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Title: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on July 31, 2015, 11:48:38 AM
As Fidelis remarked the 9th edition thread isn't covering this topic anymore, so I wanted to start a new one where people can talk about the new stuff and repacked stuff that is coming out for Warhammer Age of Sigmar.

So I'll start off with a link to another thread I made with a list of what we know and is here and what might come about the miniatures them self
http://warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php/topic,50776.0.html

I would lik this topic to expand on this and everything else with it.

So I'll bring back my comment in the other thread to start with
Those new Paladins are brutal from what I have seen from pictures out of the WD! Decimators and Protectors.

Added with the selling of a Sylvaneth battalion box 36 Miniatures (32x Dryads(plastic), 1 Branchwraith(resin), 3 Treelords (ancient or Spirit of Durthu options)(plastic))

Also to be expected: Prosecutors with spear/shield?

What about some of the expected Khorne dudes? from the big book's Khorne's Warhorde formation:
Skullgrinder
Slaughterpriest
Exalted/Aspiring Deathbringer

And what about Empire models, War Altar, Warrior Priests and Flaggelants most likely as they are featured prominently in the big book
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Lord_Crom on July 31, 2015, 12:11:02 PM
In the big book there is a battleplan that is about storming a fortress. The fortress in my opinion seems it could be a new kit as it is repeated in some other images. I may have got that wrong. It does seem a little too Chaos to fit with my force but I liked the look of it.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on July 31, 2015, 12:26:08 PM
watchtower seems to be a new one page 154  and 157 and on page 160 in the background? Tower seems to be there with additions also on page 90-91 the big diorama several times. Page 220 aso features a thing like it and something else with a big head. which is there again on 223 and 224

there is also some kind of obelisk thingy page 162 and 165 in The Ritual battleplan

I also see a rocky formation with 3 big skulls appear numerous times 104 -105 the seraphon pages and in the background of page 107 behind the spider gobbo's
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Lord_Crom on July 31, 2015, 12:35:49 PM
Just checked the book now and I think you are right. No longer think it is a fortress but just the Chaos looking watch tower repeated over and over.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on July 31, 2015, 12:40:49 PM
Probably something modular again like the Ophidian Archway and the Numinous Occulum are, and they can be combined as well according to the new WD.
I think it will be the same with that watchtower and that building with that big head.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Darknight on July 31, 2015, 12:56:46 PM
And what about Empire models, War Altar, Warrior Priests and Flaggelants most likely as they are featured prominently in the big book

I think the post-apocalyptic nature of the setting - realms fought over for so very long civilizations have been rebuilt and destroyed - suggests this kind of thing will be the only stuff left from the Empire. Flaggies are appropriate, and some kind of weird, overly-baroque cult of Sigmar is likely too. But I think we will not see infantry and knights in the same style as we have before.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on July 31, 2015, 01:42:54 PM
Pg12-13 shows a standard and musician we haven't seen models for yet.

Pg28-29 shows variations of the Khorne stuff with a wierd double ax battl'eth kind of thing.

pg35 shows us Fyreslayers

pg45 has some kind of rock giant

Pg58-59 could mean some kind of rocl/lave beast

Pg75 - Could we get an actual Sigmar model?

Pg90-91 previewed loads of stuff, the Judicators, Retributors, Decimators and Protectors which go on pre-order tomorrow.  There is an alternate of the flyers with spear/glaive like weapons. 

But most of all, the new fortress, which looks like it's modular, and can do both castle and watchtower, but looks very chaos, and it's all through the new book.

Pg 104 and 107 - I think that skull piece of scenery is one of the existing Arcane Fulcrums, I don't think it's new

Pg114-115 shows what we can exepct to survive from the Empire range.   I'd specualte if the War Altar survives, teh so will the luminark/hurricanum.

Pretty much anything else human Empire and Bretonian, I'd expect to replaced with somehitng less historical based.

I'd like there to be a unit of Gryphounds, but I don't think it's likely.  Only seen the one that comes with the Lord-Castellant.

Pg214 shows the Dragonfate Dais, that is coming out with the Numinous Occulum soon.  the Dais featured way back in Triumph and treachery along with what is now the Baleful Realmgate

Pg220-221 shows possible the reverse side of some of the chaos watchtower parts, or kits that are modular that can be made together with the watchtower parts.

Pg 225-227 shows the topd down of the fortress parts, and the new Realm of Battle baords to come.  One is picture opposite

I'd bet there are new plastic fleshounds to come as well.

The book has been one of the first thing GW have done for years where they have sneaked in so much stuff that they might have in the pipeline.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on July 31, 2015, 01:47:52 PM
And what about Empire models, War Altar, Warrior Priests and Flaggelants most likely as they are featured prominently in the big book

I think the post-apocalyptic nature of the setting - realms fought over for so very long civilizations have been rebuilt and destroyed - suggests this kind of thing will be the only stuff left from the Empire. Flaggies are appropriate, and some kind of weird, overly-baroque cult of Sigmar is likely too. But I think we will not see infantry and knights in the same style as we have before.

added with Battle Pilgrims and Men-at-arms / Peasant bowmen (left over from Bretonnia) those would be appropriate then as well, Militia from Empire added
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on July 31, 2015, 02:15:40 PM
I'm curious as to how all these things have survived the world being destroyed, and are located on other worlds now.  Any rumors on that?
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Darknight on July 31, 2015, 02:21:45 PM
The Empire warscroll compendium has a suggestion;

Quote
In fair Sigmaron the free people
of humanity gather, preserving
heraldry and cultural traditions from
civilisations ground beneath the weight
of unceasing strife. The clamour of
warlike souls fills the heavens, united in
Sigmar’s name. Though some of these
lost tribes have been driven from their
homelands, and others cast adrift on
the tides of time, every soul amongst
them dreams of wreaking bloody
revenge upon the forces of Chaos.

I think the idea - which I have drawn on for my personal fluff - is that some people were drawn from the World-Before and placed in the mortal realms by gods or the caprices of fate. It's all warp-stuff, so it very unpredictable etc.

Practically, this allows people to continue to use their armies without a "this isn't Age of Sigmar - this is just using those rules."
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on July 31, 2015, 02:26:59 PM
I'm curious as to how all these things have survived the world being destroyed, and are located on other worlds now.  Any rumors on that?

Well in the age of Myth Sigmar walked the realms and made several nations bloom, they could have taken up the same rites and rituals Sigmar (and the other gods) knew from the old world. Thus war altars were made anew, prayers were retaught etc. Guess that a steamtank though won't be coming back due to this.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Darknight on July 31, 2015, 02:38:44 PM
Will in my army :)

Have you read my fluff yet, SKS? :)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on July 31, 2015, 02:45:19 PM
Will in my army :)

Have you read my fluff yet, SKS? :)

Between getting my Liberators done for this months achievement and helping around with my new frontdoor thingy (complete new house entrance).. no not yet
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on July 31, 2015, 02:48:12 PM
About races.. As we have seen the Sylvaneth now, seems they have been extracted from the Wood Elves army, I think we will see a complete new Aelfs faction (comprised of WE, HE and DE) besides the Duardin, Humans.. not so sure still think they might get an auxiliary role with the Stormhosts.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Darknight on July 31, 2015, 02:51:39 PM
Will in my army :)

Have you read my fluff yet, SKS? :)

Between getting my Liberators done for this months achievement and helping around with my new frontdoor thingy (complete new house entrance).. no not yet

Y U HAVE LIFE? :)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on July 31, 2015, 02:52:34 PM
Will in my army :)

Have you read my fluff yet, SKS? :)

Between getting my Liberators done for this months achievement and helping around with my new frontdoor thingy (complete new house entrance).. no not yet

Y U HAVE LIFE? :)

No I don't.. I have kids
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: SoonerSox on August 01, 2015, 01:24:39 AM
I bought some flaggies after a moment of inspiration from the pictures in the book. I might be too conservative to play them though. Not having any armor save is a real negative. I do love that they basically explode all over their opponent though, it's just hard to implement efficiently with so much of the Empire rules built on outlasting your opponent (priests and life wizards). I wonder if the Flaggies would be good to send after that one thing you are afraid to engage with everything else in your army. If a few survive getting to that target then they should all be hitting with 4 attacks and possibly dealing some mortal wounds from battleshock frenzy.

I also ordered some box set Liberators off of ebay so I could recreate that scene in the book. I am looking forward to trying it at least once.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on August 01, 2015, 01:41:03 AM
When I saw a box of the flagellants the other day, almost bought some since I've never had them in my empire army, and would kind of liek to get a box before they are no longer carried.  Not that they are planning to take them away anytime soon, yet ya never know.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on August 01, 2015, 07:40:44 AM
I have 22 flaggelants but can't even remember if I even fielded them yet!
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: mr chumley warner on August 01, 2015, 10:19:45 AM
Just looked on GW website ,

It would appear they have added some even more bizarre Paladins,

then a large swathe of tree men , so it's trees vs warrior gods

lets hope it gets better soon !

Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on August 01, 2015, 10:50:23 AM
I also like the flagellants for their conversion possibilities, and I mean that they'd be good for use across the scope of the Empire line of figures.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Darknight on August 01, 2015, 11:41:39 AM
I wonder if the Flaggies would be good to send after that one thing you are afraid to engage with everything else in your army.

Are you speaking as yourself .... or an Empire general? :)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Lord_Crom on August 04, 2015, 06:41:58 AM
I read on-line that a new book all about getting sigmars hammer back is coming out shortly. I can't imagine it is true as the big book hasn't been out very long. I think someone was just building on the last section of the big book but thought I would include the rumour for interest. Going to concentrate on skaven and models will be repackaged.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Alexis on August 04, 2015, 09:27:16 AM
I read on-line that a new book all about getting sigmars hammer back is coming out shortly. I can't imagine it is true as the big book hasn't been out very long. I think someone was just building on the last section of the big book but thought I would include the rumour for interest. Going to concentrate on skaven and models will be repackaged.

Maybe they're pumping out the early fluff to help settle the storyline, certainly I think it would be a good idea to have a more concrete idea of what the story is. I hope it's true, because it could have scope to include humans.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on August 06, 2015, 10:12:49 AM
I remember Harry saying the remodeled Skaven were going released soon after the Stormcast and chaos forces, hard to say if they'll be released alongside another faction but my bets are on the Duardin.

They're ancient enemies, it helps expands the fluff beyond Sigmar and since they're stated to be a air-heavy force we'll probably see re-packaged dwarven flying machines and bombers.

As for the campaign to regain Sigmar's hammer, I sorta feel that they'll draw that out more than release it in the next book. It will probably be featured heavily though as a build-up to the next campaign.

Interesting sidenote, I just found out that the realm of Ghur has a frozen landscape upon it that the chaos mortals are remaking into a second chaos wasteland like the one from the-world-that-was. I wonder if the free people tried to recreate the Old World amongst the realms before chaos invaded?
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Darknight on August 06, 2015, 10:22:34 AM
I saw a posted release schedule (leaked from WD) which suggests a bunch of Skaven are up next.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on August 06, 2015, 10:26:26 AM
In the extract of the novel War Storm there is also a bit of snow / ice going in the realm of Aqshy (fire) while Vandus is heading north
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Darknight on August 06, 2015, 10:32:10 AM
I read that and found it .... odd.

I really need to get some of these novels and read them so I can better understand the background and setting. Steg; what would you suggest? Is that big book a good way of getting the information? Should I just grab the novels?
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on August 06, 2015, 11:03:17 AM
In the extract of the novel War Storm there is also a bit of snow / ice going in the realm of Aqshy (fire) while Vandus is heading north

That is interesting,  I was thinking nothing but fire and lava.

I wonder if it will be like Banjo-Tooie's Hailfire peaks. :lol:

Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on August 06, 2015, 12:08:33 PM
I read that and found it .... odd.

I really need to get some of these novels and read them so I can better understand the background and setting. Steg; what would you suggest? Is that big book a good way of getting the information? Should I just grab the novels?

I dunno, I liked the big book, but it's also still top level fluff and not yet really going into detail except for the scenario's and those are cool too have.
I dunno about the novels, so far read only that one extract and can't really tell if I like the writers style yet, though the story seems ok sofar, but also to short to really tell yet.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Lord_Crom on August 06, 2015, 12:18:27 PM
I've got the big book so I could get the rules for a couple of Realms, which makes a point for selecting where you fight. I've read one novel "under the Black thumb" and although that was better written than the last few GW novels I've read it didn't really have a lot of fluff. Some good characters though almost tempted me to be Nurgle.

With the end times I only got the rules and fluff not the novels and then later found out they put a lot of details in the novels not in the fluff book. Probably so there was a reason to buy both. In the big book a character dies (won't say who) but there is no detail on how which I figured would be revealed in a later novel.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Alexis on August 06, 2015, 02:33:16 PM
I read that and found it .... odd.

I really need to get some of these novels and read them so I can better understand the background and setting. Steg; what would you suggest? Is that big book a good way of getting the information? Should I just grab the novels?

The big book is interesting and it appears there will be many of them if the speed of the next one is to go by. It doesn't tell you a huge amount if you want pure fluff, but it's nice to have and has some lovely artwork. I see it being great for people doing Khorne or Stormcast armies.

I bought the first novel and I won't lie, it was quite disappointing. It was very much an advertisement for what was in the box and frankly, a bit predictable the entire way through, although it had some interesting nuggets! It was certainly dark in places.

Big book +1, Novel meh...
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Dosiere on August 07, 2015, 02:37:25 AM
I read that and found it .... odd.

I really need to get some of these novels and read them so I can better understand the background and setting. Steg; what would you suggest? Is that big book a good way of getting the information? Should I just grab the novels?

I have been deeply disappointed with the main book and the novel "gates of azyr" to be frank.  Neither has much content.  The main book was the biggest let down.  It was more like looking at an issue of warhammer visions than the introductory fluff book for a brand new setting.  It's all a bunch of blah with WAY too much empty space and pictures.  The scenarios are cool though, the only really juicy part of the whole thing.  Comparing it to my 6ed book it's kind of a joke for the amount of content you get.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on August 07, 2015, 09:15:09 AM
I think what happened with the novel was that GW was pushing for a battle-only perspective of the Eternals to give players an idea of their abilities.  Kind of par for the course really, the novels made after a release are supposed to show off what the new guys can do. We'll probably see better novels as the mortal realms and their inhabitants are revealed to us.

On to rumors, I was reading this sites current rumors and found Lord Crom to be correct, the quest for Ghal Maraz and the Skaven releases are on the horizon.

(A little caution on the site, my phone had alot of unresponsive problems with it so be careful)
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/1560/655944.page

Interesting to note, I heard that, besides being the bane of chaos, Ghal Maraz is a large part of Sigmar's powers. One fellow said that Sigmar is actually getting weaker as he reforges the Eternals over and over again. Only the fabled warhammer can give Sigmar his full powers back, so that explains why he hasn't been on the frontlines.

Sigmar's been conserving his powers for maintaining his army, if he gets his hammer back it would be a game changer. We'd probably get to see a Sigmar model finally be made as well. :biggriin:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Xathrodox86 on August 07, 2015, 11:59:52 AM
He already has one Baron. ;) I've always envisioned this to be an actual model of the God-King. Look at the artworks from AoS. His armour is very similar.

(http://i57.tinypic.com/fddnpw.jpg)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Alexis on August 07, 2015, 03:09:13 PM

Interesting sidenote, I just found out that the realm of Ghur has a frozen landscape upon it that the chaos mortals are remaking into a second chaos wasteland like the one from the-world-that-was. I wonder if the free people tried to recreate the Old World amongst the realms before chaos invaded?

Hmmm, do the current humans even know the Old World existed? I didn't think anyone escaped, except some divinities/divinities to be.

If they did, that would be cool

Also, having a frozen chaos place at least satisfies my desire for my marauders to be more vikingly!  :icon_smile:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Darknight on August 07, 2015, 03:13:39 PM
I think - with all the issues of portals, gateways, and the warping power of Chaos on both time and cause & effect - it is quite reasonable to say there are groups of people who were lifted from the Old World to the Mortal Realms through any kind of explanation.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on August 07, 2015, 03:17:00 PM
Sounds more like myth to me.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Dosiere on August 07, 2015, 03:25:47 PM
Going by the end times fluff I'm not sure if anything survived.  Aside from time travel it's safe to say the empire is well and truly gone.  The fluff blurb at the beginning of the warscrolls is just an excuse to use the old miniatures, and I don't think is an indication GW actually wants the old world to stick around in little bubbles messing up their new setting. 
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Darknight on August 07, 2015, 03:32:34 PM
I dunno, man - the fact they specifically say things like "Sigmaron" and so forth ...

They could have made it explicit it was pre-End Times - "use these Warscrolls to play games set in The Time Before using your old figures and Age of Sigmar rules!". But they didn't. I think GW is wanting to imply there are communities of people very similar to the Empire etc.

Now, that doesn't mean it IS the Empire - that is destroyed. But, rather, they are people who a living like the Empire did.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Dosiere on August 07, 2015, 04:16:23 PM
True, true, but I think if GW was serious about the aesthetic sticking around there would be more in the new books about it.  I'm fully expecting the old armies to be slowly phased out if GW ever releases anything that's not a stormcast or chaos model though. 
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on August 07, 2015, 04:48:58 PM
I dunno, man - the fact they specifically say things like "Sigmaron" and so forth ...

They could have made it explicit it was pre-End Times - "use these Warscrolls to play games set in The Time Before using your old figures and Age of Sigmar rules!". But they didn't. I think GW is wanting to imply there are communities of people very similar to the Empire etc.

Now, that doesn't mean it IS the Empire - that is destroyed. But, rather, they are people who a living like the Empire did.

See Bold.. actually they did..somewhere. If I can find it back I will link it, but I thought it was the "What's new section" that described the warscrolls.

Also the Age of Myth where Sigmar roamed the Mortal lands that Dracothian showed him the path too (thus new worlds) he helped civilizations there build up like he used to see. And the Age of Myth was centuries long! So any Empire'ish stuff that there is would be from the eye of the Beholder being Sigmar.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Darknight on August 07, 2015, 05:12:53 PM
My army remembers the Age of Myth fondly ... that was before the barbarian glory hound betrayed us.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Calisson on August 08, 2015, 12:06:57 AM
They could have made it explicit it was pre-End Times - "use these Warscrolls to play games set in The Time Before using your old figures and Age of Sigmar rules!". But they didn't.

See Bold.. actually they did..somewhere. If I can find it back I will link it, but I thought it was the "What's new section" that described the warscrolls.
Maybe p.2 of each warscroll compendium?
Quote from: p.2 of each warscroll compendium
The warscrolls in this compendium
allow you to use your Citadel
Miniatures collection in fantastical
battle, whether telling epic stories set
during the Age of Sigmar, or recreating
the wars of the world-that-was
.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on August 08, 2015, 08:09:48 AM
or that! LoL
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on August 08, 2015, 05:55:10 PM
If I get around to giving WAoS (sounds like a radio station) a try, and I hope to do so soon, it definitey will likely be the latter, and highly unlikely most definitely not be the former.

Hmmm ... HUMDNBTF!

(GP ... you being silly?)

Not me. :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Darknight on August 08, 2015, 07:59:43 PM
Based on my experiences, and what I have read of battle reports etc., the game is surprisingly tactical for a thing with 4 pages of rules. I think you will be - if you allow yourself to move away from the notion this is anything like Fantasy - pleasantly surprised. There are a lot of tactics and strategies which can be used in the game, and situations which fall out of the rules.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on August 09, 2015, 01:21:13 AM
So apparently we will get some new insights from the short video of the new book.
featured here http://www.games-workshop.com/en-NL/blog/blog.jsp

Beastmen make an appearance in a picture
Khorne Wrathmongers, Putrid Blightkings, Chaos Spawn warscrolls
As mentioned in the units thread: The Bleak Horde, chaos warriors of Tzeentch on how to paint section
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Calisson on August 09, 2015, 01:48:28 AM
Interesting to see mere humans at 1:23.
War-priests obviously on the left.
What are the other humans?
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on August 09, 2015, 09:43:13 AM
Interesting to see mere humans at 1:23.
War-priests obviously on the left.
What are the other humans?

Can't tell from either vid on 1:23 (no humans), but warrior priests and flaggelants are featured often
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on August 09, 2015, 04:55:29 PM
Chaos Spawn warscroll from the 2nd video has an ability to add one of the 4 Chaos names as Keyword even Slaanesh!!!
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Darknight on August 09, 2015, 05:58:38 PM
I think Slaanesh is still part of the lore. If they wanted to ditch the 4th Chaos God, they would have done. The fact (s)he is imprisoned shouldn't make much difference, really - "imprisoned god" is totally a motif for a lot of things.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on August 11, 2015, 10:20:57 AM
The lads from dakkadakka seem to be on top of things.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/1770/655944.page

Besides having amazing artwork and campaign maps, the next book seems to expand on fluff where Sigmar was leading the early tribes of the mortal realms against chaos. Also seems to show just how he lost his hammer.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on August 11, 2015, 10:21:59 AM
The lads from dakkadakka seem to be on top of things.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/1770/655944.page

Besides having amazing artwork and campaign maps, the next book seems to expand on fluff where Sigmar was leading the early tribes of the mortal realms against chaos. Also seems to show just how he lost his hammer.

http://www.games-workshop.com/en-NL/blog/blog.jsp

Also mostly in bigger lines here :)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on August 13, 2015, 07:46:29 PM
Right then, first, it appears that forge world have released their warscrolls for chaos dwarves.

Secondly,  I saw upon the Lustria site the rumor of law of war rules by GW that help balance the game for more competitive minds.
http://www.lustria-online.com/threads/rumour-gws-law-of-war.16698/

There is supposedly such ruleset up on Warseer but I don't know how legitimate it is so I refrained from posting it. Best to wait for the official update.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Dosiere on August 13, 2015, 09:23:19 PM
Got a look at the new chaos champion model, have to say it's the first model released for AoS so far that I think I would buy. 

I really don't think the law of war thing is legit.  It uses a lot of language and ideas inconsistent with what GW has been releasing.  It also doesn't work very well so maybe it is, I dunno.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on August 13, 2015, 09:59:50 PM
Right then, first, it appears that forge world have released their warscrolls for chaos dwarves.

Secondly,  I saw upon the Lustria site the rumor of law of war rules by GW that help balance the game for more competitive minds.
http://www.lustria-online.com/threads/rumour-gws-law-of-war.16698/

There is supposedly such ruleset up on Warseer but I don't know how legitimate it is so I refrained from posting it. Best to wait for the official update.

So did I a few days ago: http://warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php/topic,50826.msg959288.html#msg959288
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on August 13, 2015, 11:19:33 PM
Oh, sorry I haven't read that thread. :blush:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on August 14, 2015, 08:25:06 AM
Oh, sorry I haven't read that thread. :blush:

Hehe no problem :)

Anyway got the new Realmgate wars book, Quest for Ghal Maraz, will add some stuff from it soon of some things shown that might come.
Great read!
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on August 14, 2015, 08:33:23 AM
That's great! Can't wait to hear what's in it. :smile2:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Alexis on August 14, 2015, 10:55:58 AM
Oh, sorry I haven't read that thread. :blush:

Hehe no problem :)

Anyway got the new Realmgate wars book, Quest for Ghal Maraz, will add some stuff from it soon of some things shown that might come.
Great read!

Cheers! Any human information in it?
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on August 14, 2015, 12:18:57 PM
nothing yet, but beastmen as part of the chaos forces of Tzeentch and Nurgle
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Alexis on August 14, 2015, 02:23:14 PM
nothing yet, but beastmen as part of the chaos forces of Tzeentch and Nurgle

Damn it, why!? I just want to know what things look like GW! Nice to hear beastmen getting a nod. They are always a faction I fear are on the verge of being cut off.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Lord_Crom on August 14, 2015, 02:30:34 PM
Looking at some of the released images, it mentions the hosts of Sigmar's city (can't remember name) being unleashed. The hosts are all the Olde World races or descendants of the civilisations of the Age of Myth. In fact all the races are mentioned in fighting in parts of the Realm Gate Wars but other than that nothing else. Just a big tease really.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on August 14, 2015, 04:02:17 PM
I'm thinking we won't see the free people for a long time as GW has months worth of new releases of models and scenarios that would leave the free people model and fluff concepts hanging in the air. Their competitors (almost all of whom specialize in human models) wouldn't hesitate to take advantage of this and start ripping off their designs so they can sell cheaper soldiers and steal GW's customers. (Probably why we won't see Aelves for a long time either)

GW is like a Hippo in the river, it may have thick skin (it's secrecy policies that tick the fans off) but that's because the swarms of piranhas keep trying to take bites out of it.

Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on August 23, 2015, 08:11:23 AM
So this will be Sigmar's personal attachee?

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Looks to be bad ass! and seems to be about the size of Nagash
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Darknight on August 23, 2015, 11:20:08 AM
Sigmar needs to stop loaning his hammer to everyone; isn't that how we got here? Then again, maybe it's just a good excuse to play the Quest scenarios again ... "If the Celestant-Prime is killed, immediately go back and play the Quest games again to get the hammer back."
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on August 24, 2015, 03:41:16 AM
That's a shame, it really looked like Sigmar was going to wreck face on the battlefield again. I wonder why he decided to leave the fighting to his servant instead? I can only guess that he knew the struggle is long from over and the reforging of the Eternals is more important for the war effort.

No doubt the new model is going to be epic.

Thanks for the info, StealthKnightSteg. :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Darknight on August 24, 2015, 11:39:27 AM
The new model IS epic - I have seen pics on the FB group.

There is also a rumor the Celestant-Price is Karl-Franz ....
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Sig on August 24, 2015, 11:58:43 AM
They don't want you to be able to kill Sigmar most likely. Though who knows, you might see a model for him in a later campaign.

Edit: I saw the model. I can see what they were going for but they just didn't get there. He looks fat, the pose lets him down tremendously. The hammer isn't the centrepiece either, which it should be. I get the shape of the wings and whatnot, but they could have preserved that and still had a much better pose of the body.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on August 24, 2015, 12:17:19 PM
I can't imagine them doing a "Sigmar" figure, or for that matter a figure for any of the other deities.  Although this is GW.  If they did that, it would certainly confirm a "High" fantasy direction has been taken.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Darknight on August 24, 2015, 01:37:52 PM
Nagash? Tyrion?

At least some of the deities are the Incarnates.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on August 24, 2015, 03:09:33 PM
pictures from the fb group, also was the hammer Ghal Maraz ever a focal point, sculpt wise?

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Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Sig on August 24, 2015, 04:41:35 PM
Yeah just fat, and that lightning belt is gross. The silhouette of the model is a good concept, but the details and execution are poor.

The Hammer was not the focal point of previous minis, because they were characters with names and backgrounds - they were heroes. This figure just appears to be a creature fashioned simply to carry the hammer. It's the weapon of a god, the guy carrying it doesn't even have a face. Disappointing.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on August 24, 2015, 05:02:14 PM
There's a lightining bolt there as part fo the figure? Hmmm ... it is currently eluding my eyes.  And as for no face, it has the same face as all the rest of the Stormcast figures, yet that isn't surprising given the overall tone of the Stormcast figures.  Not much inspiration for me, yet that isn't surprising either, oh well.

Onward Olde World soldiers ... back to such a fantasy land I suppose.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Sig on August 24, 2015, 05:37:58 PM
The twin tails of the comet on his belt are fashioned as lightning bolts, hanging down. It works ok when they're shorter like on some of the other figures, but here they're way too long and look ridiculous.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on August 25, 2015, 01:38:43 AM
I actually like the bulky appearance. Armored warriors shouldn't look like silver-painted athletes. (IMO)

I would agree with the helmet robbing him of character but it at least makes him more intelligent than space marines whose commanders charge in without any head protection :icon_wink: (though a warrior priest head-swap might look nice)

All in all, I think it's a really nice model. It's probably way out of my price range though. :-P
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Captain Dob Van Dwi on August 25, 2015, 01:53:03 AM
I actually like the bulky appearance. Armored warriors shouldn't look like silver-painted athletes. (IMO)

I would agree with the helmet robbing him of character but it at least makes him more intelligent than space marines whose commanders charge in without any head protection :icon_wink: (though a warrior priest head-swap might look nice)

All in all, I think it's a really nice model. It's probably way out of my price range though. :-P

#1: I agree but he shouldn't look like a fat a!@ either. He needs some Greek muscle armour :P

#2: Still needs to look human-ish. I don't care if his white beard and pale face is seen. If anything this would me him look other worldly, which is knida the whole point.

#3: Needs work.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on August 25, 2015, 02:13:31 AM

#1: I agree but he shouldn't look like a fat a!@ either. He needs some Greek muscle armour :P

#2: Still needs to look human-ish. I don't care if his white beard and pale face is seen. If anything this would me him look other worldly, which is knida the whole point.

#3: Needs work.

1. Agreed, you can never go wrong with Greek-muscle armor. (Or at the very least, a nice cuirass)

2. That'd be a good design choice.

3. Lovely thing about this hobby, we can give it all the work it needs. :wink:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on August 25, 2015, 04:37:19 AM
Those are suppose to look like lightning bolts? :icon_eek:  And as comet tails, they fail as well. :icon_rolleyes:

Gosh, now it sticks out like a sore thumb, but only uglier.  I'm sorry, it is so hard for me to get behind these figures.  I'm sure someone will paint them up real well, but I'm not feeling an ounce of inspiration from those pictures. :icon_sad:

I'm not convinced that Greek armor, a "human" face, or the effort behind working with this figure are going to improve the situation.  Oh well.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on August 26, 2015, 06:43:59 PM
I'm a fan of most of the other stormcast models, but this one isn't really hitting the spot for me. I can also see what they were going for, but I'd also have liked the hammer to be a bit more central. That said, I've always preferred infantry and generally don't go for ANYTHING big. So I'm probably biased in that regard. It is nice to see the storm casts get their big center piece model.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Syn Ace on August 26, 2015, 07:53:01 PM
The other flying Stormcast guys are kind of fatties as well.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on August 31, 2015, 08:35:50 PM
So word seems to be out on the Prosecutor set, weapon options look like the 2h axe featured. Also a Knight Azyros and Knight Venator and a battletome for Stormcast. Also an upgrade sprue?

Quote
Via Scanner in spiky bits forum
New Releases this week:

Prosecutors box, three models- 46 €

Knight Azyros (clampack)- 33 €

Knight Venator (clampack) - 33 €

Stormcast Eternals Upgrade Sprues- 9 €

Battletome Stormcast Eternals (New Rules) - 46 €

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Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on September 01, 2015, 12:44:55 PM
There are two upgrade sprues/packs.   One for shields, and shoulder pads and other gribblies.   And one for ugrading to some for some kind of Kights.  I'm guessing that means it's a command sprue
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on September 01, 2015, 02:54:02 PM
There are two upgrade sprues/packs.   One for shields, and shoulder pads and other gribblies.   And one for ugrading to some for some kind of Kights.  I'm guessing that means it's a command sprue

I heard it were 2 different iconagraphy upgrade packs but contents same (ie shields, pauldrons and other stuff)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gneisenau on September 01, 2015, 08:21:32 PM
Those wings are a great achievement in the casting of plastic miniatures.

On the lantern, however, they look extremely silly.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on September 01, 2015, 08:31:00 PM
Are they soem sort of mechanical wings?
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on September 01, 2015, 09:30:04 PM
Those are very promising releases, thanks for the update! :smile2:

I might get that battletome as it looks to have lots of AoS fluff that go could a long way in scenarios and army designs. (And can join my collection of armybooks that I don't have armies for  :-P)

The upgrade sprues are definitely on my watch list,  conversion opportunities aplenty.

Those wings are a great achievement in the casting of plastic miniatures.

On the lantern, however, they look extremely silly.

Haha, didn't see that until you mentioned it. :lol:

Although...if you cut those off they could make good knight helmet add-ons.

Are they soem sort of mechanical wings?

Looks like it, the artwork I've seen seems to suggest that they use heaven's magic to stay in flight.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on September 01, 2015, 09:40:03 PM
I think it's just a bad paint job on those "wings" on the lantern.. they should be painted as emanating light, then it would make sense
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: knightofthelance on September 02, 2015, 10:36:52 PM
Those wings are a great achievement in the casting of plastic miniatures.

On the lantern, however, they look extremely silly.

What's the point of being able to fly if you have to carry your lantern? Much better if it can just fly along next to you.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on September 03, 2015, 04:22:43 AM
Careful with words like that. Next thing you'll know, there's a 50 dollar kit for 6 flying lanterns that boost all free people within 6 inches...
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on September 03, 2015, 06:33:59 PM
next week will see the last 2 missing warscrolls for Stormcast, the Heraldor and Vexilor (musician and banner dude). So just wondering if the Lord-Relictor and Lord-Celestant on Dracoth will see an individual model sold, or if they keep those exclusive to the starterbox
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on September 03, 2015, 08:27:02 PM
Those sound good, curious to see what their musician is. Maybe a call-back to the old rock and roll guitar marine days. :icon_wink:

Found a blog of the upgrade sprues.
http://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/160

Loving the shields and winged Stormcasts with bows.

If I do make a Stormcast army someday, I might just use all of those crested helmets for them. The 2.0 version of the imperial feathers. :-)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on September 03, 2015, 09:07:37 PM
The Venator is ace. 3 attacks, 2+ to hit, 3+ to wound and once per game can do special arrow instead of the 3 attacks. but does D3+3 damage and on Hero or Monster even D6+3 damage
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on September 04, 2015, 09:53:26 AM
The musician and standard/totem bearer are sort of featured in the main age of Sigmar book already, on the page detailing the structure of the Stormcasts.  I would prefer more of a flag style banner than something like the Lord Relictor's pole thing though.  I'm sure in teh artwork there is a proper banner, sort of like a bigger version of the thing trailing from Vandus Hammerhand;s hammer (Lord Celestant on Dracoth).

I would be surprised if we see another Lord-Celestand on Dracoth miniature, but I would hope we might get another Lord-Relictor, and the Stormcasts definitely need some kind of Wizard, not just to cast spells, but to be able to unbind spells.  And also benefit from the scenery bonuses like the occulum thingy
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on September 08, 2015, 08:47:31 PM
copied from facebook

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Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on September 08, 2015, 08:50:04 PM
Well at least the banner dude has lightning bolts that look like lightning bolts.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on September 08, 2015, 09:21:41 PM
Heraldor? Vexillor? Good grief, who comes up with these terms? Probably the same guy who came up with Skeletor.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on September 09, 2015, 12:39:22 AM
Heraldor? Vexillor? Good grief, who comes up with these terms? Probably the same guy who came up with Skeletor.

Vexillollogy is the study of flags. 

I've noticed he can carry one of two totems, but if it's a clampack mini, it would be hard to fit an alternative on the sprue.  I wonder if like the recent Khorne exalted if the alternative build isn't available for the model.  Guess we will find out later in the week.

Also, the herald seems to by trying to play his Vuvuzela with his eye.  Probably because the metal mask means he can't blow it.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Champildhir on September 09, 2015, 02:32:35 AM
Also, the herald seems to by trying to play his Vuvuzela with his eye.  Probably because the metal mask means he can't blow it.

I'd say it's just the perspective and that it points to the mouth. Bad photographer? :? A flexible mask? :ph34r:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on September 09, 2015, 02:33:32 AM
Are you sure it's covered?  The mouth looks visible to me. :?

I like the knight-heraldor. That's a cool ability he has to make units think twice about terrain cover.

If I get the chance I probably will buy that one, their paladin keyword helps Bretonnian infantry.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Champildhir on September 09, 2015, 02:57:48 AM
Are you sure it's covered?  The mouth looks visible to me. :?

Yes yes! It's visible, what I mean is that if you continue the line from the horn, it will probably go to the mouth, but it looks just on the eye due to the perspective, I think. Like if he/she (who knows) was about to blow, no?

I don't like any of these two single models, but love the prosecutors since they came out in the starter set (I think I bought that set just for them...  :icon_mrgreen:).

So, probably during September they will close the Khorne side, a battletome will come out for them, and we will start seeing other races new models from October?
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: knightofthelance on September 09, 2015, 04:08:28 AM
It's got to be time for a 40k month doesn't it? Those guys have to be feeling neglected by now.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on September 09, 2015, 01:35:37 PM
Indeed, I've been hearing some grumbling on their part. I imagine we'll see a 40k interlude before the next AoS releases.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on September 09, 2015, 02:06:31 PM
Rumours are pointing to a week or maybe two of AoS, then Tau, then perhaps back to AoS, or maybe on to 30k.

That particular photo of the Knight-Heraldor looks better than the previous one, which clearly had the trumpet to his eye, and the lips were gold like the rest of him.  The photo on the warscroll looks to be a slightly different paint job, so maybe the pose is better done, and the paint job.

Still, after the World Cup in 2010, I wanted to stick every trumpet/vuvuzela into the nearest eye to shut the damn things up.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on September 09, 2015, 08:10:40 PM
I like trumpet man really. Not overly fond of how big the trumpet itself is, but the pose looks pretty cool. Really like the way he has his sword, and I can see lots of conversion ideas for him.

I heard the same schedule wise. Another week or two of AoS, some 40K for a bit, then probably a mix of 40K and Aos for a bit longer.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on September 09, 2015, 08:48:23 PM
Vexillollogy is the study of flags. 

Tell me something I do not know. [And I did notice the spelling, but I assume it is just a typo.]
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on September 09, 2015, 09:01:59 PM
I think labors of Hercules would be a easier task than that. :-P
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on September 17, 2015, 10:06:08 AM
So next up seems to be the Khorne Bloodbound Battletome with 2 hero's Skullgrinder and Slaughterpriest and some repacks. next week will be the last release for Khorne Bloodbound: (new?) Bloodthirster is rumored
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on September 17, 2015, 10:16:42 AM
Yeah, I heard named Bloodthirster as Skarbrand.   I suspect it's the new Bloodthirster that was released for End Times Archaon with an extra sprue to make a Skarbrand specific build, rather than an entirely new model.  But we'll see
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on September 17, 2015, 10:28:00 AM
Also the new Battle Boards is still in the up and go somewhere to be expected.. but still unsure..
And what will be the next thing AoS will be offering?
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on September 17, 2015, 12:05:41 PM
I think the new Realm of Battle board will be the last thing we see for AoS for a few weeks, back to Tau for 40k.  I've heard for most of the year, of a forthcoming 30k game.  There have been sprue pics, so it's when not if.  Most rumours said November. 

Also heard that there will be a new Bloodbowl.   But that rumour crops up this time every year, and I think it's bollocks.  I'll believe that if I ever see any evidence to back it up.  Much as I would love a new Bloodbowl, can't see it happening.

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Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Syn Ace on September 17, 2015, 09:50:11 PM
They're is a new Blood Bowl, but as far as I've heard it's digital only. Blood Bowl 2. Haven't heard anything about new table top, but that would be cool.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: shavixmir on September 17, 2015, 10:06:31 PM
Vexillollogy is the study of flags. 

Tell me something I do not know.
Tum podem exulit horridulum is Latin. According to everybody but you.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on September 17, 2015, 10:27:52 PM
It is perhaps Latin according to everyone who does not know Latin grammar and declension.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on September 18, 2015, 09:16:38 AM
They're is a new Blood Bowl, but as far as I've heard it's digital only. Blood Bowl 2. Haven't heard anything about new table top, but that would be cool.

Yeah, but this rumour said October, and the video game is out next week.  And the original rumour indicated that it meant tabletop, as it's no secret that the video game is coming out.

Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on September 19, 2015, 06:48:14 PM
So some news about the Undead!
There are 3-4 audio files coming telling the tail of a Stormhost in the realm of death running from a khorne warband, finding a Von Carstein!
So where is this going then!

So undead next faction to gain some shape?
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gneisenau on September 19, 2015, 06:58:51 PM
I would appreciate that. About time we get some proper order.

(http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lt82r9eJMo1qzb1rlo1_500.png)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on September 19, 2015, 08:09:25 PM
That's really interesting,  thanks for the info! :smile2:

My guess is they're going to focus on the undead and Skaven,  maybe some Duardin as well.

I'm looking forward to seeing what they do with the undead.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on September 19, 2015, 08:29:22 PM
So say one more warscroll coming for the Bloodthirster then Khorne Bloodbound has 17 now 18 then. Stormcast now has 17. So looks like the amount of Warscrolls isn't one on one comparable per faction.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on September 19, 2015, 09:59:41 PM
Just like the old warhammer armies then. :-P
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on September 21, 2015, 04:03:43 PM
So Skarbrand it is, and he looks MEAN!

(https://scontent-fra3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/12043166_10153776975255312_7262013860095422177_n.jpg?oh=a7396ca2912f12ef3f84a758063679f5&oe=569F3BC1)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on September 21, 2015, 09:52:33 PM
 :ph34r: :ph34r: :ph34r:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on September 22, 2015, 09:11:34 AM
Wow, they actually went for a completely new kit, and not an upgrade sprue for the existing fairly new Bloodthirster kit. 

And, new plastic flesh hounds as well?
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on September 22, 2015, 10:09:07 AM
Wow, they actually went for a completely new kit, and not an upgrade sprue for the existing fairly new Bloodthirster kit. 

And, new plastic flesh hounds as well?

I guess this was it for the first stream of Khorne dudes, maybe on a suplement release schedule


Here are the supposed rules for Skarbrand (BOLS):

Quote
The basics:
Move 8, Save 4+, 14 Wounds
Two axes that Hit on 4+, Wound on 3+

via Albrecht de Nuln 9-21-2015

    Ok, here are his rules for AoS

    In each of your hero phases look, check and see how much damage he has. If he was not able to attack in any of the combat phases last round, then he is always Incandescent -really really mad-

    There are 6 abilities to choose from and these last until the next hero phase.

    0-3 wounds he is angry- gain 1 ability
    4-6 wounds he is furious- gain 2 abilities
    7-9 wounds he is seething- gain 3 abilities
    10-12 wounds he is enraged- gain 4 abilities
    13 wounds he is incandescent- gain 5 abilities

    Abilities
    Roar: pick a unit and roll one die for every level of rage. on a 4+ inflicts mortal wounds
    re-roll charge distance
    re-roll all failed to hit rolls for slaughter -one axe
    re-roll all failed to hit rolls for carnage- the other axe
    re-roll all failed wound rolls for slaughter
    re-roll the dice to see if he inflicts total carnage -special rule -which increases based on wound
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on September 22, 2015, 10:56:55 AM
With all those muscles, perhaps he could wield those axes alittle bit more meanly than the figure has him doing.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on September 22, 2015, 07:16:36 PM
I like it for the most part. (like pretty much all the recent models.) Don't like the beard thing he has going on. Doesn't really fit the blood thirster look, and I'm pretty sure I've seen a good dozen khorne dude rocking the same look. Apparently Khorne jumps on trends faster then facebook.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on September 26, 2015, 06:57:18 PM
So the introduction to the rules of Skarbrand in the WD87 says he will be part of the Daemons of Khorne faction.. so we will see yet another faction for Chaos? And will this mean also for Tzeentch, Nurgle a daemon faction?
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on September 26, 2015, 08:27:17 PM
Hmm, very possible.  If we've only been seeing the warriors for chaos then it stands to reason that the daemons are next.

Also, do you think the Stormcasts are completed? I was expecting some valkyries and six-legged celestial cavalry to go along with the Norse mythology theme.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on September 27, 2015, 08:18:10 AM
Well if Skarbrand isn't part of the khorne bloodbound, but part of daemons of khorne then it would actually mean the bloodbound have 17 warscrolls and stormcast also. So might mean that races/factions are being fleshed out for 17 scrolls. I suspect that anything new added will be happening then in a 2nd release round.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on September 30, 2015, 06:15:39 PM
Looks like a repack bundle?
http://www.games-workshop.com/en-NL/The-Cohort-of-Khorne
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on September 30, 2015, 07:49:06 PM
No saving on buying the contents separately, so probably just a typical web bundle.   You might get round bases, and plain white boxes, rather than new AoS packages.   

Isn't a big box saving some money like the Sylvaneth box

http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Forest-Spirit-Warhost
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on September 30, 2015, 07:57:39 PM
because of the round bases.. all the separate stuff still shows square bases, and skarbrand was labelled khorne daemon already, so this might be a prelude on some daemon repacks
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on October 01, 2015, 02:33:27 PM
A fair bit of stuff has been re-packaged, especially for chaos, from looking in my local GW store
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on October 03, 2015, 01:32:49 AM
This is going back a bit but are people really getting a norse mythology vibe from the Stormcasts in particular? I can see the influence on the world in general with all the realms etc, but not really from the Stormcast themselves.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Sig on October 03, 2015, 02:09:18 AM
Sigmar/Thor, Stormcast/Valhalla. That's about as far as it goes.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on October 03, 2015, 03:19:11 AM
It kind of looks like a Norse/Roman/Greek mash-up really. Also with some dark soul undertones to my thinking.

Sigmar/ Thor, Odin, Lord Gwyn. Stormcast/Valhalla, Hoplites,  Centurions (makes sense as they are supposed to lead the charge), Ornstein and Smough.

Nagash/ Hades (ruler of underworld and not a bad guy)

[Edit] Also, as many are pointing out from following the fluff, Sigmar is also showing Zeus's tyrant tendencies. What with legions of hate filled warriors that are reborn only to serve his will and cannot disobey.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on October 03, 2015, 01:56:25 PM
Hoplites? :icon_eek: :icon_lol:

Reminds me of ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyp9fh-u4w8
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on October 10, 2015, 08:37:09 PM
Looks like Tomb kings are up for an appearance in AoS soon.

http://z4.invisionfree.com/Khemri/index.php?showtopic=15966

I'm really happy for them, thought they were getting absorbed into a general undead army.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on October 10, 2015, 08:58:06 PM
Instead of getting absorbed into a general undead game...
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on October 10, 2015, 09:10:12 PM
Well with that audiobook finding a von Carstein that was something to be expected.
Also next week (from already leaked WD pictures) a novel hardback 272 pages at 20 Euro, or is it a new senario book underpriced?

(https://scontent-ams2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/t31.0-8/12113520_10207587894997488_547386353908091395_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on October 10, 2015, 09:17:35 PM
So will there be Tmb Kings or won't there be :icon_question:

Hamlet's sililoquy comes to mind again. :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on October 11, 2015, 06:25:40 PM
Well with that audiobook finding a von Carstein that was something to be expected.
Also next week (from already leaked WD pictures) a novel hardback 272 pages at 20 Euro, or is it a new senario book underpriced?

(https://scontent-ams2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/t31.0-8/12113520_10207587894997488_547386353908091395_o.jpg)

Named authors.  Authors that write for Black Library.  Price of a novel.  I would guess novel rather than scenario or campaign book.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on October 11, 2015, 06:26:59 PM
So will there be Tmb Kings or won't there be :icon_question:

Hamlet's sililoquy comes to mind again. :icon_lol:

Tomb king, or not Tomb king, that is the question.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on October 11, 2015, 06:53:45 PM
Well, that would be a sillyloqui...
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on October 11, 2015, 07:53:42 PM
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous Tomb Kings
Or to take arms against a sea of Tomb Kings and by opposing end them.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gneisenau on October 11, 2015, 08:15:58 PM
outrageous Tomb Kings

(http://www.warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=169401&d=1366707209)


(disclaimer: not my work)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on October 11, 2015, 08:30:49 PM
outrageous Tomb Kings

(http://www.warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=169401&d=1366707209)


(disclaimer: not my work)

.... almost as bad as the little pony brets.. almost  :ph34r:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on October 11, 2015, 09:21:52 PM
Good lord, don't remind me of those abominations. I can't believe he won a tourney with them. Ugh. :eusa_wall:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on October 11, 2015, 10:29:18 PM
That looks like Necrons to me, not Tomb Kings.  And I now add the word "vaguely" looks like Necrons. :icon_wink: :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Syn Ace on October 11, 2015, 10:49:47 PM
Back in the 90s, when my friend joined the Army Reservers and was sent to basic training, that is the exact same paint scheme his girlfriend painted his Space Marine army while he was away -- she dubbed them the Daisies of Death. I'll never forget his Dreadnaught sporting a bejewled cocktail umberella instead of a banner pole.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on October 13, 2015, 02:51:09 PM
Lot's of stuff sold out / no longer available from the Lizardmen / Seraphon pages
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on October 13, 2015, 03:46:23 PM
Difficult to say what that means.  So far, a lot of the stuff that has happened to it's been for re-packaging.   But it could be a cull ahead of a range change.  Either way, I'd suggest it means we can expect Seraphon to be features in the next round of releases.   

Given the ending to the last book, and this weeks WD, which features an AoS timeline summary (From the starter book through the Quest for Ghal-Maraz), then I expect the next campaign to the War for the All-points, but still part of the Realmgate Wars.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on October 13, 2015, 07:55:18 PM
Seraphon?   :icon_eek:  What are those?
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on October 13, 2015, 07:58:40 PM
NAoSpeak for Lizardmen...
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gneisenau on October 13, 2015, 09:05:29 PM
Seriously?

Well, I guess we have to be happy that they aren't called "lizardors".
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on October 13, 2015, 09:47:38 PM
It is a rIPoff.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on October 13, 2015, 10:21:59 PM
Well, a new name suits them as they basically are new creatures. The novel they were last talked about in showed that, while similar in appearance,  they are supposedly made of light energy that explodes when they are slain. The energy obliterated the daemons that killed them. The current Lizardmen warscrolls even have them listed under celestial daemons.

It hasn't been revealed what's happened to them but my guess is the Old Ones reprogramed their servants to go from world cultivators to chaos exterminators.

As for the absence of models on the site, my bets are on rebasing. We probably won't see new armies until next year.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on October 13, 2015, 10:30:50 PM
Well, a new name suits them as they basically are new creatures. The novel they were last talked about in showed that, while similar in appearance,  they are supposedly made of light energy that explodes when they are slain. year.

As I said, it is a rIPoff.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on October 13, 2015, 10:40:52 PM
Haha, okay, fair enough.  :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on October 13, 2015, 11:21:56 PM
Oh my, more crud. :icon_sad:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on October 17, 2015, 06:28:43 AM
Here's a interesting tidbit, a fellow reading the knight of corruption e-short said he noticed some figures in it that were very much like warrior priests and the flagellants of old.

Closer steps to revealing our faction or just a shout-out to the Stormcast pictures that contained those soldiers?
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on October 17, 2015, 08:58:26 AM
who knows.. but for now it looks like we have to wait till 2016 for anything about the free people.

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2015/10/gw-schedule-the-next-90-days.html

is suggesting another chaos vs order thing in december, but with the factions Tzeentch, Aelfs and/or Duardin. Though that seems odd with all the story's going on about undead.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on October 17, 2015, 11:26:23 AM
The 40k/30k stuff is probably not far off, since plenty of other rumours back it up,  but their AoS predictions are pure speculation, or rather a guess.  Could be right, or completely off.  I still think it's likely to be Seraphon next.

Sent from my thingamajig via wadyamacallit

Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on October 17, 2015, 11:28:16 AM
Here's a interesting tidbit, a fellow reading the knight of corruption e-short said he noticed some figures in it that were very much like warrior priests and the flagellants of old.

Closer steps to revealing our faction or just a shout-out to the Stormcast pictures that contained those soldiers?

Nothing in the new fluff features anything they don't have miniatures for, from what I've read.  And not so much a shout out, more a tie in with the pictures we've seen.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on October 24, 2015, 02:58:17 PM
Hint for next weeks WD: "Help from Azyr" and all Lizardmen are off the shelf on the GW site bar the Warscrolls.
Interesting to see what will come back!
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Sharkbelly on October 26, 2015, 03:35:35 AM
Sounds like many folks think it will be just a repackaging of lizardmen stuff. Fingers crossed for something new!
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on October 26, 2015, 10:45:27 PM
Lizzie to Seraphon repacks and a new Battletome coming as new pre-orders.. Long list
http://natfka.blogspot.com.co/2015/10/this-weeks-pre-orders-from-gw-its-big.html?m=1

Quote
WHITE DWARF WEEKLY 93 (ENGLISH) 4
WARHAMMER: VISIONS 22 (ENGLISH) 12
TAU EMPIRE TIDEWALL GUNRIG Plastic Box 60
TAU EMPIRE TIDEWALL SHIELDLINE Plastic Box 55
TAU EMPIRE TIDEWALL DRONEPORT Plastic Box 50
BATTLETOME: SERAPHON (ENGLISH) Book (HB) 49.5
BATTLETOME: SERAPHON (FRENCH) Book (HB) 49.5
SERAPHON SAURUS WARRIORS Plastic Box 38
SERAPHON SKINKS Plastic Box 35
SERAPHON BASTILADON Plastic Box 60
SERAPHON STEGADON Plastic Box 58
SERAPHON CARNOSAUR Plastic Box 85
SERAPHON SAURUS KNIGHTS Plastic Box 35
SERAPHON SAURUS GUARD Plastic Box 55
SERAPHON TERRADON RIDERS Plastic Box 60
SKINK STARPRIEST Plastic Clam 20
SERAPHON THUNDERBEAST HOST Plastic Box 210
GAUNTS GHOSTS:GUNS OF TANITH (N/AMERICA) Novel 14
REALMGATE WARS: SANDS OF BLOOD (AUDIOBK) Audio Book 17.5
CHAMELEON SKINKS Finecast Clam 25 - DIRECT ONLY!
SERAPHON SAURUS ETERNITY WARDEN Finecast Clam 20 - DIRECT ONLY!
SAURUS SUNBLOOD Finecast Clam 25 - DIRECT ONLY!
SKINK PRIEST WITH FEATHERED CLOAK Finecast Clam 16 - DIRECT ONLY!
SAURUS SCAR VETERAN ON COLD ONE Finecast Clam 17 - DIRECT ONLY!
KROXIGOR Finecast Box 52 - DIRECT ONLY!
LORD KROAK Finecast Box 50 - DIRECT ONLY!
SERAPHON RAZORDON Finecast Box 30 - DIRECT ONLY!
SERAPHON SALAMANDER Finecast Box 30 - DIRECT ONLY!
SAURUS STARGLYPH BEARER Finecast Box 22 - DIRECT ONLY!
SLANN STARMASTER Finecast Box 50 - DIRECT ONLY!
SKINK STARSEER Finecast Box 50 - DIRECT ONLY!
BATTLETOME: SERAPHON (LTD ED.) Book (HB) 140 - DIRECT ONLY!

I wonder if they are getting a few new releases also. If the amount of Stormcast and Khorne Bloodbound is anything to go on the definitely no as these already surpasses that amount.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on October 27, 2015, 10:04:03 AM
I don't think there is anything new in that list  No new troops, and no new characters, since there are no new plastic clampacks.
Will be interesting to see what the background changes are from Lizardmen to Seraphons.  Or whether it evens mentions that at all.

Interesting to note that Lord Kroak is still in that list.

So, looks like the only thing new is the book, and I doubt much will change on the warscrolls, since there isn't anything new, but I suppose we could get a surprise in the books, to come after. Although I can't really see that happening with 30k on pre-order next week.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on October 27, 2015, 05:51:06 PM
The Seraphon are incoming

http://Lustria-online.com/threads/units-sold-out.16892/page-7#post-142865

Oh, I can't wait to see wanderers/DuardIn/free people come in like this. :smile2:

Also, the upcoming undead book about the Tomb kings is getting closer as well.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on October 27, 2015, 07:35:27 PM
I feel rather cold-blooded about the one and rather undead about the other...
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on October 30, 2015, 07:17:42 PM
Lizardmen PDF file also not available anymore on GW site for coming release
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on November 06, 2015, 04:57:45 PM
Over on Warseer:-

(http://www.warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=222176&d=1446823094)
(http://www.warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=222179&d=1446824808)
(http://www.warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=222178&d=1446824805)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on November 06, 2015, 05:44:23 PM
wow! new Archeon model? Looking at the 3 heads (Khorne, Tzeentch and Nurgle) that should be bout right then.. wondering where Slaanesh is then..

Edit: I guess so!

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2015/11/breaking-enormous-new-archaon-model.html
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gneisenau on November 06, 2015, 10:36:01 PM
Slaanesh is the fourth head.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on November 06, 2015, 10:49:02 PM
So that's the End Times mount rumor. Impressive!

Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Lord_Crom on November 07, 2015, 05:41:55 PM
I really like the new model...not enough to turn to chaos. I wonder if he can still be fielded on the horse.

Also I was optimistic with lizard repack that nothing really got shelved and thought same might be true for humans but then there are two armies needing to be squeezed into one so perhaps I should just stop kidding myself.

Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on November 08, 2015, 09:41:13 PM
Why do the two armies need to become one?

If a faction like the dwarves can find themselves split into two factions then why does everyone think the other factions are getting simplified. The Sylvaneths have no wood elves with them as well.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on November 09, 2015, 03:19:43 AM
Indeed if anything factions are getting broken up into smaller more themed factions. Wood elves AND tree spirits. Dwarfs AND berserker dwarfs.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on November 10, 2015, 10:49:17 AM
Rumored to come: New campaign book with Tzeentch release and Battletome!

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2015/11/gw-latest-tzeentch-is-coming.html

For next week: bigger paint bottles and other stuff (tape measure, bags etc)

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2015/11/new-white-dwarf-94-pics-spotted.html
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on November 10, 2015, 12:23:29 PM
Double the volume for shades (washes) from what I've read.  Will be useful for Nuln Oil and Agrax Earthshade, which I use a lot of.

Very expensive tape measure, hope it's a bit more robust than their basic one.    and a sort of backpack which can hold a crusade case

Taking the Tzeentch Rumours with a pinch of salt.  It is from Hastings, but people over on Warseer do have a tendency to go overboard and assume a rumour means something else.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on November 10, 2015, 12:54:09 PM
well Hastings has been right on all/most of the new releases, so I tend to follow his news closely over on Warseer.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Sig on November 10, 2015, 01:56:30 PM
Looks like he doesn't have the Eye any more, but he shouldn't have the Slayer of Kings either, since Sigmar obliterated it.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Sharkbelly on November 16, 2015, 10:31:00 PM
Double the volume for shades (washes) from what I've read.  Will be useful for Nuln Oil and Agrax Earthshade, which I use a lot of.

No joke. I've gone through gallons of flesh wash/chestnut ink/obeys flesh, etc.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Ursa Doom on November 21, 2015, 10:45:12 AM
Can't say I like the new Archaon model. It looks overdesigned and lacks that sense of nobility the old one had.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on November 23, 2015, 07:07:03 PM
Besides the new Archeon model 2 sets to complement your Stormcasts or Khorne coming up on pre-order saturday

http://waaaghgaming.de/age-sigmar-archaon-everchosen-der-grosse-champion-des-chaos-schlaegt-zurueck/
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on November 23, 2015, 07:50:18 PM
Stormcast box (160 Euro) saves 42 Euro (2 sets of Judicators, 1 set of Paladins, 1 set of Prosecutors, 1 castellant = 202Euro)
Khorne box (160 Euro) saves 42 Euro (Skarr Bloodwrath, 1 set of bloodreavers (20), set of blood warrors (10), 1 set of Skullreapers (5), 1/2 set of Skullcrushers (3 instead of 6) = 202Euro)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Lord_Crom on November 30, 2015, 02:57:24 PM
Just read Archaon's rules. He would be a tough (aka impossible) fight for my little Empire army as I have only 1 cannon and no other artillery (I should be ashamed to call myself Empire).

Imagine it would be awful for a Chaos player to spend £100 on the model, spend ages painting him and expect the win only to have him blasted by 3 cannons.

With that thought in mind is he weaker than the 8th edition version of him. Didn't he used to have a silly ward save?
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on November 30, 2015, 05:52:15 PM
Haven't read the new rules very well yet, so can't really say.. nor do I know the old rules very well, though it seems some have been kept the same.

In other news:
Read a rumor that January is getting Duardin, both factions: Steamhead Duardin (pressumably most repacks of current range) and Fyreslayers (Slayers with new additions)

Also saw on FB a post on a new Battletome for "The Everchosen" Archaon and new knights (Varanguard) atleast. As Archaon is now housed on Varanspire. in next WD.
(https://scontent-fra3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlt1/v/t1.0-9/11206934_10153643030730630_1291434961184465811_n.jpg?oh=f93408297f1ec61fd628e12589896582&oe=56F88F95)
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Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on November 30, 2015, 08:42:31 PM
Good lord those look epic! I might give those a go with a Bretonnian conversion. :icon_wink:

I'm feeling a bit sorry for chsos players. Between this, the last chaos releases for AoS and 40k and the total war pre-order I'm betting their wallets are a bit empty. :-D
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Syn Ace on November 30, 2015, 09:26:51 PM
I like Archaon and the new figs.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Acadian on December 03, 2015, 09:19:33 PM
Looking at the prices of all miniatures,
i think a lot of people wallets are empty :)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Victor on December 04, 2015, 03:38:21 PM
Looking at the prices of all miniatures,
i think a lot of people wallets are empty :)

Looking at the miniatures, my wallet remains completely full.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on December 05, 2015, 11:14:55 PM
So I was reading through the WD today and saw a mention about the warscrolls in Everchosen.. 2 we know Archaon and the Varanguard.
But there seems to be also something called: Gaunt Summoners other then this some battalion scrolls and battleplans in the battletome
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on December 06, 2015, 11:01:39 AM
Gaunt Summoners is to do with the new Tzeentch sorcerer on disc, which is likely next weeks release.

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Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Victor on December 06, 2015, 01:24:54 PM
I only just saw the price tag for these new Chaos Knights and I'm amazed. GW's pricing policy has reached a new sphere of ridiculous. How can anyone justify to pay so much for so little?

Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Sharkbelly on December 07, 2015, 02:33:17 AM
How can anyone justify paying so much for plastic toys? Yet we do...
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on December 07, 2015, 06:48:35 AM
Haha, indeed! There's just something about a painted army that really can't be matched. :happy:

This poll in the dakkadakka site shows that AoS has gotten more than a few wallets moth-ridden. :icon_lol:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/60/666859.page

Interestingly, another poll on favorite warhammer fantasy factions actually has the Stormcast in the lead with vampires close behind. I voted for Bretonnia, myself.

Also, the leaked fire slayer sprues have the dwarf players very excited.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: patsy02 on December 07, 2015, 11:39:55 AM
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Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on December 07, 2015, 12:43:13 PM
This poll in the dakkadakka site shows that AoS has gotten more than a few wallets moth-ridden. :icon_lol:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/60/666859.page

While "more than a few" is correct, it may give a bit the wrong impression. True, 25% spent more than 250$, but 56% spent nothing at all.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Champildhir on December 07, 2015, 01:27:49 PM
While "more than a few" is correct, it may give a bit the wrong impression. True, 25% spent more than 250$, but 56% spent nothing at all.

Which also gives a wrong and biased impression about the game: out of that 56% I am sure that there are people who do like the game and are just waiting for their favourite faction to come out to get their wallet empty. I am for one waiting for the Aelfs (and also bought the starter set and just bought the new Archaon). That % is actually quite in the direction that the game is working out pretty well for GW: just 5 months, and half of the potential gamers have invested money on it. Give it a year, with a more complete version of the game out, and that % will have increased significantly.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on December 07, 2015, 01:53:08 PM
Indeed, given enough time and effort put into it by GW and AoS may see some very positive results.

The main problem with that poll is that it allowed anyone, even those who don't play AoS and just wanted to be negative, to anwser. The upside of AoS is that it does allow those with tight purse strings to enjoy it with not needing to purchase numerous rulebooks.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: patsy02 on December 07, 2015, 05:06:07 PM
It's a young game, but still, 56% of users in a warhammer forum actually buying warhammer isn't terribly impressive.

