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Offline Syn Ace

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Re: GW paints
« Reply #25 on: August 18, 2015, 05:05:26 PM »
I should just take paint swatches from the colors I use most and go down to Home Depot and get them to mix them up for me as test samples. I did that with my old Blue Grey, which is an old GW color they haven't made in a long, long, long time. I've been using it for my Space Wolves army for years. When they stopped making Blue Grey, I didn't want to run out halfway through my army, so off to the store I went. Home Depot used their color matching machine to mix up a batch of interior paint and I got 8 fl oz (236 ml) of paint for $3.00. GW sells the stuff for $4 for 12 ml. I had my old batch for years and it started to dry, so I just took the lid with the computer formula on it back to Home Depot and presto, had a new batch for $3. The only problem is, you wouldn't want to do lots of them as storage might be an issue.
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Re: GW paints
« Reply #26 on: August 18, 2015, 07:29:37 PM »
Some GW paints dry out immediately, others last years.

By the way, if any of you want old GW paint, just buy Coat D'arms.
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Re: GW paints
« Reply #27 on: August 18, 2015, 09:46:11 PM »
I should just take paint swatches from the colors I use most and go down to Home Depot and get them to mix them up for me as test samples. I did that with my old Blue Grey, which is an old GW color they haven't made in a long, long, long time. I've been using it for my Space Wolves army for years. When they stopped making Blue Grey, I didn't want to run out halfway through my army, so off to the store I went. Home Depot used their color matching machine to mix up a batch of interior paint and I got 8 fl oz (236 ml) of paint for $3.00. GW sells the stuff for $4 for 12 ml. I had my old batch for years and it started to dry, so I just took the lid with the computer formula on it back to Home Depot and presto, had a new batch for $3. The only problem is, you wouldn't want to do lots of them as storage might be an issue.

Sounds like a great idea - how was the quality of the paint you got?

Shadow Grey and Space Wolf Grey were great colors. Another bunch that I miss.

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Re: GW paints
« Reply #29 on: August 18, 2015, 10:16:33 PM »
Thanks, honey!

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Re: GW paints
« Reply #30 on: August 18, 2015, 10:24:26 PM »
I use the GW paint pots. I don't use a pallet, I pretty much paint right out of the pots.
I add water to the pots as soon as I buy them

I would not recommend doing this! Although the GW paints are water based they most likely also contain glycerol or other additives. The purpose of those additives are to ensure that the pigment particles (which I'm guessing are latex based) remain in solution. Latex does not dissolve in water and you may see aggregation of the paint particles if enough water is added. Besides, water evaporates quite quickly compared to glycerol. You may have noticed that the white is especially prone to drying out and that is because white paint contains a high amount of large pigment particles.

I don't know about this. Sometimes the GW paints are kinda dry when you buy them so you have to add water.

I guess the best solution is to just not use GW paints. lol.
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Offline Syn Ace

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Re: GW paints
« Reply #31 on: August 18, 2015, 11:32:40 PM »
I should just take paint swatches from the colors I use most and go down to Home Depot and get them to mix them up for me as test samples. I did that with my old Blue Grey, which is an old GW color they haven't made in a long, long, long time. I've been using it for my Space Wolves army for years. When they stopped making Blue Grey, I didn't want to run out halfway through my army, so off to the store I went. Home Depot used their color matching machine to mix up a batch of interior paint and I got 8 fl oz (236 ml) of paint for $3.00. GW sells the stuff for $4 for 12 ml. I had my old batch for years and it started to dry, so I just took the lid with the computer formula on it back to Home Depot and presto, had a new batch for $3. The only problem is, you wouldn't want to do lots of them as storage might be an issue.

Sounds like a great idea - how was the quality of the paint you got?

Shadow Grey and Space Wolf Grey were great colors. Another bunch that I miss.

Great. I had no problems. I'll post some photos later. I've only had Blue Grey and Space Wolf Grey mixed up.
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Offline Syn Ace

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Re: GW paints
« Reply #32 on: August 19, 2015, 02:42:12 AM »
Here's my giant pot of paint courtesy of Home Depot and a model painted with it (still needs a bit more shading and highlighting). Going large works great when you have a lot of vehicles to paint.


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Re: GW paints
« Reply #33 on: August 19, 2015, 08:19:43 PM »
Thank you! Looks good indeed. Maybe I'll give that a try for terrain.

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Re: GW paints
« Reply #34 on: August 19, 2015, 10:07:26 PM »
My mate does this for terrain, he has bought 5 litre pots of "Charadon Granite" and the two browns that were sold in the kit for the Realm of Battle. Not sure I'd use it directly on minis, though I use it on bases.

I find some of the GW paints set around the outside of the pot given half a chance. It varies from colour to colour. My solution is to look after my paints better - add some water to each one and give it a good shake now and then and they will last longer.

