Warhammer-Empire.com

The Empire at War => WHFB The Electors' Forum => Topic started by: zak on January 24, 2015, 11:27:21 PM

Title: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: zak on January 24, 2015, 11:27:21 PM
- New WFB Rules book : before summer 2015.
 - Added skirmish game in it, but not main.

 Source want to stay anonymous, sorry for that.


sounds about what I was thinking  :::cheers:::
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: Ships on January 25, 2015, 12:37:23 AM
Sounds like what I've been hearing as well on the forums. I'd like to know the setting though and the factions present.
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: zak on January 25, 2015, 12:49:44 AM
every army we have now will be in the next edition  :closed-eyes:
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: Sampson97 on January 25, 2015, 12:57:54 AM
So...All that's happening is just likely some new rules, and a new gametype for us to play with? Huh. Not so bad then! Fine with me if they're not changing it drastically...Think they'll be a new boxset like IoB with a smaller scale rulebook around that time too?
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: Thirsty Beaver on January 25, 2015, 01:57:50 AM
As long as they keep my lizzies, I will play  :closed-eyes:

Any word on the new Bret book? I thought it was due in February, but haven't seen anything since
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: Baron von Klatz on January 25, 2015, 02:12:31 AM
Well one rumor had put the new Bret book before the Archaon book. So it's possible we might see it next month, though since it's the End Times we probably won't see it until after the campaign is over.

Rumor or not I'll  be up till one o'clock watching the GW website and praying to see that glorious sight appear.
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: WoT on January 25, 2015, 02:23:10 AM
I read on warseer the rumour in the OP was made by someone with only one post, so I'm not sure whether it's credible or not.
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: Yvain on January 25, 2015, 03:49:56 AM
I read on warseer the rumour in the OP was made by someone with only one post, so I'm not sure whether it's credible or not.

The original rumor by Henry and Co basically said that 9th was very similar to 8th with the ability to skirmish if you wanted to. It also said it was coming out around summer as well so this one here is probably just some more rumor confirmation.
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: Xathrodox86 on January 25, 2015, 10:56:50 AM
every army we have now will be in the next edition  :closed-eyes:

Including the Lizardmen?
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: Yvain on January 25, 2015, 12:47:49 PM
The rumor said no one was getting squatted. However, that of course doesn't mean they are going to get continued support  :|

On the plus side, there was a later rumor about seeing a Dwarf war engine which was a big golem thing coming, which would go opposed to the Dwarves getting drawn into Empire.
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: Darknight on January 25, 2015, 01:04:39 PM
I hear tell it's going back to hexagonal bases.
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: patsy02 on January 26, 2015, 05:43:23 AM
I've heard it's gonna merge completely with 40k, meaning you can team up with Space Marines and fight Tyranids with your empire army. Karl Franz will come with a bolt gun, and Cannon are replaced with Lascannon.
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 26, 2015, 05:51:22 AM
I hear that not only will there be no squatted armies, they're even bringing back Zoats, Fimir, and the ever popular Pygmies.
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: patsy02 on January 26, 2015, 06:01:06 AM
We're gonna get titans as well, so you can now field Warhounds in your army.
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: Jomppexx on January 26, 2015, 06:12:22 AM
I've heard it's gonna merge completely with 40k, meaning you can team up with Space Marines and fight Tyranids with your empire army. Karl Franz will come with a bolt gun, and Cannon are replaced with Lascannon.

Can Empire ally with Astra Militarum?
I hope Karl Franz will be mounted on a mechanical deathclaw with a power axe.  :closed-eyes:
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: Xathrodox86 on January 26, 2015, 11:28:38 AM
I've heard it's gonna merge completely with 40k, meaning you can team up with Space Marines and fight Tyranids with your empire army. Karl Franz will come with a bolt gun, and Cannon are replaced with Lascannon.

Can Empire ally with Astra Militarum?
I hope Karl Franz will be mounted on a mechanical deathclaw with a power axe.  :closed-eyes:

Thunder Hammer dude, Thunder Hammer. :biggriin:
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: Oxycutor on January 26, 2015, 11:46:59 AM
I've heard because of Ulthuan sinking all the fishmen that had been trapped in their city by the vortex will be free to conquer the world    :-D

I've also heard that the "new" game will start with a campaign called Beginning of Times.  With an Of.   To really distinguish it from The End Times.

