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Offline Lost Commander

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My Gaming board from GW!
« on: March 09, 2009, 02:10:44 PM »
Yes as i stated in another post I was one of the people that GW aims this product at and therefore i now bought this big box of plastic.  ::heretic::

Some of you have already made it quite clear that this is a waste of money, that you can do it yourself for a fraction of the price, that nothing beats a fullsize table without the seams from the different plates, and that if you buy it you are a lazy gamer and not a true gamer.  :eusa_wall:

Well that is all a matter of opinion, i have decided that the apartment i live in is not giving me lot of options, that the job i have is not giving me enough time for running a project of making a board from the ground up, and that i apparently have to much money  :icon_razz:

First of all when putting all of the above aside, let me tell you that in the unpainted state it is now in, it is already giving me, my son and some of my colleagues some really good gaming experiences with in the fantasy setting as well as in the 40K setting.
My wife is "happy" that when we do not play she does not have to see this big bag of plastic at all, as it is lying under the bed.

Now for the reason of this thread to be in the Brush and Palette is that in a month when i for once do not have to work around and on the Easter holidays is when the board will be painted and come to live.

I plan to give it a brownish desert scheme, Base it in a color like "Bestial Brown" drybrush with "Vomit Brown" and then again with a 50/50 mix of "vomit brown" and "Bleached bone"

I am of course not going to do this in true GW colors but rather using some normal paint samples matching the GW colors.

I would love for you guys to give me some input in regards what to look out for when undertaking this project, as i have no experience in painting terrain at all.

So shoot fellas and let me hear you point of view on what to do.
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Re: My Gaming board from GW!
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2009, 02:54:30 PM »
Perhaps taking some plastic sprue pieces and giving the paint scheme a try could be helpful.
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Re: My Gaming board from GW!
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2009, 03:21:46 PM »
wash all surfaces to be painted with warm soapy water and dry thoroughly, you need to remove the casting release oils, invisible though they may be, they can affect the adhesion of your paint, and the quality of its appearance. When done painting, be sure to seal with hardcoat, I would suggest a layer or two of gloss varnish and then satin and or flat coats. the gloss dries harder and provides the best protection, the flat helps the appearance.
I would prime with flat black spray primer, all surfaces to be painted and the sides where they meet/join together, when you paint carry you surface/ground colors over onto the sides, so when butted up you don't have obvious black cracks running through you battlefield.
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Re: My Gaming board from GW!
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2009, 04:51:00 AM »
As stated before, primer and soap...primer and soap...for God's sake, WASH IT THEN PRIME IT!

Not me, but a friend of mine who's totally not me, tried painting his first figurines and terrain pieces without doing either of these.  His figures came out look horrendous, and worse, the paint flaked off left and right.  My- erm, his army quickly looked like it was melting on the battlefield!  Anyway, wash and prime it, then paint your basecoat of choice.  Maybe mark out some rough lines where terrain might be different, so you can use different coats (i.e., a rocky area where you intend to glue rougher sand or the like may be a lighter shade of brown).

Also, decide if you're going to texture it with flock or static grass, or try painting details atop the base coat instead of flocking them in place.  If you want to flock it, practice on some unused bases and make SURE to refine your gluing technique; I'm still trying to keep flock from falling off my pieces by the fistful!  Once you have a base that looks nice and has the flock or grass securely glued down, THEN move on to basing your terrain, if you want to.  You might be happy with it's preformed appearance, in which case just drybrush and ink wash as desired to highlight and shade the pieces.

If you prefer to paint the terrain, experiment with texture-giving materials on cardboard or the like first.  I've found expanded styrofoam (the kind that looks like it's made of millions of smashed together tiny balls) makes EXCELLENT rubble if you break it apart, roll it in wood glue and smush it down into piles (NOT super glue...I learned that the hard way on a failed orc village).  Spackle that's been watered down can be used for rough badlands ground of dirt and rocky sand; just paint the watered down gritty mess in place, let it dry, then base coat it and drybrush with a lighter shade.  Use piles of spackle to make rocky hills (with a few chunks of styrofoam or real pebbles to represent large outcroppings stuck in place), and follow the same painting method.  As with the flocking, only once you KNOW the result you're getting is what you want, do you being doing it to your terrain board.

