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Offline Midaski

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Other Manufacturers
« on: November 19, 2009, 10:08:12 PM »
We've sort of had this discussion spread over lots of threads, but I have a couple of questions about some minis from other manufacturers.

I have kept a long list of manufacturers in my Favourites links, and lately have been surfing through the list, seeing what's new, and updating it.


Basically I am doing a 'Mathi'  :icon_wink: and considering other armies. However unlike some members I have no desire to disappear off to another race to build a new army, instead I look at other themed Empire armies.

For some time now I have been collecting minis for an Estalian Conquistador army, and I am tempted at the moment by Asian/Far East models.


So ..............


I am quite impressed with Perry Miniatures
http://www.perry-miniatures.com/index2.html

and I've been looking at their ECW stuff, the Muslim Armies, and the Korean and Samurai.
Are they all plastic?

The prices seem pretty good - Price 'A' is £6 sometimes for 6 minis.



These people do some very very cheap plastics, but has anyone got or seen their metal stuff?

http://www.em4miniatures.com/acatalog/Oriental_Blades__unpainted_.html






Lastly TAG or The Assault Group

http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/store/home.php

They do loads of ranges - anyone bought their minis?

Spanish (Conquistadors), Cossacks, & Medieval Asia Mongols & Others?


If you want to develop this further with other manufacturers, then please do .......... of course after my questions have been answered

It could provide info to revive/update the 'Links' sticky in the Imperial Office
« Last Edit: May 18, 2010, 05:37:53 PM by Midaski »
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Re: Other Manufacturers
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2009, 10:54:07 PM »
Most Perry stuff is metal I believe. Only the boxed sets are plastic.

www.warlordgames.co.uk

Lots of awesome ECW stuff.
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Re: Other Manufacturers
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2009, 04:47:23 AM »


As Inarticulate said, most of the Perry stuff is metal. But as we discussed in another thread, they've got plastic Wars of the Roses figures coming out soon, which gets a big :-D from me.

I think you may already be familiar with most of these, but just for the sake of mentioning it and collecting references...

I think you've seen elsewhere that I'm a big fan of the Front Rank Wars of the Roses range, as well. I use them for both Empire & DoW figures. As much as I'm a fan of the puff & slash landsknecht style, I've also become increasingly fond of doing a "historical Empire" army from the past, before the puff & slash. Sort of like they were portrayed in earlier editions of the game. Along those lines, some of the Crusader Miniatures WotR range are good. The cavalry fit better with WFB and Front Rank figures, though -- the infantry are well sculpted but thinner and more "realistic" looking.


Foundry is good, if somewhat expensive if you live outside of the UK. But in addition to their landsknecht range, they also have conquistadors & Elizabethans. Not only that, but they have a small number of orcs & dwarfs in costume of that period as well. Maybe something to use as DoW (dwarfs, Rudluds, etc) in an Estalian themed army.

Then, of course, there's the Black Scorpion's human, orc, gobbo and dwarf pirates.

Black Hat has more orcs, dwarfs, gobbos, etc. in a sort of Elizabethan/pirate theme.

Vendel Miniatures' fantasy figures are more dark ages themed, but they have a small range of Elizabethans (including their Irish & Border Rievers ranges.) A lot of the English are wearing morions and could probably pass for Estalians. I'm very curious to see these figures in person. They look great (and tempting!) on the web page.

There's also Old Glory, for a variety of historical figures. Plus I think at one point they carried various "dwarf wars" figures (Or were they by Blue Moon?) that were themed to different historical armies.

If you want ECW, in addition to the plastics from Warlord, mentioned by Inarticulate, there are also some great sales/deals at Renegade. Their figures are bit bulkier and closer to GW scale (if not bigger!).




http://www.perry-miniatures.com/
http://www.crusaderminiatures.com/
http://www.frontrank.com/
http://www.wargamesfoundry.com/
http://www.blackscorpionminiatures.com/
http://www.blackhat.co.uk/shattered_isles/index.php
http://vendelminiatures.co.uk/
http://www.oldglory25s.com
http://www.renegademiniatures.com/

Offline Midaski

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Re: Other Manufacturers
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2009, 09:10:23 AM »
Oh I already have Foundry & Vendel stuff. The Vendel models are plain but nice, and good value.
I plan on mixing them all up with the old GW Estalians, Pirazzo's, and some other odds and ends I have like these:
http://www.monolithdesigns.co.uk/borderreivers.htm

again pretty plain and nearer 30mm, but the odd one mixed in is fine.

