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Title: New models you expect to see for empire 8th.
Post by: Sir Paradus Hithili on December 26, 2009, 03:57:29 AM
Greetings all.
I though I would start a thread for us to discuss what models we might expect to see come our next army book.

I myself believe that we will see the return of a few older units like the war wagon, reiksguard and mabye a halfling unit, because if rumours are true that our new knights will come next year then we will be a bit scarse for new kits and models with our current units.

There are some units that may get redone again:
-Milita (I hope not though!)
-State Troops again (yes please!)
-Cannon and Mortar crew.

Other then that we have a large opening for new unit models and the like.

Here's what I expect to see in the first 8th empire wave.
-Plastic Milita
-Plastic War wagon/War Altar
-Plastic Halflings (They were included in the fairly new empire uniform book so I think they have a good chance of showing up)

-New Karl Franz
-New Luthor Huss
-New Character models
-Mabye a witch hunter model (here's hoping)

Mini's I hope to see somewhere along the track
-Plastic Reikguard (not Goldguard though!)
-New Bathasar Gelt Peg (Bathasar himself is fine)
-Plastic Pikemen!

Then of course we would likely have a second wave so who knows what we could receive in that?

What are your expectations on new mini's for our 8th ed book then?

cheers. :smile2:
Title: Re: New models you expect to see for empire 8th.
Post by: Dezzo on December 26, 2009, 08:38:01 AM
A new plastic sculpt of the War Altar is enough for me.
Title: Re: New models you expect to see for empire 8th.
Post by: Nicholas Ironfist on December 26, 2009, 12:41:12 PM
A decent mage would be nice too...maybe a cool female model or two?
Title: Re: New models you expect to see for empire 8th.
Post by: Wolfgang aus Wien on December 26, 2009, 02:53:03 PM
I'm guessing you are asking which models we would like to see.
If so, I  would like the Empire to become the large, multicultural realm it used to be and have Hlaflings, Dwarves and maybe even Ogres in its' ranks.
Title: Re: New models you expect to see for empire 8th.
Post by: peraturabo on December 27, 2009, 07:34:04 PM
I agree with you,Wolfgang aus Wien,Halflings,Dawarves and Ogres would do it!
But also a mercenary Giant would be cool *.*
Title: Re: New models you expect to see for empire 8th.
Post by: jcorey1 on December 27, 2009, 07:51:52 PM
I'm new to the forums, and I'm just picking up warhammer again after a few year hiatus, so I feel like a newbie all over again  :icon_cry: My question is, they are redoing the empire army models again for 2010?

Just asking...I wanna start piecing my army together again but I don't want to pour money into it yet if the new models are coming out soon. Thanks!
Title: Re: New models you expect to see for empire 8th.
Post by: der Hurenwiebel on January 01, 2010, 07:42:44 AM
Just so you aren't wasting time waiting on buying models or would feel somehow gauche for having old models.  I still use some of my really really old 2nd edition models from back in the early 90's late 80's.  Get models you feel would make a nice core for your army paint them up then add on later.

as for what is likely:  I figure knights, and militia and some new character models perhaps a pegasus cap but unlikely.   

What I would like is new state troops including a pike haft option, scouting handgunners, pistol wielding knights, light cav with lances, handweapons and archery options, an engineer kit, a warrior priest cav kit, and a militia kit allowing you to make anything from incipient swordsmen to pistol duellists, or farm peasants. 
Title: Re: New models you expect to see for empire 8th.
Post by: Warlord on January 20, 2010, 12:17:31 AM
We will get new plastic knights 5 in a box

We will get a new plastic War Altar / War Wagon

We will also get a few special characters done.
Probably Karl Franz, maybe also Volkmar.

There will also be a Witch Hunter character introduced.

Luthor Huss will remain as our only official mounted WP model.
Title: Re: New models you expect to see for empire 8th.
Post by: Nicholas Ironfist on January 20, 2010, 12:40:41 AM
We will get new plastic knights 5 in a box

We will get a new plastic War Altar / War Wagon

We will also get a few special characters done.
Probably Karl Franz, maybe also Volkmar.

