

I've met him - Paul is a very nice guy, and I have several of his halflings ...................

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on July 08, 2012, 11:15:05 PM
Just came across these guys http://www.sbarber-models.clara.net/main.html - there might be something there someone finds interesting.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: towishimp on July 08, 2012, 11:55:08 PM
Just came across these guys http://www.sbarber-models.clara.net/main.html - there might be something there someone finds interesting.

I'd love to check them out, but my work computer blocks the site.  Reason: "pornography."  What kind of figures are those, Darknight?   :wink:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on July 08, 2012, 11:59:12 PM
They aren't what would commonly be called pornographic, is the short answer! :)

They are just general sorts of figures - he has some Napoleonics, some ancients of various sorts, some scenery, lots of 25-28mm and some 10 and 15s.

But a distinct lack of bare boobies, to be honest. Bare boobies is, in my view, one of the pre-requisites for something being designated as pornography. YMMV, of course.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: towishimp on July 09, 2012, 12:06:34 AM
They aren't what would commonly be called pornographic, is the short answer! :)

They are just general sorts of figures - he has some Napoleonics, some ancients of various sorts, some scenery, lots of 25-28mm and some 10 and 15s.

But a distinct lack of bare boobies, to be honest. Bare boobies is, in my view, one of the pre-requisites for something being designated as pornography. YMMV, of course.

It's not the first time this has happened...last time I was trying to look at a backpacking website lol!  I'll check it out when I'm at home.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: entombet on July 09, 2012, 05:45:33 PM
Well i got my guns from Perrys and the minis are sweet, gun is small comaring to gw standards but i like it it's much more realistic and will be great when i start my perry empire based army. I plan tu use gw minis in smallest numbers i can.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: towishimp on July 09, 2012, 10:46:42 PM
Well i got my guns from Perrys and the minis are sweet, gun is small comaring to gw standards but i like it it's much more realistic and will be great when i start my perry empire based army. I plan tu use gw minis in smallest numbers i can.

I love my Perry mercenaries.  I got two boxes awhile back and made 36 pikemen and 20 crossbowmen out of them, for about the price of one box of 10-20 GW models.  Great stuff.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on July 10, 2012, 05:54:21 AM
Darknights site has a naked cyclops with dong showing.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on July 10, 2012, 06:48:58 AM
Darknights site has a naked cyclops with dong showing.

I love how nonchalantly you say that!
There are also the bare chested harpy and medusa on the same page.
I really like the cavemen models on there though.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on July 10, 2012, 03:41:24 PM
I was trying to look at a backpacking website lol!

Back. Packing.

I see.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on July 13, 2012, 04:58:40 PM
Is there anyone doing suitable plastic figures for the French Indian / Seven Years War?

I know about Wargames Factory's WSS minis and their are lots of Napoleonics out there as well - which would be better to use?

 (http://www.warlordgames.com/store/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/800x634/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/w/g/wg7-fiw-02-british.jpg)

http://www.warlordgames.com/23332/pre-order-french-indian-war-boxed-sets/?utm_source=Warlord+Games+Newsletter&utm_campaign=8d079d1112-Warlord_Games_Newsletter_13_July_20127_9_2012&utm_medium=email

http://www.warlordgames.com/store/french-indian-war-1754-1763-british-regular-infantry-boxed-set.html

Along with the Conquest Miniatures Woodlands Indians which look great with lots of poses, they have metal French and British figures which are pretty static and with limited poses, and it wouldn't surprise me if some of the figures are the same in each box.

You can see the 6 command figures per set, but they only show 6 of the other 12 per box.

The box art shows different poses - ie kneeling, but I doubt they are available.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on July 13, 2012, 05:59:01 PM
Hi Mark,

You are limited to metal I am afraid, but the guerilla campain was fought with very small numbers, barely breaking in to the hundreds on each side and were fought by the irregulars (or regulars who could fight as irregulars).

The set piece battles were few and far between, and were fought more on the lines as regular European battles.

Front Rank do a nice (if dated) range
http://www.frontrank.com/3_3_lev3_The_French_Indian_War.asp (http://www.frontrank.com/3_3_lev3_The_French_Indian_War.asp)

If you do wants something 18th century, the Perry's are doing plastic American Insurection shortly (ish)
Quote
The American Civil War Confederate Infantry will be next in line followed by the American War of Independence British Infantry.
(http://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/aw/AWI_-72.jpg)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Badwolf on July 14, 2012, 10:20:29 AM
Is there anyone doing suitable plastic figures for the French Indian / Seven Years War? ....

Have you perhaps been eye-balling the Muskets & Tomahawks rules?

Me too.  :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on July 14, 2012, 10:58:05 AM
Would those rules be good for King William's War and Queen Anne's War (late seventeenth and early 18th century)?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on July 14, 2012, 11:34:24 AM
Not if you were looking at the European theatre.

Beneath the Lilly White Banners is highly rated for that period.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on July 14, 2012, 12:00:02 PM
'King William's War' is the name for the American theatre actions of the 'War of the Grand Alliance' and 'Queen Anne's War' is what the colonials called the 'War of the Spanish Succession'. So, no, not for the European theatre, for the French and Indian wars.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on July 14, 2012, 04:57:22 PM
I got Muskets & Tomahawks yesterday for my birthday - 21 again .................. so it is a skirmish/warband set up.

I also had the Crusader Woodland Indians set deal from Northstar - but I do like those Conquest Minis.

I have a few Hessian style figures, but they are all posed with shouldered arms - very boring .......... and a sort of Trapper style Coureurs du Bois figure which I suppose I could use.


I shall have to pull out Last of the Mohicans on DVD   :engel:


The FIW and SYW were around 1754 - 1763 so only some 45 -50 years before Napoleonics -  are any of the Perry plastics remotely close to uniforms?
 


Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on July 14, 2012, 08:30:03 PM
Oh and also found this today .............

(http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad342/Conquest_Games/Norman%20Infantry/ConquestNormanInfantry.jpg)

New Conquest Games Norman infantry



(http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad342/Conquest_Games/Norman%20Infantry/ConquestNormans018.jpg)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Marek on July 15, 2012, 06:20:20 AM
...New Conquest Games Norman infantry...

And I finally get my Norman Saga warband. :icon_biggrin:
(I wonder if I pay them extra they'll agree NOT to send them in that horrible box artwork.)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: oak_prince on July 15, 2012, 07:24:12 AM
...New Conquest Games Norman infantry...

And I finally get my Norman Saga warband. :icon_biggrin:
(I wonder if I pay them extra they'll agree NOT to send them in that horrible box artwork.)

I'm still recovering from the Wargames Factory WWII Americans artwork: 
(http://wargamesfactory.com/Images/ProductImages/boxsets/wgf-w2002/wgf-w2002-box-sml.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on July 15, 2012, 11:07:37 AM
So back to the French & Indian War and the Seven Years War.

Would the figures some companies make for the SYW be appropriate for the North American campaign - I assume British and French troops would have been equipped pretty much the same whether they were in Europe or in NA.

