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Title: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: red shift on November 10, 2015, 07:02:44 AM
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/hawkwargames/dropfleet-commander/comments

Drop fleet commander is a game very much in the vein of battlefleet gothic and has the same lead designer, Andy chambers. I am shamelessly plugging it here as I know there are some bfg fans about and I think it looks fantastic. I have pledged at captain level.
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: Finlay on November 10, 2015, 02:55:12 PM
i'll likely pledge for this.
Don't they do a ground version of this? I think if they do Whitey has played and liked it.
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: Finlay on November 10, 2015, 08:42:57 PM
Captain seems a really bad deal compared to commodore or commander.
50 quid more for one cruiser

Then 40 more for two fleets and 3 more cruisers.
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: red shift on November 10, 2015, 09:25:33 PM
You get two starter sets though so four fleets but obviously of the two base sets only. I am seriously considering updating to Commodore but I want to see the shaltari painted pics before I add the extra cash as I'm not sure how much I want the other kickstarter exclusive battlecruisers
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: Warlord on November 11, 2015, 07:12:06 AM
Just play X wing instead...  :-)
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: Finlay on November 11, 2015, 11:24:14 AM
apart from the fact they're totally different games.
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: Warlord on November 11, 2015, 11:16:40 PM
All space ship shooty games are the same

 :engel:
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: Finlay on November 12, 2015, 05:43:04 PM
yeh, flames of war is so similar to age of shitmar.
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: Finlay on December 04, 2015, 10:00:42 AM
I pledged at commodore. You're in Cornwall, aren't you red shift?
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: red shift on December 06, 2015, 06:24:12 PM
Yep, not far from truro. May well be up for travelling to get a game of this in. I should have good sized ucm and scourge fleets, was very tempted by phr but the lack of painted frigates put me off.
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: Finlay on February 03, 2016, 10:36:36 AM
late backer pledge for those who missed out on this:

http://dfcpm.com/



the shaltari fleet is not great looking but I love their DZC models.

PHR fleet is great. UCM fleet is generic and fine. Don't like the scourge models, for fleet or zone.
 
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: Finlay on May 25, 2016, 04:06:28 PM
https://www.podbean.com/media/player/3ytcn-59f36e

I enjoyed this podcast, talking to the founder, designer, leader etc of Hawk games.

Now really excited for this, i've bolted on the launch assets, space station and the exclusive Scourge battlecruiser.

Hoping for a smoother and better BFG, basically.

Impatiently waiting for it to come which should be in June.


The bolt on for the starte fleets is 35 each (3 cruisers 4 frigates), or the starter set is 60 (UCM and Scourge starter fleets, accessories to game with, rulebook) if anoyne is interested to piggyback on me.
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: Finlay on August 10, 2016, 01:50:22 PM
tirlobite scouge battleships!!

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q147/Nossi78/ScourgeDragon.jpg)

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q147/Nossi78/ScourgeDaemon.jpg)

bums me out Scourge are my least fav DZC models because I love their ships.

KS delayed, as per usual. Think it's at packing and delivery stage now, or very soon.
Excited, ready to paint something again after flogging myself too hard finishing admech before eurobash.
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: rufus sparkfire on August 10, 2016, 01:53:27 PM
Wow, I like that! Probably difficult to paint though.
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: Finlay on August 10, 2016, 01:58:25 PM
Think it'll be hard to get the multi colour beetle skin sheen on them (The chap used an airbrush to do it), but i think they'll take inks and drybrushing really well.
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: rufus sparkfire on August 10, 2016, 02:21:00 PM
The beetle effect is really nice! I guess a more normal painting technique would still look good though.
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: FR1DAY on August 10, 2016, 08:11:32 PM
Light silver base and then green and purple ink watered down and layered. Easy paint job. Light silver dry brush to finish.
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: Finlay on August 11, 2016, 04:30:23 PM
(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q147/Nossi78/Station1.jpg)

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q147/Nossi78/Station2.jpg)

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q147/Nossi78/Station3.jpg)

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q147/Nossi78/Station4.jpg)

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q147/Nossi78/Station5.jpg)

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q147/Nossi78/Station6.jpg)

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q147/Nossi78/Station7.jpg)



That lot is made from ONE sprue of the space station.

swoon.
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: FR1DAY on August 11, 2016, 06:27:10 PM
Wow. How much is it. The fighters also look perfect for bfg.
I could come down and play one weekend once you get it?
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: Finlay on August 11, 2016, 08:45:24 PM
I think space station was 30 on the starter, so a bit more retail.

