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The Electors' Forum / A few questions (pictures included)
« on: July 20, 2008, 04:14:48 PM »
okay in my last game several events happened that me and my mate where unsure how to resolve(models used as proxy to illustrate the point)

okay heres the first. The issue arrose when his wardancers charged my archers, now the rules say that the closest model move into contact with the closest model which we get and then all his guys who can reach base to base with HIS model line up with them. after which my archers move into contact this is where the problem happened. i moved my archers into this position



now i thought that was okay because they where all in contact and that was the shortest move into position(plus to my advantage it keeps more prancers out of combat)

where as my mate thought that this was the correct placement, reason being he thought his prancers would make sure he got as many people in as possible, however the rulebook doesnt say i (the charged) have to maximise his contact, only that i have to bring as many into contact with an enemy.




now we all know the prancers will kill them anyway but the problem arrose because of the next picture





as you can see the treekin charged the detachment cause they could see them however because of my archer they would clip on a straight charge so they would have to wheel. now from what i can understand you only get one wheel on the charge and this wheel would cause the charge to miss as you can see from the yellow line.

so my questions really are what would happen.

cheers in advance

Nath

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The Parade Ground / 2000pts tourny list, need help balancing it
« on: July 12, 2008, 05:53:10 PM »
hi all this is my latest 2000pts list and im looking for advice on what to change and to to generally improve/streamline it.

so here we go

General                        215
arch lector
barded steed
sword of might
holy relic
heavy armour
shield

*i chose an arch lector for the magic defence and leadership. im not sure if i have equipped him well so advice is needed here. he will stay with the infantry line probably leading 3rd battalion greatswords to make best use of his hatred.

captain                            157
pegasus
lance
FPA
enchanted shield
doomfire ring

* for general harrassment,war machine and mage hunting bound spell for attacking down lines of missile troops

captain                            168
pegasus
lance
pistol
FPA
enchanted shield
casket of sorcery

* same as other pegasus but if i dont have a safe shot at killing a mage in cc (cause its in a unit or something similar) i hope to use the casket to weaken the enemy magic phase

1st Battalion                            333
30 swordsmen
F.C
w/9 swordsmen detachment
w/8 archer detachment

2nd battalion                           333
30 swordsmen
F.C
w/9 swordsmen detachment
w/8 archer detachment

3rd battalion                           398
25 greatswords
F.C
w/9 swordsmen detachment
w/8 archer detachment

* this i believe will give me a solid battle line, my questions are:
1 are the greatswords a good choice,
2 where should the arch lector go, the greatswords seem like the best option to make use of hatred, but being stubborn makes them a good choice for the flank when really i want the general in the centre to give leadership to the other two battalions. what do you think

cannon                     100

cannon                     100

5 knights                   115

total 1999
power 2
dispel  4


so what do you think? should i drop the knights and shuffle some point to get a warrior priest in there? should i swap out the greatswords for normal swordsmen, it would save alot of points?


this list needs to be able to take on all comers, from dragons(i think ill struggle against these) to giants to hordes. i cant help but think that ive nbot got enough tricks and gadgets to supprise my opponent

thanks in advance

Nath

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The Count's Tavern / special edition models
« on: February 07, 2007, 04:15:16 PM »
whilst rooting through my mess (read: warhammer) I found:

a marco columbo model

one of those night gobbo models where they are throwing the other out of the unit

and one of the josef bugman models only available from bugmans bar

my question is are these worth anything and if they are what part of the world

Cheers

Nath

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The Electors' Forum / marco columbo
« on: February 07, 2007, 04:12:50 PM »
where about can i find his stats? are they in the lustria book?

