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Offline Xathrodox86

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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #300 on: June 13, 2017, 11:55:15 AM »
Also really nice to hear those Vox casts, in one they mentioned that they now have options with the Stratagems to add new rules to aid in recreating certain lore events.

I've also heard about the narrative campaigns, in which the players will dictate the future of the setting.

I hope it won't end like with the old 13th Black Crusade campaign, or the Storm of Chaos for WFB, glorious that it was.
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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #301 on: June 13, 2017, 03:02:26 PM »
I think they've learned to keep the global campaigns to areas that don't have major fluff implications. Instead of fighting to see if the entire Imperium gets destroyed, they've figured out that you can fight for an important planet (That no ones heard of till now).

It lets the results actualy mean something, without endangering the setting.

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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #302 on: June 13, 2017, 03:09:45 PM »
I think that this next campaign will take place on Konor, a Forgeworld in Ultramar. It is described in a few BL books, like "Fear to thread".
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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #303 on: June 17, 2017, 09:59:10 AM »
Anyone got their goodies?
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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #304 on: June 17, 2017, 11:16:40 AM »
Mine should be delivered today. PhillyT told me he had received his yesterday!
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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #305 on: June 17, 2017, 12:31:01 PM »
Just throwing this in for some flesh tearers fluff plus primaris marine builds.  As it turns out, mongoosematt, who is a big AoS fan, also wrote the chapter fluff on these guys.  More mysteries revealed 😸

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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #306 on: June 17, 2017, 05:38:41 PM »
My LFGS has some books left after a release party last night evidently. Debating on picking one up but I'm going back to Korea and don't want to have to work out how I'll pack so soon. May just wait an order it when I get there.
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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #307 on: June 17, 2017, 08:13:59 PM »
Got my stuffs!! and a small poster and the clear range ruler as a bonus, but my mail order Drones aren't yet..
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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #308 on: June 17, 2017, 11:11:55 PM »
Mine has arrived and I have cut it up a bit. Yay!
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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #309 on: June 18, 2017, 12:27:43 AM »
I was in the store and watching all the excited people starting to build theirs, but holding off on my own for now. Got to save up and see who wants to split on stuff around me.

Actually liked the look of the index books. Might go back to pick up the ones I need before I get the set.

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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #310 on: June 19, 2017, 05:12:14 PM »
Gankom, which models do you want to keep out of the box?  I have a buddy who will but the Chaos portion off you if you want to split it off.
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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #311 on: June 19, 2017, 05:53:28 PM »
Your buddy is going to have the biggest Chaos army this side of the Eye of Terror . . .
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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #312 on: June 19, 2017, 07:19:50 PM »
Sorry Philly, I already have a line up of people around here to split with. Most likely I'm going to split with my brother and end up with the death guard to start a chaos force. If I come across anyone who wants to sell their chaos forces (or primaris) I'll post it up here. I don't mind middlemaning stuff to whoever wants it.

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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #313 on: June 19, 2017, 07:22:00 PM »
I made a dedicated swap thread in the Trading Post, although only Philly and I have used it so far.
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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #314 on: June 19, 2017, 09:53:43 PM »
Well 1 for 1 is certainly better then 1 for none. Sounds like it's two happy people.

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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #315 on: June 19, 2017, 10:45:49 PM »
No worries, I think my buddy has more than enough to deal with right now!

In other news we played a bunch of games over the weekend.  I really like the new system.  Orks are awesome.
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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #316 on: June 20, 2017, 04:46:34 PM »
I have my stuff (just got one starter box and the index for Chaos), and looks good for now. The Index has all the basics for running my Chaos Army, with the following exceptions:

- no artifacts (i.e. Axe of Blind Fury); notes in the main rule book state these will come out when the main codex comes out.
- no bonus for marks. You can give any CSM the Mark of Khorne, but it doesn't give him extra attack/+1 S/etc. It doesn't COST anything, but it doesn't DO anything. Granted, if I give him the mark keyword "Khorne" and make him "World Eaters" legion keyword, and Kharn happens to be within 1", he gets to re-roll 1s to hit, or something like that.
- all the Legions are mentioned, but only World Eaters, Thousand Sons, Death Guard and Emperor's Children have specific notes, and even they don't provide any bonuses unless you bring the related special character.
- there is only one Chaos lore, 3 spells, that's it. No specific lore for Tzeentch/Nurgle/Slaanesh. Also, your sorcerer is set at two spells, and can attempt to deny one. No upgrades.

