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Re: Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay 4th Edition
« Reply #125 on: May 04, 2018, 12:36:10 PM »
I'm looking forward to learning Xanth's and Oxycutor's views on the new release. :icon_cool:

I'll try and grab a copy in June. I'll be reviewing it for sure, but right now that cash is a bit tight.

I'm really optimistic about this release though. The artworks look really nice! :blush:
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Re: Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay 4th Edition
« Reply #126 on: May 07, 2018, 04:03:34 PM »
I've pre-ordered.  I think I get a chance to get the .pdfs in June, and physical copy isn't until July.

That said, they said they will have stuff to show at Warhammer Fest, and I'm going to that next week, so I might be able to find out some detail, or even have a flick through of the rulebook, if I'm really lucky

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Re: Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay 4th Edition
« Reply #127 on: May 08, 2018, 01:12:39 PM »
I've pre-ordered.  I think I get a chance to get the .pdfs in June, and physical copy isn't until July.

That said, they said they will have stuff to show at Warhammer Fest, and I'm going to that next week, so I might be able to find out some detail, or even have a flick through of the rulebook, if I'm really lucky

Would be really awesome to hear some snippets from that trip. :blush:
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Re: Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay 4th Edition
« Reply #128 on: May 08, 2018, 02:56:57 PM »
I'm constantly looking to check this thread to learn more!
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Re: Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay 4th Edition
« Reply #129 on: May 11, 2018, 01:05:27 AM »
I'm constantly looking to check this thread to learn more!

Me too..I really like what I'm hearing about 4th edition!! :::cheers:::  not sure about the AoS supplement though  :dry:
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Re: Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay 4th Edition
« Reply #130 on: May 11, 2018, 09:13:07 AM »
I'm constantly looking to check this thread to learn more!

Me too..I really like what I'm hearing about 4th edition!! :::cheers:::  not sure about the AoS supplement though  :dry:

AoS RPG will be a completely separate game, not a supplement for WFRP.

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Re: Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay 4th Edition
« Reply #131 on: May 11, 2018, 01:03:22 PM »
I'm actually hoping for it to be a successful, interesting and world-expanding game. Something which would really helped improving the AoS.
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Re: Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay 4th Edition
« Reply #132 on: May 11, 2018, 01:07:54 PM »
I'm actually hoping for it to be a successful, interesting and world-expanding game. Something which would really helped improving the AoS.

sure I agree...I'm glad its a separate game and not a supplement thanks for that correction Oxy-dawg
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Re: Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay 4th Edition
« Reply #133 on: May 17, 2018, 10:35:11 AM »
Please AoS rpg will just be a Manual of Planes with Warhammer characters and silly  South coreans mmorg paladins.

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Re: Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay 4th Edition
« Reply #134 on: May 25, 2018, 12:53:42 PM »
I've pre-ordered the Rulebook + Starter set. Now Cubicle 7 has announced that the main game will be in July and the Starter will arrive in September... That really rustled my jimmies. :dry:
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Re: Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay 4th Edition
« Reply #135 on: August 03, 2018, 10:13:31 PM »
So, this game is delayed a bit.  Was due out in June, with physical copied in July.    in the end, a not quite complete preview pdf was released to pre-orders, about a week ago.

And, as a pre-order customer, I've got the preview copy.   

I think I mostly like this new edition.  Apart from delays, and so on, I can't think of anything so far that I would try and "fix" with houserules.  I'm looking forward to the completed edition, and to what they plan to add to the range down the line.

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Re: Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay 4th Edition
« Reply #136 on: August 09, 2018, 01:22:32 PM »
I've also recieved the preview.

The combat is strange now, as even if you lose, something can happen in your favor.

The elves are absurdly OP. The dwarves, who are best craftsmen lore-wise, are horrible at crafting.

The bestiary is very small. They will probably release a full bestiary later on.

I like the career progression rules. It's nice that you can stay indifinetly in the same career through the entire game.

I'm waiting for the final product, then I will review it.
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Re: Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay 4th Edition
« Reply #137 on: August 09, 2018, 03:06:39 PM »
I haven't tried playing it out yet, to see how well it works, but yeah, combat could see a winner from who failed the least worst.   I think i'll judge once we've played it properly.

Having begun converting characters from 2ndEd to 4thEd, yeah, Elves are very strong, but fortunately very rare, and will the lack of Fate and Resilience balance them out - again, will wait until we've tried it out.  I wouldn't say Dwarfs will be bad at crafting, average maybe, but perhaps a trade() skill or craftsmand () talent should have been available as a species skill or talent.  I'd have to re-read the section on Endeavours in the down-time bit to see how it works.

I find the attributes many careers get are a bit random, and sometimes obvious ones are not in that career.   And quite a few careers have been lost - Runesmiths in partcular.  I do wonder if we might get more career classes and careers in future supplements.  I do think it will be easier to make NPCs for townsfolk at varying ability with this system though

Agreed, judge the final version.

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Re: Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay 4th Edition
« Reply #138 on: August 14, 2018, 08:55:27 AM »
IMO dwarves should not be average at crafting. They are known as the greatest artisans of the world, except for the elves, but they do use a lot of magic in their endeavors, so...
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Re: Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay 4th Edition
« Reply #139 on: October 03, 2018, 11:17:19 PM »
So I'm snagging this thread a bit for my own uses, but I have a question and I'm hoping you veteran warhammer RPG'ers can help me out with.