Modular, so can make one ginormous one, 7 small, 3 small and 2 medium, 3 medium etc etc.
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: rufus sparkfire on August 11, 2016, 09:56:25 PM
Amazing space station stuff!
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: red shift on August 14, 2016, 07:54:36 PM
I can't wait for this to arrive. It's all so gloriously megalomaniac. Burn them all from space!
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: Finlay on August 26, 2016, 09:55:20 PM
I had a dream about this arriving last night, which seems... unhealthy.

Still, better than dreaming about being a waiter when i was a waiter. Dem 14 hours shifts.
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: Finlay on September 09, 2016, 11:09:46 AM
I'm getting kick-starter rage.

Post me my fucking models!
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: Finlay on September 18, 2016, 01:04:44 PM
(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14333774_10153982390246378_5677328054396835808_n.jpg?oh=d90c54507d2adc03f5302f934bfd102c&oe=586ABBE3)

Photo of rulebook from Invasion dropzone event.

Rulebook has been printed and received. They're packing and "ready to ship soon".
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: Finlay on September 19, 2016, 12:40:14 PM
http://natfka.blogspot.co.uk/2016/09/some-images-out-of-invasion-2016.html

natffka compile all the photos from facebook
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: Finlay on September 19, 2016, 09:57:41 PM
(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14359073_10157384751575063_914011249860725053_n.jpg?oh=99816991c59b24dc7d755a722add163c&oe=583A9E07)

drool
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: Gankom on September 19, 2016, 11:18:41 PM
Those look pretty sweet. Really alien and squidy.

I don't know much about Dropfleet, what faction are they?
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: Finlay on September 19, 2016, 11:42:36 PM
Scourge.

I think they're evil alien parasite squids.
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: Gankom on September 20, 2016, 12:03:54 AM
That would make an awful lot of sense from the look of them.
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: MrDWhitey on September 20, 2016, 07:18:57 AM
"evil"

Typically Finlay can't help himself from posting without lies.
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: Finlay on October 17, 2016, 09:10:26 AM
If I buy a 2player starter set before my commodore arrives, (I'm going on holiday next week and would love to have the book before then) would anyone fancy splitting the box for the UCM sprues and the rulebook from my pledge once it arrives?
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: Finlay on November 13, 2016, 09:40:52 AM
(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg88/nottsfootballfan/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20161113_090954.jpg)

(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg88/nottsfootballfan/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20161113_091013.jpg)
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: Midaski on November 13, 2016, 10:49:24 AM
Just copied those over to Matt  :engel:

He has been working on his Tor stuff though.
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: FR1DAY on November 13, 2016, 11:00:06 AM
They look great. How did you do the painting?
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: Finlay on November 13, 2016, 11:09:33 AM
watered down layers guilleman blue glaze, leviathan purple and baal red over a silver spray. (I think I didnt water down enough, and also think it should be more purple/reddish.

light drybrush of balthasar gold, focusing on the spines.

Nuln oil gloss over the top to blend it together and make it shiny.

Very light highlight of my lightest silver on the edge of the spines.

Waystone green technical paint for the eyes on the front. (wondering if I should do this red for more contrast?)

Pretty quick and easy but not 100% happy with it
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: rufus sparkfire on November 13, 2016, 11:36:35 AM
That looks amazing!
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: Finlay on November 17, 2016, 11:23:21 AM
people are selling sets of each factions ships from the pledge for 90 each.
the pledge cost 150!

90x4> 150.

Wish I'd done 2 pledges and got my lot for free!
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: rufus sparkfire on November 17, 2016, 11:32:32 AM
The one time you didn't overbuy!
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: Finlay on November 17, 2016, 01:20:21 PM
I know!

overbought the wrong one.

Nevermind, 150 for the commodore pledge is still an insanely good deal.


