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Offline GamesPoet

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Re: Lion Rampant Has and Is Expanding ...
« Reply #75 on: December 10, 2019, 12:58:51 AM »
Some folks, who follow what the Rampant/Lament/R&P writers are doing, base there 28mm armies for these rules systems all on round bases.  The system is called 3-2-1 and generally there are two 40mm bases with 3 figures on them, two 30mm bases with 2 figures on them, and 2 25mm bases with one figure on each.

A friend of mine is doing this with his Medieval and AWI armies.  Currently my Medieval armies are all individually based on 20mm squares because I am using some of my WFB figures for my German army and all my Perry WotRs figures are also on squares, although I am contemplating using the 3-2-1 system at some point.

I read somewhere that one guy is using his 4 ACW figures per square base x 3 for his R&P army.
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Re: Lion Rampant Has and Is Expanding ...
« Reply #76 on: December 10, 2019, 01:02:32 AM »
And by the way F&IW could make for a good thread. :icon_cool:

I have such figures in both 28mm and 40mm.  Although both in limited quantities, and not enough for armies in almost any rules set.  Perhaps I'll have the 28mm for R&P, but haven't decided.
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Re: Lion Rampant Has and Is Expanding ...
« Reply #77 on: December 10, 2019, 12:18:47 PM »
Also, if I recall correctly, there is another set of rules called The Men Who Would Be Kings which is also based off the Rampant rules chassis.  They were written for Colonial era games.
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Re: Lion Rampant Has and Is Expanding ...
« Reply #78 on: March 28, 2020, 06:16:35 PM »
I'm rethinking how to spend my slots when purchasing the new Byzantines from Fireforge's kickstarter via the 7 box pledge level.  I might only go for plastic.  I've never been thrilled with the whole Vikings in a guard unit, although I'm sure there are some mighty nice Vikings and Cataphrats made by other producers anyway, if I want them as part of my Byzantine army.

Lion Rampant's list for Byzantines is as follows ... 3 mounted serjeant units (6 figures each) x 4 points =12 points, 2 foot serjeant units (12 figures each) x 4 points = 8, and 2 Bidower units (6 figures each) x 2 points = 4.  Total points = 24.

1 box of the Koursores gives 2/3rds of the mounted serjeants. 1 box of the spearsmen gives both units of foot serjeants, and 1 box of Auxilairies gives all of the Bidowers, plus another 12 figures beyond that.

Two of the mounted serjeants could be turned into mounted archer units at plus 1 point per unit, but then I'd need to give up one of the Bidower units to keep the army at 24 points

Need to look up the Impetus and Day of Battle army lists for Byzantines before finalizing what boxes of figures ares chosen.
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Re: Lion Rampant Has and Is Expanding ...
« Reply #79 on: March 29, 2020, 08:04:22 PM »
This makes me think I can increase units by deceasing points. Like my 12 hand gunners can be 6 points instead of 12. Gives more ability to field more unit types
Mathi Alfblut Feb 4,2017
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Re: Lion Rampant Has and Is Expanding ...
« Reply #80 on: March 29, 2020, 10:23:09 PM »
All unit types in Lion Rampant have either 6 or 12 figures to start the game.

And there are 3 types of missile units ...

1.  Archers (and slingers) cost 4 points for 12 figures, and these can be upgraded at the cost of 2 points per unit to Experts.
2.  Crossbows cost 4 points and have 12 figures, and these can be upgraded at the cost of 2 points per unit to have Pavise.
3.  Bidowers cost 2 points for 6 figures, although they have no upgrades available.

Not sure about Dragon Rampant's availability of handguns, yet the chassis is the same as Lion Rampant as far as figures and points.

Being pike and shot rules, Pikeman's Lament has handgun units, although my understanding is that Pikeman's Lament does not fully equate to the Lion Rampant and Dragon Rampant rules.
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Re: Lion Rampant Has and Is Expanding ...
« Reply #81 on: March 29, 2020, 11:40:21 PM »
All unit types in Lion Rampant have either 6 or 12 figures to start the game.

And there are 3 types of missile units ...

1.  Archers (and slingers) cost 4 points for 12 figures, and these can be upgraded at the cost of 2 points per unit to Experts.
2.  Crossbows cost 4 points and have 12 figures, and these can be upgraded at the cost of 2 points per unit to have Pavise.
3.  Bidowers cost 2 points for 6 figures, although they have no upgrades available.

Not sure about Dragon Rampant's availability of handguns, yet the chassis is the same as Lion Rampant as far as figures and points.

Being pike and shot rules, Pikeman's Lament has handgun units, although my understanding is that Pikeman's Lament does not fully equate to the Lion Rampant and Dragon Rampant rules.

Great! That clarifies Units. That is the same as DR. I can definitely field a good size force
Mathi Alfblut Feb 4,2017
Simple, You gut the bastard with your sword, the viking way.
Questions?

Mathi Alfblut Dec 9,2017
Get a binge of Yule ale, roasted boar and some proper axes and we will ALL be happy again!

GP Aug 8, 2019
Can we just take a hammer to it, smash it into little bits.