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Offline MrDWhitey

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« on: January 24, 2010, 03:17:29 PM »
Much like world of warcraft sucks when compared to playing AD&D (or any other fantasy role-playing game you sit around a table playing). Instead of an intricately balanced game, it's a hack & slash botch job.

Amusingly a lot of 40k players say that about Fantasy.  :engel:
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Re: 40K
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2010, 04:12:09 PM »
Instead of an intricately balanced game, it's a hack & slash botch job.

 :icon_lol:

I will give your crack dealer a score of 5 out of 5 for a well developed drug.

You obviously have been watching tards play if you say that, or have no idea what the game is about.

I play both and have more tactical ideas for 40K than vice versa.
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Re: 40K
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2010, 04:52:36 PM »
I find 40k more varied and tactical too, purely because it's more balanced.

With WFB, the tactics for me are 'Oh, hey, DE/DoC/VC/Lizardmen/Insert Army Here yet again, how should I prolong the inevitable?'....

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Re: 40K
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2010, 06:15:49 PM »
I love 40k and have slowly stopped playing fantasy because of it.

The main reason for me thinking 40k is better is the difference in the movement. The movement in fantasy is so idiotic and difficult. Whereas 40k movement is nice and easy skirmisher movement. Which makes the game much more fast and dynamic. Which i like.
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Re: 40K
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2010, 06:42:34 PM »
Instead of an intricately balanced game, it's a hack & slash botch job.

 :icon_lol:

I will give your crack dealer a score of 5 out of 5 for a well developed drug.

You obviously have been watching tards play if you say that, or have no idea what the game is about.

I play both and have more tactical ideas for 40K than vice versa.
I can't complain about my crack dealer.

40k tactics?
Dig in and shoot?
Use tanks?
Why bother? Why not just nuke the whole board in one go...

Sorry. I'm just being obnoxious. I had food poisoning and my arse feels like Big Bad Bill has been stretching it without lubricant the whole bloody weekend (and you don't want to know the rest).
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Re: 40K
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2010, 06:51:46 PM »
(and you don't want to know the rest).

You obviously don't know me.

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« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2010, 07:15:51 PM »
(and you don't want to know the rest).

You obviously don't know me.

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Re: 40K
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2010, 07:16:35 PM »
I need a new pair of shorts.

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Re: 40K
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2010, 09:34:17 PM »
 :-D

Had an awesome game today, 2v2 1k a player.

Tank shocked a squad of 14 necrons off the board with a 35 point rhino.

Yes!

Aldaris, I hope my daemon prince does better against you though... he met the Nightbringer.  :icon_frown:
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Re: 40K
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2010, 09:41:19 PM »
Tank shocked a squad of 14 necrons off the board with a 35 point rhino.
That's awesome. I've only ever played Necrons once, with my IG. He had tons of Destroyers (are those the ones with the Multilaser equivalent?) and the Nightbringer. And he rolled like God for his saves and I'll BE BACK rolls.
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Re: 40K
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2010, 09:46:49 PM »
Yeah, 3 shot strength 6 but AP 4.

My ally was tau, and he was absolutely slaughtered.  :-D

Constantly driving up, tank shock/prepare, disembark, re-embark next turn and zoom off was fun.
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Re: 40K
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2010, 09:58:24 PM »
Yes, that's how I love to play 40k: mounted-up maneuver warfare. Last game I managed - after one turn of setting him up which he fortunately didn't spot - to cut off a large portion of his force by blocking all access off with my tanks, dismounting and slaughtering them in isolation before he managed to get reinforcements there since he had to go all the way around. After that it was wipe-time. Was a Chaos mirror-match, so especially satisfying.

Anyone who says there are no tactics in 40k doesn't know what he's talking about.
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Re: 40K
« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2010, 10:20:53 PM »
Anyone who says there are no tactics in 40k doesn't know what he's talking about.
Anyone who plays 40k secretly wears women's knickers and doesn't shave his balls.