I've been looking at the Crusader range

http://www.crusaderminiatures.com/list.php?cat=7&page=1

and aren't they all such limited poses - 90% shouldered arms.
The Austrian Grenz look ok but I suppose I have to 'invent' a reason for them to be in North America .................

(http://www.crusaderminiatures.com/images/sya031.jpg)

(http://www.crusaderminiatures.com/images/sya034.jpg)

(http://www.crusaderminiatures.com/images/sya033.jpg)


Northstar have posted a couple of pics but I cannot work out if these are samples of new models on the way or some existing Minutemen/Militia figures?

(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/306786_473773669318207_219148598_n.jpg)

(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/399441_473773695984871_943151162_n.jpg)

That is the sort of look I imagine I want?
I shall spend some Sunday afternoon Leisure time searching further ..........

 :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on July 15, 2012, 04:41:25 PM
I suppose I have to 'invent' a reason for them to be in North America

They could have come for the beautiful and spacious skies, for amber waves of grain, for the purple mountained majesty, or even the fruited plain.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: shavixmir on July 15, 2012, 07:54:16 PM
Camel riders.
I need camel riders for my 40K Tallarn army (rough riders).

Anyone any ideas?
Most of my troops are Taliban troops from the Assault group range and there's some Forgeworld Tallarn in there too (so you get the idea).
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on July 15, 2012, 09:11:25 PM
I remember seeing something about this before - here is a link to roughly the right area on this very thread; http://warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=31348.msg647122#msg647122

I think Black Tree Designs do some nice stuff.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on July 16, 2012, 10:00:22 AM
and a sort of Trapper style Coureurs du Bois figure which I suppose I could use.

You could do worse than Rangers on one side and milice, Independant companies of Marines (with the native look) and Indians on the other. Avoid Coureurs du Bois as they really were not that involved with the conflict.

Pick up the book "Battle on Snowshoes (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Battle-Snowshoes-Bob-Bearor/dp/0788406191/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1342432501&sr=1-2)" which is all about Robert Rogers getting the kicking of his life by Canadian partisans lead by Langy.

The FIW and SYW were around 1754 - 1763 so only some 45 -50 years before Napoleonics -  are any of the Perry plastics remotely close to uniforms?
Not even close. The new AWI stuff they are doing is based on the 1768 modifications - and even they are a world away from what was worn in the F&IW
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Marek on July 16, 2012, 06:05:50 PM
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Camel riders.
I need camel riders for my 40K Tallarn army (rough riders).


Maybe not quite what your after, but I think they are awesome!
http://hinterlandminiatures.weebly.com/storecart.html
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: zifnab0 on July 16, 2012, 06:16:40 PM
Camel riders.
I need camel riders for my 40K Tallarn army (rough riders).
Essex makes 25mm camels.
http://www.essexminiatures.co.uk/gal_aec15.html

Ebob also has some, relatively inexpensive, dromederies at 28mm.
http://www.ebobminiatures.com/products/fantasy.htm#2

Not sure which scale would work best for Tallarn.  Are they standard 25mm or heroic?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Badwolf on July 20, 2012, 08:06:31 PM
Camel riders ..... Anyone any ideas?

The old W-E camel question. There are quite a few useable camel figures out there but they differ wildly in interpretation between different companies.

Black Tree camels are big and cartoon-like (but then camels are one of the most rediculous looking creatures on this planet); perry's and ebob's are excellent sculpts but they will look under-sized next to a GW figure. Foundry?  G-t-F (a Glaswegian saying).

The big question is .... do you want static or dynamic poses? Armoured or un-armoured camels?

IMHO, have a look at A&A. http://www.aandaminiatures.co.uk/view_product/?p=44 (http://www.aandaminiatures.co.uk/view_product/?p=44)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: entombet on July 24, 2012, 06:52:41 PM
(http://img10.allegroimg.pl/photos/oryginal/25/07/22/45/2507224512)
Can anyone help me, is this steam tank complete?.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on July 24, 2012, 08:53:51 PM
I have no idea, never owned any of the models, but from the picture alone - where are the other set of wheels? Does the model have two pairs?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on July 24, 2012, 11:01:17 PM
It looks like it has enough pieces (based on assembling it in my head) with the exception of one of the front wheels (the "half-wheels") - I can only see one in there. Unless you are going to assemble it as some kind of "Reliant Robin Stank" (which might be rad) then you will need to replace that piece (a single plastic wheel cut in half would allow you to replace both front wheels with identical pieces, of course).
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on July 25, 2012, 09:39:31 AM
Red Box minis also have a kickstarter... I hope nobody else has posted them yet.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1103158358/red-box-games-helsvakt-horde (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1103158358/red-box-games-helsvakt-horde)

Right now only really interesting for Chaos and Bretonnians but for those two .....fantastic minis.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: entombet on July 25, 2012, 03:57:56 PM
Metal steam tank had one front wheel?.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 25, 2012, 08:13:44 PM
No, two. But they were only half-wheels because they fit onto the surface of the bottom of the hull.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: zifnab0 on July 26, 2012, 01:06:29 PM
Red Box minis also have a kickstarter... I hope nobody else has posted them yet.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1103158358/red-box-games-helsvakt-horde (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1103158358/red-box-games-helsvakt-horde)

Right now only really interesting for Chaos and Bretonnians but for those two .....fantastic minis.
Very nice.  I've been considering the Gynnade Krigare as Chaos Chosen, and this might be a good reason to jump in.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on August 01, 2012, 06:51:09 AM
Saw this guy's WIP here:

http://www.lead-adventure.de/index.php?topic=41974.0 (http://www.lead-adventure.de/index.php?topic=41974.0)

(http://www.lead-adventure.de/gallery/10/93_21_05_12_9_05_43.jpg)

Looks exciting.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on August 01, 2012, 06:04:44 PM
Saw this on the Wargames Factory page; Long URL is long (http://www.facebook.com/michtoy248?ref=mf#!/photo.php?fbid=10150949986206059&set=a.10150583534601059.375054.334302786058&type=1&theater)

Might be suitable for someone's army or something :)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on August 01, 2012, 09:08:18 PM
The Conquest Games Normans are on pre-order - due out around August 8th

Some more shots.

(http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad342/Conquest_Games/Norman%20Infantry/ConquestNormans019.jpg)


(http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad342/Conquest_Games/Norman%20Infantry/ConquestNormans021.jpg)

(http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad342/Conquest_Games/Norman%20Infantry/ConquestNormans016.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on August 01, 2012, 09:34:48 PM
stop it you're making my wallet cry  :eusa_wall:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on August 02, 2012, 03:51:54 PM
Some good news from Foundry:

Quote
Neil and I have spent the last couple of weeks reorganising the racks of blister packs here at Foundry in sunny Saint Ann's*.
Stock has been under pressure over the last couple of months as Ronnie (caster, mould maker and sculptor Ronnie) has often been pulled away to do other things.

Our plan was to make sure that we have at least eight blisters in stock of everything: even the not terribly popular codes, so we set about gathering moulds for the missing models and piling them up around Steve and Ronnie's casting benches.