As for the Daemons, all looks good, but again, no relics/artifacts, but each Chaos god gets a bonus (Khorne Daemons, for instance, get +1 S when they charge AND get charged), and each Chaos god gets it's own lore for the psychic phase.

I am assuming much of the above that is missing will be taken care of when the actual codex for the army drops, which leads me to think of a possible problem. If they are going to drop codexs like they used too, the army that get's it's codex first will be more than a bit overpowered, and there will be a serious imbalance until the other army codexs start dropping. I'll feel bad for the guy who has to wait another 18-24 months for his codex to drop as he tries to play against a guy who's codex drops next month or so. Maybe they will release them all at once??? Digital???

Haven't played any games yet, but we are looking to roll some dice this weekend. My entire group is VERY excited about this release, and it has even brought back guys who gave up on GW years ago. It's a good time for 40K. :)
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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #317 on: June 20, 2017, 04:50:42 PM »
Yeah, you'll get the fun stuff when the army drops.

So anyone look at the rules for Landraiders?  It says terminators take the space of two other models.  The "other" part makes it seem like they take up three spaces.  That can't be though, since that means you couldn't fit a minimal sized terminator unit into a landraider...
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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #318 on: June 20, 2017, 05:09:57 PM »
"Two other models" means, I think, "two models other than Terminators". That is a fair reading.
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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #319 on: June 20, 2017, 05:11:15 PM »
WHich is why I think its a misprint.  That means only the crusader can even accept terminators for transport.
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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #320 on: June 20, 2017, 05:23:59 PM »
Sorry, I think I was unclear in trying to explain the unclear thing. :)

I read it as meaning "each Terminator takes up the space occupied by two non-Terminator models". "Other models" does not mean "other in addition to the Terminator" but rather "other as distinct from the Terminator". A Terminator is (in this sentence) "a model". Anything else is "an other model".

If we reverse the statement, it might be easier to understand - "A Landraider may carry 5 Terminators. Other models occupy half the space of a Terminator."
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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #321 on: June 20, 2017, 08:59:21 PM »
Sorry, I think I was unclear in trying to explain the unclear thing. :)

I read it as meaning "each Terminator takes up the space occupied by two non-Terminator models". "Other models" does not mean "other in addition to the Terminator" but rather "other as distinct from the Terminator". A Terminator is (in this sentence) "a model". Anything else is "an other model".

If we reverse the statement, it might be easier to understand - "A Landraider may carry 5 Terminators. Other models occupy half the space of a Terminator."

I read it the same as Darknight. Don't see any change of carrying capacity of Landraiders or other transports from 7th to 8th.

Plus my Chaos Landraider now has Daemonic Machine Spirit! BWAHAHAHAHA!  :evil:
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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #322 on: June 20, 2017, 10:10:55 PM »
I got all my stuff today. First change ive noted on lists is that IG Vet squads can now have three special weapons and a heavy flamer rather than just two specials and the HF.

My 2000pts list from 7th is now 2179pts in 8th, power level 124

Vox and medi kits are much more attractive for command squads now and melta have gone up to 12 while plasmas down to 7 with no overheat unless you supercharge it. I will change the load out of my two four melta gun command squads i think, shift one melta into the vet squads to make three and add in vox to them and the squads.

Im looking forward to my FW IG book so i can see the drop troop list And re cost that army.
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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #323 on: June 20, 2017, 10:24:19 PM »
My 2000pts list from 7th is now 2179pts in 8th, power level 124

Everyone I know who has put together their 7th list as an 8th list has gone over in points anywhere from 200-300. I think a lot of that has to do with many formations in 7th giving you "free" stuff, like transports or chaos marks. Haven't tried my CSM list yet, but I'm assuming it will be over.
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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #324 on: June 21, 2017, 09:23:35 AM »
So how viable would be to use 6 Leman Russ BT's? I have quite a few and was wondering, how good are they now?
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