Edit: On the other hand, maybe it's to be expected when you don't necessarily have to buy new models to play the game.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on December 07, 2015, 06:47:53 PM
It's that I started with Stormcast, if not I would still have been waiting on the free people releases, or maybe expanded on Seraphon already.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on December 07, 2015, 06:54:14 PM
Wonder what we would get with the same poll on this forum?   Although, given the track record since last summer it's better not to run one.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on December 09, 2015, 07:29:46 AM
Yeah, I don't think AoS polls will go very well with the old guard around.

Anyway, the new Tzeentch model is out.

http://eefl.freeforums.net/thread/98/new-archaon-model?page=3

I was wondering when this fiend would show up after seeing his picture several months ago.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: S.O.F on December 10, 2015, 03:03:18 AM
Yeah, I don't think AoS polls will go very well with the old guard around.

That would suggest there is some sort of new guard, but as posting and traffic has been down since AoS on pretty much all the Warhammer related places I visit (W-E, Bugman's, Ogre Stronghold, TWF, and at least the random rumor check on Warseer) I don't think, at least in the form of internet forum posters, they actually exist. I mean I believe people when they say that locally that AoS has worked but from my Warhammer forum going standpoint I can only see adverse effects. Has anyone started up a pure AoS board, I've not discovered it with google?
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on December 10, 2015, 06:11:31 AM
Haha, sorry if that sounded mean spirited, I meant no offense by that.

I find alot of AoS activities, projects and conversations in the general warhammer forums and dakkadakka.

I'm looking for AoS forums as well, I'll certainly let you know when I find one. :icon_wink:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on December 10, 2015, 09:11:30 AM
I'm on a few forums, lurker or fairly inactive on most,   and the two most active places are the subforum here, and groups on Facebook.   Neither of which are as active as when pre end times, WFB was going on.  Even 40k forums just don't feel as active. 

Several forums and groups that tried to talk about AoS, had such antagonism, people left.

That's the worst thing about the game, the way people have behaved towards each other for liking it or not.

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Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Franz Volker on December 11, 2015, 07:49:01 AM
This poll in the dakkadakka site shows that AoS has gotten more than a few wallets moth-ridden. :icon_lol:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/60/666859.page

While "more than a few" is correct, it may give a bit the wrong impression. True, 25% spent more than 250$, but 56% spent nothing at all.

Ok, so this got me curious enough to check it out.

56% spent nothing at all, that means they gave nobody money, so that's a bad sign for AoS in any interpretation, I guess.

The rest spent some, but if you read the replies, a good chunk of them claim they bought what they bought used. Does that count towards the success of AoS? I mean they didn't give GW any of their money.

Some say they spent some money, but then say they only bought paints, tools and so on. What's that got to do with AoS?

I bought un ungor kit and a few other things since AoS came out, but I bought them to use in WFRP 2nd Edition. Does that mean I supported AoS? I would've bought more stuff if AoS hadn't diminished my enthusiasm for the old setting. I voted 0, but some people in the replies voted something else, saying they bought bretonnians or something like that which doesn't necessarily mean AoS.

AoS positions itself to take the place of WFHB, taking the merit for some of the latter's sales, which is why I think that poll shows a prettier picture than what's real.

Also, I tried looking at the google search graph linked below for warhammer fantasy vs age of sigmar. I'm not exactly sure how to use it, but if I did it right, search interest is actually lower right now for AoS (although by a very small margin) than it is for WFHB (which is reasonable to assume it would be lower due to the AoS hit).

https://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=warhammer%20fantasy%2C%20age%20of%20sigmar&cmpt=q&tz=Etc%2FGMT-2 (https://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=warhammer%20fantasy%2C%20age%20of%20sigmar&cmpt=q&tz=Etc%2FGMT-2)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on December 16, 2015, 10:18:15 AM
Well I'm really looking forward to 2016 with the coming Duardin / Fyreslayers  and Tzeentch releases and what more to come. Hopefully more disclosure on the Aelfs and Free People.

Read some rumor about discontuning Beastmen and Brettonia, but I don't believe that as Beastmen is already in a scenario book as part of the chaos armies. They might get incorporated as a subfaction of sorts like Skaven Pestilens.
Brettonia I might be discontinued as it was, same with Empire as both these will probably be something new with in Free People
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: DariusZero on December 16, 2015, 12:02:11 PM
This poll in the dakkadakka site shows that AoS has gotten more than a few wallets moth-ridden. :icon_lol:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/60/666859.page

While "more than a few" is correct, it may give a bit the wrong impression. True, 25% spent more than 250$, but 56% spent nothing at all.

Ok, so this got me curious enough to check it out.

56% spent nothing at all, that means they gave nobody money, so that's a bad sign for AoS in any interpretation, I guess.

The rest spent some, but if you read the replies, a good chunk of them claim they bought what they bought used. Does that count towards the success of AoS? I mean they didn't give GW any of their money.

Some say they spent some money, but then say they only bought paints, tools and so on. What's that got to do with AoS?

I bought un ungor kit and a few other things since AoS came out, but I bought them to use in WFRP 2nd Edition. Does that mean I supported AoS? I would've bought more stuff if AoS hadn't diminished my enthusiasm for the old setting. I voted 0, but some people in the replies voted something else, saying they bought bretonnians or something like that which doesn't necessarily mean AoS.

AoS positions itself to take the place of WFHB, taking the merit for some of the latter's sales, which is why I think that poll shows a prettier picture than what's real.

Also, I tried looking at the google search graph linked below for warhammer fantasy vs age of sigmar. I'm not exactly sure how to use it, but if I did it right, search interest is actually lower right now for AoS (although by a very small margin) than it is for WFHB (which is reasonable to assume it would be lower due to the AoS hit).

https://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=warhammer%20fantasy%2C%20age%20of%20sigmar&cmpt=q&tz=Etc%2FGMT-2 (https://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=warhammer%20fantasy%2C%20age%20of%20sigmar&cmpt=q&tz=Etc%2FGMT-2)


well I corrected your term to warhammer fantasy battle and got more realistic results, which show that aos got it's maximum interest in july and now in december almost zero.
If compare regions we see that aos is succesfull in GB but is a failure in USA, which can be deciphered also through sales of starter sets on ebay where US ss are offered cheaper with free shipping and continental ones the other way around.

https://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=%2Fm%2F03mf9x%2C%20age%20of%20sigmar&date=1%2F2015%2012m&cmpt=q&tz=Etc%2FGMT-1 (https://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=%2Fm%2F03mf9x%2C%20age%20of%20sigmar&date=1%2F2015%2012m&cmpt=q&tz=Etc%2FGMT-1)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on December 16, 2015, 01:30:19 PM
Haha, indeed! There's just something about a painted army that really can't be matched. :happy:

This poll in the dakkadakka site shows that AoS has gotten more than a few wallets moth-ridden. :icon_lol:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/60/666859.page
An interesting poll ...  here are the results as of this morning ...

Quote
How much have you spent on AoS?

0   57% [ 231 ]
$1-100   11% [ 45 ]
$101-150   5% [ 19 ]
$151-250   5% [ 21 ]
$251-500   9% [ 38 ]
$501-$1000   8% [ 34 ]
Greater than $1000   5% [ 20 ]
Total Votes : 408

20 folks have spent over $1000 which means a minimum of $20,000.  34 at hypothethically $750 means 25.5k.  38 at hypothetically $350 means 13.3k.   The numbers tail off in the next two catagories, but combined it is 40 and hypothetically at $150 means $6,000.  All total about $65k from 132 of a community of 40K players, and if we add in the 45 spending $100 or less, giving them credit for the full amount, that's only 177 players spending maybe $70k.  And 231 not spending a dime.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on December 16, 2015, 01:35:53 PM
Yeah, I don't think AoS polls will go very well with the old guard around.

Anyway, the new Tzeentch model is out.

http://eefl.freeforums.net/thread/98/new-archaon-model?page=3

I was wondering when this fiend would show up after seeing his picture several months ago.
Some how it reminds me of one of the 40K Chaos Space Marine Chapters, probably the thing on it's head is doing that.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on December 30, 2015, 11:22:25 AM
Just read this on warseer:

Quote from: Matthias Thulmann;7586152
@tcpwayne: Changes coming in 2016 to "fix" AoS....

When asked where this information is from he replies.

@tcpwayne: GW

I'm taking this with an ocean of salt but changes could be coming in 2016?

Maybe army composition or expanded rules?

Dunno what to make of it if anything tbh. Have to just wait and see I guess.

I wonder what that could mean... if true
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Finlay on December 31, 2015, 01:53:28 PM
I hope aos is serving as a good wake up call tk GW they need to focus on gaming a bit more and not just models.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on January 01, 2016, 04:37:31 AM
An ocean of salt indeed.

As it is the only thing that AoS needs is a add-on point system or some other form of force restriction.

I can't really see any other "fix" they could implement.

(P.s. sorry for not posting lately, I've been very busy and the holidays are hectic.)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on January 02, 2016, 08:38:32 PM
next weeks pre-orders rumor *cough* as if that's a rumor if you have first hands on the new WD..

Quote from: Archibald_TK;7587266
New releases:

Fyreslayers Hearthguard (5 miniatures) - 33€ 25£ 40$
Slayers with shorter beards with what looks like shooting weapons, greataxes or some sort of flail halberd.

Fyreslayer Vulkite Berserkers (10 miniatures) - 45€ 35£ 60$
Slayers with dual axes, or a bladed shield coupled with an axe or pickaxe.

Fyreslayer Auric Runemaster (1 model) 23€ 18£ 30$
This is not the one we saw on the sprue, that one carries some sort of brazero staff and he... he... he has no mustache!

SURPRISE! The WD shows the models that have yet to be released everywhere. I find the new giant salamander to be absolutely gorgeous. IMO in term of design they take models like the slaughterbrute, break them in half, throw the parts into an incinerator and bury the ashes 3 feet under.

For those wondering, Fyreslayers use the Ur-Gold to create runes over their own body. I have no time to actually read the WD but I'll come back later if there is anything interesting. I think that army design is a success.

Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on January 02, 2016, 10:09:57 PM
Urge..to become...Duardin player...rising!
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on January 02, 2016, 10:40:09 PM
Urge..to become...Duardin player...rising!

haha! I'm reasonably ok with this. I can resist the urge to become a Duardin player. But I sport 4 armies now.. Empire still waiting to see what happens to our Free People before picking it up for AoS. Stormcast... need that expansion box!! ouch 160,- euro.. Khorne Bloodbound want to atleast keep it a reasonable force with some choice options.. again some nice boxes.. then there is my starting force of Seraphon... Oh I really want those boxes.. and now my urge to get Tau Empire got a swirl again also with the Start your army box... WHY DIDN'T I WIN THE LOTERY damnit  :eusa_wall:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on January 02, 2016, 10:57:04 PM
Haha, I bet your Christmas list was full. :icon_lol:

I need that Stormcast expansion as well. The Malignant starter collection is looking good for Bretonnian conversions and I'm also waiting for the free people.

Though if the wanderer Aelves arrive before the free people then that's where my money is going to disappear to.

(So many models, so little time to paint them all. :cry:)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on January 03, 2016, 12:07:51 PM
some more information about the dwarfs

Quote from: Archibald_TK;7587548
I suppose I can screenshot my post?

A few more nuggets of info from the WD:
- Fyreslayers are born from the fight between Grimnir and Vulcatrix.
- Fyreslayers believe that in Ur-Gold resides the essence of Grimnir, their shattered God.
- Ur-Gold is magical. There is a funny rule when you play a Runemaster where your opponent chooses one of his units as carrying some gold, and thanks to it said unit can reroll all 1 to wound. But better not let the Runemaster get close enough and realize you are carrying the gold or the Fyreslayers will go all chop chop on you.
- When they insert Ur-Gold runes in their flesh, their God's energy starts flowing through their vein. This lead to things like being surrounded by flames, striking harder, more resilient skin (I suppose that's why they have 5+ save).

This is how each of their chapters is organized:
- Chapter mast.. no wait what am I saying? I mean Auric Runefather.
- Below that is the Auric Runemaster (the one in the WD)
- Auric Runesmiters
- Grimwrath Berzerkers
- Auric Runesons
- Hearthguard Berzerkers and Auric Hearthguard (the ones in the WD)
- Battlesmiths
- Vulkite Berzerkers (the ones in the WD)

PS- They're not actually called Chapters as you already guessed, but I don't know how to translate the real name in English.

Sorry but there are quite frankly too many things in the WD for me to read everything.

Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Syphon on January 04, 2016, 06:02:57 PM
What the flying fuck are these:
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Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on January 04, 2016, 08:25:09 PM
ah yes the new fyreslayers (sub?) faction duardin (new dwarfs in AoS) and behind them some fire salamanders!
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on January 04, 2016, 10:24:25 PM
I actually rather like the salamanders, although I'd like a better look at the riders/platforms before making a final decision. I'm not sure I like the helmet crest look the mohawks have now, but otherwise I like the slayers as well. I'm excited to see better pictures.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Sharkbelly on January 05, 2016, 10:42:26 AM
There are some pics floating around of the new dwarves with fireglaives or some such flamethrower/axe combo. Pretty cool looking imho.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Syphon on January 05, 2016, 01:05:50 PM
Are you guys kidding me? Those lizards, especially the one on the right, look more like creatures from Khorne's zoo!
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on January 05, 2016, 03:14:55 PM
I think I would kit bash these with more regular dwarfs, I'm not keen on the bare legs look.   Top half is fine.   The lizard things I'd like to see with a close up/ different paint job.  Those colours make you think Chaos/Khorne. 

"I'd like to see it with a better paint job" is something I've said a lot about thw WD photos lately.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gneisenau on January 05, 2016, 10:57:43 PM
I would like a closer look at the salamanders.

The dwarves are terrible.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Victor on January 06, 2016, 02:57:04 PM
Apart from the helm design, these new miniatures look just awful in my opinion. Strange anatomy, strange poses, bad overall design with soulless and expressionless faces. What a surprise! The only reason why I'm still checking for AoS news on warseer, is my curiosity about the awfulness of the next release. GW's miniatures remind me more and more of the miniatures of Mantic Games, except they cost 3 times as much.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Syphon on January 06, 2016, 04:26:43 PM
Apart from the helm design, these new miniatures look just awful in my opinion. Strange anatomy, strange poses, bad overall design with soulless and expressionless faces. What a surprise! The only reason why I'm still checking for AoS news on warseer, is my curiosity about the awfulness of the next release. GW's miniatures remind me more and more of the miniatures of Mantic Games, except they cost 3 times as much.

In the sense that Mantic used to be a cheaper alternative for GW, but that now GW is a more expensive alternative for Mantic?
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Victor on January 06, 2016, 05:43:24 PM
In the sense that they both produce poorly designed miniatures, except GW has a downwards trend and Mantic may have an upwards trend. While GW is still ahead (which is not saying much), they will eventually produce equally bad miniatures.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Syphon on January 07, 2016, 11:34:30 AM
In the sense that they both produce poorly designed miniatures, except GW has a downwards trend and Mantic may have an upwards trend. While GW is still ahead (which is not saying much), they will eventually produce equally bad miniatures.

Eventually? Those stormcast look like people didn't know the difference between spuss muhreenz and the eldar any longer and just meshed them together.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Ursa Doom on January 07, 2016, 09:06:13 PM
In the sense that they both produce poorly designed miniatures, except GW has a downwards trend and Mantic may have an upwards trend. While GW is still ahead (which is not saying much), they will eventually produce equally bad miniatures.

I will say that Mantic at least doesn't claim to produce some of the best miniatures on the market.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on January 08, 2016, 06:56:26 AM
I'm really liking the look of these lads.

I'm in agreement with Oxycuter that a better paint job could be needed.

The salamanders are pretty awesome(reminds me of monster hunter) but a little too big for my tastes. I'd probably add more leg armor to some of the slayers as well to avoid the naked look. That look worked for the slayers of old but the new ones need to be more serious, imo.

I definitely need to get my hands on these as well.

http://m.imgur.com/a/as5gv

Can't wait for the fluff book for these guys. :smile2:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on January 08, 2016, 08:28:12 AM
I like most of the models I have seen pictures of! Just one set I saw a picture of that really looked awefull. Do want to see more of the salamanders
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Champildhir on January 08, 2016, 02:38:19 PM
Same that SKS, I do love and even bought many of the new stuff: I got for Christmas Archaon, the Varanguard and most of the new non-Chaos scenery to add to my AoS starter box. I just try not to reply to comments from clear haters.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on January 08, 2016, 06:56:27 PM
Same that SKS, I do love and even bought many of the new stuff: I got for Christmas Archaon, the Varanguard and most of the new non-Chaos scenery to add to my AoS starter box. I just try not to reply to comments from clear haters.

well this subforum isn't commented on by haters bar the occasional post. So I find it here quite good although the amount of people is a bit lacking still well the re-pliers anyway as we still have a lot of views.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on January 08, 2016, 07:54:09 PM
I'm still a fan although I'll throw my voice in that a better paint job would help. I'm not hugely interested in the salamanders carrying palanquins like that, but that could be easily rectified. I don't like the gold colored tattooes either, I find they don't show up very well. The fluff behind it isn't to bad. Runic tattoos!
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on January 08, 2016, 08:52:23 PM
Looking at the images Baron Klatz put up is interesting. I like the runemasterexcept for the head of his staff. Looks to demonic to me, but I like his braids. The names especially look like a merger with chaos dwarfs. Like the Zharrgrim section of the lodge.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Syn Ace on January 08, 2016, 10:02:07 PM
I would say that the quality of their models is still head and shoulders above a lot of the competition with fantastic detail. Not a fan of all of them, but one thing I've discovered is that seeing them in person can definitely sway my opinion. Some of the GW paint jobs are so meh. At first glance, these new dwarf figs don't necessarily appeal to me, but I'll have to see them in person. The salamanders look interesting.

 I just saw Archaon on his beastie in person and it was a huge model and the guy had put a fantastic paint job on it. It was quite impressive.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gneisenau on January 08, 2016, 10:10:47 PM
I'm really liking the look of these lads.

(...)

Thanks! The Runemaster looks interesting.

However, they missed an excellent opportunity for free outrage by not making the Hearthguard Berserkers female.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on January 08, 2016, 11:06:57 PM
Oh, you want female outrage in fantasy then go to 9th age's fluff theory section. They recently just got past a massive flame war about that and the amount of freedom for females in their new fantasy. The whole thing was about only the suppression of their freedom would make the setting feel "realistic". :icon_rolleyes:

Anyway,  I wonder how they would do female slayers anyway. Tons of braided hair in place of beards to cover up the front?

Despite the rage that would've been cool. :-D
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gneisenau on January 08, 2016, 11:15:40 PM
The whole thing was about only the suppression of their freedom would make the setting feel "realistic". :icon_rolleyes:

Oh dear.

As for the slayer issue, just model them naked - and the male slayers too, of course. Although on second thought, fighting naked is a bit of an issue for men, because you keep tripping.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Ursa Doom on January 09, 2016, 04:42:15 AM
The more I look at the new Slayers the more I like them. They are probably the first line of AoS minis that I actually don't dislike at some level. The Salamanders are also cool.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Dosiere on January 09, 2016, 02:16:43 PM
Decent, with some models I dislike and some I do like.  It seems to be getting most of the hate but I actually like the mustache-less character model the most!  More interesting than Stormcast at least.  Still, there is something about most of GWs new stuff though that just doesn't do it for me, hard to explain.  I don't know if it's the CAD designs or the paint jobs, maybe both. 

Still holding out to see what they do with regular humans. 
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Ursa Doom on January 09, 2016, 07:29:11 PM
I like that they don't look entierly overdesigned and has kind of a humble look to them.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on January 11, 2016, 08:08:39 PM
Next up will be the Battletome, Magmadroth (the big salamander thingy) with options for riders: Runefather, Runeson and Runesmiter and do the other 2 on foot! and a novel about the Fyreslayers

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/12507261_10153725761825630_7703197895225336443_n.jpg?oh=5810e89a08174d0903adbfd51909e302&oe=57030ED1&__gda__=1464459950_99561e336687bff18cc5e9187c15b61a)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/9562_10153725761850630_5025964946980920419_n.jpg?oh=4d09102998e6fb4f1961f42d100a36f6&oe=573E7AB5&__gda__=1459641416_bfe44bdef9300b4521437c63e8f2bbf5)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/12509765_10153725761820630_2620364040287464357_n.jpg?oh=d9dbfedcbe1b2e7ba8fdd33d900fe15c&oe=57118B31&__gda__=1464038222_84c6ad4db81a1b79c68dc383491f65b8)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/12417932_10153725761895630_1064369359465508067_n.jpg?oh=6b6a28b23e30d8fea50b23b04e69a402&oe=57071CC9&__gda__=1460848576_4b153bfd0f5188fe9bb6d18737c7f66f)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Calisson on January 11, 2016, 09:08:26 PM
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-EvrMbAh6wSc/VpJaWOktLbI/AAAAAAAAm3Y/QUEBU2elesU/w649-h553-no/FYRESLAYERS.jpg)
(courtesy of Aicanor who usually posts on Ulthuan.net).
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Ursa Doom on January 12, 2016, 07:27:57 PM
I liked the salamander thing a whole lot more before I saw that the legs were spread like a bulldog.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on January 12, 2016, 08:26:30 PM
It doesn't look like it would be to hard to reposition them though. I'm not a fan of the platform for the rider on top. For some reason it makes me think of a hobby horse strapped ontop of a lizard. I still like the rest of the model though.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Ursa Doom on January 12, 2016, 09:08:00 PM
Yeah, it has its flaws and I don't see myself trying to correct them. So I probably wont get the model.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on January 12, 2016, 10:35:03 PM
My new years resolution is to finish some of my unpainted models before buying more. That means I'm unlikely to buy anything new for years whether I like it or not.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: DariusZero on January 13, 2016, 08:59:46 AM
Next up will be the Battletome, Magmadroth (the big salamander thingy) with options for riders: Runefather, Runeson and Runesmiter and do the other 2 on foot! and a novel about the Fyreslayers

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/12507261_10153725761825630_7703197895225336443_n.jpg?oh=5810e89a08174d0903adbfd51909e302&oe=57030ED1&__gda__=1464459950_99561e336687bff18cc5e9187c15b61a)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/9562_10153725761850630_5025964946980920419_n.jpg?oh=4d09102998e6fb4f1961f42d100a36f6&oe=573E7AB5&__gda__=1459641416_bfe44bdef9300b4521437c63e8f2bbf5)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/12509765_10153725761820630_2620364040287464357_n.jpg?oh=d9dbfedcbe1b2e7ba8fdd33d900fe15c&oe=57118B31&__gda__=1464038222_84c6ad4db81a1b79c68dc383491f65b8)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/12417932_10153725761895630_1064369359465508067_n.jpg?oh=6b6a28b23e30d8fea50b23b04e69a402&oe=57071CC9&__gda__=1460848576_4b153bfd0f5188fe9bb6d18737c7f66f)

Salamanders are not bad. Remove the stupid looking midget that stands on it's back and you could make a decent looking dragon, if you attach some wings. But the price will probably be too ridiculous to bother.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on January 13, 2016, 10:36:11 AM
Salamanders are not bad. Remove the stupid looking midget that stands on it's back and you could make a decent looking dragon, if you attach some wings. But the price will probably be too ridiculous to bother.

If you look at the 2nd picture it states the price: 85 Euro for the Magmadroth with 1 rider and the other 2 on foot
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: DariusZero on January 13, 2016, 11:30:27 AM
I didn't pay attention, thanx. As I suspected, not over the top, but still a bit too much, if you only look for a conversion opportunity. Still, I guess some1 without money concern might try it. The sculpting and the anatomy look just right for an exotic looking dragon. If GW was smart( which we all know they aren't) they could do it themselves.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Dosiere on January 13, 2016, 07:25:43 PM
Am I the only one who thinks it looks weird that the dwarf is sitting on a rather large and heavy stone/metal throne thing?  Would have looked better had they actually been riding the thing!  Better, I would have made it the magmathing smaller, and sold it as an elite cavalry option like the DGKs! Dwarf dragon cavalry ftw.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Syn Ace on January 14, 2016, 08:39:58 PM
Kind of a mini-howdah. I imagine he'd need to be standing to use that big ol' pole arm.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Ursa Doom on January 15, 2016, 07:42:30 AM
It would really look better without a rider at all.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Syphon on January 15, 2016, 02:49:13 PM
Is nobody else seeing the Khornate connection in the second lizard?!
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on January 15, 2016, 07:21:16 PM
I see a stronger chaos influence on the runesmith guy on foot with the staff. The top of the staff is pretty much a demon head.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Syphon on January 17, 2016, 05:53:47 PM
But that can be explained away as iconography. I mean, Húrin had a dragon helm, but that didn't mean he was aligned with dragons.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on January 17, 2016, 08:14:43 PM
I think it just as more to do with them combine some of the chaos dwarf influences with the normal dwarfs.

Although I guess you could use the same argument with gargoyles. Churches and buildings are covered in them, could make sense that dwarfs would use it for similar reasons.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on January 17, 2016, 11:52:12 PM
Water spouts? 
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on January 18, 2016, 12:29:57 PM
just on warseer:

Quote from: Archibald_TK;7595745
Next releases:

- Bloodthirster, Bloodcrushers (now per 6), Bloodletters & Bloodthrone are back in new packaging.

- Battlesmith (1 model) 23€ - £18 - $30 - AU$ 1.000.000 and a liver

- Grimwrath Berserker (1 model) 23€ - £18 - $30 - AU$ 1.000.000 and a kidney

- Chaos Alliance book or whatever it'll be called in English (304 pages, yup, no typo here, softcover) 26€ £20 $33
Ah, it's the old softcover Codex pricing! 158 Warscrolls for the 21 following factions:
- Everchosen
- Slaves to Darkness
- Khorne Bloodbound
- Daemons of Khorne
- Tzeentch Arcanists
- Daemons of Tzeentch
- Nurgle Rotbringer
- Daemons of Nurgle
- Hosts of Slaanesh
- Daemons of Chaos
- Brayherds
- Warherds
- Monsters of Chaos
- Chaos Gargants
- Thunderscorn
- Master Clan
- Clan Verminus
- Skryre
- Moulder
- Pestilens
- Eshin

Holy crap if this is true!
And what will be the Chaos Gargants and Thunderscorn? And somehow I guess the "Deamons of chaos" beneath the hosts of slaanesh might be more something about the deamons of slaanesh as seeing the other subfactions (khorne, nurgle, tzeentch) are divided like that
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on January 18, 2016, 01:37:42 PM
Gargant is the new GW TM name for Giant, so we can guess what that is.  No idea what the Thunderscorn would be though.  Edit:  Oh, Thunderscorn could be Dragon Ogres
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on January 18, 2016, 01:39:46 PM
Also, if that is a book just for all the chaos warscrolls, then what are the chances that there won't be much new stuff for Chaos, at least in AoS for a while?
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on January 18, 2016, 01:51:52 PM
Also, if that is a book just for all the chaos warscrolls, then what are the chances that there won't be much new stuff for Chaos, at least in AoS for a while?

hmm indeed.. any new stuff should already be in that book then. Otherwise we won't see much if any new stuff for chaos.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on January 18, 2016, 03:30:15 PM
There may be spoilers for a couple of new units, in which case, I'd expect them in the weeks after.  They should know by now what is coming soon, so selling this kind of book knowing there is stuff coming doesn't seem right, however you never know with GW
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on January 18, 2016, 05:09:21 PM
On another notes, some of the recent artwork in WD for the new slayers, and AoS artwork so far is pretty strict to showing actual miniatures, there looks to be a new style Orruk wyvern.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on January 21, 2016, 08:07:50 AM
in What's new Today featuring the Battletome Fyreslayers. I noticed this

(http://www.games-workshop.com/resources//blogs/2016/01/21/SRJSRJHSFJGFSKMFSKJKTTE4MKNASY/3xl.jpg)

I really love some of those color combinations used!
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Sharkbelly on January 21, 2016, 11:26:19 PM
And now there are rumors circulating of a new Battletome for the undead as well as a possible Hierotitan model. Interesting stuff!
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on January 22, 2016, 07:33:06 AM
I know.. All these books aren't good for my wallet  :unsure:
As a collector of the books I want them all.. and that is even without the novels.. which I actually also want to add to the collection for AoS.. let alone to have money left for actual models  :dry:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on January 22, 2016, 10:15:49 AM
And now there are rumors circulating of a new Battletome for the undead as well as a possible Hierotitan model. Interesting stuff!

My gut feeling is that this is speculation rather than rumour.  Eventually, I do agree there is a good chance of us getting Grand Alliance battletomes for Order, Death and Destruction, but not for a while.  I do feel they've finished with Chaos for a while.   I think Order will be last. 

The Heirotitan rumours come from artwork showing big statues, but those look so much like bigger version of the Morghast Harbingers that I suspect that's what it actually is, and the artwork has them out of scale maybe. 

The Wyverns with Savage Orruk riders are new though, and I do expect to see those withn the next couple of months
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on January 22, 2016, 09:47:30 PM
selection menu on GW site for factions/armies changed to represent the grand alliance book of chaos army names
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on January 22, 2016, 10:52:24 PM
Yeah, I saw that, but that doesn't necessarily mean Grand Alliance battletomes for Order, Death or Destruction any time soon

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Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on January 22, 2016, 10:57:04 PM
daemons of khorne repacks also up on NZ site
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on January 23, 2016, 05:28:31 PM
Last chance to buy section features some chaos, get them while they are still up for grabs!

http://www.games-workshop.com/en-NL/Warhammer?N=102316+4294965308&Nu=product.repositoryId&qty=12&sorting=rec&view=table&categoryId=cat440002a-flat
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Champildhir on January 26, 2016, 10:40:37 AM
New pics of the new Realmgate Wars: Balance of Power book from BoLS:

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2016/01/108788.html

Edit:

And chaos repacks as well as a new chaos battalion. Can't figure how much would save when compare with buying independently since the new chaos knights box now brings 10 instead of 5 models and I expect a new price (probably cheaper and 2Xprevious boxes?)

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2016/01/breaking-aos-balance-of-power-campaign-pics-2.html
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on January 26, 2016, 10:44:09 AM
Also heard that Undead is within the Grand Alliance thing working around three factions under each Mortarch
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on January 26, 2016, 12:36:45 PM
Also heard that Undead is within the Grand Alliance thing working around three factions under each Mortarch

If true, I suspect one of those factions would be Malignents.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on February 09, 2016, 08:57:17 AM
Next saturday:
Grand Alliance Death

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2016/02/aos-breaking-grand-alliance-death-spotted.html

8 subfactions:
Deathlords
Soulblight
Deathmages
Deadwalkers
Deathrattle legions
Flesh-eater Courts
Beasts of the Grave
spectral Nighthaunts

1 battalion scroll.

TK seems to get the short end of the stick here
Unless in a very improbable fashion they get an Order entry.. nah..
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on February 09, 2016, 10:46:50 AM
I think someone worked out that there are going to be fewer warscrolls in that back than there are in the combined TK and VC free compendium.

And I would think all the Egyptian looking stuff is likely to get the boot.   We've not really seen any of it in the artwork.   Think the End times stuff is how undead will look going forward.   When the Chaos Grand Alliance book came out, they added loads of stuff to the Last Chance to buy section.   Betting they will do the same here.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on February 09, 2016, 10:50:42 AM
I think someone worked out that there are going to be fewer warscrolls in that back than there are in the combined TK and VC free compendium.

And I would think all the Egyptian looking stuff is likely to get the boot.   We've not really seen any of it in the artwork.   Think the End times stuff is how undead will look going forward.   When the Chaos Grand Alliance book came out, they added loads of stuff to the Last Chance to buy section.   Betting they will do the same here.

Yeah I'll be watching that section!

Though I really liked the look and the style of the TK..
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Syn Ace on February 09, 2016, 10:10:05 PM
Me too. The War Sphinx, Necro Sphinx, the Sepulchral Stalkers, Necropolis Knights, Ushabti are awesome looking figs-- I always wanted to have TK army.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on February 11, 2016, 01:41:31 PM
just saw an email from GW coming by on FB confirming the discontinuation of Tomb Kings

models will be up in last chance to buy section soon (probably this Saturday)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gneisenau on February 11, 2016, 09:27:35 PM
That's a shame.

Thanks for the info, SKS - I'll have to consider what I need.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: undivided.capital on February 13, 2016, 12:55:22 AM
Could you post the link to the email or just the quote istelf? Personally I'm shocked! I thought Tomb Kings were next for a revamp with them being featured this week in WD and with the new Death book coming out.
Also GW hasn't seemed to cut out any faction thus far. Even beast men survived.. I guess it's obvious that Brets are being phased out.. but they aren't doing it like what you are talking about tomb kings like.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Sharkbelly on February 13, 2016, 01:04:52 AM
It looks like the whole tomb kings range is now up in "last chance to buy".
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on February 13, 2016, 01:33:29 AM
There's a discussion about it on dakkadakka with that GW email in there as well. (Just scroll down a bit)

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/1350/672248.page

It's a shame to see their line go but some people are putting up interesting interpretations of what this may mean.

The continued AoS tomb king section on the GW site along with a TK AoS novel supposedly still in the mix make me think we might see something new for them in the future. Out with the old and in with the new.

Just my thoughts, though.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on February 13, 2016, 01:56:42 AM
And TK now up in last chance to buy section
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on February 13, 2016, 04:19:23 PM
Hmm, the GW email did say this was to make room for their new products.

Do you think this means we'll be seeing a new AoS army soon?

Also, I find it a bit funny that the undead alliance just focuses on Nagash's army and nothing else. Underwhelming as that is, it does fit Nagash's personality.  :-P
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on February 15, 2016, 12:21:46 AM
I don't think we'll see new Death stuff for a while.   I think the Grand Alliance books mean those factions are likely to stay as they are for a while.

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Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on February 15, 2016, 07:24:05 AM
I agree! Atleast a year.

I wonder now what will be next. (Besides the obvious repacks for Undead)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Lord_Crom on February 15, 2016, 09:37:32 AM
Just my opinion, I have no "insider" knowledge or anything. Tomb King last chance move makes me feel certain that my poor state troop based Empire army is for the chop. Flaggies, Warrior Priests, Hurricanium and probably wizards will be safe based on the celestial keyword.

Sorry if this is old ground, I've kind of held out hope that only a few models would disappear but think the free people will be more religious barbarians now. Will keep the state troop regiment I've built since start of AoS and keep it fighting regardless :)

Brets will be dead for sure!
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on February 15, 2016, 10:21:20 AM
You may well be right.   I suspect any of the historic real world stuff will wander off.   

There is a new e-book featuring mankind in the Realm of Beasts, considering getting it, as it might well give us a clue as to what the Free Peoples will be like

http://www.blacklibrary.com/new-titles/new-qu-re/righteous-blood-ebook.html
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on February 15, 2016, 10:41:39 AM
You may well be right.   I suspect any of the historic real world stuff will wander off.   

There is a new e-book featuring mankind in the Realm of Beasts, considering getting it, as it might well give us a clue as to what the Free Peoples will be like

http://www.blacklibrary.com/new-titles/new-qu-re/righteous-blood-ebook.html

Would like to get that (complete subscription for the 7 stories (of which the first one is free)) but as far as I know they only accept credit card payments still.. And I don't have one nor do I intend to get one.. If only they would inherit the payment options of GW itself..
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on February 15, 2016, 11:54:19 AM
The last series of ebooks in a series ended up getting a hardback printed copy.   That may well happen again
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Lord_Crom on February 15, 2016, 01:27:24 PM
Just looking at the first few pages of Balance of Power. Steg it appears your specific Stormcast get beat up in a place called Beryllius. Not really a spoil as just one of those single paragraphs at the front of the book. Just thought I would mention it but no doubt you already have the book by now.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on February 15, 2016, 01:41:37 PM
Just looking at the first few pages of Balance of Power. Steg it appears your specific Stormcast get beat up in a place called Beryllius. Not really a spoil as just one of those single paragraphs at the front of the book. Just thought I would mention it but no doubt you already have the book by now.

I wish  :icon_confused:
money is an issue at the moment as we had to do a down payment on the holiday. I won't get much until halfway march again.
But you got me very intrigued in what that is about!
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Lord_Crom on February 15, 2016, 02:17:19 PM
Well having got the last two, I would say this one actually appears worth it. Just looking at the battleplans they are interesting as are the place specific rules.

There are worse things to spend money on than holidays  :icon_biggrin:

The book isn't going anywhere and I'll avoid mentioning anything more about the details.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on February 15, 2016, 08:01:06 PM
A lot of battleplan and Time of War rules in Balance of Power.   Which is a good thing.   Scenarios I think really add to the game. I wouldn't want to go back to a plain old battle.    Even games of 8th or earlier,  I'd roll for scenario, or use the ones from End Times.

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Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Lord_Crom on February 16, 2016, 01:39:45 PM
agree with you Oxycutor.

I have the starter book and all three campaign books so plan to make my own document that only has the scenarios and Time of War stuff.

I know the app can do it but don't really want to rebuy the stuff and not fond of the app anyway. Anyone have Chaos Dreadhold?

I have recently got a papercraft 28mm scale castle kit and wondering if the scenarios in there were good.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on February 16, 2016, 02:39:47 PM
That's the only book I don't have at the moment.   I really wish  that if you bought a physical copy of a book, then you could unlock all it's contents in the app.   Each of the battletomes (apart from the Grand Alliances) have battleplans as well.  I should think are around 40 altogether.

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Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on February 16, 2016, 10:57:23 PM
Just looking at the first few pages of Balance of Power. Steg it appears your specific Stormcast get beat up in a place called Beryllius. Not really a spoil as just one of those single paragraphs at the front of the book. Just thought I would mention it but no doubt you already have the book by now.

I wish  :icon_confused:
money is an issue at the moment as we had to do a down payment on the holiday. I won't get much until halfway march again.
But you got me very intrigued in what that is about!

Curse you Lord-Crom... now I have bought the book for which I wanted to wait another month for more financial stability.. Oh well.. now that I do have it I might as well enjoy it :)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: red shift on February 17, 2016, 04:54:11 PM
Sad Panda over on dakkadakka (who has a good rumour record) has let slip that there will be a new Age of Sigmar starter set in the summer. Not sure of content but I'm going to guess aelfs
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on February 17, 2016, 08:38:42 PM
Sad Panda over on dakkadakka (who has a good rumour record) has let slip that there will be a new Age of Sigmar starter set in the summer. Not sure of content but I'm going to guess aelfs


Not quite,   Sad Panda said there would be a stand alone game, set in the Age of Sigmar.   The presumption, as with Execution Force and Betrayal at Calth, and the rumoured  Deathwatch game coming soon, is that the miniatures will be usable in normal Age of Sigmar games, and will be probably better value than buying stuff separately.   Not a new starter box, specifically, but I can sort of see why it might be thought of as one
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Sharkbelly on February 17, 2016, 10:31:14 PM
I wonder if it will be similar to Battler for Vedros for 40K?
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on February 17, 2016, 11:05:35 PM
No, Battle for Vedros isn't just a one off box game.  That probably won't be available via GW stores or site.  That is very much aimed at toy stores for kids to play a scaled down 40k.  And is reusing old 40k molds from Black Reach or earlier, and will be cheap, build,  paint, play in a box.  There is already a battleforvedros.com  you check out.   I expect the Deathwatch, or AoS stand-alone game to be some kind of boardgames using miniatures, like Exec Force, BaC or Space Hulk.  Although the Specialist Games studio is still being set up, and they've now started work on Blood Bowl, I think these were developed by the main GW studio, since the lead times for development would precede the Specialist Games announcement.   But they may be branded Specialist Games, in the same way they said BaC was the first for the studio, when it clearly couldn't have been.

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Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on February 19, 2016, 10:59:41 AM
Seen some pics posted the Age of Sigmar Facebook group.

Featuring what looks like humans/Empire in the artwork from the Grand Alliance: Death book

Since there isn't a direct image file link, I'm not sure how to preview FB pics.

*Edit, screw it can't even create a link to the group that works.     And thinking about it, I wonder if it might be old Artwork re-used from 8th.  let me check first before getting my hopes up

**Edit.  Yep it's from the VC Army Book for 8th.   So, still no clue as to what mankind will be like in the Age of Sigmar.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on February 20, 2016, 10:39:33 PM
Haha, I've seen several false leads come from facebook as people mistake 8th artwork for AoS. :lol:

The only leaks I follow are on dakkadakka and what the deviantart artists are allowed to share.

http://nefelyr.deviantart.com/art/Fyreslayers-588441407

http://catherine-oc.deviantart.com/art/Age-of-Sigmar-Realmgate-Wars-Portraits-574551182

On a sidenote, I like that 1d4chan just updated their AoS page with artwork from the grand alliance books.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on February 21, 2016, 12:45:29 AM
Haha, I've seen several false leads come from facebook as people mistake 8th artwork for AoS. :lol:

The only leaks I follow are on dakkadakka and what the deviantart artists are allowed to share.

http://nefelyr.deviantart.com/art/Fyreslayers-588441407

http://catherine-oc.deviantart.com/art/Age-of-Sigmar-Realmgate-Wars-Portraits-574551182

On a sidenote, I like that 1d4chan just updated their AoS page with artwork from the grand alliance books.

Well now that Warseer is up and running again, I'm looking at them also, besides checking out and filter all the crap from Bells of Lost Souls.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on February 21, 2016, 01:10:28 AM
That's a really overworked filter. :-P
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on February 21, 2016, 09:54:00 AM
That's a really overworked filter. :-P

well using the link AoS (or 40k) in the right up section saves at least the first wave of crap
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on March 01, 2016, 06:45:32 AM
According to internet rumours there is a Start Collecting box,  for Skeletons and Clan Pestilens coming very soon,  And a Clan Pestilens battletome.    Also rumoured to be more Stormcasts and Khorne Bloodbound releases,   And then quite a few Orruk releases.  From artwork, I would not be surprised to see a new Wyvern, or whatever they will call it.

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Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Champildhir on March 01, 2016, 07:41:57 AM
Don't forget this

Realmgate Wars: Warbeast $24 (Black Library)
Legends of Sigmar: Skaven Pestilence $24 (Black Library)

All here:
http://www.spikeybits.com/2016/02/new-games-workshop-march-releases-revealed.html
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on March 01, 2016, 10:30:25 AM
Seems a second faction of Order is coming, to justify the new "Stormcasts" not being in the current Stormcast Battletome.
According to Turgol:
Quote
Crossing this info with the timeline on BoP, which ends with Draconion's roar and something stirring in the Chamber, I'am guessing it is indeed true that Dracoth Cavalry is next week's release. If this will be indeed a sizeable release, the reason they were not included in BT: SC could be that this is something like a new sub-faction, something like Draconion's sions or something.

(http://www.warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=225620&d=1456817759)
(http://www.warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=225621&d=1456817871)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: S.O.F on March 01, 2016, 12:32:42 PM
According to internet rumours there is a Start Collecting box,  for Skeletons and Clan Pestilens coming very soon,  And a Clan Pestilens battletome.    Also rumoured to be more Stormcasts and Khorne Bloodbound releases,   And then quite a few Orruk releases.  From artwork, I would not be surprised to see a new Wyvern, or whatever they will call it.

Sigh, this slow drip of new and then mainly just the factions we've seen already is getting far too tedious.  Maybe the orcs will be interesting but at a point how much more of factions we've seen can they come out with and then only take away from the older ranges and not give anything back.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on March 01, 2016, 12:46:00 PM
Much as I like the Stormcasts, I do feel that they have had too much focus already.   Khorne, Stormcasts, Nurgle, and so on, should sit back and enjoy what they have for a while.   They need to give more variety, Human and Elf (Aelf) players have seen very little attention, if there are Orruks on the horizon, I'd rather they went straight to that.   Maybe it will just be a Start Collecting box for Stormcasts and Khorne, though there already bundle boxes for them.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on March 02, 2016, 11:18:02 PM
interesting bit:

Quote from: Turgol;7603142
Let me interrupt this very interesting and on tópico discussion with some rumours. According to Squiggly on Natfka, Warzone Fenris 2 will be released after "Metal Duardin v. Tzeentch". Fenris 2 seems to focus (model release-wise) on daemons, so Tzeentch should be a double release. It is unclear whether there will be only daemons or also mortals and whether this metal Duardin and tzeentch in Chamon stuff is the rumoured box from Sad Panda or something else. Ir could be, though, that it is not Elfs vs Slaanesh but Dwarfs vs. Tzeentch. Both options sound great to me.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on March 07, 2016, 02:36:15 PM
Stormcast Dracoth cavalry on their way

http://www.warhammer-forum.com/index.php?showtopic=239537
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on March 07, 2016, 03:18:10 PM
Stormcast Dracoth cavalry on their way

http://www.warhammer-forum.com/index.php?showtopic=239537

yeah inbound stuff!

Quote from: Archibald_TK;7604424
Next WD for your viewing pleasure:

- Battletome Stormcast Eternals EXTREMIS (Because they're more extreme than poor regular Stormcast peasants? It's the 90s all over again!) 21€ / £15 / $25 / AU$ 99.999
88 pages, 2 battleplans, 4 battalions, 7 warscrolls ( so 2 more units than what is already in the WD, they refer to something called a Star Drake so your guess is as good as mine regarding what it will be)

- Dracothian Guards (2 mounted Stormcasts like the one in the AoS box) 55€ / £40 / $65 / AU$ your mortgage

- Knight-Heraldor (1 model) 19.5€ / £15 / $25 / AU$ a trained battle kangaroo
Yup, it's just an alternate model of the previous Heraldor. Rejoice trumpet lovers for that one has no chance of sticking his instrument in his eye!

- Tempest Lords upgrades pack 9€ / £7 / $12 / AU$ your firstborn

- Starter paint sets 28€ / £20 / $33 / AU$ your soul
3 Marines or 3 Stormcasts, with 8 mini pots and a brush. Very very costly for the content so not really designed as an entry tool for kids, it's more for parents looking for a present I suppose.

- Super Glue €7.5 / £5.25 / $8.75 / AU$ 15 (hey, it's actually the real price!)
A box of 5x0.5g of glue, for a mighty total of 2.5g... ... ... I... I... I do not... wut?

WD starts with a photo that I assume is supposed to wake up all those who still believe for some reason that AoS is a skirmish game. Now go buy 12 more Varanguards and 24 Dracothian Guards while you're at it *WHIPLASH*!

5 warscrolls inside the WD, actually one for the Lord Celestant on Dracoth and 4 for the Dracothian Guards that are actually just the 4 weapons options. Fulminators (glaives), Tempestors (not-bolters crossbow), Concussors (hammers) and Desolators (axes, which actually increase their number of attacks the more they are in the unit, 3 for 2, 4 for 4 and 6 for 6... now go buy more!)

Next week hints is something something Dracothion and Warriors of the Extremis Chambers.

Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on March 07, 2016, 03:25:12 PM
My guess for the following week is the Stardrake.

I also get the impression from the pics that the Dracoth Guard kit also makes a Lord-Celestant on Dracoth
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on March 07, 2016, 07:46:16 PM
I like the idea of the cavalry riding Dracoths and the riders look ace... but why..why.. make a whole battletome evolve around 1 box of dracoth knights with 4 weapon options (which then leaves out so much diveristy between different units.. bar the weapons) and some stardrake probably also in 2-3 options like the Magmadroth.. and then mayhap 1 more kit..
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on March 07, 2016, 11:13:02 PM
Yeah, that batttletome does feel like it's milking it a bit.  Although it's much cheaper, and probably thinner than most battletomes.   Not sure about this one
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Champildhir on March 08, 2016, 02:05:36 AM
I like the idea of the cavalry riding Dracoths and the riders look ace... but why..why.. make a whole battletome evolve around 1 box of dracoth knights with 4 weapon options (which then leaves out so much diveristy between different units.. bar the weapons) and some stardrake probably also in 2-3 options like the Magmadroth.. and then mayhap 1 more kit..

It will have 7 warscrolls. The drake appears in the background of one of the photos revealed, check it out :)

I had also the same thought as you SKS: https://twitter.com/champildhir/status/706875460265771008

This should have been released when the rest of the Stormcast were. I bought recently the Stormcast Eternals battletome, and now this one is coming... I cannot avoid feeling like deceived somehow. I like AoS so far, the fluff and the models (and although here in Japan I don't get to play anyone, I follow online different battle reports and forums and the more I read, the more I like the game system as well...)... but IMHO I don't think GW's strategy is good in this particular case. If these had been released last year, they could have moved now to the Orruks (which are coming finally next month) and get forward a little bit into other factions sooner, because my feeling is that most of old fantasy players that are still willing to give it a try to AoS are actually waiting for what is going to be the background of other factions like Aelfs and the Free People. And let's not forget that they are releasing a new model for the Knight Heraldor.... I really don't see the point of that and I believe that one was not scheduled, and it is just a patch because people didn't really like the previous one. Maybe?
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on March 08, 2016, 10:49:37 PM
rules out for the cav dudes

Quote
10" Movement, 7 Bravery, 5 Wounds each, and they all have 3+ armor and a reroll on 1.

Hammer and Axe Guys have a Storm Blast with 12", 1 Attack, 4+ to Hit which then deals D3 Mortal Wounds.

Crossbow and Lance Guys have a different Breath Attack called Lightning Surge that has 6" reach, D3 Attacks, hits on 3+ and deals a Mortal Wound (2 if the Dracoth is within 3" of its target). Dracoth Claws are 1", 3 Attacks with 3+/3+. -1 and 1 (which turns into a D6 if your Wound Roll was a 6).

Fulminators (Lance Guys) have 2" reach, 3 Attacks each with 3+/3+, -1 and 1. They get a "Glaive-Ward" that gives them a +1 on their Save roll during the Shooting Phase. They also get 3 Damage instead of 1 during the turn they've charged in.

Tempestors have Volleystorm Crossbows with 12", 4 Attacks with 3+/4*, no Rend and 1 plus Warblades with 1", 3 Attacks with 3+/4+, no Rend and 1. They have a Special Rule called "Harassing Fire" (or something like that...) that can be announced at the beginning of the Shooting Phase that makes them all attack one designated enemy unit - and that unit has a -1 on each of their "To Hit"-Rolls until your next Hero Phase.

Concussors (Hammer Guys) have 1", 3 Attacks with 3+/3+, -1 and 2 Damage with an Additional Mortal Wound if the Hit Roll was a 6 (NOTE: Additionally, not instead of!) which stuns the Enemy Unit and disables their Piling In if they haven't .

Desolators (Axe Guys) have 2", 3 Attacks with 4+/3+, -1 and 2 Damage...and they get extra Attacks if you have more models in their unit. 4 Attacks on 4 Models, and 6 Attacks for at least 6 models. CASH GRAB ALERT

Lord-Celestant now has options for Thunderaxe (2", 3 Attacks with 3+/3+, -1 and 2 Damage which gains 1 additional attack for each Stormcast Unit within 5"), Stormstrike Glaive (2", 4 Attacks with 3+/4+, -1 and 1, which, in case he has charged in that turn, becomes a -2 and 3 Damage), Lightning Hammer (1", 3 Attacks, 3+, 3+, -1 and 2 Damage which becomes 2 Mortal Wounds for each Hit Roll of 6 that also stuin the enemy unit and disables their Piling In), and the good old Tempestos Hammer (with 2", 3 Attacks with 3+/2+, -1 and D3 Damage plus an additional D3 attacks in the turn he has charged). Now gets a Reroll on Save Rolls of 1 due to his shield, and he has the old Lightning Breath with 12" that on a 4+ (each unit separately) deals D3 Mortal Wounds to units within 2" of that spot - both friend and foe.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on March 11, 2016, 11:47:16 PM
Pictures of the new dragon (saw one in the B&P come by also)

(https://warofsigmar.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/blogging/picture4/530/378ddcfd34b57b2bea0c2bbc3219e245_94383.png)

(https://warofsigmar.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/blogging/picture1/530/3948ddcb8d05942139b5dbacb0ea3cda_94383.png)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Xathrodox86 on March 14, 2016, 08:56:15 AM
I can't believe I'm saying that, but this Dragon is really, really cool looking. Might grab it for a small conversion, as a KF's alternative to Deathclaw.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Syn Ace on March 14, 2016, 04:08:41 PM
That is a pretty bad ass looking model.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on March 15, 2016, 10:18:24 PM
I like the big dragon! The little drakes are pretty good to, although I prefer the riders with different weapons. The handbow ones just look a bit to much like guns. Otherwise they look great!
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on March 16, 2016, 06:58:15 PM
http://imgur.com/a/0BGzI

scrolling down to the rules.. pretty good, carvernous jaws might see some spite though as it can be used against monsters and hero's alike

rolling a 6 oh... bye bye hero/monster of 5 wounds
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on March 17, 2016, 11:18:34 AM
http://imgur.com/a/0BGzI

scrolling down to the rules.. pretty good, carvernous jaws might see some spite though as it can be used against monsters and hero's alike

rolling a 6 oh... bye bye hero/monster of 5 wounds

Yeah, with up to 3 attempts if it's at full health, and it ha a good chance of weakening some of those heroes in the shooting phase.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on March 17, 2016, 02:13:03 PM
It seems GW have taken off the tinfoil hats, and opened Facebook pages for 40k and AoS

AoS link:-

https://www.facebook.com/GWWarhammerAgeofSigmar/?fref=ts
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on March 18, 2016, 07:48:55 AM
I really, really, really need those Stormcast knights! :icon_eek:

It seems GW have taken off the tinfoil hats, and opened Facebook pages for 40k and AoS

AoS link:-

https://www.facebook.com/GWWarhammerAgeofSigmar/?fref=ts

Welp, I now have actual incentive to join facebook. :wink:

also, I don't think it's been mentioned but I'm hearing strong rumors of a upcoming Tzeentch vs Duardin starter kit.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on March 18, 2016, 05:07:29 PM
also a rumor that GW will actively set up a tournament scene for 40k and AoS with a sort of point system for AoS
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on March 18, 2016, 09:30:28 PM
Latest comments on the points thing is that it's not so much points for units, but points for playing, or achieving things in games.   And AoS will have scenarios that suit different army builds.   

It wouldn't surprise me if it turns out like the most recent Warhammer World AoS events, and how those events are scored, and using the Laurels of Victory scoring system in the event battleplans

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Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on March 19, 2016, 02:47:32 PM
indeed that is what you get when warseer picks up on something over at Bols lol!  :eusa_wall:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Syn Ace on March 20, 2016, 10:20:54 PM
Their decision not to do a points system was just dumb.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on March 20, 2016, 11:54:35 PM
indeed that is what you get when warseer picks up on something. over at Bols lol!  :eusa_wall:

Indeed, they are quite the source of misinformation these days.

@Syn Ace, at the beginning it was not a wise but I think it's better that they don't use points now as I feel they'd lose more players now than gain.

The balancing comps like the Azyr system are very popular with AoS players and GW making the points and restricting previously usable forces from official play would be a negative move.

Edit: oh yeah, last audio novel mentioned human auxiliaries (just in a small mention) and Mannfred was afraid of an Orruk who was an herald of something called the Great Red. Chaos Orruks maybe?
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on March 21, 2016, 09:44:42 AM
I don't think I'd like a points system like old Warhammer for AoS now I've played it enough.  I love having the freedom to build any army I feel like with no restrictions.  I can just go with a theme, or try stuff out.

I've not really used a comp system other than wounds, that's a bit hit and miss if you are just playing a straight battle.   Battleplans can often benefit an underdog
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on March 21, 2016, 04:17:43 PM
I think using battalion scrolls together with wounds would work great either filling up the units within the battalion scroll or fill it up with loose (no hero/monster) units till the set wounds.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on March 21, 2016, 04:23:08 PM
new models for existing warscrolls of khorne with extra weapon options I suppose coming up:

(http://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/at/at2/2016/3/21/f72283888b5341a64071ba78c4ede5b9_90911.png)
(http://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/at/at2/2016/3/21/bd4f19c6b9fa92309d33a4d052663b6d_90911.png)
(http://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/at/at2/2016/3/21/e04d5c02bb6f09f57a1e5486dac31d06_90911.png)
(http://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/at/at2/2016/3/21/fd099a6215c71d7dd616a30998e528b3_90911.png)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gneisenau on March 21, 2016, 09:43:59 PM
"Aspiring Deathbringer".



Aspiring.
Deathbringer.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on March 21, 2016, 11:41:54 PM
Some guys try as hard as they can, but still can't get stuff done apparently.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on March 22, 2016, 12:56:02 AM
Must have only killed Stormcasts, so it doesn't count. :-P (there actually is a novel where a chaos warrior has to kill the same Stormcast over and over again. It made me think, Dark Souls: the boss perspective. :wink:)

Awesome to see about the upcoming order alliance, that's a must buy for me. :icon_biggrin:

I guess that's why the Bretonnians were sold out recently,  it didn't make sense at first as the Tomb kings went out with the death alliance book.

Here's hoping we see some Order start collecting boxes. :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on March 22, 2016, 07:55:10 AM
Bretonnians on the website have been on life support since The End Times at least,  And rumours they are going to going soon have fueled people buying before they sell out

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Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on March 22, 2016, 08:00:49 AM
Indeed, there's a truth to that.

I also think they never made it to last chance to buy was because the models varied to wildly on who had what in stock. One country had trees another country didn't but still had pegs, that sort of thing.

Going to have to kitbash for future GW approved Bretonnians.  Oh well, I like a challenge.  :-D
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on March 25, 2016, 06:14:25 PM
Well here's two things:

First, Bretonnia is heavily rumored to be going on the last chance to buy section this Saturday. Which is better than everything just going out of stock as it previously looked like. Going to be buying alot for my birthday. :-D

Also, the grand alliance order battletome is going to be on pre-order Saturday as well.

Secondly, this: https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/575

Lots of order models are getting the axe to make room for future AoS stock. Better stock up on your favorite characters now!
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on March 25, 2016, 07:47:32 PM
There are 253 warscrolls  in Order in the app.  Grand Alliance Order book will have 175.    Not a surprise that lots of stuff going last chance to buy.   Most of the characters going is no surprise, nor the metal and resin stuff.   There may be some stuff that will go or stay that doesn't fit that. 

We will find out for sure once NZ prior Dersingham and Last Chance to Buy goes live in a couple of hours

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Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on March 25, 2016, 08:09:02 PM
Indeed. I am surprised the warrior priest and cannon are on the list. You think GW plans to make new ones?
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on March 25, 2016, 10:08:55 PM
Not surprised by warrior priests since they were in the first AoS  book.   I expected most dual kit plastics to stay though

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Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Syn Ace on March 25, 2016, 11:57:24 PM
They put out so many damned books I'm not buying them to get the formations and scenarios. In fact, it's turned off people I know from getting into the game (I see the same thing happening with 40K among my friends--all complaining about the constant new books and formation). Anyway, I've given up figuring out a decent way to get a balanced game together, plusI can't get anyone to play, so I've stopped buying stuff for now. Like that new dragon, but won't be laying out the cash for it now.

I really miss the old official Warhammer even if GW didn't support it properly as far as rule fixes.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on March 26, 2016, 12:12:18 AM
You can use their app for that stuff you know.

Also, the Azyr comp is very nice for balanced gameplay.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on March 26, 2016, 01:17:14 AM
The unit warscrolls are all free in the app, but not the battalion warscrolls, battleplans or time if war rules

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Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on March 26, 2016, 01:27:29 AM
True but it's alot cheaper than buying the books.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Calisson on March 26, 2016, 04:03:55 PM
I really miss the old official Warhammer even if GW didn't support it properly as far as rule fixes.
Welcome to the 9th Age!  :smile2:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Syn Ace on March 26, 2016, 11:11:40 PM
Eh, can't say I'm sold on 9th Age.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Syn Ace on March 26, 2016, 11:17:16 PM
I did actually break down and buy some AoS. Local game shop was selling all it's AoS stock at 50% off.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on March 27, 2016, 12:18:35 AM
Oh, sweet deal! What'd you get?
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Syn Ace on March 27, 2016, 02:15:36 AM
Overlord Bastion. 2 sets of Liberators. Blood Warriors. Knight Vexillor.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on March 27, 2016, 02:18:44 AM
Nice!! That bastion does look good, if only there was an Order version of it...
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on March 27, 2016, 07:33:14 PM
Turgol on Warseer:
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New stuff confirmed coming is orcs for three April weeks and then around June Tzeentch and new Dwarfs.

With the possible exception of maybe Shadowkin, I'am quite sure we are not seeing new elfs nor humans in 2016.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on March 27, 2016, 07:56:06 PM
Well that matches up with everything I've heard.

Novels pointing towards more Orruk activity.

Tzeentch and Duardin starter box.

Humans and Aelves still in the works.

Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on March 27, 2016, 08:41:19 PM
Well that matches up with everything I've heard.

Novels pointing towards more Orruk activity.

Tzeentch and Duardin starter box.

Humans and Aelves still in the works.


Many reliable sources have said Orruks coming very soon, and plenty of hints from GW backing that up.   

One fairly reliable source said a standalone box game set in AoS,  not a starter box, I can't see the Stormcasts vs Bloodbound starter going any time soon.  And not like the Star Collecting boxes.   I would bet the miniatures in that set will get warscrolls and be usable in AoS though.   That source suggested Tzeentch and Duardin for that.   

Aelves and humans I kind of expected to be last, as it would need the most change in Aesthetic to fit in the new setting.  It does, in my opinion look like the second half of the year will see more new stuff, rather than reboxing, and renaming.   I sort of expect another round of Stormcasts this year.   I hope not, but with 3 parts of their forces unaccounted for,  there is a possibility.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gneisenau on March 27, 2016, 11:33:36 PM
I did actually break down and buy some AoS. Local game shop was selling all it's AoS stock at 50% off.

I hope it's not because they are closing?
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Syn Ace on March 28, 2016, 05:26:36 AM
That would be my suspicion though the clerk said they were 'reorganizing.' I guess expanding more beyond GW, which is their main product line. They had 40K stuff 25% off and AoS was 50%.

The fellow who owns the store was one of my former customers. When the economy crashed, he got a sweetheart deal from his dad, who owns a bunch of commercial properties that were sitting empty. He opened a really large shop that he pays no rent on (he's got about 15-20 gaming tables all with terrain). He got married and had a kid and his dad was making noise about him getting a real career.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on March 28, 2016, 05:37:55 AM
Gotta love it when you're in the know with people like that.  :happy:

Anyway, I'm hearing that we might be seeing the new Orruks really soon.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Syn Ace on March 29, 2016, 02:22:50 AM
Shops is in fact closing. Dad is turning it into two suites that he's already got tenants committed to. Dunno if that means the shop is moving, but I think if you're selling inventory like that, you're going out of business.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on March 29, 2016, 02:22:35 PM
Quote from: MongooseMatt 683422 8551605 null
Retailers have just been sent this:



A 288 page hardback book. The third in the Realmgate Wars series, joining Quest for Ghal Maraz and Balance of Power that allows all fans of Warhammer Age of Sigmar to fight in the deadly battles that rage between the forces of Chaos, Death, Order and Destruction. As the Everchosen seeks to gain dominion over the mysterious Godbeasts, that dwell in the realms and use them to assault Sigmaron itself. Lots of other forces join the war too, including Seraphon (Lizardmen), Brayherds & Warherds (Beastmen), Free Peoples – Candlemen (Empire), Fyreslayers (Dwarves), The Clans (Skaven) and Spiderfang Grots (Orcs & Goblins). This massive book contains something for everyone!
 
