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Offline PhillyT

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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #275 on: June 04, 2017, 07:09:10 PM »
This can't be true.  Its a case of Fake News.  Orks can't be one of the top armies in 40k.
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Offline Aldaris

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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #276 on: June 04, 2017, 07:24:22 PM »
I know, right? Orks and Nids. Bizarre!

Tau are also very good still, they did say though that their playstyle probably changed the most. Riptides took the bat to the face pretty hard, apparently. The gist was "it's not terrible, you can still take one no problem. But if you played Riptide spam you won't be happy".

Crisis suits reportedly amazing now. T5 3W, 3 weapons systems (that they can all fire every round), plus their mobility.

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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #277 on: June 04, 2017, 08:07:41 PM »
Nice summary! 👆 Aldaris a couple of responses up.
Getting pumped😺
« Last Edit: June 04, 2017, 10:09:16 PM by Artobans Ghost »
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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #278 on: June 04, 2017, 08:34:45 PM »
Tabletop Tactics also had a nice review done
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faEsrkUPwoU

and a great batrep with some really funny moments
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGLqw2kRXeM
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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #279 on: June 04, 2017, 09:34:24 PM »
If you played riptide spam you already weren't happy.
I don't care about the rules.

Pass the machete.

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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #280 on: June 05, 2017, 01:12:53 AM »
Here's a link to mongoose matts blog regarding the new 40k rules and game. Pretty brief but thumbs up!

https://ttgamingdiary.wordpress.com/
Mathi Alfblut Feb 4,2017
Simple, You gut the bastard with your sword, the viking way.
Questions?

Mathi Alfblut Dec 9,2017
Get a binge of Yule ale, roasted boar and some proper axes and we will ALL be happy again!

GP Aug 8, 2019
Can we just take a hammer to it, smash it into little bits.

Offline Aldaris

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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #281 on: June 05, 2017, 07:23:13 AM »
That's another thing. I've been in this hobby for a while, and I'm pretty sure I've never seen any GW release be so universally well received. There's almost no doom and gloom around it, as far as I can see. No "maybe it won't be so bad in play?", no "well, tournament organizers will come up with something to fix it". Sure, there is some grumbling, but it's mostly related to "my unit x sucks now, when I compare its stats with the former version" or "this ruleset will be too simple" (which I don't think is true - some people confuse "10000 pages of rules" with "depth").

Overall, the almost universal positivity is pretty much unprecedented. I like it!

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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #282 on: June 06, 2017, 12:38:17 AM »
I'm thinking about getting back into the hobby because of this. After all I have a ton of unpainted Space Wolf models sitting in a storage unit that deserve some paint and some games...
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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #283 on: June 06, 2017, 01:25:25 AM »
Welcome back! I havnt seen that avatar for a while. Unpainted spacewolves ...sounds like my army except for some bloodclaws. They need to fight!
Mathi Alfblut Feb 4,2017
Simple, You gut the bastard with your sword, the viking way.
Questions?

Mathi Alfblut Dec 9,2017
Get a binge of Yule ale, roasted boar and some proper axes and we will ALL be happy again!

GP Aug 8, 2019
Can we just take a hammer to it, smash it into little bits.

Offline cisse

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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #284 on: June 06, 2017, 12:21:33 PM »
I'm excited to play again, indeed. Both with my Space Wolves and (and this was a bit less so the last year/months) with my Imperial Guard. Space Marines in general look like they play a bit more "elite" now, which is good. And the Guard... With their order "get back in the fight" allowing them to fall back and fire, it seems like it is worthwhile to play a true defensive line of infantry now. Great!

Looking forward to make the first lists.
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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #285 on: June 07, 2017, 11:28:13 AM »
what are people thinking about the extras?

I don't think the wound dice are good value. they're just d10s and d20s.
and the objectives are too much for me.

I might buy the cards and the command dice, though?
The command dice are 12.50 though!
I don't care about the rules.

Pass the machete.

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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #286 on: June 07, 2017, 11:45:34 AM »
what are people thinking about the extras?

I don't think the wound dice are good value. they're just d10s and d20s.
and the objectives are too much for me.

I might buy the cards and the command dice, though?
The command dice are 12.50 though!

