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Offline FriscoEmpire

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Challenge Questions (Units vs Sole Characters)
« on: July 28, 2012, 02:18:43 PM »
Three parts to this one . . . though Part B is most important to me . . .  I'm hoping some of you guys with more experience can clarify this challenge stuff a bit more.  The BRB seems rather scant on so important a topic.

Part A:  If an enemy unit charges my Captain on Pegasus, and I elect to flee in reaction . . . since lone figures can pivot, any chance that means I can flee in any direction I want?  Or am I forced to charge exactly away from the enemy?   (I figure it's probably the latter.)

Part B:  If I accept their charge and their champion challenges my Captain on Pegasus ... and we step aside to duke it out ... Does the rest of his unit just stand there and watch?  (And do they continue to stand there and watch until the combat is over?  And if so, can I start throwing other troops at them?  And if I do, do they fight separately while the challenge continues on its own?)

Part C:  At the end of each round of the challenge bout, do I calculate a Combat Result based on the entire enemy unit's presence (for example, would they get their rank bonus and standard bonus and all that)?  I can see how this could result in my Captain taking flight.  I can't imagine you have to stick around and fight to the death.


Bonus Question:  If a unit charges my lone figure, and since lone figures can pivot at will, is it actually possible to hit a free-standing lone figure in the flank or rear, since it would reasonably just turn around to face the attack coming at it?

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Re: Challenge Questions (Units vs Sole Characters)
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2012, 02:45:26 PM »
A. Under charge reactions, when you flee, you immediately turn the model/unit about its center so it is facing directly away from the center of the enemy unit and then move in that dirction.

B. The rest of his unit just stands there -- kind of like in the scene from the movie Troy where Patroclus and Hector duel in the middle of the battle (and just an fyi, you don't actually physically step aside outside of the unit). The rest of the unit stands there until the challenge is concluded. The only thing that can contribute to the challenge is a mount being ridden by the participants. And yes, you could charge the unit with one of your own and fight as normal.

C. Yes, you would calculate any wounds caused in the challenge and then all the other factors -- how many ranks, banners, charging, etc.

Lone Characters cannot pivot at will -- they move during their Movement Phase where they can pivot to their heart's content -- except when charging as they still have to wheel and only get one). Lone Characters are treated as units of the appropriate troop type for all rules purposes, so yes, they have arcs just like units, so they can be charged in the flank and rear.

« Last Edit: July 28, 2012, 02:49:30 PM by Syn Ace »
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Offline MrAbyssal

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Re: Challenge Questions (Units vs Sole Characters)
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2012, 02:49:30 PM »
Part A: The latter. Always directly away from the enemy

Parts B and C: Yes to all

Bonus: You don't get to pivot when charging or charged, even if you're a single model. A single model still has forward, flank and rear arcs. It can only charge in his front arc with a single pivot (instead of a wheel), but otherwise like any other unit. If it's charged in the flank or rear it has to suck it up until he can legally perform a combat reform (free if you won, leadership test if you lost and after combat resolution and break tests in both cases).
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Re: Challenge Questions (Units vs Sole Characters)
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2012, 02:51:22 PM »
A single model doesn't get a pivot during a charge -- it gets a regular wheel and close the door (p27). Might sound like I'm being nit picky, but I could see someone thinking they get a pivot and then doing something funky. They still make you wheel from one corner like a regular unit.
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