I've heard that all the new special characters will be trademarked.  So Emperor Sigmar-Franz(TM)  will lead the new KarlEmpire(TM)
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: GamesPoet on January 26, 2015, 11:59:07 AM
Perhaps the Starship Enterprise might even make an appearance! :icon_wink: :icon_lol:
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: Jomppexx on January 26, 2015, 01:05:20 PM
I've heard it's gonna merge completely with 40k, meaning you can team up with Space Marines and fight Tyranids with your empire army. Karl Franz will come with a bolt gun, and Cannon are replaced with Lascannon.

Can Empire ally with Astra Militarum?
I hope Karl Franz will be mounted on a mechanical deathclaw with a power axe.  :closed-eyes:

Thunder Hammer dude, Thunder Hammer. :biggriin:

Oh right, good you're here.  :-D
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: Commander Bernhardt on January 26, 2015, 01:11:41 PM
I heard women will start playing warhammer
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: cisse on January 26, 2015, 01:17:07 PM
I heard women will start playing warhammer

Now you're just way over the line, this isn't believable anymore.  :wink:

Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: mottdon on January 26, 2015, 01:53:00 PM
Cannon are replaced with Lascannon.
Awww, man! But we've already GOT the Luminark!   :icon_biggrin:

Anyway, I've heard that Valten will get killed, and Grimgor will headbutt Archanon then just walk away disappointed, effectively putting an end to the End of Times.
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: zak on January 26, 2015, 02:59:56 PM
wow...I just walked into crazy town  :-P
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: Jomppexx on January 26, 2015, 03:03:43 PM
Anyway, I've heard that Valten will get killed, and Grimgor will headbutt Archanon then just walk away disappointed, effectively putting an end to the End of Times.
One can only hope.  :closed-eyes:
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: iatroblast on January 26, 2015, 04:34:44 PM
Anyway, I've heard that Valten will get killed, and Grimgor will headbutt Archanon then just walk away disappointed, effectively putting an end to the End of Times.
One can only hope.  :closed-eyes:

A random orc will save the world. again.
I hope that unlike Storm, Nagash and Archaon will destroy each other (and the orc. actually all the orcs. except the black orcs which are nice)
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: mottdon on January 26, 2015, 04:42:31 PM
Boy, the rebuilding/construction industry must be uber lucrative in the Warhammer world.   :-P
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: iatroblast on January 26, 2015, 04:51:55 PM
all we have to do is wait for the comic relief to end the war
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: Darknight on January 26, 2015, 06:06:12 PM
I think Patrick Duffy is going to wake up in the shower and it was all a dream.
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: Casual on January 26, 2015, 06:12:23 PM
Oooooh I like the sound of the small skirmish game!
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: patsy02 on January 26, 2015, 06:58:34 PM
all we have to do is wait for the comic relief to end the war
Having Grimgor Ironhide literally save the world could have been a brilliant ending to a melodramatic, grimdark fairy tale if it wasn't so poorly executed.
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on January 26, 2015, 07:22:34 PM
I think Patrick Duffy is going to wake up in the shower and it was all a dream.

Unless it is the shower scene from Psycho.
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 26, 2015, 07:51:44 PM
I think Patrick Duffy is going to wake up in the shower and it was all a dream.

Unless it is the shower scene from Psycho.

OK, how's this...

I think Patrick Duffy is going to wake up in the shower covered in blood and a collection of fantasy wargaming miniatures.

Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: Syn Ace on January 26, 2015, 08:57:36 PM
all we have to do is wait for the comic relief to end the war

Or comet relief as a twin-tailed comet crashes into the Warhammer world.
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: Philhelm on January 26, 2015, 09:04:25 PM
I heard women will start playing warhammer

That would be horrific.  If I wanted to be around those double-X, genetic freaks, I'd spend time with my wife.
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: zak on January 26, 2015, 09:29:42 PM
 :icon_eek:
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: Xathrodox86 on January 27, 2015, 07:35:23 AM
Anyway, I've heard that Valten will get killed, and Grimgor will headbutt Archanon then just walk away disappointed, effectively putting an end to the End of Times.
One can only hope.  :closed-eyes:

Valten ain't so bad. The main problem with him is his current status. He's just a guy with a hammer now, while before he was the Sigmar Incarnate. :unsure:
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: Baron von Klatz on January 27, 2015, 08:22:00 AM
Anyway, I've heard that Valten will get killed, and Grimgor will headbutt Archanon then just walk away disappointed, effectively putting an end to the End of Times.
One can only hope.  :closed-eyes:

Valten ain't so bad. The main problem with him is his current status. He's just a guy with a hammer now, while before he was the Sigmar Incarnate. :unsure:

Indeed, it is quite the demotion in importance. However, it does mean Sigmar is still in the game. In the Storm of Chaos it was implied Sigmar died and Ulric took his place, it seems the End Times have reversed the situation.

Also, I think a moment of silence is in order for poor Thunderball. I know not if he was retconned but since Middenheim has fallen he surely has died once again. Sleepwell giant defender of Middenheim.   :cry:
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on January 27, 2015, 08:54:15 AM
Or comet relief as a twin-tailed comet crashes into the Warhammer world.

 :smile2:

'Tis a lesson you should heed: Try, try, try again. If Morsslieb don't succeed,: Try, try, try again.
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: Xathrodox86 on January 27, 2015, 08:55:26 AM
Anyway, I've heard that Valten will get killed, and Grimgor will headbutt Archanon then just walk away disappointed, effectively putting an end to the End of Times.
One can only hope.  :closed-eyes:

Valten ain't so bad. The main problem with him is his current status. He's just a guy with a hammer now, while before he was the Sigmar Incarnate. :unsure:

Indeed, it is quite the demotion in importance. However, it does mean Sigmar is still in the game. In the Storm of Chaos it was implied Sigmar died and Ulric took his place, it seems the End Times have reversed the situation.

Also, I think a moment of silence is in order for poor Thunderball. I know not if he was retconned but since Middenheim has fallen he surely has died once again. Sleepwell giant defender of Middenheim.   :cry:

Hopefully not as a mutated mass of tentacles this time...

On the subject of Sigmar. I don't recall him dying in SoC, nor any implications of his death. In fact the WFRP 2nd edition material indicated that he was alive and well, especially "The Thousand Thrones" campaign. :-P
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: zak on January 27, 2015, 02:45:08 PM
this just came down the line...interesting if true  :::cheers:::

Re: Warhammer - And Now For Something Completely Different
My understanding based on reading the collective rumors, is that the game isn't a Skirmish Game - it is a scalable game. In other words - New Player  Joe goes out and buys a starter box which features four units - two of 10 and 2 of 5. These units can be deployed in skirmish formation and played right away. However, Joe likes one of the units and buys an expansion box for it, getting one unit of 20. He now deploys that unit in block formation (with bonuses for doing so), while keeping the rest of the units in Skirmish. This allows the game to scale from small to large and grows along with the player. This allows a lower entry (in money and prep time), promotes steady growth into an army instead of an "All in from the git-go" approach that is turning away players, and provides more "footprint size" on the game table, so that small scale games don't feel so much as like "one deck of cards and two sticks of gum".


 :closed-eyes:

 Again - aggregate evaluation of rumors (and actually heard this stated directly as well).

Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: mottdon on January 27, 2015, 03:09:33 PM
What the heck does "one deck of cards and two sticks of gum" mean?

Anyway, that could be a good solution.  small units are considered to be skirmished while larger units rank up and get the rank bonuses.  Makes sense to me.  You don't really get the benefit of ranks even after a skirmished unit goes into CC (maybe one), but if I am marching a unit of 10 Halberdiers as a detachment for a unit of Greatswords, it would be nice for them to get that -1 to shooting for being considered skirmished. 