...... and I have the pike and shotte boxes from Warlord, but they are a bit small and the hand weapons are tiny. They need to be in a unit of their own - they will not mix well with the above.

Going back to Perry, I thought metal, but some of the unpainted pics look quite 'grey' like plastic, and they show banner sets in a similar grey that look 'very' plastic.

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Re: Other Manufacturers
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2009, 01:38:39 PM »
You know, I happened upon the Dwarf forum the other day (I was looking for nice piccies of cool minis) and they have a really nicely laid out 'other manufacturer' section  and I couldn't help but thinking that we should really have something like that too.

It had clear pictures, links to websites and a lot of information on scale comparisons, range size, pricing and all. I was impressed.
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Re: Other Manufacturers
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2009, 12:03:36 PM »
I found this thread at TMP which has a couple of links to scale comparison pics if it's of any help.

http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=167341

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Re: Other Manufacturers
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2009, 12:37:43 PM »
I buy models from Reaper, Rackham and Hasslefree as well as Gw.

Truth be told, I normally just buy the models I like, then find a way to use them in my armies  :-D

http://www.reapermini.com/
http://www.rackham-store.com/boutique_us/index.cfm?code_lg=lg_us
http://www.hasslefreeminiatures.co.uk/
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Re: Other Manufacturers
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2009, 01:55:38 PM »
I am figuring about wether to use a T-34 model for either my Guards or for my orkz. And I still need a Sherman or a Tiger for another Battlewagon alongside my JSU-152.

By the way, Hasslefree got some lovely freaked out stuff.

And if you are into elves and think GW is to expensive, there is a new alternative in town. Not the superbest, but they ain´t bad either.
http://www.manticgames.com/
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Re: Other Manufacturers
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2009, 05:27:56 PM »

Good timing with this... I just spotted the following new figures announced at TMP:

http://www.bearsdenminiatures.com/28mm%20Renaissance.html

Where I was also reminded of:

http://eurekamin.com.au/index.php?cPath=87_126_693&sort=3a
http://eurekamin.com.au/product_info.php?cPath=87_126_740&products_id=10205
http://eurekamin.com.au/index.php?cPath=87_126_756&sort=3a


Hope I didn't miss that someone else already mentioned these.

Offline Midaski

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Re: Other Manufacturers
« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2009, 07:04:07 PM »
I have seen Eureka, but never been tempted enough to order all the way from Oz, and it annoys me that you cannot see delivery costs until you've done very thing else on their site.

The Bears Den photos appear stretched on my PC for some reason, and the model details look slightly 'chunky' .........

...... however this has to be one hell of a range:

http://www.bearsdenminiatures.com/28mm%20Bankers.html


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« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2009, 07:40:47 PM »
When you click on the "Photo" link and it opens a new window, wait for the image to load, then right click on it and select "View Image." Then resize that browser window. That will enlarge the photos of the unpainted figures greatly, and will fix the proportions on the painted figures.


It's the format of the web page. I assume they're copying HTML or using some sort of template. Whatever it is, it sucks and is screwing up their photos and likely turning away customers. And the stupid thing about the small photos is that it's still loading the full, huge files, so they're actually "paying" more bandwidth for a crappy default display!



http://www.bearsdenminiatures.com/28mm%20Bankers.html

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Re: Other Manufacturers
« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2009, 07:45:00 PM »
Actually 023 their whole site looks a bit amateurish,

... I was going to email them and ask where I could get the 'bear' model and then I saw it was a 'hotmail' address and I lost interest ..............

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Offline Midaski

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Re: Other Manufacturers
« Reply #12 on: November 25, 2009, 08:20:31 PM »
Nobody seems to have any info on the EM4 outfit?

I know someone posted a link to their plastic orcs at 50 for £7.50 a while back, but I wondered if anyone knew anything of the metal minis?

Do they make these themselves or are they from other manufacturers and these people are merely suppliers?
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Re: Other Manufacturers
« Reply #13 on: November 25, 2009, 08:38:00 PM »
All I know is EM4 used to do some cheap plastics, including some of the figures from the old Fantasy Warriors game, as well as the Space Rangers. I think they got into pre-painted.

I had some of the old plastic orcs & dwarfs when Grenadier was producing them. They were only OK for the time, now they look pretty dated.