Hoping to get a test game in this weekend (and so finish my starter fleet painting by then)
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: Finlay on November 20, 2016, 10:51:17 PM
we played about 4 turns- I hadn't set up the table before hand and Matt needed to go at 5. We went slower than I expected, but I really should have pre-set the table!

turn 1- we both moved on, My scourge on silent running.
(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg88/nottsfootballfan/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20161120_153906.jpg)

pic of my fleet- not quite finished but probably can't tell the difference from here.
(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg88/nottsfootballfan/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20161120_153915.jpg)

I dropped a couple of my frigates into low atmosphere then used them to active scan his ships, and did a bit of damage to both the opposition cruisers, including a double 6 from my shenlong, doing 2 criticals, and as a 2damage weapon 4 damage without saves!
(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg88/nottsfootballfan/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20161120_161238.jpg)

Matt's light cruiser then shot at my frigate in low atmosphere, using the "calibre" special rule to boost his effectiveness.
2 damage cripples my frigates, and most crippled results do 2 more damage, so my frigate died.

He also shot my heavy cruiser with his gun frigates, rolling 5 4+ on 6 dice, resulting in 3 damage.
(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg88/nottsfootballfan/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20161120_164232.jpg)

I "weapons free" my Shenlong and battered his carrier, leaving it with 2 hull points and unable to shoot or launch any ships next turn.

in retaliation Matt managed a mazimum of 6 damage with his burnthrough laser against the Shenlong.
(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg88/nottsfootballfan/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20161120_165621.jpg)

this is when I forgot to carry on taking photos!

My Wyvern (close action cruiser) then annihilated a frigate and MAtt tried to ram his damaged and no weapons cruiser into it, but failed the roll and so it died.


At some point matt killed one of my strike carriers and right before he had to go I blew up his heavy cruiser, whixh exploded and killed my cruiser and crippled my other cruiser.

At the end of turn 4 there wasn't too much left on the board- a crippled cruiser and 2 frigates for me, and a crippled cruiser and 3 frigates for Matt.
Matt had both strike carriers alive though, so likely would have won if we'd carried on.

It was fun, but 4x3 definitely felt too small.

I really liked the alternate activation and strategy element with battlegroup ordering.
Need to figure out how to do damage and not get blatted in return! Scourge want to get close, I think I did a bit too much shooting early on, instead of going silent running as long as possible then trying to go for a big blast at the start of turn 3 or something.
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: rufus sparkfire on November 21, 2016, 10:21:14 AM
It looks fun! I like the planetary surface map. I'd like to play this.


but 4x3 definitely felt too small.

Was that the recommended size for that number of ships?
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: Finlay on November 21, 2016, 11:14:18 AM
that's the size of the paper maps you get in the starter box- and it comes with a recommended scenario for starter fleet vs starter fleet (which is roughly 550 vs 550)

I definitely wouldn't want to play 1000 pts on 4x3, or 1500 on 4x4. I think i'll buy a 6x4 matt like Adam did.

Also I feel the need for accesories to mark the sectors, clusters and debris fields- people have started to produce them.

Oh and the damage pegs on the bases definitely didn't work, and im not convinced about the atmosphere/spike use either, so need either tokens/counters for that, or paper book keeping like you need with BFG.


Matts hoping to come round one evening soon-ish (so no child interference) and I can pre-prepare the table and try and note down a proper battle report.
It was hard to do the battle report with the alternate activations and changing battlegroup activation order.
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: rufus sparkfire on November 21, 2016, 11:49:38 AM
It does seem like a small playing area, but I wondered if the game was designed with that size in mind. Perhaps you aren't supposed to have a lot of maneuver room!

I didn't realise that you track damage on the models in this. Do the bases track the relative altitudes of the ships too?


Quote
It was hard to do the battle report with the alternate activations and changing battlegroup activation order.

Just taking regular photos and giving an overview on what happened is good enough. There's no need to give a lot of detail.
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: Finlay on November 21, 2016, 11:56:31 AM
thought detail maybe good so people get more an idea of how the game actually works.

yes, the regular bases have an inner ring that twists inside the main base, that you use to track orbital layer (high orbit, low orbit, atmosphere) and "spikes"- you get spikes from firing certain weapons or doing orders, or being scanned, and the increase the range you can be shot at.

you suffer penalties shooting between orbital layers, and your ships die if they go into Atmosphere unless they have "atmospheric" special rule.
shooting in atmosphere only hits on 6s unless

The bases also have little holes to stick the damage pegs in, but way too fiddly.