We've only been working here for a month or two, and so it was interesting to discover all the models that we had never looked at properly before: and the ones that we hadn't even realised existed.

There is no current printed Foundry catalogue, so we were using old A5 size catalogues (perhaps 10 years old), and, navigating by catalogue it was soon clear that the contents of the packs in huge sections of the range had changed.

We knew that a number of packs from Foundry ranges had been withdrawn and replaced. But we were very surprised just how many packs of models have disappeared and had their place taken by often rather mundane substitutes.

Even small ranges have had a dozen or so packs removed; while hundreds are missing from the larger ranges (mostly those sculpted in the golden age of the eighties ). Despite its legendary status, enormous popularity and miraculous depth, even Michael and Alan Perry's marvellous Napoleonic range has been ripped apart and its ranks invaded by somewhat wonky imposters.

It's hard to see how all this has come about.

Neil insists that it can only be the work of dark forces.

One end of our building; the end built in red brick in 1861, used to be an abattoir (really). When Foundry first came here there were still old blood gutters running down to the big doors that lead to the street.

Neil' theory is that the combination of ancient dried blood (who knows from what source) and molten lead (that once sheathed the roof of eldritch temples) has drawn satanic creatures to our factory. Terrified Foundry staff must have been forced to participate in dark ceremonies; where boiling blood and bubbling ladles full of molten Napoleonic castings were offered to arcane daemonic creatures lusting after molten lead from only the very finest 28mm scale models, and thus denying those models to the human population of the Earth for eternity.

This is a very fine theory indeed, but I feel that we must look for a simpler explanation and solution; probably involving finding the moulds for the missing packs and putting them all back into production.

So, that is now our plan. We have indeed found a huge number of moulds that haven't been run for years, and there are a whole ranges that have been discontinued.

It's possible that some moulds have disappeared, and it is likely that some moulds might have worn beyond the point at which we would be comfortable selling models that had been cast from them, but we will almost certainly be able to get hold of their original master moulds and recast the masters. Recasting will be interesting as we now have more sophisticated techniques for casting masters and can produce more three dimensional, crisper models.

We will almost certainly start with Napoleonic's and, daemons permitting, we hope to get started next week.

There will be a delay between us having castings available and getting them on our website, but we will announce which models we have available on this page, so you will at least be able to order them by phone as soon as we have them cast.
Neil and I will set up a scheme that will allow you to order any models from any of our ‘discontinued’ ranges that we have a mould for.

We will be spending a lot of time going back and forth gathering up the old moulds for the casters and getting the reissued models on the hooks.

So, if you give us a call and tell us which models you need, we'll organise picking up the moulds for your models too, and when we have enough for a stack, we'll stick them in an oven, get them to temperature and hijack a caster to run them. This may take an extra day or three.

Ring us on: 0115 8413000

We can only apologise for all this and set about making the missing models available to you again. It must have been incredibly irritating to have been unable to finish regiments and armies when we switched the packs on you.

By the time you get this, hopefully the link below will lead somewhere interesting.
British Napoleonics

Marcus Ansell

*'Gun crime capital of Britain': apparently.

Quite a funny read.  I can only expect that bringing back their most popular lines will be good for them in the long run.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 02, 2012, 04:41:01 PM
Amusing, although the bit about "no one knows how this happened" was mentally translated as "someone doesn't want to take credit for bad business decisions of the past" as I was reading.  :engel:

But once again, at least they show that they are interested in trying to improve in the present, which is the important thing. I wish them luck in turning the company around.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on August 02, 2012, 06:51:48 PM
Indeed

Be nice to see this once great company back at the top.

Hope they drop their prices a bit...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on August 03, 2012, 11:45:28 AM
That can only be good news.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on August 03, 2012, 08:53:38 PM
(http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/487288_468401643179165_52503341_n.jpg)


(http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s720x720/553509_468401536512509_1964000170_n.jpg)


(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/418213_468407453178584_1032979262_n.jpg)



Go look at the rest of the pics on this facebook page .......... you can open one up with a double click and then you can scroll through 35 shots of what looks like one hell of a kit.http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.468400939845902.110536.271339052885426&type=3

They look promising.
I have all 3 mounted boxes and they are very nice.


As to the Foundry discussion - seems to have been some changes.
Rumour has had it for some years that owner Bryan Ansell had been trying to sell it - from the latest email newsletter it would appear a relative has taken over the running and been given some sort of power to shake it up.
Price has been a problem - unless you bought in a sale and in bulk basic minis were overpriced - and new stuff of the last couple of years has been of poorer quality than what had gone before.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on August 05, 2012, 09:47:38 PM
Those look really fine - I might be interested in a box or two . . .
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: commandant on August 06, 2012, 08:23:55 PM
Are they in shops or just online?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on August 11, 2012, 11:43:22 AM
If you have been thinking of getting Perry WOTR figures, now may be the time:

http://theminiaturespage.com/news/?id=1623982861 (http://theminiaturespage.com/news/?id=1623982861)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on August 13, 2012, 07:37:50 PM
The battleforge has released some imperial ogres:

(http://www.thebattleforge.co.uk/ekmps/shops/thebattleforge/images/imperial-ogre-with-club-x4-pack-355-p.jpg)

http://www.thebattleforge.co.uk/giants-ogres-and-trolls-38-c.asp

The pictures look interesting, it would be nice to see them with a good paintjob.  Not sure if the sculpts are worth the $25 price tag each though...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: zifnab0 on August 13, 2012, 09:10:40 PM
Red Box minis also have a kickstarter... I hope nobody else has posted them yet.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1103158358/red-box-games-helsvakt-horde (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1103158358/red-box-games-helsvakt-horde)

Right now only really interesting for Chaos and Bretonnians but for those two .....fantastic minis.
Just a reminder that the kickstarter is on its last couple of days.  They've added some pretty fantastic undead models.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 13, 2012, 09:11:05 PM
The pictures look interesting, it would be nice to see them with a good paintjob.  Not sure if the sculpts are worth the $25 price tag each though...


Yeah, the price tag kills it for me. A shame, as I'd like to paint up a set and see how they mix with the old Marauder sculpts. They don't look quite as hot, but I'd be willing to bet they look decent with some paint.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on August 17, 2012, 08:18:33 AM
Spartan Games is bringing out its own 28 mm skirmish game


Fantastic minis for 40k and maybe with some conversion works also Empire

The Japanese Tank could make a fantastic steam tank.

http://www.spartangames.co.uk/games/dystopian-legions/empire-of-the-blazing-sun (http://www.spartangames.co.uk/games/dystopian-legions/empire-of-the-blazing-sun)

(http://www.spartangames.co.uk/wp/wp/wp-content/spartanimg/bs-gallery-ke-ho.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on August 19, 2012, 05:50:00 PM
The pictures look interesting, it would be nice to see them with a good paintjob.  Not sure if the sculpts are worth the $25 price tag each though...