Makes sense fluff wise as well.  A unit with fewer guys in it will be able to move around more easily.
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on January 27, 2015, 03:13:37 PM
Of course, it makes sense. They could have done this years ago. Still no reason to dispense with the current setting (which seems to be likely). On the contrary, you would think the current setting is perfect for fluff on all levels.
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: mottdon on January 27, 2015, 03:53:00 PM
Yeah, even if I don't believe the rumors at all, I still would have absolutely no idea where GW is going with this EoT storyline. 
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: Darknight on January 27, 2015, 04:55:17 PM
I am not sure GW has any idea either.
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on January 27, 2015, 05:02:53 PM
Yeah, even if I don't believe the rumors at all, I still would have absolutely no idea where GW is going with this EoT storyline.

It is not EoT, it is ET. And that is probably where they are going: ExtraTerrestial.
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: Siberius on January 27, 2015, 05:52:39 PM
It'll be kinda amusing if it turns out they make a really great game after all the complaining that has gone on based purely on rumours.
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: Ursa Doom on January 27, 2015, 06:08:04 PM
Well, as long as I can still play Warhammer like Warhammer I will give it a try. I probably still wont get over what they have done to the setting, and I will mostly ignore the changes and run with the Nordland army as i intended.
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: Siberius on January 27, 2015, 06:34:06 PM
Yeah, I mean it may be rubbish or it may turn out good. But why spend months being upset over it before you've even really seen what it will be, yet alone experienced it?
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on January 27, 2015, 06:55:28 PM
Because we live in the vain hope that expressing our views may perhaps make GW think again, if the rumours are in fact true?
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: Ursa Doom on January 27, 2015, 07:22:06 PM
Yeah, I mean it may be rubbish or it may turn out good. But why spend months being upset over it before you've even really seen what it will be, yet alone experienced it?

Because we are worried that GW might screw it all up?
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: zak on January 27, 2015, 08:09:04 PM
of course GW knows where the EOT is going they have been planning it for years now .... this guy published on Warseer.com many years ago that GW is planning some sweeping changes to the fantasy setting ( NO ONE believed him and he was laughed off the site) BAM!! here we are. The game will be Warhammer but maybe with a twist here and there. For old timers it going to be or feel like Warhammer but for the new guy it might draw them back or into the game. This is a business and with the current finical  issues world wide little plastic men are not the priorities of the VAST majority of people. ( nor should it be ours, take care of your families first!!) I know there is that one guy who bought a box set instead of dippers  :mellow: I ran a game shop, I know how some gamers think! LOL
 :::cheers:::
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 27, 2015, 08:19:29 PM
Yeah, I mean it may be rubbish or it may turn out good. But why spend months being upset over it before you've even really seen what it will be, yet alone experienced it?

Because internet.

 :::cheers:::

Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: mottdon on January 27, 2015, 08:25:45 PM
Yeah, I mean it may be rubbish or it may turn out good. But why spend months being upset over it before you've even really seen what it will be, yet alone experienced it?
Because we're actually just really tall Dwarfs.  Grumble, grumble, grumble... :x
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: zak on January 27, 2015, 09:02:19 PM
because half the fun of rumors is the excitement and heartache that comes before we even know what it is officially...its guy drama  :-P
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: Ursa Doom on January 27, 2015, 09:03:34 PM
It beats political debates at the back table.
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on January 27, 2015, 09:06:43 PM
And who is actually posting most of the rumours in this forum? zak :dry:
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: zak on January 27, 2015, 09:10:41 PM
your mom ...HA!! I don't know ..I'm probably one of the top ones. when I was managing a  game shop I loved finding tidbits of information and passing them along to other gamers. Some booed some laughed and others got real excited. I guess its based off of  personality I wonder what the psychological issue would be called for those who hate change? I just graduated with my BS in Psychology so maybe I will look it up hahaha
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on January 27, 2015, 09:12:29 PM
Yes, graduated with BS in Psychology.  :engel:
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: wilsonthenarc on January 27, 2015, 09:42:11 PM
Q1). Will all armies currently in 8th still be around in 9th?
Q2). Will WHFB models be mounted on round bases, or square bases, or - heck - even hex bases?
Q3). Will the rules still be mostly (name a %) similar in function? M, WS, BS, Ld, etc.
Q4). Will the fluff still be mostly the same (name a %)