If you don't have manuevre room, the games will just turn into a huge fight on the center board I think! Maybe they're meant to.
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: rufus sparkfire on November 22, 2016, 10:39:10 AM
thought detail maybe good so people get more an idea of how the game actually works.

Good point! Go for detail then.  :icon_razz:


I don't like the sound of the twisty bases really.
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: FR1DAY on November 22, 2016, 01:46:24 PM
It looks great as a game.
 I think the ships will standout better against a black background though.
I bet the bases seemed like a great idea, but are a bit fiddly in practice.
I'd also like to give it a go. We'll have to meet up in the new year.

Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: Finlay on November 22, 2016, 02:18:06 PM
you're not "supposed" to use a black background, as it's all about dropping assets onto critical locations on planets.

I believe there are some scenarios with space stations, though.
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: Finlay on November 25, 2016, 05:29:42 PM
(http://www.deepcutstudio.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/orbital-snowfields-game-mat-4x4-600x600.jpg)

(http://www.deepcutstudio.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/orbital-dunes-game-mat-4x4-777x583.jpg)

(http://www.deepcutstudio.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/orbital-earth-game-mat-4x4-777x583.jpg)

Which one is nicer?
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: FR1DAY on November 25, 2016, 08:47:11 PM
Green one for me.
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: rufus sparkfire on November 25, 2016, 10:12:35 PM
I like the snowy one. It could be Hoth.
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: Artobans Ghost on November 26, 2016, 02:52:00 AM
Snowy one is nice but I personally like winery themes.
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: Midaski on November 26, 2016, 09:00:47 AM
Snowy one is nice but I personally like winery themes.

Ah - it was an alcohol problem then ...............................  :engel:






@Finlay   -   Are these the vinyl ones like Fr1day's? 

 How much?
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: Finlay on November 26, 2016, 09:11:44 AM
They're from deep cut studios

PVC is 40 euros, mouse mat is 50 euros. I think Fridays is mouse mat?

There's a ten percent black Friday code atm.
But the mats are 4x4, I've emailed for a price for 6x4.
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: Artobans Ghost on November 26, 2016, 11:37:57 AM
Snowy one is nice but I personally like winery themes.

Ah - it was an alcohol problem then ...............................  :engel:


Ha! 🍇
It's amazing how many typo's I have. Poor editing but sometimes the truth  will out !



@Finlay   -   Are these the vinyl ones like Fr1day's? 

 How much?
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: rufus sparkfire on November 26, 2016, 11:43:18 AM
A planet-sized winery sounds pretty cool.
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: Finlay on November 27, 2016, 11:23:16 AM
(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg88/nottsfootballfan/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20161127_102721.jpg)

(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg88/nottsfootballfan/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20161127_102708.jpg)

(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg88/nottsfootballfan/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20161127_102808.jpg)
Phr wip. Not overly happy. One is several watered down layers green over a silver base. The other is a light green edge highlight, blended with green ink.

The stripes also a bit rubbish, hard to get the tape flat on the curved and ridged hull.
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: rufus sparkfire on November 27, 2016, 11:35:19 AM
I think they look good so far! The stripes are fine.
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: Finlay on November 27, 2016, 11:35:35 PM
"Hi, Finlay

Thanks! Our orbital mats are designed only for 4x4 feet. I can take a piece of it and scale it up to 6x4. Some quality loss can occur. Price for it 75 Eur (67,5 Eur with discount) + 15 Eur shipping."

hmm, works out at 70, plus "some quality loss".

or just get a 4x4 one for 51.
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: red shift on November 28, 2016, 10:40:18 AM
I gave up painting my phr, I just found getting a flat, uniform colour on those hulls really difficult. Might have another go soon. You look to have done a good job with that Finlay.
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: FR1DAY on November 28, 2016, 10:58:19 AM
Do a chumley and build up the colour in layers of ink. You'll get the flat finish then.
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: rufus sparkfire on November 28, 2016, 11:06:12 AM
hmm, works out at 70, plus "some quality loss".

or just get a 4x4 one for 51.

I don't like the sound of quality loss. High risk of disappointment!

