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Offline Finlay

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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #650 on: December 12, 2017, 03:12:06 PM »
sorry, yes! can charge but its a 9 incher, can't move first basically guaranteeing the charge goes off.


the things I mentioned were absolutely critical in my games- obviously influenced from fr1days meta.

Is it similar where you are Steg? I'm wondering how globally applicable his meta is!
« Last Edit: December 12, 2017, 03:17:04 PM by Finlay »
I don't care about the rules.

Pass the machete.

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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #651 on: December 12, 2017, 09:20:17 PM »
Alpha strike is a common style. You have a 28% chance that goes up to 48% if you get a re-roll. The infiltration tactic is the best for charging, you just need first turn otherwise you're out in the open so you have to deploy more defensively. You are likely to have more limited space to deploy in as well.
There are 40 different shades of black, so many fortresses and ways to attack.

So why you complaining!

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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #652 on: December 13, 2017, 12:22:35 PM »
Holy crap, looks like I'm in for one hell of a ride. I have 9 LR, a Manticore, a Basilisk and a Vendetta. Plus 3 Sentinels and a crap ton of infantry. I can try and assemble my Avenger Strike Fighter. Do you think it could be useful?

BTW we're playing a 1000 vs 1000 pts. game.
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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #653 on: December 13, 2017, 01:13:45 PM »
sorry, yes! can charge but its a 9 incher, can't move first basically guaranteeing the charge goes off.


the things I mentioned were absolutely critical in my games- obviously influenced from fr1days meta.

Is it similar where you are Steg? I'm wondering how globally applicable his meta is!

Can't say really as I have not met a Tyranid player against me yet, but for several lists it is common to have some sort of deepstriking.. last game (yesterday) was against Craftworlds he had 2 units of Swooping Hawks.. annoying little buggers that can fly up also and deep strike the following turn again.. very good objective grabbers like that and a crap ton of shots also (assault 4, 24", S3, AP0, D1)

I myself use depstrike as well with Stealthsuits Homing Beacon with which I can ignore the 9" from enemymodels.. just park my Flamer Crisis in the 6" bubble and flame-on! (9D6 if I feel cheeky or 6D6 auto hits and aided with 3 Fusion Blasters for some tank busting) and 6 Gun drones for extra dakka (6x4 shots) or Shield Drones to make my crisis suits very durable.
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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #654 on: December 13, 2017, 03:05:28 PM »
I've got a tau army in boxes in my garage, and I'm pretty tempted to get them out and repaint them!

i always loved the suits, and deepstrike shenanigans suits sounds fun.

What do you use for objective grabbing in maelstrom and the like?
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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #655 on: December 13, 2017, 09:29:06 PM »
I've got a tau army in boxes in my garage, and I'm pretty tempted to get them out and repaint them!

i always loved the suits, and deepstrike shenanigans suits sounds fun.

What do you use for objective grabbing in maelstrom and the like?

Well I'm just starting with my collection, but I think the Coldstar Commander with it's 20" move 40" advance is super for that and the durability of the ghostkeel is suberb plus also a 12" base move. Same on the durability for Stealtsuits, but they lack in fire power.
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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #656 on: December 15, 2017, 07:29:46 AM »
Holy crap, looks like I'm in for one hell of a ride. I have 9 LR, a Manticore, a Basilisk and a Vendetta. Plus 3 Sentinels and a crap ton of infantry. I can try and assemble my Avenger Strike Fighter. Do you think it could be useful?

BTW we're playing a 1000 vs 1000 pts. game.

Tanks to take out the big stuff, I like the LR and the basilisk. Basic LR with no side sponsons for the main tanks (2 or 3) and I often use a tank commander as well - mostly an executioner LR with plasma cannons.

A crap ton of infantry to bubble wrap them and keep them safe from assault. You don't want your tanks in combats since they can't shoot the next turn.
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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #657 on: December 15, 2017, 11:34:16 AM »
I have 4 Inf Squads, 3 Stormtrooper Squads, 3 HW Squads and some Support Weapon Squads. I also have 2 Command Squads and a pack of Ogryns. I should be good. Are flyers still as viable, as they were in 7th edition?
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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #658 on: December 15, 2017, 11:41:03 AM »
I think they're good, but much easier to shoot down. only -1 to hit now.
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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #659 on: December 15, 2017, 11:41:52 AM »
I'm taking my Vendetta then. Should prove to be useful.
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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #660 on: December 15, 2017, 12:55:51 PM »
The vendetta is quite poor. Itís at -1 to hit if it moves so only hitting on 5+ most of time. It also didnít gain extra rules the valk did in the codex, the +1 to hit if it stays still. Vulture is better as a gunship.
There are 40 different shades of black, so many fortresses and ways to attack.

