Topic: The Orks are Bestest!

[Nicholas Bies]

Well I think I'll make it regular then and I can reconvert to larger bodies should I like them or use as regular bikers and stick a nobz squad on trukk later on.

[phillyt]

I wouldn't put nobz in a trukk.  If you have the wagon, use the wagon with a KFF Mek.  It is the best.  Other than a Stompa of course...

Phil

[Nicholas Bies]

KFF?

[phillyt]

Kustom Force Feild.  The end all be all of the ork army.  People use this instead of the warboss almost every time.  It is a must use in a competitive list.

Phil

[MrDWhitey]

What's your opinion of Lobbas/Kannons PhillyT?

[phillyt]

Kannons crews aren't bad, but I would rather take a unit of Kans everytime.  If they didn't look so awesome, I wouldn't put kannons on my Battlewagons, but they are too sweet not to!

Lobbas I have never liked.

Phil

[Aldaris]

If you want Lobbas, join the Guard and use their mortar teams.

[Mathi Alfblut]

I like the idea of indirect support from cowardly gretchins, but as Philly said, kannons are so sweet. Basically the workhorse of ork long range heavy weapons. Also, if you compare with zapguns and lobbaz, I feel the kannons are simply the best choice and gives you most out of the BS3 of the Gretchins.

I will have one at the moment. It is huge compared to the grots since it is a 1/35 scale model of a russian ZiS3 76,2mm AT/fieldgun. But since orkz worry more about size and sound, I feel it is a very appropriate kannon! 

And when it comes to nobz, I must really agree with Philly that there is really no other ride that show the status of the Nobz like a Battlewagon. Hence why Kellie rides with his nob drinking cronies on the battlewagon Defftread, while his Ard boyz ride on the second one, Steelsquiggoth, and Big Mek Oddball with his KFF (really no forcefield at all, it is Oddball projecting his Posutiv wibez  ) mounted on the third one, Gitslayer, who packed both Kannon and Killkannon.
The Killkannon is really a rather sucky upgrade, but it was such a good excuse to have two cannons mounted on one Wagon. My T-34 model now looks even more brutal! 

[MrDWhitey]

I have two hulks of Leman Russ tanks left over. They have no sponsons or turrets, so I'm thinking of making a kind of gun deck on top and putting the gretchin and kannon on it.

For a laugh, it will amuse me.

[Mathi Alfblut]

Sounds awesome! Go ahead and post pics! 

[Generalisimo]

Who needs kannons when you can tear up the Land raider with your Uge Deef rolla 

[MrDWhitey]

I love guns.

And I'm using up what I've got, there is a budget to consider!

[phillyt]

Deff Rollas do not work on vehicles.  Unfortunately.

Phil

[Cannonofdoom]

Yes they do, they faq'd it.

[phillyt]

That must have been EXTREMELY recently.  I swear I looked at the faq less than 8 months ago...

If that is the case I will be one happy mother!

Phil

[Cannonofdoom]

Ork FAQ February 2010

Q. Can you use the Deffrolla when Ramming
vehicles or does it only work when Tank
Shocking non-vehicle units?
A. The death rolla does indeed inflict D6 S10 hits
against vehicles, as Ramming is just a type of
Tank Shock.

Q. Does a unit that successfully stops a Deff
Rolla-equipped Battlewagon’s Tank Shock suffer
any hits?
A. Yes, it does. In fact, it suffers 2D6 S10 hits!

Q. Can a Deff Rolla affect more than one enemy
unit with a single Tank Shock move?
A. Yes, all of the units Tank Shocked are affected
by the Deff Rolla (roll separately for each unit).

[Nicholas Bies]

hmm i'm going to have to go look at the FAQ myself methinks.

I opened the battalion box and I saw the nobz, I think I should be able to make Nobz bikers however I'm not sure I want to.

I'm thinking the cheaper the things are and the more of them the better.

[Generalisimo]

The cheaper the better. But when it comes to a Rolla, d6 st10 hits (automatically) on a vechicle, only for 20 points on a 14 front armor 4+ obscured Wagon, why not?

I mean Orks don t have a lot of anti tank support, only some tankbustas, maybe zzap guns if you re lucky, mainly close combat power claws or dreads, now with this faq opening a Raider has never been easier .

[Mathi Alfblut]

I got to make a Deffrolla for Battlewagon Defftreed somehow.

[Nicholas Bies]

I got to make a Deffrolla for Battlewagon Defftreed somehow.

Same.

I'm beginning to reshape my army slightly. Big Mek is needed with Force field - obscured target = 4+ cover right?

I'm also going to convert my old warlord from ages ago - the big shooter/large choppa model and mix him with grazkull so he's an Individuwal mowdel.

[phillyt]

I covered the front of my tanks with spikes and such.  That is so awesome about that faq!

Phil

[Mathi Alfblut]

Well, I was thinking of making a minevelt style of deffrolla. After all, my ladz are about recon-in-force. Smashing through a point of the enemy defences and then swooping of to scout the area and if need be return the way they came pointing the way for the main force while they hide the best booty inside their vehicles. 

A vehicle able to fluffwise create a path through enemy defences suits the job perfectly. 

[Generalisimo]

Yeah you don t need to make it look exactly tha same as the picture in the book , Orks do a lot of different stuff to use them for the same purpuse. I also saw in the GW site that you can buy it 
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat1300048&prodId=prod30013a&rootCatGameStyle=  , same I was playing with a toilet paper all this time

[MrDWhitey]

That upgrade pack makes me happy in my pants.

[Nicholas Bies]

I keep sneaking peeks at the sprues every morning before I start studying and it's beginning to make me REALLY excited to make and paint.

1 question I've been thinking about my Warboss and was contemplating the idea of just giving him a Powerclaw and leaving him at that. Only 85pts then, I can fit in a Big mek and some more boyz for the cost of Grazkull.

What do you guys think?