There will also be a Witch Hunter character introduced.

Luthor Huss will remain as our only official mounted WP model.
A witch hunter would ROCK!!!.....so Mr Warlord are you guessing or do you have inside info  :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: New models you expect to see for empire 8th.
Post by: Warlord on January 20, 2010, 01:06:45 AM
Looking back, the way I wrote it does sound like insider info doesn't it.

No, I don't have info, other than speculation from previous editions / armies.

I did call Plastic Wizards and War Altar rules though.
Title: Re: New models you expect to see for empire 8th.
Post by: Northern Storm on January 23, 2010, 06:15:01 AM
Knights (both types) are in absolute desperate need of a plastic kit.

So is the Warrior Priest (w/ horse obviously).

The rest is pretty solid imo.

Title: Re: New models you expect to see for empire 8th.
Post by: warhammerlord_soth on January 23, 2010, 10:02:12 AM
The War altar will be abolished.
 
Instead we will get an Empire version of the plastic giant, probably steam powered.
 
 
Infantry will get a rule boost, where barefoot soldiers get +2 attacks.
 
That'll be it really....
Title: Re: New models you expect to see for empire 8th.
Post by: fauthsie on January 23, 2010, 02:47:01 PM
My guesses

Militia- Plastic Box of 10
Knights- Plastic Box of 5
War Wagon/War Alter Kit (Plastic)
Title: Re: New models you expect to see for empire 8th.
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on January 25, 2010, 08:59:34 AM
New state troopers with some spare sets of boots

new handgunners

new pistoliers

new General box
Title: Re: New models you expect to see for empire 8th.
Post by: stretch_135 on January 25, 2010, 09:17:24 PM
The War altar will be abolished.
 
Instead we will get an Empire version of the plastic giant, probably steam powered.

Isn't that called a Steam Tank?
Title: Re: New models you expect to see for empire 8th.
Post by: Max Stahlgart on April 23, 2010, 09:48:02 PM

Fixing the damned spears and halberdiers would be nice so they don't break after about one game would be nice:P
Title: Re: New models you expect to see for empire 8th.
Post by: Inarticulate on April 23, 2010, 10:29:25 PM
New state troopers with some spare sets of boots

new handgunners

new pistoliers

new General box

Give that man a lollypop.

I will literally go mental if they make new militia. I can imagine none of them having shoes.
Title: Re: New models you expect to see for empire 8th.
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on April 23, 2010, 10:59:18 PM
Mounted Wizards...
Title: Re: New models you expect to see for empire 8th.
Post by: DariusZero on April 24, 2010, 08:24:42 AM
I'm really curious if they would remake foot reiksguard, thou I'm not so sure about the need for them. But fluffwise they really should.
If they do, then I hope they will match in size with other foot troops.
And they should also make new knights of the inner circle, if they will remain in rules that is.
Title: Re: New models you expect to see for empire 8th.
Post by: Obi on April 24, 2010, 04:45:15 PM
The War altar will be abolished.
Screw that. I'm in the process of cutting up my plastic steam tank to convert one. They better keep it.

Then again, with hindsight, it'd have been better to wait anyways.

Also, knights. I hope no new pistoliers. I guess we might get a new cannon box though (it's old).
Title: Re: New models you expect to see for empire 8th.
Post by: Hauptmann Gustl on May 05, 2010, 06:24:49 AM
Please give us...

- some new plastic knights  :ph34r:
- a new version of the great cannon and mortar
- a character model on a big mean mount (imperial dragon, griffon)
- a new themed-based special unit (like the Teutogen Guard) - I would suggest an Altdorf elite regiment in heavy armour with halberds  :smile2:

And by the way... :| :| :|

GW hasn't been doing Kislev for about ten years - so get them back in the empire list again
- a box of five plastic winged lancers or empire demi-lancers would be fine
- plastic horse archers
- plastic Kislev state troopers (they should wear boots, cos it's cold in the north)
Title: Re: New models you expect to see for empire 8th.
Post by: Auberoun on May 05, 2010, 07:49:02 AM
Please give us...