Wound dice are to much for me also.. I have enough Magic Dice still left to be used

The command Dice might be a bit pricey but they look great! So I did order a set. And the Cards is easy for use in game instead of a book(let) having to flip through.
And the Objectives I did order not for the objectives them selfs but they make great scenery pieces as well. (I don't have alot of Scenery anyway)

Psyked to see the game this evening on Twitch/Warhammer between Tau and Khorne
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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #287 on: June 07, 2017, 12:08:05 PM »
I ordered the Rulebook, all 5 indexes, and the tactical objectives.

The wound trackers are just dice, and the command dice set... Well they look nice but to be honest I'd never use them. The only thing you reallly need to keep track of is 1) models lost each turn for battle shock, which is easy enough to do by laying the models on their side next to the unit and 2) whether you advanced or fell back, as you can't shoot then. I will perhaps use the Warzone Armageddon trackers for that, they look nice as well.

The objectives are a bit situational as they will not always look right with each terrain type and anyway, again I'd hardly use them.
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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #288 on: June 07, 2017, 05:58:52 PM »
Vehicles have melee attacks now? Even planes!
They do. Some are rather nasty, as well. A bit silly imho but look forward to try it out.

As far as melee for aircraft, I was looking at a couple datasheets for SP. Marine craft and saw the rule Airborne: it cannot charge and can only be charged by units that Fly, and can only attack or be attacked in the Fight phase by units that can Fly. Looks like it loses that rule (and Hard to Hit and Supersonic) temporarily if it Hovers.
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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #289 on: June 07, 2017, 10:34:16 PM »
I can't wait to charge fliers with my jetpack boyz!
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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #290 on: June 07, 2017, 10:43:43 PM »
Yeah, jumping straight up and punching an aircraft out of the sky with your powerfist is very 40K!
 :-D

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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #291 on: June 08, 2017, 12:32:55 AM »
I can't wait to charge fliers with my jetpack boyz!
Yeah, jumping straight up and punching an aircraft out of the sky with your powerfist is very 40K!
 :-D

Bloody hell!! Awesome!👆
Mathi Alfblut Feb 4,2017
Simple, You gut the bastard with your sword, the viking way.
Questions?

Mathi Alfblut Dec 9,2017
Get a binge of Yule ale, roasted boar and some proper axes and we will ALL be happy again!

GP Aug 8, 2019
Can we just take a hammer to it, smash it into little bits.

Offline Mathi Alfblut

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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #292 on: June 08, 2017, 05:37:12 AM »
WAAAGH! Shame I sold my orkz
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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #293 on: June 08, 2017, 12:37:12 PM »
WAAAGH! Shame I sold my orkz

That Mathi, is a real crime.....really a crime.
Mathi Alfblut Feb 4,2017
Simple, You gut the bastard with your sword, the viking way.
Questions?

Mathi Alfblut Dec 9,2017
Get a binge of Yule ale, roasted boar and some proper axes and we will ALL be happy again!

GP Aug 8, 2019
Can we just take a hammer to it, smash it into little bits.

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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #294 on: June 11, 2017, 12:47:33 AM »
Welcome back! I havnt seen that avatar for a while. Unpainted spacewolves ...sounds like my army except for some bloodclaws. They need to fight!
Thanks. It's been a minute since they've left the box.

I can't wait to charge fliers with my jetpack boyz!


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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #295 on: June 11, 2017, 01:17:37 AM »
EXACTLY
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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #296 on: June 11, 2017, 01:53:50 AM »
Wish I had a pic of that for my wall. Sums up everything I like about orks. 👆
Mathi Alfblut Feb 4,2017
Simple, You gut the bastard with your sword, the viking way.
Questions?

Mathi Alfblut Dec 9,2017
Get a binge of Yule ale, roasted boar and some proper axes and we will ALL be happy again!

GP Aug 8, 2019
Can we just take a hammer to it, smash it into little bits.

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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #297 on: June 11, 2017, 11:43:48 AM »
Do red ones go fasta?

And that picture is great!  Stormboyz to the skies!
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Offline Aldaris

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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #298 on: June 11, 2017, 02:53:58 PM »
Do red ones go fasta?

Not in the index, no. Although GW have made clear that the indexes are intended to tide people over until actual codices arrive (which will presumably have more detail and options).

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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #299 on: June 11, 2017, 05:48:00 PM »
Also really nice to hear those Vox casts, in one they mentioned that they now have options with the Stratagems to add new rules to aid in recreating certain lore events.
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