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Offline Justnorth

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Re: Other Manufacturers
« Reply #975 on: January 11, 2012, 05:05:46 PM »
O_o  Aye Carumba, why are they wasting that quality on CADIANS !!! Graaaahhhhh
More attentions on the SQUATS please...

But seriously... 148 models for $150.00, who is going to buy GW anymore? 
How many weapons teams?
Those boys at Mantic are bloody smart, but then they are ex GW and they were with GW for a long time. I'm still waiting for the three Dungeon box sets to come through, cant wait much longer, getting streeeesssed.
That 40k Kak will sell like bloody hot cakes.
GW can pucker their skanky lips and suck my arse.

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Offline Timbor

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« Reply #976 on: January 11, 2012, 05:53:35 PM »
Wow, those pics do look very nice.  Although I will say its easier to do humans well as there is pretty much the same expectation across the board to how we should look.  I bet those will sell very well if the rest of the troops turn out nice.

Otherwise, Crusader miniatures have their rulebooks on sale for the next week or so, 50% off or greater:
http://www.crusaderminiatures.com/list.php?cat=2&page=1

I was considering getting the ancients/medieval books to try out at some point.  Read a few reviews saying they are pretty streamlined, simple rules which appeals to me.  Anyone tried the Crusader rules, or hear anything good/bad about them?
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Re: Other Manufacturers
« Reply #977 on: January 11, 2012, 06:25:16 PM »
I own Crusader's ancients rules ("Crusader") but have not had a chance to play them. I do like them, though. Not too far off the Warhammer model, but with some changes that I've always wanted to see (d10, combining toughness and armor into one resistance test, etc.)

He has a playtest copy of fantasy rules up on the web page too. Downloaded them but haven't had time to read yet.


As far as those Mantic humans,, I think they look better than the Cadians. Plus they are generic enough for non 40k use. If they turn out as good as they look so far, they may be my first Mantic purchase.

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« Reply #978 on: January 11, 2012, 11:00:19 PM »
Cool, perhaps I will give the crusader rules a try - at least in theory.  The reviews I read stressed their streamlined simplicity, which seems like a bonus to trick/recruit new players.

You have to hand it to Mantic, they seem to at least have good presentation of their releases.  Comparing the Mantic humans to the Wargames factory shock troops release - I like the idea of the preorders and army deals, and that they are planning to release several sets at once rather than the basic troops and then heavy weapons teams what, like a year later?

Now, how will the mantic fantasy humans look?
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Re: Other Manufacturers
« Reply #979 on: January 11, 2012, 11:15:01 PM »
Nice mantic figs. Maybe they shall produce some footknights, you never have enough of those. But that is waay in the future, if at all.
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« Reply #980 on: January 12, 2012, 02:44:35 AM »
Don't forget to take alook at whats going on over at Defiance Games.  They are the same guys who originally founded Wargames factory, and they've got future US Marines up for preorder, plus Hudson's Bugs and future Germans both coming soon as well.  They've got a set of rules that's being created for use with these minatures as well, and plans for various other futuristic releases.
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« Reply #981 on: January 12, 2012, 03:14:56 AM »
Cool, perhaps I will give the crusader rules a try - at least in theory.  The reviews I read stressed their streamlined simplicity, which seems like a bonus to trick/recruit new players.

That's part of what I like about the combined armour & toughness. You get both factors worked into the math, but one less die roll. Similarly, I like the multi-basing thing where you have each unit broken into something like 6 "bases" instead of 24 individual figures. Again, you end up with similar math, but with easier (and more scenic!) basing, movement, etc.

That said, I could deal with just a tiny bit more complexity to the Crusader rules. But as they're more along the lines of Hail Caesar (not tournament focused, encourage friendly play, customizing, etc.) they still seem adaptable. (In truth, so is Warhammer -- both Fantasy and Ancients, but because of the heavy competitive focus of those games, I've noticed a harsh opposition to any customizing of the rules for any purpose, even supposedly "friendly" games.)

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Re: Other Manufacturers
« Reply #982 on: January 12, 2012, 06:12:20 PM »
Damn. Those guardsmen look better than GW's Cadians.
I agree with the inhumane treatment of animals.

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« Reply #983 on: January 12, 2012, 07:09:30 PM »
I was wondering on those Mantic "Cadians", if thats what they are, why the bolts on the boot protective plates are so large?
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« Reply #984 on: January 12, 2012, 07:49:41 PM »
I was wondering on those Mantic "Cadians", if thats what they are, why the bolts on the boot protective plates are so large?

