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« on: May 02, 2012, 05:47:40 PM »
I have the Kurt model in metal now, and was looking for inspiration, then came across this!!!!

fffuuuu ********  kkkkk meeeeeeeeee!

i'll just give up and dip all my models in acid!

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« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2012, 05:51:26 PM »
That would have to be most impressive NNM I've ever seen  :eusa_clap:
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« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2012, 05:56:05 PM »
It is very good indeed - wonderful mastery of the technique, very well done, lots of lovely detail and a very realistic effect.

I must say - as good as it is - I just don't care much for it. It is absolutely brilliantly done and certainly not merely "technically good" - but I must say I prefer a lot of the stuff I see here. Something about it is just not to my taste.
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« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2012, 07:06:04 PM »
it's been photo shopped to fit the background, and cleaned up, but generally it's incredible, godlike,

i need to try the same technique , but that would require a lot of time

maybe 30 hours
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« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2012, 07:42:28 PM »
Letīs gather every heavy weapon in the Empire and blow that guy to pieces!
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« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2012, 06:14:36 AM »
it's been photo shopped to fit the background,


Minor annoyance, but I did find that irritating too. Especially in the close ups. A regular photo against a decent & neutral background would have been better.

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« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2012, 09:39:54 AM »
Yea, that is some crazy painting. NMM perfected. But since there are so much shinines going on everywhere on the model it does look a bit busy in my eyes. A showpiece of some world class skill with the brush thou. Better go practice :)

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« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2012, 09:44:06 AM »
His/their witchhunter isnt bad either....yikes!!!
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« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2012, 12:08:17 PM »
That model is astounding!
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« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2012, 01:31:56 PM »
Looks like everything on it is painted NMM though.
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« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2012, 01:46:38 PM »
Yeah.  When done right that can look amazing.  I like metals though.
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« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2012, 04:56:24 PM »
I think what really makes it amazing is the really smooth gradient the painter achieved. Color choices are also great -- I love the blue in the steel. I also like the little bits of glare/sparkle on some of the gold stuff (like the sword hilt/pommel/whatever.)

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« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2012, 06:16:05 PM »
It is very good indeed - wonderful mastery of the technique, very well done, lots of lovely detail and a very realistic effect.

I must say - as good as it is - I just don't care much for it. It is absolutely brilliantly done and certainly not merely "technically good" - but I must say I prefer a lot of the stuff I see here. Something about it is just not to my taste.

The paint job is  :-o::heretic:::eusa_wall::eusa_clap:, et c., et c. It really is. I sincerely admire it and could never hope to achieve anything like it.

BUT

I still agree with Darknight. Except for the skill as such, there is not much about it that is unexpected or personal. It is a perfect execution of an NMM Kurt Helborg, but it does not challenge my expectations of what a perfect execution of an NMM Kurt Helborg would look like.

Oh well. This took me nearly two days to figure out but I'm still not sure I make any sense. And besides I feel stupid to complain about such a lovely paint job. I'll just go shut up now.

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« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2012, 07:00:10 PM »
Yeah Maza, I am not following your last post.

I cannot honestly think of how that model could ever possibly be done better than what that model right there looks like.  It is astounding on every level.

On the other hand, I am satisfied with the quality of my models relative the limited time I have to give them.
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« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2012, 07:30:47 PM »
I don't really like it....
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« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2012, 07:49:59 PM »
You don't like what about it?  There is a difference between dislike the style and disliking the paint job itself.  I am not a big fan of the NMM look, but when I look at that model I am blown away by the ability of the painter.
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« Reply #16 on: May 03, 2012, 07:54:57 PM »
I don't really like nmm, but apart from the black barding which I like, I really dislike the rest of the nmm, and have seen better versions of it.