Ooh, those look a step up from their usual sculpting quality. I'd like to see them with some paint and next to the Marauder ones too. If they are good, then I guess I can scrap landsknecht ogres from the to do list for my range.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on August 21, 2012, 08:16:58 AM
 :ph34r:

Reaper Bones hit the million on kickstarter

So much fantastic goodness

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1513061270/reaper-miniatures-bones-an-evolution-of-gaming-min (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1513061270/reaper-miniatures-bones-an-evolution-of-gaming-min)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on August 21, 2012, 09:55:45 PM
The pictures look interesting, it would be nice to see them with a good paintjob.  Not sure if the sculpts are worth the $25 price tag each though...

Ooh, those look a step up from their usual sculpting quality. I'd like to see them with some paint and next to the Marauder ones too. If they are good, then I guess I can scrap landsknecht ogres from the to do list for my range.

I would be tempted to buy one and give it a try, I just dislike their policy of always shipping via signed-for mail, even for a small order as it makes the high prices seem even worse.

I think they would be much better if they did their bellybuttons differently.  They did the same on lots of their halflings - just a big gaping hole.  I don't know why, it just looks silly.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: patsy02 on August 22, 2012, 01:06:33 PM
25 bucks per model isn't even close to worth it for those guys.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Blue in vt on August 22, 2012, 01:28:11 PM
The pictures look interesting, it would be nice to see them with a good paintjob.  Not sure if the sculpts are worth the $25 price tag each though...

Ooh, those look a step up from their usual sculpting quality. I'd like to see them with some paint and next to the Marauder ones too. If they are good, then I guess I can scrap landsknecht ogres from the to do list for my range.

I would be tempted to buy one and give it a try, I just dislike their policy of always shipping via signed-for mail, even for a small order as it makes the high prices seem even worse.

I think they would be much better if they did their bellybuttons differently.  They did the same on lots of their halflings - just a big gaping hole.  I don't know why, it just looks silly.

I agree with all of this...$25 is WAY too much....and those belly buttons do look weird...never noticed that before.

Cheers,

Blue
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on August 23, 2012, 08:56:32 AM
Well, that's an easy fix with a bit of greenstuff if you like. I will probably order these as they do look nice enough (though I got tempted into ordering their halflings on two occasions and ended up trading them away in both instances).
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on August 24, 2012, 11:01:18 PM
Lead Adventures is at it again! Their wonderful crossbowmen is released, just ordered the whole bunch. A fine addition to my swelling Marienburger army (500+ infantry now).
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on August 30, 2012, 07:58:49 PM

(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/553903_492315720797335_2027407671_n.jpg)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on August 31, 2012, 10:37:38 AM
Mantic models used to make a 40K nurgle chaos demon army and a 40k Dark Eldar army


Fantastic

http://www.gowarhead.com/p/hammering-warpath.html (http://www.gowarhead.com/p/hammering-warpath.html)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on September 04, 2012, 07:26:07 PM
More pics of the new Fireforge Foot Sergeants

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.481357498550246.114214.271339052885426&type=1

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on September 06, 2012, 07:26:43 PM
Finally some plastic Bretonnians to match the old metal ones. :happy:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on September 07, 2012, 05:39:04 PM
(http://www.thebattleforge.co.uk/ekmps/shops/thebattleforge/images/imperial-ogre-with-club-x4-pack-355-p.jpg)

I ordered these. They are a big improvement sculptingwise from the earlier halfling and dwarf models and while still not a patch on the (perfect) Marauder ones, I like them.

If you want to mix them though (as was my initial intention), you should know that they are not the same size as the Marauder ones. They are about a half head taller (which of course translates to more bulk as well) and they would not sit well side by side. Restricted to their own units or as unitfillers for non-ogre units, they are good though.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on September 16, 2012, 02:06:55 AM
Thanks for the review, WK!  Would you say they are worth the price tag though?

In other news, in case you  missed it, Foundry has re-released their old range of vikings and norse done by the Perry bros, which also used to be sold as citadel  norse.  The also released the rest of their old egyptian range, and they are visible on the website now.

(http://gallery.mailchimp.com/c387bacdcec2214a5ed65e7d9/images/vikings.JPG)

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Classic Ex-Citadel Vikings, Saxons and Normans Return

Sculpted by Alan and Michael Perry back in the late eighties (probably between 1986-7) these were first released under the Citadel F (Fighter) series. They would later become the basis of the Norse range, where perhaps they have become better known.
Although they are slightly smaller than our other Vikings, they are splendid in their own right.


Egyptians restored to full Strength

We’re also happy to announce that we have finished casting our complete range of Ancient Egyptians, adding 28 packs to what had been previously available. Another range that was sculpted by Alan and Michael Perry, it is not only marvellous but also the most extensive of its kind.
 
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 16, 2012, 08:06:09 PM
Love those Norse figures. Used to have a bunch. If I can get them on sale, I'd be tempted to put together a unit as mecwnaries for WFB.

Got an email that said they're also re-releasing the samurai, which are also excellent figures.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on September 16, 2012, 11:48:01 PM
Got that email too, but a picture is also nice  :icon_mrgreen:

(http://gallery.mailchimp.com/c387bacdcec2214a5ed65e7d9/images/Samurai.jpg)

With the new price adjustment, the prices aren't that unreasonable.  It's 18.58 for a pack, regardless of whether they were 6 or 8 to a pack.  The samurai appear to be 6 per pack (about $3 apiece) and the old vikings are 8 to a pack (about $2.30 apiece).

For the quality and the fact that they are metal I would say that's acceptable, compared to many of the other manufacturers.  Though a sale would be even nicer  :happy:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on September 17, 2012, 08:41:57 AM
Dystopian legions has the starter boxes up....not sure yet if I like it or not. Some minis are amazing like the British drummer boy.

http://ttfix.blogspot.co.uk/2012/09/spartan-games-dystopian-legions.html (http://ttfix.blogspot.co.uk/2012/09/spartan-games-dystopian-legions.html)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on September 17, 2012, 11:32:39 AM
Thanks for the review, WK!  Would you say they are worth the price tag though?

That's pretty subjective of course as what one finds worth the price, others would not. I would say that if you buy all 4 together (which is cheaper than the individual price) they are about worth it. Just. But the real test will be how they take paint of course, so final judgment will have to be reserved until I have time to try one out.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: oak_prince on September 17, 2012, 06:40:55 PM
I ordered a box of the Plastic Soldier Company 28mm Russians thinking they'd be a good counterpart to my Wargames Factory Germans. They look awful. PSC's 1/100 and 1/72 offerings are great, though.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on September 19, 2012, 01:41:55 PM
54mm orcs from Russian company:

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-geRGXAts-EA/UFnG2WDILCI/AAAAAAAABWk/IXD5V_4hs5I/s1600/IMG_6749.JPG)

Posing next to 25/28mm Perry WOTR figures:

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-QQ-ay0OOp3Y/UFnHKO2EMjI/AAAAAAAABW4/mlnPhlTzxsI/s1600/IMG_6754.JPG)

Looks like they can pass as ogres, but I have no idea why they are all wearing chastity belts...

http://corblogme.blogspot.sg/2012/09/toy-overload.html (http://corblogme.blogspot.sg/2012/09/toy-overload.html)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on September 19, 2012, 03:43:16 PM
I have no idea why they are all wearing chastity belts...

