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awesome. thnx. when will i need to be at my comp to follow this btw?

                              human                   
movement                     4 (fleet)                       
weapon skill                  46 *               
ballistic skill                   27                 
strength                        3                 
toughness                     3                 
wounds                         6                 
initiative                        38               
attacks                           1             
dexterity                       33               
leadership                    26                 
intelligence                   23               
cool                              32               
willpower                     28               
fellowship                   23                 

fate points                        4                 
number of starting skills    3                   

Warrior

Career – noble

Friedrich von Hersting
Age: 20 (my actual age)
curly Brown hair and blueish grey eyes, big manly moustache
6' 2" my dads height, about 13st

Noble advance scheme:
WS+10*
BS+10
W+2
I+10
Dex+10
Ld+20
Cl+10
Fel+10

Career exits:
bawd
duellist
freelance
gambler
student

Equipment:
Horse!
expensive clothes (colours of purple, grey and black)
8 gold crowns
jewelry worth 41 gold crowns
Warrior equipment:
clothes
backpack with tankard, cutlery, tinderbox and blanket
Rapier
knife
helmet (1 armour point on head)

Skills:
blather  (can distract someone by talking nonsense to them)
charm   (+10% to Fel tests when trying to be charming)
ettiquette   (know how to behave in high society)
heraldry  (know about heraldry)
luck  (can modify any dice roll you make by +-1 or +-10%, d6 times a day. But you don't know how many times you can use it (secret roll))
read/write (read and write!)
ride  (can ride a horse)
wit   (+10% to bluff and gossip tests)
public speaking  (can make speeches to crowds)
specialist weapon: fencing sword (lets you use a rapier, which has +20 to your I but does -1 damage)
fleet footed (+1 M. Add this to your profile)
dodge blow (can dodge in combat: I test to avoid all damage from an attack you see coming)
sing (you can sing!)

Friedrich fancies himself as a dapper gent but somehow his sword always ends up doing the talking (assuming I get a sword), and his sword has an extremely limited and painful vocabulary. This lead to him accidently killing a rival for his betrothed’s affections when he was provoked to rage during a duelling sesh. When people saw him still hacking at the man’s corpse in a blind rage he feared the noose and to add insult to injury when he asked his betrothed to run away with him she (rather sensibly) declined. So here he is running away, totally oblivious to the fact that the man he killed was discovered to be a mutant and he is therefore off the hook. Still he hopes somehow find absolution and has recently become obsessed with the cult of sigmar in the hopes of saving his soul.

His horse is called Grane.

                              human                   
movement                     3                       
weapon skill                  36                 
ballistic skill                   27                 
strength                        3                 
toughness                     3                 
wounds                         6                 
initiative                        38               
attacks                           1             
dexterity                       33               
leadership                    26                 
intelligence                   23               
cool                              32               
willpower                     28               
fellowship                   23                 

fate points                        4                 
number of starting skills    3                   

Warrior

Skill rolls 39-22-82

Career – noble

Friedrich von Hersting
Age: 20 (my actual age)
curly Brown hair and blueish grey eyes, big manly moustache
6' 2" my dads height, about 13st

Friedrich fancies himself as a dapper gent but somehow his sword always ends up doing the talking (assuming I get a sword), and his sword has an extremely limited and painful vocabulary. This lead to him accidently killing a rival for his betrothed’s affections when he was provoked to rage during a duelling sesh. When people was him still hacking at the man’s corpse in a blind rage he feared the noose and to add insult to injury when he asked his betrothed to run away with him she (rather sensibly) declined. So here he is running away, totally oblivious to the fact that the man he killed was discovered to be a mutant and he is therefore off the hook. Still he hopes somehow find absolution and has recently become obsessed with the cult of sigmar in the hopes of saving his soul.

so give him stuff that makes him more survivable. Then hopefully u will have won the combat before the challenge even ends.

Im not sure of the exact points but the only mistake if any will be in the handgunner units. i will group together units with their respective characters, except the ones that dont have characters.


TGM, shield, sword of power, talisman of protection, the other tricksters shard.

7 reiksguard knights, FC

Captain of the empire, FP, Shield, Sword of battle, horse barding.


Warrior priest, crown of command, shrieking blade.

20 halbs FC


lvl 2 wizard, lore o fire, ring of volans (lore of metal and if i dont get final trans i always just take the signiature)

8 handgunners, marksman, brace of pistols.


10 handgunners marksman, brace of pistols.

great cannon

5 pistoliers, outrider repeater pistol.

I know its a rough list but i have had mostly successes with it, although that may say more about the quality of my opponents. What is your opinion and can i improve the list without having to significantly change its make up.


Optional opinions on my next 500pts aswell if ur up for it and how you think i should deploy them.

30 spearmen fc

14 crossbowmen

another cannon

character of some sort? suggestions?

i havent totted up the points for this part at all.

Okay i'll start from the top.

Your general is in with the halbs i presume seeing as they are the most likely to run. Youve given him some fairly basic gear which will help him in combat but by no means make him a tank. I tend to maximise potential where i can so i would be tempted to say dont bother with might. +1 S will not really help you if the enemy decides he really wants to kill your general so instead i would give him the shrieking blade. This gives him fear enhancing the possibility of the combi charge being super successful and even if an unlucky combat leaves you bogged down it can save you in later turns assuming your steadfast holds out. other than that you could remove the pistol just to save a few points but it wont matter much.

The wizard lord. I find that dispel scrolls just tend not to matter because they cant save you from an irresistable. if you really want to stop a spell just sink all your dispel dice into it, so you could save points there by dropping the scroll.

A captain is a captain no complaints there.

The WP is with the knights yes? Okay i would drop the hammer and give him a sheild getting the +1 to your save then drop his magic items in favour of the crown of command. Makes your knights stubborn, whats not to like. Protect him instead by not charging enemy characters or accepting challenges with the unit. I noticed that none of your characters are really hard as old biscuits as i think you tend to rely instead on he effectiveness of your units thus i am so far advising you to take items that i think will increase your units potential.

no further complaints till the handgunners. Give the marksman a pair of pistols and heres why. The rule for stand and shoot states that the range at which you count at shooting is the maximum range of the units shortest ranged weapon. The pistol puts this at 12" negating the minus one for standing and shooting.

finally the helblaster. have you considered just taking another cannon.

back to the wizard for a moment, if you took another cannon you could ignore the wizards high strength lore in favour of a more buff related lore to further enhance your army. Although i will admit that comet of cassandra's mum is fantastic.

Thats it really. it is a good list. It just surprises me to find characters being used the way you do. I tend to use my characters or should i say character (a TGM) as a sledgehammer. seriously i run a unit of knights with three characters in it. The unit has never been defeated to this day.

Simply put there are several things you can do aswell.

1. dont take such weak detachments. put the two tens into one 20 man unit 5 wide.
2. if you want to charge you need your detachments up with ur unit obv but if u play wait for the charge then put them back about 3" but within an inch of the parent.
3. put a character with the crown of command in the parent unit. it gives the unit stubborn and thanks to the new detachment rules ur dments get stubborn too.

you can still lose of course but cold blooded ld 9/8 stubborn re-rollable is going to be damn impossible to break. i find the ring of volans using the lore of metsl signiature spell will take care of most armies knights.