The book contains:
4 new Times of War – rules for fighting battles in the strange and mystical realms of Fire and Life
13 Battleplans that include advice on playing 3 and 4 player games and running campaigns for even more fun
14 Warscrolls for the main characters and units in the story
12 Warscroll battalions chosen from the many factions that are fighting in the war
Stage by Stage painting guides for the Tempest Lords, Anvils of the Heldenhammer, Bloodbound of the Skullfiend Tribe, Bloodscorch Bulltribes and Clann Vrrtkin Skaven, plus a guide for painting a Realmgate and the Realm of the Battle Game board

This sounds good. :smile2:

Wondering what the Candlemen will mean. Free Guild from the fire realm?
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on March 29, 2016, 04:31:59 PM
Quote from: MongooseMatt 683422 8551605 null
Retailers have just been sent this:



A 288 page hardback book. The third in the Realmgate Wars series, joining Quest for Ghal Maraz and Balance of Power that allows all fans of Warhammer Age of Sigmar to fight in the deadly battles that rage between the forces of Chaos, Death, Order and Destruction. As the Everchosen seeks to gain dominion over the mysterious Godbeasts, that dwell in the realms and use them to assault Sigmaron itself. Lots of other forces join the war too, including Seraphon (Lizardmen), Brayherds & Warherds (Beastmen), Free Peoples – Candlemen (Empire), Fyreslayers (Dwarves), The Clans (Skaven) and Spiderfang Grots (Orcs & Goblins). This massive book contains something for everyone!
 
The book contains:
4 new Times of War – rules for fighting battles in the strange and mystical realms of Fire and Life
13 Battleplans that include advice on playing 3 and 4 player games and running campaigns for even more fun
14 Warscrolls for the main characters and units in the story
12 Warscroll battalions chosen from the many factions that are fighting in the war
Stage by Stage painting guides for the Tempest Lords, Anvils of the Heldenhammer, Bloodbound of the Skullfiend Tribe, Bloodscorch Bulltribes and Clann Vrrtkin Skaven, plus a guide for painting a Realmgate and the Realm of the Battle Game board

This sounds good. :smile2:

Wondering what the Candlemen will mean. Free Guild from the fire realm?

Sounds good indeed! Not so good for my wallet again!

Candlemen sound more like something from Realm of Shadow
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gneisenau on March 29, 2016, 09:30:18 PM
Shops is in fact closing. Dad is turning it into two suites that he's already got tenants committed to. Dunno if that means the shop is moving, but I think if you're selling inventory like that, you're going out of business.

Sorry to hear that.

"Reorganizing" was how it started for the LGS in my neck of the woods. Of course they can't say "we're closing", otherwise everybody will speculate on even bigger price reductions.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on March 29, 2016, 10:40:24 PM
Isn't GW "reorganising" with AoS? Not that anyone would speculate on big price reductions...
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on March 30, 2016, 02:03:15 AM
@Stealthknightsteg,  That's a good point about the Candlemen but I'm betting on fire as the realms of life and fire are already explored upon. Though, if those new dark elf model rumors are anything to go by, they could be providing foreshadowing. (Maybe something like Malerion hired them to do some knife work for him)

My guess is they're going to be working with the Fyreslayers.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on March 30, 2016, 03:37:42 PM
we will see  :happy:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on April 02, 2016, 07:48:42 PM
More rumors on that Tzeentch vs Duardin board game.

The name so far revealed is Warhammer quest: silver tower. You apparently fight Tzeentch horrors that continue to break down into more horrors within in an ever-changing dungeon.

I'm personally hoping this is gonna be the work of that new specialist branch. Kind of a herald for their new set-up.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on April 02, 2016, 09:40:50 PM
From what I get from talking to people who worked for GW, it takes about 2 years to go from idea to release.  The new Specialist Games studio was set up archer start of Jan, and it looks like Bloodbowl will be their first release, but that's in 2017.   I would expect this has been in development since they finished the development of AoS in the studio.   

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Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on April 11, 2016, 07:58:45 AM
Orruks next week in WD

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2016/04/gw-breaking-new-orruks-wyvern-spotted.html

Looks like a really new model.. but why the bright yellow colourscheme? Makes it look closer to 40k Orks that way
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on April 11, 2016, 09:18:09 AM
Grainy low-res photos really don't help.   But I'm not keen on that look at all.   I know a lot people already don't like Stormcasts for being Sigmarines,  and this is only going to be worse, since these look even more 40k, like Bad Moons have invaded.   

I really want to see these painted up like traditional Black Orcs, which would be more fitting.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on April 11, 2016, 01:02:13 PM
Yeah, it's definitely unanimous that the yellow was a bad idea. Once they get a proper paint job they'll look alot more menacing.

The models aren't half bad though.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on April 11, 2016, 02:15:07 PM
By the by, has anyone been following that AoS tourney with GW coverage? Really amazing looking armies in it.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/686899.page

Also, MongooseMatt from Dakkadakka did a review on the Godbeasts book.

https://ttgamingdiary.wordpress.com/2016/04/08/review-godbeasts/

It looks like we were both wrong, SKS,  the Candlemen were devoted of Sigmar. :smile2:

I'm hoping the next book might have the Azyrheim Lancehost in it as I loved their background in the Grand Order book.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Syn Ace on April 11, 2016, 06:03:45 PM
For me, terms like 'mob' and 'Mega Boss' definitely invoke the 40K spirit, too. In addition to the Bad Moon paint scheme.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on April 12, 2016, 09:30:14 PM
By the by, has anyone been following that AoS tourney with GW coverage? Really amazing looking armies in it.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/686899.page

Also, MongooseMatt from Dakkadakka did a review on the Godbeasts book.

https://ttgamingdiary.wordpress.com/2016/04/08/review-godbeasts/

It looks like we were both wrong, SKS,  the Candlemen were devoted of Sigmar. :smile2:

I'm hoping the next book might have the Azyrheim Lancehost in it as I loved their background in the Grand Order book.

Well at the time we weren't really yet up to speed with the story behind the new Order factions so I say we are off on that one  :biggriin:
Book looks certainly very good! I just need to wait to get mine.. As for that all this is going done some water rapids not really able to keep up with all of this.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on April 15, 2016, 07:24:08 AM
Hope you had fun with your trip! :-D

Great to hear your getting the book. (Though so many people have been posting pics and lore sections I feel like I already read it. :-P)

Anyway, the Candlemen were interesting to read about. I like how the lore keep showing what the "abandoned" races had to do to survive the chaos occupation of the mortal realms. The Order Draconis was my favorite in that light as they behaved as I pictured Bretonnians would with skill and horsemanship to outmaneuver the chaos hordes.

Also, has anyone seen the Facebook thread on choosing a realm to be made into a battleboard?  I couldn't believe how fast the comments exploded on it!(hoping for light myself)

Another thing, saw this awesome Stormcast army.

https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10207319629403756&id=1076071481&set=p.10207319629403756&source=47

Lastly, good ol' MongooseMatt posted his battle reports on the quest for Ghal Maraz.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/687188.page#8588901
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Karl Voss of Averland on April 15, 2016, 03:58:58 PM
How do you think they will, fluff wise, bring Orcs/Orks/Orruks into the universe? Did some fungus survive the end of all things?
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on April 16, 2016, 09:58:32 AM
The orcs were a already put into the setting with the first few books.

After Sigmar was revived by Dracothion(a powerful celestial entity that collects souls and lost magics from destroyed worlds) they began creating the city of Azyrheim that surrounds the core of the-world-that-was where all the lost souls clung to. After creating his new city, the lost souls were given flesh and the humans, dwarves, elves, orcs, gobbos and ogres of the old world were reborn.

Obviously,  ogres and orcs are volatile allies at best so Sigmar sent them forth on such missions as culling the deadly and supernatural beasts found throughout the realms. Sigmar was able to strengthen such an alliance by rescuing Gorkamorka from a creature made of sentient amber that claimed dominion over the realm of beasts. (It's pretty obvious that Gorkamorka just kept smashing at something that couldn't be smashed until it engulfed him)

So, with Gorkamorka in his pantheon of gods of order, the Mortal realms were in a golden age.

Then chaos came back, the pantheon broke up due to Nagash and Tzeentch's schemes and, of course, Gorkamorka and his hordes got bored and rampaged throughout the realms.

The orcs and ogres settled in the beast realm while the goblins focused on the realm of life.

Hope that helps, I summed it up the best I could. :smile2:

Also, as a interesting thing about that recent AoS tourney, besides the winner getting free models and the best painted force getting a free monster, the three runner-up armies got showcased in the web store.

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-CA/Warhammer?N=102267+4294965182&Nu=product.repositoryId&qty=12&sorting=rec&view=table&categoryId=cat440002a-flat

Pretty cool. :biggriin:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on April 18, 2016, 04:09:25 PM
Quote from: Archibald_TK;7617584
Here is your monday morning fix.

But first let me give you some unrelated info, just because if I post them here people will be forced to see them: The Imperial Knight Renegade game is labelled in our mails as "While Stock Lasts" and when I did my order my rep confirmed that all versions including the English ones are limited. Which means that when available stocks will reach zero you won't be able to order them anymore in both independent stores AND physical GW stores. Whether it will stay available online is another story. (Oh and Btw the Renegade Knights rules are not in the next WD).

Ok now let's talk abut the Orruks.

DISCLAIMER: Before we go you must understand that these models are large, really large. And I mean that they appear to dwarf any other orc models. The Maw Krusha is more massive than the Magmadroth (if I remember the name right), Megaboss is huge... in parallel, this is a very very costly release, even by AoS standard. So don't be surprised by what follows. Also since there are so many references sorry but I will just give you the Euro/UK/US prices and I'll complete at a later time. Also I'm going fast so don't blame me if there are mistakes please.

EDIT- I'll amend my post with the following: I shall add that when I said they appear to dwarf other orcs models I don't mean they are Ogre sized, but that they will stand a head above regular Orcs, far more for the Megaboss. Keep in mind GW really don't make it easy to gauge precisely the size difference between models in their pics.

- Maw-Krusha (1 model) 90€ / £65 / $110
Comes with either a Megaboss or Gordrakk the Fist of Gork on top. Apparently the Krusha itself has two heads options. Few aesthetic differences overall.

- Gore-Gruntas (3 models) 67€ / £48 / $79
Huge Boar riders. They are... different? You have to see them for yourselves but I fear they will not be that well received. It appears that those are not 3 different models, but two, one of them being repeated twice. No weapons options and they really all look similar.

- Brutes (5 models) 42€ / £30 / $50
Heavier than Black Orcs, can be built with either two weapons or a two handed one.

- Megaboss 34€ / £24 / $40

- Weirdnob Shaman 28€ / £20 / $33

- Warchanter 26€ / £18.5 / $30

- Ardboys (15 models) 45€ / £32 / $53
Repackaged Black Orcs with round bases.

- Battletome Ironjawz (128p) 28€ / £20 / $33
14 Warscrolls and Battalions

- Grand Alliance Destruction (112p) 14€ / £10 / $16.5
12 factions, 61 Warscrolls, minus at least 7 for the Ironjaws that's 54 remaining for the old range, place your bets.

From dakkadakka forum:
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(http://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/at/2016/4/18/d44aaaa0137d9758ee5c2d7225149de5_5394.jpg__thumb)
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Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on April 18, 2016, 04:43:34 PM
Pretty vicious looking, they're actually kind've intimidating.

The maw crusher rider is proof that black armor would've been far superior in appearances for the army than yellow.

My bets on destruction culling, all the classic goblins and gnoblers.

Sweet release, might collect their battletome as well.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on April 18, 2016, 05:58:41 PM
The orcs were a already put into the setting with the first few books.

After Sigmar was revived by Dracothion(a powerful celestial entity that collects souls and lost magics from destroyed worlds) they began creating the city of Azyrheim that surrounds the core of the-world-that-was where all the lost souls clung to. After creating his new city, the lost souls were given flesh and the humans, dwarves, elves, orcs, gobbos and ogres of the old world were reborn.

Obviously,  ogres and orcs are volatile allies at best so Sigmar sent them forth on such missions as culling the deadly and supernatural beasts found throughout the realms. Sigmar was able to strengthen such an alliance by rescuing Gorkamorka from a creature made of sentient amber that claimed dominion over the realm of beasts. (It's pretty obvious that Gorkamorka just kept smashing at something that couldn't be smashed until it engulfed him)

So, with Gorkamorka in his pantheon of gods of order, the Mortal realms were in a golden age.

Then chaos came back, the pantheon broke up due to Nagash and Tzeentch's schemes and, of course, Gorkamorka and his hordes got bored and rampaged throughout the realms.

The orcs and ogres settled in the beast realm while the goblins focused on the realm of life.

Hope that helps, I summed it up the best I could. :smile2:

Also, as a interesting thing about that recent AoS tourney, besides the winner getting free models and the best painted force getting a free monster, the three runner-up armies got showcased in the web store.

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-CA/Warhammer?N=102267+4294965182&Nu=product.repositoryId&qty=12&sorting=rec&view=table&categoryId=cat440002a-flat

Pretty cool. :biggriin:

I can't find any reference to Sigmar creating the realms, or the people that live there.   Only that he was shown the realms by Dracothian in return for forging a necklace out of the Core of Mallus, the World that Was.   It says he explored the realms and found primitive humans, and taught them civilisation.   It implies they were already there.  I can't find any reference as to how, or that their souls were carried from the old world,   I can only speculate.    It may be that the mortal realms were there at the time of the Old Slann, and as they created the Old World, they could have taken primitive Aelves, Duardin and Humans from the Mortal Realms to the World that Was.  But that's just my idea, rather than anything official

Dracothian put the World that was in the heavens, by Sigendil the High star, where Sigmar built his palace Sigmaron, and the Sigmarabulum the ring that surrounds the core of the World that was.    Azyrheim lies on the ground in the Realm of Azur, beneath the High star Sigendil

Anyway, it goes to show I might need to read stuff again.   The trouble is, so much is vague, and unexplained, it's just nonsense, so people are filling in the gaps in their own minds
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on April 18, 2016, 06:10:49 PM
As for the Orruks...   I like the Maw-Crusha, though the skin texture just looks odd to me, something about it doesn't sit right.   As with a lot of releases lately, the terrible choice of colours, and painting style really doesn't help me like this stuff at all.   
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Finlay on April 18, 2016, 08:54:30 PM
the shaman is cool.

the rest?

they got some 40k on my orks.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on April 19, 2016, 06:55:55 PM
Really don't like the yellow armor, but for the most part  I like the rest of the models. They sure do look bigger to me then current orcs.

I'm far more excited for the new dwarf stuff however, although I'm expecting they'll look very different.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on April 20, 2016, 09:32:55 AM
Warscrolls for the above mentioned Orruks
Gordrakk (on the Maw-krusha) is brutal!

(http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=18160&d=1461040478)
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Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on April 20, 2016, 11:09:31 AM
More 'bout the 'ead stompin!

(http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=18167&d=1461078671)
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Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Ursa Doom on April 24, 2016, 09:27:59 AM
I like the shaman. Otherwise I don't really like anything about the new Orcs.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Finlay on April 25, 2016, 12:17:43 AM
they're 40k orks without guns, and an IP friendly name.

Incredibly uninspiring.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on April 25, 2016, 06:21:55 AM
@Oxycutter,  I didn't say he created the realms, only his city in his realm. There has been mention of the people in the realms before the coming of chaos such as a few empire names and such but you're right on alot of stuff being foggy and filled in with fanon.

What I posted was mostly from official sources but a few things I took from second-hand sources like the clinging of souls to the old world. I'll ask the AoS lads at Dakkadakka to confirm on a few things. Heavens knows that MongooseMatt is a living AoS encyclopedia from the fact he purchases every book release.

@Stealthknightsteg,  awesome job on putting up those pics. That Fury of Gork book is rumored to be tied-in with the upcoming Silver Tower game. (Sidenote: sorry I haven't posted my Stormcasts yet when I told you earlier I would, no free time these days. :( )

Here's some other neat Orruk stuff:
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Also, Lady Atia has posted some photos of alternate color schemes:

Blue Orruk
(https://warofsigmar.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/blogging/picture1/709/20160423_134853.jpg)

Black Orruk
(https://warofsigmar.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/blogging/picture4/709/20160423_134848.jpg)

Iron Orruk
(https://warofsigmar.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/blogging/picture5/709/20160423_134918.jpg)

Orange Orruk(no joke--you can see this paint scheme in the preview pages for the Painting Ironjawz and it's Troll Slayer Orange!)--with bonus peg leg!
(https://warofsigmar.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/blogging/picture6/709/20160423_134922.jpg)

Bone Orruk
(https://warofsigmar.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/blogging/picture7/709/20160423_134924.jpg)

Quote from: @baronthehumbled" source="/post/4120/thread" timestamp="1461208305
Hahaha, best fluff I ever read for greenskins!

[quote ="Grimskul"]Some of the fluff excerpts for the Ironjaw brutes are pretty good regarding how they organize. Proppa and humourous like an Orc:

"Things get more ‘precise’ when it comes to organising multiple mobs. These are gathered into fives, one for each finger a Megaboss can count on. These mob gatherings are known as fists, and just like the bunched fingers of an orruk, they are great for smashing stuff. In fact, this is often how a Megaboss will form a fist, showing a mob boss an open hand before closing the fingers and thumping them, much to the amusement of all involved. It is a brutally effective method of organisation and one that has worked for the Ironjawz for as long as any of them can remember. Not all Megabosses are created equal, however, and some have trouble getting even to five, especially if they have lost fingers or, worse, whole hands. Others are rare and talented generals, at least by orruk standards, and have discovered that if they hold both their hands next to each other, they can get to ten. Rumours tell of mysterious barefoot orruks that can count even higher, but most Ironjawz don’t believe such fantastical tales."

This is definitely AoS's best release. 40k, 9th & AoS players love the Orruks, KoW players want the Maw Crusher and some products were temporarily "sold out" when the pre-orders went up. GW's in the money now. :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on April 25, 2016, 07:59:13 PM
I like pretty much every color better then yellow. Blue and black in particular look good. That little fluff blurb was also fun.

It's good to see the release went pretty well.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Syn Ace on April 25, 2016, 08:04:44 PM
I don't know what it is, but there's something about the orc armor that I don't like.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Sharkbelly on April 25, 2016, 09:32:12 PM
It's uncomfortable. And itchy.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Ursa Doom on April 26, 2016, 10:20:14 AM
they're 40k orks without guns, and an IP friendly name.

Incredibly uninspiring.

It's just not that. They are too removed from the down to earth wargear they used to have in WHFB. I can only suspend my disbelief so far. It looks like they are wearing jagged bathtubs that they butchered and repurposed. Even 40k Orks looks like there is a mechanical logic to their armours. I just feel that there is too much style over substance all over the Age of Sigmar miniature line.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Karl Voss of Averland on April 26, 2016, 01:09:00 PM
they're 40k orks without guns, and an IP friendly name.

Incredibly uninspiring.

It's just not that. They are too removed from the down to earth wargear they used to have in WHFB. I can only suspend my disbelief so far. It looks like they are wearing jagged bathtubs that they butchered and repurposed. Even 40k Orks looks like there is a mechanical logic to their armours. I just feel that there is too much style over substance all over the Age of Sigmar miniature line.

I agree - style over substance is the whole point of AOS though, and it makes sense from their perspective. If they are making a more straightforward game, GW just needs models that pass the "look cool test" so people who play casually will purchase.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Finlay on April 26, 2016, 05:18:08 PM
I read a post on a f-book group collecting rumours.

Now, huge pinch of salt, as a rumour, on f-book.
But they predicted the knights renegade and flyer box set for 40k, both of which are true.

It said the sales of AoS have been terrible, but the sales of Fantasy models have seen a huge upsurge (speculated (to me obviously) people finishing collections and buying stuff in the "last chance" section before they get squatted)

The u-turn on ways to play might support this as being true.

the post talked about Kirby as a toxic figure who absolutely did not value Gameplaying or rules.

and talked about 50% of staff not making it out of the 6 month probation, and 75% leaving within a year. Shocking. if true. I feel sorry for the chap who runs the Exeter store on his own, it's a bonkers business model, for a shop which needs the guy to be running intro games, showing people how to paint, etc.


Of course we will never know as GW don't release that information :)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on April 26, 2016, 05:21:00 PM
still the warhammer app gives numerous news about new stores opening.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Finlay on April 26, 2016, 05:23:02 PM
total anecdotal evidence- I was in Bournemouth for a work conference- happened to walk past a GW. Shut, with a sign on the door saying "this store is closed until we recruit a manager".
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on April 26, 2016, 06:04:53 PM
I read a post on a f-book group collecting rumours.

Now, huge pinch of salt, as a rumour, on f-book.
But they predicted the knights renegade and flyer box set for 40k, both of which are true.

It said the sales of AoS have been terrible, but the sales of Fantasy models have seen a huge upsurge (speculated (to me obviously) people finishing collections and buying stuff in the "last chance" section before they get squatted)

The u-turn on ways to play might support this as being true.

the post talked about Kirby as a toxic figure who absolutely did not value Gameplaying or rules.

and talked about 50% of staff not making it out of the 6 month probation, and 75% leaving within a year. Shocking. if true. I feel sorry for the chap who runs the Exeter store on his own, it's a bonkers business model, for a shop which needs the guy to be running intro games, showing people how to paint, etc.


Of course we will never know as GW don't release that information :)


That set of rumours was on Faeit212 a week or so ago.   Don't know whether it was there first or not.   

Some of it sounded ike fan fiction to me

The annual financial report will be in July, it will only show overall sales figures,   so we will never know for sure how well Age of Sigmar is doing, or whether that exceeds or falls below their expectations.   
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on April 26, 2016, 06:29:40 PM
Really doesn't matter now about Kirby, Rountree is the new guy in charge and he actually plays the games. :smile2:

Probably why the big turn around recently. Also, not sure that AoS is doing bad when every AoS tourney(about 30-120 players) has alot of people with the new armies.

Though you did say take it with salt which is wise with any rumor.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Finlay on April 26, 2016, 07:30:49 PM
I read a post on a f-book group collecting rumours.

Now, huge pinch of salt, as a rumour, on f-book.
But they predicted the knights renegade and flyer box set for 40k, both of which are true.

It said the sales of AoS have been terrible, but the sales of Fantasy models have seen a huge upsurge (speculated (to me obviously) people finishing collections and buying stuff in the "last chance" section before they get squatted)

The u-turn on ways to play might support this as being true.

the post talked about Kirby as a toxic figure who absolutely did not value Gameplaying or rules.

and talked about 50% of staff not making it out of the 6 month probation, and 75% leaving within a year. Shocking. if true. I feel sorry for the chap who runs the Exeter store on his own, it's a bonkers business model, for a shop which needs the guy to be running intro games, showing people how to paint, etc.


Of course we will never know as GW don't release that information :)


That set of rumours was on Faeit212 a week or so ago.   Don't know whether it was there first or not.   

Some of it sounded ike fan fiction to me

The annual financial report will be in July, it will only show overall sales figures,   so we will never know for sure how well Age of Sigmar is doing, or whether that exceeds or falls below their expectations.

of course, but he got the knight renegade and flyer set right so it piqued my interest :)

Really doesn't matter now about Kirby, Rountree is the new guy in charge and he actually plays the games. :smile2:

Probably why the big turn around recently. Also, not sure that AoS is doing bad when every AoS tourney(about 30-120 players) has alot of people with the new armies.

Though you did say take it with salt which is wise with any rumor.
For sure, and the focus on specialist games, and actually discounted boxes. Rountree is off to a good start overall imo, Just a shame that AoS happened in the way that it did imo...
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gneisenau on April 26, 2016, 10:16:26 PM
I quite like that big toad thing. The pose is pretty good. Not good enough to buy it at that price though.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Syn Ace on April 27, 2016, 06:17:47 AM
We just had a local game store go out of business. It sold mostly GW product and it was interesting because at its going out of business sale, the owner sold 40K product at a 25% discount and Age of Sigmar was 50% off. Not saying you can draw any conclusions about the overall success of AoS, worldwide, but at least here locally, AoS isn't a runaway hit.

My friend's game store does so-so with AoS but that's because if you sign up for their AoS 'program', he sells AoS minis at 20% off and the AoS buildings at 25%.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on April 27, 2016, 06:57:45 AM
And locally for me,  it's the most popular game,   my local store is a GW,   but the change from 8th to AoS got rid of players who were making that store toxic.   It's a nicer atmosphere.   I'm not sure how popular the new ranges are, but people have been buying stuff to play the game.  Whether that's more than what would have been sold for 8th, I don't know.

From what I have read on forums, rumour sites and Facebook,   it seems it has been a flop in the USA,   and a mix elsewhere,   there are hotspots where it is popular, and places where even mentioning you like it will get a hostile reaction.

Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Finlay on April 27, 2016, 09:24:36 AM
The main barrier for me personally is the new models. They are obviously targeting the 40k market, and the models are just too 40k and OTT for me. although the OTT aesthetic had been coming for years.
If they relased models I loved, i'd buy them to paint and try the game. Ie Adeptus Mechanicus 40k range (and previously Deldar 40k range)



now this is totally off topic but not sure where else to post...
The other thing that interested me was about forgeworld.
the rumour post stated basically
"forgeworld is doing great, with 30k etc. There are discussions to make it orderable to store, and to have the specialist game range orderable through store"

a day earlier I tried to buy some forgeworld rust powder and was absolutely astonished I couldn't have it delivered in store.
Just put it in the truck when it drives from Nottingham to Exeter with your next GW shipment!
absurd business practice.

Postage was only 0.60. If it had been a couple of pounds I wouldn't have bought the powder.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on April 27, 2016, 11:47:57 AM
Yeah, I had problems getting my Dread Saurian delivered to store.   They would surely save on shipping costs by doing so, since it goes in with all the GW orders to store for that week.

I think Specialist Games will probably be available in store anyway, the announcement implied it would be staff moving from FW, implying that it is autonomous in the same sense as FW and BL.  Blood bowl was at the same toy fair we saw Lost Patrol and Battle for Vedros, so I think that is a probability that Specialist Games will have a wider availability than FW.

The bit that mentioned FW going to store also mentioned them increasing production.  There hasn't been any rumours of building work on the site, so that would have to be by making changes to existing space.  Probably wouldn't be too hard to check if FW had been advertising for production staff to see if there is credibility in that rumour.

FW stuff being sold directly in store has been rumoured for as long as plastic sisters and plastic thunderhawk.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Syn Ace on April 27, 2016, 06:53:50 PM
Getting Forgeworld in the States is so expensive. I would have thought a production facility here would have been successful. If the prices were a bit more reasonable and you didn't have to pay for international shipping, I would have bought a ton of stuff from them. But I've only done 3 orders in all the years they've been around. Looked at the site plenty of times and wanted to order, but couldn't bring myself to do it.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on April 27, 2016, 09:28:13 PM
And here's me thinking FW shipping was expensive here in the UK.   I got free shipping having ordered it while at their one came only Warhammer World store, and they didn't have one in stock that day.   I tend to go in with friends to get an order that qualifies for free postage, or wait an awful long time

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Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Xathrodox86 on April 28, 2016, 11:19:05 AM
This podcast might interest you. ;)

http://heelanhammer.com/onlythefaithful/
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Finlay on April 28, 2016, 11:38:10 AM
And here's me thinking FW shipping was expensive here in the UK.   I got free shipping having ordered it while at their one came only Warhammer World store, and they didn't have one in stock that day.   I tend to go in with friends to get an order that qualifies for free postage, or wait an awful long time

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yes, I had stupidly forgotten abvout the rest of the world. Discussions about FW shipping obviously more impactful for them. still think you should be able to get them delivered to GW stores for free in UK though...
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Mogsam on April 28, 2016, 08:27:00 PM
It's the fluff that kills it for me. I want to play with my army from Luccini or whatever, not the space marines from space land.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on April 28, 2016, 11:15:59 PM
Haha, well that's fair enough. The new aesthetics certainly aren't for everyone.

I personally like the Stormcast and have collected a basic force of them.(SKS's Stormcast would destroy me though in both military might and paint skill :-D)

They make me think of Dark Souls, Diablo and God of War. Massive knights going to battle against the odds in strange and eldritch realms against the hordes of hell.

I think GW shouldn't of focused on making them all so massive, though. Should have mixed in core units that would better fit a Empire or Bretonnian style like these guys:

http://hyruletotalwar.wikia.com/wiki/Triforce_Vanguard


In other news, new Ogors look to be on the horizon with a leak confirmation by Lady Atia.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on April 29, 2016, 12:23:57 AM
And locally for me,  it's the most popular game,   my local store is a GW,   but the change from 8th to AoS got rid of players who were making that store toxic.   It's a nicer atmosphere.   



Not too familiar with the quoting part. Hopefully I got it right.
I just wanted to add that at our local GW, the manager (who is a friend) had basically said that WHFB was dead in the water from a fiscal point of view. Product was not moving and the regulars made the enviroment quite negative as well as very little in store purchases.
I'm not dissing the group as they are friends and we went to a lot of tournaments together - loads of fun - but the fantasy side of GW stagnant.
My own armies were always fluff armies and as such, I walked away with sportsman awards but never a victory. I wanted to field the models I liked but to do so made for a predictable end.
I have yet to try a battle with AOS but I'm looking forward to fielding the stuff I want with a good mixture of old and new models. I miss my old crew and the gaming nights and I thought the managers would miss them but to my surprise, they were happy to have them gone to reduce the negative environment.
I'm not saying any of this to insult anyone, just describing our neck of the woods
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Sharkbelly on April 29, 2016, 04:18:44 AM
I can't emphasize enough how having 14 armies, updated on average once every 5 years, with around a dozen kits or more per army, must have been very expensive as far as holding costs are concerned. For this reason alone, I can see that the decision to move in a new direction was justified.

Now, getting back on topic:

There's these pieces of artwork from the new book:

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-uJzUd_7zl0k/VyIsCIyAHVI/AAAAAAABCXo/jRPDBh3n0ek69gSh1BMyWaNvl7WkQMIuwCKgB/s1600/20160428_145233.jpg)

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-AlrP5adoD-4/VyIsCQajXRI/AAAAAAABCXs/NHgZvDIEUIcc6zxWo9fvKJDiIBpGktuTACKgB/s1600/20160428_144842.jpg)

Who is the Gutlord? What is his golden horde?
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on April 29, 2016, 07:28:04 AM
@Artoban's ghost,

Good to hear your fluff-heavy armies are getting a breath of fresh air from the competition scene.

Here's hoping your first AoS battle goes well! :::cheers:::


@Sharkbelly, 

Yeah, factoring in that those armies made 1% profit each...

Anyway, can't say who the Gutlord is but the lastest novel had a gigantic Ogor warlord and Ogors using massive Ironwall shields. Betting we might see a giant Ogor mini and the ironguts get massive shields in the rule updates.

Also, nice to see the gnoblars and goblins are in the book.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Ursa Doom on April 29, 2016, 09:05:33 AM
It's the fluff that kills it for me. I want to play with my army from Luccini or whatever, not the space marines from space land.

This is one of the main reasons I don't like Age of Sigmar as a setting. I have no interest in playing in a setting that looks like if He-man was written by Michael Moorcock high on opium. I would have liked it better if they had decided that the Warhammer world wasn't destroyed, if it was just Sigmar starting an all out war in the realm of the gods and he took the fight to Chaos with his reversed Chaos Warriors.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on April 29, 2016, 09:46:29 AM
Haha, well that's fair enough. The new aesthetics certainly aren't for everyone.

I personally like the Stormcast and have collected a basic force of them.(SKS's Stormcast would destroy me though in both military might and paint skill :-D)

You give me too much credit Baron!
Besides the Starter set and a part of the expansion set now complete and 2 heroes I don't have much of a force yet.
But thank you for the comment on my painting skill!
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on April 30, 2016, 09:54:44 AM
Reboxed ghouls next week and then the Silver tower game. According to Darnok on Warseer.
Also rumors of an online Summer Campaign for AoS with a evolving map thing.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on April 30, 2016, 05:32:17 PM
A new summer campaign could be a huge boost potentially. Even if the results where lackluster, the last few campaigns they ran were fun to play in.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on May 07, 2016, 11:27:37 AM
Those campaign rumors sound awesome! Here's hoping there's alot of truth to them. :biggriin:


Oh, and AoS Heroquest is almost here.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/690078.page

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=473160586214073&id=452117934985005&refid=17&_ft_=top_level_post_id.473160586214073%3Atl_objid.473160586214073&__tn__=%2As
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on May 07, 2016, 03:37:55 PM
Those campaign rumors sound awesome! Here's hoping there's alot of truth to them. :biggriin:


Oh, and AoS Heroquest is almost here.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/690078.page

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=473160586214073&id=452117934985005&refid=17&_ft_=top_level_post_id.473160586214073%3Atl_objid.473160586214073&__tn__=%2As

I'll start a new topic for it as the teaser is out also!
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on May 09, 2016, 11:43:24 AM
This is looking really nice.   I'll have to wait until payday though
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on May 14, 2016, 10:34:29 AM
https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/784

Besides rumors of a big campaign that will be affected by player victories and added to the fluff,  Atia's "ravens"(that pic made me jump  :icon_redface:) said they'd be new releases for the Sylvaneths.  This was confirmed recently with these pics:

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Interesting pic

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From Warhammer Fest - pic taken by HeelanHammer on Twitter

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CiZwYPvWEAAtVZr.jpg)


Edit: Could someone please put the huge pic posted earlier on this page into spoiler tags. Thanks :)

Good to see the Life realm getting more focus rather than it's previous punching bag status.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on May 17, 2016, 06:03:39 AM
https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/811#disqus_thread

Looks like Specialist games got Mordheim in the works. The ongoing expansions to AoS are also quite interesting, a 4-5 year storyline is quite nice. :smile2:

Also, not a big bloodbowl fan but I got my fingers crossed for the Bretonnia team to show up! :-D

Latest Silver Tower hero model expansion:

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Next week's box set containing the knight Venator, slaughter priest, auric rune master and Tzeentch sorceror is $55 €45 £35. That is just under half the price of buying them individually. Not bad!

(http://www.spikeybits.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/13249485_10153683726458546_1402401739_n.jpg)


now that is a discount
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Finlay on May 17, 2016, 05:17:57 PM
It costs £70 to buy four hero's separately??
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on May 17, 2016, 06:16:56 PM
Gotta love the new discount trend. :-D (quite a few things have been lowering in price, actually)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on May 19, 2016, 02:42:19 PM
New rumours for the coming time from Atia

https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/784

Quote
summer campaign

-taking place in realm of life
-your battle results will be logged at a GW Web Station (the computer you order from when at a GW Store) to prevent skewing results like Eye of Terror did
-it will shape the setting when they write up future campaign books

general's handbook

-units have a model count cap (max 10 models, or 20 models, etc. depends on the unit)
-you can only add models in "groups" (no points for individual models. example: add 5 liberators to your unit for X points)
-book will contain points for all models, and they'll be included in battletomes going forward (i don't know if it's definitive, i couldn't tell if he assumed that was what's going to happen or if he was told by studio guys)
-army organization is a mix of force org from 40k and the point-tiers from fantasy. for every X points in a game, you can have up to Y heros/wizards/monsters, etc.
-in Match Play, there's the "Rule of 1s", in that 1s always fail, limit named characters to 1 per army, and units you summoned cannot summon other units that turn
-weapon upgrades in units won't cost additional points.
-some missions in the book that are styled like LotR games, where you recreate a major battle with each player bringing an army determined by the rules, and such missions will be included in battletomes.
-narrative will have a lot of cool stuff to add to your games. magic items for your heroes to wield, new Path of Glory for all armies, new missions to run, etc.

future models

-in the general's handbook, there looks to be new sylvaneth models shown. i would take this with a grain of salt, as they could be very well done conversions, but from what i heard, there are models of aelfs whose limbs are turning into branches and plants, and new updated treemen (not treelords, the treemen who are bigger than branchwraiths but smaller than treelords)
-concept art shown of allariel riding what looks to be a giant rhino beetle? sounds interesting, possible future model? only time will tell
-Slaanesh is not dead. Models are supposedly finished and they're waiting to get things ready (box art, artwork for future books, production, finding a time to include in the story, etc.) studios rarely release models the second they are done, there's a lot of prep work behind the scenes.

sales numbers

-. AoS is now roughly 30% of sales. 40k is still outperforming by a large margin, but AoS numbers are healthy. what to take away from this is that AoS will continue forward, it's here to stay, there's no plans to go backwards on it.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on May 19, 2016, 03:10:24 PM
That 30% of sales disagrees with what other rumours have said, where it's bombed big time.   Which could mean 40k is suffering even more.   

We'll have more evidence by the end of July when the annual financial report is out. 

I'm more inclined to believe the 30% than the totally bombed.   The 40k and AoS facebook pages went live the same day,   AoS currently is on 11000 likes, and 40k is on 20000 likes.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on May 19, 2016, 06:34:06 PM
Indeed, the close popularity to 40k in such a short amount of time really speaks well for the game. The announcement of a 4-5 storyline continuation also shows they have confidence in the new setting's appeal.

Really the farther they go from the bad launch of the game and more they develop AoS in lore, models, spin-offs and rules the better off it will be.

@SKS, nice new avatar!
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Ursa Doom on May 19, 2016, 07:12:50 PM
Wouldn't that 30% also include the old WHFB stock they have been selling off?
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Syn Ace on May 19, 2016, 08:14:33 PM
Who knows -- they never give detailed sales breakdowns of the different categories to the public.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on May 19, 2016, 08:18:37 PM
Most likely, they no doubt put it all under fantasy. Not sure how much a boost to sales that'd be, though. I'd imagine you only the Tomb Kings and Bretonnian lines saw significant sales.

Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on May 20, 2016, 01:29:02 PM
From Atia --

Specialist Games:
- Blood Bowl. The first 2 teams are finished. First six teams will be Humans, Orks, Dwarfs, Elfs, Skaven and Nurgle.
- First expansion will have 7 new teams, Star Players and League Rules.
- They may do 3D pits.
- Adeptus Titanicus. 2nd SG. Set during the HH, Titans vs Titans. 8mm. Infantry, tanks, fliers will come later via expansions. Xenos too.
- The Warlord is finished.
- Necromunda and Mordheim confirmed. Keep in mind there is alot of stuff to do, they can't release all at once.
AoS:
- They admit they have done errors with the AoS launch. They want to improve, and listen to feedback.
- They are really motivated and already have new story arcs for the next 4-5 years.
- Sylvaneth will get their battletome. Alarielle's beetle looks soooo cute.
- Summer will focuse on the Realm of Life.
- Sylvaneth, Slaanesh, Tzeentch, Aelfs, Skaven, ... there is so much cool stuff to come!
- Forgeworld will support AoS, 40k and 30k. New Fimir character done.
- The Khorne dragon is done, will get a lord as rider. Rivals Smaug!!
- They want to give Chaos Dwarfs and Fimir a new spin and place in AoS.
- More AoS Character series stuff one the way!
- Warhammer Quest is supposed to get future support, even more if it sells well.
- From what I heard, people really really enjoyed the game there.

Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Finlay on May 20, 2016, 03:44:51 PM
there's pics of the Fimir character around, looks awesome.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Ursa Doom on May 21, 2016, 02:45:01 PM
Most likely, they no doubt put it all under fantasy. Not sure how much a boost to sales that'd be, though. I'd imagine you only the Tomb Kings and Bretonnian lines saw significant sales.

Well, I bought a Steamtank last year just in case. I imagine other people also buying a bunch of stuff just in case.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Sharkbelly on May 23, 2016, 01:27:20 AM
I think a lot of people did. I know when the rumors of AoS started I bought up stuff to finish a few projects: siege equipment, high elves, etc.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on June 07, 2016, 03:47:52 AM
Well it looks like the campaign will be starting soon. Really excited to see what happens. :-D

https://m.facebook.com/GWWarhammerAgeofSigmar/photos/a.452227281640737.1073741828.452117934985005/483120501884748/?type=3&refid=17&_ft_=top_level_post_id.483120501884748%3Atl_objid.483120501884748

Here's some rumors:

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Alright guys, I know I'm no rumormonger so you don't have to believe me but here are some news:

- The AoS rule book with points will have official 6 scenarios, points for everything, including Tomb Kings etc. It will cost 20 euros and is huge. It's coming out end of June or July.

- Alarielle is not on a giant beetle, she's flying above it. She's huge, Nagash's size.

- A new set of collecting boxes are coming for AoS: Around 20 euros for a "ready to play" set. For example: 5 Liberators vs 5 Blood Warriors, etc. I forgot if they have paint in it too or not, but they will have scenarios and rules, everything to be played right away and initiate new players.

That's all I have for now!

Confirmation on path to glory:

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What I am really interested in, is the Path to Glory type campaign system, that's rumoured to be in the Generals Handbook :-)
You can buy it from BL now. I'm pretty sure it will be exactly the same - a re-print.

Actually it wont be. I was talking with our regional manager for GW and about a month ago they had a sales meeting at the US HQ where all the managers were allowed to look through the General's Handbook for about 5-10 min.

One of the things he saw was that for Path of Glory, while the basic rules are more or less the same, the system has been expanded to include every faction. So it now functions more like an RPG-ish campaign where non-Chaos armies can also grow, gain unit bonuses, and empower their general.

New Sylvaneths artwork, the treefolk are through being punching-bags and are on the warpath:

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More artwork - links via Lordkane and Lastlostboy on www.gw-fanworld.net

(http://pre09.deviantart.net/ea3c/th/pre/i/2016/153/7/1/spite_revenants_vs_crypt_flayers___warhammer_by_ketka-da4pg6k.jpg)

(http://img02.deviantart.net/d84c/i/2016/154/7/c/alarielle_vs_beetle___warhammer_by_ketka-da4t40h.jpg)

Source: http://ketka.deviantart.com/art/Spite-Revenants-vs-Crypt-Flayers-Warhammer-612567596

http://www.warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=228232&d=1465205413

Cool stuff all round! (Oh, not sure if mentioned but a death silver tower expansion is due in December via rumors)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on June 08, 2016, 04:08:56 PM
let's see what will happen :)

this surely will be the start for the summer campaign
(https://scontent-amt2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s526x395/13325597_483120501884748_3798650062615440213_n.jpg?oh=3e59fdf1463124821fe31c27b2128c73&oe=57C3C9FA)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Sig on June 08, 2016, 11:20:00 PM
What happened to their graphic designers? That looks like a promotional poster for a bad pulp movie. GW used to do much better than that.

I'm interested to see if they can make money off this new IP with games like they did with the old one and SotHR, Dark Omen and now W:TW.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on June 09, 2016, 03:56:40 AM
That's kind of the point. Someone just took the Stormcast vs minotaur artwork and stylized it to give off a 300 vibe.

https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fs-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com%2F736x%2F10%2F1e%2F2f%2F101e2f5e7d61d82d6a22aa2cf5507ddb.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pinterest.com%2Fpin%2F252272016605670700%2F&docid=j8x9dwPa7c8drM&tbnid=m8mhXOlqcKCiXM%3A&w=736&h=374&hl=en-US&client=ms-android-att-us&bih=335&biw=640&ved=0ahUKEwj_xqW8hJrNAhUT7mMKHU54B2oQMwgcKAAwAA&iact=mrc&uact=8

Not sure if this IP will be able to match TW warhammer,  only thing that's going to beat that would be a LotR TW, fantasy-wise. Beating mark of chaos would be a more suitable goal for now.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on June 11, 2016, 02:13:10 PM
Probably old news but I was just talking to the local GW manager and she was saying that the story arch for the realms will be influenced by the upcoming campaign. You will be able to register and I store or offsite and log the results. The end calculations will be tied to future fluff.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on June 16, 2016, 02:40:23 AM
Hmm, well my last post got deleted by that server issue so here I go again:

Indeed, the upcoming campaign will affect the storyline as it will see the closing of the Realmgate wars series and make a new storyline depending on whether Order, Chaos, Death or Destruction wins. rumors say it'll be q battle over the realm of life which is already in turmoil by Nurgle's forces.

The general handbook is rumored to be out by June 22 and it's said stores that host the event getting theirs early.

Other rumors are Aelves and Slaanesh releases this year.

There's also battleboards and bases for AoS.

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2016/06/gw-rumors-upcoming-age-of-sigmar-hobby-products.html

Only other thing is that there's been semi-confirmation of Mordheim by specialist games, unknown whether it'll be classic of be in the AoS setting. (My bets are on the latter)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: MrDWhitey on June 16, 2016, 01:54:49 PM
I've heard the General's book is July 22nd and not June, but I very much hope the person saying that was wrong.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on June 16, 2016, 03:20:46 PM
I would expect preorder on the 15th, released on the 22nd.   Of July.

Sent from my thingamajig via wadyamacallit

Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on June 26, 2016, 09:49:15 PM
Sylvaneth stuff should be on preorder next week.  Should start seeing pics within the next couple of days.


Also,  expect loads of info on The General's Compendium,  as that stuff is hitting Facebook
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on June 26, 2016, 09:55:35 PM
Sylvaneth stuff should be on preorder next week.  Should start seeing pics within the next couple of days.


Also,  expect loads of info on The General's Compendium,  as that stuff is hitting Facebook

Saw that stuff about the Generals comp.. didn't look at it in detail yet though.

Stupid app isn't downloading my WD issue so didn't see that yet..
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on June 26, 2016, 10:59:11 PM
Looks like an admin got hold of a copy of the Generals Handbook over at the TGA.community
A little bit of a sneak peek.
Not sure about links here so just search 'The Grand Alliance Community.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on June 27, 2016, 12:16:38 AM
Yeah, found out about TGA two days ago, wish I knew about it sooner..

It and Dakkadakka are really going over any leaks they can get their hands on. The Bretonnia legacy point leaks are nice to hear about. :happy:

The book is really looking to be an amazing deal for all the content it'll have to improve the game. I just wonder if the app will get points as well? It'd make sense to keep updated on future releases.

Also, feel free to put up links, Artoban's Ghost. I don't think there's a rule against on-topic links.

[Edit]: link to the TGA handbook leak:
http://www.tga.community/forums/topic/1436-i-have-the-generals-handbook-ask-me-anything/?page=1

Points compilation images by Mymearan from Dakkadakka:

http://m.imgur.com/a/gThul
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on June 27, 2016, 12:48:24 AM
Thanks Baron!
I am really looking forward to getting my hands on that book. Finally I have a hobby room done. Just need paints and brushes again.
Lots of ideas for order and destruction, but I'll start with order.
I'll work on the link thing but as I'm 1 step up from a Luddite, that may be a challenge :)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on June 27, 2016, 12:52:48 AM
Haha, just edited in the link. :biggriin:

Best of luck on getting your forces of Order and Destruction done! Would like to see them on the site's painting section if you're so inclined. :-)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on June 27, 2016, 05:00:47 PM
just picked this up from FB

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/13509005_1820804738162556_6168114327926048389_n.jpg?oh=ccbe25a4a3dd527429714127bb4e67a3&oe=57C12190&__gda__=1477341376_22e7b4e34f417ee08ae8d56370269532)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t31.0-8/13528523_1820804744829222_137610229836009515_o.jpg)

From what I can see those look awesome!
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on June 27, 2016, 05:14:03 PM
Well they are certainly fleshing out he wood elf faction.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on June 27, 2016, 05:48:44 PM
Wouldn't it be barking out instead of fleshing out? :-D

They do indeed look great. I really like the Kurnoth hunters.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on June 27, 2016, 06:01:36 PM
Well they are certainly fleshing out he wood elf faction.

Not really.  Sylvaneth are their own faction now,   the Wanderers are the other faction that got split from the old stuff.   

And the two factions aren't on friendly terms.   The Wanderers fled to Azyr before Sigmar closed the realm off during the Age of Chaos.   Alarielle hasn't forgiven them for abandoning  her and Ghyran to suffer at the forces of Nurgle.   She went into hiding,  but the Stormcasts found her, but in inadvertently led Nurgle in as well.  They fought Nurgle together, and she has now decided to join the war, scattering the realm of life with acorns to grow an army.

The Wanderers may have returned to Ghyran now the Realmgates are open again, but they're not necessarily welcome.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on June 27, 2016, 06:14:40 PM
just picked this up from FB

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/13509005_1820804738162556_6168114327926048389_n.jpg?oh=ccbe25a4a3dd527429714127bb4e67a3&oe=57C12190&__gda__=1477341376_22e7b4e34f417ee08ae8d56370269532)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t31.0-8/13528523_1820804744829222_137610229836009515_o.jpg)

From what I can see those look awesome!

There are a load of better pics on Facebook, but I can't work out how to link them here
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on June 27, 2016, 06:40:51 PM
Open the picture on the overlay thingy in fb, right click and select copy picture location. then add that between the img tags here
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on June 28, 2016, 08:40:30 AM
(https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13501739_10154254158788058_1663495066341591709_n.jpg?oh=819bb2058c9054b17c12c787a0eae972&oe=57F896C2)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on June 28, 2016, 08:47:12 AM
And more pics I found yesterday on FB

(https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p240x240/13537542_10210343714335928_8994035793559127234_n.jpg?oh=9c6d2d18121e99842caf7d45cf4ad2ae&oe=57EF312A)

(https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13510841_10210343714295927_7897107435939009504_n.jpg?oh=70a461e2b1772ae2776a8305fc767fb3&oe=57E8F2D5)

(https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13439221_10210343714375929_7816402275861818057_n.jpg?oh=1dfe5231435653f83afa198ccd0f12f5&oe=57FDD791)

(https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13494746_10210343715335953_687769186212421934_n.jpg?oh=add8dc2d891edb5832dbb72111024405&oe=57FF1A89)

(https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13524369_10210343715495957_2502167300239236897_n.jpg?oh=916429954de7b39bb3b44c9b9462bc9e&oe=57FEA8E4)

(https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13566978_10210343715655961_5078477739055768764_n.jpg?oh=7c530aa5224a8b12fac2d8b31f315073&oe=57F86F49)

(https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13508846_10210343716135973_8082951851946538795_n.jpg?oh=43b494b3431d34904f71f6d5ac4ab9d3&oe=57F62BD7)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on June 28, 2016, 10:53:59 AM
they really look good and even the paint job is good, though the colour choice maybe a bit bright for my taste
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on June 28, 2016, 12:17:22 PM
I'm liking the revenants and the hunters.
@ SKS - agree the colours are bit bright
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: RE.Lee on June 28, 2016, 04:46:51 PM
Wood Elves have Tyranids and Dreadnaughts now? ;)

Allarielle looks nice, though I'd prefer her to be on foot.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Ursa Doom on June 29, 2016, 11:49:45 PM
These are probably the best Age of Sigmar models I have seen so far. I might even consider getting some of these now. I love the tree revenants and bee hive.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on June 30, 2016, 03:30:38 AM
Found this at Dakkadakka, pretty interesting:

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and another page (from Adeptus Astartes on facebook),

(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13532893_653042258186484_2597875642045687658_n.jpg?oh=83f4a25bb3a6b2452522105a526e321d&oe=580336F4)

I also find it funny that with the new high fantasy setting they're using mundane insects(though spites could be sprites in insect form), in the old low fantasy setting it would have been sprites with their daemonic fantasy appearance.

Anyway, on a very rare occasion that I decide to dive into Warseer, I found some fluff tidbits on the new cities we're fighting over (my compliments to ad_hoc for the info):

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?418153-Summer-Campaign-and-General-s-Handbook/page15

Also, MongooseMatt gave his review on the new book as well:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/695171.page
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Xathrodox86 on June 30, 2016, 09:50:47 AM
My foot fetish sense is tingling. Alarielle has some sexy legs! :icon_redface:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Ursa Doom on July 01, 2016, 01:55:35 AM
Yeah, you can tell she hits the gym.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on July 02, 2016, 09:12:13 AM
I'm just happy she dispels those notions that GW can't make nice female models. You know it's a good model when the worst complaint is "I don't like her hat". :-D

Wood Elves have Tyranids and Dreadnaughts now? ;)

Allarielle looks nice, though I'd prefer her to be on foot.

Alot of people want just the beetle, so you could either look for her seperate on ebay or buy the kit and sell off the beetle.

If I'm not mistaken you're also a Tomb kings player. You could try a scarab conversion for the beetle as well. ;)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Finlay on July 02, 2016, 09:50:49 AM
Quite like those!

Maybe because I didn't previously play the faction.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Sig on July 06, 2016, 05:38:29 AM
Not a fan of most of it, not horrible but not my taste. Love the massive beetle though, amazing.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Xathrodox86 on July 06, 2016, 10:13:41 AM
I'm just happy she dispels those notions that GW can't make nice female models. You know it's a good model when the worst complaint is "I don't like her hat". :-D

Wood Elves have Tyranids and Dreadnaughts now? ;)

Allarielle looks nice, though I'd prefer her to be on foot.

Alot of people want just the beetle, so you could either look for her seperate on ebay or buy the kit and sell off the beetle.

If I'm not mistaken you're also a Tomb kings player. You could try a scarab conversion for the beetle as well. ;)

That's true. She's probably the best female model ever made by GW, right along with Lelith Hesperax. :)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Sharkbelly on July 07, 2016, 12:14:02 PM
Ooh, the scarab Beatle idea is very cool...
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on July 11, 2016, 02:39:17 PM
Looks like another Battletome up for preorder this week:  Bonesplitterz   (Savage Orcs)

(https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13606693_1056762791038563_7635307243179264789_n.jpg?oh=da2965fcfab8abc721c208830b69d143&oe=57F17269)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on July 11, 2016, 04:48:48 PM
I wonder if it will be repacks then or a few new models as well
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on July 11, 2016, 06:29:43 PM
Judging by what units are in the General's Handbook, possibly a new hero, but everything I'd expect to be re-packaged stuff.

Have also heard there is a new very small £20 starter set and some cheap push fit boxes for Khorne Bloodbound and Stormcast Eternals

The "Storm of Sigmar" set contains 3 blood warriors, 5 reavers, 2 retributors, 3 liberators.     I'm guessing the other push-fit kits are the same models separately sold
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on July 11, 2016, 08:25:59 PM
Darn, I was too late to talk about the savage orruks but I was hoping I could beat you to the Storm of Sigmar news. :-P

Anyway, Dakkadakka has more pics of the release. (Couldn't quote it)

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/2580/690078.page

Also, MongooseMatt did a review of the All-gates book. :-)

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/696239.page

Besides that, heavy hints are being dropped for a Ogor release and Tzeentch.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on July 11, 2016, 09:30:42 PM
From reading the General's Handbook in store last week, we could see what the new Sylvaneth units and formations would be, but we also spotted that Bonesplitterz had what we think are new unit names and battalions.   And along with that also Beastclaw Raiders - which look like they will be Viking Ice Ogres, but all done using existing models, like Flesh-Eater Courts, where they created an alternative build out of the box
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on July 12, 2016, 12:20:54 AM
Viking Ogors would seem like a good way to explore the northern territories of the beast realm. The Savannah parts are already shown so this could be GW's plan to make a new map like they did for the realm of life. Just my thoughts, though.

This was recently put on Facebook to announce the savage orruks. So close to beating the leaks. :biggriin:

https://m.facebook.com/GWWarhammerAgeofSigmar/photos/a.452227281640737.1073741828.452117934985005/494998207363644/?type=3&source=48&__tn__=E

More stuff leaked as well like 4 battleplans for the Storm of Sigmar kit and more savage orruks leaks.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/2640/690078.page#8769597

Edit: interesting to see how much demands for female models popped up on this FB post:

https://m.facebook.com/GWWarhammerAgeofSigmar/photos/a.452227281640737.1073741828.452117934985005/494868744043257/?type=3

Hopefully GW gives it some considerations. Big market potential there.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on July 12, 2016, 09:57:42 AM
Viking Ice Ogres!
Gotta love the sound of that! I'm already imagining a themed army built around that idea :)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on July 12, 2016, 10:18:50 AM
Dakka Dakka seems to be down for maintenance.   But I'm guessing the pics are the same as on Spikeybits

http://www.spikeybits.com/2016/07/youll-never-guess-what-gws-new-board-game-is.html

(http://www.spikeybits.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/13625252_10153808513998546_296581802_n.jpg)

(http://www.spikeybits.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Copy-of-13652580_10153808514013546_834015068_n-1.jpg)

(http://www.spikeybits.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/13652781_10153808514068546_252645790_n.jpg)

(http://www.spikeybits.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Copy-of-Copy-of-Copy-of-13652781_10153808514068546_252645790_n.jpg)

(http://www.spikeybits.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Copy-of-13652781_10153808514068546_252645790_n.jpg)

Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on July 12, 2016, 10:53:28 AM
Very nice, good price for all those models.

Hopefully they do this with other armies as well. I know Fyreslayers vs Orruks would be a popular set.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on July 14, 2016, 08:52:10 AM
Edit: Nvm, thought that was a different deal. Was just a different title. :icon_redface:

Edit edit: Nvm, wasn't mistaken, there's also Easy to Build sets as well.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on July 17, 2016, 06:14:31 AM
Wellofeternity put up pictures of the new Savage Orruks artwork. Last one really emphasizes their new role as monster hunters.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/696724.page#8779373
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on July 18, 2016, 03:02:13 PM
Spikeybits have some info on next weeks preorders

(http://www.spikeybits.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/13694982_10153826058683546_1670671727_n-Copy.jpg)

No info as far as I can find on what the 5 Start Collecting boxes are.  At least not yet.    But finally the AoS Realm of Battle boards are coming
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on July 18, 2016, 07:41:14 PM
Worry not! Dakkadakka's got the info you seek. (Thanks to the good Lady Atia)

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AOS: SHATTERED DOMINION: 65 & 40MM ROUND 26E

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START COLLECTING! KHORNE BLOODBOUND 65E

BATTLETOME: DOMINION OF CHAOS (HB) 26E

START COLLECTING! SYLVANETH 65E

START COLLECTING! FLESH-EATER COURTS 65E

START COLLECTING! IRONJAWZ 65E

START COLLECTING! STORMCAST ETERNALS 65E

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More talk about what's in the releases as well:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/2760/690078.page
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Ursa Doom on July 19, 2016, 12:19:37 AM
I might go with one of those Sylvaneth starter boxes later this year.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on July 19, 2016, 12:52:02 AM
I'm interested in both sylvaneth and ironjaw starter sets depending on what's in them. I've been pretty impressed with the sets so far, both 40k and fantasy. Even the armies I don't care about have an interesting selection that's actually, gasp, a decent deal.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Ursa Doom on July 19, 2016, 01:37:43 AM
The Sylvaneth box seems to be a unit of Dryads, a Treelord and a Branchwych.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on July 19, 2016, 01:46:46 AM
Pictures on what's being released:

http://www.miniwars.eu/2016/07/start-collecting.html

@Ursa Doom, planning on making a Sylvaneth force to inhabit the Laurelorn forest next to your Nordland force? :wink:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Ursa Doom on July 19, 2016, 10:28:59 AM
Something like that. I prefer to have them worship a pantheon than just Sigmar, so I want them to be on good terms with Alarielle. It also looks like a very cool army.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on October 15, 2016, 11:18:49 AM
The new Lord-Veritant model is half copied from the Lord-Castellant.

Legs, body part, Back (with the cape) and the Gryph-hound body is the same sprue for both models.
Lord-Veritant:
(https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/600x620/99070218008_StormcastLordVeritant03.jpg)

Lord-Castellant
(https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/600x620/99070218003_StormCastEternalsLordCastellant07.jpg)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on October 22, 2016, 03:32:36 AM

Indeed, they're very similar in appearance as well with both wielding lanterns. On a more interesting note, he does give insight that of the three remaining chambers hisis focused on anti-magic (very useful for the magic-lacking Stormcast). Only Ruination and Auxiliary chambers left.

He's 120 points in matched play, 160 with the Gryph-hound.

Also, some of my favorite Armies on parades I saw on Reddit.

http://m.imgur.com/gallery/z6iEQ

Steampunk Ogres (Click on the picture to see his other photos)

https://m.reddit.com/r/Warhammer/comments/58avf4/armies_on_parade_silver_for_ogres/ (I think Reddit is down right now though, so these might not show up.)

Then there's the announcement of the upcoming grand tournament with rulespack:

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http://warhammerworld.games-workshop.com/age-of-sigmar-grand-tournament-2017/


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Grand Final: 7th/8th October 2017

Welcome to Games Workshop’s Warhammer Age of Sigmar Grand Tournament season. This event is for anyone who enjoys using a canny mix of army selection, canny generalship and good cheer to win games of Warhammer Age of Sigmar. Being crowned the Grand Champion of Warhammer Age of Sigmar at the end of the year is a colossal achievement and worthy of great song and rejoicing.

Only a formidable general will be able to raise trophy belonging to the Grand Champion – Games Workshop’s unique prize we offer only to those who can not only play the game, but do so in the spirit of the Age of Sigmar, and with a well painted army to boot.

Event Essentials:

System: Warhammer : Age of Sigmar

Army Selection: Select an army worth a maximum value of 2,000 Points using the rules and restrictions provided in the Pitched Battle section from the General’s Handbook.

Only Warscrolls and Warscroll Battalions with Pitched Battle Profiles may be used at the Grand Tournament, see the Generals Handbook for details.

This includes Forge World models that have a Pitched Battle Profile.

Note that Allegiance Abilities can and should be used.

 rulespack :

http://warhammerworld.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/Printer-Friendly-AOS-GT-2017-Event-Pack.pdf

Finally, a new rumor is circulating of a new set of premium start collecting boxes for Christmas.

If true, then the rumored Silver Tower expansion has most likely been moved back to be around the middle of next year. The release leak which pointed at a December release was probably out-dated then.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on November 09, 2016, 11:21:26 AM
Holiday mega bundles coming

4 for AoS, 4 for 40K.
Order (Sylvaneth rumored), Chaos (Bloodbound rumord), Destruction (unknown) and Death (unknown)

Source:
http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2016/11/gw-rumors-holiday-mega-bundle.html

Oh yeah this little tidbit in there "It seems also that GW sells currently more AoS products than 40K ones on a worldwide basis." gave a nice comment stream going..
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on November 09, 2016, 06:17:07 PM
Yeah I can see that comment getting some attention.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on November 09, 2016, 09:46:48 PM
but I can see it be true, more and more people are drawn to the ease of getting into AoS with easy rules to start with low cost starting forces in easy to get starter boxes and even an easy way to get into the hobby building and painting with the start up boxes with a few models.
And the 40k community calling out more and more that the rules there are getting more and more and getting bogged down in its massive load.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gneisenau on November 09, 2016, 10:32:08 PM
Also, those "Start Collecting" boxes offer very good discounts - even for those who do not play AoS.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on November 15, 2016, 08:20:35 PM
(https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15055663_544128712450593_5984539193064956211_n.jpg?oh=74f650cc517d8096f30530ad07ab7d01&oe=58C1B5F4)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Darknight on November 15, 2016, 08:26:29 PM
These are very nice - where did you find the pic?
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on November 15, 2016, 09:19:31 PM
AoS FB page
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on November 15, 2016, 10:14:10 PM
Eyeing that stormcast box closely. Who are the two big dudes in the back right hand side. This group combined with warrior priests,flagellants war alter and some firepower s comig to mind.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on November 15, 2016, 10:35:46 PM
Eyeing that stormcast box closely. Who are the two big dudes in the back right hand side. This group combined with warrior priests,flagellants war alter and some firepower s comig to mind.

dracothian guard
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on November 16, 2016, 12:25:33 AM
They look serious! I tried to find them a on the AOS app but couldn't locate them. I guess no pricing available yet. ?
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on November 16, 2016, 09:25:55 AM
They look serious! I tried to find them a on the AOS app but couldn't locate them. I guess no pricing available yet. ?