Nath

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The Electors' Forum / Mage on barded steed in Knights?
« on: January 30, 2007, 08:17:39 PM »
Is it a good idea to put a amythest mage in a unit of five knights? is it potentially good (mobility and lore of death are useful together) or a daft idea?

if I do how should i equip him (lv2 mage)

I am also interested in your past experiances with such a charecter

cheers

Nath

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The Brush and Palette / my blog kinda thingy
« on: January 30, 2007, 07:15:55 PM »
okay basically rather than me posting a new thread every time i want you guys to critisise my mini's i thought i would make this blog typee think where you guys can advise/comment

firstly we have my first ever attempt at NMM on this greatsword, this is the test subject and is still wip, i was hoping to have you guys let me know what you think of it





does it need another highlight?

secondly we have a repost of my tracker, this time with a clearer picture



and here is the wip member of the trackers with a small green stuff tutorial

step1 find the likely subject :icon_twisted:


step2 start by applying the GS to the model roughly by hand on the front and back (whack a blob on it :icon_smile:)



step3 now i used clay shapers to ease it out and cover the model so that it seemed to be wearing a flak vest



step4 this is a comparison of what i was trying to make(not exactly just similar)


step5using a tapered point clay shaper a drew some lines in the jacket in a loop style to make it look like a "baggy top". so i drew the lines and pushed them down slightly to make it look as though it was weighted (gravity :icon_rolleyes:)


step6back shot, again just some lines as eventually it will be covered by a cloak


step7the near finished model, all that is to be added is the cloak but that can wait



Thats it for now, let me know what you think. i have some more pictures to post and someother things in the works

Nath

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The Electors' Forum / Way watchers
« on: January 28, 2007, 07:22:48 PM »
my main opponent has recentley started taking waywatchers in unit size of 7. They are the be all end all of beards, I mean, I know the weeds are very powerful but flaming hammer of sigmar they are nasty.

my problem is that he normally targets my knights with them. Now they are already immensely powerful for their cost with their high BS but when im in short range they killing blow me! this means my small units of knights get decimated and i really need them for their mobility and punch against weeds and after that they just harrass me.

i have tried using handgunners to shoot them but hitting on 7's(long range skirmish and their damnable rule) means that i need not bother. I have contemplating using pistoliers but came to the conclusion it would never work.
the only time i have managed to kill one is when my galloper gun had a shot on one

My question to you, my fellow Empire generals is, how do you/would you counter them, do you have a specific unit in mind? Im relatively sure i can force his deployment(He'll go to where my knights are) so that may help.

best regards

Nath

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The Electors' Forum / Maneaters
« on: January 25, 2007, 02:37:13 PM »
okay at the moment i am working on some man eaters converted from ogre bulls for my empire army and i have a few questions

are they worth there points? if i take a unit of three are they worth it in a otherwise balanced list

does anyone use a brace of handguns? im thinking that with there speed and the ability to use handguns like pistols (oh yes no long range  :biggriin:) im thinking they could make quite good mage hunters and having the extra attack is nice (5 str5 attacks  :biggriin:)

would i be better off taking ogre bulls?

cheers

nath


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The Count's Tavern / official warhammer forums
« on: January 21, 2007, 03:36:51 PM »
can somebody link me too the official GW forums, i cant find them through there site anymore

cheers

nath

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The Count's Tavern / UK suppliers of spyglass minitures
« on: January 20, 2007, 07:06:41 PM »
does anybody know of any suppliers of spyglass minitures other than these

http://www.gamers-quest.co.uk/acatalog/Spyglass.html

http://www.arcaneminiatures.co.uk/spyglass.asp

http://www.heresyminiatures.com/buyit2.htm

as these never seem to have any in stock

cheers

nath

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The Electors' Forum / my local GW's explanation for DoW not being mentioned
« on: January 20, 2007, 06:51:23 PM »
so here it is i walk into GW and ask about DoW,
me: whats happening with DoW
bloke: they are still legal
me: oh because there is no mention of them in the NEB or the NOB
bloke goes and checks the NOB and then comes up with this explanation
bloke: its because the new books are designed so  that when you make or design a tourny list you can take whatever is in the book without having to check several different sources before finding out ifit is legal to take those choices or not. DoW have never been legal tourny options
i presume he means GT style

anyway that seemed to explain it for me but i would like to see an errata explaining DoW in detail