I have a stockpile of Foundation paints and some of my favourite other colours from the previous range. They will run out one day :( And for the record I bought a Coat d'Arms turquoise this year and it does not match my pot from 1991 well at all!  :-o

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Re: GW paints
« Reply #35 on: August 19, 2015, 10:19:40 PM »
I don't know why GW is changing its paints so often. It's a bit annoying.

Though the true Dark Age of Dry Paint was the period with the screwtops. The current design works for me. Maybe I'm just lucky with the pots I've bought so far.

Offline knightofthelance

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Re: GW paints
« Reply #36 on: August 20, 2015, 12:23:09 AM »
House paint and craft paint is all I use for terrain, and sometimes for bases. I really like to find the stuff that wasn't mixed quite right as it is cheap. and you don't always need a specific color, just one that looks good.

Offline Syn Ace

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Re: GW paints
« Reply #37 on: August 20, 2015, 12:23:48 AM »
I find with the new pots, the ones with the nub on the back you can pop to prop it open, once popped, the lid seems to ride high at the hinge. Don't know if it's letting air in or not.
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Re: GW paints
« Reply #38 on: August 20, 2015, 02:17:57 AM »
Not sure I'd use it directly on minis, though I use it on bases.


I've only had two different ones mixed up and the stuff I have works great on my space marines--can't tell the difference. You can thin it down with water just like the GW stuff. Haven't tried any other colors. I also have a couple of bottles of craft paints that work ok once I put a GW foundation or base paint down first.
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Re: GW paints
« Reply #39 on: August 24, 2015, 07:13:53 PM »
So GW bring out airbrush paints?



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Re: GW paints
« Reply #40 on: August 24, 2015, 07:20:55 PM »
Do they sell an airbrush?
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Re: GW paints
« Reply #41 on: August 24, 2015, 07:49:30 PM »
They had that "hand flamer" airbrush thing with a pistol grip. Does that count, and is it still available?


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Re: GW paints
« Reply #42 on: August 24, 2015, 07:52:45 PM »
The hand flamer thing was marketed as a spray gun, and it's rubbish. I've used it, you have to keep swapping the bottles over because they get cold and you lose pressure. They're also expensive - over time a decent airbrush/compressor will be only slightly more expensive and an awful lot better.

To be honest GW tools are not their strongpoint, even if they did sell an airbrush I wouldn't buy one. Go with the known brands, lots and lots of videos on youtube about selecting, using and caring for an airbrush.

Offline SoonerSox

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Re: GW paints
« Reply #43 on: August 26, 2015, 02:46:10 AM »
How can they sell airbrush paints in pots? The ease of use with Vallejo model air and game air dropper bottles is exactly what airbrush users need to cut down on waste. Further more just altering the consistency is only one factor in the equation. GW pigments aren't ground as finely as Vallejo so even if you use airbrush thinner, your airbrush will clog with GW paints.

I really like the colors that GW has but I've attempted to use them with Vallejo thinner in my airbrush and even with a decent size needle (.5) they don't perform very well. One can only hope that these new paints aren't just thinned down versions of the originals.

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Re: GW paints
« Reply #44 on: August 26, 2015, 03:21:37 AM »
I get it with specific paints. Averland Sunset is the worst offender for me. It's like porridge.

Ah! So I'm not the only one dealing with this. I was going to say that it's like sludge, or that it looks like a wet sponge but oat meal (porridge) is much better.

EDIT: As for paints drying out I have only had that happen with white or off white paints.
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Re: GW paints
« Reply #45 on: August 26, 2015, 07:34:36 AM »
I get it with specific paints. Averland Sunset is the worst offender for me. It's like porridge.

Ah! So I'm not the only one dealing with this. I was going to say that it's like sludge, or that it looks like a wet sponge but oat meal (porridge) is much better.

EDIT: As for paints drying out I have only had that happen with white or off white paints.

You're really not. Last night I fought my Averland Sunset bottle. God it was way too thick, like..well, right, like porridge.

I also hate the metallic paints. Not the silver ones but the richer ones, like gehenna gold and that brass one. It's like water and oil together. Half of the bottle is the color which is, of course, settled on the bottom, and the other half is oily, very light, substance.
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Re: GW paints
« Reply #46 on: August 26, 2015, 10:41:21 PM »
You have to shake the bottle.

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Re: GW paints
« Reply #47 on: August 27, 2015, 07:27:22 AM »
On the subject of GW paints



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Re: GW paints
« Reply #48 on: August 27, 2015, 09:13:08 AM »


That's NOT paint.
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Re: GW paints
« Reply #49 on: August 27, 2015, 10:52:33 AM »
Trying to ressurect my old scorched brown.

That could almost be a euphemism.
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