- some new plastic knights  :ph34r:
- a new version of the great cannon and mortar
- a character model on a big mean mount (imperial dragon, griffon)
-

I am guessing that a new artillery set would be on the horizon along with a new plastic griffon/pegasus general set.  (Kind of like the HE dragon set. Where you can make 2 different types of characters with one box.) 
I predict the knights will be about the same but 5 to a box, for about 25.00USD
Also, I really hope they don't do a new militia unless they add a TON of new equipment and weapon bits on the sprue. (Like the bottle on the solider sprue, or axe on the Bret. Sprue.  A pitchfork comes to mind...)

Title: Re: New models you expect to see for empire 8th.
Post by: Count Stephano on May 08, 2010, 12:08:44 AM
Knights! that's all for now. Although I don't like the current state troops empire has a fairly strong range currently.
Title: Re: New models you expect to see for empire 8th.
Post by: Hendrid on June 20, 2010, 02:16:51 PM
Just about anything new would be good for me, lots more bits to mix and match.

I think the knights are a must since them and the militia are about the oldest still in production kits GW has going.
Title: Re: New models you expect to see for empire 8th.
Post by: Sir Vark Karnil on July 29, 2010, 11:45:45 AM
New state troopers in 20man box will be dreamie :dry:
Title: Re: New models you expect to see for empire 8th.
Post by: GambitGriffin on August 04, 2010, 05:41:01 PM
Probably a new militia-box, hopefully we get militia with great weapon and militia with pistols! New stateroopers and knights would also be good!
Title: Re: New models you expect to see for empire 8th.
Post by: Guildenstern on September 02, 2010, 11:00:50 PM
I expect more barefoot soldiers and ugly men in rugs instead of uniforms - like that bear mascot thing.
But I don't like that.
Barefoot Knights maybe?
Title: Re: New models you expect to see for empire 8th.
Post by: judoonplatoon1 on September 02, 2010, 11:21:34 PM
bits lots and lots of bits
and kilsev
though I always wanted a ottoman unit
Title: Re: New models you expect to see for empire 8th.
Post by: warhammerlord_soth on September 03, 2010, 10:32:20 AM
Madam Rosalita and the girls.  :icon_cry: :biggriin:
Title: Re: New models you expect to see for empire 8th.
Post by: Stomm on September 07, 2010, 08:22:03 PM
Definately new knights, that plastic barded horse is now I think the oldest plastic component that GW still produces that isn't a base of some kind. It dates from certainly the early 90's possibly even earlier.


A mounted wizard would be good, I'm surprised they didn't do a mounted-unmounted combo in the first instance. If they do produce a plastic mounted wizard though, I've be very surprised and very disapointed if the bits for it weren't tailored to make wizards from the lores that are missing from the existing foot one, for some reason I can only think of Life and Beasts, but I'm sure there's a third missing...

I can't see them redoing the mortar-cannon set any time soon, nor the militia box set. The only exception to that might be if they introduce a new unit type and can include that as an option in the plastic kit.

A plastic War Altar, maybe War Wagon or whatever combo kit is a probability, that's big enough to tie in with a new book though.



Above all else though, we had a load of new stuff come out pretty recently, so I would be very surprised if we got a load of new stuff any time soon, let alone a new book. Saying that though, O&G's just got a load of new stuff, and the rumour mill is indicating that they're due for a new book pretty soon...
Title: Re: New models you expect to see for empire 8th.
Post by: Guildenstern on September 16, 2010, 09:08:33 PM
Definately new knights, that plastic barded horse is now I think the oldest plastic component that GW still produces that isn't a base of some kind. It dates from certainly the early 90's possibly even earlier.

There were only little changes from battle master horses. So I'd say that the basic design is from the 80s
Title: Re: New models you expect to see for empire 8th.
Post by: Cedrikvonkreig on September 23, 2010, 05:24:23 AM
Remake the Griffon...