I think the answers are
Q1 - Yes, +1
Q2 - Square
Q3 - 85% similar
Q4 - 55% similar
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: zak on January 27, 2015, 09:50:38 PM
Yes, graduated with BS in Psychology.  :engel:

HAHA!! I meant BA  :-P
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: zak on January 27, 2015, 09:51:47 PM
Q1). Will all armies currently in 8th still be around in 9th?
Q2). Will WHFB models be mounted on round bases, or square bases, or - heck - even hex bases?
Q3). Will the rules still be mostly (name a %) similar in function? M, WS, BS, Ld, etc.
Q4). Will the fluff still be mostly the same (name a %)

I think the answers are
Q1 - Yes, +1
Q2 - Square
Q3 - 85% similar
Q4 - 55% similar

I think you might be right  :::cheers:::
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: Oxycutor on January 27, 2015, 10:20:37 PM
your mom ...HA!! I don't know ..I'm probably one of the top ones. when I was managing a  game shop I loved finding tidbits of information and passing them along to other gamers. Some booed some laughed and others got real excited. I guess its based off of  personality I wonder what the psychological issue would be called for those who hate change? I just graduated with my BS in Psychology so maybe I will look it up hahaha

I would say anyone who is really looking forward to the big changes to the warhammer world are either wearing a Red Crown, or have a Purple Hand.
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: zak on January 28, 2015, 01:51:13 AM
your mom ...HA!! I don't know ..I'm probably one of the top ones. when I was managing a  game shop I loved finding tidbits of information and passing them along to other gamers. Some booed some laughed and others got real excited. I guess its based off of  personality I wonder what the psychological issue would be called for those who hate change? I just graduated with my BS in Psychology so maybe I will look it up hahaha

I would say anyone who is really looking forward to the big changes to the warhammer world are either wearing a Red Crown, or have a Purple Hand.

whatcha talkin-bout Willis   :?
http://youtu.be/Qw9oX-kZ_9k

Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: The Peacemaker on January 28, 2015, 01:59:15 AM
- New WFB Rules book : before summer 2015.
 - Added skirmish game in it, but not main.

 Source want to stay anonymous, sorry for that.


sounds about what I was thinking  :::cheers:::

This rumor doesn't really need a source since its so generic that anyone could make it up.
The editions always come out in summer. 
Small skirmish game? 4th edition 40k had that.

Weather it makes it into the book or not its probably 4pages worth or rules? 3months until release date they can make changes and easily add or take something like this out.
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: Victor on January 28, 2015, 01:59:33 AM
Maybe all the rumours about 9th edition turn out to be a huge publicity stunt by GW and instead we will get a decent game with sensible changes and great miniatures. But probably not ...
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: S.O.F on January 28, 2015, 02:40:10 AM
whatcha talkin-bout Willis   :?
http://youtu.be/Qw9oX-kZ_9k

Two of the most important Tzeentch Cults in the Empire
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 28, 2015, 03:45:24 AM
My understanding based on reading the collective rumors, is that the game isn't a Skirmish Game - it is a scalable game. In other words - New Player  Joe goes out and buys a starter box which features four units - two of 10 and 2 of 5. These units can be deployed in skirmish formation and played right away. However, Joe likes one of the units and buys an expansion box for it, getting one unit of 20. He now deploys that unit in block formation (with bonuses for doing so), while keeping the rest of the units in Skirmish. This allows the game to scale from small to large and grows along with the player. This allows a lower entry (in money and prep time), promotes steady growth into an army instead of an "All in from the git-go" approach that is turning away players, and provides more "footprint size" on the game table, so that small scale games don't feel so much as like "one deck of cards and two sticks of gum".


What's keeping anyone from doing this right now, other than the the skirmish part? And even then, what's the big benefit of having those units skirmish rather than form up, if both sides are playing at the same value?

If anything makes small games impractical, it's the potential for abuse and lack of balance with current army lists.
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on January 28, 2015, 09:59:13 AM
Maybe all the rumours about 9th edition turn out to be a huge publicity stunt by GW and instead we will get a decent game with sensible changes and great miniatures. But probably not ...