You can also mix and match, making a simple painted and flocked board, then either gluing the terrain features directly onto the flock, or making them on seperate cardboard bases so you can mix and match (not as handy for storage since they need their own space, but worth it in the long run for versatility).

Hope my longwinded post helps a little.
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Re: My Gaming board from GW!
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2009, 01:50:08 PM »
Well i started on the GameBoard today, primed it black and have coated it once with a color like Bestial Brown from the local paint shop.

I plan on having painted all rocks tonight as well and maybe even the first drybrushed highlight of both the dirt and the rocks.

Hopefully i will be abe to varnish all the sections tomorrrow afternoon  :eusa_clap:

I have taken pictures of the progress made so far and will of course do it for every new step in the progress. I will post some of the WIP pictures tonight.
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Re: My Gaming board from GW!
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2009, 09:24:54 PM »
Okay, some advice, based on the various GW boards I've seen painted:

Painting

- With drybrushing, try your best to make sure that there are no visible brushstrokes, it needs to be almost compeltely dry, and brush in different directions or in circular motions, anything to break up visible brushstrokes.

- Think about the colour of the rocks, and whether or not it will fit in with the table, grey works with pretty much everything, or alternatively a colour that is close to the dirt colour can work well, like a sandstone brown for the rocks on your brown board... definitely do this if you're making a sand board, as the sand will be made from the same type of rock as the rocks, just like in any desert.

- Wih the skulls, just paint the skulls, not the area around them a different colour. Doing this makes the skull pit too much of a dominant feature and looks a bit weird. The best solution to the skull pit I've seen involved painting the skulls then having it be a little overgrown with static grass, then adding water effects to fill in the pit. Worked very well, as did careful application of water effects to other parts of the board (the rocks, puddles at base of hill etc.).

Flocking

- If you're going to add grass, avoid "patchiness", where people have a massive shape of pristine bright green field next to a patch of parched brown desert. Looks unrealisitic, but is the way that 90% of people go about it.

- Buy multiple bags of lots of different colours of static grass, roughly mix them all together, and apply to the board lightly... colour variation is natural and very important, look at pictures of scottish moors and things for inspiration, you'll notice that grass is literally never a flat luscious field of green in nature, only in trimmed and maintained lawns and things managed by man. Whatever you do, don't just get a big bag of GW's lurid green grass and smother the whole thing, it'll cost a bomb and not look great.

- If you want to have patchy coverage, break up the edges of the grassy areas by using spray adhesive or drybrushing a light bit of PVA around the edge and applying less grass to this part to "feather" the edges, blending them into the more barren areas without there being jarring lines.

- Might be an idea to experiment with clump foliage and/or lichen around some of the rocky parts, nothing too elevated of course or it'll interrupt gameplay.. think ground moss, heather, low-lying plants like that aren't grass. You'll need to get different static grass colours from a model railway store or toymaster/ hobby store so while you're there see what else they have in the way of foliage.

- Look at lots of model railway pictures for ideas, that community is way, WAY ahead of wargamers when it comes to making realistic tables.


Hope that's of use. :)
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Re: My Gaming board from GW!
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2009, 09:39:27 PM »
This sounds like a good project.  I saw the GW board in the online store and thought it was cool idea.  I can't wait to see photos of how your project is coming along.
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Re: My Gaming board from GW!
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2009, 07:47:16 AM »
Finally beat the camera :icon_eek: for some reason it doesnt work very well at the moment, pictures in a bad qauality and sometimes it will not let me transfer the images on it to my PC :icon_twisted:

Well here are the promised pictures of the battle board i promised you a while back:

Primed:






BaseColored once (had to do it twice but didnt take pictures of it) it is a color like Bestial Brown:


Here is the full table in all it glory (a bit blurry though) highlights were done with a color like Vomit Brown:


And some close ups of flaggies by the skull pits:








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Re: My Gaming board from GW!
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2009, 08:55:57 AM »
Nice :-D, especially the Skull Pit!!