So why you complaining!

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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #661 on: December 15, 2017, 02:01:12 PM »
Vulture it is then. :smile2: I'll post results after the battle.
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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #662 on: December 15, 2017, 02:02:45 PM »
Vulture it is then. :smile2: I'll post results after the battle.

Praise the Guard! Nothing but victory and complete annialation of the enemy will be excepted 😺
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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #663 on: December 15, 2017, 02:07:27 PM »
Vulture it is then. :smile2: I'll post results after the battle.

Praise the Guard! Nothing but victory and complete annialation of the enemy will be excepted 😺

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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #664 on: December 15, 2017, 02:26:43 PM »
Vulture it is then. :smile2: I'll post results after the battle.

Praise the Guard! Nothing but victory and complete annialation of the enemy will be excepted 😺

"Forward Men! Do you want to live forever?!" :icon_twisted:

Because you wonít in 8th ed! Only tanks survive the battle now.
There are 40 different shades of black, so many fortresses and ways to attack.

So why you complaining!

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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #665 on: December 15, 2017, 02:44:55 PM »
Quote Xath:  :icon_twisted:


Nice icon! 😺
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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #666 on: December 15, 2017, 05:30:03 PM »
Vulture it is then. :smile2: I'll post results after the battle.

Praise the Guard! Nothing but victory and complete annialation of the enemy will be excepted 😺

"Forward Men! Do you want to live forever?!" :icon_twisted:

Because you wonít in 8th ed! Only tanks survive the battle now.

My meatshield... er troops, actually have a fair number survive the battle. Usually BECAUSE my opponent targets the tanks and ignores them. So I pack them with plasma and melta's to burn his face off. Cadia Burns Stands!

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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #667 on: December 15, 2017, 11:08:04 PM »
I will provide a (meat)shield for my glorious tanks. With a bit of artillery and air support it should suffice. The Emperor protects. :smile2:
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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #668 on: December 26, 2017, 04:49:21 PM »
I've been waiting for a new GUO model for some time, and GW has answered! Even has options:

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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #669 on: December 28, 2017, 10:55:28 AM »
The game went well. I've won and it was a nice and balanced match. New Nids are definitely a strong and balanced force, as well as the new Guard. Leman Russes are downright hardcore and Vulture munched a whole squad of Warriors in a single turn. I love the simple and intuitive rules. Next game will be on 2.01 - my Alpha Legion vs friend's Dark Angels or SM. We'll see how it will go.
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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #670 on: December 28, 2017, 10:49:11 PM »
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege.

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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #671 on: December 29, 2017, 12:23:54 AM »
The game went well. I've won and it was a nice and balanced match. New Nids are definitely a strong and balanced force, as well as the new Guard. Leman Russes are downright hardcore and Vulture munched a whole squad of Warriors in a single turn. I love the simple and intuitive rules. Next game will be on 2.01 - my Alpha Legion vs friend's Dark Angels or SM. We'll see how it will go.

Ah I see, a true battle to determine who the REAL loyalists are! Kidding of course, I know all about the secrets of the dark angels....

My Russes have been awesome brutes. They can absorb so much more damage and not risk getting 1 shot KO'd. I usually end up running a vanquisher because that's what I built it as. Its not as effective as some of the other options, but I usually manage to snipe a good number of wounds here and there.

What Regimental Doctrine did you use? Generally I've been rolling with the Cadian or Tallarn one.

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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #672 on: December 29, 2017, 10:58:19 AM »
I've used Cadian, but forgot about it during the game. I'm thinking Catachan for my next game or maybe Tallarn.
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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #673 on: December 29, 2017, 01:35:20 PM »
Catachan is best if only going with random shot turret weapons and heavy flamers. Tallarn if going full sponsons. Cadian is very static minded approach.
There are 40 different shades of black, so many fortresses and ways to attack.

So why you complaining!

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Re: 8th edition on route.
« Reply #674 on: December 29, 2017, 01:54:29 PM »
What about Mordian and the FW ones? They any good?
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