I have the impression that many are postponing purchases, because of the uncertainty. If it is a publicity stunt, it may well be hurting present sales, without any guarantee that future growth will make up for that.
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: Syn Ace on January 28, 2015, 06:39:43 PM
Granted it's an extremely small sample, but no one in my group is buying any WFB models for the time being until we figure out what is going on.
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: Oxycutor on January 28, 2015, 07:25:18 PM
In my area, there are people buying up stuff in case it goes OOP.  And there are people holding off until it's clear what the future holds for Warhammer Fantasy.

Sent from my KFAPWI using Tapatalk

Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: mottdon on January 28, 2015, 08:11:44 PM
We have both in my area.  Some are dropping out altogether, and playing other games like 40K, until 9th is released, and others are buying up everything that has been killed off in EoT and anything that might not make it (like Lizardmen).  Seems kinda like a wash to me.
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: Syn Ace on January 28, 2015, 08:53:41 PM
One of my buddies refuses to play at all for the time being and has picked up a Malifaux..err, army? Band? Gang? I'm not even familiar with the game. Anyway, he's shelved both his Nurgle and Skaven armies till the dust settles.
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: Oxycutor on January 28, 2015, 09:56:19 PM
There was a big surge in interest in fantasy at the start of The End Times, and a few people in my area started playing both GW games, and started small fantasy armies.  The End Times Khaine was a bit of a turning point though, as that was when some people started putting the brakes on.   The End Times Thanquol killed it even further, especially in light of the current rumours going round.  I think there are probably a lor of people who have just bought armies that may well feel a little duped if there is a danger of getting squatted.  And some are just waiting to see what will happen in a few months before making a decision
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: Syn Ace on January 28, 2015, 10:47:27 PM
Yeah, I was in the middle of revamping my Dark Elf army with all new models and I have half of a Skaven army and a Chaos of Warriors army that I was growing -- all on hold for now. Hope they're not drastically overhauled so I can continue to build them out.
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: Gneisenau on January 28, 2015, 10:50:27 PM
Yeah, I was in the middle of revamping my Dark Elf army with all new models and I have half of a Skaven army and a Chaos of Warriors army that I was growing --

How do you do that?
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: Syn Ace on January 28, 2015, 11:02:45 PM
Pour plenty of blood on the Chaos Warriors as fertilizer and bam -- grows like weeds.

As far as affording it all -- I have a decent job and no family and a woman I'm dating who lives in another city so see her a few times a month. She just knows I have a lot of minis. It's when they move in and get a sense of what you've got that they start trying to put the breaks on the addiction. "Wait, I haven't seen that before. Is that new?"

I don't even play the other armies except rarely-- usually just Empire.

My name is Syn Ace and I have a addiction....
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: Gneisenau on January 28, 2015, 11:04:47 PM
Good for you! :::cheers:::
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on January 28, 2015, 11:53:29 PM
I don't even play the other armies except rarely-- usually just Empire.

My name is Syn Ace and I have a addiction....

Just get rid of all the abominations that are not Empire, and you will be saved.
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: Baron von Klatz on January 29, 2015, 12:43:58 AM
Pour plenty of blood on the Chaos Warriors as fertilizer and bam -- grows like weeds.

...anyone else picturing a Khorne chia pet?

I don't even play the other armies except rarely-- usually just Empire.

My name is Syn Ace and I have a addiction....

Just get rid of all the abominations that are not Empire, and you will be saved.

Agreed, just get rid of all those evil models and you'll be fine. It's only an addiction if you can't quit, I'm sure you'll be fine.

(Two months later walking down the street)
Baron von Klatz: Syn Ace what are you doing in a cardboard box?! :Ohmy:

Syn Ace:(rocking back and forward clutching a chaos model) I sold my house to pay for the new Archaon riding a dragon model. :icon_cool:

Baron von Klatz:(facepalms). :eusa_wall:
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: zak on January 29, 2015, 11:37:55 AM
haha true  :::cheers:::
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: mottdon on January 29, 2015, 03:42:48 PM
It's better to ask forgiveness than permission...sometimes... :unsure:
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: Xathrodox86 on January 30, 2015, 08:07:42 AM
I don't even play the other armies except rarely-- usually just Empire.