I'd either get a 4x4 one or look elsewhere.
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: Finlay on November 28, 2016, 12:31:41 PM
dont think there are any 6x4 on the market yet.

maybe i should get a 4x4 to see us over.
people think that size is ok up to about 1250.

some people think its ok for 1500 too...

Do a chumley and build up the colour in layers of ink. You'll get the flat finish then.
I did this with Scourge, but i think i'm too impatient. it's always a bit blotchy. Masked on the scourge by the gold drybrush and black ink over the top.

I think I either need to add a more vivid highlight if highliting them, or go for green ink layers over a silvery spray to try and get a metallic green finish.
I think the stripes didn't work so might just leave them! At the moment I think they look totally unfinished. Maybe finishing the silver and the tail panels will massively help, like doing bases on a 40k model...


It's really tempting me to buy an airbrush!


someone on the FB group posted this

(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/15181346_10209038096443608_5846455236784939603_n.jpg?oh=db4a0121125580f74c2a71c87e80450c&oe=58C0B89A)

simple flat metallic colour, with contrasting tail panels. it looks decent!
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: Finlay on November 28, 2016, 02:25:31 PM
(http://www.deepcutstudio.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/miniature-wargames-gaming-mat-asteroid-4x6-600x600.jpg)

(http://www.deepcutstudio.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/miniature_wargames_mat_red_planet_4x6-600x600.jpg)

think either of these ok for "orbital"?
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: FR1DAY on November 28, 2016, 04:12:01 PM
For a moom, yes. Not a planet, the craters are to big.

Look good though. Just go with a 4x4 matt. It's plenty to begin with.

Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: Finlay on November 28, 2016, 04:47:34 PM
Don't want o spend 50 on a 4*4, then 65 6*4 in a few months!
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: Finlay on December 01, 2016, 11:08:58 AM
(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg88/nottsfootballfan/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20161201_093948.jpg)

(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg88/nottsfootballfan/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20161201_093856.jpg)

(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg88/nottsfootballfan/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20161201_093909.jpg)

better?

still feel likes its missing something- need's something on the broadside and also at the front of the hull. Maybe I need a little stencil and just do a black or red design?

Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: rufus sparkfire on December 01, 2016, 11:38:08 AM
Yes, that looks nice!

Put some more blue on the silver bits on the sides, and a few stripes or something on the green bit? Those models are a bit too smooth really. It's hard to make them look spaceship-sized.
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: FR1DAY on December 01, 2016, 10:12:24 PM
Like rufus said some blue on the side silver bits.

Are there any transfers you could use, nice flat surfaces for them?
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: Finlay on December 02, 2016, 10:20:20 AM
That's a good shout! I could utilise some eldar or dark eldar transfers. I think plopping a transfer on the front with some blue on the sides would finish it off.

Aldaris prefers the first 2 green ones, but I think the inked one is nicer.
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: FR1DAY on December 02, 2016, 04:06:45 PM
The inked one is better. Have you got any yellow ink? You could do a 50/50 mix with green ink and highlight the leading edges. Let it dry, then do a yellow only highlight at the edges. It'll lift the colour. I'd water the ink down with 20% water to to ease the transition. Finally a 50/50 watered down gloss nuln oil to finish and glaze them.
Also on transfers I put a coat of 'ard coat over them to seal them on prior to the last ink wash.
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: Finlay on December 02, 2016, 04:16:39 PM
thanks, I was unsure how to add highlights to it, but more ink seems a decent shout.

i've got blue, green, red, purple ink, plus nuln gloss.

I'm concerned nuln will darken it too much. Maybe doesn't matter.
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: FR1DAY on December 02, 2016, 07:58:41 PM
NUln oil will darken it but water it down first, that will limit the darkening.
To highlight you need a yellow ink really. You might have to pop to gw.
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: Finlay on December 02, 2016, 08:17:52 PM
Casandora yellow (shade)
Or lamenters yellow (glaze)?
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: FR1DAY on December 02, 2016, 09:39:29 PM
Ive not used the glaze range, might be to thin. Stick to the shade one
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: Finlay on December 04, 2016, 10:57:19 AM
I use the glaze for my admech and scourge models.