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Re: 40K
« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2010, 10:23:15 PM »
It's no secret for me.  :engel:
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Re: 40K
« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2010, 10:34:29 PM »
It's no secret for me.  :engel:
You don't shave your balls?
Pffft... how terribly 80's.
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Re: 40K
« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2010, 12:12:49 AM »
It's no secret for me.  :engel:
You don't shave your balls?
Pffft... how terribly 80's.

*Insert Duke Nukem reference here*

Yes, that's how I love to play 40k: mounted-up maneuver warfare. Last game I managed - after one turn of setting him up which he fortunately didn't spot - to cut off a large portion of his force by blocking all access off with my tanks, dismounting and slaughtering them in isolation before he managed to get reinforcements there since he had to go all the way around. After that it was wipe-time. Was a Chaos mirror-match, so especially satisfying.

Anyone who says there are no tactics in 40k doesn't know what he's talking about.

There is strategy, just in different ways from fantasy. And those ways just happen to be the ones I'm not good at...  :dry:

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Re: 40K
« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2010, 12:23:42 AM »
Anyone who plays 40k secretly wears women's knickers and doesn't shave his balls.
The secret is being able to wear womens knickers and still be manly. And if you shave your balls you're an effeminate metrosexual. Who still doesn't know what he's talking about.
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Re: 40K
« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2010, 12:52:13 AM »
40k is just as complicated as fantasy, just in different ways.

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Re: 40K
« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2010, 12:58:28 AM »
In better ways IMO, since even the weakest army can subdue another, all depending on composition and tactics.
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« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2010, 01:20:04 AM »
I 100% agree.

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« Reply #20 on: January 25, 2010, 01:26:14 AM »
In better ways IMO, since even the weakest army can subdue another, all depending on composition and tactics.

Really?

I've been struggling to get into 40k because I don't feel the same tactical depthness toward 40k that fantasy has.

I mean I have quite a bit of 40k but have no motivation whatsoever to play. My mates who play all say there are armies much like TK or O&G in 40k as well, Grey Knights, Necrons, Tau for example.
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Re: 40K
« Reply #21 on: January 25, 2010, 07:07:19 AM »
Yep. No matter many wounds or what armour save the nasty has, your 5 point guardsman can always just take a plasma gun.
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Re: 40K
« Reply #22 on: January 25, 2010, 09:15:15 AM »
They may be gimped armies, but Grey Knights in particular have options (aka being taken as allies) that make them much more effective.

Oh, and Tau are absolutely 100% ass-raping nasty in the right hands. The local guy who plays them... *shivers*

And 'Crons are, if nothing else, hideously tough.

Also, most people don't interpret their WBB rule correctly. IIRC, the way it's phrased you can't be killed by sweeping advances or something like that. Which makes them much better in CC than they would appear.
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Re: 40K
« Reply #23 on: January 25, 2010, 09:19:36 AM »
My mates who play all say there are armies much like TK or O&G in 40k as well, Grey Knights, Necrons, Tau for example.
There are some races stronger or weaker in 40k, but in my opinion it is nowhere near as pronounced as it is in Fantasy. Most older races can still compete fairly well, albeit with a handicap.
I like both games. Fantasy is more complex, but 40k has its own unique challenges and twists and is fast and fun to play. Plus there are tons of awesome models.

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Re: 40K
« Reply #24 on: January 25, 2010, 09:21:30 AM »
I have about 2000 points steel legions IG lying around bought the rulebook and the IG army book but havenīt found the courage to play the game yet.

Also with IG I donīt know what I should field somehow too much candy and I donīt know what is really needed in a 1500 game and how the resonance of special characters is.

Usarkar Creed looks nasty 40 infantry guys with kommisar and sarge also seem quite nasty

did I get it right that there is no way to pick those two out of the regiment in close combat?

I mix up last edition rules with the new ones all the time in my head.