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True, but epic models were terrible.  No charm.  Just poop.

And anyone looking for epic needs to be playing appocolypse!

I can't agree with any of that.

The second edition Epic models are excellent, and so are the current plastics.  Even the current range, while not as good, are not that bad when you consider their age.

Apocalypse is, in my view, a terrible game.  Epic has a far superior rules design, and new players will now no longer be able to get into it, unless they go down the proxy route.  Of course, if they don't know any different, this may not be a problem, but much will depend on the aesthetic of the proxies, especially if they are familiar with other GW systems, such as 40K.

There's discussion of rumours, general discussion about what people think of certain units (i.e. not specific tactical discussion), and opinions about the rules/the game/the army.  This is general discussion.

Rules questions saying does x do this?  Or can I do y? don't, in my view, belong in general discussion.  They belong in their own separate board.  At the moment they're getting swallowed up by all the general discussion threads, so would, in my view, be better off in a separate board.

There really are not that many boards here.  If you take out the campaign boards, both archived, and current, this is one of the smallest forums I visit (in terms of the number of boards), so if that's the primary concern with creating a new board, then I think that it's an unnecessary one.

That's much better.  Thank you.

Your Word Bearers army is amazing.  Superbly modelled and painted.

If I could paint like that then perhaps I wouldn't have abandoned my own project.  It's really good work on your part.

It's a very good roleplay system, and makes for a very interesting read, but I was disappointed by the number of typos, and other spelling errors in the main book, which put me off buying any more.  For the price you pay, the proof reading was of a very poor standard in my opinion.

I really like that conversion.  The much more ferocious head combined with the old body works out quite well, even though he's perhaps a touch stunted for an Orc.  He makes for quite a characterful leader.

Could an admin please turn these buttons on?  They're a standard SMF feature, and they make getting back to the top of a thread much quicker after you've just posted.

I read a lot of 'the sky is falling' posts about the Eldar, and it really isn't true.  All the new rules have really done to the Eldar is, thankfully, make fully mechanised reserve lists using the awful DAVU a thing of the past.  This is a good thing in my view, as it was a very boring way to play, and even more boring to face.

There has been a lot of constructive discussion about how to get the best out of the Eldar elsewhere, and there are more options in the book which are worthwhile now, particularly with the changes to the way in which shooting works, with some static Eldar fire support units, such as Dark Reapers, becoming more of a threat (think overwatch), and the aforementioned boost to the sniping rules to benefit Rangers and Pathfinders.

Eldar lose out in the assault phase, but they're not the only ones to have been hit by this.

Vehicles needed to take a hit to improve the balance between infantry and vehicles, so I would see this as an opportunity to field more balanced Eldar armies.

Finally, a new book is needed, but not so desperately that it's impossible to win with the Eldar in the meantime.

Warwalkers are very efficient units.  I love mine, all with twin scatter lasers, they rip apart even marines reasonably well, if guided and doomed 

How are you finding guardians?  I really struggle to see why I would want to use them, they end up being just wound counters for one horribly inaccurate heavy weapon.

You've contradicted yourself to a certain extent here, in that you're singing the praises of War Walkers armed with Scatter Lasers (rightly in my view), yet Guardian squads can perform a similar fire support role when equipped with a Scatter Laser, and it takes more fire power on your opponent's part to neutralise a Guardian squad than one War Walker, for example.  The Guardians also have the advantage of being able to score, which is important not to overlook.

They are only wound counters if you use them in that way.  You can't just hold back against all armies throughout the game, as this isn't playing to the unit's strength.  Being able to move and fire a heavy weapon is their bonus.  Other Eldar fire support infantry, such as Rangers and Dark Reapers, don't have that luxury.  The idea with Guardians is to soften up the opposition first with other units, and then have them move up in support.  Will it always work?  No, because Guardians are fragile, and are vulnerable to certain types of attack which are difficult to protect them from (deep strikes being the most obvious), but it's always worth considering, as Guardians need not be immobile 'wounds' as you put it, that's just one (inefficient) way of using them.

I need to assemble and paint lots of Dire Avengers if I want to field them as a true Biel Tan force.

No you don't.  Never was there a more false representation of how Eldar craftworlds are comprised than the third edition supplementary craftworld codex.  For more details take a look here.  In fact, Biel-Tan is the craftworld which is closest to what you might call a 'vanilla' concept, i.e. as long as Aspect Warriors are in the majority overall, it doesn't matter which other unit types you field.

Definitely looking at the codex, guardians don't seem to be worth the points investment. I was never overly fond of them with the old codex, other than the fact that they were a better choice that Dire Avengers.

The only issue is the range of their Shuriken Catapults is six inches too short.  I've play tested them extensively with an 18" range, and it solves all of their problems.  For ways in which to use them see my comments above.

I'm hoping that 6th edition will give Eldar a little boost. Hopefully they'll be one of early Codex for 6th as well. It's been a while since we've had a new book now. One of the oldest if I'm not mistaken.

I beleive they are the oldest 4th edition codex still around Delthos.

The Tau codex is definitely older by a few months.  I'm also pretty sure that the Black Templars codex is the oldest of the current crop.

Nicholas Bies: I don't write army lists for people, as it isn't of much help to impose my play style on others.  Build the list that you think you would like to field, and I'll offer advice accordingly .

The link I promised earlier.  It's very comprehensive, and you may not want to go into so much detail, but it's worth reading as much of it as you can if you want to create a credible background.

It's a bit lacking in depth in my opinion.  I think that you would also benefit from reading a bit more about the history of the Maiden Worlds in the codex.

There is a very good article on designing your own craftworld on 40K Online, but the site's down at the moment, so I'll have to link you to it another time.

Ah, now I understand.  Thanks for aiding my befuddled brain .  I missed the first link for some odd reason.

The Krell and Kremmler campaign was a good campaign at a time when the Vampire Counts book had become far too strongly geared towards Vampires in my opinion, particularly in terms of the lack of variety in terms of the options for special characters (i.e. Vampire characters or nothing).

GW missed a trick in my opinion by not making this a Chaos Knight.  To my mind, it's not a Daemon Engine at all, but then I view Daemon Engines from the perspective of Epic, not 40K (they have no place in regular games of 40K in my opinion, since they are [or should be] simply too large).

The model itself is okay, although it's a bit too much like a glorified Dreadnought for my tastes.