I have never seen any of the metals, nor do I know anyone who has any.

Sorry. :/

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Re: Other Manufacturers
« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2009, 12:48:49 PM »
I just discovered that Artizan have started a Landsknecht range.

http://www.artizandesigns.com/list.php?man=20&page=1

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Re: Other Manufacturers
« Reply #15 on: November 27, 2009, 03:42:20 PM »
Oooh!

I hope they come out with more poses. Just 4 of the same guy standing with pike upright and 4 with them held level isn't much variety. They look great, though.

I wonder how they compare to Foundry.


EDIT: Looks like they have more variety in this regiment pack:

http://www.artizandesigns.com/prod.php?prod=1739

And at a discount.
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Re: Other Manufacturers
« Reply #16 on: December 01, 2009, 03:19:18 PM »
I was just about to post about the Artizan landsnechts! Just as well I checked first.

I'm going to buy that pack.

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Re: Other Manufacturers
« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2009, 01:23:45 AM »

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Re: Other Manufacturers
« Reply #18 on: December 07, 2009, 01:27:51 AM »
Those look nice, though I generally steer clear of Assault Group for some reason.

I've got loads of fluff written for an Estalian army I need to find the time and money to put models to!
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« Reply #19 on: December 07, 2009, 04:06:55 PM »
The TAG spanish range was why I asked about them in the first post.

In the link 023 gives above they look a bit 'head heavy' to me - too much for me to order without a recommendation.
I think I'll leave them until Salute next April and actually have a look up close on their stand.

On the good news front my Perry order turned up today - I bought some Choson Korean, and Samurai ..............

Wow - I tried 2 sets of the Koreans - the heavy swordsmen KOR16  and Cavalry with flails KOR10.

The swordsmen are £6.00 for 6, +12% postage - Perry sculpts at £1.12p each, just fantastic.
If you look at the swordsmen pics on their site they are nicely painted, and the shields look brilliant - I thought it was the painter's design, but no - the shield designs are sculpted.

The cavalry KOR10 is three riders + mounts and weapons are separate along with a 3-piece bow sprue = bow in quiver, arrows in quiver, and an empty quiver.

I also got a few of the Samurai sets to see how they look, and again sets of 6 individual swordsmen models for £6.00.

I think there is a strong possibiity that my Kislevs will have forged a few new alliances eastwards and have some allied units appearing within their ranks soon ..............
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Re: Other Manufacturers
« Reply #20 on: December 16, 2009, 02:04:49 PM »


Found this thread with a couple of comparison shots of the new Artizan figures next to some other manufacturers:

http://www.frothersunite.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=23759&start=10

Is it my imagination or do the legs look short (and long torso) on the guy in the third pic (compared to the GW spearman)? The others (in the first two pics) look fine normal, though. Look good, in fact. Further tempting me...


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Re: Other Manufacturers
« Reply #21 on: December 16, 2009, 11:06:49 PM »
Is it my imagination or do the legs look short (and long torso) on the guy in the third pic

I don't know, but I have some and think they look fine next to GW ones.

Mine were slightly poorly cast though. Quite a bit of flash, and few bits of impaired detail. Still worth the price though, and preferable to foundry or old glory.
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Re: Other Manufacturers
« Reply #22 on: December 17, 2009, 03:06:27 AM »
Yeah... my willpower is breaking down. I'm on a miniatures "spending freeze" so I'm now starting to consider selling of all or parts of my WE army that I will probably never get to and use that to fund a big purchase of the new Artizan & Perry figures. Too bad no one ever buys me miniatures or gaming stuff for Christmas!  :-(

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Re: Other Manufacturers
« Reply #23 on: December 17, 2009, 09:38:28 AM »
Too bad no one ever buys me miniatures or gaming stuff for Christmas!  :-(

I hear ya!

Everytime my wife asks me what I want, she sounds like Meatloaf when I give her the answer:

"I will do anything for love, but I won't do that..."

WTF?

Still, hadn't it been for my new found love for 40K Orks I would probably have succumbed to those lovely plastic Romans.
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Re: Other Manufacturers
« Reply #24 on: December 17, 2009, 12:13:54 PM »
Well, I am more and more looking at Warhammer Ancient Battles, because thanks to Rome: Total war, I think I can turn my son over to it. And the minis are cheaper.

Now, if I invent some nifty dual base system, I might be able to use celts as maraduers in the future or something... Maybe...
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