I don't like the cartoony look of the current one... the old version was a wonderful piece... but it needed to be bigger....

something that doesn't cause me to buy the Island of Blood set just because it has the Griffon on it...
Title: Re: New models you expect to see for empire 8th.
Post by: Johedl on September 23, 2010, 10:20:42 AM
I think/hope that we will get:

A new knight box with five knights and finaly new horses.
    The options for hammers or other form of great weapons in the box as well as updated White Wolf/other orders sprues, possibly mail order only.

A new plastic War Altar with the new horses.

A new Luthor Huss. Perhaps a plastic box with a Warrior Priest on fot and one mounted like the general box.

A mounted metall wizard.

A new Karl Franz on a dragon or in a griffon kit where one can make a "normal" general of him instead.

A plastic Pegasus rider that can be either a Wizard Lord or a Captain.

A new militia box with 16 troops.


Title: Re: New models you expect to see for empire 8th.
Post by: oak_prince on September 23, 2010, 05:52:37 PM
Mounted Wizards...

I'm sure the 4 people who use mounted wizards will convert their own or get ahold of the OOP ones from older editions.  :biggriin:
Title: Re: New models you expect to see for empire 8th.
Post by: Warlord on September 29, 2010, 09:21:48 AM
A new militia box with 16 troops.

Why is it important there are less in there?
Title: Re: New models you expect to see for empire 8th.
Post by: Johedl on September 29, 2010, 10:25:03 AM
A new militia box with 16 troops.

Why is it important there are less in there?

It is not important with less modells, I would just like a new militia box and fewer modells per box seems to be the way GW is going. It seems only goblins, skavens and so on gets boxes of 20 modells today.
Title: Re: New models you expect to see for empire 8th.
Post by: Jivaine SkyWing II on October 08, 2010, 02:51:54 PM
What I would really like to see with the new models is the horses be sculpted to look realistic in comparison to a person  I mean the current version of most of the horses has all the riders look like they are riding Clydesdales.  Maybe have those ones pulling the war altar or something, but serious.

I would like to see a plastic model for a mounted warrior priest.  Maybe make a box set like the general / bsb box except for 2 warrior priests and can make one mounted and one on foot.

I would also like to see the plastic reiksguard knights on foot. 

Yes, a new Karl Franz miniature would be good too. 

Also is there currently all the different elector counts available? 


I agree that some witch hunter models would be very cool too.
Title: Re: New models you expect to see for empire 8th.
Post by: Rev Killjoy on October 15, 2010, 07:40:15 PM
Halflings on war pig cavalry.
Title: Re: New models you expect to see for empire 8th.
Post by: Delthos on October 27, 2010, 08:44:50 AM
I think we will get a unit of Winged Two-Tailed Powder Monkeys with spears. They will have an option to upgrade to halberds.
Title: Re: New models you expect to see for empire 8th.
Post by: judoonplatoon1 on October 27, 2010, 08:12:18 PM
As long as they can do suicide runs  :engel:
Title: Re: New models you expect to see for empire 8th.
Post by: Johedl on October 28, 2010, 08:12:11 PM
I put together a Rocket battery the other day and wanted to use the head that was holding his hands over his ears on an old running running torso from the Free Company box I found in my bit box (As a flee marker), but the arms could not fit over the torso's shoulders. It was no problem to fit the arms on a state troopers body so it seems that the size of the Empire modells has become slender. Would that suggest that the Militia box is next in line to be replaced?
Title: Re: New models you expect to see for empire 8th.
Post by: Captain Dob Van Dwi on November 01, 2010, 12:11:58 PM
Plastic Warrior Priest and Witch Hunter box.
New Knights metal or other wise.
New War Alter. That said I allready made mine out of cardbord.
New millita/free company
More Elector Counts. We got Mr. Nutjob why not the others?
Title: Re: New models you expect to see for empire 8th.
Post by: Flagellant on November 04, 2010, 11:16:18 PM
i'm not that demanding;

new warhorses.


