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Offline Tayrod

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Two Hurricanums +2 to hit
« on: April 18, 2012, 11:42:49 AM »
Title says it all ^^ Has anyone tried it? Do you see it as a viable tactic?

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Re: Two Hurricanums +2 to hit
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2012, 11:43:39 AM »
Sorry, you only get +1 to hit. They don't stack, as stated in the army book.
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Re: Two Hurricanums +2 to hit
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2012, 11:45:14 AM »
Sorry, you only get +1 to hit. They don't stack, as stated in the army book.

Wasn't that the PD?

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Re: Two Hurricanums +2 to hit
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2012, 11:47:26 AM »
Oh, that's right.

Maybe it does stack then.
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Re: Two Hurricanums +2 to hit
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2012, 11:47:58 AM »
Auto hit if you would hit on 3+ then?

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Re: Two Hurricanums +2 to hit
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2012, 11:54:08 AM »
Auto hit if you would hit on 3+ then?

Quite sure you always need a 2 and you always hit with a 6. Different from to wound, where a 1 can be enough and a 6 not enough.

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Re: Two Hurricanums +2 to hit
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2012, 11:55:53 AM »
Not if you have +1 there was this discussion on wounding with the flaming sword on cannons.

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Re: Two Hurricanums +2 to hit
« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2012, 11:57:50 AM »
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Re: Two Hurricanums +2 to hit
« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2012, 11:58:15 AM »
To Hit a natural 1 is always a fail. If they do stack, it will be a 2+ roll.

Edit: Page Reference; BRB pg. 50, Paragraph starts with "If you roll too low..."
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Re: Two Hurricanums +2 to hit
« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2012, 11:58:31 AM »
I thought 6 was always enough to wound now?
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Re: Two Hurricanums +2 to hit
« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2012, 11:59:45 AM »
In any case it is a huge investment and overkill.

I think even a 1 will turn to a 2 if you have +1.
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Re: Two Hurricanums +2 to hit
« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2012, 12:01:23 PM »
I think even a 1 will turn to a 2 if you have +1.

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Re: Two Hurricanums +2 to hit
« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2012, 12:02:00 PM »
Hmmm i doubt this is viable... i have thought of this too, but then i have thought of other effects like two MR or two ward saves not stacking... but on the other hand armor save stack... any other inputs? if thats the case i will try it with a horde of buffed halberds or knights...
Im always playing opponents who have high weapon skill or at least equal mine so i pretty much never hit 3+ so for me +2 would be 2+ anyways...:D

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Re: Two Hurricanums +2 to hit
« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2012, 12:02:47 PM »
Page Reference; BRB pg. 50, Paragraph starts with "If you roll too low..."

Personally, I don't think they do stack, however there is no rule I can see that says otherwise.
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Re: Two Hurricanums +2 to hit
« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2012, 12:10:18 PM »
I thought 6 was always enough to wound now?

No some monsters like the bale taurus and the k'daai destroyer (T6) have a -1 to wound them. Very nasty!

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Re: Two Hurricanums +2 to hit
« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2012, 12:11:54 PM »
I thought 6 was always enough to wound now?

No some monsters like the bale taurus and the k'daai destroyer (T6) have a -1 to wound them. Very nasty!

What on earth are those? I've never heard of them.
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Re: Two Hurricanums +2 to hit
« Reply #16 on: April 18, 2012, 12:12:38 PM »
Not if you have +1 there was this discussion on wounding with the flaming sword on cannons.

"Quite sure you always need a 2 and you always hit with a 6. Different from to wound, where a 1 can be enough and a 6 not enough."

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Re: Two Hurricanums +2 to hit
« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2012, 12:17:46 PM »
I thought 6 was always enough to wound now?

No some monsters like the bale taurus and the k'daai destroyer (T6) have a -1 to wound them. Very nasty!

What on earth are those? I've never heard of them.
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Re: Two Hurricanums +2 to hit
« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2012, 12:19:35 PM »
They are in the Tumarkan and Monster book from forge world. Chaos Dwarf creatures.

Oh. I think I'm very unlikely to encounter those!
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Re: Two Hurricanums +2 to hit
« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2012, 12:25:37 PM »
They are in the Tumarkan and Monster book from forge world. Chaos Dwarf creatures.

Oh. I think I'm very unlikely to encounter those!

We have 2 Chaos Dwarf players :smile2:

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Re: Two Hurricanums +2 to hit
« Reply #20 on: April 18, 2012, 12:27:29 PM »
Just for the record; by RAW, it stacks. (I dont know if it auto-hits though). I think this might work great. Two of those big critters are pretty cheap, and they will have greatswords hitting on 2s and wounding on 2s against standard infantry (with re-roll from warrior priests) *drool*

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Re: Two Hurricanums +2 to hit
« Reply #21 on: April 18, 2012, 12:43:44 PM »
Just for the record; by RAW, it stacks. (I dont know if it auto-hits though). I think this might work great. Two of those big critters are pretty cheap, and they will have greatswords hitting on 2s and wounding on 2s against standard infantry (with re-roll from warrior priests) *drool*

Sounds awesome! Better try it out while I can before GW F.A.Q.'s it and says it doesnt stack then :biggriin:.

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Re: Two Hurricanums +2 to hit
« Reply #22 on: April 18, 2012, 02:01:49 PM »
Just for the record; by RAW, it stacks. (I dont know if it auto-hits though). I think this might work great. Two of those big critters are pretty cheap, and they will have greatswords hitting on 2s and wounding on 2s against standard infantry (with re-roll from warrior priests) *drool*
I will repeat this, it will not auto-hit. BRB pg. 50, Paragraph starts with "If you roll too low...", the paragraph goes onto say (following is not word for word) 'a natural roll of 1 will always fail'. Stacking at the moment is okay, although I wouldn't expect every opponent to be 100% happy with this, but auto-hits are out.

As for tactics, personally I think a better use for two would be a wider range of +1's instead of a short range of +2's.

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Re: Two Hurricanums +2 to hit
« Reply #23 on: April 18, 2012, 03:03:47 PM »
The difference between 'to-hit' and 'to-wound' when it comes to minimums is that, as furball has pointed out 3 times, it is written that a 1 always fails when rolling 'to hit'.  This rule is not present for 'to-wound' rolls.
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