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« Reply #985 on: January 12, 2012, 07:50:38 PM »
I was wondering on those Mantic "Cadians", if thats what they are, why the bolts on the boot protective plates are so large?

Keep the Stirlanders from stealing their shoes  :biggriin:

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« Reply #986 on: January 13, 2012, 02:22:24 PM »
At first I didn't notice those bolts.  Like most humans, I tend to look at the face and then put it in context of the upper body.  Then when I started scanning the whole figure the bolts stood out, and each time I look at them, its keeping me from wanting to purchase.
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Re: Other Manufacturers
« Reply #987 on: January 13, 2012, 02:46:39 PM »
They're plastic figures - cut the bolts off.  :wink:

Offline Justnorth

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« Reply #988 on: January 14, 2012, 02:01:24 PM »
They're plastic figures - cut the bolts off.  :wink:

What would these kids do without you zero, I don't know  :icon_rolleyes:
If you are really that freaky about a few bolts cut them off and file them flat.
The models look awesome, I still haven't noticed the bolts and I don't like 40K at all (except for SQUATS who rock)
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« Reply #989 on: January 14, 2012, 02:50:56 PM »
 :icon_lol:

If you're only looking at the guy in the cloak (the one that has oversized bolts on the corner of his garment  :icon_rolleyes: ), then to see what I'm talking about you need to click on the pictures below him to see the guys with the over sized bolts on their boots.

Bah, the figures aren't really that attractive to me anyway.
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Offline rufus sparkfire

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Re: Other Manufacturers
« Reply #990 on: January 14, 2012, 04:40:57 PM »
I think I quite like the Mantic skeletons.

My favourite thing about them is actually the skeletal rat/dog thing you get on the sprue though.
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Offline Justnorth

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« Reply #991 on: January 14, 2012, 05:06:17 PM »
Damn Mantic are picking up pace...their Cadians are pretty nice too.

http://www.manticgames.com/Shop-Home/Warpath/Corporation/Product/Corporation-Armoured-Division-Ultimate-Deal-148-Figures.html

At 150 for around 120 148  :icon_eek: models including 15 heavy weapon teams it becomes even nicer.

Info- Rangers kit includes extras, specifically 9 special weapons (3 of each type, flamer, heat gun, heavy laser rifle), and pistol/ melee weapon option for the leader, along with the drop packs. Think Nightsword mentioned demo charges and stuff as well.

Heavy weapon teams can be built as either lascannon or autocannon, basic corporation marines come with a few special weapon/ melee weapon options. Veterans all have special weapons, with an attached heavy weapon team

Word is that all of the Corporation resin/plastics will have seperate heads and seperate arms... and plenty of different options for both.

Hope they keep that up for the fantasy ranges too.  :icon_cool:


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Re: Other Manufacturers
« Reply #992 on: January 15, 2012, 11:39:59 AM »
:icon_lol:

If you're only looking at the guy in the cloak (the one that has oversized bolts on the corner of his garment  :icon_rolleyes: ), then to see what I'm talking about you need to click on the pictures below him to see the guys with the over sized bolts on their boots.

Bah, the figures aren't really that attractive to me anyway.

Have a look at this guy's right leg .................... I wonder if this is where the idea of bolts come from. 



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« Reply #993 on: January 15, 2012, 11:55:04 AM »
How does he move his legs?
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« Reply #994 on: January 15, 2012, 12:34:01 PM »
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« Reply #995 on: January 15, 2012, 01:06:15 PM »
Although with no more difficulty than any figure from 40k...I always want to know where they keep their ammo.
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« Reply #996 on: January 15, 2012, 02:31:59 PM »
Ideally, in their enemis' faces.   :engel:

Seriously, cutting off bolts/rivets/whatever on metal figures might be a hassle, but on plastic it's not a big deal.


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Re: Other Manufacturers
« Reply #997 on: January 15, 2012, 06:05:23 PM »
Although with no more difficulty than any figure from 40k...I always want to know where they keep their ammo.
Most models that use ammo come with ammo containers of some sort(except space orks maybe), but people can rarely be bothered to glue them on.
I agree with the inhumane treatment of animals.

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« Reply #998 on: January 15, 2012, 06:12:32 PM »
I always assumed magic.
I thought he should act responsibly and just kill himself.

Offline Justnorth

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« Reply #999 on: January 15, 2012, 10:07:40 PM »
I like the bolts, I'm for keeping them. :icon_mrgreen:
GW can pucker their skanky lips and suck my arse.

He's French. Since when do his plans have to be feasible?