Nath

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The Parade Ground / 2000 pts list made to be a balanced tourney style list
« on: January 17, 2007, 08:43:28 PM »
im not actually entering a tournament but id like to have a balanced list for when i go down to GW this saturday.

so here it goes

arch lector 186
barded war horse
heavy armour
sword of might enchanted shield
i dont particulary want to take an arch lector but they seem to be the best option really out of all of them and he adds two dice to my dispel pool
leads swordsmen

warrior priest 119
two warhammers
AoMI
i just got the new model so it has to be on foot with two hammers, main reason for this guy is the hatred ability
leads greatswords

captain
halberd
pistol
FPA
doomfire ring
this guy is here to add support to any of my infantry units, should i drop the doomfire ring? im thinking that 3 prayers plus the doomfire ring should be enough for a stable magic phase

well thats it for charecters, should i try and wedge a mage in there or will that be enough defence and power for a stable magic phase?

1st battalion (phoenix battalion) 276
25 swordsmen
f.c
w/ 9 halberdier det
w/ 7 archer det

5 knights 115
5 knights 115

10 handgunners 105
marksman w/HLR
w/ 5 handgunner det 40

3rd battalion (to be named) 381
25 greatswords
f.c
w/ 9 halberdier det
w/ 7 archer det

5 pistoliers 114
musician
champ w/repeater pistol

greatcannon100

6 outriders 147
champw/ HLR

bronzino galloper gun 165

its supposed to be a balanced list with a gunpowder theme, id prefer it to have an engineer and general with blackpowder weapons than an arch lector but im worried that that theme would just be to suicidal

anyway opinions are appreciated

nath

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The Electors' Forum / hochland fluff
« on: January 16, 2007, 08:48:30 PM »
im thinking about repainting my old army to be hochland and i need all the fluff possible on them including favoured weapons most commen troops fluff on elite units like the jaegerkorps(specifically them)

so far all i have found is

Quote
Hochland is a fictional province within The Empire in Warhammer Fantasy Battles. The state colours of Hochland are red and green. Its capital is the city of Hergig.

Hochland is covered almost completely in dense forest. Its people are famous for their skill with the bow and for Leon Todmeister’s deadly long rifle which was developed from firearms used by the province’s rangers and hunters. Nevertheless, Hochland is a superstitious and backwards place, where the worship of Taal, Rhya and even the nature spirits of the Old Faith is still very strong.

The Middle Mountains lie along one border; no Dwarf holds can be found there, but instead they are infested with Beastmen, trolls and other monsters. The border with the province of Ostland has been much disputed and Hochland must constantly be on guard against its larger neighbour. Sokh and Krudenwald are two villages in the Darkwald Forrest part of Hochland. The Emperor's Hammer and The Red Bear are fortified couching inns on the road to Middenheim. Fort Schippel is one of the castles along the border with Middenland.

The Elector Count of Hochland, Aldebrand Ludenhof, lives in a fortified palace in the centre of the capital Hergig. His son Konrad is the named heir. The Elector has a passion for hunting, and his collection of hawks is unrivalled. This love of hunting is a common trait in all Hochlanders; the nobility in particular spend more time at their forest hunting lodges than they do anywhere else.

Hochland fights many battles against the Beastmen of the forests, though these are more skirmishes than open warfare. They have been aided many times by the Knights of the Blazing Sun, most famously when Gorthor the Cruel almost razed the entire province. The Jaegerkorps, an elite group of marksmen armed with the dreaded Long Rifle, are a key component of the province’s defence – the severed, goat-like heads and flayed hides arrayed outside every settlement are a grim testament to their efficacy.
from the wiki
can anybody point me to some other sources?

cheers

nath

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The Electors' Forum / The Biggest Bang for Your Bucks!
« on: January 16, 2007, 02:53:21 PM »
i decided i wanted to try out Bronzino's galloper guns with my Army and rather than buying them i converted them

heres a Wip Bronzino (he'll probably get renamed to match my fluff)



question: how would i go about adding that mohawk style plume he has on the GW mini using GS? would i be best making a mini armature for it?

