Topic: Turning Cannons,etc.

[polybus11]

When I want to fire my cannon, I can spin it to face the enemy but what happens if there is a crew member standing there?  Can I move him out of the way without counting as moved?  If so, I guess I can't arrange my crew like a real crew.  I'll have to put them within 1" but in a spot that will least annoy me.

[rufus sparkfire]

what happens if there is a crew member standing there?  Can I move him out of the way without counting as moved?

Yes, you can. He's pushing the gun around, after all.

[warhammerlord_soth]

Mine are on a scenic base together with the cannon. I just turn the lot...

[patsy02]

Creating a circular base for the gun and the crew makes this easy, just spin it around the middle.

[rufus sparkfire]

Circular bases use too much space though. They limit where you can put your cannon.

[Obi]

Unless you magnetise your cannons and crew so you can take them off.

[ZeroTwentythree]

I actually had someone once tell me that you could pivot the gun because it says so in the book, but that if the crew had to move, it couldn't fire because it counted as moving.

 

(In addition to the wall smiley, we need some sort of groin-kick smiley.)

I asked if -- using that logic -- he was suggesting that under normal circumstances a gun's crew stayed with their feet planted in one place as they loaded and fired the cannon. 

[Fandir Nightshade]

There is also nothing in the rulebook mentioning that you are not allowed to kick him in the nuts! 

[ZeroTwentythree]

Exactly. 


Actually, that brings up another question... 

Two artillery pieces are side by side, their crews are crowded around the machines. One crew gets wiped out from missile fire. The other crew is all with in 1" of both guns. Can they switch to firing the abandoned gun without counting as "moving" since they are already in range to operate it (and the figures don't need to physically move)?

[Siberius]

That starts off sounding like it's gonna be a joke  .

My guess would be no though, even though it doesn't really make sense. I'd have thought moving from one unit to another would count as movement regardless of how far. Don't really remember anything like that being covered in the rules though.

[Obi]

More importantly, can they fire both guns every turn? 

RAI No, I don't know what's RAW.

[Zalminen]

I remember reading a long argument on whether warmachines could fire even when the crew was in close combat. 
IIRC the rulebook only says units in close combat cannot use missile weapons but nowhere does it say the same about warmachines...   

Then the argument branched into whether a warmachine would count as crewed if the crew was fleeing but still within 1". The rulebook says the warmachine is crewed if the crew is within 1" , no other requirements

Silly, sure...

[MrDWhitey]

Silly, sure...

I'm sorry, you wrote "Utterly ridiculous, and not even worth thinking of beyond a quick laugh" wrong. 

[polybus11]

What about if I have a Wizard with the cannon?  Can I move him out of the way too?

[Skyros]

I just model my crew laying down so the cannon can swing it's barrel over their prone body with no difficulties!S

[Odominus]

I like to model em with all 3 crew riding the cannon like an electric bull.

[vesrian]

What about if I have a Wizard with the cannon?  Can I move him out of the way too?

Since he's not crew, I'm pretty sure the wizard can move in the movement phase without affecting the cannon's ability to fire.

[Delthos]

Here's a pic of how I mount mine. I've never had a game where a crew man got in the way of the canon. The circle I'm mounting the warmachine on is the same size as a small blast template. A small blast template is what I used for it. I know they take up more room, but I think there has been maybe two times in my last 20 game where I had to take them off the scenic base to make more room or fit them in a small space.

[The Real Rick Salamone]

That scenic base looks very nice.

[Delthos]

Thanks! One nice thing about these is that there is never any questioning about not having rotated the canon on it's center. Everybody likes them and it gives a chance to add a little extra personalization to the army with the scenic bases. Something that isn't always doable otherwise.