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Offline Hagen_von_Loewenstein

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A nice little vid for all you Kislev-fans...
« on: June 11, 2006, 08:15:16 PM »
Found this on youtube.com, thought someone else would also like it :D Nice "Ulan"-feeling in the second half :)

Enjoy.

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Re: A nice little vid for all you Kislev-fans...
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2006, 09:02:13 PM »
Nice :-D

Which movie are those scenes from, and what were those guys talking about? My language skills don't reach far past Dutch, English and German.
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Re: A nice little vid for all you Kislev-fans...
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2006, 09:23:21 PM »
Haha nice hair cuts. Very nice! :lol:


oh look the gryphon legion is there :D
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Re: A nice little vid for all you Kislev-fans...
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2006, 10:16:36 PM »
Obviously can't understand a word but i could actually do with seeing the whole film :-D
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Re: A nice little vid for all you Kislev-fans...
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2006, 10:22:45 PM »
Neat. Where is it from? It looks like a television production to me. Some subtitles would be nice, and one would think they would be needed originally as well, since I assume the Turks in the end are speaking Turkish. Or at least I think they are Turks, I may very well be wrong.
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Re: A nice little vid for all you Kislev-fans...
« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2006, 10:57:28 PM »
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Polish Commonwealth home-war. Ukrainian Cossacs rise against the adelsrepublik and battle the polish-lithuanian loyalists.
So I really don't think there'll be Turks involved. :-D
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Re: A nice little vid for all you Kislev-fans...
« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2006, 11:43:29 PM »
Right, it's probably a Khan of some sort.

I think I read about some polish/russian(?) movie called "With Fire and Sword" on this very website some looooong time ago, maybe that's where it's from?

EDIT: 'twas! Behold!
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Re: A nice little vid for all you Kislev-fans...
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2006, 05:15:55 AM »
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Polish Commonwealth home-war. Ukrainian Cossacs rise against the adelsrepublik and battle the polish-lithuanian loyalists.
So I really don't think there'll be Turks involved. :-D

Khans ruled Crimea and would have paid tribute to the Ottomans at this point so Turks could be involved.  But from their duds and their language I agree that these are most definitely Khans.

My favorite thing about Eastern European film is that everybody speaks their own language, and these clips demonstrate that well. There are, what, three languages in these clips? I hate how our North American movies at best have the actors try to approximate an accent, or at worst just speak with some kind of Simon Schama lilt.

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Re: A nice little vid for all you Kislev-fans...
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2006, 10:17:08 AM »
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Khans ruled Crimea and would have paid tribute to the Ottomans at this point so Turks could be involved.  But from their duds and their language I agree that these are most definitely Khans.
My bad. I admit that I don't know too much about East-European history, and what I know dates from aw hile back, so mu memory may be a bit foggy too.

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Re: A nice little vid for all you Kislev-fans...
« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2006, 11:10:34 AM »
Upon closer examination I too believe the chaps in the end are Tartars from Crimea, but that means they speak a Turkish language, so hah!, I wasn't completely off :-D
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Re: A nice little vid for all you Kislev-fans...
« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2006, 04:26:05 PM »
Right, it's probably a Khan of some sort.

I think I read about some polish/russian(?) movie called "With Fire and Sword" on this very website some looooong time ago, maybe that's where it's from?

EDIT: 'twas! Behold!

I remember that thread.  I think it was about Best War movies ever, or best movies for warhammer inspiration.  I posted that this was one of my favorites.

http://www.warhammer-empire.com/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=41&topic=938.0

Of the movies in the trilogy, "The Deluge" is, in my opinion, the finest of the three.  That's saying alot since I think Isabella Scorupco is THE most beautiful woman on the planet, and her good looks could carry almost any movie.  Unfortunately, bits and pieces of "With Fire and Sword" are pretty disappointing, and I feel Potop is superior.  Not to say I don't love WFaS, because I do, it's just that when taken as a whole, it's not as good a movie as Potop.  Zagloba seems to be portrayed much more like a fool in all the movies than he is in the books.  Plus, the battle sequences in Potop feel much more visceral (the final battle versus the Swedes is a favorite), and as someone else commented, WFaS looks a bit too made-for-tv in it's production values.  I especially love the Jasna Gora sequence in "Potop" when the local population approaches the Black Madonna on their knees, and it shows extreme close-ups of their faces, the battle outside the monastery as well as the sabotage of the cannon shortly thereafter.  Better cinematography than the other two movies. 

They speak several languages throughout the movie, generally it's Polish, though obviously you'll get some Ukrainian and Tatar/Turkic in parts (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong).  The version I have is obviously subtitled in English.  In some parts where the Cossack characters are speaking, there is an overdub in Polish, and you can hear both at the same time, which I have to imagine is how it appeared when it was on TV.  The only let down, and this can happen with any subtitled film, is that there are a few parts where there are no subtitles at all.  And it's not in scenes where people are just talking in the background, but like 10 seconds of main-character dialogue.  Again, this is the English language version, so this may not be the case for folks who buy different versions.

The only bugaboo is getting the DVDs.  I had a Polish friend who had them on VHS, and she let me borrow them.  I bought mine on DVD a few years ago, and they were ridiculously expensive (around $99 USD for the set) and it was a pain trying to lay hold of the proper region coded versions.  I'm pretty sure you ought to be able to get them cheaper now. 
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