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Question on Warrior Priest Prayers
« on: April 13, 2012, 10:56:47 AM »
Was reading the new book last night and was wondering regarding the prayer that grants flaming attacks, as this is an augment spell does that also mean the attacks are magical? I'm going to be facing VC a lot and this might help with the inevitable Etheral spam if it works? Or at least draw out dispel dice if they think it's going to hurt them.

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Re: Question on Warrior Priest Prayers
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2012, 11:01:32 AM »
Was reading the new book last night and was wondering regarding the prayer that grants flaming attacks, as this is an augment spell does that also mean the attacks are magical? I'm going to be facing VC a lot and this might help with the inevitable Etheral spam if it works? Or at least draw out dispel dice if they think it's going to hurt them.

Unfortunately the attacks are only flaming, not magical. It does work against regen spam.

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Re: Question on Warrior Priest Prayers
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2012, 11:23:25 AM »
so what about augmenting knights to go troll hunting?

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Re: Question on Warrior Priest Prayers
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2012, 11:32:04 AM »
so what about augmenting knights to go troll hunting?

you would not want those uglies spit on your knights for sure.

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Re: Question on Warrior Priest Prayers
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2012, 11:26:21 AM »
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Re: Question on Warrior Priest Prayers
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2012, 12:08:44 PM »
Yes, but those wearing it will have bought it second-hand from the heirs of the dead knights.
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Re: Question on Warrior Priest Prayers
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2012, 07:13:45 PM »
Darn it! I was wondering if they counted as magical attacks too. Shoot buckets.
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Re: Question on Warrior Priest Prayers
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2012, 08:57:23 PM »
Some questions I had (which I think I read here somewhere already, but can't find back quickly).

1.
Does an irresistible force prayer end the magic phase, or can a WP just cast additional prayers?

2.
Can a WP cast the same prayer again in the same phase if it got dispelled?

3.
Does Soulfire also hit enemy targets in basecontact with a detachment?

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Re: Question on Warrior Priest Prayers
« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2012, 09:05:01 PM »
Some questions I had (which I think I read here somewhere already, but can't find back quickly).

1.
Does an irresistible force prayer end the magic phase, or can a WP just cast additional prayers?

2.
Can a WP cast the same prayer again in the same phase if it got dispelled?

3.
Does Soulfire also hit enemy targets in basecontact with a detachment?

1. No, a WP can keep casting as he does not miscast. The only reason an IF can end a magic phase is certain results on the miscast table.

2. No, he can only attempt to cast each prayer once, successful or not.

3. No, the DD element of Soulfire is against units in contact with the WP, not the unit. The flaming attacks of course do carry on.

At least that's how I read it.

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Re: Question on Warrior Priest Prayers
« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2012, 09:11:26 PM »
Some questions I had (which I think I read here somewhere already, but can't find back quickly).

1.
Does an irresistible force prayer end the magic phase, or can a WP just cast additional prayers?

2.
Can a WP cast the same prayer again in the same phase if it got dispelled?

3.
Does Soulfire also hit enemy targets in basecontact with a detachment?

1. No, a WP can keep casting as he does not miscast. The only reason an IF can end a magic phase is certain results on the miscast table.

2. No, he can only attempt to cast each prayer once, successful or not.

3. No, the DD element of Soulfire is against units in contact with the WP, not the unit. The flaming attacks of course do carry on.

At least that's how I read it.

1. Don't have the BRB with me, but I'm pretty sure the WP cannot cast anymore prayers if he gets an IF (innate bound spell ability). Other priests can still cast, however, as that only ends the magic phase for him, and not the entire army.
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Re: Question on Warrior Priest Prayers
« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2012, 09:16:05 PM »
That is correct: BRB p.37: "If the bound spell is an innate ability, such as those used by a warrior priest, ...then the model simply cannot cast further bound spells during this phase. Do not roll on the miscast table."
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Re: Question on Warrior Priest Prayers
« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2012, 09:17:51 PM »
1. Don't have the BRB with me, but I'm pretty sure the WP cannot cast anymore prayers if he gets an IF (innate bound spell ability). Other priests can still cast, however, as that only ends the magic phase for him, and not the entire army.
This. Innate bound spell miscasts mean that the Warrior Priest cannot cast anymore that phase. Other Warrior Priests/Wizards can continue though.

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Re: Question on Warrior Priest Prayers
« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2012, 09:45:12 PM »
Ah yeah, I mistyped that. Should have been for that particular WP.

Does everyone agree on the Soulfire part? (not hitting enemies in contact with detachments).
I thought in the old rulebook it specifically mentioned a prayer could only be cast once per phase, but it doesn't say so specifically in the 8th army book, does it?

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Re: Question on Warrior Priest Prayers
« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2012, 09:56:32 PM »
Soulfire only works against enemy models in base contact with the Warrior Priest, so even enemy models in base contact with the rest of the unit will not be effected nevermind the detachment.

It says the prayers are Augument spells, and a spell can only be cast once per phase per wizard.

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Re: Question on Warrior Priest Prayers
« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2012, 10:03:36 PM »
Ah yes my bad.

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Re: Question on Warrior Priest Prayers
« Reply #15 on: April 17, 2012, 05:17:02 AM »
Soulfire only works against enemy models in base contact with the Warrior Priest, so even enemy models in base contact with the rest of the unit will not be effected nevermind the detachment.
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Re: Question on Warrior Priest Prayers
« Reply #16 on: April 17, 2012, 06:55:47 AM »
It says the prayers are Augument spells, and a spell can only be cast once per phase per wizard.
WP =/= wizard :wink:
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Re: Question on Warrior Priest Prayers
« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2012, 08:50:20 AM »
It says the prayers are Augument spells, and a spell can only be cast once per phase per wizard.
WP =/= wizard :wink:
But still, the WP can only (try to) cast each Prayer once in the magic phase?

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Re: Question on Warrior Priest Prayers
« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2012, 08:54:59 AM »
Yes.
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