They are under the subsection of Stormcast "Extremis Chamber" can be build as 4 different types
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Stormcast-Eternals-Dracothian-Guard
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on November 16, 2016, 09:54:15 AM
Just did a little calculation
The SE box are models worth to 276 Euro's and the expectation is the box will sell at 120 Euro (100 pounds) so that is more then 50% saving right there..
(Contents: Celestant-Prime(62), Dracothian Guard(55), Paladins(46), 2x Liberators(2x40), Knight Azyros/Venator) (33)

edit:
Sylvaneth box comes down at 246 worth of models
(Treelord, Drycha, 2x Kurnoth Hunters, 2x Revenants)

Ironjaws box comes down at 256 Euro worth of models
(Aleguzzler Gargant(43), 2x Brutes(2x42), Gore Gruntas(67), Megaboss(34), Weirdnob Shaman(28))

Khorne Bloodbound box comes down at 225 Euro worth of models
(Skar, Aspiring Death Bringer with goreaxe and skullhammer, 1/2 Skullcrushers (3), blood warriors, bloodreavers, wrathmongers) (as far as I can tell)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on November 16, 2016, 02:24:05 PM
I'm going to have to bite the billet and get this. Maybe I can get my son to kick in as a Christmas present although I'm sure he'll want the tau box on the other link. I love the cavalry and will have to fill out this unit but it's a nice start.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on November 18, 2016, 09:15:33 AM
Here is the breakdown from Spikeybits (on BOLS)

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2016/11/gw-new-battleforce-deal-breakdowns.html

Looks like 130 Euro's (2x the start collecting price)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on November 28, 2016, 12:07:15 PM
Looks like the upcoming Tzeentch beastmen boxes will be from the Silver Tower set but with 40k weaponry bits for the Thousand sons release. Hurray for cross-compatibility!  :-D

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Looking at the sprues for the new Thousand Sons stuff, and the Tzaangors look like they're actually an AoS kit with a little sprue thrown in to 40kify them. Seems weird that that isn't mentioned at all, past the mention of CCW and one photo of an axe in white dwarf.
(http://i.imgur.com/ANgOyec.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/114ORrj.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/DRSeBuV.jpg)

Also, news that's getting me really excited, two books are in the works to start off the new wave of novels that are really going to get into the AoS background:

https://joshuamreynolds.wordpress.com/2016/11/23/wip-wednesday-eight-weapons/

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/709440.page

So worth the wait! :)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on December 06, 2016, 11:16:06 PM
Looks like Island of Blood is making a return with a AoS twist to it:

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I'm quite surprised to see this news too, hope this is a good direction because from what I have seen, there is some quick lore on the boxset, name change for the elves, and some other info that I will nitpick to make it short.

Quick lore on the boxset:

" The Dawnspire stands at the edge of the Transient Isles. Immense, drifting islands of black stone hanging in the air above an azure sea, they were once the subject of foul sorceries, a powerful Chaos wizard seeking to bring them crashing down. The mages of the Eldritch Council were able to stop this foul ritual, but not before two of the islands were lost to the depths."

Name changes in the Elf side:
Prince on Gryphon became High Warden
Archmage still Archmage? ( not really sure on the IoB name)
10 Swordmaster
Lothren seaguard became Spireguard
Elliyrian Reavers became Reavers

So this is the info of what I have seen:
- Complete rule to be used in the game ( hopefully there is an update in the warscroll)
-Background narrative as always (again, hopefully we could see the lore of the elves in AoS getting more explanation)
- 2 Warscroll battalion and 2 Pitched Battle Profile, one for each force
- Round and square base for each model
- stated in the last paragraph : "Previously only available in Warhammer Island of BLood, this is another chance to own these superbly detailed and dynamic miniatures." It is stated as "Available while stocks last"

hopefully this helps!

Sounds pretty good. Glad to see the elves getting some attention, they're a really cool army. I bet those Skaven Weapon teams will be selling like hotcakes on the secondary market.

Well, my other IoB box was getting lonely...and you can never have enough elves.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on December 07, 2016, 01:17:15 AM
That was a really good kit. The starter sets are always pretty good, but I think I saw more of those get bought in my local areas then some of the others combined.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on December 07, 2016, 01:33:49 AM
Can always use more sword masters and sea guard and as I have silver helms, reavers would be nice. Pretty good warscroll too. And I can use all the rats with my as yet untouched skaven starter box from an old tournament win for worst army playing/ best sportsmanship 😺
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on December 09, 2016, 06:22:19 PM
on the AoS FB page official announcement of a rebranded Island of Blood:

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Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Noble Korhedron on December 09, 2016, 08:56:55 PM
I don't care what they're trying to pull, I'm not picking up AoS; period. :-( :-( :-(
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on December 09, 2016, 09:32:21 PM
Gaah...must..get...more..money..wallet..burning!

Can always use more sword masters and sea guard and as I have silver helms, reavers would be nice. Pretty good warscroll too. And I can use all the rats with my as yet untouched skaven starter box from an old tournament win for worst army playing/ best sportsmanship 😺

Hey friend, that's the top spot in my book.  :::cheers:::

(Nice cat avatar as well, cats are awesome. :-) )

I don't care what they're trying to pull, I'm not picking up AoS; period. :-( :-( :-(

Good for you, friend. Spend your hobby money on what you love. :wink:

(Besides that means more for the rest of us. :engel:)

[Edit]: I do wonder if this is a way to clear shelf-space for a new starter set. Alot of things are pointing to that old Duardin vs Tzeentch box rumor..
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on December 10, 2016, 12:59:57 AM
(Nice cat avatar as well, cats are awesome. :-) )

Thanks! That cat has the best personality I have come across. We call it fluffy latouche and it is our cardiac cat! I walked out into the hall in the hospital and saw a pic of it for a good home. Looked at the wife and said we must get! And we got. It goes with our other calico that wandered onto the property and we just lost our 16 year old calico. All calicoes but not by choice.
And yes that starter set looks good!


(http://i1376.photobucket.com/albums/ah12/brigadierinc/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_0177_zpscgcakwc9.jpg) (http://s1376.photobucket.com/user/brigadierinc/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_0177_zpscgcakwc9.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on December 10, 2016, 11:14:52 AM
Description (Spire of Dawn) -> 65Euro!

The Dawnspire stands at the edge of the Transient Isles. Immense, drifting islands of black stone hanging in the air above an azure sea, they were once the subject of foul sorceries, a powerful Chaos wizard seeking to bring them crashing down. The mages of the Eldritch Council were able to stop this foul ritual, but not before two of the islands were lost to the depths.

To protect the isles, the Dawnspire was created; housing objects of incredible power, it is protected by the most elite warriors the Transient Isles have ever known. Yet cruel eyes glow in the corners of the realms. fixated on the Dawnspire, intent on harnessing its power for their own dark purpose…

Dawnspire is a fantastic box set filled with Citadel miniatures, with a book telling the story of the Skaven Warlord Ripsnikk’s attempt to take the Dawnspire from the Swifthawk Agents who protect it.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Ursa Doom on December 10, 2016, 10:40:35 PM
It's very cool of GW to bring back that kit. The Gryphon alone is stunning compared to the big lug that Karl Franze rides on.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on December 10, 2016, 11:01:41 PM
Haha, well it fits the riders. One is sleek and deadly while the other one is intimidating and bulky.

Anyway, Pre-orders are up and stock is selling fast (on the AoS battle forces too!) so don't miss out!

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Age-of-Sigmar-Spire-of-Dawn-ENG

(Nice cat avatar as well, cats are awesome. :-) )

Thanks! That cat has the best personality I have come across. We call it fluffy latouche and it is our cardiac cat! I walked out into the hall in the hospital and saw a pic of it for a good home. Looked at the wife and said we must get! And we got. It goes with our other calico that wandered onto the property and we just lost our 16 year old calico. All calicoes but not by choice.
And yes that starter set looks good!

That's great, my family has a long history of collecting strays and other unfortunate animals and giving them a good home. Haha, truly they deserve that kindness, they always give you as much love as you give them and the memories are always worth it. :)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on December 12, 2016, 04:33:56 PM
(https://scontent-frt3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15400551_555878551275609_981991759324420090_n.jpg?oh=f92065ac7d3a18d63ad832e36e163887&oe=58B257D7)

Well, that went fast...
You guys must really like those Skaven and Highborn models, because that set sold out in less than a day. Don't worry, we're making more, so none of you need to miss out on getting a set.

Select 'Email Me' to get an email notification as soon as it's back in stock.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on December 20, 2016, 11:07:16 AM
well definitely Tzeentch incoming for AoS

from the W AoS FB page https://www.facebook.com/WarhammerTVteam/videos/304185619976423/

got a few stills form the last seconds of the vid
(followup post in 40k soon)

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(https://scontent-amt2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15589682_1098566080251895_3661763375921310732_n.jpg?oh=d41aba977ee1def4a3a69cea1c6be81c&oe=58AEC44B)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on December 20, 2016, 02:31:39 PM
They're going to be chucking out sneaky peaks of the new Disciples of Tzeentch battletome on tomorrow's Warhammer TV at 1pm GMT
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Noble Korhedron on December 20, 2016, 03:12:08 PM
What's Warhammer TV? GW's new YouTube channel?
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on December 20, 2016, 03:58:39 PM
What's Warhammer TV? GW's new YouTube channel?

It's a Youtube channel also, but in this regard we refer to the Twitch channel on which the broadcast live stuff
https://www.twitch.tv/warhammer
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Noble Korhedron on December 20, 2016, 06:13:01 PM
O.K, thanks; I'm actually on Twitch, so I'll have to reset my password and subscribe to it....
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on December 21, 2016, 01:15:25 PM
- new battletome will be all of Tzeentch!
- path to glory table included for Tzeentch
- allegiance table -> dice roll influencing
- 3 sub factions -> Arcanites, Daemons, Mortals
- Own spell lores - Lore of Faith (mortals and arcanites) Lore of Change (Daemons)
- points values in the back of the book (from chat)
- Tzaangor Shaman (on disc) complete warscroll was shown
- Tzaangor Skyfires complete warscroll shown (no picture of model)

will update this post with news as it comes
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on December 21, 2016, 01:20:55 PM
Looking forward to this!
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on December 21, 2016, 01:53:26 PM
that was about it
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on December 21, 2016, 02:15:50 PM
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Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on December 21, 2016, 07:53:07 PM
Well now we know what the Duardin have been battling in the skies of the metal realm..*

Can't wait to see what the Duardin bring to the field. :-D

(*in novels dealing with the realm of metal strange lights are seen high above in the sky. Josh's next book will also focus on a air battle among other things..)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Noble Korhedron on December 21, 2016, 08:21:25 PM
Well now we know what the Duardin have been battling in the skies of the metal realm..*

Can't wait to see what the Duardin bring to the field. :-D

(*in novels dealing with the realm of metal strange lights are seen high above in the sky. Josh's next book will also focus on a air battle among other things..)
So the Duardin are the former Dwarfs, I know the Empire and Brettonia are the 'Free Peoples'(they'd better hope the Tolkien Estate don't sue); what are the other factions/armies known as now?
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on December 21, 2016, 09:45:20 PM
Well there's three types of dwarfs/Duardin: Dispossessed(classic ones), Fyreslayers and Steamhead Duardin.

Elves/Aelves: High elves are divided into the Eldritch Council (their mages and mystical beasts), the Order Draconis(their knight order made of dragon princes riding horses and dragons) and the Swifthawk agents(flying errand boys-er scouts).

Dark elves are called Exiles and are the bad elements in Sigmar's cities like cultists and smugglers(not surprising as they only pay him lip-service and Malerion is their only master): Daughters of Khaine and Darkling Covens are their cult sects, Order Serpentis(their version of a knight order) and Scourge Privateers are pirate smugglers(also where the Order Draconis get their mounts when desperate).

Wood elves are split into Wanderers and the Sylvaneth. Probably would've stayed the same but the elf element abandoned the realm of life when Nurgle's power became too strong and they couldn't weather the diseases. So Alarielle holds a grudge against them for that.

The lizardmen are the Seraphon.

Chaos barbarians are called Mortals and are under "Slaves of Darkness", Beastmen are Brayherds and chaos dwarfs are the Legions of Azgohr.

Orcs are Orruks, Goblins are Grots, Trolls are Troggoths and Ogres are Ogors.

For death it's more of an alternative naming as vampires are called soul-blights but are referred to as vampires as well. (So like what elf and asur was for the Old World)

Also, about the new Tzeentch stuff, I heard in the new Tzeentch fluff that he had his cults infiltrate and grow in the three cities that were fought over in the season campaign and is playing the long game of conquering them through treachery.

Hopefully they don't get as bad as Talabheim was. That place was filthy with Tzeentch cultists. (I guess a underground warp-stone meteor will do that though.)

Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on December 23, 2016, 12:39:18 AM
A bit more from tabletop gamers diary. A favorite of mine.
A note to AOS haters etc. This is a great site that examines pretty much every faction and starts from the beginning in a battle report diary. Wether you hate or love it, it's a great and fun presentation of this game format.

https://ttgamingdiary.wordpress.com/2016/12/21/preview-disciples-of-tzeentch/
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Noble Korhedron on December 23, 2016, 07:50:23 PM
A bit more from tabletop gamers diary. A favorite of mine.
A note to AOS haters etc. This is a great site that examines pretty much every faction and starts from the beginning in a battle report diary. Wether you hate or love it, it's a great and fun presentation of this game format.

https://ttgamingdiary.wordpress.com/2016/12/21/preview-disciples-of-tzeentch/
My biggest problem with AOS is the SEVERE lack of game balance, and the fact that I simpy prefer the Warhammer-style regimental system. If I wanted to quit Fantasy, I would probably just change to WH40K, rather than AOS....
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on December 24, 2016, 05:24:58 AM
Haha, well quite a few people would be willing to argue about the balance but I can't say why you should choose it over Wfb or 40k. It's your hobby, play what you like.  :-)

A bit more from tabletop gamers diary. A favorite of mine.
A note to AOS haters etc. This is a great site that examines pretty much every faction and starts from the beginning in a battle report diary. Wether you hate or love it, it's a great and fun presentation of this game format.

https://ttgamingdiary.wordpress.com/2016/12/21/preview-disciples-of-tzeentch/

Ah, good job posting that. I really need to update the MongooseMatt thread(among many other things..) when I find more time.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on December 24, 2016, 06:19:56 AM
I've generally found the balance to be pretty good. My group is pretty casual of course so we have a bit of a chat about the game before we play but even otherwise I've only had one game that was really unbalanced. Plus for that it was just as much my mistakes playing a part.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Noble Korhedron on December 24, 2016, 03:08:22 PM
I stand by my earlier statement; NO! Period. :-(
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on December 24, 2016, 06:22:02 PM
That's fine, to each their own. There's plenty of different games out there.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: The Peacemaker on December 27, 2016, 11:45:51 PM
A bit more from tabletop gamers diary. A favorite of mine.
A note to AOS haters etc. This is a great site that examines pretty much every faction and starts from the beginning in a battle report diary. Wether you hate or love it, it's a great and fun presentation of this game format.

https://ttgamingdiary.wordpress.com/2016/12/21/preview-disciples-of-tzeentch/

Until they relent and have shooting rules that are not 100% true line of sight then there will always be haters. Its the single most biggest flaw in the game so far. .....open play, points, imbalance = meh compared to 360degree shooting anything as long as you can see 1 piece of it.
Doesn't even have to be complex shooting rules. Just some basic mechanics.


AoS is a great casual game. Maybe the best.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Noble Korhedron on December 27, 2016, 11:56:29 PM
A bit more from tabletop gamers diary. A favorite of mine.
A note to AOS haters etc. This is a great site that examines pretty much every faction and starts from the beginning in a battle report diary. Wether you hate or love it, it's a great and fun presentation of this game format.

https://ttgamingdiary.wordpress.com/2016/12/21/preview-disciples-of-tzeentch/ (https://ttgamingdiary.wordpress.com/2016/12/21/preview-disciples-of-tzeentch/)

Until they relent and have shooting rules that are not 100% true line of sight then there will always be haters. Its the single most biggest flaw in the game so far. .....open play, points, imbalance = meh compared to 360degree shooting anything as long as you can see 1 piece of it.
Doesn't even have to be complex shooting rules. Just some basic mechanics.


AoS is a great casual game. Maybe the best.
My other gripes are the single-model units and the fact it's too much like WH40K now.
If I wanted to actively play WH40K, I would just write some new lists for my Orks. I plan to do this soon, but only after finishing tidying out my room, and off-loading some models I've been planning to sell - resuming playing WH40K will be my reward to myself for all that work.

Also, if any of you guys want some cheap Vampire counts infantry and a couple mounted characters, PM me. I'll be posting them in the trading section in the next day or two, after I inventory them; I'm selling them for my friend who wanted to start Undead about four years ago, and then decided it was a rip-off.....
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on January 05, 2017, 09:46:07 AM
Tzeentch is on the move. (There's a cool trailer on their Facebook as well)

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War of Sigmar posted this, it's from Nick di Astropathi:
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20 Kairic Acolytes for $50 was not what I expected.

Shinros is definitely getting a jump on the lore side of things:

https://forums.totalwar.com/discussion/183294/aos-lore-thread/p9

And here's some black library stuff:

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http://www.blacklibrary.com/all-products/pantheon-ebook.html 

Pantheon 

Day 20 of Advent 2016 
A Warhammer Age of Sigmar short story 

In the age before Chaos, during a time of myth, the pantheon of gods ruled at Sigmar’s hand. As dark times return to the Mortal Realms, Sigmar beseeches the goddess Alarielle to heed a tale of those better years, one he hopes will restore not only her faith but the faith of all noble creatures. 

READ IT BECAUSE 
Sigmar's quest to reunite his old pantheon of gods has been one of the underlying themes of the Age of Sigmar so far, but we haven't seen much of the time when they did stand together. Well, here's your chance. 

THE STORY 
In the age before Chaos, during a time of myth, the pantheon of gods ruled at Sigmar’s hand. As dark times return to the Mortal Realms, Sigmar beseeches the goddess Alarielle to heed a tale of those better years, one he hopes will restore not only her faith but the faith of all noble creatures. Heed then the saga of the mage Bayla who seeks the Realms' End, a mythic place believed to hold a great secret. Beseeching the aid of wise Teclis and dread Nagash, Bayla's desire for knowledge and the fulfilment of his quest blinds him to the danger in his midst, one that could imperil his very soul. 

Written by Guy Haley 

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http://www.blacklibrary.com/collections-and-bundles/physical-bundles/rgw-exclusive-editions.html 


The Realmgate Wars: Exclusive Editions 

The Realmgate Wars rage across the Mortal Realms, and tales of heroism and villainy emerge from every conflict. In this bundle, you'll find 10 hardback novels, the complete Black Library account of the battles of the Realmgate Wars – all in lavish Black Library Exclusive Editions. 

READ IT BECAUSE 
If you want to get up to date on the stories of the Mortal Realms, there's no better way than to pick up the whole Realmgate Wars saga – especially with these glorious Exclusive Editions that will be sure to take pride of place on your bookshelf. 

DESCRIPTION 
From the early battles of the Stormcast Eternals on the Brimstone Peninsula, to the War of Life, the secret origins of the Varanguard, an insight into the savage Ironjawz and even encounters with the God of Death himself, this collection of ten lavish Black Library Exclusive Edition novels is the ultimate way to experience the stories of the Realmgate Wars. 

CONTENTS 
War Storm by Guy Haley, Nick Kyme & Josh Reynolds 
Ghal Maraz by Guy Haley & Josh Reynolds 
Hammers of Sigmar by Darius Hinks & C L Werner 
Call of Archaon by David Annandale, David Guymer, Guy Haley & Rob Sanders 
Wardens of the Everqueen by C L Werner 
Warbeast by Gav Thorpe 
Fury of Gork by Josh Reynolds 
Bladestorm by Matt Westbrook 
Mortarch of Night by David Guymer & Josh Reynolds 
Lord of Undeath by C L Werner 

ABOUT THESE EDITIONS 
Beautifully presented with bespoke artwork on an embossed, soft-touch matte finish hardcover, brass-edged pages and metallic inking, these ten tomes are sure to take pride of place on the shelf of any bookcase. The A5 hardback covers fold out to provide panoramic views of battle. 

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and a new AoS book too : 

http://www.blacklibrary.com/all-products/city-of-secrets.html 


City of Secrets 

A Legends of the Age of Sigmar novel 

In the city of Excelsis, in the heart of the Realm of Beasts, Corporal Armand Callis of the city watch stumbles upon a dark secret and finds himself hunted, with just a witch hunter for companionship. 

READ IT BECAUSE 

It's an in depth look at life in a city of the Mortal Realms coupled with a rip-roaring tale of action and adventure, not to mention a most intriguing mystery, as you might expect of the City of Secrets… 

THE STORY 
Excelsis is the city of secrets, a grand and imposing bastion of civilisation in the savage Realm of Beasts. Within its winding streets and shadowy back alleys, merchants deal in rawprophecy mined from an ancient fragment of the World That Was, and even the poorest man may earn a glimpse of the future. Yet not all such prophecies can be trusted. When Corporal Armand Callis of the city guard stumbles upon a dark secret, he finds himself on the run from his former comrades, framed for a crime he did not commit. Only the Witch Hunter Hanniver Toll knows the truth of his innocence. Together the pair must race against time to save Excelsis from a cataclysm that would drown the city in madness and fear. 

Written by Nick Horth 

Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on January 09, 2017, 10:53:24 AM
New Lord of change coming, and I think it's really rather nice.

Apparantly has enough bits to do two variants, plus a Kairos Fateweaver variant

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Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: S.O.F on January 09, 2017, 12:49:47 PM
New Lord of change coming, and I think it's really rather nice.

Apparantly has enough bits to do two variants, plus a Kairos Fateweaver variant

It is very nice but (perhaps with a scale model to help) will continue the problem of minis that are so large and impressive they become less useful for gaming.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on January 09, 2017, 12:53:20 PM
That I can't argue with. Transporting centrepiece models isn't easy, nor are fiddly ones, like Prosecutors.

Sent from my thingamajig via wadyamacallit

Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Syn Ace on January 10, 2017, 12:44:39 PM
Guess it depends on your mode of transport and method of carrying it. I've been taking Archaon around without much problem.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on January 11, 2017, 11:58:36 AM
Little bit of news here.

First off, wellofeternity has some artwork from the new Tzeentch book.(towards bottom of page)

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/698764.page

From a post on the 9th age forum there's confirmation of Slaanesh being a future narrative. (Old news to most AoS players but good for quelling the common complaint at AoS for going PG.)
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For the ones that think 40K will be AoSfied in the same way as what happened with the old world Robbie MacNiven an author for GW.

Posted this on his blog.

*(The 9th age site has a horrible quote system so picture below)

With the following comment:

Seriously though, think before you start spouting off about end times or spreading rumours. It’s all going to be okay, trust me.

The other post is about Slaanesh:

A poster asked this:

"Do you think Slaanesh being removed from Fantasy is going to affect things in 40k? It seems to me like it could but thatd be... Confusing mainly."

Answer from MacNiven:

It’s not been removed permanently, it’s coming back to Age of Sigmar as part of the ongoing narrative.

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There's speculation that since Tzeentch was responsible for Slaanesh's capture he's going to be a major part of it's return.

And finally,  GW's recent financials. (Sorry if it's been discussed elsewhere on the site and I missed it)

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer/comments/5n4dhw/gws_financials_report_of_january_discussion_on/

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So an operating profit for 2016 of

£16.86m + £13.8m = £30,66? That is CRAZY good!

Someone posted this:


 -------Income Statement - 31 May '15 - 1 Jun '14 - 2 Jun '13 - 3 Jun '12 - 29 May '11
 --Operating Profit / Loss - 16.48 -------- 12.3 ------- 21.25 ------ 19.14 ------ 15.24

Even if you factor in several million in currency profit, that is still more than any of the the last five years.

It appears listening to your customers does pay off, who knew :D
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on January 11, 2017, 02:29:30 PM
Still some rumours going on that Duardin (steamhead) are going to be the main antagonists for the upcoming Tzeentch release, though reports are in on some Free People activity as well.

This might give some hints on the duardin I think

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/01/11/rumour-engine-january-11th-2017/


also on the front of the financials:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/01/10/profits-soar-games-workshop-fantasy-model-retailer-battles-back/
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on January 11, 2017, 03:51:39 PM
TGA is scrambling that the new rumour is for Devoted of Sigmar, together with an earlier show of a tail..

Maybe some demigryph mounted with hunter type
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on January 11, 2017, 09:01:28 PM
Indeed, looking through all the guesses I'm betting Devoted back-up from the Auxiliary chamber.

It'd make sense due to the possible time-skip of the story and the established cities and civilizations have grown. Alot more men on the ground and territories to cover and the armies of Stormcast can't be everywhere at once so will have to rely on the Freeguild and Devoted more and more.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on January 12, 2017, 02:52:24 PM

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and a new AoS book too :

http://www.blacklibrary.com/all-products/city-of-secrets.html


City of Secrets

A Legends of the Age of Sigmar novel

In the city of Excelsis, in the heart of the Realm of Beasts, Corporal Armand Callis of the city watch stumbles upon a dark secret and finds himself hunted, with just a witch hunter for companionship.

READ IT BECAUSE

It's an in depth look at life in a city of the Mortal Realms coupled with a rip-roaring tale of action and adventure, not to mention a most intriguing mystery, as you might expect of the City of Secrets…

THE STORY
Excelsis is the city of secrets, a grand and imposing bastion of civilisation in the savage Realm of Beasts. Within its winding streets and shadowy back alleys, merchants deal in rawprophecy mined from an ancient fragment of the World That Was, and even the poorest man may earn a glimpse of the future. Yet not all such prophecies can be trusted. When Corporal Armand Callis of the city guard stumbles upon a dark secret, he finds himself on the run from his former comrades, framed for a crime he did not commit. Only the Witch Hunter Hanniver Toll knows the truth of his innocence. Together the pair must race against time to save Excelsis from a cataclysm that would drown the city in madness and fear.

Written by Nick Horth


They're having a chat with Nick Horth on Warhammer TV on Twitch as I type, and this book sounds like essential reading for the Freeguild fans.  If you're not watching now, try and watch this bit on demand.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on January 13, 2017, 04:49:37 PM
 :Ohmy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nWv_WcpUZA

talk is that this one is a familiar for 40k psykers
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on January 13, 2017, 05:19:45 PM
Well that's obviously a 40k model.  And that rumour engine of the tail from a couple of weeks ago now looks to be the Gyrinx, and not new Gryph-hounds  unfortunately
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on January 16, 2017, 11:00:19 AM

My friend Shinros gave a small review of the new novel "City of Secrets".

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City of secrets overview (I am not going to detail the whole story I will more or less try and put down how people live in the city, what it is like etc and what I liked about it sooo spoilers of course) 

Spoiler: 

Right I just want to say I loved this novel and I personally felt if you read the previous novels you would have more understanding of the situation surrounding those born in native realms controlled by chaos and ayzerites. Also fence sitters this will tip you over. Now the main character Callis is a reclaimed pretty much his mother was a native born of the realm of ghur while his dad was from ayzr. Even so he is seen as reclaimed(reclaimed are what people from ayzr call people who were born outside of it) hell his uncle did not want his dad to marry his mother because people from ayzr view natives from other realms as possibly "tainted" and their blood. Since they lived without sigmar's light for so long and the mortal realms were essentially controlled by chaos. 

Now the book opens with the majority of the stormcast, 7 free guild regiments out of 10 and church militant marching out of Excelsis to make war on an orruk warboss, this warboss has been troubling the city for some time now and through the shards gathered from the piece of the core of the warhammer world that's speared into the coast of the city(It's called the Spear of Mallus. Also this is a coastal city built on the coast of tusks. Right so prophesiers guild handles the prophecy and they work through the Collegiate(Battle mages), then right on the next page you meet Callis and his squad(he is part of the 3 remaining regiments staying in the city) staring at the marching stormcast. The stormcast that garrison the city are the Knight's Excelsior. (The most zealous against chaos out of the stormhosts) 

They have a down to earth funny conversation wondering if sigmar's stormcasts actually eat like normal people and one of callis squadmates noted that someone told him that he saw a cart of salted meat being dragged up to their tower one day, while another guardsman disagree's and says that stormcasts actually eat lightning.  Now if you read the previous novels you should know that they eat like normal people and need to sleep like normal people but to the common man they are like demi gods or "angels" or sigmar's will made manifest. I think it's a nice starting point to the story. 

Now the oldest member of Callis squad who is much more older than him chided the younger members telling them that the "White angels" the knights excelsior are no "fairy-tale" knights and that there have been "purges" in the past lead by the white reaper who is the lord Veritant that leads the storm chamber of the city. (His tower is not a pretty place at all where the stormcast hang out). Anyway Callis ends the discussion and begins their squads patrol and they made note that he has a pistol and most people would rather have Duardin made pistols since they can stand being wet and still function properly. 

Now here is a bit where they start blending low and high fantasy somewhat

It's just that most guildsmen would never have enough funds to afford one. So they begin their patrol in the city when they begin to enter the slums they made note that their general has said not to patrol the slums (It's called the veils in the book also they don't have a proper sewage system yuck) but Callis disagree's and notes that's their patrol route. There are tons of houses well poor housing in the slums because of how many people are coming to the city to settle or find their fortune, While walking past they see a reclaimed almost half dazed with tons of tiny auguries around him. (It's what they call the pieces from from the Spear of Mallus)

The female member of Callis squad(She is from ayzr) makes a snide remark about how if reclaimed saved their money(Currency is called glimmerings) to make a better living for themselves instead of using it on tiny pieces of auguries they would be out of the slum and how small pieces amount to nothing than a good feeling in your gut or winning you a card game. Of course she then realizes what she said and apologizes to Callis. (Heck there is worst racism in the noble sector most reclaimed are not even allowed anywhere near there) 

Right so then they come across the thing that Callis is not meant to see I won't say anymore on the story bit here want to keep a few surprises if you plan to read the book. After that event happens we move to our witch hunter from the order of ayzr and he has a lot of authority if he reveals his occupation and badge of office. The witch hunter and his companion who is a duardin with one eye are watching people on the docks which are controlled by the aelf Mafi- I mean scourge privateers. They own them and normally people don't like to go there or mess around because as we all know they skin people who get on their bad side. 

They are watching people going about their day now image a whfb city everyone is working on the docks like normal doing well normal things until they then describe the kind of things captains catch and sell wyre-sharks that are big enough to devour 5 people whole a bird like water beast that can fly and swim and they go on to explain that captains have to use their glimmerings on prophecy to find good catches but also make sure they have enough money to pay their crew so they have to strike a balance. They also make note that there are aelf(since they own it and capture the most stuff), duardin and humans working on the docks. One thing I like is how the races are not segregated but live together and work together in various ways which feels realistic and also blending in that AOS feel. 

The noble quarter? They note many of the things built there are made of marble and there are half naked figures serving people, with tons of statues of sigmar and saints of sigmar. Most pure blooded ayzrites live there of course and control the most important aspects of the city even reclaimed joining the free guild army they are looked down upon and find it hard to get promotions. They also note that there are Duardin in the noble quarter as well. 

Now on the White reaper? There has been purges in the past and he is pretty much the saint of them, the stormcast tower where they hang out? I shall describe it, the tower is called the Consecralium the tower looms over the city so everyone can see it most of the older population remember the purge and use stories of the "white reaper" to make sure their children behave and remain pious that's how bad it was. Now the tower does not look like a holy place of sorts but it's imposing and there are mini dark portals with ballistae sticking out. They also note that screams come from it sometimes. 

Another note that freeguild regiments NOW have female and male members so people who like to convert? Go nuts, also some are more pious than others some have their weapons and soldiers blessed by priests everyday and some are named after famous stormcast like the Iron bulls of Tarsus(RIP). 

Right that's as much as I will put down I hope this is good enough for people.

And some sites with more Tzeentch pics:

https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/warhammer-fantasy-general-thread.333032/page-248

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/4500/690078.page
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on January 16, 2017, 12:49:26 PM
It's the next book I get 😺
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on January 19, 2017, 01:02:22 PM
I've finished reading City of Secrets.  it's probably my favourite of the AoS novels I've read so far, since it is from the human point of view. 
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on January 20, 2017, 01:59:49 PM
New Tzeench book review! I think I'm gonna rebase my tzeench army so it's viable in 40k as well. Spreads the wealth!

https://ttgamingdiary.wordpress.com/
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Sharkbelly on January 21, 2017, 02:15:30 AM
Great review! And the rest of the blog is cool too.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on January 21, 2017, 05:23:23 PM
Love this guys bolg for sure. Apparently he has over 70000 points of AoS
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: The Peacemaker on January 23, 2017, 12:59:51 AM
Love this guys bolg for sure. Apparently he has over 70000 points of AoS

Pfft, points.
How many wounds is that?
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on January 23, 2017, 01:14:13 AM
Love this guys bolg for sure. Apparently he has over 70000 points of AoS

Pfft, points.
How many wounds is that?

Ha! Good point. How about lots 😸
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on January 23, 2017, 07:07:32 PM
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/01/23/the-vanguard-of-the-storm/
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on January 24, 2017, 12:10:04 AM
Oh ho, those are really good. I'm thinking of kitbashing some with Liberator parts for a "squire" look.

I am surprised it was the vanguard chamber revealed, I really thought we'd be seeing the auxiliary chamber for protecting the new territories.

Also, there are soooo many people going to backflip for a separate Gryph-hound release. :biggriin:

The terms "cavalrymen" and Gryph-chargers definitely perked up my interest.
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They bring with them loyal beasts of the Celestial Realm, some familiar, like the Gryph-hound, and some we have never seen before, like the Aetherwing and the formidable Gryph-chargers (more on those very soon).

Another thing,  heard on the Dakka forum that the liberators and judicators boxes are going to be temporarily withdrawn. Maybe price reductions?
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on January 24, 2017, 12:29:15 AM
Quote Baron Von Klatz - The terms "cavalrymen" and Gryph-chargers definitely perked up my interest.

You too eh? Same here. I like the gryph hound group. Still thinking of a way to work that cat in from the  eldar release.

Seems to me that it's a good time to start a stormcast army 😺
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on January 24, 2017, 12:42:27 AM
Maybe have them acting like dogs chasing the cat up a Sylvaneth?  :-D
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on January 24, 2017, 01:37:19 AM
Ha!Ha!
That's a good idea.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Sharkbelly on January 24, 2017, 07:49:37 AM
You too eh? Same here. I like the gryph hound group. Still thinking of a way to work that cat in from the  eldar release.

Agreed. Too cool to not use somehow.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on January 24, 2017, 11:55:59 AM
Oh ho, those are really good. I'm thinking of kitbashing some with Liberator parts for a "squire" look.

I am surprised it was the vanguard chamber revealed, I really thought we'd be seeing the auxiliary chamber for protecting the new territories.

Also, there are soooo many people going to backflip for a separate Gryph-hound release. :biggriin:

The terms "cavalrymen" and Gryph-chargers definitely perked up my interest.
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They bring with them loyal beasts of the Celestial Realm, some familiar, like the Gryph-hound, and some we have never seen before, like the Aetherwing and the formidable Gryph-chargers (more on those very soon).

Another thing,  heard on the Dakka forum that the liberators and judicators boxes are going to be temporarily withdrawn. Maybe price reductions?

Judicators are already Sold out - no longer available, they might get an update sprue for those "scouts" is the word on TGA
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on January 24, 2017, 03:26:25 PM
I've heard regarding Judictators, and Liberators (Which are also no longer available)

Rebox with 10 for the price of slightly less than 2x5.
Box of 5 that can build either Liberators or Judicators.
And now Box that can make Judicators or rangers. 

Not all of those can be true.  I think the last one is the least plausible from the style of the new rangers they show in the pictures

*edit, I've just checked and Liberators are still available.  They weren't yesterday*
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on January 24, 2017, 03:42:25 PM
I doubt the rebox thing also. unless those scouts need to come per 10.. but all (normal footslogging) units go per 5, so I doubt it
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on January 24, 2017, 04:20:42 PM
Holy cow, YES!!

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/01/24/your-quest-continues/
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on January 24, 2017, 05:34:31 PM
Holy cow, YES!!

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/01/24/your-quest-continues/

That might be our introduction to humans and duardin
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on January 24, 2017, 06:00:44 PM
Right on the heals of the book City of Secrets which is turning out to be pretty awesome. Lots of that old world feel in the surroundings and the mix of selves, duardin and humans. 
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on January 24, 2017, 06:10:53 PM
@StealthKnightSteg,

Maybe, hard to imagine they won't include some mortal goodies that dwell in the city before the big release. The way they encourage the use of the new Tzeentch stuff for it and a "narrative" focus makes me think this will be more Mordheim-ish in nature as more forces are wrapped up in the conflict than the previous solitary hero group.

Nice to see Hammerhal involved in this, it was kind of a red herring after the summer campaign. You can't have a two realm spanning city and leave it out of the action. :-P

@Artoban's Ghost,  Indeed,  really looking forward to the next books that further flesh-out the setting. :happy:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on January 25, 2017, 02:14:09 PM
If the box art for the Warhammer Quest: Shadows over Hammerhal is anything to go by, there doesn't appear to be any new miniatures, just existing stuff thrown together.  Well, at least for the heroes.  Whether there are new adversaries, we have yet to see, but I kind of think we'll have existing minis for those as well
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: S.O.F on January 26, 2017, 12:55:05 AM
If the box art for the Warhammer Quest: Shadows over Hammerhal is anything to go by, there doesn't appear to be any new miniatures, just existing stuff thrown together.  Well, at least for the heroes.  Whether there are new adversaries, we have yet to see, but I kind of think we'll have existing minis for those as well

This was my thought as well.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Demonslayer on January 27, 2017, 10:59:49 AM
Just noticed on the games-workshop site that all daemons of Tzeentch are "no longer available". I realize that GW just announced the release of a lot of mortal Tzeentch minis, but daemons appear to be gone. Are they planning on releasing new ones at a later date or something?
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on January 27, 2017, 11:33:40 AM
They're all getting re-packaged and back on pre-order this weekend, along with a Start Collecting Tzeentch Daemons.   Plus the new Lord Of Change, and the new Blue and Brimstone Horrors
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on January 27, 2017, 12:10:55 PM
I'm wondering what happened to Araloth/Nomad Prince. Was his sell rate so low that they didn't see it as a bother? (Can't say I'd be surprised, his popularity was always bad)

Anyway, here's some goodies.  :smile2:

Shinros update for Tzeentch:

https://forums.totalwar.com/discussion/183294/aos-lore-thread/p11

More artwork:

http://wellofeternitypl.blogspot.com/2017/01/disciplesoftzeentchartworks.html?m=1

And the source of the Warhammer quest box art.

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/nBx2r
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Demonslayer on January 27, 2017, 03:52:51 PM
They're all getting re-packaged and back on pre-order this weekend, along with a Start Collecting Tzeentch Daemons.   Plus the new Lord Of Change, and the new Blue and Brimstone Horrors
Oh that's good news, thank you :)!
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on January 27, 2017, 03:55:49 PM
news on the stormcast front

some leaked pictures
(http://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/tgacommunity/monthly_2017_01/588b4cfd8aa7a_File27-01-2017133624.png.f6cd1b7cb20506301abca595ac5de3f7.png)
(http://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/tgacommunity/monthly_2017_01/1485525790032.jpg.ed526af92b21d2f07c5590d8c9b9852a.jpg)

and a warhammer community give away picture
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/01/27/stormcast-gryph-cavalry-inbound/
(https://17890-presscdn-0-51-pagely.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Lord-Aquilor.jpg)

Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on January 27, 2017, 03:58:06 PM
and the new box for the Silver Tower

(http://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/tgacommunity/monthly_2017_01/igor-sid-d5uoxkw93q42.jpg.4e535f082f70cc3dc78db988571310b1.jpg)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on January 27, 2017, 04:36:35 PM
What is not to like about these cavalry! Love em!
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on February 07, 2017, 05:39:21 PM
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/02/07/the-generals-handbook-ii-wip-points-sneak-peek/

first insights of hat to come with GHB2
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on February 08, 2017, 01:39:21 AM
Sounds like GW is actually listening and responding to feedback out there. Looking forward to the new book but I have a feeling I'll be more involved with the narrative play and less points based at this stage. I just want to use all the stuff I like.  On another note the guys at BoltersandChainsword really are discussing the AoSing of 40k with an open mind. I thought there would be widespread resistence but they seem to be embracing the change. Mind you I havnt played the last system at all although I have all the books but it does seem to need streamlining.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Victor on February 08, 2017, 12:31:04 PM
I hope they are done with the Stormcast Eternals soon ... how many variations of the same thing can they produce/sell?

This reminds me of the Simpsons Episode with Malibu Stacy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaOgZwk9rN8

Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Sharkbelly on February 09, 2017, 10:40:16 PM
Isn't that most of 40K? The same model with a different gun...  :-D
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on February 10, 2017, 11:09:02 AM
Isn't that most of 40K? The same model with a different gun...  :-D

And different shoulder pads
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Xathrodox86 on February 13, 2017, 01:22:55 PM
I'm not gonna lie, those fur cape-wearing Stormcasts are pretty sweet... :blush:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on February 13, 2017, 01:56:40 PM
They are aren't they? Stormcast madness spreads!
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on February 18, 2017, 11:45:30 AM
I'm really loving the new Stormcasts, they're every DnD ranger trope wrapped up into an baroque armored package. :-D

Happy with the new battletome as well, gives the Stormcast some needed nerfs while also giving them alot more flavor as the chambers are given specific abilities.

There's also new maps! :icon_biggrin:

https://ttgamingdiary.files.wordpress.com/2017/02/img_7960.jpg?w=1752

Besides that, there's also the return of Slambo. Apparently a big meme with the TT community and was the model from 2nd edition which chaos warriors designs were heavily based off of.

Quote from: aracersss 690078 9207168 b4e5f24dc07b625fb47bb1da7c49b9eb.jpg
that slambo ...

(http://i.imgur.com/1SkD6ZR.jpg)

... kinda think is cool
                             ... more detailed than the last one
(I see Bretonnian conversion material...)

Also, more news on the upcoming warhammer quest:

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Ladies and Gentlemen.

Description
Receive a Warhammer Quest Shadows Over Hammerhal Games Master's screen (English language only) free with every purchased Warhammer Quest Shadows Over Hammerhal, while stocks last. Click here to find out more.

Hammerhal. Built in the glorious image of Azyrheim, the seat of the God-King Sigmar’s power. Within its walls can be found danger and beauty, faith and intrigue, poverty and fortune. From the gleaming crystal spires of Goldenpath to the mist-shrouded vineways of Ghyra-un-Tyr, there is seemingly no end to its marvels. Yet most who witness this splendour know little of the danger and menace that fill the outer districts of the city, and that which lurks below…

A band of heroes has been brought together by circumstance, and are bound to hunt down and nullify a sinister Chaos plot in the dungeons and catacombs below Hammerhal. Lord-Castellant Arvios Sunhelm, his Gryph-hound Archimaine and Cogsmith Golnir Coalbeard are joined by Loremaster Alnaryn and Fleetmaster Vizrin Kyre, as they quest to uncover the Chaos Sorcerer Lord Redomir and put a halt to the vile corruption of the First City of Order.

Warhammer Quest Shadows Over Hammerhal is a boxed game for 2-5 players, set in – and below – the splendid city of Order, Hammerhal. Up to 4 players can quest in the catacombs and dungeons below the city, while another acts as gamemaster, setting fiendish obstacles, controlling the antagonists and setting the story – it’s up to this player to take charge of revealing the secrets each dungeon has to offer.

After each adventure, the heroes can spend time in the Cinderfall district of the city, visiting shops, resting and taking part in the various shadowy delights Hammerhal has to offer!Your characters level up and increase their skills as you play, and Warhammer Quest Shadows Over Hammerhal is completely compatible with the Warhammer Quest: Silver Tower Hero Cards – any miniatures or rules you already own for that game can be used here.

Speaking of miniatures, Warhammer Quest Shadows Over Hammerhal includes an impressive 31:

- a Lord-Castellant;
- a Gryph-hound;
- a Cogsmith;
- a Black Ark Fleetmaster;
- a Loremaster;
- a Chaos Sorcerer Lord;
- 5 Putrid Blightkings;
- 10 Kairic Acolytes;
- 10 Bloodreavers.

As well as this, the box includes a 72-page guidebook, a 32-page adventure book for the gamemaster to use, 18 double-sided board sections, 55 cards, 12 dice and a variety of counters and markers for tracking your heroes as they gain experience and skills under the city of Hammerhal.
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So how long it will take for you guys to die via shopkeeper lady?

Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on February 18, 2017, 11:46:05 AM
Then there's the updates for the fan-made Hinterlands campaigns and AoS28.
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/717716.page

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/60/706704.page

And finally just wanted to give a shout-out to this awesome knight-questor and Fyreslayer I saw on Reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer/comments/5rcvov/silver_tower_heroes_progress_knight_and_slayer/

( oh, and I guess it can count as news that I updated my army's fluff at the Round Table? 
http://www.roundtable-bretonnia.org/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=87&func=view&catid=5&id=170998#170998 )
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on February 18, 2017, 01:25:55 PM
Baron Von Klatz is back ! Don't think we didn't notice your absence😺
Nice updates for sure.  That necromancer of Bottle's is pretty cool. The game sounds great. Doubt if I'll ever find that many players but the minis might be worth it too.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on February 19, 2017, 02:30:46 AM
Haha yeah, didn't mean to take that long an absence but I'm in California where God answered those "pray for rain" rallies with a vengeance.  :-P

Gonna be off until Tuesday also, the high winds took out my Wi-Fi and it won't be fixed till then. (Can't afford to pay the data usage rates right now either.)

So see you lads and good fortune to you!
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Xathrodox86 on February 20, 2017, 12:24:33 PM
Good to see you back Baron. Missed ya! :smile2:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on February 21, 2017, 01:42:32 AM
The Lord Aquilor model is beautiful. His warscroll isn't too shabby either. The command trait can be quite useful and the Winds of Aetheric  can solve a few movement issues. This new group of cavalry, hunters and hounds are awesome. I want, I want!!gonna rob me a bank soon if I have too 😺💰
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on February 21, 2017, 11:42:33 AM
I'm sorry to see the Knight Vexillor and Knight Azyros get nerfed.  They already were with the points value for the Vexillor anyway.  It looks like it might mean a lot more footslogging, which is not good for such a slow army
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on February 21, 2017, 03:20:38 PM
I'm sorry to see the Knight Vexillor and Knight Azyros get nerfed.  They already were with the points value for the Vexillor anyway.  It looks like it might mean a lot more footslogging, which is not good for such a slow army

On TGA we are already working out lots of ideas with Beta striking or other movement perks. Maybe we don't have full army alpha striking anymore, we can do it with smaller sections and with a little detour.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on February 21, 2017, 03:55:30 PM
I think the Vanguard-auxiliary Chamber is now the way to Alpha-Strike.  They can get as close as 7" when they arrive.

I haven't yet had chance read through the new book in detail, so I haven't found my own solution.  Lightning Strike can still be used to land on clear objectives, and zapping in a Vexillor to get a charge re-roll could still make it viable.  Just need something to add a few inches to a charge. 
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on February 21, 2017, 06:49:00 PM
Hammerstrike force battalion as it used to be, but now paladins instead of retributors still has the mechanic to set up within 6" of the Prosecutors. Add a vexillor or a priest with lightning chariot prayer to fast move the Prosecutors and then dump the Paladins.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on February 22, 2017, 10:30:17 AM
Apparently SoH is going light on models but heavy rules (for both game masters and co-ops) and really, really heavy on background lore. :)

Quote from: shinros 715458 9213233 8824b0cebd6520409dea2c724b2a0a64.jpg
They have also done a small fluff post as well.

https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/1734 (https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/1734)

Images

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Also, Hastings caught wind of Shadowkin(dark aelves from realm of shadows, not the exiles who aid Sigmar) being one of the next releases and will have a very heavy Lovecraft flavor to them.

(Silver Tower hinted as much as the assassin model is jumping off a tentacle and in the book the Sorceress uses magic that causes madness and makes enemies rip their own skin off. As if elves weren't creepy enough.)
[Edit]:
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Bob:
it's 5% of the fluff and 30% 40% of arts i think

Wow! :ph34r:

Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Xathrodox86 on February 22, 2017, 11:54:20 AM
Holy crap, AoS actually begins to look... interesting. Wow! :blush:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on February 22, 2017, 05:07:22 PM
Funny what a little background lore off the battlefield can do. :-P

GW should've done this from the beginning when AoS started. Preferably during the age of myth when all the giant empires and kingdoms were around so people knew what they were fighting for.

Oh well, that's the past and a brighter future is ahead. :smile2:

Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on February 22, 2017, 10:38:05 PM
Howcome it took them so long?

And I want all the other aelves sorted before they release a bunch of evil ones.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on February 23, 2017, 12:00:16 AM
Well, lore-wise, there wasn't much for a rpg setting with variety until now after the forces of Order had once again established cities in the mortal realms. Before that it would've been a chaos/undead city with minimum background appeal or set in Azyrheim without any real reason to defend a city with a OP defense force(I.e. Sigmar).

Everything else at that point was ruins and fallen civilizations like the fallen Lantic empire that turned into the Flesh-Eater court or the abandoned floating isle fortresses of the Swifthawk Agents to name but a few.

Hammerhal is a mix of getting to see the setting  grow and a reward for safeguarding it and the other two cities during the summer campaign. Funny to think we'd be in another city (or none at all) if the results turned out different.  :-D

As for why we'd get evil elves first, it's looking to tie-in tightly with the Slaanesh sub-plot and it's release.

-Numerous Slaanesh short-stories and side stories have pointed them out as having deduced their master is being held by Malerion (Malekith).

-Tzeentch was responsible for it's imprisonment in the first place while using it as a distraction to cripple Sigmar's pantheon. Recent lore shows Tzeentch's forces acting randomly but actually being used in a arcane plot that many suspect to cause even more turmoil in Order's domains. (Likely the release of Slaanesh at the heart of the Aelven forces)

Hammerhal even plays more on this:

Quote from: shinros 690078 9214158 8824b0cebd6520409dea2c724b2a0a64.jpg
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Lord Redomir is a Chaos Sorcerer Lord of Slaanesh.

He is the mastermind behind the Chaos attack.

Now that's really good.

I hope this means that at least we'll know something about Slaanesh later this year.

Awesome where did this wonderful nugget of information come from?

edit: Right just checked the warhammer community site.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/02/21/closer-look-the-villains/ (https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/02/21/closer-look-the-villains/)

Finally, we have Lord Redomir, a Chaos Sorcerer Lord of Slaanesh.

Long has he, and sorcerers like him, attempted to draw the attention of their lost Chaos God, but to no avail. Now he thinks he may have found a way to locate and awaken his gorged and sleeping deity. Gathering to him followers of Chaos and binding them with promises of bloodshed, mayhem and desolation, he has forged an alliance and seeks to fulfil his destiny…

So the Shadowkin are looking to be the opposing force against whatever a released Slaanesh brings to the table.

Anyway,  I'd like more good elf focus as well. Since Tyrion is the god of light whose followers, like the Order Draconis, are Aelven knight orders and he had human worshippers as well, I'm hoping the realm of light will reveal a mixed knight faction that'll please both elven and Bretonnian players.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Sharkbelly on February 23, 2017, 12:44:47 AM
Air Ships? Skycutters? Lava Cogs! Oh my!

I am loving the sound of this, even if two of the three are only fluff for now!
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on February 23, 2017, 08:32:00 AM
Indeed! Fingers crossed on more info on those along with a nudge towards AoS Man-of-war.  :-D

Also, just saw this Skycutter on reddit and thought your maritime forces could get inspiration out of it. (Captains need parrots afterall. ;) )

https://www.reddit.com/r/ageofsigmar/comments/5vk626/skycutter_also_affectionately_referred_to_as_a/
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Sharkbelly on February 23, 2017, 10:33:00 PM
Wow... I'll have to think about that.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on February 24, 2017, 11:37:23 PM
Somehow it feels very shallow. We get one or two cities newly conquered. I was hoping for a deep lore. What this sounds like is more of a frontier setting.

It feels like the only interesting forces might be the Wanderers.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on February 26, 2017, 11:04:59 AM
Well Hammerhal is technically two cities with one part in the fire realm and the other in the life realm and there's also Phoenicium, the city made from ancient ruins largely run by the Aelves, as well as the Greywater Reach which is a floating industrial city under the Ironweld's control.

Besides that the setting is cities and provinces being rebuilt/established, ancient strongholds being repaired and kingdoms/tribes that survived the age of chaos having to mend themselves or be refugees into the new cities and try to adapt while avoiding discrimination as "Reclaimed" because they were under chaos' power for so long.

So I suppose calling it a frontier setting is somewhat accurate as it's focusing alot on what's being done now rather than what happened before. (Though there are pieces one can put together to figure what the age of myth was like)

Maybe you already seen it but there's a good lore thread by my friend Shinros.

https://forums.totalwar.com/discussion/183294/aos-lore-thread/p16

Also, I agree wanderers are pretty interesting. Nice to see they're such a contrast to their Old World selves as they constantly travel and have a uneasy relationship with a place and it's goddess that they once were so reliant on.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Xathrodox86 on March 01, 2017, 10:08:08 AM
Funny what a little background lore off the battlefield can do. :-P

GW should've done this from the beginning when AoS started. Preferably during the age of myth when all the giant empires and kingdoms were around so people knew what they were fighting for.

Oh well, that's the past and a brighter future is ahead. :smile2:

I agree. If they'd make more, unique artworks (instead of this boring, generic, comicbooky stuff that also infests 40K as of late), I think that AoS would've recieve a much warmer welcome. I'll see how things will go from here, I'm actually rather stoked.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on March 02, 2017, 10:15:30 AM
Haha, can't say I disagree. What I've noticed is the shiny stuff mostly comes from Deviantart and Artstation rather than a few of the better pieces that are in-house like the Hammerhal stuff.

Though I do enjoy alot of the artwork but I agree it's a mixed bag even if some of the AoS stuff is done by the artists who work on the total war warhammer artwork.

If you're interested might I suggest you give "City of Secrets" a read? It is very nice with a good blend of old warhammer feel with the new AoS vibe. The Silver Tower novel might worth a look too since it has alot of grim elements in it.

Anyway, new leak from community page shows what appears to be the Steamhead Duardin ready to ram a daemon with their ship.

Quote from: Lord Kragan 690078 9228604 null
It may turn out to be a different thing but I highly doubt it so I'm going to let the Hype flow:

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IT IS REAAAAL! IT IS REAAAAL! STEAMHEADS ARE COMING THIS MARCH!!!!![/i][/u]


Salt needed here:

Quote from: Baron Klatz 690078 9229534 null
Okay, just saw this on reddit and I only trust Lady Atia so not sure how high on the legit meter it might be. So take alot of salt here.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ageofsigmar/comments/5wq7t0/any_new_duardin_rumors/
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There's going to be a dwarven zeppelin, some new gunner dwarves, a character, and a unit of dwarves that are suspended by individual hot air balloons. They look pretty cool but my guy wouldn't let me take pics. I'm excited for everyone to see.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on March 08, 2017, 01:54:23 PM
Just a comment on the new AOS app upgrade and the army builder that comes with it. Extremely cool. I've done up rosters for my 5 armies (although one completely ork and one goblin). Came up with empire, orks, tzeentch, high elf at 2000 puts each and goblin at 2500 points. I get to throw in absolutely every unit I own with a few left over - my crossbow guys didn't make it in and some squigs. 
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on March 09, 2017, 01:40:31 PM
Made the mistake of purchasing the Tzeentch book from amazon I think and not from BL. Cost a few dollars more and doesn't sync with the app. Expecting my idiot badge in the mail shortly.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on March 09, 2017, 02:25:50 PM
Quote from 'Warbeasts'
“Felk’s rod was even larger and more impressive, a bifurcated branch with the skulls of five humans bound to it with rotted twine and rusted chain. Their eyes were nuggets of warpstone and their jawbones wired in such a way that they chattered madly with each stride that took him across the cavern.”

Excerpt From: Thorpe, Gav. “Warbeast.” iBooks.
This material may be protected by copyright.

This skaven priest would be an interesting model for that staff alone.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on March 09, 2017, 09:25:12 PM
Sounds like a pretty good staff for an evil Skaven priest. I generally like Gav Thorpes writing.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Warlord on March 09, 2017, 10:18:15 PM
Oh, rod = staff. I was confused for a moment there.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on March 09, 2017, 10:35:41 PM
Oh, rod = staff. I was confused for a moment there.

Ha ! Ha! 😺
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on March 14, 2017, 07:44:18 PM
Looks like the Starter set is getting redone.  Still Stormcast vs Bloodbound

https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/1795
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on March 15, 2017, 02:36:57 AM
Yeah, it has less models than the main starter but is cheaper as well so another great entry into AoS. :smile2:

Besides that, I guess the only other news is the new novel with female Stormcast in it. (Apparently, as I learned from my friend, there's a Extremis host composed of all women knights "Daughters Draconis", there's a book Josh should do. :smile2:)

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Oh, yeah. Steamhead Duardin:

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=347176822343969&id=230219510706368&refsrc=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dakkadakka.com%2Fdakkaforum%2Fposts%2Flist%2F5940%2F690078.page&_rdr

Now we just need the Grot sky pirates and Ironjaws scrap-ships and we can get a aerial Dreadfleet. :biggriin:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on March 15, 2017, 03:31:25 AM
Better look at the steampunk goodness. (Yay for top-hats!)

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Some of the images from the Warhammer Community site:

Rest are at this link: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/03/15/a-new-race-descends-on-the-mortal-realms/

(https://17890-presscdn-0-51-pagely.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/GAMA-KO-GrundstokGunhauler-Content.jpg)

(https://17890-presscdn-0-51-pagely.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/GAMA-KO-BrokkGrungsson-Content.jpg)

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(https://17890-presscdn-0-51-pagely.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/GAMA-KO-Endrinmaster-Content.jpg)

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/03/15/a-new-race-descends-on-the-mortal-realms/

New game teased:

https://youtu.be/20NpoQtr9n8

Possibly connected to Dark Aelf hint. (Notice the magic symbols behind the mask)

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Don't forget that they did post a "teaser".

[spoiler](https://17890-presscdn-0-51-pagely.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/2017-03-03-1.jpg)[/spoiler]


FAN STUFF:

co-op rules for SoH.

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Dungeon number 7 ready for playtesting.

Dungeon 1. https://www.dropbox.com/s/8si56eijuoqpm61/1.%20The%20Catacombs.pdf?dl=0
Dungeon 2. https://www.dropbox.com/s/9mvzpn9e53p471t/2.%20Ancient%20Halls.pdf?dl=0
Dungeon 3. https://www.dropbox.com/s/lnm800fxshrd605/3.%20Branching%20of%20the%20Ways.pdf?dl=0
Dungeon 4. https://www.dropbox.com/s/wogqdm7qjjq1inf/4.%20The%20Vile%20Dungeon.pdf?dl=0
Dungeon 5. https://www.dropbox.com/s/psfp0ckaiazf85v/5.%20Halls%20of%20Blood.pdf?dl=0
Dungeon 6. https://www.dropbox.com/s/xn4mhon8xo99vf8/6.%20The%20Grinding%20Gear.pdf?dl=0
Dungeon 7. https://www.dropbox.com/s/g2bst58nvp6aeld/7.%20Auction%20Hall.pdf?dl=0

Cool stuff from Reddit:

https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16864921_1277625532358805_2079033751652906405_n.jpg?oh=8955a4d9f676e17956f0782cb9513d11&oe=596BD9EA

https://www.reddit.com/r/ageofsigmar/comments/5xez95/chocobo/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer/comments/5ybh04/the_cult_of_flame_my_age_of_sigmar_warband/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer/comments/5y3h72/grumlok_and_gazbag/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer/comments/5xr7qg/slambo_i_painted_the_newest_gw_mini_as_if_he_had/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer/comments/5y93wz/stormcast_army_wip_bases_are_next_along_with/
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on March 15, 2017, 06:22:37 AM
You've been doing your homework! So much stuff!getting my head around flying assault dwarves 😸This is going to be fun
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on March 15, 2017, 07:21:47 AM
Well rumors on steamhead dwarves was accurate, but I don't really know about this... for me it has just a bit too much 40k vibe, especially with the chain-sword dude with it's personal blimp.
But otherwise they do look great in detail!

in that clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekE5LPZdG1c
you can also see a bigger blimp featured then the one from the pictures
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on March 15, 2017, 10:37:59 AM
I really can't get the 40k look everyone keeps talking about. These guys are great but wouldn't last long on a 40k battlefield without a serious upgrade.

I just see a bunch of dialed to 11 steampunk dwarves with advanced muskets who look like they belong under the ocean.(haha, with Tzeentch beforehand and Lovecraft Aelves coming up I wonder if that's the theme?)

The top-hat lord is my favorite, best mix of being dapper and authority. :biggriin:

My birthday's coming up and he's on my list along with the battletome.

You've been doing your homework! So much stuff!getting my head around flying assault dwarves 😸This is going to be fun

Nah, I just report what I see.

This is doing your homework:

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Its been itching me why the style seems so familiar, I realize now its the similarity to Elder Scrolls Dwemer I'm thinking of (in a good way).

I see the same thing.

Squats + Dwemer = Karakakarkkon™ Overlaeords™



Despite the amusing naming habits that have shown up, Kharardron actually takes words/roots from the old Dwarven language in WHFB.

Kharar - A possible adaptation of Khaz, meaning underground chamber/hall; possibly Skyhall/ship
Dron - Thunder

So, possibly Thunder Sky-dwelling? Meaning they are Overlords of the Thundering Skyships?

Reference found here. http://warhammeronline.wikia.com/wiki/Khazalid (http://warhammeronline.wikia.com/wiki/Khazalid)

Also, forgot to post this cool paint job:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ageofsigmar/comments/5zc4k0/hubert_questor_of_the_galaxy/
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Duinila on March 15, 2017, 10:40:58 AM
So yea, steam punk dworfs!That's a thing now. Looking at a facebook page for AoS I am in, the minds seem to be pretty split on the subject of them tbh
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on March 15, 2017, 10:59:07 AM
Oh hey, haven't seen you in a while! :biggriin:

The split opinions are to be expected. Some people were expecting upgraded regular dwarfs and rune golems(even though every sign since the beginning pointed to mechanized cloud armies) but what they got is a bigger step away from the Old World.

Then there's the whole "too many guns so it's 40k-lite" arguments which are just silly.

On the whole though, they are pretty well-received all over.

The upcoming Shadowkin should be interesting to see people's reaction at dark elves going Lovecraft. :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: S.O.F on March 15, 2017, 11:29:08 AM
Then there's the whole "too many guns so it's 40k-lite" arguments which are just silly.

I don't know I think it is warranted, clock-work Squats is equidistant from fantasy Dwarfs.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on March 15, 2017, 06:24:02 PM
I generally like them. Not blown away into "OMG AMAZING!" land but still pretty happy with them. I'd like to see the sky ship painted to look more like a blimp them metal, but otherwise I'm good with steampunk dwarves.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Ursa Doom on March 15, 2017, 06:45:52 PM
Can't say that I like the steampunk aesthetic. Maybe I just hate fun?
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on March 15, 2017, 06:55:06 PM
Nah, just isn't to your taste. That's why there's so many "punks" out there in the first place. :-D

They said there's going to be alot of releases this year so it's better to save your money anyway. Maybe keep a Christmas list on hand. :wink:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Finlay on March 15, 2017, 09:02:52 PM
yuck
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on March 15, 2017, 09:07:22 PM
These are pretty much exactly as I expected them to be.  Better even.  But can I afford to start another army?   Proabably not.  REally tempted to get one of the airships though
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Ursa Doom on March 15, 2017, 11:02:52 PM
Nah, just isn't to your taste. That's why there's so many "punks" out there in the first place. :-D

They said there's going to be alot of releases this year so it's better to save your money anyway. Maybe keep a Christmas list on hand. :wink:

Oh I don't plan on buying much more this year. I already got plenty of things to sink my brush into.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Warlord on March 15, 2017, 11:21:13 PM
What gas is supposed to be in those? Lighter than hydrogen? I dont see how they work.

Way too many guns (the gatling especially - but i hated the skaven one of those too), and the chain sword is not a good addition.