My name is Syn Ace and I have a addiction....

Just get rid of all the abominations that are not Empire, and you will be saved.

I play Space Marines, Imperial Guard and Empire and my GF tollerates my hobby with the patience of a Saint. It pays to know house diplomacy tough. :-P
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: Syphon on January 30, 2015, 08:20:24 AM
That you're still spoken for speaks volumes for your lady, Xath. Especially given that you picked two of the hordiest armies in both ranges.
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: Xathrodox86 on January 30, 2015, 08:40:33 AM
That you're still spoken for speaks volumes for your lady, Xath. Especially given that you picked two of the hordiest armies in both ranges.

I'm a lucky guy, I'll tell you that. Not to mention she plays board games and RPG's with me. :biggriin:
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: Mogsam on January 30, 2015, 08:57:30 AM
Yes, graduated with BS in Psychology.  :engel:

HAHA!! I meant BA  :-P

Psychology is a BSc..... I have one.

There's plenty of legitimate bollocks to justify the whinging.
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: Ursa Doom on January 30, 2015, 10:35:35 AM
Hmm, I wonder if Flagellants would be more useful if they could be used in a skirmish formation?
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: Jomppexx on January 30, 2015, 01:22:10 PM
Hmm, I wonder if Flagellants would be more useful if they could be used in a skirmish formation?
I don't understand what you mean.
If they were spread out like skirmishers?
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on January 30, 2015, 02:53:08 PM
I presume primarily for the -1 to Hit from shooting and perhaps the improved mobility.
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: Syn Ace on January 30, 2015, 07:46:38 PM
I don't even play the other armies except rarely-- usually just Empire.

My name is Syn Ace and I have a addiction....

Just get rid of all the abominations that are not Empire, and you will be saved.

I play Space Marines, Imperial Guard and Empire and my GF tollerates my hobby with the patience of a Saint. It pays to know house diplomacy tough. :-P

Yeah, I've got 40K armies too.

My name is Syn Ace, and I seriously have a problem...
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: mr chumley warner on January 30, 2015, 08:29:44 PM
Mate texted me saying Dwarves , Empire and Bret are merging ?

WHat have I missed?

 :eusa_wall:
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on January 30, 2015, 08:33:19 PM
WHat have I missed?

Life, given your involvement in Warhammer.
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: Xathrodox86 on January 31, 2015, 07:53:43 AM
WHat have I missed?

Life, given your involvement in Warhammer.

Don't pretend we have any of that around here. ;)
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: Oxycutor on January 31, 2015, 10:56:29 AM
Mate texted me saying Dwarves , Empire and Bret are merging ?

WHat have I missed?

 :eusa_wall:

Where have you been?  Have you not been keeping up with End Times at all? and the fluff changes that have come with it?

Anyway as for the Empire, Dwarfs and Bretonnians merging, that is pure Speculation or wishlisting.   There are no rumours suggesting that.

Rumours are saying the End Times will result in the destruction of the world and the surivors end up in bubbles of reality in the warp.
Rumours are saying that there will be 6 factions in the next edition (Though these will be sort of new factions)
Rumours are saying that old armies(ie 8th ed) will be still playable.
Rumours are saying that humans are getting some kind of 'powered' super humans equivalent to chaos warriors - which people have taken to mean fantasy space marines. Emperor Karl-Franz ascended (incarnate of heavens) is supposedly the prototype.
Rumours are saying 9th (or 2.0 1st depeniding on how the rumours are going) will be a round base skirmish game rather than a rank and fle square base battle game.
Rumours are saying all sort of stuff that is being misinterpreted or has wild speculation.

It's really unclear what the future holds for warhammer.
For certain it's been the lesser system for quite some time, some people have said it had reached the point it wasn't covering it's own costs, so it needed to change to save it.    The End Times is certainly heading towards a radical change, and it's a good bet that the fluff will be quite different.  Whether the game system changes coming are as radical is uncertain.