The shade yellow looks orange jn the pot!
But I got it. Will test today if I get some free time with kids.
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: FR1DAY on December 04, 2016, 06:57:23 PM
Wet the entire surface with a weak coat if green before you start to blend in the yellow. Work from edges in with the tip of brush.
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: Finlay on December 05, 2016, 10:27:23 AM
Matt whupped me in our 2nd game (which we actually finished).
He killed my light cruiser before it did anything, with an 8 damage burnthrough attack (6 criticals), which meant I just didn't have the variety and scope of firepower to respond.
I managed to kill both his cruisers, but his Shenlong Heavy cruiser was basically unscathed so dominated from turn4 onward once the rest were all fucked up.

I also messed up my movement on my strike carriers, and matt utilised the Scourge's faster movement to get more troops dropped to the surface.

While I can (and will) complain about Matt's flukey burnthrough roll to melt my light cruiser, he definitely outplayed me and deserved the win.

game took us 3 hours. (If we were short of time I'd have conceded after turn 4 I think). Hopefully 2.5 hours next time.

Think we'll swap back fleets back again next time, and then perhaps expand the points and/or try a different scenario.



My inked PHR ship looks better up close, but from the tabletop I think the stripey ones look better. You can barely see the blue detailing, or the yellow ink edges.
I'm wondering about striping the inked one in silver paint, then layer the yellow ink onto those stripes, to get inky yellow stripes?
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: Finlay on December 05, 2016, 10:34:18 AM
(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg88/nottsfootballfan/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20161204_202206.jpg)

(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg88/nottsfootballfan/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20161204_202216.jpg)

(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg88/nottsfootballfan/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20161204_205352.jpg)

(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg88/nottsfootballfan/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20161204_205400.jpg)
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: Midaski on December 05, 2016, 10:36:43 AM
What a great difference the mats and paint make - I doubt 'both' fleets were painted though ........................ that's my boy  :engel:
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: rufus sparkfire on December 05, 2016, 10:45:21 AM
Dropfleet t-shirt!

Nice photos! The yellow stripe ships do look better from a distance.

So are there bases or something on the planet that you have to drop the troops onto?
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: Finlay on December 05, 2016, 10:52:46 AM
I almost wore my t-shirt too! haha.

@Mids, the scourge fleet is totally finished. Nuln oiled- and silver highlighted last night just before the game. I wacked the first green ink layer on the PHR just so they'd look semi-painted during the game.

@Rufus, yup, have to drop troops onto the cardboard "clusters"- which have varying numbers of "sectors" inside them. It's how you score Victory points!

Matt also shot down one of my strike carriers (frigates which can drop troops) with the defence battery inside the military sector in the middle of the board. boo!
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: Midaski on December 05, 2016, 02:26:22 PM
@Mids, the scourge fleet is totally finished. Nuln oiled- and silver highlighted last night just before the game. I wacked the first green ink layer on the PHR just so they'd look semi-painted during the game.


Ah - both your fleets then - so painted.
I saw Matt's last weekend ........................... in their solid grey state  :engel:

Still he's quicker at writing army lists ..........................................
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: Finlay on December 24, 2016, 12:44:26 PM
I can't decide if I should do green and tan for my UCM, (like my tau) or blue and yellow (like my eldar).

blue feels a bit garish for them.
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: Finlay on January 25, 2017, 12:14:53 AM
(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg88/nottsfootballfan/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20170124_230618.jpg)

Highlights are sloppy,but I dig it.
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: GamesPoet on January 25, 2017, 01:22:08 AM
I like it! :icon_biggrin: :::cheers:::

Too bad the bases aren't clear, the black sticks out too much, especially when on the cool looking planet and moon maps.

And I see halfmen!
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: rufus sparkfire on January 25, 2017, 02:48:06 PM
That looks nice! Which fleet is that ship from? The same as the other green ones you did? It looks like a different style.
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: Finlay on January 25, 2017, 04:20:49 PM
It's UCM, normal humans.

The other was PHR, android futurey humans.

I can't decide on a scheme for them, so have stopped painting them!
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: rufus sparkfire on January 25, 2017, 04:36:26 PM
I like the design of the UCM one more than the PHR. It looks easier to paint too!
Title: Re: Drop Fleet Commander kickstarter (bfg/Andy chambers)
Post by: Finlay on January 28, 2017, 12:26:45 AM
"it can't die now unless I roll the worst cripple damage... Why did I say that?"

*Rolls dice*

*Worst cripple roll, ship dies"