A freind of mine has the bought the battle board too and it is a joy to play on when i go round to his place.

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Re: My Gaming board from GW!
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2009, 09:57:19 AM »
Nice :-D, especially the Skull Pit!!

Thanks,

The hardest part of painting this board was actually doing the basecolour of brown, the following highlights, rockbasing and highlights and Skullpits took a only an hours worth of painting followed by some painting the scattered bones around the board.

It is giving you a complete different gaming experience when playing on this board, we have enjoyed it very already.
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Re: My Gaming board from GW!
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2009, 04:34:30 PM »
Nice.  Thanks for posting the photos.  I was wondering what it would look like finished.
Is it very portable?
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Re: My Gaming board from GW!
« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2009, 07:18:57 PM »
Nice.  Thanks for posting the photos.  I was wondering what it would look like finished.
Is it very portable?

Well if you like me transport it by car then no problem, i live in an apartment and the friends i play at is in an apartment as well, and I haves no problems transporting up and down of stairs either.

BUT if you travel by bicycle or subway during rush hours, then i say you are in for a challenge and wouldn't carry this to the 8th floor of a building either :icon_lol:
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Re: My Gaming board from GW!
« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2009, 04:50:03 AM »
I meant to also ask if you painted the base coat with a brush or if you used an air brush?  I'm guessing because you said it took some time, this means you painted by hand.  Just wondering.
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Re: My Gaming board from GW!
« Reply #13 on: April 21, 2009, 06:30:20 AM »
The basecoat of the brown were indeed painted by hand, if i ever should go through a project like this again i will for sure invest in some kind of spray gun, the time for these two coats alone was massive compared to the rest.

if you have a spray gun you could with some planning do it all in a day, unless you plan to do flocking as well then i guess it would take a little longer.
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Re: My Gaming board from GW!
« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2009, 08:26:54 AM »
out of curiosity is it easy to get different configurations with the board or is it stuck in the same terrain set up each and every game.


The board looks good btw.
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Re: My Gaming board from GW!
« Reply #15 on: April 22, 2009, 09:46:24 AM »
Very nice!
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Re: My Gaming board from GW!
« Reply #16 on: April 22, 2009, 02:34:30 PM »


I think they look OK. The issues for me, personally, are that I don't care for the piles of skulls, and I'm more concerned with flexibility. I'd rather have flat boards and be able to move hills & such around more freely.

Instead of a spray gun, is there any reason you couldn't just use a decent canned spray paint?

Anyone know if they have started selling those gaming mats again?




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Re: My Gaming board from GW!
« Reply #17 on: April 22, 2009, 08:39:31 PM »
I believe I have seen the green mats being sold folded up in square box instead of a long roll.  I didn't look at it closely and it might have been made by a competator.
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Re: My Gaming board from GW!
« Reply #18 on: April 24, 2009, 02:11:44 PM »
out of curiosity is it easy to get different configurations with the board or is it stuck in the same terrain set up each and every game.
It is very easy as the sides goes together in a lot of different ways, so a lot of different setups are possible.

Very nice!
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I think they look OK. The issues for me, personally, are that I don't care for the piles of skulls, and I'm more concerned with flexibility. I'd rather have flat boards and be able to move hills & such around more freely.

Instead of a spray gun, is there any reason you couldn't just use a decent canned spray paint?
On the issue of the skullpits i agree that it does not always fit in, but as they are not deep or anything any other terrain you have is easily placed over it if needed, but it does add to the environment and attitude of the spirit while gaming.

I wasn't sure about the shade of brown if i bought a decent canned spray, and a friend of mine once paid quite a lot for 2 identical sprays, but apparently the shade wasn't quite identical??
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