I'm sure it is good technically, but I don't like it at all. I'ts nothing special to look at, for me.
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« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2012, 07:59:00 PM »
Yeah, I am amazd at the techical ability, but I totally understand your feelings on the whole picture.
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« Reply #18 on: May 03, 2012, 08:06:03 PM »
I understand (and agree with) Maza. My draw literally dropped at the skill, but it feels somehow... impersonal. In the same way that people's armies that look exactly like the GW armies feel impersonal, no matter how proficient the paint job is.
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« Reply #19 on: May 03, 2012, 08:45:56 PM »
Yeah Maza, I am not following your last post.

I cannot honestly think of how that model could ever possibly be done better than what that model right there looks like.  It is astounding on every level.

On the other hand, I am satisfied with the quality of my models relative the limited time I have to give them.

I'm also blown away by the ability of the painter. But there is nothing else about it that blows me away - no unexpected and therefore stimulating colour contrasts, for example, no personal "interpretation" of Helborg as a character.

I guess that just as I can find qualities to like in a paint job that is technically very humble, I can find things to complain about in a job that is technically flawless (or close to it).  :-)

(I am not trying to compare my own humble attempts with this, of course, in any respect.)

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« Reply #20 on: May 03, 2012, 09:39:16 PM »
Do you mean in terms of conversion work?  I am not sure I am ever deeply impressed by color choice.  Conversions impress me, but if this guy is legitimately trying to represent Kurt, then he is sort of locked into what he can do.
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« Reply #21 on: May 04, 2012, 06:46:12 AM »
I have the Kurt model in metal now, and was looking for inspiration, then came across this!!!!

fffuuuu ********  kkkkk meeeeeeeeee!

i'll just give up and dip all my models in acid!

http://www.coolminiornot.com/276460?browseid=1461261

That's funny Mr Chumley, that's how most of your pics make me feel lol, along with "how the bloody hell does he do it so quick!" I've been working on my hurricanum for 3 weeks already and I haven't got the fething orrery yet...

I've got to admit, looking at that Kurt does make me feel a little like a high school art student visiting the cistine chapel, somewhat beyond my reach methinks...
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« Reply #22 on: May 04, 2012, 07:00:17 AM »
While the NMM is staggering good I find the green (from the laurels) almost crude in comparison. It would have been even better if the painter had spend as much attention to the NM parts as to the NMM.
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« Reply #23 on: May 04, 2012, 03:01:59 PM »
Do you mean in terms of conversion work?  I am not sure I am ever deeply impressed by color choice.  Conversions impress me, but if this guy is legitimately trying to represent Kurt, then he is sort of locked into what he can do.

I'm not sure i can say one particular aspect such as "conversion" or "colour choice".

This will probably boil down to personal taste preferences soon, but just for the fun of it, let me try to explain by giving an example from the B&P.

It is an example of both technical skill and "conceptual skill" or whatever we should call it, which made quite an impression on me: cjp's Reiksguard foot knights (I hope cjp is fine with me using this example).



Look at the use of many different colours and contrasts, the use of both NMM and MM and the freehand goodies. Consider the clever use of symbols from occultist societies, which opens for associations of the Reiksguard to mysterious, secretive orders with their own symbols and rituals.

This paint job does not just express "what we know the Reiksguard looks like". To me, this is "what you had no idea that the Reiksguard SHOULD look like". It is a personal interpretation, a suggestion if you like, with consequenses even for fluff et c.

The Helborg job - as wonderful as it is - is still just "what we know that KH looks like". The artist's purpose is probably to use a perfected NMM technique on a model that lends itself well to it, not to make personal interpretations of a concept. This is, of course, perfectly legitimate and in itself an interesting project, but such a purpose will necessarily lead to a result with fewer dimensions. We can admire the technique, and the artists understanding of reflecting light, but there is not much more to admire.

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« Reply #24 on: May 04, 2012, 03:37:34 PM »
But what is wrong with attempting to create the perfect example of Kurt? I am not really impressed with the reiksguard you present.  They aren't bad, but they don't make my jaw drop my any stretch.  Just because many colors are used, that doesn't really afffect my feelings on a model.  In many cases, I think throwing too much in there can detract from a model.  I think feather shades take away from the appearance of the models being from a single regiment.
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