the galloper gun





full shot



its still Wip so any comments and advice are welcome

what do you think?

nath

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The Brush and Palette / converted empire tracker
« on: January 10, 2007, 03:21:05 PM »
this is my converted empire Tracker, ingame id probably use him as a huntsman marksman but seeing as ill never use them he will probably end up as an archer, anyway onto the pics

firstly let me say im not the best painter and my camera is pretty crap.







what do you think? and sorry for the bad pics :unsure:

nath

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The Electors' Forum / free for all elector count
« on: January 08, 2007, 07:28:58 PM »
with the NEB release my local GW is doing an empire day with a conversion contest, speed painting contest and a free for all battle

now for the conversion contest i was working on a tracker (hes almost finished, just needs painting and then ill post some pics if anyones interested) but then i found out the model has to be made from the NE general box set, which is gutting seeing as i spent all of the last two nights on my tracker but anyway.

this is where i need help, in the free for all AfAIK (the GW dudes are sketchy at the best of times :dry:) everyone who shows up will use there model and fight in a big battle, now im guessing that means everyone vs everyone so i need some help choosing some good equipment so advice, opinions and help with regards to tactics are appreciated

p.s there is no total points limit

general
pistol: if im unlucky enough to get charged my BS 5 means i should hit on 4's wound on 4's and then it depends whatarmour they have got
runefang: hitting on fours means 1.5 hits that can only be saved if the dude has a ward save, meaning this leaves little room for combat error
barded steed: for the armour boost and mobility
full plate armour
shield

this is my first draft what do you think?

should i swap the rune fang for the mace of helsturm and a ward save the mace increasing chances of a one round kill?

cheers for the help

nath



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The Electors' Forum / quick rules Q
« on: January 03, 2007, 12:53:54 PM »
has the re-directing charges rule gone? in my game last night a situation arose where we had to check up on the rules and i couldnt find them at all

if it has been removed that makes archer screens amazing

nath

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The Electors' Forum / pistoliers or outriders
« on: January 01, 2007, 12:31:33 PM »
with the new pistol combat rules they have lost there appeal to me so i was wondering if anyone has any advise on using them

or should i just make another unit of outriders?

nath

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The Parade Ground / 300pts tourney list
« on: December 31, 2006, 07:00:46 PM »
this is my 3000pts tourney list, i was hoping you could rate, advise, critisise and change




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characters                        1067
======================================

General 194
sword of sigismund
holy relic
fullplate armour
shield
pistol
*leads 1st battalion swordsmen

wizard lord 305
luck stone
power stone
dispel scroll
ring of volans
lv 4
* where should i put him?

warrior priest 156
barded steed
shield
dawn armour
sword of might
*leads innercircle knights

warrior priest 144
additional hand weapon
Armour of meteoric iron
sigil of sigmar
*joins 1st or 2nd battalion swordsmen please advise who should go where

captain 118
halberd
pistol
full plate armour
rod of command
*joins 1st or 2nd battalion swordsmen please advise who should go where

wizard 150
lv2
2 dispel scrolls
* where should he go

======================================
core                               778
======================================
1st battalion 279

25 swordsmen
F.C

w/8 halberdier detachment
w/7 archer detachment


2nd battalion  279
25 swordsmen
F.C

w/8 halberdier detachment
w/7 archer detachment

10 hangunners 105
musician
marksman w/ HLR

5 knights 115
great weapons

======================================
special                            711
======================================

5 outriders 105
outrider champion

5 pistoliers 107
outrider w/ repeater pistol

cannon 100

9 innercircle knights 324
F.C
banner of the daemon slayer

mortar 75

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rare                               410
======================================

steamtank 300

helblaster volley gun 110

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total
======================================

points: 2966
remaining: 34
power dice: 8
dispel dice:7
dispel scrolls:3

thanks for taking the time to read through this. all help is appreciated

nath

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