Sexual misconduct is a serious issue in all modern societies.

I was super excited to see that awesome cannon for a moment; I thought "Hey, cool cannon!" And then I realized it was a GW thing  :icon_redface: Still, that means I can get it. I'd never really looked at it before. Might find a place in my next army.

EDIT : It's NOT a GW thing! Well, I was right the first time. Where'd'ya get it? I wants me one.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on September 19, 2012, 03:48:04 PM
Oh no, the cannon came with the orcs - it's a Russian (Tehnolog?) thing.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: zifnab0 on September 19, 2012, 06:13:13 PM
EDIT : It's NOT a GW thing! Well, I was right the first time. Where'd'ya get it? I wants me one.
Try here (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Techno-demonic-cannon-fit-for-28mm-fantasy-wargaming-/251123594433?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a7821f4c1)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on September 19, 2012, 06:39:26 PM
Thanks! I feel about fifteen of those may be needed . . . .
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on September 20, 2012, 12:33:15 AM
I didn't get from that seller due to the negative feedbacks.

I got mine here: http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_nkw=cannon&_sacat=0&_odkw=&item=221124770333&pt=Toy_Soldiers&_osacat=0&hash=item337c103a1d&_ssn=strong-seller (http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_nkw=cannon&_sacat=0&_odkw=&item=221124770333&pt=Toy_Soldiers&_osacat=0&hash=item337c103a1d&_ssn=strong-seller)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on September 20, 2012, 12:51:30 AM
Seems that first seller is making a minor career out of selling counterfeit GW items.

Shocking! Criminality and counterfeiting on eBay! Who would have thought it?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 20, 2012, 01:06:33 AM
Hey hey... What I found interesting from that link was...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CASTLE-CRAFT-Middle-Ages-Model-Castle-16-soldiers-28mm-/221118698614?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item337bb39476

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CASTLE-CRAFT-Crusader-castle-Model-Castle-16-soldiers-28mm-/221127193553?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item337c3533d1

I think this has been mentioned around here before. Haven't seen them for sale before, though.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Delthos on September 20, 2012, 02:11:02 AM
Yeah, definitely been mentioned before, I think you need quite a few of the kits in order to make a decent sized castle though.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on September 20, 2012, 02:59:47 AM
Found a review from a guy who bought some on warseer:
http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?332189-Anyone-seen-have-this-castle-set

Some nice pics of the sprues, looks a tad small though.  Might make a nice border fort perhaps?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on September 20, 2012, 04:08:25 AM
Do NOT buy Castlecraft castles.

Those things are unnecessarily bitsy and take ages to put together. Time that can be better spent painting.

You have been warned.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on September 20, 2012, 04:37:28 PM
I have some of those sets and took some quick pics a while back.

28mm figure next to the door entrance, as seen, it's a bit small, especially when your figures will be based
(http://wk.frothersunite.com/misc/pics/cc3.jpg)

Some sprue pics to give an idea. Lots of small pieces. Textured on both sides:

(http://wk.frothersunite.com/misc/pics/cc4.jpg)

(http://wk.frothersunite.com/misc/pics/cc5.jpg)

(http://wk.frothersunite.com/misc/pics/cc6.jpg)

(http://wk.frothersunite.com/misc/pics/cc7.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Kirgan on September 21, 2012, 07:38:27 AM
Is that Castlecraft Castle?  :unsure:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: patsy02 on September 21, 2012, 12:15:13 PM
What is this, a castle for ants?

Could be bought to make ruins though. One sixth of the assembly, rest of it cheap putty and debris piled on.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on September 21, 2012, 03:17:57 PM
I think the doors could work; there are many places where doorways wouldn't be as high (comparatively speaking) as we have them in modern homes. Building up is easier today than it was in the mediaeval period; this castle could represent an older building.

Or a Dwarf hold :)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on September 21, 2012, 04:51:49 PM
Yes, those are from the Castlecraft sets. Doors are small, but when I look at some real life castles around here, I find you always have to stoop to enter them.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: patsy02 on September 21, 2012, 07:38:36 PM
I think the doors could work; there are many places where doorways wouldn't be as high (comparatively speaking) as we have them in modern homes. Building up is easier today than it was in the mediaeval period; this castle could represent an older building.

Or a Dwarf hold :)
No. A hobbit hold!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on September 22, 2012, 12:33:32 AM
You guys see those tiny clips?

Every single one of the joints have to be held together using two or more of those...

I think I'll rubble mine rather than to build it up.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on September 22, 2012, 12:38:22 AM
I think I'll get one and build it into the side of a mountain as a dwarf outpost.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on September 22, 2012, 09:50:19 PM
You guys see those tiny clips?

Every single one of the joints have to be held together using two or more of those...

Or glue :)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on September 23, 2012, 01:20:27 PM
Unfortunately the clips form part of the walls, so if you try to glue the sections together without the clips, you get gaps.

Not to mention that some of the clips are T-joints which allow you to put walls together in right angles - without them it will be as much effort to try to get the walls to fit properly.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on September 25, 2012, 01:21:17 PM
LAM are starting to make their own metal cannons - metal fetishists rejoice. Price is not bad either.

http://www.lead-adventure.com/product_info.php?cPath=22&products_id=178&osCsid=750c1010c8cc57125ad91d02a2fb6cf9 (http://www.lead-adventure.com/product_info.php?cPath=22&products_id=178&osCsid=750c1010c8cc57125ad91d02a2fb6cf9)

(http://www.lead-adventure.com/images/bru-42.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Marek on September 25, 2012, 06:20:55 PM
Can't believe there isn't more love for LAF/Ratnik's Brugelburg range on this site. Maybe its an age thing, but I think their range is more 'Empire' than any of GW's current range.

(http://www.lead-adventure.com/images/bru-22.jpg)
(http://www.lead-adventure.com/images/bru-46.jpg)

Lovely!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on September 26, 2012, 01:59:55 AM
Sure do love Ratnik's work!  I have already purchased the entire Bruegelburg range.  Nothing painted yet though, just have been able to appreciate the fine details up close  :biggriin:

And yes, the price is comparable to GW, and quite frankly, the detail puts GW to shame in most cases.  For the whole deal with 4 cannons and 10 crew, you pay 94euro (120usd) if you are in Europe, or roughly 100 USD if you are outside of Euro as they do not charge you tax if your order is international.  That's pretty much the same price as buying 4 cannon kits, except they are metal with nicer details.  No mortars are included, but nobody uses them anyways nowadays...  :engel:

Have you seen their upcoming swordsmen?

http://www.lead-adventure.de/index.php?topic=45963.0
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on September 26, 2012, 06:10:24 PM
They are absolutely stunning. I have the entire range (except for one figure - the knight with a silly spiked hat). They are superior to GW in every way imaginable, and they mix very well with the Foundry mercenary orcs too.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on September 29, 2012, 05:31:58 PM
Maybe it´s rude to have two straight posts, but I need to put this in writing somewhere: Foundry are serious about their rejuvenation. I just had a mail conversation with Marcus Ansell, explaining that I wish to have more puff n´slash greenskins for my army, and it ended with him adding half a dozen packs of Mercenary Ogres (well, they are orcs really) to their site that had been withdrawn ages ago for reasons unknown. More will come, and I´ll buy them. My Marienburger army just grows and grows (600+ infantry now).