I think the idea of Empire, Bretonnians and Dwarfs combining probably comes from the "6 factions" rumour, which I think is probably 6 starting factions, or even 6 new factions.   But given that by the end of End Time Thanquol, Bretonnia is supposedly destroyed by Skaven, the Dwarfs pretty much only have a small army of slayers left, and the Empire has lost all of it's major cities.  There isn't a lot left to combine.   Since the start of The End Times, because the Tomb Kings and Vampire Counts factions were combined in an Undead Legions list  (I shoudl say re-combined, as back in 4th edition it was just an Undead army), people have been talking about EVERY army getting combined with another one, and the 6 factions rumour has just chucked petrol on that barbeque of a rumour.

So.  There isn't any substance to Empire, Bretonnia and Dwarfs combining, there are hints for and against it in the End Times. 

The Warhammer World and the game are changing, but nobody really knows where it's going, and it's causing a lot of concerrn for the Warhammer community.
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: mr chumley warner on January 31, 2015, 11:04:05 AM
Thanks for the update ,

 :::cheers:::
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: zak on January 31, 2015, 02:43:50 PM
Above ALLL take it with a grain of salt .......... nothing has been confirmed as of yet just speculation  :::cheers:::
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on January 31, 2015, 03:33:00 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoWtHqmITOM

 :engel:
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: zak on January 31, 2015, 07:12:15 PM
 :::cheers:::
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: Ursa Doom on January 31, 2015, 07:30:04 PM
If we end up with Bubblehammer I will probably go into this mode for a week, before I get over it because I will remember that I haven't liked most of the fluff since the end of Storm of Chaos, and I will pretend that it never happened as well.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=dib2-HBsF08
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on January 31, 2015, 09:09:33 PM
:::cheers:::

Note how it ends with Bubblehomer.  :engel:
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: zak on February 01, 2015, 04:25:08 AM
Bubble-Homer wants you
(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss300/zak-m/imagesLBNSQ5KE.jpg) (http://s585.photobucket.com/user/zak-m/media/imagesLBNSQ5KE.jpg.html)

"Kids, you tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try." 

Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: Warlord on February 01, 2015, 01:29:49 PM
Rumours are saying that humans are getting some kind of 'powered' super humans equivalent to chaos warriors - which people have taken to mean fantasy space marines. Emperor Karl-Franz ascended (incarnate of heavens) is supposedly the prototype.

I never interpreted that from the rumours. I interpreted it was those shining grail knights that Alarielle (or Lileath, or who ever that Elf lady is) had empowered to guard the new 'realm' would be the equivalent of the Chaos Warriors, rather than some kind of Karl clone...

Since the start of The End Times, because the Tomb Kings and Vampire Counts factions were combined in an Undead Legions list  (I shoudl say re-combined, as back in 4th edition it was just an Undead army), people have been talking about EVERY army getting combined with another one, and the 6 factions rumour has just chucked petrol on that barbeque of a rumour.

To be fair, Undead weren't the only army to combine.
3 out of the 4 ET books feature combined lists.

So.  There isn't any substance to Empire, Bretonnia and Dwarfs combining, there are hints for and against it in the End Times. 

Where are the hints against it?
Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: Oxycutor on February 01, 2015, 01:50:06 PM
The first page of the rumours on the now massive thread on Warseer outright states Karl-Franz as prototype for fantasy space marines.  With a small caveat of 'probably'.

There has been discussion on it and the dead frail knights spirits Lileath used to build the new world for Araloth to escape to was a theory, but that'll me would be an Elven thing rather than human.

Yes, there were combined lists in Glottkin and Khaine.  But the speculation that all armies would be combined has been going on since Nagash.

Sent from my KFAPWI using Tapatalk

Title: Re: 9th Edition Rumor ** small rumor**
Post by: Ursa Doom on February 01, 2015, 02:11:10 PM
Bubble-Homer wants you
(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss300/zak-m/imagesLBNSQ5KE.jpg) (http://s585.photobucket.com/user/zak-m/media/imagesLBNSQ5KE.jpg.html)

"Kids, you tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try."

So the Simpsons predicted Bubblehammer?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDuMp2kDxos