Love the concept though. And i think the airship could be really good with a bigger gas container above.

Good and bad. Interesting.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gneisenau on March 15, 2017, 11:29:09 PM
What gas is supposed to be in those? Lighter than hydrogen? I dont see how they work.

EM drive.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on March 16, 2017, 12:29:19 AM
yuck

I look forward to your reaction with the Lovecraft Aelves.  :biggriin:

What gas is supposed to be in those? Lighter than hydrogen? I dont see how they work.

Way too many guns (the gatling especially - but i hated the skaven one of those too), and the chain sword is not a good addition.

Love the concept though. And i think the airship could be really good with a bigger gas container above.

Good and bad. Interesting.

I'm wondering about their machinery too. Their fluff mentioned they use alchemy and even a bit of the arcane so they could've made a new gas entirely or lighter materials for their ships. That they're in a realm of magic metal where the skies are filled with rare minerals but also deadly gasses could have a key part to play as well.

I'm gonna have a fun time reading their battletome to find out. :-D
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on March 16, 2017, 12:39:11 AM
What gas is supposed to be in those? Lighter than hydrogen? I dont see how they work.

EM drive.

😸👆

I think these guys will grow on me. Third time I've looked and liking more and more. Looking forward to a new book on them. Any warscrolls out yet?
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on March 16, 2017, 01:12:50 AM
They won't be out till April but I'll keep my eyes peeled for leaks.  :smile2:

Also, interesting conversation I had on Dakka:

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As the creator of the Dwemer, I heartily approve.

Care to elaborate? :)

Sure! I was the world designer for Bethesda's Elder Scrolls adventure game, Redguard, where the Dwemer first debuted, er, physically. (Previously, the Dwarves had only been mentioned as having disappeared.) The first Steam Centurions, Centurion Spheres, Airships, Dwemeri brass visages, etc., all appeared in that game. After that, I became the art director/world designer for Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind, where even more of the Dwemer culture was revealed, primarily in the expanded versions of their ruins. Good times.

Anyhoo, I love these new models, and collecting them will have a small feeling of meeting old friends.
 

(I then squeed like any fanboy but you don't need that part of the comments  :wink: )

Then we have a glimpse of the new game:

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from twitter

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This is a new board game coming from GW that is "very different than anything we've done"...coming later this year.

Don't worry, they said it'd have all new models. :biggriin:

[Edit]: Oh, here's some hints at the upcoming Lovecraft Aelves:

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This:

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This has been posted?

Hastings on Disqus/War of Sigmar (quotes via gw-fanworld.net)

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As for the image, well I believe I MAY have already posted a week or so ago about what this could well be (of course I could be totally wrong, but it looks like what was described to me as the new Aelves faction for AoS, with a very deep one/cthulu feel - I do still feel that the eyes are very much Tau, but we never really got to see the facial features of the mistweaver from AoS ST did we?)
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No more than everyone else really, I know there's at least one airship, other than that I "assume" they'll look similar in many ways to the cogsmith model aesthetically, but I guess a little more OTT and steampunkish. Quite looking forward to seeing them. As for exact release date I was expecting end of March, I was told they would be "NEXT" for AoS.


Which made people look closer at other minis to see this (tentacle on base):

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And combined with older minis like this

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And now this

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It's certainly plausible.


Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Xathrodox86 on March 16, 2017, 08:35:00 AM
I really like the new Steam Dwarves. They fit really well into AoS theme. I'm also really curious about that Shadespire game. Wonder if it'll be a new version of Mordheim, what with GW ressurecting Necromunda and all.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Finlay on March 16, 2017, 09:24:19 AM
Setting aside my traditionalist view of the Warhammer world (ie, to me these are massively out of place but potentially not for AoS) i do actually like the steam ships.

The rest just look too futuristic.

Any new aelfs won't bother me, as i don't have an elf army
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on March 16, 2017, 10:09:04 AM
Eh, some parts look arcane/sci-fi (or Jules Verne electric submarinish as my friend says) and some look Victorian Steampunk.

A little mix for everyone which is kinda the AoS vibe. At least it's agreed the ships look ace. :-D
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Wonder if it'll be a new version of Mordheim, what with GW ressurecting Necromunda and all.

That's the main theory right now. The showcase at Adepticon would be perfect for a mix of the new starter set(cheaper and less models) and a follow-up game that focuses on Warbands.

Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on March 16, 2017, 10:42:26 AM
I like these cats!

(Nice cat avatar as well, cats are awesome. :-) )

Thanks! That cat has the best personality I have come across. We call it fluffy latouche and it is our cardiac cat! I walked out into the hall in the hospital and saw a pic of it for a good home. Looked at the wife and said we must get! And we got. It goes with our other calico that wandered onto the property and we just lost our 16 year old calico. All calicoes but not by choice.
And yes that starter set looks good!

(http://i1376.photobucket.com/albums/ah12/brigadierinc/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_0177_zpscgcakwc9.jpg) (http://s1376.photobucket.com/user/brigadierinc/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_0177_zpscgcakwc9.jpg.html)
That skaven and High Elf set looks awfully familiar.  Not that I'm complaining.  I bought that set back during 7th edition, and liked it.  Started the skaven, but the high elfs are still on the sprues.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on March 16, 2017, 10:53:34 PM
Thanks! They are indeed my buds. Stick together like glue. My wife's daughter just showed me a pic of them curled up sleeping together. A mass of calico. 😸

I am indeed happy with the new steampunks. They have grown on me and I like the comment that there is something for everyone. Already thinking of a steampunk, fyreslayer , traditional army group. Underground , regular ground and airships plus Sharkbelly's subs has got it all covered.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on March 18, 2017, 04:38:44 PM
Oh no... Why must everything get retwisted and made different to beyond comprehension?

Why not keep a few things proper fantasy? I fear to invest in what may turn out to get some really new twisted aesthetics or get the He-Man treatment. Something for everyone?

There are many cool models. But so far none of the new models have been beautiful. I liked the 6th ed wood elves. Grace and beauty. Now, so far the new minis of WE somehow followed the line, but were beefier.
So when the new official minis for the Wanderers come I believe we will see more things similar to the Shadowkin.

If the three aelven types were meant to be anything but stopgap, we should have seen some proper aelf fluff by now. But we are left with almost nothing, a few lines on a pair of pages.

It could be seen as a saving grace that they reused the Island of Blood set. But what does it tell us? Nothing but that GW had a large stock and decided to try and get rid of it. When that is gone. GW can redo them into something completley different.

Oh, I just wish I could find some hope. I sooo want to get reborn and love the new setting but it holds no promises...

Please, GW. Release some classic aelves so I can gain my trust in you back.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on March 18, 2017, 05:19:32 PM
Sorry to be a bummer Mathi but I fear you wait in vain. The only things that will remain are the Legasy scrowls for the old models. Everything is changing so hoping for a return is kind of hopeless. I liken my life to a house with many rooms. Each one being like a former life. Every now and again we can walk into a room that once was but that's all it is. Something as petty as a hobby doesn't seem  to warrant a special room but it has one anyways as it was a huge deal for my son and me but it's gone. Either we embrace the new or let it go. I choose to embrace it and look forward to its rewards. Your son has alluded to liking the new system. I would ride that train as far as it will go if I could do it again.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on March 18, 2017, 05:52:23 PM
@Mathi,
Well, first, there's actually 5 types* of elves with high elves beingng split into the most sub-factions with the most prominent being the Eldritch Council,  Swifthawk Agents and Order Draconis. The first two get further fluff in the redone island of blood set and Shadows over Hammerhal as well as the Council's presence in the Phoenicium city. City of secrets took a bigger look at the Exiles (dark elves) and how they run their "legal shipping" operations in Sigmar's cities.

As for Wanderers, i doubt they'll be done like the Shadowkin. Their race has been humbled by fleeing the realm of life and returned to it pleading for Alarielle's forgiveness and have taken to wandering the wilds of the other realms trying to undo the chaos taint while harmonizing with those lands.

So Wanderers will probably get a varied-nature nomad treatment than the shadowy forest assassins of the past.(with how popular Breath of the Wild is I wouldn't be surprised if they take inspiration from it on how one elf can go from bow-shooting elk rider to fire resistant-armored knight on horseback, undead or otherwise for his mount)

With the Phoenicium city, realm of light and Teclis' and Tyrion's whereabouts unknown there's still a ton of stuff to uncover about the elves.

I'd also advise giving GW time to get to it all, that "something for everyone" was pointing to the fact the alliance books combine to have about 60 sub-factions they are in the process of fleshing out bit-by-bit as they also work on the new factions and a progressive storyline.

Final note, my internet connection is buggy right now but there's alot of new AoS news and leaks that I'll be posting later. :)

*(five types of Aelves: Sylvaneth, Wanderers, Exiles, Shadowkin,  High Elves)

@Artoban's Ghost, 

I wouldn't say that, remember that AoS was planned out back in 2011-2012 so many things in 8th were planned to go into AoS (Demigryphs, sky-cutters, iron breakers, etc.) and we've seen the older stuff like ghouls and savage orcs reworked new and potent sub-factions.




Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on March 18, 2017, 08:25:38 PM
Good point and as always explained in a positive and thoughtful manner.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Warlord on March 19, 2017, 06:51:10 AM
Spliting high elves to me was just a way to utilise all the models, but in the vein of smaller subfactions that are the appeal right now. I dont feel it counts... however interested in some ways to see how it all turns out...
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on March 19, 2017, 10:30:56 AM
But those smaller subfactions can hardly be playable! No selection of units really. Wanderers looks more like a solid list. Order Draconis have like... Dragons and Dragon princes and no infantry. No to mention the phoenix temple or what it is called.

The most laughable sub faction is Lion rangers. One unit! Now, White lions are dead cool but... No hero either... So, it seems very unplayable.

IF the new Dawnspire box is really meant to be a serious expanison and not just a way of getting rid of old models, they seem like a proper choice for a collection. At least I can make all my spearelves into Spireguards.

But I remain sceptical about that last one. It is just a redone box, nothing new. So it smells of "DAMN! We have ended up with all these unsellable old starter boxes! Swiftly, write up some shenanigans so we can pushsell them onto the unwitting youth and get them away from the shelves!"
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on March 19, 2017, 05:39:16 PM
Indeed, the problem there was that was before matched play and they were building a narrative more than balanced armies.

It's likely any Aelf battletome will either combine them or give bonuses for using them together. I'm hoping the Azyrheim Lancehost becomes it's own thing or takes in the Order Draconis, it's also interesting to know that their first campaign was in the realm of fire where we first hear about human kingdoms surviving while under chaos' rule but still resisting. One of which is kingdom of Volpone which lost a large army of knights and has a sacred river. So a army of human and aelf knights aided a land filled with more knights, something good can come of that.

The Swifthawk Agents are probably the safest bet, besides their starter, as the grand alliance book gives them more detail than the other subs, they are rebuilding their lost sky fortresses, they have the sky-cutter which was a AoS pre-planned model in 8th and there's a recent focus on sky armies in the lore with Destruction having the most with three groups and Order only having the Overlords and Aelves. So they're likely to get something.

With the general handbook 2 coming out we'll see more battletomes as well so here's hoping one of them's for the aelves.

Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on March 20, 2017, 12:23:50 AM
That do sound a bit av hopeful. Shame my old gaming buddy Will not touch AoS with a bargepole.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on March 22, 2017, 10:17:55 AM
Hey lads, quite a bit of stuff to show here:

Quote from: Warhams-77 690078 9262177 null
Some more GAMA-pics

photos: Michael Mingers - Ulisses Spiele (via Brueckenkopf-online)

(http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/GAMA-Trade-Show-Mingers-1.jpg)

(http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/GAMA-Trade-Show-Mingers-2.jpg)

(http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/GAMA-Trade-Show-Mingers-3.jpg)

(http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/GAMA-Trade-Show-Mingers-10.jpg)

(http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/GAMA-Trade-Show-Mingers-11.jpg)

(http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/GAMA-Trade-Show-Mingers-4.jpg)

(http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/GAMA-Trade-Show-Mingers-13.jpg)

(http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/GAMA-Trade-Show-Mingers-14.jpg)

Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on March 22, 2017, 10:25:34 AM
Quote from: BrookM 690078 9261614 dcc93dbd37e355e57fa74f92db520a9d.jpg
Oh, this is fucking gorgeous:

(https://17890-presscdn-0-51-pagely.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Kharadron_outofarmour-e1489945433284.jpg)
Quote from: Mymearan 690078 9261616 2bf8706c263775725193980811454140.jpg
(https://s8.postimg.org/hdpo4hgut/IMG_0308.jpg)

Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on March 22, 2017, 10:33:17 AM

Quote from: shinros 690078 9258722 8824b0cebd6520409dea2c724b2a0a64.jpg
New image talking about the kharadron "code"

(https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p480x480/17353107_599881650208632_6120350085467010638_n.jpg?oh=19845fc841502a6af456655eb49d73fc&oe=596CDADD)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on March 22, 2017, 10:44:39 AM
Quote from: wellofeternity 690078 9258195 793475037aefa6d8b6b60268db5768e5.jpg
Yeah.
And more: http://wellofeternitypl.blogspot.com/2017/03/news-17-03-2017-kharadron-overlords.html
(http://i.imgur.com/nWWIA3S.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/7nbw9uu.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/vCAl8Or.jpg)


In other news we should expect Shadowkin leaks in one or two days. Also, ShadeSpire will not be a Mordheim game but closer to a expandable Gorechosen. The Mordheim game is rumored for 2018.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on March 22, 2017, 10:45:38 AM

As for great Fan-made content we have the final works on a HoS co-op.

Quote from: FitzChevalric 715458 9254481 null
It's finished, i included all changes and put all secrets in a secret guide.

Introduction and Secrets: https://www.dropbox.com/s/s3mm0davchny2sg/0.%20Shadows%20over%20Hammerhal.pdf?dl=0
Dungeon 1: https://www.dropbox.com/s/7337cm849kyuckq/1.%20The%20Catacombs.pdf?dl=0
Dungeon 2: https://www.dropbox.com/s/wdl9h1q2f8iwpgt/2.%20Ancient%20Halls.pdf?dl=0
Dungeon 3: https://www.dropbox.com/s/9xoq7gxiadsunur/3.%20Branching%20of%20the%20Ways.pdf?dl=0
Dungeon 4: https://www.dropbox.com/s/sk6ew0k43o0ifbz/4.%20The%20Vile%20Dungeon.pdf?dl=0
Dungeon 5: https://www.dropbox.com/s/2sp8oqntl58mn8f/5.%20Halls%20of%20Blood.pdf?dl=0
Dungeon 6: https://www.dropbox.com/s/fk6dlxeo4jd5ftq/6.%20The%20Grinding%20Gear.pdf?dl=0
Dungeon 7: https://www.dropbox.com/s/kg9c9ysurfcyjgc/7.%20The%20Auction%20Hall.pdf?dl=0
Dungeon 8: https://www.dropbox.com/s/cjrwxmyy712en5s/8.%20The%20Sorcerer%27s%20Lair.pdf?dl=0

And as I put on the Round Table a unofficial Bretonnian Battletome and soon-to-be-released Tomb kings battletome that Adepticon is allowing to be used:

http://www.roundtable-bretonnia.org/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=87&func=view&catid=28&id=171241#171241

Thanks for reading, lots of amazing stuff! :biggriin:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Leonard on March 22, 2017, 12:16:57 PM
I can't wait for the Kharadron to drop, they might form a pretty sweet combination on the battlefield with my Empire forces. Haven't been excited about new armies in a while. I'm worried what the larger ships will cost though  :icon_eek:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on March 22, 2017, 12:46:44 PM
I can't wait for the Kharadron to drop, they might form a pretty sweet combination on the battlefield with my Empire forces. Haven't been excited about new armies in a while.

Agreed! This looks very cool. Love the bretonian book as well. Can't wait for tomb kings. Always had a soft spot for TK.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on March 23, 2017, 08:49:22 AM
I've only recently warmed to the TK as I play games with that emphasis of undead warriors fighting for their ancient fallen kingdom. I think it was the purely desert theme that put me off. If they were shown as other lands and cultures for theme variety then I probably would've been a fan sooner.

Also, sorry for posting the news on multiple posts instead of a single long one. My phone is having problems uploaded all the images. :|
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on March 23, 2017, 08:52:41 AM
Quote from: shinros 719678 9268407 8824b0cebd6520409dea2c724b2a0a64.jpg
Right some images.

[spoiler]
(http://i.imgur.com/1k8iBQF.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/KWIl8Pc.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/0xlNggc.jpg)[/spoiler]

The core-set looks to be Stormcast vs Khorne but boy do they drop the undead hint. :biggriin:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on March 23, 2017, 08:55:09 AM
Quote from: RiTides 719678 9268205 31276ec79e3e011f7f85d14bbf810323.png
Shadespire pics from the demo:

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2017/3/23/865864-.JPG) (https://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/865864-.html)

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2017/3/23/865867-.PNG) (https://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/865867-.html)

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2017/3/23/865866-.JPG) (https://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/865866-.html)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on March 23, 2017, 08:56:27 AM
Quote from: shinros 719678 9268400 8824b0cebd6520409dea2c724b2a0a64.jpg
Direct link video. Digging the art snippets also I think the music is kinda hinting the themes death is going for in AOS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=26&v=DIN81rrpC3g
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on March 23, 2017, 08:58:20 AM
Quote from: shinros 719678 9268347 8824b0cebd6520409dea2c724b2a0a64.jpg
Better image from bells of lost souls.

(http://pro.bols.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/spirehero-1.jpg)

(https://www.belloflostsouls.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/spirehero-2.jpg)

(https://www.belloflostsouls.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/spirehero-3.jpg)

Really digging the other sculpts as well, and I like the female stormcast kept with the same style of gear.

(https://www.belloflostsouls.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/spirehero-3a.jpg)

(https://www.belloflostsouls.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/spirehero-2a.jpg)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on March 23, 2017, 09:02:25 AM
Then there's a tease at the Shadowkin who are set to be revealed soon.

Quote from: Ghaz 709691 9266820 61329169faf765a42754bd489768d085.jpg
(https://17890-presscdn-0-51-pagely.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/RumourEngineMar22.jpg)

In the bigger pic you can see that the face looks a little worm-like.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on March 23, 2017, 09:05:57 AM
Kudos to GW for these  :smile2: :

Quote from: Warhams-77 719678 9268339 null
Looks like www.warhammerdigital.com will host the new army builder and other rules content (currently only a referer)

Via Natfka

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-fuIqyIOTOMA/WNLSTAME_bI/AAAAAAABNww/4T6TD2Eq7N0cypc7LGHTZE8sSo1dJL6mgCLcB/s800/44e57317-a369-4335-91de-5b3816eff21c.jpg)

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-9a4tASlQ_K8/WNLSSs3mC7I/AAAAAAABNws/8amJhVI4lxwS5MAsjls8RUqKj8SbxrVIACLcB/s800/36730f8a-ebf2-4142-b0ee-9eb4fe2a48c1.jpg)
Quote from: CMLR 719678 9268418 null
Briefly mentioned on the last page, but it was announced on Warhammer-Community.

Remember Warscroll Builder?

Is going to be official now, with Tony Pacheco (the creator) working alongside GW:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/03/23/warscroll-builder-coming-soon/


^ that part makes me so happy that GW continues to work with the community.  :-D
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on March 24, 2017, 06:42:58 AM
Quote from: kronk 719678 9268956 7c106aeaee40730db7c1e274538821f7.png
So  I played 1 round/turn of shadowspire after the event last night.  I worked all day, drove through Heavy traffic to get my buddy from O'Hare,, and had not eaten for 10 hours at the point, so I was tired and hungry.  I was not terribly focused on the game.  Just so you know where I was.

The minis were decent for push pin style minis (starter box minis).  They said in the announcement there would be more factions and add-ons; they were not sure about more boards.  There were apparently a lot more board options in the box.

You get 4 activations per turn.  You drew 5 action/upgrade cards and 3 victory cards.  The mechanics were I activate a dude, I can play a card to buff it or weaken yours, and you can retaliate with a card.  I can then move, attack something next to me, or charge something (move and attack).  If you charge, then that mini is done.  If you move or hit, you can keep using that dude.  Some have more attacks, some have more health, some do more damage, and some move further.  There were other rules that we did 't bother with in the demo, too.  There were also victory cards.  For example, after the round, if you had a dude stand on an objective, you got a coin.  You could use that to buy an upgrade card like +1 defense or heal 3 wounds or something.

There were stat cards for your dudes.  Normal mode is how you start.  If you "power up" and go "super Scion" or whatever the nerd behind me kept saying, you flipped the card.  The other side had more attacks or sounds or some other benefits.  I was unclear on that mechanic.  Expansions could have more factions, cards, boards, and other stuff.

All in all, it looked like a brutal game.  The guys next to us killed at least 2 of each other's dudes.  Only 1 of my guys died in the round.


Also, guess who my instructor was!

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2017/3/23/865888_sm-Duncan%2C%20Games%20Workshop%2C%20Shadowspire.JPG) (https://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/865888-Duncan%2C%20Games%20Workshop%2C%20Shadowspire.html)


(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2017/3/23/865887_sm-Duncan%2C%20Games%20Workshop%2C%20Shadowspire.JPG) (https://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/865887-Duncan%2C%20Games%20Workshop%2C%20Shadowspire.html)

Lucky! :biggriin:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on March 24, 2017, 06:50:45 AM
Sorry I didn't post the females Stormcast card earlier, had a hard time with the links.

http://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/tgacommunity/monthly_2017_03/FB_IMG_1490235074018.jpg.aed529b2378f3e8f3fd78eb029853662.jpg

Then we get a better look at the mysterious green mask thought to be Shadowkin related, turns out it's more ShadeSpire:

http://i.4cdn.org/tg/1490249687969.jpg

Speaking of which:

Quote from: Chikout 719678 9270640 null
I have news! ( not about 40k though).
From the official Facebook page. 'Warhammer Underworlds is the game. Shadespire is the setting for the first season.'
I wonder if shadow war will also follow this format.

Seasonal expanded game +yearly Silver Tower games + constant AoS main stuff = a whole lot of model goodies. :-D (if 2018 Mordheim rumors turn out true then that's 4 sources of AoS models)

Finally there's my friend Shinros' updated lore thread, go towards the bottom for his SoH lore review:

https://forums.totalwar.com/discussion/183294/aos-lore-thread/p18
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on March 25, 2017, 11:25:06 PM
Looking good! I was reading thruout shrinos site. Looks really good and lots of info.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Xathrodox86 on March 27, 2017, 02:21:57 PM
Female Stormcast. Cool! :blush:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on April 08, 2017, 03:28:05 PM
Khorne and Tzeentch generals can now make use of two iconic monsters of the Realm of Chaos in their armies. The Mutalith Vortex Beast and Slaughterbrute have just had their warscrolls updated with new keywords to allow them be included in forces using those Allegiance Abilities: A great excuse to bring the big guys out of retirement or add a new monster to your collection:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/04/08/vortex-and-slaughter-the-beasts-are-back/

Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on April 11, 2017, 11:17:42 AM
Oh, that's scary. If the rumor of there being a new summer campaign this year is true then I know what chaos is pushing with. :ph34r: (hopefully the rumors pointing to new Skaven happen after the campaign, for Sigmar's sake.)

Also, Overlords price leaked by Lady Atia.
Quote
Arkonaut Company £27.50 ~ $34.00

Book £25 ~ $31.00

Cards £10 ~ $12.50

Frigate (medium sized ship) £50 ~ $62.00

Admiral £15 ~ 18.50

White dwarf review of their abilities:

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Has there been any further information released about the rules for the Overlords?
I have the White Dwarf on me right now. Extrapolating from the battle report.

Kharadron Ironclads have access to artifacts which can do stuff, one of them turns a weapon into The Last Word, which can fire whenever an enemy ends a charge within 1/2" of the ship.

Frigates and Ironclads can transport, Gunhaulers can't.

Arkanauts can deploy on foot.

Code addenda form skyport "Traits". Barak-Zilfin can reroll to hit and to wound rolls of one against flying targets, all skyvessels get a 6 for run moves, and their skyvessels ignore mortal wounds on a six.

Passengers aboard a skyvessel disembark when it's destroyed, some of them die, but it looks like a decent chance for them to live.

Skyvessels have detonation drills (the afflicted unit cannot attack until the end of the combat phase), Gunhaulers can have frag charges for close quarters. No exact rules on the frags.

Navigators can release an aetherstorm, causing flying units to only move half range if they're within 18" of the navigator.

Most things in the army have Movement 4.

Aethermatic volley cannons presumably have 5 shots, 10 with The Last Word against chargers.

Skyvessels can drop bombs on chargers.


That's all we know so far, I believe. It's not very specific, and mostly "Well no gak" tier stuff.


Addendum:
(https://s14.postimg.org/9lm32tylt/IMG_3813.jpg)

And cool model designs I find on Reddit. :-D
https://www.reddit.com/r/ageofsigmar/comments/63ji7l/unicorn_chaos_chariot_cc/

https://www.reddit.com/r/ageofsigmar/comments/636h2w/start_of_my_khorne_iron_horde/

https://www.reddit.com/r/ageofsigmar/comments/632waj/chaos_hinterlands_warband_ready_for_action/

https://www.reddit.com/r/ageofsigmar/comments/6322yi/my_bastiladon_star_lasers_incoming/

https://www.reddit.com/r/ageofsigmar/comments/61l3uz/you_can_join_if_you_want_to_you_can_bring_your/
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on April 13, 2017, 11:15:07 AM
New faction for ShadeSpire to be announced very soon. (Betting on undead)

Quote from: Ghaz 690078 9303824 61329169faf765a42754bd489768d085.jpg
From the Age of Sigmar Facebook page.

(https://scontent.fluk1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/17883949_1305418562870304_1939379892811827473_n.jpg?oh=7dfbf14a2d0c7f8df8e7b61fb67c6b95&oe=599A1778)

Also, GW is stepping up their game with community input for narratives with a big event:

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/723322.page
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on April 13, 2017, 11:30:03 AM
Yep, it's death. :-D

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer/comments/654u0p/new_faction_for_warhammer_underworlds_revealed/
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on April 13, 2017, 11:56:25 AM
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/04/13/warhammer-underworlds-shadespire-new-faction-revealed/

With their reliance on tactics and leadership it'd be pretty easy to make a Freeguild force with their rules. Just need to add a Nagash worship handwave for any undead shenanigans. :-D
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Xathrodox86 on April 13, 2017, 12:53:08 PM
These skellingtons look really good! :smile2:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on April 13, 2017, 01:01:02 PM
These skellingtons look really good! :smile2:

Holy crap! Am I crazy or do these guys rock?!
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Dietrich von Brandt on April 13, 2017, 01:03:23 PM
They have a lot more character to them than the older skeletons, that's for sure; the different poses leave them looking a hell of a lot more dynamic.

They'll make for some nice, early Sigmar vs. Nagash forces in the Old World.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Victor on April 14, 2017, 12:01:46 AM
The first AOS-era fantasy miniatures that I actually quite like.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on April 14, 2017, 12:04:49 AM
These skellingtons look really good! :smile2:

Holy crap! Am I crazy or do these guys rock?!

I don't think skeletons listen to rock, this might be more their jam. :-P

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iUR-sg5jRBQ
(Well, this or death metal.)

Also, skeleton boxes have been getting the Sold Out icon on the GW site. Likely a sign of repackaging with bases and price change.

Then we have more awesome Overlord stuff.

https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/1886#disqus_thread

Quote from: Verviedi 690078 9305925 9187351146494ae05f776d6df9ac1224.jpg
Here's more images from the stream. Scanned the entire thing and pulled out all relevant (image) info.

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[/spoiler]
Quote from: Verviedi 690078 9305396 9187351146494ae05f776d6df9ac1224.jpg
Images from the above link.

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(https://warofsigmar.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/blogging/picture3/1886/dwarf1.jpg)

(https://warofsigmar.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/blogging/picture4/1886/dwarf2.jpg)

(https://warofsigmar.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/blogging/picture5/1886/dwarf3.jpg)

(https://warofsigmar.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/blogging/picture6/1886/dwarf4.jpg)

(https://warofsigmar.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/blogging/picture7/1886/dwarf5.jpg)

(https://warofsigmar.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/blogging/picture8/1886/dwarf6.jpg)

(https://warofsigmar.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/blogging/picture9/1886/dwarf7.jpg)

(https://warofsigmar.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/blogging/picture10/1886/dwarf8.jpg)

(https://warofsigmar.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/blogging/picture11/1886/dwarf9.jpg)
[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gneisenau on April 14, 2017, 12:09:53 AM
Just saw this. The champion looks great!

The others aren't shabby either, though it bothers me that their arms are too thick.

Edit: Skipped a page there. I meant the undead.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on April 14, 2017, 12:16:22 AM
Indeed, definitely going to be my warband for ShadeSpire. (Also my first non-Order purchase ever  :-D )

Also, regarding the Overlord posts, did anyone else catch the "guidelines" part? :icon_wink:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jl0hMfqNQ-g
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on April 14, 2017, 12:18:22 AM
Quote from Baron:
Quote from: Artobans Ghost on April 13, 2017, 01:01:02 PM
Quote from: Xathrodox86 on April 13, 2017, 12:53:08 PM
These skellingtons look really good! :smile2:

Holy crap! Am I crazy or do these guys rock?!

I don't think skeletons listen to rock, this might be more their jam. :-P

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iUR-sg5jRBQ
(Well, this or death metal.)


Ha!ha! That is awesome. Watched the whole thing 😺!

These Kharadron are magnificent. Just another contingent on the wish list.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on April 14, 2017, 12:24:51 AM
Very true, I love that the Redcoat-colored ones are all about guns, faith and sticking to tradition.  :-D
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Dietrich von Brandt on April 14, 2017, 12:40:41 AM
I can't wait to see how people convert them for 40k. It'll be nice to see a resurgence of Squat and Demiurg armies.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on April 14, 2017, 01:51:12 AM
Probably gonna pale in comparison to what Sharkbelly does with them for his armada. :biggriin:

Alot of the Hinterlands players, like the creator Bottle, are gonna have a field day in making them merchant and privateer forces to mix with the big cities like Hammerhal and Greywater.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on April 14, 2017, 06:53:18 AM
I'm really excited for the Shadespire game!
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on April 14, 2017, 08:13:35 AM
Indeed!  :-D

I'm hoping we'll see more than four factions before it releases. They could tie-in Shadowkin and Skaven for end of the year warbands if the rumors pan-out.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on April 15, 2017, 01:39:20 AM
Avast! The lords of the skies are here!

Quote from: Ghaz 690078 9306584 61329169faf765a42754bd489768d085.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8opRR48CrO0
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Well the news pics are up at the GWNZ site, but the links go no where yet, so they've yet to put up the minis.

(https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/touts/2017-04-15/Homepage/Header%20Banner//KharadronOverlordsENG_Slot1.jpg)
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(https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/touts/2017-04-15/Homepage/Header%20Banner//KharadronOverlordsArmyBundleENG_Slot3.jpg)
https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/1892#disqus_thread
https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/1893#disqus_thread
https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/1894#disqus_thread
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on April 15, 2017, 01:44:23 AM
Then we have the epic artwork:

http://wellofeternitypl.blogspot.kr/2017/04/artworks-from-age-of-sigmar-kharadron-overlords.html

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Now please excuse me while I repeatedly faint at how amazing some of this art is.

Now this isn't Overlord art but from the blades of Khorne book but I just wanted to point out how great a argument it makes in not sending skeletons to fight things that eat bones. :biggriin:

http://i.imgur.com/BDt0iiI.jpg
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on April 15, 2017, 02:21:46 AM
The YouTube video describing the background is really worth watching. Can't help but be excited by this and how this seamingly completely new army is tied to the old mentality of the dwarves. I love the charters and the seven points of prosperity and the fact these guys dumped their reliance on god and kings for pure survival , as they were completely let down by those they believed in. The fluff really takes shape. So many possibilities now.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on April 16, 2017, 01:16:12 AM
Indeed, I'm finding their lore really compelling the more I learn about them. Even the little stuff really helps paint a better picture of them and the mortal realms as a whole.

(https://warofsigmar.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/blogging/picture5/1892/ruler1.jpg)

Also, new video up from their perspective. You can just feel the Overlord adjusting his monocle while he narrates. :biggriin:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgtJFPsBDsQ
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on April 16, 2017, 01:37:36 AM
Excellent! 👆
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on April 22, 2017, 11:28:51 AM
Karadon Overloards added to WH AoS app. Have fun! Just uploaded it
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on April 22, 2017, 03:18:30 PM
Wow, this W:AoS stuff is so much more steam punk in style with those dwarfs in armored masks that look like the Storm Crud eternals wearing masks except shorter.

It is certainly a type of fantasy, but in a different direction than the Olde World style.

I like dwarfs more without masks.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Iyen on April 23, 2017, 06:26:41 PM
Glad to see I'm not the only one who likes "barak thryng" for their Guns, Faith, and Tradition. (They are practically Dwarfs+) also love the red and white, much like my favorite state Reikland   :blush:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Draccan on May 08, 2017, 03:56:07 PM
Is it just me or are these pictures dangerously close to 40k ...?
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on May 08, 2017, 04:45:22 PM
I've actually seen some of the gun ships painted up to look more like traditional blimps and I think it's a pretty awesome look. I was generally a fan when I first saw them but not super excited. Now I've read a fair bit of the fluff they've put out for it and it's won me over. It's a really neat idea, and a really interesting 'evolution' for these dwarves to go in.

It's a whole new world now. They've actually started to build lore up for it and it's turning out pretty interesting in my opinion at least.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on May 08, 2017, 05:41:30 PM
Quote gankom
It's a whole new world now. They've actually started to build lore up for it and it's turning out pretty interesting in my opinion at least.


Agree with the above. The Lore is starting to flesh out and I like it.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on May 16, 2017, 09:53:05 AM
Age of Sigmar Skirmish should feature this week on Wednesday's Warhammer Live Twitch stream


And then it goes on pre-order on Saturday

Age of Sigmar Skirmish Pre-Orders May 20th, Release May 27
Age of Sigmar Skirmish Rulebook £ 6.00
New rules small-scale gaming

Khorne Bloodbound Frenzied Goretribe £ 40.00
5 Blood Warriors
5 Wrathmongers
1 Aspiring Deathbringer

Flesh Eater Court Nightfeast Hunters £ 40.00
20 Ghouls
3 Horrors

Ironjawz Weirdnob Warband £ 40.00
5 Ardboyz
5 Brutes
1 Wierdnob Shaman

Stormcast Eternal Hammerstrike Brethren £ 40.00
3 Liberators
2 Retributors
3 Prosecutors
1 Knight-Questor


Scenery: Pre-Orders May 20th, Released June 3rd
Battle Mat: Soulblight Necropolis £ 50.00
Citadel Scenery-Battle Mat with grave yard print

Sigmarite Mausoleum £ 50.00
Citadel Scenery- 2x Garden of Morr set
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Sharkbelly on May 16, 2017, 10:23:22 AM
Soulblight necropolis battle mat? I can't wait to see it!
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on May 22, 2017, 03:03:12 PM
(https://spikeybits.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/SoulblightNecropolisBattleMat01.jpg)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on May 22, 2017, 03:24:06 PM
Yep 👆!
Pretty nice and I already preordered the skirmish rules. On another note , I am doing some work at my mentors house (fantasy warhammer) and too say the least he is/was old school (anti AoS)  but just found out he was attending an AoS tournament this weekend. Was top of the charts in tourney standings in Canada and I went to a lot of tournaments with him. Really interested in his feedback from this event. 
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Sharkbelly on May 23, 2017, 12:59:15 AM
I'm liking the looks of this. This might just be what finally gets my local group interested.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on May 23, 2017, 06:58:33 AM
pre-ordered mine also, it's a booklet for only 8 Euro so no pain there
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on May 27, 2017, 02:05:17 PM
Hot on the heels of the announcment of WFRP 4th edition from Cubicle 7, it appears they are also doing an Age of Sigmar RPG

http://cubicle7.co.uk/ (http://cubicle7.co.uk/)


http://warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php/topic,52136.0.html
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Xathrodox86 on May 29, 2017, 11:20:37 AM
Hot on the heels of the announcment of WFRP 4th edition from Cubicle 7, it appears they are also doing an Age of Sigmar RPG

http://cubicle7.co.uk/ (http://cubicle7.co.uk/)


http://warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php/topic,52136.0.html

I seriously hope that it will be everything that fans of AoS want, and that it will broaden the fluff of this game. I mean, this is a perfect chance for AoS to actually develop into a better, broader game.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on May 30, 2017, 12:53:04 PM
Just finished up the skirmish rules and I have to say I like them! I think this is actually how I see myself having most games. Only a 4x4 table needed and easy to throw in the units you want. As long as they belong to the same faction. Shorter hit and run games. Looking forward to it.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on May 31, 2017, 08:38:52 AM
I'll have to see when I can get a game in, but I do like the concept.. we'll see how it plays
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Xathrodox86 on May 31, 2017, 10:51:59 AM
So is AoS skirmish a new Mordheim?
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on May 31, 2017, 11:12:40 AM
Yes and no.  It's not more like a way to play quick and simple Kill Team style games with the AoS ruleset.

It does have a way of breaking down units into individual models, so in that respect it is like Mordheim
And there is a campaign system, but it's fairly limited, and mostly geared around earning more points to buy more models for the warband.

But there is no real individual progression, or customisation, and feels like as a basic a Skirmish system as could be made.

I still think it will be good fun for quick pick up games in a lunch hour

Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on May 31, 2017, 01:18:46 PM
and it can be used as a prelude to the Path to Glory warbands
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on June 01, 2017, 07:53:38 AM
We also know that Specialist Games do have Mordheim on the agenda in the long run, but Blood Bowl has far exceeded their expectations, so they are supporting that, and they have delayed Adeptus Titanicus, which most rumours say is so it can be done in plastic, rather than Forge World resin.

I think Mordheim was at the end of the list which included Battlefleet Gothic and Necromunda.   Based on how popular Shadow War: Armageddon sold, and how much people played it, even as a stripped down version of Necrumuna, you can bet that game and Mordheim will do well for specialist games, but I think the successes of the earlier releases may put those games off from being developed for a while.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Xathrodox86 on June 01, 2017, 08:35:31 AM
I did try SW: A and absolutely loved it. I also hope for a kickass version of Mordheim, with more stramlined rules. I won't mind if it'll be set in AoS universe.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on June 02, 2017, 09:10:00 AM
I expect Mordheim when it comes from Specialist Games to be set in Mordheim in the Empire, in the Old World of the World that was, with a pretty familiar set of rules for that game.

Shadow War: Armageddon largely borrowed the Necromunda core rules, and a simplified campaign and warband, mostly I think to sell the new Sector Mechanicus terrain rather than to create a new game system, but by calling it Shadow War, it gives them the option in the future to do a sequel when they do more scenery using the same kind of ruleset

I'm not sure we'll see a streamlined version of the Mordheim ruleset when it comes to an Age of Sigmar modular scenery set.  I think because Mordheim was mostly based off WFB 5th edition, in the same way Necromunda was based on 2nd Ed 40k.   If they do anything it will be ruleset like the current Skirmish rules released.  I don't think they would want to work out WFB profiles for all the new factions that have never appeared in WFB that Age of Sigmar now has.   Shadow War still mostly used the profiles straight out of 40k

Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Victor on June 25, 2017, 12:24:46 AM
I had to post this somewhere.  :icon_lol:

http://wastort.deviantart.com/art/My-opinion-on-AoS-683289757
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Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on June 25, 2017, 02:20:13 AM
Well at least his taste in clothes is good. :icon_wink:

In actual news we got leaks on the new GH cover and a new Paths to Glory book is on the way.

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http://www.warhammer-forum.com/index.php?/topic/231038-calendrier-des-sorties-aos/&page=130

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From Warhammer Community (https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/06/19/walk-the-path-to-glorygw-homepage-post-2/):

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Also, it looks like the ShadeSpire game will have 6 warbands when it's released with new Shadowkin and Skaven apart of them leaving only one unknown.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on June 25, 2017, 12:30:31 PM
Looking good!!
Also, welcome back! We can scrub your name from the MIA thread in the back table lol. You and whitey have returned 😸
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on June 26, 2017, 12:49:47 AM
Haha, sorry for my long absence.  Nice of you guys to take notice, though. :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Warlord on June 26, 2017, 02:39:47 AM
My problems are, its been so long, and all the name splits are alien to me, and stuff was missing for the longest time, that I don't want to bother to try and learn. Im glad they are bringing out all the supplements and everything, but I cant go back in.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Xathrodox86 on June 26, 2017, 09:36:42 AM
Glad that you're back Baron. :happy:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Victor on June 26, 2017, 11:53:38 AM
My problems are, its been so long, and all the name splits are alien to me, and stuff was missing for the longest time, that I don't want to bother to try and learn. Im glad they are bringing out all the supplements and everything, but I cant go back in.

What really puts me off from all these AOS rules is how confusing all the releases are to someone like me, who is/was only mildly interested (at best!) in the rules and who barely follows all the news. To me it feels like they are releasing a new variation of the game every 6 months. Then there are the Alliance books .. then there are seperat battletomes, and (a) seperate game(s)? This development started with the End Times already, but now they took it up to eleven.

I don't know what is what and which books are essential and at this point I can't really be bothered to find out. AOS is (turning into) the Call of Duty of tabletop games. Similar to all the PC Games with their premium memberships, season passes and DLCs, GW is fragmenting the playerbase even more. Personally, I can't be bothered to get into a tabletop game, when the rules and meta of the game seem to change so frequently. This is beyond silly, especially considering the time investment required to build even a small army of miniatures to play the damn game.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on June 26, 2017, 04:43:53 PM
Nothing's changed in AoS.

Grand Alliance books: gave background info on the armies and physical warscrolls.

General's handbook: added points and allowed use of relics, traits and alliances.

Battletomes post-Sylvaneth: added race specific spells and items.

Battletomes post-Stormcast update: added lore-based army bonuses.

Spin-off games like Silver Tower and Skirmish: let's you take your models and play in new ways with them outside of AoS.

ShadeSpire: self-contained game with it's own warbands that has no affect on AoS.

So no huge changes to the core game,  just additions to enjoy the game with though not necessary to play it. If you're playing "matched"(points) all you need is the General's handbook and maybe your army's battletome if you want extra perks. Otherwise just the AoS app/warscrolls and your models are all you need.

Edit: forgot there's a Warscroll builder on their Community site with the model points, so you don't need the GH book to play.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on June 26, 2017, 07:14:40 PM
I find it similar to when they released the generals compendium for fantasy. The core game is the same, these other books are just a consolidated book of rules for different version. Like the specialist game. So you've got the mordheim version, the path to glory warband version, etc.

Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on June 26, 2017, 08:05:07 PM
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From Warhammer Community (https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/06/26/generals-handbook-2017-june26gw-homepage-post-3/):

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[size=13]The General’s Handbook 2017 – Announced[/size]

The General’s Handbook release last year proved to be perhaps the most important book released so far for Warhammer Age of Sigmar.

It introduced the revolutionary concept of the 3 Ways to Play – open, narrative and matched play – and was packed with a massive amount of content for any Warhammer Age of Sigmar fan. You gamers out there loved it, and we saw an explosion of Warhammer Age of Sigmar gaming across the world, from narrative campaigns to awesome multiplayer wars, and a huge increase in matched play tournaments.

But this book was only ever going to be the beginning.

The General’s Handbook is to be the mechanism by which the game is continually supported every year, and we’re delighted to announce today that a sequel is on the way.

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The General’s Handbook 2017 will again be an invaluable resource for any Warhammer Age of Sigmar gamer.

For open play, the multiplayer rules have been massively expanded, and now include Triumph & Treachery – devious rules for mid-game betrayals.

Narrative players are about to get really spoilt. With Path to Glory soon to become its own stand-alone expansion, this section has been freed up for a huge amount of new content in the 2017 edition. Highlights include rules for siege warfare in the Mortal Realms and Time of War battlefield rules for locations in every realm (even the one’s we haven’t been to yet!).

Matched play is set to get plenty of updates too. These include new Battleplans, new rules of one, and updated points for units in every faction in the Mortal Realms.

Perhaps most excitingly of all are the new Allegiance Abilities. These are much expanded from those four Grand Alliance army-traits from the previous General’s Handbook. The new book will cover Allegiance Abilities for the likes of Fyreslayers, Seraphon, Slaaneshi hosts, Nighthaunts and over a dozen others.

This book is going to be seriously awesome for any Warhammer Age of Sigmar fan.

For those of you with the current edition, loads of the content in there – such as the battleplans, narrative games and campaign overviews – will remain valuable gaming content, so it will be well worth keeping hold of.

The General’s Handbook 2017 is on the way later this year, and like it’s predecessor, will come in an affordable paperback format.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Warlord on June 27, 2017, 07:04:26 AM
I looked at the warscroll builder app and had no idea what it was all about.
To me, its learning a whole new game, but with some models I already have, and a bunch I dont. The rules, names of things, stat lines are all different. It requires multiple books or supplements, as opposed to incremental edition changes in warhammer where previous books retained meaning.

It is too much for me to be honest. Maybe its because I am older. Maybe its because sometimes I am resistant to change. Maybe its because I have no one to game with me.

I am glad it seems simple to you baron. But to me, it is a hell of a lot of stuff for a 2 year old game. I see no reason why i should start it over any other, because it requires new learning, models and supplements. My trust in their game system is gone, and my interest in the fluff is not there.

I'm not trying to be difficult, and I really want to like it. I like some of the new models, they are fantastic and imaginative. Wood elves and insects, dwarf sky pirates, all cool stuff. Its just too hard now for me.

But i guess thats who i felt about warmahordes too.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on June 27, 2017, 07:17:32 AM
Well to each their own. It's your hobby, you should decide how you enjoy it. :::cheers:::

As for the GH news, very interesting they make sure to mention the Slaanesh allegiance. The new Campaign this year is looking very likely to revolve around the dark prince.

This bolds ill for Sigmar's cities, though. The nobility already show corruption in having expensive banquets and half-naked servants to cater to their whims. With Slaanesh being freed the smooth expansion of civilization might grind to a halt.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Warlord on June 27, 2017, 10:43:30 AM
Do you think that could mean more fundamental sigmarite type releases, like flagellant options?
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on June 28, 2017, 03:57:01 AM
Possibly if things go south for the realms by Slaanesh's return.

Their importance lore-wise has gone down due to civilized armies taking their place and fewer recruits of disenfranchised survivors for them. Kinda telling that they've gone from erstwhile allies waiting in caves and ruins across the realms to strike back at chaos to mostly now being used to purify the ground of the new cities with their blood by flagellating themselves.

The skirmish implies this too as the journey to the city destroys large armies and leaves few survivors. Their absence means there's not enough to survive the trip.

With Slaanesh causing the corruption of excess and pleasure again their fanatical type would be needed again to bring Sigmar's faith back to his cities and maintain it with their devotion.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on June 28, 2017, 08:41:01 AM
Where is this stuff about Slaanesh coming from?   I've not read anything about that. 

As for Devoted of Sigmar, I don't know about flagellants, but Witch Hunters are certainly expanding, with the Order of Azyr, as mentioned in City of Secrets
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Sharkbelly on June 28, 2017, 12:46:19 PM
From here:

Perhaps most excitingly of all are the new Allegiance Abilities. These are much expanded from those four Grand Alliance army-traits from the previous General’s Handbook. The new book will cover Allegiance Abilities for the likes of Fyreslayers, Seraphon, Slaaneshi hosts, Nighthaunts and over a dozen others.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on June 28, 2017, 01:32:11 PM
From here:

Perhaps most excitingly of all are the new Allegiance Abilities. These are much expanded from those four Grand Alliance army-traits from the previous General’s Handbook. The new book will cover Allegiance Abilities for the likes of Fyreslayers, Seraphon, Slaaneshi hosts, Nighthaunts and over a dozen others.

I meant where did Baron Von Klatz get this from
Well to each their own. It's your hobby, you should decide how you enjoy it. :::cheers:::

As for the GH news, very interesting they make sure to mention the Slaanesh allegiance. The new Campaign this year is looking very likely to revolve around the dark prince.

This bolds ill for Sigmar's cities, though. The nobility already show corruption in having expensive banquets and half-naked servants to cater to their whims. With Slaanesh being freed the smooth expansion of civilization might grind to a halt.

Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on June 28, 2017, 04:30:19 PM

Oh, just alot of Slaanesh activity in the books and a confirmed campaign is making people put the two together.

Also GW's hinted at working on a Slaanesh storyline.

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With the latest info (via Chikout, from WTV livestream) that GW is working on a future Slaanesh release I have zero doubt that after the 40k/AoS Tzeentch products in 2016/2017 and the upcoming Nurgle releases (it looks like 40k and AoS) we will see a similiar treatment to the Slaanesh (Daemons and Emperor Children) ranges and a return to Khorne (40k Angron at least). I'm sure there will be a lot of Chaos releases in the next three years or so.

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There have also already been several hints by Black Library authors that they are working on an upcoming Slaanesh storyline for AoS



Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on June 28, 2017, 08:38:38 PM
I haven't read all the AoS novels, but I have read all the Realmgate Wars campaign books, and while there are mentions of Slaanesh's followers here and there, I've not seen anything prominent enough to make me think it's any more than a mention to stem rumours that Slaanesh is being dropped.  i don't recall anything from City of Secrets, which only one of two novels released this year.

Where is the campaign confirmed? 

I keep track of rumours from many sites and facebook pages, and watch Warhammer Live, and i've seen nothing about a campaign for Age of Sigmar, either in book form or a global one like Season of War last summer.  There is a 40k summer campaign, Fate of Konor coming.   And again, I don't recall anything being mentioned about Slaanesh.

I'm not saying what you're saying isn't true, but I'd like to see the sources for myself. 
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on June 28, 2017, 10:13:32 PM
Haha, that's okay if you question my sources. As a Bretonnian player I know how it feels to get rumor burned. :icon_wink:

Anyway, the most recent Slaanesh hints were from a Slaanesh short story of a warband going after a artifact that could reveal it's location. Seraphon intercepted them but the leader got a glimpse of something in the crystal, it was left unclear if he saw Slaanesh's location. There's also the Hammerhal game that has a Slaanesh lord looking for his master.

So things seem to be pointing to Slaanesh this year.

On the campaign,  you're right, I mistook the announcement of a world-wide community-organised event as one.

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/723322.page?userfilterid=90752

It could be a campaign but it's not definitely stated as one so I jumped the gun on that.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on June 29, 2017, 09:22:55 AM
i got Cheers

Ok, so that looks like this short story, part of the Call of Chaos advent calendar stories.   I might have a read up on those.

http://www.blacklibrary.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar/quick-reads/godless-ebook.html

I need read the Shadows of Hammerhal booklet.  I was going to wait until I got round to playing it, as I was hoping to do a full run through of Silver Tower first.   But that Silver Tower run through went wonky, when one of the players is Slambo, and he levels up so fast, that it means it's nearly impossible to get a respite, and we're getting caught out with so many ambushes and not getting through.  I think we'll have to reset, and choose alternate characters, or give up

Ah, so the Coalescence event was the global thing.  That was independently organised, but endorsed by GW.   I don't know if they will take any story events into account for the background though.   I think the Coalescene is by NEO (Narrative Event Organisers).  They came on WHTV live once, and I believe they are planning a number of one off global narrative events, and some narrative "tournament" events
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on June 29, 2017, 10:29:00 AM
Haha, sorry to here about your Slambo roadblock. Though it sounds like he's working as intended with him being such a community meme. I do hope you get it sorted out though so you can progress, Hammerhal is a real treat and really has alot of depth to it.

Good reasoning on the Coalescence event being the global activity they mentioned. Remains to be seen if any storyline will come from it but rumor-mongers do keep hinting at more big things coming this year so we'll have to see what pans out.

Regardless, the narrative focus does make me happy about all these new directions GW is taking. There seems to always be something amazing around the corner with AoS. :icon_biggrin:

Last note as I've been away for awhile, how many here know about the upcoming Eight Lamentations book?
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on June 29, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
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Last note as I've been away for awhile, how many here know about the upcoming Eight Lamentations book?

Not a thing 😸
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on June 29, 2017, 01:27:23 PM
http://www.blacklibrary.com/coming-soon/september/spear-of-shadows-ebook.html


Book 1 of the Eight Lamentations trilogy

Eight mighty artefacts, crafted by the dark servants of Chaos, blight the Mortal Realms. The Ruinous Powers hunt them – and so do a group of heroes, chosen by Grungni for this dangerous and essential task.

READ IT BECAUSE
It's a different kind of Age of Sigmar story, and the first of a trilogy, at that! A classic quest story with a disparate group of heroes drawn together by fate and unimaginable consequences if they fail… sounds unmissable.


THE STORY
In the beginning, there was fire. And from fire came eight weapons of terrible power, honed to a killing edge by the chosen weaponsmiths of Khorne. Now, as the Mortal Realms echo with the thunder of war, the great powers hunt the eight wherever they might be found – whatever the cost. In a city of prophecy and secrets, Grungni, smith-god of the duardin, gathers together a group of mortal warriors from across the realms in order to seek the first of the eight. But they are not alone in their quest; agents of the Ruinous Powers want the weapon for themselves. Now the race is on, as man, duardin and daemon alike seek to claim the Spear of Shadows...

Written by Josh Reynolds
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on June 29, 2017, 08:14:31 PM
Thank you sir! I love josh Reynolds stuff
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on June 30, 2017, 09:58:50 AM
Reynolds seems to be by far the most prolific author for Age of Sigmar.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Warlord on June 30, 2017, 11:13:14 AM
Interesting story line. I must confess, I only have ever bought / read 2 warhammer novels - Grudge Bearer and Ambassador Chronicles. Both were ok and had memorable bits. Fun trash fiction. People have recommended various gotrek and felix, but the premise doesn't interest me all that much. This story line you just mentioned seems vaguely more interesting.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Baron von Klatz on July 10, 2017, 11:54:19 AM
Josh's stuff is always worth a read. :wink: (so is Chris' novels)

Anyway, new start collecting kits on the way.

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Fyreslayer start collecting, oh myyyyyy gooooooodddddddd!!!!
Fyreslayers and Daemons of Slaanesh at least, but I don't recognize the middle off the top of my head.

At least I think the one to the right is Daemons of Slaanesh...

Recent community site teaser has the Cthulu elves rumors flying again.

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And just a fun bit of narrative I saw on Reddit. :)

http://extrabushybeards.blogspot.fi/2017/07/the-great-book-of-grudges.html?m=1

[Edit]: That middle picture is ogres, btw.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on August 21, 2017, 05:05:31 PM
So, there is a new (additional) starter box coming

(https://17890-presscdn-0-51-pagely.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/AoS-Blightwar-Image1kxdr.jpg)

With a number of old units, but new heroes

(https://17890-presscdn-0-51-pagely.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/AoS-Blightwar-Image2ltbz-e1503084124293.jpg)

(https://17890-presscdn-0-51-pagely.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/AoS-Blightwar-Image3ntoixs-e1503084982282.jpg)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on August 21, 2017, 06:02:15 PM
So, there is a new (additional) starter box coming

(https://17890-presscdn-0-51-pagely.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/AoS-Blightwar-Image1kxdr.jpg)

With a number of old units, but new heroes

(https://17890-presscdn-0-51-pagely.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/AoS-Blightwar-Image2ltbz-e1503084124293.jpg)
By the gods!
(https://17890-presscdn-0-51-pagely.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/AoS-Blightwar-Image3ntoixs-e1503084982282.jpg)

BY THE GODS!!!!
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on August 21, 2017, 06:04:41 PM
It must be fun in Granpa's garden. Even the bait seems to be having fun!!
Incredible model.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Xathrodox86 on August 23, 2017, 12:29:12 PM
The female Stormcast looks really cool. Kinda reminds me of a female version of Primarch Angron from Forgeworld. :-P
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on August 23, 2017, 03:42:57 PM
I like that she comes with a normal head version. I like it a lot. Don't care a great deal about the demons, but slug lord man is a neat model.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on August 23, 2017, 11:29:59 PM
some insight info on free people in ghb2017

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/23/reeces-freeguildgw-homepage-post-3/
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on August 24, 2017, 12:53:15 AM
some insight info on free people in ghb2017

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/23/reeces-freeguildgw-homepage-post-3/

Holy crap!!! Freeguild here we come!
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on August 26, 2017, 04:32:31 PM
Downloaded the new GHB 2017. Went this route because I won't be able to afford the actual book for a bit. And if my approval means anything, I approve. Now there isn't a unit I can't use somehow someway if I like the models all wrapped up under one roof. Well done GW. What's good is if your into the game (a big if) everything I own is good to go.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on August 26, 2017, 06:00:30 PM
Also new Faq's and compendium rules going with GHB2017

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/25/new-and-updated-faqs-forge-world-warscrolls-and-compendium-pdfsgw-homepage-post-1/
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on August 31, 2017, 08:46:31 AM
Warhammer Underworlds: Shadespire looks set for October, and they've also revealed the Ironjawz warband.

And they've revealed Malign Portents.

"Dark powers stir in the Mortal Realms. Malign Portents is a major event for Warhammer Age of Sigmar players, and it’s on the way in 2018. There will be big things coming both for the narrative of the setting and for matched play gamers."

I guess it's a summer campaign, along with probably a Death faction release
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on August 31, 2017, 01:46:28 PM
Warhammer Underworlds: Shadespire looks set for October, and they've also revealed the Ironjawz warband.

And they've revealed Malign Portents.

"Dark powers stir in the Mortal Realms. Malign Portents is a major event for Warhammer Age of Sigmar players, and it’s on the way in 2018. There will be big things coming both for the narrative of the setting and for matched play gamers."

I guess it's a summer campaign, along with probably a Death faction release

Most likely as this is promoted:

(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Malign-Portents2-370x500.jpg)

full article:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/31/breaking-news-studio-preview-from-the-nova-open/
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on August 31, 2017, 01:52:10 PM
I did actually mean to post that picture as well.  Which is why I think the campaign is DEATH related. 

That, and Malign Portents is the name, and Malignants are a Death faction
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on September 22, 2017, 09:03:36 AM
News about the Firestorm campaign / armies

The announcement of the coming pre-order:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/09/17/firestorm-the-armies-of-the-great-cities-and-the-elite-of-the-death-guard/

Highlights about the themed box sets and the armies:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/09/18/the-armies-of-firestorm-hammerhal-sep18gw-homepage-post-4/
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/09/19/the-armies-of-firestorm-anvilgard-sep19gw-homepage-post-4/
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/09/20/the-armies-of-firestorm-tempests-eye-sep20gw-homepage-post-4/
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/09/21/the-armies-of-firestorm-the-wraith-fleet-sep21gw-homepage-post-4/

Still to come:
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Come back tomorrow, when we’ll be looking at Gulgaz’s Gustompas, an army of Destruction characterised by a novel, if unpredictable, approach to tactics.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on September 22, 2017, 09:05:49 AM
I'm getting the feeling of rules bloat forming now eventhough this all sounds cool.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on October 14, 2017, 06:41:03 PM
Just looking at the new shadespire. Is it just me or have the chaos models taken a huge leap forward. I like them so much, I might have  to get some or convert them to free peoples units somehow?

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-CA/Shadespire-Skirmish-Set-2017-ENG
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on October 14, 2017, 09:28:52 PM
It's quite a cool game too.  I had a demo game up my local GW shop today.

There must surely be quite a lot of chaos symbols and things on those guys.  And, I mean Free-people probably have a wide variety of looks and styles, though artwork I've seen of AoS people, still has them looking like the classic Empire style
















Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on October 15, 2017, 01:11:52 AM
It's quite a cool game too.  I had a demo game up my local GW shop today.

There must surely be quite a lot of chaos symbols and things on those guys.  And, I mean Free-people probably have a wide variety of looks and styles, though artwork I've seen of AoS people, still has them looking like the classic Empire style

Good point. It may be quite a bit of work. In the old world I always wanted a Viking/Norse type of unit but on the empire side of things. Never did get that far but the idea is still there for the new realms. Just like that theme but not chaos 😸
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on October 15, 2017, 02:26:26 AM
I converted a handful of chaos 'Danes" and had them as mercenaries in my Empire army. I think in some of the older books there was mentions of Norscan tribes that followed different gods, but I always like the idea of more pagan marauders.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on October 15, 2017, 12:36:52 PM
Which models did you use? That sounds great. I think Midaski has posted alternative Norse models. It might be a lot easier to use these with AoS flexibility. Maybe in Hammarhall blue and white might be nice with some duardin allies.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on October 15, 2017, 02:59:40 PM
I used the old Marauder kits mostly. They were the Danes. Then I used some chaos warriors, filed off the chaos bits, added some more Empirey stuff and called them Varangian Guard. My local club never had am issue with me using them as mercenaries.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: scrubber on October 15, 2017, 06:38:38 PM
Did anyone else notice in the plug I got from GW about figure's to buy to figure the battle's from Total War 2, how many of the pictures showed square bases.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on December 28, 2017, 01:08:23 PM
Even though I got the flu at the moment (yes.. timing) I think it's time to start with a new years resolution to spark this topic and overall AoS stuff. So expect a bit more and regular posts here. (As soon as GW provides us with some ofcourse)

So in the new year we can expect some new Nurgle of which the daemons will also feature in the new Codex: Chaos Daemons for 40k.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPmbsRqlyng

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Pkbh6pUGac

Some how I can't find the first posts on the warhammer community site any more..

But here is day 2 of the 7 days of nurgle
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/12/26/the-second-day-of-nurgle-great-unclean-onegw-homepage-post-3/
new GUO's
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/JanPreview-Dec19-Unclean4te-467x500.jpg)

Battletome preview:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/12/27/battletome-preview-maggotkin-nurgle/

Day 3 of 7
Heralds
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/12/27/the-third-day-of-nurgle-heraldsgw-homepage-post-3/
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/JanPreview-Dec19-Bilepiper6gwb-467x500.jpg)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on December 28, 2017, 01:09:41 PM
In other news the next hero has been unveiled for the coming Malign Portents
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/12/24/new-champion-revealed-fungoid-cave-shaman/

(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/AoSMalignPortDec24-Shaman1gwbs-484x500.jpg)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Xathrodox86 on December 28, 2017, 01:35:30 PM
Man, loving all those models, especially that gobbo! :ph34r:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on December 28, 2017, 02:17:14 PM
Wondering why there's a mushroom growing out of his head.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on December 28, 2017, 04:07:19 PM
Wondering why there's a mushroom growing out of his head.

The who’s who of the gobbo fashion world know what’s going on! Those mushroom hats are rad😸 I really like this guy
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on December 28, 2017, 10:45:19 PM
day 4 of the nurgle festivities!
a Lord of Blights giving putrid blightkings nearby a shooting attack
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/12/28/the-fourth-day-of-nurgle-the-lord-of-blightsgw-homepage-post-3/
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/JanPreview-Dec19-LordofBlights8rfa-467x500.jpg)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on December 29, 2017, 04:50:52 PM
day 5
Pusgoyle Blightlords
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/12/29/fifth-day-nurgle-pusgoyle-blightlordsgw-homepage-post-3/
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/JanPreview-Dec19-Puscoyle5gej.jpg.jpg)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: S.O.F on December 29, 2017, 10:11:05 PM
Pusgoyle Blightlords

Euh my eyes hurt so much from the rolling. I mean those are nice minis but Christ that name is painful.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on December 30, 2017, 03:43:21 PM
yes the naming of new stuff does take some weird turns here and there

Day 6 is an easier one: Beasts of Nurgle
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/12/30/the-sixth-day-of-nurgle-beasts-of-nurglegw-homepage-post-3/
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/JanPreview-Dec19-NurgelBeasts2wbs-467x500.jpg)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on December 30, 2017, 06:19:57 PM
Looks like a very large mutated plant to me. I'm okay with that actually, I can already see some interesting conversion ideas.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on December 30, 2017, 09:40:36 PM
Looks like a very large mutated plant to me. I'm okay with that actually, I can already see some interesting conversion ideas.