Now that´s customer relations, GW.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on September 30, 2012, 12:39:12 PM
Maybe it´s rude to have two straight posts, but I need to put this in writing somewhere: Foundry are serious about their rejuvenation. I just had a mail conversation with Marcus Ansell, explaining that I wish to have more puff n´slash greenskins for my army, and it ended with him adding half a dozen packs of Mercenary Ogres (well, they are orcs really) to their site that had been withdrawn ages ago for reasons unknown. More will come, and I´ll buy them. My Marienburger army just grows and grows (600+ infantry now).

Now that´s customer relations, GW.

HOLY CRAP! That's awesome!  I love those figures, and now that my birthday is coming up, I think that an order is in line!  Horray for foundry!  :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on September 30, 2012, 02:48:12 PM
Akbar

You have discovered that there is a small group here who are collectors of these Kev Adams sculpts and so you are to be commended for your actions.

I have just spent some time updating my lists as I/we had pictures of various quality of some of these models, but no names to go with them.

Indeed I have found the first anomaly as what Foundry call "Razogret Dwarfstomper" I have seen called "Fancy Orrathock"

(http://www.voidgamers.com/images/data/photo/geboom/orc_goblins/orcsgoblins/GEBOOM-image02.jpg)

http://www.shiftinglands.com/orc02.htm

I also have some pictures of figures still not listed - there is quite often dispute over what is a Mercenary Ogre and a Mercenary Orc in these figures and the sizes of models do vary.

http://kevadamschallenge.blogspot.co.uk/2010/08/foundry-fantasy-ogres.html

http://kevadamschallenge.blogspot.co.uk/2010/08/mercenary-ogres.html

I am in the UK, and have some spares if you have any swaps.
Timbor is in Canada, and may want to check lists with you too.
You will also see evidence of White Knight on the site I linked to, as well, as he has a few too. 
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on September 30, 2012, 06:22:41 PM
They probably lost the old name, and just made up a new one.  :blush:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on October 01, 2012, 03:15:16 AM
To add to the previous conversation about lead adventure miniatures - some photos of their recent 'handgunner' sculpts:

(http://s001.radikal.ru/i196/1209/b6/e580426578e4.jpg)

http://www.lead-adventure.de/index.php?topic=46470.0

Hmm, I wonder how they will look compared to our beloved pajama-donning hillbilly statetroops?  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on October 01, 2012, 11:12:04 AM
These look like they have potential:

(http://www.warlordgames.com/store/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/800x634/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/w/g/wgp-tyw-27-regt-wallenstein-lifeguard-regiment.jpg)

http://www.warlordgames.com/26455/new-wallensteins-lifeguard/ (http://www.warlordgames.com/26455/new-wallensteins-lifeguard/)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on October 01, 2012, 10:00:37 PM
Maybe it´s rude to have two straight posts, but I need to put this in writing somewhere: Foundry are serious about their rejuvenation. I just had a mail conversation with Marcus Ansell, explaining that I wish to have more puff n´slash greenskins for my army, and it ended with him adding half a dozen packs of Mercenary Ogres (well, they are orcs really) to their site that had been withdrawn ages ago for reasons unknown. More will come, and I´ll buy them. My Marienburger army just grows and grows (600+ infantry now).

Now that´s customer relations, GW.

Akbar, after reading your post, I went ahead and sent marcus an email thanking him for the changes made at foundry, and also inquired about any other mercenary orcs or ogres.  I got an email back, and they have put up SEVEN packs of mercenary orcs (I think that is all the remaining unreleased ones).  All told that is 20 new (to us at least) poses of puffy slashy orcs!  Huzzah!   :::cheers:::

I would say that if you are a fan of foundry's stuff, now would be a good time to place an order if you are pleased with what they are doing.  It's one thing to commend their progress, but the progress is useless if they don't see financial returns from it.  I plan on placing an order soon for mainly that reason - to put  my money where my mouth is.

Also, in the same email I asked about their discontinued packs in a few ranges:

Arthurian 4 packs
Franks/Saxons 1 pack
German 14 packs
Picts 2 packs

His response:

Quote
Some of the Arthurian and German packs have already been put back on the website. Here are the lists of the unreleased  pack names from the ranges you were interested in:
 
        LR032    Dark Age Arthurian Or Frankish Or Gothic Cavalry Command                                     
        LR033    Dark Age Arthurian Or Frankish Or Gothic Cavalry
 
 
        FS009    Frank And Saxon Casualties
 
 
        AG002   Suebi Warriors                                         
        AG005   Suebi Cavalry                                           
        AG006   Suebi Cavalry                                                   
        AG010   Chatti Cavalry                                           
        AG013   Chatti Veterans                                                       
        AG017A        Savage German Warriors                                                     
        AG018A        Savage German Warriors                                     
        AG019   Germanic Cavalry                                           
        AG021   Germanic Cavalry                                           
        AG022   Suebi Cavalry                                                   
 
        PICT007        Pict Chariot                                       
        PICT008        Pict Command Characters
 
Let me know if you’d like to order any of these and I’ll get them back on the website for you.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on October 01, 2012, 10:10:19 PM
Diverting the discussion (briefly) from Foundry...

http://www.wargamesfactory.com/webstore/dark-futures/zombie-vixens

Undead cuties!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on October 01, 2012, 10:23:16 PM
Those look pretty cool.  I don't do Post-Apoc stuff, but it looks like their quality is starting to improve. 
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on October 01, 2012, 10:34:33 PM

Akbar, after reading your post, I went ahead and sent marcus an email thanking him for the changes made at foundry, and also inquired about any other mercenary orcs or ogres.  I got an email back, and they have put up SEVEN packs of mercenary orcs (I think that is all the remaining unreleased ones).  All told that is 20 new (to us at least) poses of puffy slashy orcs!  Huzzah!   :::cheers:::

I would say that if you are a fan of foundry's stuff, now would be a good time to place an order if you are pleased with what they are doing.  It's one thing to commend their progress, but the progress is useless if they don't see financial returns from it.  I plan on placing an order soon for mainly that reason - to put  my money where my mouth is.
[/quote]

Oh, I will tomorrow. Amazing what simple emails can do sometimes.  :happy:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 01, 2012, 10:48:50 PM
Can't believe there isn't more love for LAF/Ratnik's Brugelburg range on this site.

To be honest, if I wasn't perpetually broke lately I would buy & paint a ton of:

Brugelburg
White Knight Dwarfs
Foundry Ogres/Great Orcs

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on October 02, 2012, 01:10:37 AM
Those look pretty cool.  I don't do Post-Apoc stuff, but it looks like their quality is starting to improve.

