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Offline FVC

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Re: Sex and the Maw Pit (and beyond)
« Reply #25 on: October 24, 2007, 09:16:14 AM »
Vampires - Assuming they'd want to ... think about it. Why would a Vampire want to have kids when he could grant the Blood Kiss to someone more deserving? You don't need a new generation when you're immortal

There's an interesting Terry Pratchett quote in that regard. I think it was in Carpe Jugulum, but flicking through it all I can find is the bit where the Old Count says that vampire's aren't much for family values. As I recall, the quote I'm thinking of went something like this -

Vampires, as a rule, are not very concerned with the survival of the species. All vampires are in constant competition for food, with the consequence that the more vampires there are, the harder the average vampire finds it to get by. For a vampire, the ideal world is a world in which every other vampire has been killed off and nobody believes in vampires.

The Bretonnians present an interesting case.  In the mode of 1200-1400 century French background, one could expect the nobles to take advantage of the perks of their office and exercise their seignorial rights with the peasant lasses toiling on the  manor.  The opportunity clearly exists, and the long term result would improve the overall fighting quality of the population as a whole.  Yet such is the antipathy that Bretonnian nobility holds for the peasants who support their society, perhaps the lances loose their spring at the mere thought of such an encounter?

That's a myth. The droit de seigneur never existed - at least not on a large scale. Medieval French nobles never had the right to deflower any maiden on their land. It may have existed on a small, local scale, maybe as a local tradition or two, but the right was never intrinsic to their office and it was never institutionalised.

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Re: Sex and the Maw Pit (and beyond)
« Reply #26 on: October 24, 2007, 09:43:51 AM »
That deflowering maidens thing was in England though I think. Not sure when but I read it somewhere.
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Re: Sex and the Maw Pit (and beyond)
« Reply #27 on: October 24, 2007, 10:21:40 AM »
Nope, it was not in practice there. It just didn't happen. This is not to say it was not occasionally mentioned in medieval sources. I hesitate to reference Wikipedia, but you may as well have a look at its article, as well as some of the references it cites. Lords never got to do that, I'm afraid. Maybe a few isolated incidents or traditions at most.

It is a stereotype we have about the Middle Ages. We have quite a lot of stereotypes, for some reason. Most have no basis in fact. This is in the same boat as medieval witch hunts or papal persecution of the Jews. In general, just not true.

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Re: Sex and the Maw Pit (and beyond)
« Reply #28 on: October 24, 2007, 12:35:56 PM »
I think Braveheart helped in this instance.
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Re: Sex and the Maw Pit (and beyond)
« Reply #29 on: October 24, 2007, 01:34:20 PM »
Why couldn't orcs live in arid places?  Just because they are a fungus, doesn't mean they haven't developed advanced means of retaining water.

The problem when basing our assumptions on our world is just that... Warhammer is not our world, and as such is not necessarily bound by everything that is applicable here, although the similarities are way more common than the differences.

I like the fungus idea personally... it certainly explains why they are so bloody hard to wipe out.

I don't like the spawning pool thing of the Lizardmen.  You mean to tell me there are generations and generations of fertilized eggs just floating in a pond waiting to hatch at the right time??  How would a pond hold so many eggs??  That to me is the weakest reproduction theory/method going in the WH world.
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Re: Sex and the Maw Pit (and beyond)
« Reply #30 on: October 24, 2007, 01:38:47 PM »
You never saw frogspawn in a pond as a child at school ....................

...... it's the most believable (non-human) reproduction process in fantasy.
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Re: Sex and the Maw Pit (and beyond)
« Reply #31 on: October 24, 2007, 03:27:52 PM »
You never saw frogspawn in a pond as a child at school ....................

...... it's the most believable (non-human) reproduction process in fantasy.


Ya and the spawning pool where built buy the Old Ones they could move planets I think they could make a   spawning pool that produce and fertilized eggs. 


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Re: Sex and the Maw Pit (and beyond)
« Reply #32 on: October 24, 2007, 07:03:52 PM »
FVC, thank you very much! I love Terry Pratchett and was considering mentioning the whole "raising rivals" thing myself. Captain Tineal raises a good point - our own logic does go awry with this sort of thing because we're looking at a Fantasy world ... and an underdeveloped one at that.

On the count of the Spawning Pools, I always got the impression (and this an impression mind, not a thought out idea) that the eggs were fertilised in a fairly traditional manner, but were long in development and extremely hard to predict - thus the seemingly random spawnings. I also imagined that the Sacred Spawnings weren't so much a genetic happening as literally a divine occourance (since gods have more of a presence in Warhammer, I like to think of them more as entities than superstitions, as it were)

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Re: Sex and the Maw Pit (and beyond)
« Reply #33 on: October 25, 2007, 10:37:28 PM »
Well from most of the history that I have read women had little writes, except the fact that they were allowed to work just as hard!  Also there were thought to be weaker the men.  Just a question but if there were women in the Imperial army would they fight in the same regiments as men or all women regiments? 

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Re: Sex and the Maw Pit (and beyond)
« Reply #34 on: October 25, 2007, 10:41:00 PM »
Well from most of the history that I have read women had little rights, except the fact that they were allowed to work just as hard!  They were also thought to be weaker than men.  Just a question, but if there were women in the Imperial army would they fight in the same regiments as men or all women regiments? 
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Hmm, interesting question. First would they fight, and then where? Where'd my fluff-bunny go...
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Re: Sex and the Maw Pit (and beyond)
« Reply #35 on: October 25, 2007, 11:10:27 PM »
Where'd my fluff-bunny go...

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Re: Sex and the Maw Pit (and beyond)
« Reply #36 on: October 26, 2007, 08:01:32 AM »
Well from most of the history that I have read women had little writes, except the fact that they were allowed to work just as hard!  Also there were thought to be weaker the men.  Just a question but if there were women in the Imperial army would they fight in the same regiments as men or all women regiments? 

If it is a citizen levy type dealy, I would think the woman fought in the same regiment as men.  The whole "Brothers, fathers, cousins, uncles all fight in the same unit to boost morale and keep them from running away and branding themselves a coward in their own villages" logistic strategy would just expand to include the same woman from the same vill/town/part of the city.  You wouldn't have to worry about immorality to be going around as they are of the same village and would be cast out if did (or caught :icon_wink: ) anything immoral/embarrassing.  If anything, put woman in the back of the formation with rolling pins, if their men try to run, just wack-em!  Wont be failing a moral test anytime soon.

As far as social standing, woman more or less took care of the farm/shoppe/business of the men while the men were at war.  So not seeing enough or any woman could be because the economy would fall apart.

I believe it was France, if not all of Europe, to consider woman the same as children and lunatics.  Men were there to take care of them, not be taken care by them.  This is from the notion that woman were inferior, as were children because they were not mature, and lunatics because...well they were loonys! :icon_lol:

As far as the spawning pool, and anything else war hammer related "What part of 'magic' pool do you not understand?"
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