I think there are enough parts for 6 of them so lots of conversion possibilities there
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on December 31, 2017, 07:39:32 PM
and the last day of 7
Feculant Gnarlmaw (Scenery)
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/12/31/the-seventh-day-of-nurgle-the-feculent-gnarlmawgw-homepage-post-3/
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/JanPreview-Dec19-Gnarlmaw8lwq-467x500.jpg)

Pre-orders up next week for the two books (codex and battletome), the GUO, the heralds and the Gnarlmaw
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/12/31/pre-order-preview-new-year-nurgle-begins/
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on January 01, 2018, 01:52:15 PM
last hero for Malign Portents known for Order

Lord-Ordinator
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/01/01/malign-portents-orders-champion-revealed/
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Vorras.jpg)

these were the others:
Chaos:
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/AoSMalignPortDec24-WarQueen4gs-484x500.jpg)

Death:
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/AoSMalignPortDec24-Knight5al-484x500.jpg)

Destruction:
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/AoSMalignPortDec24-Shaman1gwbs-484x500.jpg)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Sharkbelly on January 01, 2018, 02:44:09 PM
Cool models. Full of character. Any idea on abilities yet?
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on January 01, 2018, 03:59:31 PM
All very cool. Chaos is pretty nice.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on January 01, 2018, 06:16:57 PM
Cool models. Full of character. Any idea on abilities yet?

only what has been given in those articles
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on January 06, 2018, 12:33:21 PM
New Battletome: Legions of Nagash coming
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/NYOpenDay-Jan6-NagashBook5ne-484x500.jpg)
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/01/06/new-year-new-armies-reveals-new-years-open-day/
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Xathrodox86 on January 12, 2018, 02:17:11 PM
Well, AoS looks better and better with each, new release. I'm impressed.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on January 21, 2018, 10:29:33 AM
Dammit! I wanna start Age of Sigmar! But no friend wants to play it. Not even as a sideshow. I still wanna do KoW but I so like the turn this is taking.

But my youngest son who is not coloured by the Old World, not even him. He is not much into swords when it comes to gaming. He loves tanks and big shootas.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: scrubber on January 23, 2018, 12:40:15 AM
Rumour has it that one of the Warhammer terrain building is making a come back in February. No nothing more.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on January 23, 2018, 11:35:39 AM
Rumour has it that one of the Warhammer terrain building is making a come back in February. No nothing more.

Yes, Skullvane Manse.  Or the Warscry Citadel as it will be called when it's re-released.  It's featured in photos, videos and stuff on the Malign Portents website.  It's as good as certain that it will be re-released.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Rowsdower on January 23, 2018, 01:03:22 PM
I really want that Mrs chaos warrior now
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on January 24, 2018, 10:34:23 AM
Looks like Morathi is making some of return leading the Daughters of Khaine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlQqri1FuRQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlQqri1FuRQ)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Rowsdower on January 24, 2018, 12:03:34 PM
Morathai is coming back?! Lets party like its 2001
Incidently, that nurgle tree looks like every 1950's B movie monster rolled into one. I might have to make a little Tom Servo and Crow to sit infront of it
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on January 26, 2018, 12:02:49 PM
News incoming:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/01/26/new-codexes-factions-our-heroes-and-more-breaking-news-from-the-las-vegas-opengw-homepage-post-1/

Battletome: Daughters of Khaine incoming
https://youtu.be/hIR2Y3zWnEA

Fyreslayer warband for shadespire
https://youtu.be/TblGPbauuKo

Malign Portents has more information, mostly on how the campaign "Dread Solstice" is given form: 6 weeks, 3 Chapters, 2 Battles, depending on points going to "something" multiple options for next battle, starting Feb 15th

and finally
FAQ and Errata schedule for AoS now official
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/LVO-presentation-29-500x375.jpg)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Warlord on January 27, 2018, 02:44:02 AM
I really like those daughters of khaine miniatures.
The medusa / naga types are cool, the harpy types are cool too. Very impressive. Prices probably too steep for me nowadays though :-(
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on January 28, 2018, 07:48:23 PM
yeah nice new models for daughters of Khaine!

more news about Malign Portents book and the death battletomb

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/01/28/next-weeks-pre-orders-death-coming-good-way/

(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Preview-Jan28-MalPortBook9wv-484x500.jpg)
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Preview-Jan28-NagashBattletome8ek-484x500.jpg)

and a welcome back to a piece of scenery
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Preview-Jan28-Warscryer5jv-484x500.jpg)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on January 29, 2018, 04:31:46 PM
The new FAQ/Errata model explained
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/01/29/warhammer-age-sigmar-faqs-new-model/
And new FAQ's for Order, Chaos, GHB2017 and the Rules:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/faqs/

Why your army should fight in Malign Portents
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/01/29/malign-portents-means-armygw-homepage-post-3/
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Sharkbelly on January 30, 2018, 01:29:29 AM
Very interesting. I like how Tzeentch and his forces have perhaps the greatest motivation to fight against the rise of Nagash.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on January 31, 2018, 07:05:33 AM
Wow! Death units will be very hard to shift when taken in large amounts with enough leaders on the table!

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/01/30/legions-nagash-grand-host-nagash-new-summoninggw-homepage-post-2/
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: scrubber on January 31, 2018, 10:57:31 PM
I was hoping that Deathknell Tower would also make a come-back. Still have Skullvane Manse assembled, but unpainted from the first month it came out. Yes another unfinished project.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on February 02, 2018, 08:21:50 AM
more Death news:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/01/31/legions-nagash-legion-sacrament/

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/02/01/legions-nagash-legion-blood-prince-vhordraigw-homepage-post-2/
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on February 03, 2018, 01:49:00 PM
Malign Portents (20,- Euro) and their Harbingers (25,- Euro a piece) and Legions of Nagash (32,50 Euro) up for pre-order
To really play with the Malign Portents book it is probaly needed or handy to also have the cards deck (12,-)

&view=all]https://www.games-workshop.com/en-NL/searchResults?N=595748386+3206404541&Nr=AND(product.locale%3Aen_NL_gw%2Csku.siteId%3ANL_gw)&Nrs=collection()%2Frecord[product.startDate+%3C%3D+1517664120000+and+product.endDate+%3E%3D+1517664120000]&view=all (https://www.games-workshop.com/en-NL/searchResults?N=595748386+3206404541&Nr=AND(product.locale%3Aen_NL_gw%2Csku.siteId%3ANL_gw)&Nrs=collection()%2Frecord[product.startDate+%3C%3D+1517664120000+and+product.endDate+%3E%3D+1517664120000)

Warscryer Citadel is back with this new name

Several bundles are up (at first glance doesn't seem any savings on them)

New build for the Blood Coven/Mortis Engine, named the Bloodseeker Palanquin

The Zombie Dragon with Vampire Lord build is now a special character: Prince Vhordrai

Repacks?? of the Morghasts
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Warlord on February 05, 2018, 02:28:51 PM
Interesting that they did that for the blood coven / bloodseeker palanquin. Clever idea really.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on February 05, 2018, 05:40:13 PM
I think they've done it before with a couple of kits, create a new unit out of an existing kit.   Crypt Flayers is a new 3rd build option for Vargheists and Crypt Horrors, and the Courtiers are a hero option built from a model from existing kits as well.

i can't think of any others off the top of my head
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Sharkbelly on February 05, 2018, 08:52:13 PM
Good point!
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Zak on February 06, 2018, 11:19:09 PM
one of my favorite kits I thought I lost out so this is good news
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Rowsdower on February 08, 2018, 01:59:04 PM
That guy with the dual hammers must be a member of a secret society. He's wearing a masonic icon on his belt
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Xathrodox86 on February 14, 2018, 12:45:56 PM
Gotrek is back! Yeah boi! :::cheers::: :mrgreen:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/1784967866
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on February 14, 2018, 09:45:36 PM
That's pretty awesome. Gotrex has always been one of my favorite characters and book series.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on February 14, 2018, 10:09:47 PM
Gotrek is back! Yeah boi! :::cheers::: :mrgreen:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/1784967866

official!
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/02/14/the-slayer-returns/
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on February 18, 2018, 07:15:09 PM
Daughters of Khaine coming!

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/02/18/shadow-queen-unveiled/

with Morathi as aelf and her true self!
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Preview-Feb18-Morathi1w-484x500.jpg)
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Preview-Feb18-MorathiSnake3rtv-500x445.jpg)

Battletome:
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Preview-Feb18-DaughtersofKhaine2cs-484x500.jpg)

and talk about more!

Quote
new units like the Melusai and the Khinerai
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on February 19, 2018, 12:22:25 AM
I like the aelf model more, but dragon version looks pretty rad as well.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Warlord on February 19, 2018, 01:53:14 PM
I really love a bunch of these models...
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Xathrodox86 on February 20, 2018, 02:53:56 PM
Oh man, this stuff is gorgeous... :blush: Like, holy hell, no joke - this are some grade A-level minis. :blush:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on February 20, 2018, 07:06:05 PM
more information going on:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/02/19/daughters-khaine-part-1-daughters-khainegw-homepage-post-3/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=7&v=RwzsAAdK10s

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/02/20/daughters-khaine-part-2-morathi-shadow-queen/
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Sharkbelly on February 20, 2018, 09:20:33 PM
And then there are rumors surrounding this pic:

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTI8mDUDluDQUw7JG0klwkoienKAHhQHOpkWOc7xk26bBtk5A2P)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on February 20, 2018, 10:39:35 PM
And then there are rumors surrounding this pic:

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTI8mDUDluDQUw7JG0klwkoienKAHhQHOpkWOc7xk26bBtk5A2P)

Ah yes true, but somehow in the jests about it I forgot it was AoS as we joked about it being a hidden announcement for T'au (fishpeople)

here is the post about it
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/02/16/glub-glubgw-homepage-post-3/
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: hamster on February 21, 2018, 01:37:11 AM
if they are releasing a boat than perhaps, the hargendorf garrison will get that town after all
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Xathrodox86 on February 21, 2018, 02:21:21 PM
Fishpeople confirmed? I'd love to see a race like that! :ph34r:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on February 21, 2018, 04:16:29 PM
blood sisters and blood stalkers explained

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/02/21/daughters-of-khaine-preview-part-3-the-melusaigw-homepage-post-3/
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on February 22, 2018, 08:59:43 PM
the kinerai

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/02/22/daughters-of-khaine-preview-part-4-the-khineraigw-homepage-post-3/

a bit like the Prosecutors of Stormcast but with nicer abilities
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on February 22, 2018, 09:04:45 PM
I was never taken with anything dark elvish but these sculpts are nice. Can’t wait for upgraded ‘high Elf’
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Warlord on February 24, 2018, 11:06:56 AM
I haven’t bought anything for a while, and I imagine the price is going to make me hate myself, but I want some.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on February 25, 2018, 10:58:25 AM
last update on the aelves:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/02/23/daughters-of-khaine-preview-part-4-magic-and-prayersgw-homepage-post-3/

But more interstingly..
there has been a sighting about the Allies of the Daughters of Khaine.

(https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/28468401_10215328464595084_6422264740550360505_n.jpg?oh=090d2b56e70bd3d8918c187e36a57faa&oe=5B131814)

(https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/28167981_10215328464315077_4860048901086204999_n.jpg?oh=3824f54b7cb3d5079fbb3bef56755074&oe=5B077C66)

So Idoneth Deepkin some kind of Aelves from the sea? But what about Kraith?
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on February 25, 2018, 07:51:56 PM
Oh, now that's very interesting. I'm up for some new sea based models.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on February 25, 2018, 09:36:28 PM
Some new scenery also coming:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/02/25/coming-next-week-shadow-ruins/

(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/MarchPrevie-Feb23-BlastedHallowheartBox6w.jpg-484x500.jpg)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on February 25, 2018, 11:51:05 PM
Very nice! 👆
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Sharkbelly on February 26, 2018, 07:18:34 AM
I like it. I have the Occulum and Archway, and I'm seriously tempted to pick up one of these and a pair of Realmgates.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on February 26, 2018, 04:31:54 PM
new uses for old models

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/02/26/daughters-of-khaine-preview-part-6-old-units-new-tricksgw-homepage-post-3/
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Sharkbelly on February 26, 2018, 09:40:47 PM
I'm half tempted to pick up the Blasted Hallowheart and use the boards for games of Warhammer Quest...
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Rowsdower on February 28, 2018, 02:43:57 PM
Teasing gamers with fish people....Its a trap [sorry, couldn't resist]
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on February 28, 2018, 05:53:56 PM
I would 100% convert up an admiral Akbar to lead my fishpeople.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Sharkbelly on February 28, 2018, 11:37:08 PM
Our cruisers can't repel awesomeness of that magnitude!
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Rowsdower on March 01, 2018, 01:27:05 AM
And it went wherever I did go [couldn't resist, sorry]
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Xathrodox86 on March 01, 2018, 10:27:45 AM
If they will release a new fish people race, I would be genuinely in awe. Imagine all those H.P. vibes... :blush:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on March 22, 2018, 10:39:51 AM
The Idoneth Deepkin have been revealed


(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/AdepticonPreview-Mar22-Deepkin1gfdwcs.jpg)
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/AdepticonPreview-Mar22-Deepkin2jvdc.jpg)
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/AdepticonPreview-Mar22-Deepkin3kvdkig.jpg)
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/AdepticonPreview-Mar22-Deepkin4kvcdjgs.jpg)

And the video

https://youtu.be/w7AcOAbaO4o
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on March 22, 2018, 03:27:15 PM
I'm not 100% sure how I feel about them actually. Models look great but they don't seem to catch me like I expected. I both like the flying turtle and don't think I'd ever use the flying turtle.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on March 22, 2018, 04:39:44 PM
I like the water cloak guy.  One of the new models is called an Avatar of Mathlann, and i'm guessing that's him
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: scrubber on March 22, 2018, 09:50:37 PM
Where does this race fight. On land or under the sea? So if on land how does the turtle fly. If under the sea, which race can fight them and breath underwater. Also hope that shipwreck model comes out. [2nd picture down.]
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on March 22, 2018, 10:02:48 PM
Everyone can fight underwater with magic! The same is probably what lets the turtle fly outside of water. That said I think that's part of my issue with the turtle.

I do like the cloak guys cloak. Plus the priest looking guy in the first picture. (Although he looks really similar to a genestealer magus.)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Sharkbelly on March 23, 2018, 05:08:38 AM
I think they turned out great, and will make an awesome compliment to all of my Pirates. This may be a very expensive summer...
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Rowsdower on March 23, 2018, 05:16:07 AM
No one else has said it yet. I'd better say it. Its Great A'tuin :eusa_clap:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on March 23, 2018, 10:13:50 AM
No one else has said it yet. I'd better say it. Its Great A'tuin :eusa_clap:

The Turtle Moves!
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Xathrodox86 on March 23, 2018, 02:40:29 PM
This is probably the best looking army of the last decade. No joke, this is awesome. :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on March 23, 2018, 06:19:59 PM
They do look great though I'm really interested in the back story and how they will fight "land based" armies..

Also another little hinter:

https://youtu.be/upNYiJks28I

A new or modified Death faction?

and Magic!

https://youtu.be/fMMMEWlQdF0

source: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/03/22/breaking-news-major-revealsgw-homepage-post-1/
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on March 23, 2018, 06:29:35 PM
Freeze framing the death video, it looks like that will probably be a new Black Coach

On the live stream they implied that the forthcoming magic supplement replaces the existing magic rules for AoS.    And that looks like a Purple Sun of Xereus to me
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on March 23, 2018, 09:55:11 PM
This is probably the craziest army I have seen, but that turtle model is working on me 😸
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: The Penguin on March 24, 2018, 07:08:00 AM
Interesting.

First Mantic games release their Trident realms http://www.manticgames.com/mantic-shop/kings-of-war/trident-realm-of-neritica.html (http://www.manticgames.com/mantic-shop/kings-of-war/trident-realm-of-neritica.html), now Warhammer goes for the same theme.

I however am more interested in the s.c. Warhammer legends:

(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/AdepticonPreview-Mar22-MTO11gcslg.jpg)

Perhaps it is the first step towards return of WHFB in some form? Wishful thinking, I know.....  :unsure:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: scrubber on March 24, 2018, 03:40:14 PM
I agree the Idoneth Deepkin are very nice models, but are they not just elves. Would have been nice to see scales or web hands and feet, gills even, then you could either round off the ear or remove it to make a different race. Also betting that turtle turns up in some 40k armies before long.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: The Penguin on March 24, 2018, 05:53:53 PM
After having a closer look at available pics, I can't help but have the same feeling I had when I first saw Kharadron Overlords. Yes, they are nice figures, innovative in many ways, but I just don't see a race, a nation behind them. What I mean is that I have always seen some well-defined civilization behind every WHFB army. It was clear what their goal was and why they fought. In AoS I just don't see that. The fluff is well written, but cloud pirate mercenaries and blind underwater elves? I don't know. That looks too specific for me.  :dry:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on March 24, 2018, 07:24:57 PM
Really? The sky dwarves absolutely remind me of the various merchant republics like Venice and Genoa but with a steam punk twist. Heavy mercantile base, constantly competing with each other for the best contracts and deposits, etc. Mix it with some real pirate or age of sail influence and I really like it,

I bet we'll see more stuff with the water elves. look at some of the monster hybrid stuff we just saw with the Khanite elves. I bet we'll see similar things for these guys.

I'm also pumped for the made to order stuff.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: scrubber on March 25, 2018, 12:41:55 AM
Where is this made to order stuff on the GW shop ?
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on March 25, 2018, 03:23:46 AM
It hasn't started yet. When it will be, it's usually under the pre order section. So far they've just announced it as a program their going to do.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Rowsdower on March 25, 2018, 05:17:55 AM
I wonder if they were inspired or based on the old sea elves? Either way; lots of great conversion material available with all the new stuff
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: The Penguin on March 25, 2018, 06:23:31 AM
Either way; lots of great conversion material available with all the new stuff

I agree. Some of the details and accessories are fantastic.Will work perfectly for every army starting from Dark elves, to High elves, to Chaos dwarfs.  :smile2:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on March 25, 2018, 08:20:52 PM
Where is this made to order stuff on the GW shop ?


It hasn't started yet. When it will be, it's usually under the pre order section. So far they've just announced it as a program their going to do.

It's an infrequent thing which is usually only announced the week before a set of minis will go on Made to Order, and you only have a week to order them, then it can take anywhere from a week to a month before they get sent out.  It depends on how many they end having to make.

I'm sure some of us who keep an eye on these things will put up a message on this forum to let people know when anything is happening
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Ursa Doom on April 06, 2018, 08:40:51 PM
Word on the street is that GW is gonna make a new starter box with Stormcast Wizards and Nighthaunt.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on April 07, 2018, 06:54:11 PM
So GW has been putting a bunch of short stories out as part of their Malign Portents event. I thought people might like these ones. Looks like the sea elves aren't staying under water:

https://malignportents.com/story/the-ghosts-of-ensignfort/
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on April 07, 2018, 07:33:42 PM
I agree the Idoneth Deepkin are very nice models, but are they not just elves. Would have been nice to see scales or web hands and feet, gills even, then you could either round off the ear or remove it to make a different race. Also betting that turtle turns up in some 40k armies before long.
They seem like dark elfs.  Maybe I'll call them deep elfs?  Yep, that sounds better than the GW name.  I like 'em! :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Ursa Doom on April 07, 2018, 08:03:46 PM
Teclis kinda screwed up creating the Deepkin because all of the elf souls that Slaanesh consumed bears some kind of taint. Like Morathi and her elves have the gorgon thing going. The Deepkins offsprings are born with souls that slowly eroded away, so they have to reinvigorate them with the souls of other people.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on April 07, 2018, 08:08:41 PM
Remarkably close to 40k Dark Eldar.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Ursa Doom on April 07, 2018, 08:19:47 PM
I did notice that. However, they seem to be find less joy in causing suffering and they don't appear to be nearly as decadent as the Dark Eldar.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on April 07, 2018, 08:25:27 PM
That’s exactly why I hate the DE both in fantasy and 40k. The fact there is so much suffering already to be found and they live off of that controlled debauchery makes me feel good to destroy as many of them as I can 😺
They are great enemies to despise.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Ursa Doom on April 07, 2018, 08:49:47 PM
In WHFB the DE was a pastiche of Michael Moorcock's fictional race the Melbonéans, which did indeed grow so wicked and decadent that all the other nearby people of the world ganged up on them and laid waste to their civilization. GW took a great deal of inspiration from Moorcock for their settings, so the DE has always been a rather appropriate inclusion.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on April 08, 2018, 01:21:00 PM
I like DE, and recall something like them in D&D ... drow!
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on April 08, 2018, 01:28:53 PM
Excellent to learn the source of fluff and it’s inspiration. I guess the Protestant puratism impact I grew up in left it’s mark 😸
Slaanesh is more evil that the 3 chaos gods combined and I just don’t feel gork and mork are truly evil lol.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Ursa Doom on April 08, 2018, 02:19:16 PM
Quite. GW "borrowed" so much stuff from Moorcock that they also straight up used the same 8 pointed star that Moorcock originally envisioned as a symbol Chaos. In his version of the Chaos star the 8 arrows sprouting in different directions suggests that there are no wrong options and all paths in life is just as valid. Meanwhile he envisioned the symbol of Law to be a single arrow pointing upwards in one direction, suggesting that the truth path in life is staying true to structure and order.

Moorcock would have the gods of Chaos and Law being at constant conflict with eachother. Should one side ever gain supremacy over the other the cosmic order would be out of balance and mortals would suffer under extreme forces. Law might not seem as bad as Chaos, but too much Law will ultimately lead to a sterility where nothing flourishes.

Games Workshop decided to tone down the gods of Law, but with Age of Sigmar they seem to be making a sort of return as dominant forces at conflict with Chaos.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Xathrodox86 on April 11, 2018, 11:45:12 AM
Remarkably close to 40k Dark Eldar.

My thoughts exactly.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on May 15, 2018, 01:00:04 PM
New Night Haunt Battletome incoming here is a preview

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/05/14/14th-may-faction-focus-nighthauntgw-homepage-post-3/

(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/AoSNighthauntFF-May14-Chainrasps6rt.jpg)

(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/AoSNighthauntFF-May14-Stalker7rv.jpg)

(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/AoSNighthauntFF-May14-Reapers8vg.jpg)

(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/AoSNighthauntFF-May14-Executioner11dx.jpg)

(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/AoSNighthauntFF-May14-Guardian12gw.jpg)

(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/AoSNighthauntFF-May14-Knight13kn-890x1024.jpg)

(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/AoSNighthauntFF-May14-SpiritTormentWarscroll16rvds.jpg)

https://youtu.be/bWljwmoaVAU

From this you can also see a new Black Coach will be on the way and possibly new cavalry
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on May 15, 2018, 01:05:08 PM
I am really loving these models. 👆
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Zak on May 15, 2018, 03:24:53 PM
those are nice models
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on May 16, 2018, 06:41:41 AM
Faction Focus of the Stormcast Eternals with a preview of the new Sacrosanct Chamber (the magic and artillery department)

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/05/15/15th-may-faction-focus-stormcast-eternalsgw-homepage-post-3/

This is the Chamber where the Lord-Ordinator (Released for Malign Portents) also belongs too.

New line infantry with a little magic twist: Sequitors
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/AoSStormcastFF-May15-Sequitors5wxs.jpg)

Evocators
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/AoSStormcastFF-May15-Evocator3jvfd.jpg)

Castigators
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/AoSStormcastFF-May15-Castigators4wf.jpg)

The Celestar Ballista
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/AoSStormcastFF-May15-Ballista2wv.jpg)

The Lord-Arcanum
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/AoSStormcastFF-May15-LordArcanum1rc.jpg)

Knight-Incantor warscroll
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/AoSStormcastFF-May15-warscroll6ecd.jpg)

and a preview vid with more to find out
https://youtu.be/Q9daI6m4KsM

Atleast one more mystical creature carring a Stormcast to follow

Some of this was already released with the Live blog about the Warhammer Fest
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on May 16, 2018, 10:31:35 AM
The mount for the new cavalry is a Dracolion.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Sharkbelly on May 17, 2018, 01:25:55 AM
Faeit is reporting that those models pictured above will be the contents of the new starter box. If that is the case, I'd have a hard time turning it down.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on May 17, 2018, 01:35:55 AM
That's what I figured, for all the same reasons.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on May 17, 2018, 01:37:27 AM
Loving gheee new stormcast. The names and units. I was almost decided on the vanguard but now I have to rethink.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on May 17, 2018, 09:14:16 AM
Loving gheee new stormcast. The names and units. I was almost decided on the vanguard but now I have to rethink.

Sure?

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/05/16/16th-may-faction-focus-everchosen-and-slaves-to-darknessgw-homepage-post-3/
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on May 17, 2018, 09:43:48 AM
I think he meant Stormcast Vanguard Chamber, rather than Everchosen Varanguard.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on May 17, 2018, 09:58:19 AM
I think he meant Stormcast Vanguard Chamber, rather than Everchosen Varanguard.

Ah yes...

Well maybe he has another option now to rethink about? :)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on May 17, 2018, 10:03:58 AM
Ha!  Chaos? Never! Absolutely love the models but chaos belongs underfoot 😸
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on May 17, 2018, 01:23:09 PM
Ironjawz then?

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/05/17/17th-may-faction-focus-ironjawzgw-homepage-post-3/
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on May 20, 2018, 06:38:10 PM
We all know that the proper number of armies to have is however many you already have +1.

The new stormcast look pretty good. I saw a picture of them converted with normal looking human heads that looked pretty good. Like paladins or something.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Xathrodox86 on May 25, 2018, 12:58:33 PM
I love the new spell models. Purple Sun is lit! ::heretic::
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on June 01, 2018, 11:23:57 PM
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/UKExpo-June1-Nighthaunt9wc.jpg)

Quote
Kurdoss Valentian, the Craven King, is one of the named champions who leads Nagash’s Nighthaunt legions. Serving at the side of his master, the Mortarch of Grief, this arch-plotter and schemer is an incredibly astute – if embittered and cruel – commander. He’s also not afraid to smash some Stormcast skulls with that mace…

More Nighthaunt stuff on it's way, alongside a pretty big 40k update for stuff.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Warlord on June 04, 2018, 04:20:40 AM
Nice model. I like. Now for the question of price... I know what I value that model at, but what does GW value it at?
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on June 04, 2018, 08:02:26 AM
my guess would be at 25-30 Euro
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Zak on June 04, 2018, 08:16:02 PM
I'm not a fan but its an incredible sculp
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on June 04, 2018, 08:23:30 PM
I myself really like the character himself, but I'd likely trim the two attendant wraiths and put them on separate bases.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on June 04, 2018, 09:55:26 PM
Nice model. I like. Now for the question of price... I know what I value that model at, but what does GW value it at?

At GW Australian prices, I don't think you'll be liking the price.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Ursa Doom on June 05, 2018, 11:54:49 AM
New edition starter box and supplements announced. It seems to be pretty much what I expected and wanted.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/06/05/soul-wars-announced/

(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/AoSSoulWarsLaunch-StormcastArmy4ed.jpg)

(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/AoSSoulWarsLaunch-NighthauntArmy20rv.jpg)

The Malign magic box is almost tempting, but I will wait and see what people have to say about it.

(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/AoSSoulWarsLaunch-MalSorSpells21gu.jpg)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on June 05, 2018, 12:17:47 PM
Agreed!👆 I don’t think I can pass on this one. I have no death army models or a huge incentive ( not that I don’t love the models as well as chaos). I might just put them aside for someone who wants to collect. The stormcast, rules etc is what I’m thinking of.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Ursa Doom on June 05, 2018, 01:55:51 PM
Maybe you can find someone to trade your Nighthaunt for Stormcast?
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on June 05, 2018, 02:05:38 PM
Maybe you can find someone to trade your Nighthaunt for Stormcast?
Excellent plan!
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on June 05, 2018, 02:47:44 PM
Sign. One more thing to add to the ever expanding want list. I'm still trying to save up for Forgebane and Silver Tower without totally killing my budget.

It's a good looking kit. That said, I think I like some of the other sets a bit more. If I can find someone to split it around here I might go in for the stormcast as well. The Nighthaunt look good, but it's not really an army I play. I might try and pick up some of the Nighthaunt heroes to paint up and collect, but the various troops don't super amaze me.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on June 05, 2018, 10:01:16 PM
well in my community everybody wants the Nighthaunt trying to get rid of the Stormcast  :happy:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: S.O.F on June 06, 2018, 12:30:53 AM
The wraith things look almost spot on to Witcher 3 wraiths, especially with the color choices.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Xathrodox86 on June 06, 2018, 11:48:17 AM
I like these starter sets A LOT. AoS is really going places. I think I'll start a Seraphon army soon. :blush:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Victor on June 06, 2018, 02:39:51 PM
Oh look! New Sigmarines yet again! Variant #26 -This time with a bit of added cloth and slightly different weapons! Amazing! (Sarcasm)


I like the Ghosts. They have a classic-fantasy feel to them. I might have to get them at some point via ebay.

Also these miniatures are for sale seperately now:
(and considering it's GW, the price is actually reasonable)

(https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/920x950/60120707001_SepulchralGuardENG02.jpg)


These undead models are in my opinion thus far the only really good looking AoS miniatures.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Sharkbelly on June 13, 2018, 09:45:15 AM
Most of the Warhammer Quest models are really cool.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Warlord on June 13, 2018, 12:48:00 PM
That is true. Its so expensive in Aus though :-(
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on June 13, 2018, 08:13:30 PM
The new Mortarch of Grief, and leader of the new Nighthaunt faction. Lady Olynder.

(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/AoSMortrach-June13-LadyOlynder1eh.jpg)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: S.O.F on June 14, 2018, 01:52:05 AM
The new Mortarch of Grief, and leader of the new Nighthaunt faction. Lady Olynder.

Ah now we add a Noon Wraith eh. Feels more and more like the art design for the Nighthaunt stuff came after the design folks were playing plenty of Witcher 3.

I;m not saying they are bad, I quite like them. But the resemblance seems so spot on.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on June 14, 2018, 11:31:47 AM
I don't know much Witcher myself, haven't played more then a few minutes, but your not the first person to say that. Normally I'd argue that a ghostie is a ghostie regardless of influence, except for the fact these generally do look pretty different from past GW ghosts. Not super different, but still not the same style.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: S.O.F on June 14, 2018, 12:49:27 PM
I don't know much Witcher myself, haven't played more then a few minutes, but your not the first person to say that. Normally I'd argue that a ghostie is a ghostie regardless of influence, except for the fact these generally do look pretty different from past GW ghosts. Not super different, but still not the same style.

The core wraiths just have a few elements in their design that look like Witcher game ones and it is those and the paint scheme that really make it. This Mortarch of Grief though is quite clearly a Noonwraith, which though is a thing in eastern European folklore, I've not seen anywhere outside the Witcher setting. Where the folkloric one has varied tales about it the Witcher setting ones are the spirits of young women that are tragically killed or commit suicide over some loss. Also much is attached to these events involving a bride to be so they often appear to wear bridal regalia:veils, flowers, white gowns, and so forth.

GW has always been big on the homage game, though sometimes poorly where it bleeds into more the ripped off end. The line between these is basically dependent on the viewer of course. Fluff wise I'll probably dislike whatever GW dreams up for these Nighthaunt types, probably more to the setting and painful AoS naming conventions, but I really like the minis which I think it hard not to say there has to be a bit of a Witcher connection here.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Xathrodox86 on June 14, 2018, 01:02:23 PM
I'm getting some really strong Dark Souls vibes from this model. It's always a good thing and this is a beautiful sculpt. :blush:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Zak on June 18, 2018, 07:25:59 PM
I wont even consider AoS until they bring me basic humans  :dry:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Xathrodox86 on June 20, 2018, 08:12:52 AM
I wont even consider AoS until they bring me basic humans  :dry:

Freeguild People are Your friends. ;)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on June 20, 2018, 08:52:36 AM
I think Zak means when Free Peoples get model releases, and a proper battletome.  When humanity is brought into AoS properly
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Ursa Doom on June 21, 2018, 12:18:47 PM
I'm perfectly fine with using historical minis for my Free Guild.

As for the Nighthaunt, I like that they got the whole ironic punishment I'm the afterlife theme.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on June 24, 2018, 06:19:53 PM
As expected the announcement of the new Battletoms Nighthaunt and Stormcast (with limited edition options)

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/06/24/next-week-storms-and-spectres/

(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/GWPreview-June24-Battletomes1ef.jpg)

Also army specific endless spells!
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/GWPreview-June24-SpellsBoxes10tz.jpg)

Lady Olander:
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/AoSMortrach-June13-LadyOlynder1eh.jpg)

Crawlocke the Jailor and his Chainghasts
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/GWPreview-June24-Crawlocke5q.jpg)

Multipart kit for the Grimghast Reapers
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/GWPreview-June24-Reapers6c.jpg)

New Lord for the Stormcast: Lord-Exorcist
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/GWPreview-June24-Exorcist7f.jpg)

and more dice, the Nighthaunt ones are even glow in the dark
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/GWPreview-June24-Dice16g.jpg)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on June 26, 2018, 07:24:33 AM
So the new Hero's from the Nighthaunt are beasts! (not literally)

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/06/25/25th-june-heroes-of-the-nighthauntgw-homepage-post-4/

Lady Olynder is someone you don't want close to you with all that close by Mortal wound damage.. shoot it to death!
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/NighthauntHeroes-June25-LadyOlynderWarscrollCard-6gh.jpg)

Kurdoss Valentian a combat beast but now with actual hitting power instead of Mortal wound output
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/NighthauntHeroes-June25-KurdossMinituare-8pq.jpg)
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/NighthauntHeroes-June25-KurdossWarscrollCard-11hn.jpg)

Reikenor a wizard with some anti troops attacks
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/NighthauntHeroes-June25-GrimhailerMinituare-10vx.jpg)
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/NighthauntHeroes-June25-GrimhailerWarscrollCard-12wa.jpg)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on June 26, 2018, 02:57:36 PM
2 new named heroes for Stormcast:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/06/26/26th-june-preview-new-heroes-of-the-stormcast-eternalsgw-homepage-post-2/

Astreia Solbright
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/StormcastHeroes-June26-Asteria21b.jpg)
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/StormcastHeroes-June26-AstreiaWarscroll2vs.jpg)

Aventis Firestrike
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/StormcastHeroes-June26-Aventis20r.jpg)
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/StormcastHeroes-June26-AventisWarscroll4ub.jpg)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on June 26, 2018, 03:23:12 PM
I really like the lizard monster mount, less interested in the weird Pegasus hybrid.

When the new starter set was announced I started out thinking I'd split the set with a buddy and get the stormcast, but I'm actually really getting into the Nighthaunt instead. I've always had a decent vampire counts army but never really got into them. I had them as an interesting bad guy and tended to use it as a loaner army. With the ghosties though I'm actually finding myself planning paint schemes, preemptivly writing fluff and naming characters, and imagining battles. I havnt done that for a starter set in awhile!

Looks like it might be next months big purchase instead of Forgebane.

Totally separate but I enjoyed this:

(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/21-06-Bulletin.jpg)

They've started something called The Hammerhal Herald which is suppose to be an In Universe newspaper. It very clearly Regimental Standard inspired, and while some of the jokes are a bit corny others are pretty good.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Zak on June 26, 2018, 11:48:29 PM
I think Zak means when Free Peoples get model releases, and a proper battletome.  When humanity is brought into AoS properly

yes this  :smile2:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on July 01, 2018, 12:10:43 PM
more news:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/06/30/30th-june-the-warhammer-age-of-sigmar-open-day-live-bloggw-homepage-post-1/

new Black Coach
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/AoSOpenDay-June30-BlackCoach1fr.jpg)

Some multipart kits for already released models

and some new Dreadblad Harrows
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/AoSOpenDay-June30-Harrows5zd.jpg)

Lord-Arcanum on Tauralon
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/AoSOpenDay-June30-Tauralon7qb.jpg)

Evocators on Celestial Dracolines
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/AoSOpenDay-June30-Dracolines6yf.jpg)

And also some multipart kits also for the ballista
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/AoSOpenDay-June30-Ballista10il.jpg)

And a new variant on the Lord-Ordinator
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/AoSOpenDay-June30-LordOrdinator11wg.jpg)

And a new novel in the same sphere of City of Secrets
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/BLJulyPreview-Apr11-SilverShard3k.jpg)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on July 02, 2018, 12:05:36 AM
Just updated to the new Azyr. Like the new set up. No scroll for the high warden on a gryphon anymore and the open play lists restrict the units you can attach and amount of leaders are at 4. Not sure why this is as it’s supposed to be open and include everything. Also restricts allegiance and allies.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Warlord on July 02, 2018, 05:24:39 AM
About time for a new black coach. Need to see some more angles but I think I like!
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on July 02, 2018, 09:04:28 AM
New ways to start (as we had before several sized startup sets coming)

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/07/01/coming-soon-great-new-ways-to-get-started/

Also with a small magazine on how to start with a unique model.. so yeah gonna get this one even though I don't really care for the magazine it self
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/AoSGettingStartedMagWithMini-Jul1-Content1yj.jpg)

The smallest sized set Storm Strike:
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/AoSStormStrikeContents-Jul1-Content7us.jpg)

The medium sized set in 2 variants (without and with some paints and tools) Tempest of Souls:
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/AoSTempestOfSoulsContents-Jul1-Content13tl.jpg)
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/AoSTempestOfSoulsAndPaintsContents-Jul1-Content14ld.jpg)

Also the model content from the first starter set will be reboxed into seperate boxes so the models unique in them will be available. (Lord-Relictor, Bloodstoker and Korgorath)
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/AoSStartCollectingGorebladeWarband-Jul1-Content16lg.jpg)
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/AoSStartCollectingThunderstrikeBrotherhood-Jul1-Content15gv.jpg)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Zak on July 02, 2018, 02:15:40 PM
OK those undead models are AWESOME !!!!  but I still hate this game lol
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on July 02, 2018, 03:35:31 PM
I really like the trend of different sized starter sets.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Warlord on July 05, 2018, 12:03:06 AM
Different sized starter sets is a great idea.
If I was still buying, I would buy the smallest.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on July 09, 2018, 07:33:48 AM
Coming next week:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/07/08/coming-next-week-heroes-old-and-new/

Dreadblade Harrows
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/NighthauntDreadbladeHarrows-Jul8-Content5ft.jpg)

Reikenor the Grimhailer
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/NighthauntReikenorTheGrimhailer-Jul8-Content4om.jpg)

Astreia Solbright – a Dracoline-riding Lord-Arcanum
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/SCEAstreiaSolbright-Jul8-Content3ba.jpg)

Multipart? Celestar Balista (crew is diffferent from the soulwars boxset)
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/SCECelestarBallista-Jul8-Content6pn.jpg)

Kurdoss Valentian – the Craven King
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/NighthauntKurdossValentian-Jul8-Content7ta.jpg)

Multipart Evocators
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/SCEEvocators-Jul8-Content8hn.jpg)

Some start here paint sets
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/AoSNighthuauntPaintSet-Jul8-Content19wh.jpg)
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/AoSPaintToolSet-Jul8-Content21dc.jpg)
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/AoSSCEPaintSet-Jul8-Content20db.jpg)

How to magazine with unique Stormcast model
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/GettingStartedWithAoSMag-Jul8-Content15dn.jpg)

The old startset models per faction:
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/SCKBBGorebladeWarband-Jul8-Content1le.jpg)
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/SCSCEThunderstrikeBrotherhood-Jul8-Content2lt.jpg)

and some old models for Made to Order:
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/MTOSettraTheImperishable-Jul8-Content12di.jpg)
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/MTOQueenKhalida-Jul8-Content13mw.jpg)
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/MTOZachariusTheEverliving-Jul8-Content14co.jpg)
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/MTOGromThePaunch-Jul8-Content10ta.jpg)
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/MTOGreasusGoldtooth-Jul8-Content9hy.jpg)
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/MTOGorbadIronclaw-Jul8-Content11mb.jpg)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on July 09, 2018, 01:36:19 PM
An interesting mix in the made to order. Seeing the Tomb Kings gave me some happy feelings inside.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Sharkbelly on July 09, 2018, 01:59:48 PM
Very nice. Queen Khalida is one of my all-time favorites.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Zak on July 09, 2018, 06:36:04 PM
Ive never seen that belt holding the zombie dragons guts in before  :eusa_clap: :eusa_clap: :eusa_clap: lol
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Warlord on July 09, 2018, 10:26:35 PM
Ive never seen that belt holding the zombie dragons guts in before  :eusa_clap: :eusa_clap: :eusa_clap: lol

Me neither!
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Xathrodox86 on July 10, 2018, 12:17:19 PM
I love the style and grim feel of these new AoS releases. This game seems to become much more mature and dark. The new minis are great, especially the undead. Very, very nice job on GW's part.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on July 13, 2018, 09:07:18 PM
Just asking again about the open play feature of Azyr. There are limitations to the number of leaders etc and alliance/ allies in full force. Thought the idea for open play was anything goes. I sent an email to gwapps so I’m sure I will find out what I’m doing wrong 😸
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on July 14, 2018, 09:41:56 AM
Just asking again about the open play feature of Azyr. There are limitations to the number of leaders etc and alliance/ allies in full force. Thought the idea for open play was anything goes. I sent an email to gwapps so I’m sure I will find out what I’m doing wrong 😸

Well I'm curious on what answer you get, is it even with the latest update? Yesterday I believe I had an app update for it
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on July 14, 2018, 10:41:20 AM
It did have an update but did not correct. I stopped by the local GW store yesterday and mentioned it as well. I’ll let you know what I get as a reply. 👆
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on July 19, 2018, 05:09:01 PM
Azyr open play is working now. Just updated. Got an email thanking me for my I enquiry and that they would get back to me. No need now. All is good
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on July 19, 2018, 05:47:11 PM
Nice!
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on July 29, 2018, 07:49:49 AM
On Pre-order now:

Chainrasp horde
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/PreOrder-Jul22-Chainrasps-7jy.jpg)

Black coach
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/AoSOpenDay-June30-BlackCoach1fr.jpg)

Sequitors
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/PreOrder-Jul22-Sequitors-6hf.jpg)

Aventis Firstrike (or generic Lord-Arcanum on Tauralon, 2nd picture)
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/GWReleases-July28-Firestrike2ct.jpg)
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/GWReleases-July28-LordArcTauralon1e.jpg)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on July 29, 2018, 07:41:39 PM
Next weeks pre-orders:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/07/29/gangs-ghosts-and-grandhammers-next-weeks-pre-orders/

Evocators on Dracolines
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Preview-July29-Dracolines7g.jpg)
which makes also the Lord-Arcanum on Dracoline
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Preview-July29-LordArcDracoline8t.jpg)

Lord-Ordinator with Astral-Grandhammer
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Preview-July29-LordOrdinator6q.jpg)

Lord Executioner
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Preview-July29-Executioner9x.jpg)

Bladegheist Revenants
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Preview-July29-Revenants10d.jpg)

Dreadscythe Harridans
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Preview-July29-Harridans11l.jpg)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on July 29, 2018, 11:21:39 PM
I continue to like almost all the Nighthaunt stuff. The new Lord Ordinator looks pretty shiny as well. Might pick him up to run my Order siege train.

I actually just got home from the GW store with a Stormstrike box. Looking forward to making some banshees and castigators.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Zak on August 01, 2018, 01:17:30 AM
WHY WONT THEY revamp humans !!!!! %$#@
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Sharkbelly on August 01, 2018, 06:38:22 AM
Because all the humans are dead! Or undead!

Bwahahahahahahahahah!


Seriously, though, they would probably look really cool.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on August 01, 2018, 07:17:42 AM
WHY WONT THEY revamp humans !!!!! %$#@

Yep, still waiting on this one myself also..

And with the Stormcast I'm torn...
On one side I like the new models and I want them to strengthen my force.
On the other side I find that Stormcast get to much releases. I can't keep up and it bites because some other factions aren't getting the attention they need.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on August 01, 2018, 10:58:50 AM
Agree that Stormcast get too much attention, and you can tell from the comments on the rumour engine posts on the GW facebook pages that there is a lot of sarcastic comments, and when they had votes on which battletome or army would you be using from Soulwars, Nighthaunts won by a mile.  I'm a fan of Stormcast, and yeah, it's too much too keep up with, and any attention spent on Stormcast isn't being spent on other factions.

I'm most looking forward to, and at the same time a little dreading what they might do with human factions.  I hope they keep the spirit of the old Empire in the Freeguild stuff.    Of the 4 "Empire" factions, Free Peoples, Collegiate Arcane, Devoted of Sigmar and Ironweld Arsenal, i'd say the Collegiate and Devoted have the most room for a range expansion, but I've seen more stuff mentioned about the Ironweld - right up to Cogforts, which would be cool to see, but we would see a plastic Thunderhawk before we saw a plastic Cogfort.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Victor on August 01, 2018, 12:37:35 PM
Some of these ghosts look (very) good again. The prices however are a different story. The Black Coach costs 90€ - I didn't plan on buying it, but at that price I would not anyway.

And yet more variations of Stormcast. This reminds me of the Simpsons episode with Malibu Stacy. https://youtu.be/6OCB-D34AZ8?t=71

New Stormcasts with a new weapon!
New Stormcasts with a piece of added cloth!
New Stormcasts with the helmet off!
New Stormcasts on mount variant x!
New Stormcasts with a combination of the above!
... and then the cycle starts again ...

They couldn't make a new and decent Empire Knightly Order plastic box for 15 years and wondered why it didn't really sell after the first couple of years, but now they churn out one lame Stormcast kit after another on a bimonthly basis or something.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Xathrodox86 on August 03, 2018, 01:38:20 PM
WHY WONT THEY revamp humans !!!!! %$#@

All in good time. I'm sure they will.

As for these models - they're fan-fucking-tastic! :blush: :blush: :blush:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on August 26, 2018, 07:27:19 PM
It's been a while since some bigger news for AoS, but here it is: Beasts of Chaos

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/08/26/from-the-wild-places/
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/BoCBT-skdjf.jpg)

A herdstone model
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Herdstone-dfbs.jpg)

endless spells:
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/EndlessSpell1-kjha-320x320.jpg)
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/EndlessSpell2-sfds-320x320.jpg)
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/EndlessSpell3-sfdo-320x320.jpg)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Warlord on August 27, 2018, 12:24:03 AM
I like the flaming bull... (Chaos Dwarf player inside me says)

I like the herdstone, but its scenery, not a hnit which is a bit disappointing.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on August 27, 2018, 02:33:27 AM
I like the look of the new troll guy.

(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/CitadelSeminar-Aug25-Troggoth-3lq.jpg)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on August 27, 2018, 03:03:05 AM
He is a must have!
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Sharkbelly on August 27, 2018, 07:25:19 AM
So the rumored new Warhammer Underworlds game is called Nightvault. That makes me think it will be set in a great underground city. This new troll is supposed to be part of that. So night goblins and others?
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Zak on August 28, 2018, 08:49:43 PM
that's troll is amazing
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Zak on August 28, 2018, 08:54:27 PM
Do you think we will ever see basic human armies again? Or am I stuck with the crap about freeguilds and these abominations
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on August 28, 2018, 09:23:56 PM
I would love to see a new generation of NG and trolls.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Sharkbelly on August 28, 2018, 10:16:29 PM
I think we will see night goblins and trolls soon. As for regular humans... it may be a while. However I think we eventually will.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on August 28, 2018, 10:46:02 PM
I'm 100% convinced we'll see basic humans again. To much of the fluff talks about the freeguild and basic humans. I honestly don't know why they haven't already done it, but I suspect they are doing it the way they are to try and get the 'weirder' and more unique armies that. They can use those to set the tone and the image of the setting, then they can put more generic humans out.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Zak on August 29, 2018, 08:17:35 PM
I'm 100% convinced we'll see basic humans again. To much of the fluff talks about the freeguild and basic humans. I honestly don't know why they haven't already done it, but I suspect they are doing it the way they are to try and get the 'weirder' and more unique armies that. They can use those to set the tone and the image of the setting, then they can put more generic humans out.



that makes sense 
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on August 29, 2018, 08:47:50 PM
I'm 100% convinced we'll see basic humans again. To much of the fluff talks about the freeguild and basic humans. I honestly don't know why they haven't already done it, but I suspect they are doing it the way they are to try and get the 'weirder' and more unique armies that. They can use those to set the tone and the image of the setting, then they can put more generic humans out.



that makes sense

Gods I hope so. I just pulled it out of my behind when I was trying to come up with some kind of legitimate reason. I can see them doing that, but on the other hand... I REALLY WANT MY HUMANS DAMMIT!
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Zak on August 31, 2018, 06:38:42 PM
I'm 100% convinced we'll see basic humans again. To much of the fluff talks about the freeguild and basic humans. I honestly don't know why they haven't already done it, but I suspect they are doing it the way they are to try and get the 'weirder' and more unique armies that. They can use those to set the tone and the image of the setting, then they can put more generic humans out.



that makes sense

Gods I hope so. I just pulled it out of my behind when I was trying to come up with some kind of legitimate reason. I can see them doing that, but on the other hand... I REALLY WANT MY HUMANS DAMMIT!




YES!!!! https://youtu.be/RAhbH19TvPc 
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Victor on August 31, 2018, 07:51:21 PM
A new warband (?) for Warhammer Underworlds (a boardgame?).

(http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Games-Workshop_NOVA-Open-2018-Reveals-18.jpg)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Zak on August 31, 2018, 09:49:40 PM
nice  :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on August 31, 2018, 09:53:42 PM
I like banshee rose lady and the hanged man myself.

Also @zak, glorious scene.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Xathrodox86 on September 19, 2018, 10:52:01 AM
With every, new release, AoS is getting cooler and cooler... :blush:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on October 01, 2018, 12:40:27 AM
Somehow I missed this entire release. Just started reading up on it. Very cool. I think I need to pick up firestorm. I’ll just link the thread. It should appeal to free peoples fans.

https://www.tga.community/forums/topic/18367-aos-2-free-cities-firestorm-discussion/
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on October 01, 2018, 01:51:47 AM
Huh that looks interesting. I remember seeing the campaign map thing when Firestorm first came out. I still want to try and find a set of that Mighty Empires map tiles thing they put out years ago. The little tiles that build a map you can play Border Prince or something on.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on October 01, 2018, 01:55:17 AM
A missed oprtunity that mighty empire thing. I really wish I had bought that when it came out. 👆
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on October 01, 2018, 07:30:11 AM
I did pick up Firestorm, and while ok, I do wish they had included the plastic Mighty Empires hex tiles

Firestorm is still available

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Season-Of-War-Firestorm-2017-eng

The map is re-usable to some extent, as the "stickers" are held on via static rather than glue, but it's a fixed picture of an area on a board, rather than something that could be generated randomly
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on October 01, 2018, 07:32:34 AM
And while we're at it for AoS previews, already the next two warbands for Warhammer Underworlds: Nightvault are on pre-order next week

(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/PreOrderPreviewWHNV-Sep30-EyesOfNineMinis.jpg)

(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/PreOrderPreviewWHNV-Sep30-ZarbagsGitzMinis.jpg)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on October 01, 2018, 10:26:33 AM
Those night goblins are a must!
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on October 02, 2018, 06:58:32 AM
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/10/01/the-sprue-and-you/

NEW Slaanesh inbound!

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSNlKDs7_i53MvYIXdCKuWEEmo2SYXu0znffijzdWgcwLUUwVroHA)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on October 02, 2018, 03:50:28 PM
And to think just this weekend there were still be at my club arguing that they were going to squat Slaanesh. I look forward to seeing what happens with the dark gods return.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on October 03, 2018, 06:43:20 AM
And to think just this weekend there were still be at my club arguing that they were going to squat Slaanesh. I look forward to seeing what happens with the dark gods return.

And this will still give hope for Free People as Slaanesh it's talk was way worse on them getting the boot
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Xathrodox86 on October 17, 2018, 01:23:39 PM
I'm really digging these new warbands, especially the Tzeentchian one. :blush:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Warlord on October 19, 2018, 11:31:50 AM
Bought a box of Melusai.

First purchase in years.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on October 19, 2018, 12:16:24 PM
Bought a box of Melusai.

First purchase in years.

Nice models!

Talking about models.. Forge World giving a new little Khorne hero with a pet

(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/FWNewRelease-Oct19-Vorgaroth-2kv.jpg)

found here: https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Vorgaroth-the-Scarred-and-Skalok-the-Skull-Host-of-Khorne-2018
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on October 23, 2018, 03:41:13 PM
new free people stuff??

(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Oct23-RumourEngine95gbir.jpg)
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/10/23/the-rumour-engine-tuesday-23rd-october/

What faction would use feathers like that otherwise?
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Warlord on October 24, 2018, 05:17:04 AM
Interesting...

Could be us, high elves, skinks, or something new with big feathers!
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Zak on October 24, 2018, 07:38:11 PM
 :icon_eek:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on October 26, 2018, 09:03:09 PM
More new Shadespire warbands. Including the troll that was shown earlier.

(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Spiel2018Reveasl-Oct25-MollogsMob3xo.jpg)

Quote
Mollog is accompanied by a small pack of Squiggly beasts, including the already infamous Bat Squig, the toxic Spiteshroom and the Stalagsquig – the squig you never knew you wanted until now. The warband is set to be quite unlike any other that we’ve seen so far in the new season of Warhammer Underworlds, requiring a very different play-style, but it’s probably fair to say that anything on the receiving end of Mollog’s fungal club is in serious trouble!
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on October 26, 2018, 09:38:33 PM
These guys are amazing. I think I must have them. Same with the moonclan grot band.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Zak on November 02, 2018, 03:49:29 AM
that troll!!  :eusa_clap: :eusa_clap: :eusa_clap:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on November 02, 2018, 10:22:01 AM
Don't get too adjusted to this new world.  At some point they are liable to explode it.  So they can create another new world, and sell more figures.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on November 02, 2018, 09:26:16 PM
Grots Battletome incoming!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UU9Gqg9Qfyg

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/11/02/2nd-nov-the-blood-glory-studio-preview-roundup-extravaganzagw-homepage-post-1/

And Wrath and Rapture (new box) Khorne daemons vs Slaanesh!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lomouJfiN60

(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/BloodGloryReveals-Nov2-FleshHounds11be.jpg)
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/BloodGloryReveals-Nov2-Fiends12kg.jpg.jpg)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on November 02, 2018, 09:38:32 PM
New Underworlds warband as well!

(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/BloodGloryReveals-Nov2-DarkoathWarband15yv.jpg)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Sharkbelly on November 02, 2018, 10:22:43 PM
Great looking stuff!
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: S.O.F on November 03, 2018, 02:25:35 PM
A bit too Goliath Gang de-40ked for my taste.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Il Condottiero on November 07, 2018, 02:01:25 PM
I like them Darkoaths as a new interpretation on the same sort of barbaric characters that were Chaos Marauders.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Sharkbelly on November 08, 2018, 07:45:51 AM
Agreed. I could see doing a whole party of them for WQ or and RPG.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Warlord on November 09, 2018, 02:32:05 AM
I like them.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on December 25, 2018, 05:50:20 PM
Gloomspite Gitz inbound!

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/12/25/25th-dec-the-bad-moon-risesgw-homepage-post-1/
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on December 27, 2018, 09:35:06 AM
new models (old models redone)
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/12/26/26th-dec-gloomspite-gitz-revealedgw-homepage-post-1/

Loonsmasha Fanatics
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/GloomspiteGitzRevealed-Dec26-Fanatics-Content.jpg)

Sporesplatta Fanatics
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/GloomspiteGitzRevealed-Dec26-SporesplattaFanatics2-Content.jpg)

Endless Spells
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/GloomspiteGitzRevealed-Dec26-EndlessSpells20rb-1.jpg)

Skragrott the Loonking
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/GloomspiteGitzRevealed-Dec26-Skragrott-Content.jpg)

Bad Moon Loonshrine
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/GloomspiteGitzRevealed-Dec26-BadMoonLoonshrine-Content.jpg)

Squigs
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/GloomspiteGitzRevealed-Dec26-SquigHoppers-Content.jpg)
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/GloomspiteGitzRevealed-Dec26-SquigHerd-Content.jpg)

and there will be more
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on December 27, 2018, 01:17:05 PM
Of all the armies of WH, the night goblins/moonclan are my favourite. Very happy to see this developing.  There is talk of the new battle tome including moonclan, spiderfang, troggoths and gargants. New manglers, and a host of incredible new models. This will be a must I think.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Sharkbelly on December 27, 2018, 02:33:56 PM
These new models are awesome!
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Ursa Doom on December 27, 2018, 07:40:09 PM
I do have the unpainted Night Goblins set from Skull's Pass lying around. I will get around to paint those and later see if I feel the need to expand the force. Those Squigs looks great, so I'm very much tempted to. I just hope that they don't make the new plastic trolls as asymmetrical as the one from Underworlds.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on December 28, 2018, 05:53:02 PM
Just posted in the community. New troggoths and the ability to have a troggoth army. They have gone to town with this release. By the time they get to free peoples its going to be crazy. The whole night goblin, spider/forest goblin, troll  and giant factions under one roof to do what you like.  I think this has been the best release of AoS so far.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/12/28/28th-dec-gloomspite-gitz-the-loregw-homepage-post-1/
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Ursa Doom on December 28, 2018, 06:29:36 PM
It's nice to see that they are sort of staying true to the roots of Night Goblins and not going overboard with the revisions.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Sharkbelly on December 29, 2018, 03:00:54 PM
I do have the unpainted Night Goblins set from Skull's Pass lying around. I will get around to paint those and later see if I feel the need to expand the force. Those Squigs looks great, so I'm very much tempted to. I just hope that they don't make the new plastic trolls as asymmetrical as the one from Underworlds.

Agreed! I have some as well. Add some squigs, maybe a few trolls...
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on December 29, 2018, 04:11:57 PM
I'm not a particularly big gobo man, but I do like the look of the models. I like that they've stayed fairly traditional like that.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Ursa Doom on December 30, 2018, 10:47:07 AM
I think that I will aim to give the gobbos a bit more of an earthly olive skin tone.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Ursa Doom on December 30, 2018, 12:32:51 PM
I'm considering basing the old Skull Pass warboss on a large base decorated with half eaten bits and playing it as the Skarsnik variant.

https://i.redd.it/v1iae1zqofl11.jpg
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on December 30, 2018, 07:28:45 PM
I like the sounds of that. The squig might be a bit on the small side, but I remember Monty Pythons Holy Grail and the true danger of small critters.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Ursa Doom on December 30, 2018, 08:02:08 PM
I'll put him on a mound.

Also, a large reveal of minis, which also includes new Stone Trolls and a Troll Boss.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/12/30/30th-dec-next-weeks-pre-orders-gloomspite-gitz/

(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/CitadelPreOrders-12Jan-RockgutTroggoths-6mi.jpg)

(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/CitadelPreOrders-12Jan-DankholdTroggoth-7mb.jpg)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on December 30, 2018, 08:15:17 PM
I like and approve!👆
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on December 30, 2018, 08:24:48 PM
I really do like those trolls actually. I'm a big fan of the old metal ones and I'd certainly keep them separate, but these are nice to.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on December 30, 2018, 08:31:45 PM
I think these guys look great.
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/CitadelPreOrders-12Jan-Goobapalooza-4mt.jpg)

I don't think I'd ever use them in an army, maybe as wizards, but I'd use them as stuff in RPG games or dioramas.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Ursa Doom on December 30, 2018, 09:25:31 PM
There's not really anything in this wave that I would say that I dislike. I'm also pleased with how the Stone Trolls turned out. I will definitely get a bunch of trolls for my army.

(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/CitadelPreOrders-12Jan-MoonclanWarboss-9jh.jpg)

(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/CitadelPreOrders-12Jan-SneakySnufflers-5lu.jpg)

(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/CitadelPreOrders-12Jan-ManglerSquig-8mz.jpg)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on December 31, 2018, 05:06:40 PM
I think these guys look great.
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/CitadelPreOrders-12Jan-Goobapalooza-4mt.jpg)

I don't think I'd ever use them in an army, maybe as wizards, but I'd use them as stuff in RPG games or dioramas.

The one on the bottom left does give me the idea that the goblins from silve tower will also be ncluded with their own warscroll
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on December 31, 2018, 06:39:42 PM
I think these guys look great.
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/CitadelPreOrders-12Jan-Goobapalooza-4mt.jpg)

I don't think I'd ever use them in an army, maybe as wizards, but I'd use them as stuff in RPG games or dioramas.

The one on the bottom left does give me the idea that the goblins from silve tower will also be ncluded with their own warscroll

Yes! For the love of gobbos everywhere, yes👆
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Victor on January 01, 2019, 04:47:56 PM
Quite creative designs. Very well painted, but too comical for my taste. Looks more and more like something out of a Warcraft video game and those aesthetics I very much dislike. With every new release my interest in seeing what they will do with humans in this new fantasy world declines even further.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Zak on January 05, 2019, 03:16:18 AM
HAHAHAHA
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Warlord on January 07, 2019, 12:47:42 PM
I like it. I’m not seeing a whole lot of new ideas for units though, which disappoints me. Interesting in knowing what those sniffer ones do. Also I like the look of the armoured guy with the moon shaped helmet. Thats a cool idea!
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on January 07, 2019, 01:47:11 PM
Personally, I really like how GW has approached this army. As the night goblins were always my favourite army, they have done a wonderful job in pulling the old and tying it in with the new. Moonclan, forest goblins, trolls and giants. What could be better. Already a fan of the new, AoS2 and this army have gained my entire confidence. I no longer worry if they will squat old armies/units as the warscrolls already exist for everything and have no worry about future factions. No doubt they will pull all time favorites from the past and combine them with the new.
Starting this year,  I have no hobby room, no new rules or battletomes, nothing new 40k - zip on it all but I have a definite plan now. AoS2 will be the main system I work on now. I’ll start with stormcast and alternate after each unit with a gloomspite unit pulled from my old army and supplemented with the new gloomspite models. I have both dragon and lion rampant rules and may digress a bit with them but as I don’t have the time or committed resources for anything else, I’ll stick with my new plan.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on February 08, 2019, 06:06:09 AM
Another new shadespire warband. This time the sylvaneth.

(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/LVOStudioPreview-Feb7-WHUWSylvaneth20ted.jpg)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Rowsdower on February 27, 2019, 02:51:50 AM
I'm looking forward to getting some of those new dark elf witch's [or whatever the new name is] so I can finish that mermaid army I started a couple of years ago
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on March 13, 2019, 07:53:34 AM
From news from GAMMA: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/03/11/breaking-news-from-gama/

New expansion coming: Forbidden Power (vid in the article)

and new Skirmish game from the makers of Kill Team and Underworld:
Warcry
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/GAMAReveals-Mar11-Warcry9gce.jpg)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Sharkbelly on March 26, 2019, 04:35:42 AM
Warcry looks pretty cool. I'm interested to learn more about it.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on March 28, 2019, 11:43:11 AM
Multiple news facts coming again from GW

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/03/28/breaking-news-dark-power-unleashed/

More about Hidden Power, an expansion set
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/AdepticonReveals-Mar27-FPBox17olmvndg.jpg)

with more general endless spells
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/AdepticonReveals-Mar27-Spells12yhveg.jpg)
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/AdepticonReveals-Mar27-Spells13jjcvdbghvd.jpg)
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/AdepticonReveals-Mar27-Spells14uchsfhvxdgj.jpg)

New / Updated battletome coming:
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/AdepticonReveals-Mar27-FyreslayersBattletome1yvrhsvkdhg.jpg)

with their own faction endless spells:
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/AdepticonReveals-Mar27-FyreSpells4kjvhdsf.jpg)
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/AdepticonReveals-Mar27-FyreSpells3jbvhfnhgr.jpg)

for Warhammer Underworlds Nightvault a new group
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/AdepticonReveals-Mar27-WHUWProfiteers5jkvdbhfw.jpg)

Iron Golems for Warcry
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/AdepticonReveals-Mar27-IronGolem8herbhvhfjg-1.jpg)
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/AdepticonReveals-Mar27-IronGolem9bgvhfs.jpg)
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/AdepticonReveals-Mar27-IronGolem18ejvrhsd.jpg)

and fauna (chaos critters)
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/AdepticonReveals-Mar27-Furie10jbnvdjs.jpg)
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/AdepticonReveals-Mar27-Raptoryx11ljbfhsb.jpg)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on March 28, 2019, 11:46:14 AM
AND!!