I am a big fan of Wargames Factory - they are cheap and cheerful models. They certainly aren't up to the standard of GW, but I do like them. And the price is VERY good.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on October 02, 2012, 09:02:44 PM

OK - I give in.

 I have pinged Foundry with three photos of Merc Ogres I know about that they haven't shown yet.

I am surprised White Knight hasn't chipped in - I mean him and Kev Adams are in business together ..............   :closed-eyes:

I might have some spares for trade too.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on October 03, 2012, 06:03:13 PM
Update after my email:
(I sent three pics, I had, of ones not listed)

Quote
Hi Mark,

We seem to have made some of those orcs available despite not having the moulds here (unless they are hiding). I’ve almost certainly seen the two painted orcs whilst searching for the others.
My present inclination is to not touch anything until we can assess what has been done in error.
The last chap I do not know though. Those I know will definitely be on their way back!

Cheers,

Alex. (Marcus is at college)

2 painted were:
Gnothagam the Proud or Yamizorgl Dragonbreath
and
Drogathog the Vigilant and Watchtower

The last one was a Merc orc with a halberd / polearm in his left hand - a picture from White Knight

So some of those shown may not have moulds - I hope you haven't ordered stuff only to be disappointed guys.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on October 03, 2012, 06:13:15 PM
Isn´t Drogathog this one? He´s been up for a long time, but in the orclings section.

http://wargamesfoundry.com/fantasy_ranges/single_packs/orclings/any/orcling_watchtower_orcb003/?sector_id=

About Orcs displayed without having moulds....well, we´ll see. I ordered all the new ogres and all orcs except ORCP089. Hope they won´t let me down.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on October 03, 2012, 06:28:27 PM

Oh that's a good spot - (genuine thanks)

Never thought to look in that section for a Mercenary Ogre  (Sarcasm at Foundry placement)

 :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on October 03, 2012, 08:38:54 PM
I am surprised White Knight hasn't chipped in - I mean him and Kev Adams are in business together ..............   :closed-eyes:

I've sent you all I had ages ago.  :engel:

And Kev doesn't have pictures or even copies of those models.

Though they do complement the goblin landsknecht range I'm doing with him perfectly.  :closed-eyes:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on October 03, 2012, 11:44:05 PM

Though they do complement the goblin landsknecht range I'm doing with him perfectly.  :closed-eyes:

True, but those orcs could use a nice command section, don't you think?  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on October 04, 2012, 10:14:31 AM
I'll consider it. Though there are already a couple command figures in the packs and you could press a couple of the war orcs command figures into service as well (which is what I did, though I converted them to have more puff).
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on October 04, 2012, 01:26:09 PM
If you look at the separation Foundry have made between what is an ogre and what is an orc I find some of them questionable.

Some of the ogres are on the small side, and some of the supposed orcs are quite large.

Fustabrook for example is an orc apparently, but would make a good unit champion.

The Drogathog the Vigilant is a good standard bearer option, and there are musicians as well.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on October 04, 2012, 03:14:03 PM
In the end, you can just make your own separation based on what looks right. Kev Adams himself said initially they were all just orcs. It just turned out that some ended up bigger than others and the distinction was operated post fact.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on October 04, 2012, 07:25:21 PM
Fustabrook sounds like a relative of phillyt
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on October 05, 2012, 07:11:42 PM
Ratnik strikes again with greatswords!

(http://i065.radikal.ru/1209/59/f88d8208811b.jpg)

http://www.lead-adventure.de/index.php?topic=46677.0

So, they have sculpted and released cannons and crews, halberdiers and xbows, and they have WIP sculpts of handgunners, greatswords, swordsmen, and also sniper teams.  Pretty much just need some cavalry and they got most of the empire covered in the Bruegelburg range!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on October 05, 2012, 08:15:02 PM
Well, they have a pigrider in the pipeline......

The best thing about them is how well they mix with the foundry orcs, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on October 05, 2012, 08:53:12 PM
I am very tempted by the landsknecht cannons of Ratnik. Nothing short of ace.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on October 08, 2012, 11:18:08 AM
http://www.warlordgames.com/27299/new-polish-winged-hussars/ (http://www.warlordgames.com/27299/new-polish-winged-hussars/)

(http://www.warlordgames.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/WGB-17-Winged-Hussars-b-600x502.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on October 08, 2012, 01:02:51 PM
Ewww Polish people. Nice models though. Maybe I'll do kislev.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on October 08, 2012, 01:26:10 PM
Ewww Polish people.

What is that supposed to mean?  :Ohmy:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on October 08, 2012, 02:45:11 PM
I was just going to post those!  Kislevites rejoice!

I think the models look great.  I hope to get a unit, but will wait to order them from maelstrom or something like that at a discount.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on October 08, 2012, 06:57:18 PM
Today is, I think, national pierogi day.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on October 09, 2012, 01:30:01 AM
Ewww Polish people.

What is that supposed to mean?  :Ohmy:
Nothing.....  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on October 11, 2012, 01:53:06 AM
Does anyone have any experience with / comments on Warlord Game's models? I am specifically asking about the metal figures, the ones from the Immortal Miniatures line they bought in, and also the Imperial Roman Civilians. The Immortal ones look very nice, but the Imperial Roman Civilians don't look quite as nice - but that might be a poor paint job.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on October 11, 2012, 10:40:59 AM
Wolsung Assistant.....they made a minitature based on Rufus!

(http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/MAS_Wolsung-Lab-Assistant.jpg)

Well one would need to model shorts on it though....
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on October 15, 2012, 11:58:55 AM
(http://www.coolminiornot.com/shop/media/catalog/product/f/u/full-frt.jpg)

If someone has 300 € lying around.....what a great dragon.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on October 17, 2012, 06:59:16 AM
TAG (The Assault Group) has a whole slew of greens for the Italian Wars/early Renaissance period on the workbench. In Warhammer terms: Tileans!

(http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/cms/uploads/ItaConSwo1.jpg)
(http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/cms/uploads/ItaConSwo4.jpg)(http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/cms/uploads/ItaConSwo3.jpg)
(http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/cms/uploads/ItaMtdCro1.jpg)(http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/cms/uploads/ItaMtdCro8.jpg)
(http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/cms/uploads/ItaMtdCro2.jpg)(http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/cms/uploads/ItaMtdCro10.jpg)
(http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/cms/uploads/AlbStrSid1.jpg)
(http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/cms/uploads/AlbStrSid6.jpg)(http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/cms/uploads/AlbStrSid5.jpg)
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Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on October 17, 2012, 07:05:26 AM
Mounted Crossbows are ace the rest is not my cup of tea.....the horses look half asleep.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on October 17, 2012, 08:47:44 AM
I like 'em all. Once I get this next batch out of the way, I reckon they might be up for sale. I think I am accidentally making a whole new army (done this several times as RP or merc' company collections suddenly hit the point at which I might as well go the whole way and make them into an army.)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: shavixmir on October 20, 2012, 08:09:11 AM
A friend pointed these out to me. Has the site been linked to yet?

http://www.fireforge-games.com/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.browse&category_id=12&Itemid=95

Certainly good news for any cavalry based army. My Brets might have to get dusted off
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on October 20, 2012, 01:18:29 PM
A friend pointed these out to me. Has the site been linked to yet?

http://www.fireforge-games.com/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.browse&category_id=12&Itemid=95

Certainly good news for any cavalry based army. My Brets might have to get dusted off

Wow that's amazing .....................