I'm DM'ing a game that's a bit of a mix of various fantasy worlds. One of my players is a dwarven cleric of the Ancestor Gods, who are heavily based on the warhammer ones. I know the usual stuff from the army books, but do any of the various editions of Warhammer Fantasy RPG get into any real detail for the dwarf religions? Like holidays, method of worship, etc. I know rough stuff, but I'd love to be able to find some actual detailed write ups to give to my player.

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Re: Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay 4th Edition
« Reply #140 on: October 04, 2018, 10:00:23 AM »
That was would be covered by either Dwarfs: Stone and Steel, from 1st ed. WFRP, which is as rare as rocking horse $hit.   One of only about 3 or 4 WFRP books across all editions I've not been able to get.   It was a late book in 1st, so would have been from Hogshead, and would be after the Dwars 4th Ed WFB book, but I imagine a bit of the background has changed since then.

Tome of Salvation from 2nd edition which covers the Empire human religions in great detail only has about half a page on the Dwarf gods.   Basically each clan has an ancestor god, and then there are the Grungni the god of miners and artisans, also called The Maker in AoS.   Grimnir the warrior god, popular with slayers, and therefore thought of as the slayer god.   And Valaya the Protector, dwarven mother goddess

There may be something in the 3rd edition books, but I don't know the general contents of each of those like I do for 1st and 2nd.

And there isn't any mention other than names in the 4th ed core book

I guess that doesn't give you anything you don't know already.

Wait... reading a bit of holy days from Tome of Salvation

There is First Quaff (33rd Day of Pflugzeit)  When in the season the beer for that year is tasted for the first time, and the taste can foretell how good or bad the next year will be.

Saga (33rd Day of Vorgeheim).  A Sombre day of storytelling of ancestors slayers and ironbeards deeds.

Second Breech (33rd Day of Brauzeit)  When the second batch of beer is tested,

Keg End (33rd Day of Vorehexen)  When dwarfs must empty their kegs for the following year.  Even humans celebrate this.  It's basically drink until you run out of beer

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Re: Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay 4th Edition
« Reply #141 on: October 04, 2018, 10:25:04 AM »
Quote Oxy: which is as rare as rocking horse $hit

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Re: Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay 4th Edition
« Reply #142 on: October 04, 2018, 03:14:53 PM »
Thanks Oxy, I had a feeling that was the case. For the life of me I thought I had a PDF of Stone and Steel floating around but it appears I was wrong.

The celebrations are helpful though thanks! Gives me some detail to work with.

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« Reply #143 on: October 04, 2018, 03:30:10 PM »
I still do. PM sent.
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Re: Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay 4th Edition
« Reply #144 on: October 04, 2018, 10:33:12 PM »
Cubicle 7 released a load of the 2nd ed books on pdf as a humble bundle.  Then since have been periodically re-releasing 1st ed pdfs.   Hopefully Dwarfs Stone and Steel will come out at some point.   They've done Marienburg: Sold Down The River, which was another Hogshead book, so I think the precedent is set for re-releasing Hogshead books.


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Re: Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay 4th Edition
« Reply #145 on: October 17, 2018, 01:20:59 PM »
I'm writing an ad-hoc review of the 4th edition on my blog. It will probably be finished tommorow or on Friday. You can read it here. ;)

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« Reply #146 on: October 17, 2018, 02:03:38 PM »
Thank youi!
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Re: Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay 4th Edition
« Reply #147 on: October 17, 2018, 07:16:56 PM »
I'm writing an ad-hoc review of the 4th edition on my blog. It will probably be finished tommorow or on Friday. You can read it here. ;)

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Nice review, it seems we both like this new version.  I'm busy updating NPCs, characters, and my various spreadsheets and things I use for GM'ing 2nd ed so that they work for 4th ed.   i'm looking forward to the Enemy Within Directors Cut, I had been playing a 2nd ed campaign where we got to where that starts, and was going to run it when 4th went on pre-order.  We've been doing a side campaign still in 2nd until that new version of TEW comes along.   I might run a one-off to get used to playing in the new edition, but from my own dice-rolling, I think i'm going to much prefer 4th when we properly start using it.  We've already started stealing a few rules from 4th for our 2nd ed.

One thing I did spot in your review, When Channeling, it's an extended roll until you hit the CN number of success levels.  it's not then automatically cast, you still have to do a casting action, but the CN for that is 0, so you only need to be successful, and any extra SL can be used to boost range or damage etc.  I prefer this magic systen, and i like how you still have to learn spells as you did from 1st.  in 2nd you immediately knew all the petty spells, and then when you got an arcane lore, you automatically knew 10 of those.  And then the medium lesser spells had to be learnt one by one.  This new way isn't so much of a power jump all in one go.

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Re: Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay 4th Edition
« Reply #148 on: October 17, 2018, 08:18:32 PM »
Oh, ok. Must've understood that part in a wrong way. Thanks for the correction. :smile2:

I am collecting a lot of fan-made material for the 4th edition, for my WFRP mega collection. People are releasing tons of it and it's great. The 4th edition Facebook group, as well as the Rat Catcher's Guild Discord server are full of wonderful, creative folks. It's worth checking them out.
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Re: Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay 4th Edition
« Reply #149 on: October 18, 2018, 08:42:10 AM »
I think I've been on both since the early days of them.  I already used Discord for actually playing, since I use Roll20 for the Virtual Tabletop and character sheet, and Discord for voice chat to play.  In fact the character sheet, and being able to store a library of NPCs makes Roll20 useful enough I'd use it even playing with friends around a table.   

All I've collected from those so far is a load of careers that one guy had done.   i still may not even use them, as i expect future supplements from Cubicle 7 to cover new career anyway, but it's nice to have them.  I've also seen a few conversions of The Oldenhaller Contract, but not much else.  i haven't really been paying attention though.