New Slaanesh Battletome
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/AdepticonReveals-Mar27-HoSBattletome2uhbfn-500x500.jpg)

With new gribblies:

Keeper of Secrets:
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/AdepticonReveals-Mar27-KoS7jhjgfdbwkdfkf.jpg)

and more new models:
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/AdepticonReveals-Mar27-Slaanesh43jjhfvbdgfhsg-500x500.jpg)
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/AdepticonReveals-Mar27-Slaanesh41yycfhhwfdf-500x500.jpg)
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/AdepticonReveals-Mar27-Slaanesh42ujvdngfs.jpg)

their endless spells:
(https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/AdepticonReveals-Mar27-SlaaneshSpells44hghvgdeg.jpg)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Zygmund on March 28, 2019, 03:22:28 PM
Any idea how does Warcry relate rules-wise to AoS and/or the board games? A thing of its own, or an iteration/setting in the previous?

I very much like the idea of cultures, instead of the good/neutral/evil races.

-Z
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on March 28, 2019, 04:54:22 PM
They've not given any information out rules wise at the moment.

My impression is that it's a new rules system, in the way Kill Team was for 40k, but that was 90% the same as 40k anyway.  So I expect this to be much like AoS, rather than anything like Underworlds.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on March 29, 2019, 04:01:35 PM
That's my impression to. Some kind of skirmish/kill team thing. They've really gotten on board with that kind of stuff, and it gives them a chance to make some interesting and unique looking models without redoing a whole army book or trying to make an entire unit. I'm also a real fan of the whole different cultures thing.

I also like the Khadron Underworlds team. One of the first that's really caught my interest. Some of the Endless Spells also look real neat as possible scenery. We don't play with Endless Spells here, but I might pick up some like the Fyreslayer ones to make the board look fancy.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Warlord on April 02, 2019, 03:04:11 AM
I really like those Dwarf endless spells.... can see myself buying that.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: The Penguin on April 02, 2019, 08:10:50 AM
Love these dwarven "spells". The forge-thing will be great for my next terrain project!
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Oxycutor on April 02, 2019, 09:12:36 AM
I think the forge is a scenery piece for the Fireslayers rather than an Endless spell.  The magma golem thing is though
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on April 07, 2019, 01:25:32 PM
Not sure where to put this, but TGA community seams to be unavailable. For maintenance or something?
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on April 07, 2019, 06:47:57 PM
Not sure where to put this, but TGA community seams to be unavailable. For maintenance or something?

Never mind. Back up after a day or so
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on May 04, 2019, 05:09:25 PM
More war cry previews! This time a look at what they call a more 'classic' look chaos warband.

Quote
Meet the Untamed Beasts – perhaps Warcry’s most savage warband (and believe us, they’ve got some stiff competition). Hailing from the Jagged Savannah in Ghur, these raiders have a distinctly old-school aesthetic that’s reminiscent of classic Marauders and barbarians of Warhammer’s past. If you’re looking for a warband that looks like it came straight from the pages of Slaves to Darkness, these are the guys for you!

(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/ChampionshipStoreSeminar-May4-WarcryGroup1jvr.jpg)

(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/ChampionshipStoreSeminar-May4-WarcryGroup2ujd.jpg)

Quote
Just as distinct as their Chamonite counterparts, the Iron Golems, the Untamed Beasts are nomadic warriors. They scorn those who indulge in fripperies like establishing permanent settlements or wearing forge-crafted armour, instead subsisting on hunting carnivorous beasts – or any unfortunates who’ve stumbled into their domain.

The Untamed Beasts have a really distinct and dynamic aesthetic that sets them apart from other Chaos models. Traditionally, the servants of the Dark Gods are trudging, resolute, ironclad creatures. Instead, each of these models is bursting with energy and dynamism. At first glance, you could well mistake the Untamed Beasts for hunting animals. Just as with the Iron Golems, the rich, dark world of Warcry has allowed our designers to shed light on new facets of Chaos, as well as giving us insight into life in the wilds of the Mortal Realms themselves.

(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/ChampionshipStoreSeminar-May4-WarcryGroup3ughdc.jpg)

(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/ChampionshipStoreSeminar-May4-Rocktust8hcvhe.jpg)

Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on May 04, 2019, 05:11:14 PM
Then there's a ton of new scenery coming for the Forbidden Power Expansion!

(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/ChampionshipStoreSeminar-May4-Terrain5ujce.jpg)

(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/ChampionshipStoreSeminar-May4-Terrain6kwfe.jpg)

(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/ChampionshipStoreSeminar-May4-Terrain4yjhcd.jpg)

And some art, because I thought it looked cool.

(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/ChampionshipStoreSeminar-May4-CelestantPrimeDuel21hkd.jpg)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on May 05, 2019, 01:24:46 AM
Again, chaos tries to convert me! Very nice.
If all goes well, (a big if) I plan to get this. There is a lot of value here.

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-CA/AoS-Looncurse-EN-2019?utm_campaign=e514f25859-GW_4th_May_Looncurse_EN_NA&utm_source=GamesWorkshop.com&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_c6e14e39d2-e514f25859-115093997
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Sharkbelly on May 05, 2019, 04:27:07 AM
Yeah, so many cool things coming out all at once. The terrain looks great! So does Warcry!.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on May 08, 2019, 01:03:22 AM
Again, chaos tries to convert me! Very nice.
If all goes well, (a big if) I plan to get this. There is a lot of value here.

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-CA/AoS-Looncurse-EN-2019?utm_campaign=e514f25859-GW_4th_May_Looncurse_EN_NA&utm_source=GamesWorkshop.com&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_c6e14e39d2-e514f25859-115093997

Never f’ing mind. Sold out online already...........
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on May 08, 2019, 01:48:44 AM
Wow that was quick!
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on May 09, 2019, 08:39:47 PM
Again, chaos tries to convert me! Very nice.
If all goes well, (a big if) I plan to get this. There is a lot of value here.

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-CA/AoS-Looncurse-EN-2019?utm_campaign=e514f25859-GW_4th_May_Looncurse_EN_NA&utm_source=GamesWorkshop.com&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_c6e14e39d2-e514f25859-115093997

Never f’ing mind. Sold out online already...........

Yay! Apparently 3 boxes are arriving in Ottawa Saturday at the local GW.  If I get my arse in by noon, one of those babies are mine !!!!!!
If the stars align, I shall update then.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on May 11, 2019, 10:09:28 AM
Warhammer Fest new reveals at 3 BST for AoS
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/05/10/warhammer-fest-uk-2019-live-bloggw-homepage-post-3fw-homepage-post-1/

(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Fest2019-Sat09-Previews2uje.jpg)

We already got Contrast Paint.. interesting idea.. not so sure about it

(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Fest2019-Sat10-Flowchart4ujd.jpg)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on May 11, 2019, 11:10:00 AM
wrong thread...
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on May 11, 2019, 07:53:51 PM
Again, chaos tries to convert me! Very nice.
If all goes well, (a big if) I plan to get this. There is a lot of value here.

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-CA/AoS-Looncurse-EN-2019?utm_campaign=e514f25859-GW_4th_May_Looncurse_EN_NA&utm_source=GamesWorkshop.com&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_c6e14e39d2-e514f25859-115093997

Never f’ing mind. Sold out online already...........

Yay! Apparently 3 boxes are arriving in Ottawa Saturday at the local GW.  If I get my arse in by noon, one of those babies are mine !!!!!!
If the stars align, I shall update then.

Have👆
I guess I’ll have to come up with a workbench by hook or by crook now. Looks like my night goblin army will make the switch to gloomspite now.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on May 11, 2019, 11:36:46 PM
The greenskin clans gather!
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on May 12, 2019, 12:13:02 PM
As expected Generls Handbook

(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Fest2019-Sat15-GenHandbook2019uhjf.jpg)

for Warcry:
The Splintered Fang (Chaos)
(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Fest2019-Sat15-WarcrySF4jcd-1.jpg)
(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Fest2019-Sat15-WarcrySF3ikcd-1.jpg)
(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Fest2019-Sat15-WarcrySF2ujd-1.jpg)
(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Fest2019-Sat15-WarcrySF1yks-1.jpg)

and for Underworlds a new faction with this
(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Fest2019-Sat15-WHUWCat1kjkbf-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Zak on May 13, 2019, 07:54:22 PM
HUMANS you &%$#@ !!!!
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Warlord on May 14, 2019, 08:34:18 AM
I think those chaos models are human...

But yeah, anyone who liked any of the old human stuff, they are making it clear this game not for us.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Zak on May 14, 2019, 02:09:22 PM
I think those chaos models are human...

But yeah, anyone who liked any of the old human stuff, they are making it clear this game not for us.


im thinking you are right  :icon_sad:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on May 14, 2019, 05:53:22 PM
There's perpetually word that they'll get around to Free People. Sadly its been the word on the street for like 3 years now.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on May 15, 2019, 07:12:19 AM
There's perpetually word that they'll get around to Free People. Sadly its been the word on the street for like 3 years now.

I asked in one of the WHTV session chats and did got an answer from one of the mods: Knotley.. that there is something to look out for, but for me it's see first believe then..
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on May 15, 2019, 03:09:41 PM
Exactly. I feel the same to.

In other faction hopes as well I'm still waiting for a dispossessed book. My other main army is dwarves, I even have a small AoS marathon day coming up this summer, and it would have been really nice to have an actual book to use with them. At least the Grand Alliance Order book has some good stuff like Artefacts. Except it doesn't have the bloody points...

I am pretty impressed with their war scroll builder though. A great free app that puts your army together and includes the points.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on May 31, 2019, 04:40:25 PM
I'm slipping in here to take the glory of showing off the new previews. Check out the latest look at a new warcry warband.

Quote
Meet the Corvus Cabal – a shadowy pack of murderers hailing from Ulgu. These guys worship Chaos as a vast, black-feathered bird known as the Great Gatherer, offering trophies stolen from their victims to this strange deity. The Corvus Cabal have come to the Varanspire to seek the patronage of Archaon, who they see as an avatar of the Great Gatherer. They use stealth, guile and unnatural cunning to claim victory in the Bloodwind Spoil.

(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/EXPO-May30-WarCryCorvus11bba.jpg)

(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/EXPO-May31-Cabal9elf.jpg)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on June 01, 2019, 03:49:12 PM
New Gotrex model coming, and he looks ace.

(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/BLLiveReveals-Jun1-GotrekMini1coiy.jpg)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on June 01, 2019, 10:25:17 PM
Wow!
I like 😺
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Zak on June 02, 2019, 02:03:35 AM
oh that's nice  :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on June 02, 2019, 02:31:18 AM
I'm a huge fan! Even if I keep calling him Gotrex instead of Gotrek. I do it all the time and still can't remember it.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Warlord on June 03, 2019, 01:47:52 AM
Skavenslayer!

Also I like the idea of what you are doing with all those new marauder models.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Victor on July 13, 2019, 10:04:15 AM
New Warband. The tall one looks silly, but the rest are well done I think. Certainly a step away from the kid-friendlyness of some other AoS releases.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/07/10/warcry-a-new-warband-risesgw-homepage-post-1/

(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/WarcryUnmade-Jul10-Content1uyjc.jpg)

(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/WarcryUnmade-Jul10-Content2uhx.jpg)

Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Zak on July 13, 2019, 03:35:19 PM
"They wear their own faces on their belts" ..whoa  :unsure:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on July 13, 2019, 06:51:59 PM
Talk about keeping a smile on your face.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on August 02, 2019, 02:21:54 AM
New Warhammer underworlds season, with a new starter set and two new warbands.

Quote
This is Warhammer Underworlds: Beastgrave – the triumphant third season of the ultimate competitive miniatures game. We’ve taken everything you love from the previous two seasons of Warhammer Underworlds and refined it even further, giving you the definitive Warhammer Underworlds experience. Look forward to an even tighter ruleset, sharply designed game mechanics, unusual and rewarding new card design and some incredible new warbands.
Speaking of which, let’s take a look at the stars of the new Core Set – Draknar’s Ravagers and Skaeth’s Wild Hunt.

In this season of Warhammer Underworlds, our game designers have worked closely with the miniatures team to create an incredible range of warbands we can’t wait to share with you. Take Draknar’s Ravagers – this vicious pack of Beastmen are fast, deadly and cunning, bringing the ambushing, dark-magic slinging, horn-gouging awesomeness of the Beasts of Chaos to a brand-new game system. The models look great too, giving us the first Bestigor, Ungors and Great Bray-Shaman specifically designed for the Mortal Realms.

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[quote]Meanwhile, Skaeth’s Wild Hunt offers us new insights into the Mortal Realms with our first look at the Kurnothi – aelf-like creatures with a savage style of their own. Offering a fast and highly specialised group of fighters, they’re a deadly and flexible warband capable of cutting down enemies at any range[/quote]

[img]https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/GenConreveals-Aug1-WHUWKurnothi11vhgwr.jpg)

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Beastgrave also brings us to another of the Mortal Realms’ underworlds, as the setting of the game moves to the savage depths of Ghur. The Necroquake has permanently damaged the Mirrored City, causing it to bleed into the ancient mountain known as Beastgrave.

As the curse of the Katophranes leeches into the long-dormant edifice, savage powers thought long-dead awaken, with streets of shadeglass jutting from pillars of bone and catacombs of living amber. Just as in previous Warhammer Underworlds games, you’ll discover the mysterious history of the Beastgrave in art and card text, offering you a glimpse of one of the Mortal Realms’ most fascinating locations.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on August 02, 2019, 02:24:34 AM
(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/GenConreveals-Aug1-WHUWKurnothi11vhgwr.jpg)

(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/GenConreveals-Aug1-WHUWBeastmen10ejmcg.jpg)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Zak on August 02, 2019, 05:08:49 PM
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH *&^%$ BAsterds  :icon_evil: :icon_evil: :icon_evil:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on August 02, 2019, 06:58:33 PM
I actually quite like the satyr look of them compared to the beastmen. I don't think this will be the only wood elf kind of models we get, just one of the new altered aelven tribes.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on August 02, 2019, 07:01:57 PM
Looks like the result of some Slayers grinding their great weapons into Wood Elf maidens...

Edit:  and they do not seem to have limited themselves to human maidens...
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on August 02, 2019, 07:08:36 PM
#WE Too...
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Zak on August 02, 2019, 08:01:27 PM
I wonder why they have not really came forward with the basic human adventure, fighter whatever? I wonder if it would allow those of us WITH HUGE Freaking collections of humans play our older figures without buying new ones!!! thus the Basterd reaction  :closed-eyes:

HEY GW if they look good ill still buy them !!!! **^*&%$&$(*)  :icon_evil:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on August 02, 2019, 08:11:54 PM
I wonder why they have not really came forward with the basic human adventure, fighter whatever? I wonder if it would allow those of us WITH HUGE Freaking collections of humans play our older figures without buying new ones!!! thus the Basterd reaction  :closed-eyes:

HEY GW if they look good ill still buy them !!!! **^*&%$&$(*)  :icon_evil:

I have to admit I’m not sure why the glacial rate of progress on the humans.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Victor on August 08, 2019, 11:49:55 AM
Damn Chaos!


Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on August 08, 2019, 12:02:47 PM
#WE Too...
Is this a new or ancient language?
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on August 08, 2019, 12:06:48 PM
I wonder why they have not really came forward with the basic human adventure, fighter whatever? I wonder if it would allow those of us WITH HUGE Freaking collections of humans play our older figures without buying new ones!!! thus the Basterd reaction  :closed-eyes:

HEY GW if they look good ill still buy them !!!! **^*&%$&$(*)  :icon_evil:
I have to admit I’m not sure why the glacial rate of progress on the humans.
Probably a business decision of some kind.  Imagine that.

Choosing what they think will sell, that might look cool, then get around to humans because they know us Empire folk are still buying the older figures?  Now they're prepping to release humans, while getting rid of the older figures.

We might end up actually liking whatever new humans they release.  Might.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on August 08, 2019, 12:54:53 PM
#WE Too...
Is this a new or ancient language?

Contemporary Anglian.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Zak on August 08, 2019, 11:16:20 PM
I wonder why they have not really came forward with the basic human adventure, fighter whatever? I wonder if it would allow those of us WITH HUGE Freaking collections of humans play our older figures without buying new ones!!! thus the Basterd reaction  :closed-eyes:

HEY GW if they look good ill still buy them !!!! **^*&%$&$(*)  :icon_evil:
I have to admit I’m not sure why the glacial rate of progress on the humans.
Probably a business decision of some kind.  Imagine that.

Choosing what they think will sell, that might look cool, then get around to humans because they know us Empire folk are still buying the older figures?  Now they're prepping to release humans, while getting rid of the older figures.

We might end up actually liking whatever new humans they release.  Might.


You are right we might love them.. I hope so  :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Victor on August 19, 2019, 01:48:40 PM
Apparently a new skeleton based undead army will be released soon. Not a fan of most AoS-era miniatures, but the undead minis thus far have been mostly fantastic. Could be very nice.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on August 19, 2019, 01:51:08 PM
#WE Too...
Is this a new or ancient language?
Contemporary Anglian.
It all seems like a rabbit hole. :icon_wink:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Victor on August 25, 2019, 08:10:25 PM
Apparently a new skeleton based undead army will be released soon. Not a fan of most AoS-era miniatures, but the undead minis thus far have been mostly fantastic. Could be very nice.

Hmm .. the latest teaser-video seems to suggest that this army is a fantasy version of Necrons. Not what I was hoping for, but that fits the AoS theme.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/08/25/the-tithe-episode-iii-mortarch/
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Warlord on August 28, 2019, 08:33:54 AM
Armoured skeletons with crazy catapult. New Tomb Kings replacement I would say.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Zak on August 28, 2019, 06:44:12 PM
Armoured skeletons with crazy catapult. New Tomb Kings replacement I would say.


looks like everything undead combined into one force … hmmm now where did this idea come from
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on August 29, 2019, 12:52:00 AM
Whole new army coming!

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Relentless. Disciplined. Deathless. These are the Ossiarch Bonereapers – the culmination of centuries of planning by Nagash and the harbingers of his dark reign. Where the Legions of Nagash are the foot soldiers of Death and the Nighthaunt are the shock troops, the Ossiarch Bonereapers are the vanguard of a new order.

These are not risen warriors or malignant spirits – they are bespoke war-constructs forged from harvested bone and gifted the soul animus of great warriors and heroes. Alone, they have hundreds of lifetimes of experience and brutal physical prowess. Unified, they are nigh unstoppable, directed into battle by Katakros, Mortarch of the Necropolis – perhaps the greatest military strategist (living, or dead) the Mortal Realms have ever known.

The backbone (see what we did there?) of the Ossiarch Bonereapers are the legions of Mortek Guard and spearheads of Kavalos Deathriders. Each contains the souls of dozens of mortal warriors, and each is a brutally effective combatant, fighting with utter discipline even in the most chaotic battles. These warriors aren’t automata – they have personalities befitting their roles in Nagash’s dark regime. While Mortek Guard are forthright and dutiful, Kavalos Deathriders are possessed of towering arrogance, as suits their role as heralds of the Great Necromancer.

Leading the Ossiarch Bonereapers is none other than Katakros himself. This is no embittered spirit, arch-schemer of the world-that-was or devoted sycophant, but a terrifying new paragon of unlife itself. Granted a new existence in a body of ensorcelled bone, Orpheon Katakros is Nagash’s plan for the Mortal Realms made manifest – efficient, remorseless and instilled with a chilling disregard for life. He’s a real chip off the ol’ Black Pyramid…

(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Nova-Aug29-AoS-Models3grd.jpg)

(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Nova-Aug29-AoS-Models6htd.jpg)

(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Nova-Aug29-AoS-Models55ytg.jpg)

(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Nova-Aug29-AoS-Models4rgfd.jpg)

(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Nova-Aug29-AoS-Models2gffds.jpg)

(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Nova-Aug29-AoS-Models4htd.jpg)

Check out the video on the page to!

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/08/29/breaking-news-sisters-psykers-and-skeletonsgw-homepage-post-4/
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on August 29, 2019, 03:26:22 AM
Uh boy.  Fantasy style Necrons, lovely.

I like it when fantasy is fantasy and sci-fi is sci-fi.  Having the two interconnect like what we're seeing is less than attractive to me.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Victor on August 29, 2019, 11:50:06 AM
... fantasy version of Necrons ...

I think that was a spot on assessment. I'm confused as to what I am looking at here. Strange designs. A weird mix of endoskeleton and exoskeleton, like an insect. I'm definitely with GamesPoet on this one. This looks like something that could have been in a 80s cartoon like He-Man. I very much prefer 'classic' undead like the Deathrattle Sepulchral Guard from 2 years ago. This has no appeal to me.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Zak on August 29, 2019, 01:50:04 PM
THAT IS THE BEST THING I HAVE EVER SEEN   :dry:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on August 29, 2019, 03:11:49 PM
A bit of heavy sarcasm there? :icon_wink:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on August 29, 2019, 04:59:34 PM
I have to admit. I’m not very keen on this group. Really liked the nighthaunts but not theses guys. Never was to crazy about necrons either and the comparison is a good one.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on August 29, 2019, 05:02:07 PM
I liked the idea of Necrons in 40K. But fantasy Necrons? It's the next bad step to blending together and giving up on fantasy if they choose.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on August 29, 2019, 06:15:46 PM
I freaking love the night haunt ghosties. These guys... eh, not doing it for me. I also don't like the lore. Now its just dead stormcast, but with multiple spirits crammed into a body!
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Victor on August 29, 2019, 07:52:15 PM
Undead constructs with multiple personality disorder ....

And that's not even a joke.

Quote
Necropolis Stalkers, for instance, are infused with the souls of four legendary warriors apiece, giving them the ability to shift personalities mid-battle in order to change their fighting style.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Rowsdower on August 30, 2019, 12:16:38 AM
I know EXACTLY what I'm going to do with the Grievous-looking dudes. Its gonna be an ambitious project
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on August 30, 2019, 03:56:12 AM
That new faction, there's no way they haven't designed them look like Necrons unintentionally.  This way folks who are into 40K can use these figures for conversion or whatever over into there 40K Necron armies.  It really is a no brainer.

- - -

I'm trying to keep my expectations low for any new Free people figures.  Especially after seeing the W:AoS Necrons.

By the way, I can see where at least one of the new Warcry factions might double as free people figures. Can not recall the faction name, although they reminded me of Greeks, perhaps something out of the Greek like culture I recall living in the southwestern Border Princes of the Olde World.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on August 30, 2019, 07:04:31 AM
I must be a loner in this then here.. I rather like the look of the new Ossiarch Bonereapers, though I doubt I will start an army with them any time soon as I got enough projects still lingering around to be done.

And actually waiting for the Free City stuff to become available
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on August 30, 2019, 09:23:30 AM
I must be a loner in this then here.. I rather like the look of the new Ossiarch Bonereapers, though I doubt I will start an army with them any time soon as I got enough projects still lingering around to be done.

And actually waiting for the Free City stuff to become available

Not a loner at all. On TGA, the reception has been very good.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Warlord on August 30, 2019, 03:20:08 PM
They look horrible. I was hoping for better. I am hoping its the paintjob.

I also don't like the lore. Now its just dead stormcast, but with multiple spirits crammed into a body!

I noticed that and thought it was pretty lazy to be honest.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on August 30, 2019, 04:15:21 PM
Ugh, the thought that ... humans in the Olde World form the spirits of the Stormcrud Eternals, and their spirits are then crammed into W:AoS Necrons, and that eventually this could become the Necrons of 40K ... complete crud that needs to be flushed down the toilet. :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gargolock on August 30, 2019, 07:34:14 PM
Oh I do not like those. Those do not look good to me. The horsemen aren't that bad but the rest are just worse Necrons. I like some of the actual AoS factions designs but these are just bad.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Victor on September 07, 2019, 01:28:39 PM
(https://scontent-frt3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/69520869_859885207253_8131801700529864704_n.jpg?_nc_cat=111&_nc_oc=AQnpu6YCl8by6n1_fDm_jrvqKGpAVcr_kmgC3NKWlJWTwZVZQY63ZRiWxNOgLYknStg&_nc_ht=scontent-frt3-2.xx&oh=b25cec972fa3904981e58b657080c4d8&oe=5E05A24C)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on September 07, 2019, 02:17:50 PM
This is so not inspiring. :icon_sad:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Victor on September 07, 2019, 11:37:01 PM
This is so not inspiring. :icon_sad:

Not? Well ... then how about this?  :roll:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/09/07/a-bone-to-pickgw-homepage-post-2/

(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/HavesterOnWhite-WC1.jpg)

(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/ImmortisOnWhite-WC1.jpg)

(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Army-WC.jpg)

P.S.:
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Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on September 08, 2019, 12:32:41 AM
Look at the adorable little legs on that big guy!
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on September 08, 2019, 03:04:24 AM
And I thought the Stormcrud eternals were bad.  This might be making the fantasy space marines look a bit better.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: S.O.F on September 08, 2019, 04:12:58 AM
Being that the name for the faction is something like Boneruler Bonereapers, I think how awful they look fits the name.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on September 08, 2019, 11:40:19 AM
I actually like that big thingy. Very much. The rest will have to grow on me.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on September 08, 2019, 12:18:48 PM
Sorry ... but now we have fantasy Necrons in league with fantasy Tyranids.  Bah!

You heard it here first.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on September 08, 2019, 12:45:25 PM
Quote GP: fantasy Tyranids

Maybe? They do look suspicious.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on September 08, 2019, 02:10:53 PM
Look at the little evil head peering out between those smaller arms in the middle of the bony monsters chest.  Then mix that with the tail, and the chopping arms ... it's a freaking early version of a tyranid.

So I can see it now, Nagash sets in motion the early version of Necrons (before it was cool to be a Necron ... lol), but little does he know that tyranids develop as worse creatures are developed into large living zombies of the beast created by the fantasy Necrons.  Then there is a revolution, the early versions of the fleshy Tyranids revolt against the mechanical nature of the early Necrons as the Necrons begin developing along the lines of high tech undead, and the Tyranids move in the direction of living zombie creatures.

It is a ghastly history, and written here first. If GW comes up with this idea, they stole it from me. :icon_wink:

They'll claim I just guessed correctly, I'm sure.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on September 08, 2019, 02:21:29 PM
Are you secretly working for GW, GP?
That sounds pretty good.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Cèsar de Quart on September 09, 2019, 02:20:36 PM
I like the idea behind them, and with a different paintjob and no stupid grins or clown faces, I can see them looking mighty fine on the tabletop. I'm all for wacky, bizarre beasts in an Undead faction (one of my Mordheim warbands was an undead Carnival marching band, with instruments and all).

But, as someone said in TGA, they are capital G goofy, and serious minded people will need time to adapt.

When they released the "new" Imperial state troopers I complained for weeks about their moron faces, the lack of pomp and breeches, and the fact that some had ragged clothes or were barefoot. Now I love these quirks. It's nice when your Reikland regiment looks drilled and uniformed, while your Sitrland troops look ragtag and broke.

Also, the Mortarch and his liutenants... that's a very fine model.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on September 09, 2019, 02:27:20 PM
Look at the little evil head peering out between those smaller arms in the middle of the bony monsters chest.  Then mix that with the tail, and the chopping arms ... it's a freaking early version of a tyranid.

So I can see it now, Nagash sets in motion the early version of Necrons (before it was cool to be a Necron ... lol), but little does he know that tyranids develop as worse creatures are developed into large living zombies of the beast created by the fantasy Necrons.  Then there is a revolution, the early versions of the fleshy Tyranids revolt against the mechanical nature of the early Necrons as the Necrons begin developing along the lines of high tech undead, and the Tyranids move in the direction of living zombie creatures.

It is a ghastly history, and written here first. If GW comes up with this idea, they stole it from me. :icon_wink:

They'll claim I just guessed correctly, I'm sure.
Are you secretly working for GW, GP?
That sounds pretty good.
I've been called a lot of things in my life, but never a GW employee.  Besides, they'd now probably fire me, unless of course I was just planting this idea to see how it goes over with fans. :icon_wink: :icon_lol:

I thank SteveB for inspiring me to broaden my horizons when it came to fantastical stuff, yet even he might not be thrilled with the look of these ... abominations.  He might have come up with a similar story though.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on September 09, 2019, 03:28:20 PM
I think I'd like the Mortarch with a different colour scheme. And I do like the Japanese influence on some of them. It's a nice change, and the helmets especially look pretty neat.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Zak on September 09, 2019, 04:57:31 PM
*** zak continues to bang his head against the wall***

Why GW why would you kill a perfectly good game for this???  :cry:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Warlord on September 11, 2019, 04:05:22 AM
I dont understand the anatomy or biological elements that would go over those type of bones? I think to appreciate an undead aesthetic, you need to know what the living one looks like first.

It looks like the bone is armour, rather than structural. So exo-skeletons? What creatures did this come from?
Its just not well thought out.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on September 11, 2019, 09:14:54 AM
I dont understand the anatomy or biological elements that would go over those type of bones? I think to appreciate an undead aesthetic, you need to know what the living one looks like first.

It looks like the bone is armour, rather than structural. So exo-skeletons? What creatures did this come from?
Its just not well thought out.

they aren't from a creature... but mutiple put together and mashed up to "build" something new
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on September 11, 2019, 02:52:58 PM
It's better to think of them like the Tomb Kings ushabti or bone giants, but with a soul spark in them instead of just magic. They've been constructed out of pieces and smoothed like sculptures to make warriors, not just animated off a battlefield.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on September 11, 2019, 04:40:04 PM
Looks like Fantasy Necrons with Tyranid forerunners to me. Nagash founded two 40K factions! :icon_wink: :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Warlord on September 12, 2019, 04:48:18 AM
With what pieces? Pieces from what?
They fit together too smoothly to form humanoid bodies, yet the bones are more exoskeleton than structural.
They have skull faces - from what?

If the story was they ground up bones and they fused metal and bone to sculpt armour, it would make more sense. If they are composites, then they should be way more deformed. Again, this just demonstrates complete lack of anatomy and common sense.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on September 12, 2019, 09:11:11 AM
With what pieces? Pieces from what?
They fit together too smoothly to form humanoid bodies, yet the bones are more exoskeleton than structural.
They have skull faces - from what?

If the story was they ground up bones and they fused metal and bone to sculpt armour, it would make more sense. If they are composites, then they should be way more deformed. Again, this just demonstrates complete lack of anatomy and common sense.

We will have to wait till the Battletome for the complete story behind the "construction"of these to be sure
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Cèsar de Quart on September 12, 2019, 05:12:34 PM
With what pieces? Pieces from what?
They fit together too smoothly to form humanoid bodies, yet the bones are more exoskeleton than structural.
They have skull faces - from what?

If the story was they ground up bones and they fused metal and bone to sculpt armour, it would make more sense. If they are composites, then they should be way more deformed. Again, this just demonstrates complete lack of anatomy and common sense.

I have to agree. They are supposed to be constructs, but they're not very imaginative. Maybe Nagash has little creativity.

I like the big monster because it's a wild bone construct, though. The Morghasts, while I loathe their dessign and overall appearance, are a better idea, conceptually speaking, than the "just joker guys made of bone".
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on September 14, 2019, 03:28:26 PM
Moving on to something that looks much better, new gobbo wolf riders! For Beastgrave, but I'll take em.

(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/WHUWBeastgravePreview-Sep15-Snarlfangs7idfev.jpg)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Zak on September 14, 2019, 04:59:45 PM
Moving on to something that looks much better, new gobbo wolf riders! For Beastgrave, but I'll take em.

(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/WHUWBeastgravePreview-Sep15-Snarlfangs7idfev.jpg)


NOW that's what im talking about  :::cheers::: :::cheers::: :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on September 14, 2019, 05:35:38 PM
These are awesome! Where do they fit in AoS proper.  I heard that gitmobs  where being dropped. Maybe reorganized?
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: The Black Knight on September 14, 2019, 05:52:54 PM
Wow, something not-horrible for a change  :icon_eek:!

These will make fine Big Bosses on wolves for my goblin horde
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on September 14, 2019, 05:59:35 PM
Currently they're going to be a new warband for Beastgrave, which is essentially "Season 2" of Shadespire. So they don't slot exactly into an army list. Kind of like the troll and weird squigs. That said, I'm seeing a lot of chatter that they're going to be put into a goblin army book, its just a question of which one.

Either way, I like these! Much better. I'd be interested in seeing the scale of them because GW makes some weird wolves some times, but the look of them is much, much better.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Zygmund on September 15, 2019, 09:22:45 AM
Had to check their webstore, and the old Goblins (Grots) are gone! When? Perhaps about time, the sculpts must have been some 20 years old.

Agree on the need to see the scale of these. But they surely look good.

-Z
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Cèsar de Quart on September 15, 2019, 09:57:12 AM
Given the Mongolian inspired aesthetics, they may appear in the Ogre release which is supposed to come out soon this month.

I think it's baffling that such a tame design, so faithful to the older version, has come out all the way from the design panel. Maybe it's a bone to the old timers, maybe it's a sign that GW wants to bring more of the Old Word back to the AoS. I'd like the second option, because it would mean that we'd get NEW IMPERIAL KNIGHTS GODDAMNIT.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on September 15, 2019, 11:02:31 AM
Quote Cesar: Given the Mongolian inspired aesthetics, they may appear in the Ogre release which is supposed to come out soon this month.

Bingo! That makes good sense. Maybe a more goblin version of gnoblars?
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on September 15, 2019, 11:33:18 AM
Hmmm ... those goblin wolf riders are a bit of a surprise, and after the release of the Fantasy Necrons & Tyranid precursors, this is almost shocking.

My only complaint is the way they sculpted the saddles with wrapping down around on to the fore legs. Although if a wolf is found sitting, perhaps this helps the goblin stay on? Not surprising for a goblin to come up with such an idea, but GW ... hmmm ... maybe they're really are goblins hiding out in the world, GW stunningly has found them, and has decided not to piss them off with ridiculously inaccurate sculpting.  I can just see the goblins now moving across England to take out the GW facilities, riding wolves no less.  Are there still wolves in England? Or maybe these come from Scandinavia, like the Vikings of old, and the Goblins are hiding out there.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on September 15, 2019, 12:14:11 PM
I think GP May be into the goblin shroom juice this morning 😺
Excellent fluff for the Nottingham coup !

I always liked the ogre aesthetic but never bought them. If this is an idea for their side kicks, I think I’m in
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on September 15, 2019, 01:10:39 PM
 :icon_lol: I've always like Orcs & Gobos.  And I have an Ork army, almost fully painted, with grots, which in my view are perhaps smaller gobos.

I'm not convinced this is for Ogres.  Remember from my view W:AoS is a transition to 40K.

And these goblins are meant to sell.  Perhaps they will eventually be added to the newest Orcs, can't recall what they are being called now, not sure I want to know, are these even being called goblins?
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: S.O.F on September 15, 2019, 01:22:49 PM
Yep those are great minis, which makes those other undead things so much more frustrating.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Warlord on September 15, 2019, 01:57:43 PM
Love them. Won’t rank up well though. :engel:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on September 21, 2019, 11:39:32 PM
My son just dropped by. Said he just picked up the new Gotrek miniature. Only 5 left at the local GW.

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-CA/Gotrek-Gurnisson-2019
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on September 22, 2019, 12:15:37 AM
Those are not Skaven under that mess of rubble, no such thing. :icon_wink:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Rowsdower on September 22, 2019, 07:12:56 AM
I went to a Games Workshop today. Most of the stuff I collect from Fantasy/Age of Sigmar is either out of production or now only available by direct order
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on September 22, 2019, 08:13:26 AM
They're slowly eliminating all Empire related items.  I just picked up from "Last Chance to Buy" a Warscyer Citadel.

Local shops around here aren't carrying much anymore of Empire, and one place told me it could only buy direct. :icon_sad:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Zygmund on September 22, 2019, 08:53:24 AM
All Free Peoples (Empire) and Disposessed (ordinary Dwarfs) have gone direct order only. So the backbone of Old World Good people (don't count the fickle Elves here).

Very interested to see if they will be replaced by new factions & new minis. The ordinary humans and Dwarfs are present in the newest books, so there's hope to see something for them. Funny names for sure. But will the Landsknecht/1500's look survive?

-Z
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on September 22, 2019, 09:02:27 AM
Can't imagine there not being humans.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on September 22, 2019, 12:16:41 PM
The new battle tome Cities of Sigmar is coming out I think end of month or October. Supposed to be combining the three factions (humans,dwarves,elves) into workable interactive armies/factions. I’m hoping they do as good a job as the gloomspite/night goblins but we’ll have to see. I heard somewhere the puffy sleeves are to survive. Not sure where.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on September 22, 2019, 01:59:28 PM
Oh my, they're going to combine humans, dwarfs, and elfs! :icon_eek:

Where does that leave dark elfs and chaos dwarfs?  Or least we forget, halflings!

(GP ... chaos dwarfs were long gone a good ways back.)

Yep, but halflings!

(GP ... halflings too.)

Yep, but dark elfs?

(GP .. their not technically good guys.)

True, perhaps combining humans, dwarfs, and elfs will provide folks with what players need to specialize in any of those.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on September 22, 2019, 02:38:03 PM
Oh my, they're going to combine humans, dwarfs, and elfs! :icon_eek:

Where does that leave dark elfs and chaos dwarfs?  Or least we forget, halflings!

(GP ... chaos dwarfs were long gone a good ways back.)

Yep, but halflings!

(GP ... halflings too.)

Yep, but dark elfs?

(GP .. their not technically good guys.)

True, perhaps combining humans, dwarfs, and elfs will provide folks with what players need to specialize in any of those.

Dark elves are now somewhat good guys, being mostly the navy of the free cities.. They'll be in the free city book
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Victor on September 22, 2019, 04:16:02 PM
Heresy ... all of it!  ::heretic::
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on September 22, 2019, 06:09:27 PM
You haven’t heard the best! Teclis is now a god of the Idoneth Deepkin - almost chaos elves who reep souls to survive. Dark and light elves are mostly allies under malekith, Tyrion is a god as well and has a faction but I can’t think of which one. All will be explained and condensed in the new CoS tome. Can’t wait.
It’s all change.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on September 22, 2019, 08:49:51 PM
Tyrion and Teclis are both said to jointly rule what's left of the High Elves, but that particular faction hasn't really been expanded yet.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Cèsar de Quart on September 23, 2019, 09:55:45 AM
You haven’t heard the best! Teclis is now a god of the Idoneth Deepkin - almost chaos elves who reep souls to survive. Dark and light elves are mostly allies under malekith, Tyrion is a god as well and has a faction but I can’t think of which one. All will be explained and condensed in the new CoS tome. Can’t wait.
It’s all change.

Tyrion is blind now, and he's a god of illumination for the Light Elves, a theoretical faction hinted at, but not revealed yet. One thing I was excited about was the "command squad" approach to generals they did with the Ossiarch mortarch. A single base with three or four minis, and you'd need to fight them all before fighting the big man.

I think it's a cool approach and it would fit the Empire very well. I'm actually making a "command squad" on a single base for my Blazing Sun Grandmaster (after realising that my Panther Grandmaster looks way cooler on his gryph-charger, and I needed something to make the GM big B stand out more...). But we're not getting it. And no new general either of any kind, even though it was kinda hinted at by the removal of the general on horseback. It was a good horsey. Sic transit.

I'm hating all of this. At least the guy on the cover is as Empire as it gets.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on September 23, 2019, 12:53:10 PM
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/09/22/coming-soon-middle-earth-mortal-realms-and-more/

Preorder 28th Septmber!!!

(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/AoSOpenDay-Jul20-CitiesOfSigmar6kbkth-1.jpg)

2 new startersets too aid it

(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/GwPreOrder-Sept22-Startcollectingboxes8e3jd.jpg)

and in lesser news updated orruks battletome, combining Bonesplitters and Ironjaws

(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/AoSOpenDay-Jul20-OrrukWarclansBattletome5ujchefgg-1.jpg)

and a compendium rule book for matched play
(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/GwPreOrder-Sept22-Gaming8vesc.jpg)
(also one for 40k)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on September 23, 2019, 01:56:56 PM
So ... looks like they are at least keeping the great sword kit for now.

I noticed that state troops, crossbows, handgunners, outriders, and pistoliers are all still available to order currently as well.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on September 23, 2019, 03:02:55 PM
This is awesome news!
Can’t wait.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Victor on September 23, 2019, 05:48:04 PM
So not a single new miniature? ..
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on September 23, 2019, 06:06:57 PM
inside info on the battletome!

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/09/23/faction-focus-cities-of-sigmargw-homepage-post-4/
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Zak on September 23, 2019, 06:23:20 PM
inside info on the battletome!

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/09/23/faction-focus-cities-of-sigmargw-homepage-post-4/

 :icon_evil:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on September 23, 2019, 06:44:35 PM
inside info on the battletome!

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/09/23/faction-focus-cities-of-sigmargw-homepage-post-4/

Again, love this. I can almost use everything I have. Not sure about the elf thing yet. To much focus on the dark elf faction which I loath. Happiness in wfb was seeing the dark elves utterly massacred without mercy.

The amount of conversion that can happen is unbelievable
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Victor on September 23, 2019, 07:05:25 PM
Building an army from this mess screams for a 'counts as' approach to get some visual coherence at least.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on September 23, 2019, 07:46:28 PM
So not a single new miniature? ...
Imagine if we were avid Bretonnian players. :icon_wink:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Victor on September 23, 2019, 08:19:26 PM
So not a single new miniature? ...
Imagine if we were avid Bretonnian players. :icon_wink:

I imagine I would be disappointed either way ..
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Zygmund on September 23, 2019, 09:21:40 PM
Not only not a single new miniatures for Freeguild, but Even The zoom picks on Freeguild soldiers are from the 7th ed armybook. Maybe no change is good news?

-Z
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: The Black Knight on September 24, 2019, 08:42:42 AM
(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/AoSCitiesFocus-Sep23-Battleline14ujsw.jpg)

So it looks like state troops, handgunners/crossbowmen, demis, flagellants, greatswords, outriders and the stank are safe for now. I've also seen the hellblaster in some of the online pictures, so I assume it is in the book too.

The general on foot was also spared but I can't seem to find the wizards?

To be honest at this point I am pretty shocked that any of those kits are still around. I am certain that GW will dump all of it, as soon as they produce a more "regular" human faction to go along the stormcasts.

Start collecting boxes are nice. The Greywater Fastness makes me want to revisit the Dwarf army idea I had a while ago. The only model I dislike is the wonky looking engineer, the runelord would be more prefferable but oh well.

I am wondering if we're gonna see a "Start Collecting" for the empire troops as well. Not holding my breath, but would be cool. What would you guys see in it? There seems to be 4 kits in each of these, all adding up to around 100 quid.



Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on September 24, 2019, 03:21:43 PM
I'm very interested to see the steam tank as a battleline (Troop equivalent) choice. Could lead to some real interesting look armies.

I think you'll be able to get a lot of uniformity with a good colour scheme. The Empire afterall at once point at dwarves, hobbits, ogres, humans and more all in one army list and people really liked it.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on September 24, 2019, 03:28:34 PM
I'm very interested to see the steam tank as a battleline (Troop equivalent) choice. Could lead to some real interesting look armies.

I think you'll be able to get a lot of uniformity with a good colour scheme. The Empire afterall at once point at dwarves, hobbits, ogres, humans and more all in one army list and people really liked it.

Love it👆
I have 2 steam tanks ready to go. This has me as excited as the gloomspite tome
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Victor on September 24, 2019, 06:50:56 PM
Quote
https://www.tga.community/forums/topic/22826-the-rumour-thread/?page=1315&tab=comments#comment-372483

This was posted at the War of Sigmar site in the commens about CoS,

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Norrikan: Supposedly Cities of Sigmar is a passion project of one of the designers who has pushed for this project for a good while now, while GW had very little interest in doing that.

Mind you, I've heard that second hand from one of the guys at a convention, so take that with a grain (or a pile) of salt.

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BramGaunt: I can pretty much confirm that. He basically wrote the thing himself and presented a 80% finished book to GW, all they did was edit and add some artwork.

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Norrikan:That aligns well with what I've heard, yeah. Apparently he also had to cash in some favors to get this approved?

It makes a little bit of sense, as CoS is the first battletome in 2.0 that didn't receive something new. Terrain / single character or unit.

If that is true, than I guess you can forget about ever getting a normal human faction for AoS, let alone any new such miniatures.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on September 24, 2019, 07:00:35 PM
Wow, if that is true, bada bing, bada boom, ... except ... didn't they come out with a bunch of new dwarf figures recently?  I don't know, not sure I'm convinced they'd give up on humans nor dwarfs nor elfs, it just doesn't seem to make sense.  They probably have other priorities, maybe there is even some sort of market study that claims humans, dwarfs and elfs wouldn't sell?  Bah, if there is.  Course with me, depends on the look and the price.  When I can get cool looking figures from Fireforge at a decent price, to make human armies for the Border Princes, lets hope GW does something cool with humans for W:AoS.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on September 24, 2019, 07:01:14 PM
Quote
https://www.tga.community/forums/topic/22826-the-rumour-thread/?page=1315&tab=comments#comment-372483

This was posted at the War of Sigmar site in the commens about CoS,

Quote
Norrikan: Supposedly Cities of Sigmar is a passion project of one of the designers who has pushed for this project for a good while now, while GW had very little interest in doing that.

Mind you, I've heard that second hand from one of the guys at a convention, so take that with a grain (or a pile) of salt.

Quote
BramGaunt: I can pretty much confirm that. He basically wrote the thing himself and presented a 80% finished book to GW, all they did was edit and add some artwork.

Quote
Norrikan:That aligns well with what I've heard, yeah. Apparently he also had to cash in some favors to get this approved?

It makes a little bit of sense, as CoS is the first battletome in 2.0 that didn't receive something new. Terrain / single character or unit.

If that is true, than I guess you can forget about ever getting a normal human faction for AoS, let alone any new such miniatures.


I have to say that’s a disappointing arrival at this decision
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Zak on September 24, 2019, 10:04:39 PM
it has everything to do with how it takes off, high sells than we will get more humans
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on September 24, 2019, 11:27:58 PM
Like Zak says. If it does well then GW will see the easy bucks to be made and dive in. I don't think they'd ever scrap humans entirely, but I wouldn't be surprised at all to see them as a low priority compared to pumping out the new 'image' of the universe.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on September 24, 2019, 11:34:55 PM
@zak and gankom : good point. No need for negativity.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on September 25, 2019, 03:11:52 AM
Positiveness, eh?  Hmmm ... Fireforge, here we go to the Border Princes! :icon_wink: :icon_lol: :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on September 25, 2019, 06:41:58 AM
I don't care how it came to be and to be honest I don't mind having no new models at this point in time also.. I don't have Aelves or Duardin so plenty "new" stuff to dive into to make a city army that I like!

As for the Designer being the one pushing it.. I thing he will have had help from Peachy as he actually made this army his own already with all the cool conversions and stuff and showed it numerous times on Twitches WarhammerTV.

Anyway I'm just glad I can finally take my Empire of the shelf and play with them as a full fledged army in AoS instead of having them as some half baked add-on
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Warlord on September 25, 2019, 03:21:34 PM
Not sure how no new miniatures will drive any sales to the faction though.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Cèsar de Quart on September 25, 2019, 09:52:13 PM
Not sure how no new miniatures will drive any sales to the faction though.

If the rules are good, they may see a surge in sales. Also, maybe us puffy hat lovers will create our own Free City and so and such.

Seraphon have kept on being fairly popular in tournaments and apparently kids like dinosaurs so...
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Zygmund on September 26, 2019, 08:34:15 AM
Nevermind if it's a one-man effort, nevermind if there are no new figures. The snippets of the rules actually seem interesting.

I've never played AoS, but with this kind of focus on human and human-allied armies, it might get interesting.

I've been thinking of putting some Empire troops on round bases, just for the looks (I have most units on squares already, so don't need more to play the game). Maybe I will play a round-base-game with them too?

-Z
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on September 28, 2019, 08:28:15 AM
Maybe I can make my son start a dwarf army and we can have Very civil war between a pair of cities like in the GOOD old PROPER days.

Alas, Fantasy hath faded
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on September 28, 2019, 12:09:15 PM
Looks like the Cities of Sigmar faction is up on the GW site for the surviving units. Not the battletome yet but it will give you an idea of what’s left. Pretty much all high elf product gone, lots of dark elf stuff is there and a lot of dwarf.

Seems Orruk warclans is in its faction as well. No traditional orks at all. Only savage. Am I missing something?
Again savage is my least favourite. Too bad
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on September 28, 2019, 02:08:34 PM
Ulthuan have sadly fallen...  :icon_frown:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on September 28, 2019, 08:41:13 PM
Ulthuan have sadly fallen...  :icon_frown:

More sad news...... no war altar or warrior priests or even the new Excelsior Warpriest made it to the CoS.
In the 14 years I’ve been in this hobby, active or just reading, I don’t remember being this disappointed. All the changes, I kept a positive attitude towards everything. Embracing the new system etc, etc.
The Warrior Priest with the horizontal greathammer was the first model I bought after the empire/ork starter kit. That ideal was the embodiment of this hobby. Favourite models, favourite fluff etc etc. When the transition to AoS was made, he was replaced by the Excelsior Warpriest. Still loved the new model and fluff and it meant a continuance.  Now no more. I’m not giving up but that sure pisses me off.
I’m hoping it was an oversite as the flagellants made it and still have the devoted keyword but no hero’s.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on September 28, 2019, 09:11:43 PM
I read the GW website page for fantasy background of some sort, and didn't enjoy the read.  It didn't seem to flow well, although that might be because the names are changing?  Maybe this stuff is going to fly well with new folks coming into the hobby that have little to know knowledge regarding the past history of the Warhammer Olde World, but with us veterans it all seems a bit much. It does seem as if the "history" is changing, and on the fly as real time goes past, yet for those of us who enjoyed the fantasy world of Warhammer gone past, not sure we're ever going to be interested in some of these changes.  Oh well, going to let it be, and enjoy the fantasy of the Olde World anyway.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on September 28, 2019, 09:46:42 PM
The new world does change and advance. That's what this big deal is with the Soul Wars and such. It's the next 'step'. They had the Realmgate wars, the Soul War's, now there's other stuff advancing as well.

Anecdotally, there's more people playing Age of Sigmar at the clubs around me then I ever saw playing Fantasy.

What we're you reading GP? They put out short stories on their website fairly frequently, but they're usually tied to an event or each other. So reading one might not give you much of an idea what's going on.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on September 29, 2019, 06:01:21 AM
I was perplexed that the High elves got totally tanked. I mean... Totally. All that is left is the phoenixes and the phoenix guard. And shadow warriors.

The White lions, despite being as new a kit as the PG are gone, and so are the chariots. And the skycutter. And the Dragon princes and the dragons. And the mages.
They were all great minis.
I most of all blame myself for not bying the dragon while I could. I never believed it would go this far.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on September 29, 2019, 07:22:43 AM
The new world does change and advance. That's what this big deal is with the Soul Wars and such. It's the next 'step'. They had the Realmgate wars, the Soul War's, now there's other stuff advancing as well.

Anecdotally, there's more people playing Age of Sigmar at the clubs around me then I ever saw playing Fantasy.
Congrats for those who enjoy W:AoS.  We had quite the crew of folks at a local store playing WFB during 6th and 7th edition.  Then it died with 8th, no one seemed to enjoy it, especially with the sudden need to have more figures for larger units.  Been in and out since, and rarely see anyone playing W:AoS.

Quote
What we're you reading GP? They put out short stories on their website fairly frequently, but they're usually tied to an event or each other. So reading one might not give you much of an idea what's going on.
This ... https://ageofsigmar.com/timeline/
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Victor on September 29, 2019, 09:21:41 AM
New warband for Warhammer Underworlds.

(http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Games-Workshop_Warhammer-Underworlds-Beastgrave-Grymwatch-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Sharkbelly on September 29, 2019, 11:12:32 AM
Nice! I have really liked all the undead warbands so far.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on September 29, 2019, 11:35:59 AM
With the reduction in human figures, they must be going to the undead! :icon_eek: :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on September 29, 2019, 01:24:32 PM
As for the loss of mainly the high elves and some others.. something must give way to make the new battletome to work othewise you have to many units going and that would make the battletome clunky.. with the new Idoneth Deepkin and Daughters of Kaine, I think the High Elves were the most obvious choice to cut out unfortunatly.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Cèsar de Quart on September 29, 2019, 02:25:20 PM
It's baffling that they axed most of the High Elves, since they were one of the most played armies in WHFB. I'm especially sad about the White Lions. Great kit, and fantastic for conversions.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on September 29, 2019, 02:35:41 PM
Indeed the loss of the White lions pains me. I was considering getting more of them for conversions but now all I can do is assemble a single regiment of 20 White lions and use them as palace guard in Kings of War. There is no game system outthere that have anything like the High elves today. Nothing.
They are an iconic fantasy race and they just axed them totally save the Phoenix guard for some VERY strange reason.

Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on September 29, 2019, 03:09:06 PM
As for the loss of mainly the high elves and some others.. something must give way to make the new battletome to work othewise you have to many units going and that would make the battletome clunky.. with the new Idoneth Deepkin and Daughters of Kaine, I think the High Elves were the most obvious choice to cut out unfortunatly.

Understood. It has to happen but the warpriest baffles me. He completely fit in as do the flagellants.
The high elf’s don’t fit in for sure but at least they can be ‘counts as ‘ - swordmasters can be greatswords, lion chariots - scourgerunner chariot. Unfortunately I really hate the dark elf look and even the unit names but that’s just me.
They did say this is the start, but I think it will take awhile before any changes hit. So far on azyr they haven’t done away with the old warscrolls  or factions yet.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: The Penguin on October 02, 2019, 04:06:41 PM
(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/AoSFreeCitiesArmies-Oct2-BenJ2uhce.jpg)

(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/AoSFreeCitiesArmies-Oct2-BenJ4ihdcw.jpg)

(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/AoSFreeCitiesArmies-Oct2-Ricky7ghs.jpg)

(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/AoSFreeCitiesArmies-Oct2-Ricky3hhs.jpg)

I rarely post here, but that made me feel dirty and sick.  :eusa_sick:
Am I the only one who has the feeling that what we see above are bastard abominable children of a good game and AoS?
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Zygmund on October 02, 2019, 05:16:40 PM
Kinda hard to say what is the topmost feeling: great idea, coherence, conversions and finish - or: what are these supposed to be, a 40K faction or a hybrid warband that can be played as what? A very WTF feeling.  :lol:

-Z
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on October 02, 2019, 06:23:49 PM
That steam tank with the "blimp" above it, it must not be metal for the "blimp" to carry it. :icon_wink:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Cèsar de Quart on October 02, 2019, 09:01:55 PM
I like these steampunk guys. They're actually close to my idea for the future of the Empire after the End Times.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Warlord on October 02, 2019, 10:51:05 PM
I was going to buy a skycutter at some point. Oh well.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on October 03, 2019, 08:35:57 AM
(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/AoSFreeCitiesArmies-Oct2-BenJ2uhce.jpg)

(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/AoSFreeCitiesArmies-Oct2-BenJ4ihdcw.jpg)

(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/AoSFreeCitiesArmies-Oct2-Ricky7ghs.jpg)

(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/AoSFreeCitiesArmies-Oct2-Ricky3hhs.jpg)

I rarely post here, but that made me feel dirty and sick.  :eusa_sick:
Am I the only one who has the feeling that what we see above are bastard abominable children of a good game and AoS?

These are not official models but conversions by someone that was inspired by a first look at the battletome of Free Cities and his own vision of stuff..
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on October 03, 2019, 03:48:53 PM
That steam tank with the "blimp" above it, it must not be metal for the "blimp" to carry it. :icon_wink:

They use magical alchemical mixtures for their usual sky boats. I don't see why It can't lift a steam tank. Could be worse. They could be riding robotic horses...

The article those are from is showcasing some peoples homebrew conversions to hype the Free Cities books. These other pictures are more traditional.

(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/AoSFreeCitiesArmies-Oct2-Peachy4hs.jpg)

(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/AoSFreeCitiesArmies-Oct2-Peachy5jks.jpg)

(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/AoSFreeCitiesArmies-Oct2-Peachy3uhs.jpg)

(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/AoSFreeCitiesArmies-Oct2-Peachy6ngs.jpg)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on October 03, 2019, 03:52:57 PM
There's also a neat article about building scenery for some of the Free Cities.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/10/03/building-the-cities-of-sigmargw-homepage-post-3/

(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/AoSFreeCitiesTerrain-Oct3-HammerhalArt3ujcts.jpg)

(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/AoSFreeCitiesTerrain-Oct3-HammerhalTerrain5uhgs.jpg)

(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/AoSFreeCitiesTerrain-Oct3-HammerhalTerrain4jjcgs.jpg)

(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/AoSFreeCitiesTerrain-Oct3-LivingCityTerrain2hhcdg.jpg)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on October 03, 2019, 03:54:29 PM
Seems like a total branch away from the concept of fantasy having ties to the real world.  Creative, yet oh well, not surprising. :icon_neutral:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on October 03, 2019, 04:25:36 PM
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Seems like a total branch away from the concept of fantasy having ties to the real world.

Sorry GP, but you missed that boat several years ago now. This is expanding their current world, not tying back into a real world one. It's not really a new thing. It's been like that since the start of AoS.

BUT there's lots of room to make your own stuff and give it more real world roots. Make a free city and base it on Altdorf or medieval Paris or something. Lots of possibilities to play with.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on October 03, 2019, 07:10:16 PM
Nope, didn't miss it, still seeing it for what it is.  Oh, and is there a map where the supposed free city can be placed? :icon_wink:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Warlord on October 03, 2019, 09:25:31 PM
I kinda like the imagery they are presenting though. :ph34r:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Cèsar de Quart on October 03, 2019, 09:44:53 PM
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Seems like a total branch away from the concept of fantasy having ties to the real world.

Sorry GP, but you missed that boat several years ago now. This is expanding their current world, not tying back into a real world one. It's not really a new thing. It's been like that since the start of AoS.

BUT there's lots of room to make your own stuff and give it more real world roots. Make a free city and base it on Altdorf or medieval Paris or something. Lots of possibilities to play with.

True, and exciting, but every time I try and create a Free City, I bump into the same problem: the world is too vague, too wide and too inconcrete, the rules are very wibly-wobly and the amount of crazy stuff in it is too bizarre.

I mean, the more central to the Realmdisk, the less weird and "thematic" the place is, ok, neat, I can see that. Now, why is Hammerhal in the middle of a lava field? Was't it supposed to be inside a centric area where things are mostly normal?

Take Shyish. A Realm where the souls of the dead go. But there's living people also, living their lives. I guess that they never "really" die, because they live in the afterlife. Having people living in the Afterlife kinda takes the mystery away from it, doesn't it? As a fantasy concept, Shyish is a dead end. It doesn't add anything interesting and it takes away too much.

Take Ghur, which, to me, is idiotic. Everything is prey and predator, even the rocks and mountains. What? How does this work? Rock is rock. Plate tecnonics gone wild? Ok, I can believe that, but if tectonics move at a visible rate, the whole Realm is basically gravel then. No trees, no soil, and certainly no animals. Now, the flying rocks of Ghyran and Chamon are already a stretch for me, but... the whole realm moves and shifts? The sun moves randomly across the sky? Ghur is the Realm of Beasts, not Monty Python Flying Circus.

The idea that every Wind of Magic coalesced into a world of its can be compelling. Had they sticked to their initial concept of "the edges of the Realm are where the weird things happen", then it would have been interesting. Shyish, for example, culd have a relatively normal, only marginally purplish center patch, and then it would get gloomier and more hellish as you get away from the center, maybe crossing a series of concentric rivers (come on, GW, you had it right there!) which are increasingly difficult to cross until the last one is a river of literal souls under a dead sun and can only be crossed with the help of a Charon like character, and there's where the dead people go... but the first pic we got from Shyish was already a hellish landscape of purple sand and skulls and rivers of souls and blood-red moons...

They're not making a consistent world. Maybe one day the Mortal Realms will be a sprawling, complex world of cool concepts and cohesive ideas, but now they're a mess.

And I know there's novels, but I've got no time to read the novels. The army books should suffice, and contain enough information to make a clear picture of the world at hand in your head. When I bought my first bit of Warhammer, the famous Big Red Book, I devoured the lore section, and I really didn't need more. Just looking at this map I'm getting this fuzzy feeling...

(http://pub.goha.ru/games/warhammer/zones/old-world-map.jpg)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on October 04, 2019, 12:11:44 AM
Oh my, its a map! Imagine that. :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Cèsar de Quart on October 04, 2019, 07:46:32 AM
To be honest, AoS has maps, they're just a bit bizarre and not very useful, because they look like a randomly generated landmass with generic fantasy toponymy splattered on it.

But even that could be compelling if correctly thought out. But the sheer size and breath of the Realms make worldbuilding almost impossible, because of the lack of clear landmarks.

In a map of the 40k Galaxy (an example of what AoS was going for), there's tens of names planets and features, and the rest is void so that the player can fill it in. In AoS, the lack of maps of the Realms make this difficult, while the few maps we have show only a very small area without many recognisable landmarks.

Places, landmarks, toponyms of renown exist in WHFB because they were ON MAPS, as simple as that. No amount of AoS novels will make the Griffin's Eyre or the Godsclaw iconic. Maps and repetition will drill them into your brains, but not novels. Middenheim, Magritta, Karak-Kadrin and Nuln all began as names on a map, and became household names just by virtue of being there, on the map, every time. Even places which were never expanded on much, if at all, like Wurtbad, like Zhufbar, like Nagashizzar, like Copher and Sudenburg, were familiar to our eyes because we've been seeing them on maps for 20 years now.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DfEYvvbUYAIa0CR.jpg)

I'm sure Cerbella Island could have a rich history, but we don't know. We lack the context and we don't even know if it's a relevant place, because it's just on one map.

AoS, definitely, needs clever maps.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on October 04, 2019, 08:50:24 AM
Well, there's a map.  One heck of a world, a swirling mass of curvy islands and curvy waterways.  I see some dwarf places? If "karak" is still being used by them.  And I see some ruins, even a beastmen's vale.  Ok, could be an interesting place.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on October 04, 2019, 10:14:52 AM
review of the battletome by Mengel

http://www.mengelminiatures.com/2019/10/review-cities-of-sigmar.html#more
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Cèsar de Quart on October 04, 2019, 10:19:01 AM
Here's more maps. The names are generally uninspired, but it's better than nothing.

Shyish.

(https://i.imgur.com/G9IibmP.jpg)

And Aqshy.

(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/AoSStartHere-May12-Map5wv.jpg)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on October 04, 2019, 04:16:24 PM
But your saying the old maps were special because you saw them repeatedly for 20 years, and comparing them to maps that have only been out a handful of years. Doesn't that seem like an unfair comparison?