Not the figures - we discussed them 20 pages back ..............


But that Shav has a friend ...............................


 :biggriin:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: shavixmir on October 20, 2012, 03:18:15 PM
A friend pointed these out to me. Has the site been linked to yet?

http://www.fireforge-games.com/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.browse&category_id=12&Itemid=95

Certainly good news for any cavalry based army. My Brets might have to get dusted off

Wow that's amazing .....................


Not the figures - we discussed them 20 pages back ..............


But that Shav has a friend ...............................


 :biggriin:
Your wit is surpassed only by your age, surely, sir.

Has anyone bought them yet? Are they too small?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on October 20, 2012, 03:44:37 PM
I have all three sets and intend to buy the infantry set due next month.
They are similar to Perry stuff both in scale and style - real life rather than heroic, not as chunkys as GW - they wouldn't mix with Bret knights in a unit, but fine independently.

There were several painted units at Salute back in April - and they looked stunning.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: shavixmir on October 20, 2012, 05:10:45 PM
They do look really good.
And using GW knights, for example, as Grail knights, you can use the templar knights as KOTR and the Teutonic knights as... well... something else (too ill to think at the moment. To be quite truthful, I sneezed this morning and my left ear has went deaf).

I have Perry miniatures (I think) from the war of the roses. They're quite good too.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on October 21, 2012, 07:01:08 AM
I use Perry WOTR as an Empire army, but had these been available when I started the project, I would be uing them for a Bretonnian army instead.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on October 21, 2012, 01:08:01 PM
I like the Teutonic figures being produced by Fireforge.  They do seem to have more of a Bretonnian feel though.

From the picture on Fireforge's site, the infantry have 6 options for bodies, with 8 bodies per sprue, yet two of the bodies are duplicates.  Kind of like they were running up against some internal deadline, and didn't bother to make all 8 of them different.  With Perry's WotRs and Euro Mercs, granted they're of a different time period, but they've provided 12 different bodies on a sprue, and that doesn't include the one's on the command sprue.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on October 29, 2012, 06:16:30 PM
A wild unsubstantiated rumor appears!

Just read on the Wargames Factory forums that Dwarfs with blackpowder weapons are "coming next week". Post is dated 17th Sept, so they should be here now, but release schedules can be iffy.

In any case; wild rumor is wild. WGF stuff is generally speaking about $20 for 30 figures, and they are multipart and fun.

I dislike Dwarfs myself, BUT if they are interesting and characterful they could be good for certain armies.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on October 29, 2012, 09:10:20 PM
Is there a link to where the dwarf statement is?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on October 29, 2012, 11:20:52 PM
http://wargamesfactory.lefora.com/2010/09/17/tech-level/
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on October 30, 2012, 01:04:35 AM
I'm afraid that is from 2 years ago...
Look at the date at the bottom of the announcement post
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on October 30, 2012, 01:55:12 AM
Yep, only the most recent post of 10/29/2012 is after all the other posts done in 2010.

They have a thread somewhere that mentions waiting until the Liberty and Union League post gets beyond the 2% it currently has.  Which I suspect isn't anytime soon.  If the Liberty and Union League even exists anymore.  Its still on the website, but I ahve no idea if it has any meaning at this point.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on October 30, 2012, 11:29:50 AM
Oooops! My bad, guys :(

But little WGF Dwarfs would be fun. They should totally do them.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on October 30, 2012, 11:35:40 AM
Probably yes.  Previous ownership wanted to make them and believe they had figures in design, but there's been a change and the current ownership doesn't seem to be interested at the moment.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on October 30, 2012, 11:56:01 AM
Hippies.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on November 05, 2012, 05:48:04 PM
Update on my dealings with foundry (see above post 1465 and onwards):

I ordered all the re-released renaissance orcs/ogres. There was a minor cockup with my order; they could not find the moulds for some of the orcs posted on the website, 4 out of 16 I think. I was a bit disappointed of course, but my god was I compensated....in the end I received models for about 220 euros for free - all the orcs they could find moulds for and some other stuff. Communication was very good through the entire process, and I honestly think they went bit TOO far. They do have to make money after all.

In the future, I will order more stuff. I feel I have been treated very well by them.

Sadly, the re-released ones were withdrawn from the shop. This is because they did not want to risk any further incidents; they will be put back on. Below is part of an email from Marcus Ansell:

I took the orcs off the website again because some of  the ones that had been discontinued are either scattered around the factory randomly or the models themselves are on the wrong moulds. I’ll have to wait until I have enough time to spend a day at the factory sorting them out.
On the bright side, we found lots of masters of orcs that have never been released before. It’ll be a while before they are out but they will appear at some point. The same with the dwarves, there are at least twenty models made by Kevin Adams and Mike Owen which we will be able to release in the distant future.

So, all in all, I´m very satisfied. Foundry handled this well, the orcs will reappear (AND more dwarfs!) and my army just grows and grows - their elisabethean spanish swordsmen goes well with the orcs...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on November 05, 2012, 05:59:29 PM
Wargames Factory (on whom I have a small mancrush) have announced the War of Spanish Succession artillery.

http://wargamesfactory.lefora.com/2012/11/03/bring-up-the-guns/

Box art (no pics of models yet);

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Likely to be a $20 price point. Probably smaller guns than the Great Cannon, but may be useful.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on November 05, 2012, 06:40:18 PM
Their publicist has seemed to confirm the rumors in that same thread.

Not sure how well these will really work for Empire, but perhaps they'll make a good addition to some WSS figures that I'm slowly working on.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: cjp on November 05, 2012, 11:23:54 PM
Some new heroes / mordheim charachters from Raging Heroes, that I imagine will be pretty popular with some folks. ;)

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Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: oak_prince on November 05, 2012, 11:26:37 PM
I got a lot ahold of a bunch of Darklands/Banelords figures. I give them a 8/10. The detail is amazing but the manufacturer made some questionable design/assembly choices. For instance, the making the banners and the banner poles single pieces. I also wouldn't recommend them to anyone who isn't comfortable heating/bending resin.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on November 06, 2012, 12:04:42 PM
@cjp : There was a whole thread discussing those little pieces of fanservice here http://warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=44118.0
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 06, 2012, 09:51:29 PM
@cjp : There was a whole thread discussing those little pieces of fapservice here http://warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=44118.0


...fixed that...  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: cjp on November 12, 2012, 07:49:29 PM
Ah ha! Sorry, missed the other thread. Thanks :)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on November 12, 2012, 07:57:49 PM
They are taking pre-orders for them now - I am considering ordering some in December. They will fit very nicely in my new army.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on November 14, 2012, 03:28:51 PM