The knights we have now are the same horses as my knights from 5th ed..
Title: Re: New models you expect to see for empire 8th.
Post by: mr chumley warner on November 15, 2010, 09:09:35 AM
Definately I would like to see some new knights!

Also Reiksguard Foot Knights would be amazing.

I don't think we need Ogres, just use the Rare OOP Marauder Ogres from the late 1980's, they are incredible, but a little expensive on e bay , I spent 170 on 6 , lol.

I don't like the Empire Lord plastic set, the model looks a bit cartoonish, there is something not quite right, so a new Lord pack would be good.

They need to sort out the latest state troops, there is something not right about them, all the gubbins they ahve hanging from their waist lines.

I recon they need to release state troops from different Empire regions.

New Kislev plastic troops, new Marienberg plastic troops, Middenlend, Nordland, etc

Bring out 6 different box sets of state troops!

WHat about an Empire Dragon carrying a Wizard??


Title: Re: New models you expect to see for empire 8th.
Post by: YankinDeez on November 28, 2010, 10:39:15 AM
New Knights are a must really. The barded warhorses look like ponies compared to newer releases.
Title: Re: New models you expect to see for empire 8th.
Post by: Padre on November 28, 2010, 07:02:58 PM
...  cause me to buy the Island of Blood set just because it has the Griffon on it...

Don't do that. It's cast in such a way that converting it to Empire would be a very difficult job, frustrating and dangerous for your fingertips (sharp knife craziness).
Title: Re: New models you expect to see for empire 8th.
Post by: Uryens de Crux on November 29, 2010, 11:52:26 AM
New Knights are a must really. The barded warhorses look like ponies compared to newer releases.

No, that means they need to redo everyone elses knights...Empire knights get any bigger and they will have to go on monster bases, they dont rank up as it is.
Title: Re: New models you expect to see for empire 8th.
Post by: Shadowlord on December 14, 2010, 06:51:22 AM
Odd that no one mentioned the demigryph riders that is described over and over again in the new 8th ed. book.

My guess is that it will be heavy shock cavalry and as rare as the new giant spiders for O&G.

Just saying...
Title: Re: New models you expect to see for empire 8th.
Post by: Kwisatz Haderach on December 14, 2010, 07:31:24 AM
New Knights are a must really. The barded warhorses look like ponies compared to newer releases.

No, that means they need to redo everyone elses knights...Empire knights get any bigger and they will have to go on monster bases, they dont rank up as it is.

That is due to poor design, not size.  Brets have bigger horses and there rank up just fine.
Title: Re: New models you expect to see for empire 8th.
Post by: DariusZero on December 14, 2010, 08:32:46 AM
Odd that no one mentioned the demigryph riders that is described over and over again in the new 8th ed. book.

My guess is that it will be heavy shock cavalry and as rare as the new giant spiders for O&G.

Just saying...

Gw should make at least two different normal riders and at least a separete champion model. Seeing 5 of those in a unit....would be a spectacle indeed.
Title: Re: New models you expect to see for empire 8th.
Post by: Uryens de Crux on December 17, 2010, 10:24:50 AM
New Knights are a must really. The barded warhorses look like ponies compared to newer releases.

No, that means they need to redo everyone elses knights...Empire knights get any bigger and they will have to go on monster bases, they dont rank up as it is.

That is due to poor design, not size.  Brets have bigger horses and there rank up just fine.

Brets are supposed to have bigger horses. And they benefit from not having barding on them, just caprisons.
Title: Re: New models you expect to see for empire 8th.
Post by: DariusZero on December 17, 2010, 10:53:55 AM
I like present empire barded horses, if you look at the horses of other minis companies, you will hardly find such precisely designed ant anatomically correct horses as GW are.  Whoever designed them is a master of sculpting.

I wouldn't mind having some some set of barded horses in a different design, like they did with metal horses for characters. I like the horse of Swarrtzhelm for example.