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To be honest, AoS has maps, they're just a bit bizarre and not very useful, because they look like a randomly generated landmass with generic fantasy toponymy splattered on it.

See, I like getting so many different perspectives on this. This for example is the opposite of the problem I had with the Old World Map. I was always bothered by the way it looked like a lightly altered real world map with some extra stuff crammed into it. Just like Westeros and Game of thrones. For a fantasy world, I really have no problem with them trying to make new looking maps, and new looking landscapes.

Totally separate, but I never found most of the names in the old world that original either. Most of it was just pulled from real world history or based on other, similar fantasy.

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Take Shyish. A Realm where the souls of the dead go. But there's living people also, living their lives. I guess that they never "really" die, because they live in the afterlife. Having people living in the Afterlife kinda takes the mystery away from it, doesn't it? As a fantasy concept, Shyish is a dead end. It doesn't add anything interesting and it takes away too much.

I'm not as familiar with the other realms, but a big part of Shyish is that different parts of it correspond to different afterlife's, or totally normal but dark influenced places. So some people might scratch out a living in the literal bones of an afterlife, and other people might live next door to a ghost cursed realm. I find it to be a fascinating take on it. How does a community life in the bones of their ancestors? If they know what's going to happen. Clearly people die and move on because we've seen depictions of a number of 'hellish' after lives, as well as a handful of mentions of more pleasant ones. (Usually before they get messed up by Nagash.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on October 04, 2019, 04:19:47 PM
Agree👆
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on October 04, 2019, 04:24:38 PM
review of the battletome by Mengel

http://www.mengelminiatures.com/2019/10/review-cities-of-sigmar.html#more

I found this to be very interesting, thanks for posting it up!
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Cèsar de Quart on October 05, 2019, 10:17:30 AM
But your saying the old maps were special because you saw them repeatedly for 20 years, and comparing them to maps that have only been out a handful of years. Doesn't that seem like an unfair comparison?

Sure, you're right, but when they first presented the Realms they didn't give us these maps, they gave us other maps (if they gave us any). Now they give us these maps, but I've got no hold on them yet. Who know what maps will they give us in the future. Will they still show the Griffin's Eyrie? Is this place relevant or important to the people there somehow?

Given that consistency and grip are some of the most important elements of worldbuilding, it's weird that they didn't start by giving us maps to the central patches of the first Realms they visited right away, and built on them to have a shared anchor on their worlds. They missed the chance to hook us up on familiar geography. It's almost like... they had no idea what they were doing.

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See, I like getting so many different perspectives on this. This for example is the opposite of the problem I had with the Old World Map. I was always bothered by the way it looked like a lightly altered real world map with some extra stuff crammed into it. Just like Westeros and Game of thrones. For a fantasy world, I really have no problem with them trying to make new looking maps, and new looking landscapes.

Totally separate, but I never found most of the names in the old world that original either. Most of it was just pulled from real world history or based on other, similar fantasy.

When I say "original" I don't mean "new", my mistake in using the wrong word. There's value in creating a world designed to make you instantly recognise a corner of its world, to make you feel like you belong. After all, people think it's unoriginal when the map is almost Europe, but not when the clothing style, armor and weapons are all exactly European and Medieval. Why? It's essentially the same. I see Hammerhal's domes and golden roofs and all its weird architecture and I feel like that's an alien city, not a place I can relate to. Again, not really a problem, but there's been little effort in making the Cities feel like home (for now).

What AoS does is forego the familiarity of the Old World (not because of its antiquity, but because of its closeness to the real world) and substitute it with bizarre concepts and mechanics, a thousand and one currencies and new valuable materials (incurring in the Pokemon world problem of "are there still normal animals, and if so, where are they?"), strange architecture and art, and generic English placenames like Flamescar Plateau (ugh), or fantasy names which show no real consistent language origin or even internal consistency. Was it so difficult to make up three sets of preffixes and suffixes to represent three major languages, and then make up names with them? You've got Cotha, Vitrolia and Bataar. Yeah, these names tell me nothing of the relation these landmasses have among them or the culture which habitated them. Especially when the theme of the Realms is "they were once dominated by great empires which have now fallen". If more of their world was named... names, instead of just "X cool adjective + Y cool geographic term", maybe they could have more character. One Empire founded Sazar, Sarramir and Sakortha, (begin wiht Sa-, like a reverse -Stan) another one founded Larskto, Kratz and Bormro (only As and Os, consonant clusters), another one created the provinces of Ker'gyr, Mir'yonith and Lygash (glottal stops and gutural consonants). I don't know, consistency.

But the Old World and the Realms are very different beasts. The OW pulled on your sense of familiarity. When you draw parallels and push metaphores, a similar name is a reference, and if the system makes sense, it's super useful at conveying information quickly. Ok. It would be very strange if you saw a city called Volgagrad in Tilea, or a city called Napoleti in Bretonnia, but that's not what happened. The Old World, thanks to its constant callbacks to the real world, was not only familiar, but consistent.

You could tell by seeing Valmir von Raukov's name that he was part of a frontier culture, hybrid of the Empire and Kislev, and by his Vlad Tepes inspired hat and moustache, that he was a ruthless general who was ready to fight the invaders at all costs. Original? No, but very efficient.

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I'm not as familiar with the other realms, but a big part of Shyish is that different parts of it correspond to different afterlife's, or totally normal but dark influenced places. So some people might scratch out a living in the literal bones of an afterlife, and other people might live next door to a ghost cursed realm. I find it to be a fascinating take on it. How does a community life in the bones of their ancestors? If they know what's going to happen. Clearly people die and move on because we've seen depictions of a number of 'hellish' after lives, as well as a handful of mentions of more pleasant ones. (Usually before they get messed up by Nagash.

And that may be an interesting concept on its own, but in the wider world of AoS, it just raises way more questions than it answers. It makes Shyish an excessively convoluted place where you need to do all sorts of narrative gymnastics to justify people living there, their culture an psyche. After all, some of these people travel, and some of them go to other Realms and tell of the Underworlds, and suddenly no one in the Realms is us. No one! Everyone is 100% sure that there's life after deaht. The whole thousands of millions of people in the Realms have solved one of the most pressing questions we, as a species, have ever asked. They, therefore, are not us anymore. This poses very transcendental questions about mortality, the meaning or futility of life, the sense of it all, which I see the writers at GW as WOEFULLY uncapable of answering in a satisfactory way.

The novelists may do a good job, but the fluff writers on the battletomes? Oh no.

Let me reiterate: I really like much of the AoS setting, it's wide, exciting and new, and it's got tons of possibilities, but so far, it's got plenty of problems too. Shortcoming in basic worldbuilding. Sometimes a cool concept is introduced without it making much sense. Sometimes an interesting idea is crapped on by some commitee deciding on a cool name tested on control groups. The NECROQUAKE. Oh my God. So Sunday afternoon cartoony.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Zygmund on October 05, 2019, 12:07:25 PM
Ah, Cèsar, I completely agree with you!

But the world has changed. Consistent world-building is so 70's. Nowadays the conceptual relations are genre-crossing and visually immediate. No-one is interested in languages and maps (although you might get a job if you master them).

Sadly.

Being old is not about becoming crippled, it's about shouting out the truth and nobody listens. The feeling of days gone by...

-Z
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on October 05, 2019, 08:00:25 PM
Dumb question #38 : I have azyr. Updated to show CoS warscrolls but it does not show the Cities faction. Still all the old ones. Devoted, dispossessed, free peoples etc. I was thinking there would be a Cities faction and the available units when making a list. I can get Cities on the warscroll part. Can you just choose a city and have the units available for them or do you have to buy the online battletome?
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Cèsar de Quart on October 05, 2019, 08:51:21 PM
Ah, Cèsar, I completely agree with you!

But the world has changed. Consistent world-building is so 70's. Nowadays the conceptual relations are genre-crossing and visually immediate. No-one is interested in languages and maps (although you might get a job if you master them).

Sadly.

Being old is not about becoming crippled, it's about shouting out the truth and nobody listens. The feeling of days gone by...

-Z

Yep, it seems to be that way... although I've been seeing a lot of buzz about worldbuilding on the Internet lately. Criticism of fantasy and sci-fi comes down to worldbuilding very often. I think there's still hope.

AoS will settle down. After all, remember the Bretonnian King Charles de la Tete d'Or?
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Zygmund on October 05, 2019, 09:28:14 PM
... although I've been seeing a lot of buzz about worldbuilding on the Internet lately. Criticism of fantasy and sci-fi comes down to worldbuilding very often. I think there's still hope.

Where? I remember worldbuilding and conlangs were a thing like 20 years ago. There's that language (Dothraki?) in GoT that actually has been created, or at least polished, by a linguist. But where else?

I agree criticism of fiction usually relates to worldbuilding. But people tend to enjoy settings with lax worldbuilding too, so the incentive to spend time on it just isn't there. Especially in games, the gaming aspects and 'fun' aspects (whatever they are) seem to be much more important than the consistency of the setting.

-Z
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: S.O.F on October 06, 2019, 12:06:06 AM
I agree criticism of fiction usually relates to worldbuilding. But people tend to enjoy settings with lax worldbuilding too, so the incentive to spend time on it just isn't there. Especially in games, the gaming aspects and 'fun' aspects (whatever they are) seem to be much more important than the consistency of the setting.

-Z

I think that all depend on who consumes it. I think there is the portion of the market that always wants the grounded believable end, which I will admit is most likely niche, but the other part that always wants crazy off the walls,

Or more importantly..... (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt26rKhyksQ)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on October 06, 2019, 12:15:25 PM
Dumb question #38 : I have azyr. Updated to show CoS warscrolls but it does not show the Cities faction. Still all the old ones. Devoted, dispossessed, free peoples etc. I was thinking there would be a Cities faction and the available units when making a list. I can get Cities on the warscroll part. Can you just choose a city and have the units available for them or do you have to buy the online battletome?

Never mind the above. Update came last night. Also purchased online codex and have started with the Graywater Fastness city which allows 2 steam tanks (!). One with commander and leader choice. Still miss the lack of warrior priest / altar but still have the option for a devoted army so will print off the warscrolls since I really don’t play competitively anymore. Will do that for greenskins (old ork) as they have been written out as well except the savage orks.



Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Cèsar de Quart on October 06, 2019, 12:19:08 PM
... although I've been seeing a lot of buzz about worldbuilding on the Internet lately. Criticism of fantasy and sci-fi comes down to worldbuilding very often. I think there's still hope.

Where? I remember worldbuilding and conlangs were a thing like 20 years ago. There's that language (Dothraki?) in GoT that actually has been created, or at least polished, by a linguist. But where else?

I agree criticism of fiction usually relates to worldbuilding. But people tend to enjoy settings with lax worldbuilding too, so the incentive to spend time on it just isn't there. Especially in games, the gaming aspects and 'fun' aspects (whatever they are) seem to be much more important than the consistency of the setting.

-Z

It all comes down to what bubble one lives in, I guess. My youtube news always have a healthy amount of worlbduiling videos and essays. There's been buzz about it on Avatar (the TV show, the Airbender stuff), the Expanse and their careful and thoughful recreation of "Belter society" and creolle language, Game of Thrones (which had not one, but two conlangs)...

I wasn't alive during the 70's, so I don't know if there's more worldbuilding effort now than before, but there's definitely more now than in the early 2000s.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Zygmund on October 06, 2019, 05:11:21 PM
Good to hear! My conworld bubble sort of withered away around 2010.

The Expanse was/is tempting, but I haven't had the time to really start watching.

-Z
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Warlord on October 07, 2019, 05:56:12 AM
I looked up how to draw fantasy maps on youtube a while back, and that led to suggestions on videos about worldbuilding, and shortcomings of current fantasy series worldbuilding. Its out there.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: KTG17 on October 07, 2019, 12:47:08 PM
I am confused on what GW is doing with Sigmar. I see on their site they have developed the Free Cities and I have to be honest the art is amazing, but I don't understand why are they doing this. Are they just trying to get rid of old stock? Or keep these models around? They just killed off a bunch of Empire models. It sort of seems like a mess although I haven't read a single book to know if it all makes sense.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on October 07, 2019, 01:02:55 PM
Yep, they've combined humans, dwarfs, darkelfs (?), and thrown in a sisters army and a couple of others, while getting rid of high elfs, woods elfs, and of course Brets.  I noticed the wizard kit is back though.  And when I get a little extra cash, planning to pick up some pistolier boxes just in case.  The whole W:AoS thing is shifting and changing, and can't imagine it won't continue to do this.

By the way, regarding dark elfs, an interesting idea ... in 40K the Eldar split in the pre-history of the Eldar, reverting back to having two elf factions ... Eldar and Dark Eldar ... and GW has recently put out a mixed set on this topic for 40K.  So I suppsoe it isn't a surprise that the high elfs have been eliminated.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Cèsar de Quart on October 07, 2019, 01:58:04 PM
I am confused on what GW is doing with Sigmar. I see on their site they have developed the Free Cities and I have to be honest the art is amazing, but I don't understand why are they doing this. Are they just trying to get rid of old stock? Or keep these models around? They just killed off a bunch of Empire models. It sort of seems like a mess although I haven't read a single book to know if it all makes sense.

In TGA there's plenty of buzz about that. Is this an indication that the Cities of Sigmar have become a solid faction and will recieve some love in the future, or is it a passion project of some guy within the studio and a way for GW to clear stocks?

It really makes no sense. This was their chance to produce a hero miniature with the style of the old Empire, a new general or commander with cool dress up options, a lifeline to us, the old grognards of the Old World.

But no... Very confusing. The only hope I have is that the Cities of Sigmar rules are very well recieved, the army is used extensively on tournaments and seen prominently on Instagram and Facebook posts... but of course, if no new miniatures are released, many of the newer players will not jump on the bandwagon...
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on October 07, 2019, 02:18:29 PM
New figures that work with the old could have players from across W:AoS, WFB, or both, and all the rest, buying.  However, if they just produce stuff that is brand new to W:AoS, then they could miss out on some sales.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on October 13, 2019, 01:40:47 PM
They are changing 40K to slowly. But it is done in a much more careful and much more believeable way.

I am not really that hyped on this psychic awakening, since that is supposed to mean DOOOM! in all the earlier fluff. But now it is coming and everyone will be involved somehow.

But I hope it does not mean that all that is familiar is removed. And in the end, I think that will not be the case. GW shock the galaxy to the core with the great rift through it. Also, they are finally giving us true scale marines and yes, they probably needed some change. After all, the Marines are the flagships.

We shall see what they do to the Guard, however. The Guard REALLY need new miniatures. Really need them. They clearly seem to have decided that the basic concept of the Eldar is still good so they work around it creating new cool stuff. But they really need to give us a new baseline of guards, and clearly it is the Cadians that will remain that one. And the Guard is a popular army, and people love their mighty backward looking tanks. They created new characters for it in the shape of for example Severina Raine so the concept of the poor bloody infantry is something they seem to understand have a strong pull.
If you want to be over the top superhumans, the Adeptus Astares are where you go. If you want a more recognizeable feeling you go for the Guard. And soon you can focus on the more fanatically zealot side via the Sisters of Battle.

If you want something more like a modern style army with discipline etc you have the Tau giving you decent humanoid elite soldiers. You even have the option of saying they are humans loyal to Tau. Firepower first concern, overlapping fields of fire, breach and clear etc. All you may want if you are into a futuristic versions of modern soldiers.

The list goes on and on. 40K have managed to find something that can appeal to everyone and it does not really conflict that much. You have it all from magic, psyker dominated armies to high tech futuristic stuff that do not care about psychics and everything in between.


Somehow I think they wanted to get away from the "real world" to avoid ANY potential PC issues and to be able to copyright everything.

But for some reason GW do not want normal people to have any real place in AoS. They went for the He-Man idea all the way.

Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Cèsar de Quart on October 13, 2019, 05:00:01 PM
We shall see what they do to the Guard, however. The Guard REALLY need new miniatures. Really need them.

SIR YES SIR
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on October 14, 2019, 05:09:27 PM
Gotta like this guy! (GP exempt 😸) He is going into my army without a doubt. Even though a knight questor, re rings of warrior priest

(https://artobansghost.files.wordpress.com/2019/10/img_0515.jpg)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on October 14, 2019, 06:01:31 PM
A black Sigmar is sort of like a black Claus, although I like it.  Didn't it come from a boxed board game or some such? Probably hard to come by, unless I look on ebay.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Cèsar de Quart on October 14, 2019, 06:11:40 PM
Slap in the face. Come on, GW, you got no new Freeguild characters but you make one bland Stormcast guy? Really? Now I'm disgusted.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on October 14, 2019, 07:01:15 PM
new hero revealed for the Ossiarch Bonereapers
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/10/14/a-hat-worthy-of-nagash-new-hero-revealedgw-homepage-post-2/

(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/OBR-Hero-Oct14-MainImage8gsdfg.jpg)

Now I was somewhat digging the others of the army (as one of the few here), but this chap makes me seriously doubt that..
This one gives me the feel that the engineer on robo horse gave me for the Empire back then
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on October 14, 2019, 07:04:43 PM
A black Sigmar is sort of like a black Claus, although I like it.  Didn't it come from a boxed board game or some such? Probably hard to come by, unless I look on ebay.
I'll be honest, I like it and I like that we see some different skin tones every now and then. Sigmar takes souls from thousands of nations, across multiple different dimensions and hundreds of thousands of years or more, if they were all pasty white people it would be down right weird.

I am far less interested in the new Ossiarch wizard dude. I don't think I've liked anything from that range yet.

Slap in the face. Come on, GW, you got no new Freeguild characters but you make one bland Stormcast guy? Really? Now I'm disgusted.

I suspect this is just the new years special anniversary model. Like they've had previous. If that's the case its always a stormcast and space marine.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on October 14, 2019, 10:28:09 PM
Slap in the face. Come on, GW, you got no new Freeguild characters but you make one bland Stormcast guy? Really? Now I'm disgusted.

Not a guy and not bland at all. It is a P(O)C transgender lesbian....And do not denigrate Stormcasts! They are called Stormcasts, because they are born from climate change!
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Rowsdower on October 14, 2019, 10:44:41 PM
I like the skeleton pope
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on October 14, 2019, 10:46:25 PM
Necrophiliac....
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on October 14, 2019, 10:50:01 PM
 :icon_eek: Looks like another Necron to me.  The walking machine reminds me of one of those hover craft machines.

I must be in ... a 40K thread!











 :engel:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Victor on October 15, 2019, 05:45:09 PM
Wow. Skeleton-bishop on walking skeleton-chicken-leg-throne. This looks ridiculous and awful ...

Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Cèsar de Quart on October 16, 2019, 10:55:23 AM
Wow. Skeleton-bishop on walking skeleton-chicken-leg-throne. This looks ridiculous and awful ...

I like the concept of the miniature. I dislike the chair, but the pose is cool. I'd like to see a necromancer sitting down on an undead chair like that.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on October 16, 2019, 11:02:26 AM
Strangely, I get a tomb kings vibe from this. When I first saw him I was aghast but he is growing on me
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Warlord on October 16, 2019, 12:01:32 PM
I like the sitting cross leg pose.
I like the idea of being on a walker.

I hate the whole range of exoskeleton tyranid crap.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on October 16, 2019, 12:16:57 PM
Yep, it's the birth place of Necrons and Tyranids.  Ta da.  And it doesn't look good.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Guildenstern on October 16, 2019, 08:13:04 PM
It reminds me of some Slann Priests
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on October 17, 2019, 03:44:01 AM
I actually thought of the Slann connection as well. The wizards pose I really like, I'm not a big fan of the weird walking chair. I could be really interested in some kind of flying bone chair. Maybe removing the legs and flattening the bottom.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Cèsar de Quart on October 17, 2019, 10:04:12 AM
I'm thinking that a conversion between this and the spirit corpse cart is a neat idea. Some greenstuff to cover up the bones, a necromancer head instead of the Pope hat, and some necromancer throne bits instead of the walking bone, and you've got yourself a very cool model.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Zygmund on October 17, 2019, 02:28:11 PM
The sitting figure is nice. The walking skeleton automaton not so.

-Z
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Rowsdower on October 18, 2019, 03:16:34 AM
Just a thought. Someone could make a Skeletor themed army with these new kits
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Cèsar de Quart on October 18, 2019, 12:40:24 PM
Just a thought. Someone could make a Skeletor themed army with these new kits

The Skeletor picture was probably up on the wall at GW design studio. It's a lovably goofy army, I think. Not what I would have designed, but I appreciate how slef-humorous they are.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Zak on October 18, 2019, 11:33:04 PM
Its so awful I want to paint it lol  :-P
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on October 19, 2019, 04:18:42 AM
I got better uses of my painting time ... like 6 mounted crossbows that still need to be finished. :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on October 19, 2019, 11:42:35 AM
I got better uses of my painting time ... like 6 mounted crossbows that still need to be finished. :icon_lol:

What’s this👆?
I’m beginning to believe those 6 mounted crossbow men have been made etherial. Perhaps by the guy in the chair?
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Zak on October 19, 2019, 12:33:15 PM
I got better uses of my painting time ... like 6 mounted crossbows that still need to be finished. :icon_lol:


Oh im not purchasing the abomination just want to paint it...Now if someone wants to buy it for me …..lol  :-P
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on October 19, 2019, 12:42:40 PM
If I wanted GW to succeed with the Pope Walker, then I'd buy ya one, but they ain't getting any of my money for that one.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Zak on October 19, 2019, 02:52:59 PM
If I wanted GW to succeed with the Pope Walker, then I'd buy ya one, but they ain't getting any of my money for that one.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA  :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on October 19, 2019, 05:09:30 PM
Bit of a lore dump on our new skelly people.

Quote
Nagash has a plan. This plan needs a deathless army or two to accomplish it. To build a deathless army, The Supreme Lord of the Undead needs some raw materials – which is where the tithe comes in. As we draw closer to the release of the Mortal Realms’ latest army, we’re taking a close look at the fascinating lore of the Ossiarch Bonereapers.
The Basics
The Ossiarch Bonereapers are Nagash’s new vision for the Mortal Realms. Unlike the Nighthaunt or Flesh-eater Courts, they aren’t risen revenants or deluded cannibals, but a brand-new form of unlife, purpose-built for war. Only the Mortarch Katakros and his chief lieutenant, Arch-Kavalos Zandtos, possess true memories of their time among the living, with the remainder of the Ossiarch legions consisting of consciousness formed from combinations of dozens or even hundreds of mortal souls. These are then used to animate immortal, inviolable and horribly strong bodies constructed from bone.
The Ossiarchs are Nagash’s future vision for the Mortal Realms. He intends to create a perfect, endless army spanning every landmass, with everywhere from Azyr to Aqshy rendered into a cold, unfeeling metropolis known as the Necrotopia.
Which is where the tithe comes in.
(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/AoSTitheLore-Oct19-Opener7hxgs.jpg)

Quote
The Tithe of Bone
The Ossiarch Bonereapers already possess massive armies, having carefully waited out the apocalyptic devastation of the Age of Chaos. However, Nagash’s ambitions of conquering the Mortal Realms require even more warriors, and for that, he needs a lot of bone.
Sure, he could just send his armies out to slaughter every living thing they found, but that would be unsustainable, not to mention pretty messy! Instead, the Ossiarch Bonereapers first seek the most deadly of weapons to accomplish their goals – diplomacy.

(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/AoSTitheLore-Oct19-Necropolis1hce.jpg)

Quote
The Tithe Begins
The Ossiarch legions are no mindless automata, but intelligent, independently minded and cunning. While driven by the purpose for which they were designed, high-ranking Ossiarchs, like those of the Mortisan caste, are capable negotiators, schemers and manipulators, bringing empires to their knees by word and contract as well as fire and sword.
Upon finding a settlement of the living, the Mortisans will present an offer – tithe your bones, or face annihilation. Where the offerings come from matters not to the Ossiarchs – some civilisations may dredge their graveyards for fitting tithe, while others may choose to take the limbs of their citizens in order to supplement a dangerously meagre collection of remains.
(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/AoSTitheLore-Oct19-ArmyRanked2uha.jpg)
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The Cycle Continues
As the years pass, the Ossiarchs will return time and time again to civilisations they tithe from. Sometimes, vast spans of time may pass before they come again, as Ossiarchs that made deals centuries ago come asking for bone in ancient dialects now unfamiliar to a land’s inhabitants.
Generally speaking, the tithe is cruel, but sustainable – the Ossiarchs wish no more to slaughter wantonly than a farmer wishes to slay his cattle. However, capricious commanders of the Stalliarch Lords are known to issue impossible terms to empires they wish to destroy, such as requiring exact records of the condition of every bone kept in the city – including those currently residing within its citizens.

Forged of Bone
The Mortisan’s use of bone is not accidental – indeed, the properties of the matter used to create an Ossiarch Bonereaper shape both their character and their abilities. The Petrifex Elite are forged from fossils, making them ponderous, single-minded and nigh-indestructible. The Null Myriad are forged from those skeletons used in the construction of the Black Pyramid, giving them a terrifying resilience against magic, and a quiet, unnerving pride that unsettles even the champions of Chaos.
Perhaps the most terrifying are the Ivory Host. Outwardly magnificent and noble in aspect, these warriors hide a dark secret – forged from bestial bone, they give in to a horrific animal rage in battle, clawing and hacking at their enemies as the bestial energies within their bodies take over.

(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/AoSTitheLore-Oct19-OssiarchConquest4ujcs.jpg)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Victor on October 19, 2019, 05:36:49 PM
Rubbish.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on October 19, 2019, 07:01:18 PM
Pre-Necrons ... building semi-zombies that one day will rebel against the skeletons as they birth into the madness that is Tyranid.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: The Penguin on October 19, 2019, 07:07:20 PM
Sigmar, protect us.....  :ph34r:
(The good old invisible one, please!)

On a serious note, are people really into that kind of lore and stuff? I must be getting old and grumpy (and dwarfish), but the further they move from "real life", and the more specific they become about their factions, the more alien and nonsensical it all gets. Seriously? An undead army collecting bones? An entire faction? That looks more like an unimaginative fluff for someones VC army, rather than something a company which once wrote great stories could come up with. Shame on you, GW. SHAME!  :closed-eyes:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on October 19, 2019, 07:30:49 PM
Sigmar, protect us.....  :ph34r:
(The good old invisible one, please!)

On a serious note, are people really into that kind of lore and stuff? I must be getting old and grumpy (and dwarfish), but the further they move from "real life", and the more specific they become about their factions, the more alien and nonsensical it all gets. Seriously? An undead army collecting bones? An entire faction? That looks more like an unimaginative fluff for someones VC army, rather than something a company which once wrote great stories could come up with. Shame on you, GW. SHAME!  :closed-eyes:

For what little anecdotes are worth, my area is pretty strongly into AoS and I'd say people are pretty lukewarm on this faction. People freaking love just about all the other ones. (Eyeless elves and steampunk dwarves are particularly popular. Nighthaunt ghosties are perhaps the most popular of the new factions.) This one has been getting almost universally meh reception from even the most die hard.

I'm just not hooked on this factions lore myself. I can find something to like about all the others, even if its just minor details, but this one just has nothing to interest me. One of my buddies who's sticking with 8th is somewhat interested in picking up some pieces to convert into Tomb Kings of various flavours, but that's the most interest I've seen from my circle.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on October 19, 2019, 07:36:49 PM
Ah!  Converting into Tomb Kings could be perhaps the best idea.

Not that I'll suddenly start buying these. :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Rowsdower on October 20, 2019, 04:27:10 AM
The arch of their gateway is a giant crotch
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: The Penguin on October 20, 2019, 06:38:36 AM
For what little anecdotes are worth, my area is pretty strongly into AoS and I'd say people are pretty lukewarm on this faction. People freaking love just about all the other ones. (Eyeless elves and steampunk dwarves are particularly popular. Nighthaunt ghosties are perhaps the most popular of the new factions.) This one has been getting almost universally meh reception from even the most die hard.

I'm just not hooked on this factions lore myself. I can find something to like about all the others, even if its just minor details, but this one just has nothing to interest me. One of my buddies who's sticking with 8th is somewhat interested in picking up some pieces to convert into Tomb Kings of various flavours, but that's the most interest I've seen from my circle.

Yes, indeed. Converting some bits into TK might be the only use for them. At least for me.
I guess my main problem with new AoS factions is that they leave little to imagination. Their looks, lore, etc. are too specific to make anything unique. And the entire world is so vague, that even when you actually try to do something you find that you have hard time pinpointing where they may live, how do they work with other factions, etc.

For me steampunk dwarfs with advanced aviation and bomb carriers and, say, undead pirates can not realistically exist in one place. The first would wipe out the latter at a first chance. But again, I might be getting too old to embrace this new approach.  :closed-eyes:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on October 27, 2019, 02:22:48 PM
New Feast of Bones. Ogres and undead. That actually caught my interest. Except it’s sold out already. I have to say the new undead faction is starting to appeal to me. The ogres look great.

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-CA/The-Endless-Boneyard-Collection-2019
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on October 27, 2019, 05:05:09 PM
I can see why the fantasy Necrons would want those Ogres bones. Oh well.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Warlord on October 27, 2019, 11:35:40 PM
I like the mawpot.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on October 28, 2019, 11:23:19 AM
I like the mawpot.

Looking down the road a bit. I have a long way to go but the ogors are my next venture. I love the whole look and idea of them.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Victor on November 03, 2019, 10:48:02 AM
Chaos warriors are back ... and all things considered, they do not look bad (they don't look good either in my opinion, but hey ..)

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/11/02/new-reveals-chaos-sororitas-tanks-and-moregw-homepage-post-1/

(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/BloodandGlory-Nov02-Warriors3sdg.jpg)

(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/BloodandGlory-Nov02-Knights9sdcvx.jpg)

(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/BloodandGlory-Nov02-Lord9sfde.jpg)


Also new: some Warcry Chaos Monsters:

(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/BloodandGlory-Nov02-Agroid8sdfed.jpg)

etc.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on November 03, 2019, 12:27:31 PM
Love these guys! I here chaos calling......choke....gasp
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on November 03, 2019, 12:37:05 PM
You there just not answer....
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on November 03, 2019, 01:25:37 PM
Those pictures of the infantry and cavalry look decent.  As does the minotaur.  But that creature with his rider, maybe its the painting of the creature, yet still, too many horns coming out of the riders back for my liking.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Warlord on November 03, 2019, 01:44:46 PM
Those are the sculpts I wanted when they release the stupid chosen and chaos knights previously. I like very much.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on November 03, 2019, 01:47:31 PM
Those are the sculpts I wanted when they release the stupid chosen and chaos knights previously. I like very much.

They are very dynamic. So far, the whole chaos range seems to be right on target.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Warlord on November 03, 2019, 01:53:53 PM
Agree.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Cèsar de Quart on November 03, 2019, 03:37:02 PM
Those are the sculpts I wanted when they release the stupid chosen and chaos knights previously. I like very much.

Exactly what I thought when I saw the recent Chaos Knights and the god-awful Varanguard minis.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Zak on November 05, 2019, 12:54:47 AM
meh ( grudgingly) they do look good  :blush:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on November 05, 2019, 02:51:56 AM
I'm a big fan. The warriors to me look very much like the classic sculpts, but upgrades, touched up and given some dynamism. I don't care as much abut monster riding lords, but the knights look good to.

What is with this weird back and forth on sculpts? They do a phenomenal set, then something like these new bone bois, and then great stuff again.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Sharkbelly on November 05, 2019, 12:19:50 PM
I think that's they way it goes. They can't all be winners, not to everyone.

I too find the Ossiarchs to be very "meh." I have been picking up the Underworlds undead, though. I like the classic look.

But I know there are many who really like the new undead.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Zak on November 05, 2019, 02:50:57 PM
GW can still produce a nice model that's for sure, even stuff I don't like is still very dynamic in its concept and sculpt.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Sharkbelly on November 06, 2019, 02:44:19 AM
Agreed. I really don't play much any more, aside from some Warhammer Quest--and hopefully some Underworlds--but I like to pick up a new model once in a while.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: KTG17 on November 06, 2019, 03:21:19 AM
Wow! The poses don’t look like they would work for ranks, but I def could use a couple for heros!
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Sharkbelly on November 06, 2019, 04:41:54 AM
Agreed. I miss the ol' rank and file days of warhammer, but getting away from it does allow for dynamic models.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on November 07, 2019, 11:47:27 AM
Just checked out Ogre Mawtribes on azyr. Quite a substantial army and plenty of models to choose from. These guys are now definitely on my to do list.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: The Penguin on November 16, 2019, 08:21:46 AM
I'll just leave that here.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/11/15/old-world-new-warhammer/

 :ph34r:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on November 16, 2019, 05:18:07 PM
I'm trying not to get to excited. We're literally years off, and who knows what exactly they're doing.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on November 20, 2019, 06:03:33 PM
Like the Conquest magazine there is now an AoS variant only for UK and Spain for now

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/11/20/enter-the-mortal-realms-in-2020/
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on November 21, 2019, 03:42:13 AM
I think this is a really good thing. Not quite in my price range, but I like the idea of is. Plus Night Haunt are sweet.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on November 21, 2019, 09:45:42 AM
I think this is a really good thing. Not quite in my price range, but I like the idea of is. Plus Night Haunt are sweet.

Yeah I really love this aswell and even the price range is good in the end you will save some money on buying everything seperatly and you even get some nice hobby extra's..

To bad I'm still waiting for the 40k version Conquest to be available in the Netherlands.. UK/Ireland, Australia, Spain, Italy are (as far as I know now) the only countries you can get it. So I don't expect the AoS version to become available here anytime soon either
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on November 21, 2019, 12:34:38 PM
This "magazine" idea might work well for some to get into the hobby, but I'm already into it and not the least bit attracted to the idea.  Of course having the Stormcrud figures as part of it, doesn't help the idea for me either.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on November 21, 2019, 12:44:28 PM
Quote GP : Of course having the Stormcrud figures as part of it, doesn't help the idea for me either.

😿

Actually I almost asked for stormcrud at the local GW last time I was in. Had to laugh and check myself. It’s bad enough that I call them Sigmarines regularly. I am making my stormcast in Matorean colours when I get to the bench and look forward to your opinion as usual😺
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on November 21, 2019, 01:08:33 PM
Ha! Blue and Orange on Stormcrud ... no association with Matorea, no way! :icon_wink: :icon_lol:

Makes me want to return to my Matorean figures ... I got a unit of 20 swordsmen basecoated in white with flesh and orange on them.  They need completing!  And then there are those handgunners that need some blue and orange, too!  These might double has a Marienburg Von Koscumberg merchant family's military units as well.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Zak on November 21, 2019, 03:31:55 PM
I heard AOS is going to die as the old world stops a mud hole in it … might just be a rumor  :closed-eyes:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on November 21, 2019, 04:16:36 PM
I heard AOS is going to die as the old world stops a mud hole in it … might just be a rumor  :closed-eyes:

I believe that can be construed as a counter heresy!
 ::heretic:: ::heretic::
😸
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Doombull on November 21, 2019, 05:03:50 PM
I heard AOS is going to die as the old world stops a mud hole in it … might just be a rumor  :closed-eyes:

All kidding aside, GW's bringing this product line back because they believe it's not competition with AoS. To be fair, this is probably true. Not only is this new game going to be different than AoS to such an extent it won't have the same market, it's also going to be different enough in terms of style and support that even if it surpassed AoS in terms of sales (which may be hard to track as there will be a lot of crossover for miniatures I suspect) it will not kill AoS as a product.

The only way AoS ever would go away, is if AoS's sales collapsed. Which I just don't see happening.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on November 21, 2019, 08:18:17 PM
I heard AOS is going to die as the old world stops a mud hole in it … might just be a rumor  :closed-eyes:

Sorry Zak, but not only is this blatantly untrue it misses a major point of why their bringing the old world back. AoS is outselling the Old World by a huge Degree. It's doing so good, they can afford to burn money on a setting that was costing them money purely to try and make some extra bucks off old players and the total war/vermintide crowd. The Old World is only coming back because of AoS. The moment they have a problem and start losing money the old world is on the chopping block again.

Like it or not, The Empire has quite literally been saved by Age of Sigmar and the Stormcast. Call them stormcrud or sigmarines, they're popularity and sales are directly responsible for resurrecting Altdorf and our beloved landsknecht.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Doombull on November 21, 2019, 09:07:23 PM
I heard AOS is going to die as the old world stops a mud hole in it … might just be a rumor  :closed-eyes:

Sorry Zak, but not only is this blatantly untrue it misses a major point of why their bringing the old world back. AoS is outselling the Old World by a huge Degree. It's doing so good, they can afford to burn money on a setting that was costing them money purely to try and make some extra bucks off old players and the total war/vermintide crowd. The Old World is only coming back because of AoS. The moment they have a problem and start losing money the old world is on the chopping block again.

Like it or not, The Empire has quite literally been saved by Age of Sigmar and the Stormcast. Call them stormcrud or sigmarines, they're popularity and sales are directly responsible for resurrecting Altdorf and our beloved landsknecht.

This is something people have made up. I have to stress. Warhammer Fantasy did not cost GW money. They didn't lose money on it. Not at all. They just felt it underperformed. That is NOT the same thing as losing money. It was a net positive for them. It was just NOT 40k. And they wanted something that could be closer to 40k numbers. It was a middling profit. Not a loss.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on November 21, 2019, 10:42:46 PM
That's a better way to put it true. Although some of the ranges were selling terrible and overall the whole system was doing very poorly. AoS by comparison is doing way better, and I still stand by the fact that it's that profit that's letting them reconsider something that was doing so poorly.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Doombull on November 21, 2019, 10:52:15 PM
That's a better way to put it true. Although some of the ranges were selling terrible and overall the whole system was doing very poorly. AoS by comparison is doing way better, and I still stand by the fact that it's that profit that's letting them reconsider something that was doing so poorly.

GW as a whole was grossly mismanaged during that time. Even 40k was in a slump due to years of neglect and stupidity. Kirby and his cadre being ousted changed everything for the better, 100%.

However, the biggest factor, beyond the fact that it didn't make as much money as they wanted was Copyright. This decision was made AFTER chapterhouse. That was definitely a factor.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on November 21, 2019, 11:37:56 PM
Those are part of it, but I don't think a main one. Fantasy itself was in a bad place long before either of those. There might be a little life pumped in with every new edition, but the whole game was in a bad place.

Even if we look at copyright, that's a problem Fantasy is still going to have. Assuming they come back in vaguely the same shape as it was when it left. 40k been able to change it up somewhat, but the Empire is still going to be fairly generic looking historical stuff with some fantasy elements. Dwarfs are fairly generic looking fantasy dwarfs, etc.

The lore is fantastic, and going to be one of the main selling points. Plus I really don't want them to change the look. I really don't want them to try and make it look like AoS. That would defeat the whole point of bringing it back I think.

I
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on November 21, 2019, 11:58:11 PM
Quote Gankom:
The lore is fantastic, and going to be one of the main selling points. Plus I really don't want them to change the look. I really don't want them to try and make it look like AoS. That would defeat the whole point of bringing it back I think.

Absolutely. I like AoS for what is. Would like WFB to be its own
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Doombull on November 22, 2019, 12:14:50 AM
Those are part of it, but I don't think a main one. Fantasy itself was in a bad place long before either of those. There might be a little life pumped in with every new edition, but the whole game was in a bad place.

Even if we look at copyright, that's a problem Fantasy is still going to have. Assuming they come back in vaguely the same shape as it was when it left. 40k been able to change it up somewhat, but the Empire is still going to be fairly generic looking historical stuff with some fantasy elements. Dwarfs are fairly generic looking fantasy dwarfs, etc.

The lore is fantastic, and going to be one of the main selling points. Plus I really don't want them to change the look. I really don't want them to try and make it look like AoS. That would defeat the whole point of bringing it back I think.

I

I think that they'll change the names on things, much like they did in AoS. The Empire will still be the Empire, but it might be The Empire of XXXX. And Elves will become Aelfs and ect. Orcs will probably be called Orks, rather than Orruks I suspect. But there will be name changes for the factions themselves.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on November 22, 2019, 12:21:23 AM
I can see faction name changes. Perhaps some kind of middle ground between the 'current' Old World and what it is in AoS.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Warlord on November 22, 2019, 01:30:58 AM
Do we see a time portal between AoS and old world for Sigmarines to pour through and save the Old World from destruction? Time paradox be damned?
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on November 22, 2019, 02:06:14 AM
I don't myself. They seem pretty certain to keep the End Times as canon. This is being compared to the Horus Heresy specialist games for 40k, so kind of like asking if Modern 40k will flood back into 30k to change the timeline. Besides, there's no reason to. All the new stuff will continue to sell fine for AoS so there's no need to move them into the 'historical' game. Not to mention if they want to cash in on the video game crowd it wont amount to much. None of its in the video games!
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Doombull on November 22, 2019, 02:24:59 AM
The only way they'd retcon the End Times, is if The Old World became dramatically successful. As in, pulling numbers, consistently comparable to a core game.

I don't expect that. I expect it to do well, probably the best "specialist Game" outside of the Horus Heresy, but it won't do as well as AoS or 40k.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Warlord on November 22, 2019, 09:41:58 AM
I dont expect it to do all that well because almost everything GW produce is crazy overpriced nowadays IMO.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Doombull on November 22, 2019, 09:45:02 AM
I dont expect it to do all that well because almost everything GW produce is crazy overpriced nowadays IMO.

Yet somehow the company is doing dramatically well. We'll see upon launch, but I expect it will do just fine.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Warlord on November 22, 2019, 10:08:11 AM
Perhaps. I honestly dont know anything about their financials, other than feeling they are too expensive.

Also I’m not sure that is the case in Australia. I remember about 10 years ago they had a big expansion, opening lots of new stores. About 5 - 6 years ago a lot if them closed, and haven’t reopened since.
They may be profitable, but I feel like they are priced in such a way that the playerbase has diminished or shrunk from what it used to be.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Doombull on November 22, 2019, 10:11:52 AM
Perhaps. I honestly dont know anything about their financials, other than feeling they are too expensive.

Also I’m not sure that is the case in Australia. I remember about 10 years ago they had a big expansion, opening lots of new stores. About 5 - 6 years ago a lot if them closed, and haven’t reopened since.
They may be profitable, but I feel like they are priced in such a way that the playerbase has diminished or shrunk from what it used to be.

To be fair, Aus and NZ just get screwed. GW clearly doesn't prioritize those markets at all. :(
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Warlord on November 22, 2019, 10:24:10 AM
To be fair, Aus and NZ just get screwed. GW clearly doesn't prioritize those markets at all. :(

Its where I live, so the only real lens on these things that I have.
But yeah.... :-(
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Doombull on November 22, 2019, 10:41:37 AM
To be fair, Aus and NZ just get screwed. GW clearly doesn't prioritize those markets at all. :(

Its where I live, so the only real lens on these things that I have.
But yeah.... :-(

I feel you mate. I'm a dual citizen with NZ. If I ever moved back home, my hobbying would... evaporate, lol.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on November 22, 2019, 03:19:02 PM
Yeah unfortunately I feel Aussie land got screwed pretty hard. It looks like GW has no interest in going back either. There's massive expansion in the States and Canada, and tournament numbers are way up. I've heard it's even getting pretty big in Japan. possibly helped by the fact they seem to be treating Japan as a bit of a test bed. (Like with 40k Heroes series for example.)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Warlord on November 22, 2019, 09:26:48 PM
The thing is, they just consistently screwed us on price. They should have realised when it was more cost effective for people to buy from the US or UK stores, pay for shipping and still be saving money. When they cut off international shipping on their website, is roughly when they started to close their newly opened stores.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on December 25, 2019, 10:55:19 AM
Aether War box coming! Tzeentch vs Arkanauts with new battletomes
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/12/25/happy-christmas-from-warhammer-communitygw-homepage-post-1/
and 2 new heroes

Endrinmaster with Dirigible Suit
(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/56790dab.jpg)

Magister on Disc of Tzeentch
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Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on December 25, 2019, 01:58:39 PM
I like!👆
I was just thinking of getting the tzeentch battletome. I’ll hold off for now. I have enough tzeentch for a 3000 point army from old models but I really like the tzangors and have none.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on January 04, 2020, 05:46:53 PM
Stand by!!!! Things are gettin good!

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/01/04/reveals-from-the-new-year-open-day-2020gw-homepage-post-1/
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on January 24, 2020, 09:05:50 AM
Reveals from LVO:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/01/24/from-aelves-to-zoats-previews-from-lvogw-homepage-post-1fw-homepage-post-1/

Lumineth Realm-lords

Vanari Auralan Wardens
(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/130ebc40.jpg)

Vanari Dawnriders
(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/a95ec68e.jpg)

The Light of Eltharion (he is a hollow armour! spooky)
(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/41fb8e70.jpg)

Teclis
(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/f8c1a99d.jpg)


Seraphon battletome
(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/e0f6a380.jpg)

and this ziggurat?
(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/40f2e53e.jpg)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on January 24, 2020, 10:56:01 AM
So they made the Elfs have ancient greek looking helmets.  And I find it interesting that the shields have those holes in the upper corner for the spears as well.  There was another company recently that made elves with shields similar to that.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Zak on January 24, 2020, 02:59:09 PM
So they made the Elfs have ancient greek looking helmets.  And I find it interesting that the shields have those holes in the upper corner for the spears as well.  There was another company recently that made elves with shields similar to that.


I like what I see  :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on January 24, 2020, 05:03:20 PM
I love them. They really look like updated high elves, and I like the way that God-Mage Teclis is fairly normally proportioned. I don't like big monsters myself, but I could see some great conversions there. 
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: oak_prince on January 26, 2020, 03:33:27 AM
I like Teclis' Griffon-Sphinx a lot.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Warlord on January 26, 2020, 07:11:26 AM
Finally some great new high elves.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Zak on January 28, 2020, 06:39:13 PM
Finally some great new high elves.

agreed
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on January 30, 2020, 06:20:33 PM
Those elfs look like WFB.  And that means W:AoS is dieing.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on January 30, 2020, 09:23:49 PM
Those elfs look like WFB.  And that means W:AoS is dieing.

😺 👆
There are about 25 different factions. I think 5 elf factions alone. These are a great looking force but I don’t think it’s dying yet 😸
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on January 30, 2020, 10:26:24 PM
W:AoS has 5 elf factions? :icon_eek: :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on January 30, 2020, 10:40:56 PM
W:AoS has 5 elf factions? :icon_eek: :icon_lol:

The Darklings Coven
Daughters of Kaine
Idoneth Deepkin
The Wandererers
The Kurnoth (kind of tree thingy wood elvish)
Cities of Sigmar aelfs
Teclis’s new elf (above)
Tyrion’s ealfs on the horizon

That’s all I can think of at the moment
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Zak on January 31, 2020, 09:43:51 PM
W:AoS has 5 elf factions? :icon_eek: :icon_lol:

The Darklings Coven
Daughters of Kaine
Idoneth Deepkin
The Wandererers
The Kurnoth (kind of tree thingy wood elvish)
Cities of Sigmar aelfs
Teclis’s new elf (above)
Tyrion’s ealfs on the horizon

That’s all I can think of at the moment

that's about three too many
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on February 01, 2020, 12:39:01 AM
There was an interesting lore blurb on the new high elves the other day that I thought people here might like.

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If you saw our detailed coverage of the mind-blowing Warhammer Preview from the LVO last weekend (you have seen it, right?), then you’ll know that a new aelf faction is on its way for Warhammer Age of Sigmar – the Lumineth Realm-lords! What’s more, we’re going to be guiding you through their lore and development all the way up until their launch so that you can learn all about them. Speaking of which, in the first instalment of the Lumineth Lowdown, we’re looking at their origins…
Out With the Old, In With the New
The old aelven pantheon is dead,* having perished long ago with the world-that-was. Yet when the Mortal Realms were formed and Sigmar travelled the fantastical new lands, he discovered that, like himself, some of his former allies had not only survived, but had been reborn anew as divine beings. Two among them were the twin aelven gods, Tyrion and Teclis.
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After working with Malerion to entrap Slaanesh in the Hidden Gloaming, Tyrion and Teclis began to siphon the souls of their former kin who had been swallowed by the Dark Prince during the destruction of the Old World. Of all the spirits drawn forth from the slumbering Chaos God, the most stable and pure became known as the Lumineth. They settled within Hysh, the Realm of Light, a paradisal land of geometric perfection. There, the Lumineth grew both wise and powerful from the teachings of the twin gods.

From Darkness to Light
Despite their nobility of spirit, the history of Lumineth Realm-lords is far from without incident, for no aelf could suffer an age of torment after having been consumed by Slaanesh and emerge unscathed. As is ever the way with the corrupting influence of the Dark Prince of Chaos, it was their own emotions that saw the Lumineth fall from the light. Yet before unchecked hubris and jealousy tore them apart, the Lumineth found salvation by returning to Teclis’ path of wisdom, knowledge and self-betterment, which ultimately brought their civilisation back from the brink of self-destruction. This period of enlightenment became known as the Reinvention, and it inspired every aspect of the lives they now lead.
Following the teachings of Teclis, the Lumineth also learned to communicate with, and even channel, the geomantic spirits of Hysh – specifically those of the mountains, rivers, wind and zenith (or sky). This affected every aspect of their existence, from the knowledge they accumulated to the way they fought and the magic they employed. Lumineth warriors who bonded with the spirit of the mountain would be all but immovable in battle, stoically weathering the tide of enemies crashing against them, while their mages would bombard their foes with stones and crush them beneath rocks. This led the Lumineth to develop four distinct sub-cultures within their wider civilisation, each with its own orders of mages and warriors. By dedicating themselves, mind and soul, to the pursuit of furtherance in their chosen path, the Lumineth could better avoid the lure of Slaanesh.

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Aetherquartz
Greater enlightenment for the Lumineth came through harnessing the unique properties of aetherquartz, the Hyshian realmstone, in specially designed jewellery. They discovered that they could endlessly reflect the power of Hysh within this realmstone to empower the mind, body and soul. This did not come without a cost, for even as it offered illumination, the aetherquartz crystal eventually grew dim, and so drained the emotions of its bearer to restore its inner light. To the Lumineth, who sought perfection in all things, such a sacrifice was well worth paying, for emotion was a path to corruption… to Slaanesh.

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Once the energy bound within an aetherquartz diminishes, it is left blackened by drained emotions. The Lumineth discard these spent stones, replacing them with freshly prepared aetherquartz to revitalise them once more. So, with each gem discarded, the Lumineth become more mentally, physically and spiritually gifted, yet grow colder and more aloof.
The Peerless Armies of the Lumineth
As one might expect from warriors and mages whose aetherquartz-enhanced skills have far transcended their natural capabilities, the armies of the Lumineth Realm-lords are among the deadliest in the Mortal Realms. They wage war with peerless coordination, their phalanxes of spearmen and formations of swift cavalry seamlessly working together to overcome even many times their own number in foes. Meanwhile, mages of incredible power rain down destructive, elemental magic to the utter ruin of their enemies. With the peerless martial prowess of Tyrion and the enlightened teachings of Teclis driving their every action on the battlefield, the Lumineth Realm-lords are the art of war made manifest.
Now that you know a bit more about the Lumineth Realm-lords, next time, we’ll be taking a closer look at their miniatures – starting with their spearmen, the Vanari Auralan Wardens – and investigating the significance of their runes. In the meantime, head on over to the Warhammer Age of Sigmar Facebook page and let us know what excites you most about with the Lumineth Realm-lords. If you haven’t done so already, sign up to our newsletter to be the among the first to know what’s going on with all the latest news and articles.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on February 01, 2020, 02:43:54 AM
Wait, wait, wait.  Isn't it called Warhammer: Age of Sigmar? It is starting to sound more like Warhammer: Age of Elfs. :icon_wink:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on February 01, 2020, 02:50:33 AM
Nah its only the recent stuff, and as someone who likes the Stormcast I'm really enjoying a break from them. I just hope dwarfs get one soon.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on February 01, 2020, 04:55:23 AM
Yes, yes, those shorter folks always getting short shrift ... next I'm sure will be Warhammer: Age of Dwarfs.



















 :engel: :icon_mrgreen: :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Warlord on February 01, 2020, 01:40:58 PM
Dwarves already got their turn with the skylords.

What is with all the lore making all the armies emotionless drones?
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on February 01, 2020, 02:42:33 PM
Dwarves already got their turn with the skylords.

What is with all the lore making all the armies emotionless drones?

Rest assured the dwarves won’t be cleansed of there merciless, ageless, grudge bearing, money loving, xenophobic, beer loving, judgemental, contractual behaviours that make them the warm fuzzies that they are and we love 😸

That would be inexcusable.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Zak on February 06, 2020, 12:36:30 AM
Dwarves already got their turn with the skylords.

What is with all the lore making all the armies emotionless drones?

Rest assured the dwarves won’t be cleansed of there merciless, ageless, grudge bearing, money loving, xenophobic, beer loving, judgemental, contractual behaviours that make them the warm fuzzies that they are and we love 😸

That would be inexcusable.

that's why I love them hahaha
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: S.O.F on February 06, 2020, 01:07:35 AM
What is with all the lore making all the armies emotionless drones?

I read it more like annoying hyper-Vulkans more than just drones but concept is not a good one either way.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Warlord on February 07, 2020, 02:14:51 PM
Sure, perhaps not drones.
But so many armies devoid of emotion because emotion = chaos is such a simplistic take.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Zak on February 09, 2020, 10:13:22 PM
these ELVES will look great all united up on square bases  :smile2:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on February 10, 2020, 04:05:49 PM
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We’re back with another detailed look at the upcoming range of Hyshian aelves known as the Lumineth Realm-lords. In the inaugural instalment of the series, we revealed the lore behind their origins, but today we’re taking our first proper look at one of the new units – the Vanari Auralan Wardens – and the significance to their wider culture of the runes worn so proudly on their shields.




Who Are They?

The spear phalanxes of the Vanari Auralan Wardens are the mainstay of the Lumineth battleline. They fight with a synergy and grace that lesser races couldn’t even begin to fathom. While the arrows of the Auralan Sentinels and magical bombardments of their mages rain down upon their enemies, the Wardens stoically hold their ground, awaiting the desperate charge of their embattled foes.

Heartbeats before combat is joined, the sunmetal tips of the Wardens’ spears flare into life with the solar energies they have absorbed, tearing through armour, flesh and bone as their Wardens skewer their would-be attackers with thrusts of lethal precision. They are led by High Wardens, imperious Lumineth officers who stand at the rear of each phalanx. Easily identified by their decorative back-banners, the High Wardens direct the warriors under their command and channel the magic of Hysh into their enchanted weapons to the utter ruin of their enemies.

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The Miniatures

As the Auralan Wardens fight as a phalanx, they have been designed in a variety of defensive poses, with leaf-shaped shields to the fore and long spears thrust forwards to face the enemy. Their shields each have a crescent-shaped nook, enabling the warriors to support the weight of their spear shafts and thrust their weapons forwards even when their shields are interlocked. The shields themselves are interchangeable and feature intricate woven lattice work on their unarmoured side, hinting at the incredible craftsmanship that is synonymous with everything the Lumineth create.
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With the exception of triangular tabards of scale mail, the lower halves of the Wardens remain unarmoured – these areas of the body are protected by the interlocking shields of the phalanx. Meanwhile, the upper halves feature a mix of male and female torsos, each clad in layers of scale and plate armour with elegant, curved pauldrons. Their armour is bedecked with sun and moon icons, symbolising the twin gods of Hysh, for their warriors are neither Tyrionic nor Teclian exclusively. The interchangeable heads of the Auralan Wardens are protected by full helms and crowned with exotic plumes.

Each of the Auralan Wardens carries a short sword strapped to their backs. Though not designed to be their primary weapons, these blades would be drawn for self-defence should an enemy get inside their reach – or to extricate their spears should an enemy become kebabed on the shaft!

The Runes

To the Lumineth, runes are more than just a form of symbolism – they represent their way of life and are a fundamental part of their civilisation. In addition to serving as a type of language,* runes represent the higher forms of learning and enlightenment embodied by the Hyshian aelves. That the Vanari Auralan Wardens display runes so overtly on their shields only serves to reinforce that they are students of far more than just war.

Integral to this is the Runic Mandala, the Lumineth evolution of the Pantheonic Mandala which once depicted the aelven gods from the world-that-was. In addition to representing an amalgam of the runes of the four Hyshian geomantic spirits, the more elaborate versions incorporate the twin aspects of sun and moon, both separate yet intrinsically linked, just as with the godly twins that embody them.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Zak on February 11, 2020, 10:01:27 PM
goods grief they look amazing  :::cheers::: :::cheers::: :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on February 11, 2020, 10:24:02 PM
I really do like the look of them myself as well.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on February 11, 2020, 10:54:37 PM
I really do like the look of them myself as well.


I decided to leave my old wfb elves alone. The new AoS will only be the new miniatures.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Warlord on February 13, 2020, 01:09:45 AM
They look expensive.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on February 13, 2020, 01:47:44 AM
Ya, I'm imagining they are. And it'll be shocking. :icon_eek:
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on February 13, 2020, 02:33:38 AM
I'm fully expecting a group of 10 to be around 70 Canadian.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Warlord on February 13, 2020, 01:44:43 PM
Yep. I’m expecting perhaps $87 AUD.
Basically as much as a full priced xbox game. Which is insane.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on February 13, 2020, 06:15:04 PM
Totally nuts. I cannot for the life of me figure out why they'd double down on start collecting boxes and other box kits with good discounts and models, only to jack the prices on everything else up. They want to get people into the game, but apparently not work to hard on getting them to build big armies.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on February 24, 2020, 07:18:43 PM
Like!👇

(https://artobansghost.files.wordpress.com/2020/02/img_0025.jpg)
(https://artobansghost.files.wordpress.com/2020/02/img_0026.jpg)


https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/02/24/at-the-speed-of-lightgw-homepage-post-1/
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on March 09, 2020, 04:57:56 PM
New mage sighted. Check out that head set on this.

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/453698915749986306/686615163528282282/18944859.png)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on March 09, 2020, 05:56:11 PM
What mage in his right mind, granted some of them aren't, would ride on something like that?
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on March 09, 2020, 05:57:21 PM
Apparently in the not cut off picture it's flying. Not that much different from an oath stone or magic carpet I guess.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on March 10, 2020, 08:19:56 AM
Other reveals from GAMMA:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/03/10/revealed-at-gamagw-homepage-post-3fw-homepage-post-4/

Auralan Sentinels:
(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/0d5c9aaf.jpg)

Full picture from the one posted earlier, Alarith Stonemage:
(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/d798b0b0.jpg)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Zygmund on March 11, 2020, 12:47:17 PM
Rather interesting bowstring construction.  :-o

The marmoresque cloudy armour is a great idea and very nicely painted. Makes it look like incredibly hard and lightweight at the same time.

-Z
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on March 11, 2020, 03:56:02 PM
I actually kind of like the bowstrings. Its a neat way of making it look like a compound bow.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on March 28, 2020, 03:30:49 PM
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The Lumineth take their strength from the very land of Hysh, and these aelves follow the aspect of the mountain, from which they inherit part of their might and resilience. That incredible centrepiece model is Avalenor, the Stoneheart King. He is the eldest and the wisest of the mountain spirits that march to war with the aelves. Take a closer look at the model that is redefining what it means to be part of an aelf army.

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Part mystical creature, part mountain, and it can go toe-to-toe with a Bloodthirster – what more could you ask for? And, of course, we couldn’t have a Warhammer Preview without some actual war hammers. Elves have been part of Warhammer for ages, but they haven’t ever held hammers – until now!

These are the Alarith Stoneguard, the elite infantry of the Lumineth Realm-lords. They fight like immovable objects, wielding magical hammers that crush enemy skulls with a single blow. We hope that you’re ready to start seeing all of your problems as nails.

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Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Victor on March 28, 2020, 04:43:44 PM
Ridiculous.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on March 28, 2020, 04:57:26 PM
Beastmen!
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on March 28, 2020, 05:36:34 PM
Not a huge fan of the helmets on the warhammer guys but I kind of like the rest of them. The first giant cow looks neat. Not quite like a minotaur but I like the idea of some kind of bull spirit as opposed to the animalistic beastmen.

Bonzai Mountain man on the second cow is... not great. There's already a photoshop going around of how it looks without it, and I think its much better.

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/674991454728486931/693512998714605708/0e6714ef.png)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on March 28, 2020, 06:09:06 PM
Are the beastmen wearing masks? The figures look blah with the facial "masks".

These are definitely beastmen, not elves.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on March 28, 2020, 06:45:54 PM
I think they're suppose to be like spirit or totem masks like you might see in other games.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on March 28, 2020, 07:07:47 PM
Just noticed the cloven feet as well. I loved the horsemen units and infantry. These will have to grow on me. Not sure about the helms either. At one time I really disliked the Idoneth as well but love them now.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Warlord on April 02, 2020, 11:46:22 AM
I saw the giant goat as ‘aelves’ and literally said out loud ‘there it is’ as in there is the ridiculous theme or models to ruin what they are going with the new elves.

Surely a werelion or something like that made more sense.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on April 02, 2020, 12:11:12 PM
I saw the giant goat as ‘aelves’ and literally said out loud ‘there it is’ as in there is the ridiculous theme or models to ruin what they are going with the new elves.

Surely a werelion or something like that made more sense.

I hope not warlord. I would like to say this is a AoS version which is pretty out there for sure and the OW versions will be different. No use having totally interchangeable units to work with. I really like the new cavalry and infantry a few pics up but certainly on the fence about these ones.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on April 02, 2020, 12:15:23 PM
It's a half beast.

(No GP ... you were correct the first time.)

It is a beastman in disguise!

(GP ... really?)

It's a half beast.  No ,it's a beastman in disguise.  No, it's ... super beastman!

(GP ...  :icon_rolleyes: )

Ok, ok, ok.  It's a beastman.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Artobans Ghost on April 02, 2020, 01:08:50 PM
Hard to deny when you look at the feet. ☝️
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: GamesPoet on April 02, 2020, 01:15:55 PM
The whole W:AoS universe is one messed up mess.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Victor on April 03, 2020, 03:04:10 PM
I saw the giant goat as ‘aelves’ and literally said out loud ‘there it is’ as in there is the ridiculous theme or models to ruin what they are going with the new elves.


It feels like GW is constantly 'jumping-the-shark' with AoS ..
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on April 04, 2020, 01:56:04 AM
I don't think its an AoS thing. People said pretty much the same thing about Demigryphs. Honestly I don't find the giant cows that bad. The rest of the elf line here is pretty good, although I'll be changing some helmets up. The previous Ossiarch range was meh for me, but almost everything coming out of the Shadespire/Underworlds is fantastic.

GW's been more or less the same quality/garbage cycle for decades.
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Warlord on April 05, 2020, 01:43:54 PM
True. Plastic minotaurs spring to mind from late 7th ed...
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Gankom on April 07, 2020, 05:28:40 PM
There's an interesting art showcase for the new elves. https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/04/06/ultimate-art-isansgw-homepage-post-3.

The artist says they made a point of making them brighter and more prismatic compared to the other dark and foreboding factions, especially because they're suppose to come from the realm of light.

(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Re~7-hT4_0Ax6w-L.jpg)

Eltharion Reborn

(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/9fK_K9_c_Qg9~oO4.jpg)

(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/dB-8~xK82oF-_Hq3-e1586181681618.jpg)

(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Ql_6_U5oGw3_X~9n.jpg)

(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/l5-E~5lH_g9YWh-5.jpg)

(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/q2_Gc6~PV_i1_P6u.jpg)
Title: Re: Rumours and what's new to be expected of WAoS
Post by: Victor on April 08, 2020, 10:08:33 AM