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So I want to start a new Army
« on: September 09, 2018, 04:48:07 PM »
SO I want to start an Army of the Imperium. I love troops, uniforms, and artillery ( yeah I'm an empire player haha) what do you think for a guy like me ( I've never really played 40k) what I would need to do to start?

1- Tanks are ok
 
2- Squads rock

3- Smaller vehicles are cool
 
I want to do a version of the British Desert Rats WWII Africa Corps.
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Re: So I want to start a new Army
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2018, 05:50:59 PM »
Love the theme. I'd suggest starting with the Start Collecting box myself. You get a tank, a squad, a heavy weapon and a Commissar. At the very least it gives you a nice little force with a bit of most things. You can test out paint schemes, get use to it, whatever. The book is also probably pretty important.

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-CA/Start-Collecting-Astra-Militarum-2017

I'm not very competitive, so I tend to buy what I like the look of. I'm also more into my armies fluff, so I try to base my things on WWII Canadians. Similar organisation, etc. Combined with my disinterest in painting large models I primarily focus on squads, with support squads of heavy and special weapons. I seem to be pretty viable in games without a problem.

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Re: So I want to start a new Army
« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2018, 06:39:24 PM »
For a guard army the bottom line has got to be ‘how much do you want to spend?’ Cause you can have a fabulous army but it’ll cost. The best models come from mad robot or anvil. With you in US best off with mad robot. Gw vehicles are the way to go. You only want hellhounds and leman russ’ anyway. Sentinels are okay. Artillery tanks are okay.
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Re: So I want to start a new Army
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2018, 10:48:42 PM »
Wow thanks guys for the information.

Gankom I'm like you I have a theme and I could less how its preforms.


What if I go man heavy can I win a few games?  maybe a few smaller vehicles ( that four small tracked  vehicle is awesome) whatever its called? Im also thinking about using the Oarlocks from Necromunda as my troops just is desert uniforms? To me they have that sandy look lol .. googls, strips of cloth etc. Maybe a few head swaps. WOULD love to get my hands of the Arbian towel wrapped heads if they were in platic?

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Re: So I want to start a new Army
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2018, 10:49:50 PM »
WOW those starting off deals $$  for a basic kit not too bad!!  :::cheers:::
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« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2018, 11:55:25 PM »
I've picked up some Orlock guys as well to use as veterans for one of my platoons. (I have things semi organized so that fluff wise there's 5 squads of troops, 1 squad of veterans, and an HQ squad in a platoon.)

I haven't used the Taurox (I assume that's the tracked vehicle you mean) but I have used a couple of chimera's as light tanks in a wolf pack kinda tactic. A couple of light tanks working together to hunt stuff on one flank.

I'm primarily man heavy. I'd say mix in a few heavy weapon squads and anti armor weapons to keep yourself covered and you should be pretty good. That said, I do bring at least 1 Russ each game and it is almost always incredibly helpful. Even if it's not killing stuff fully, it's one of the main things stripping wounds off bigger stuff.

I'm interested to see what you other 40k players say. I know I really don't use as many vehicles as some of you, but I wouldn't be surprised if you guys have far better results then me.

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Re: So I want to start a new Army
« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2018, 12:45:58 AM »
Good to see your going for a Guard army, Zak. :::cheers:::

Gankom ... does your Leman Russ also draw fire away from the soldier heavy force?
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Re: So I want to start a new Army
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2018, 12:49:09 AM »
Good to see your going for a Guard army, Zak. :::cheers:::

Gankom ... does your Leman Russ also draw fire away from the soldier heavy force?


thanks man im looking forward to it ..sense that all that people are playing and I miss me nerds  :blush:
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Re: So I want to start a new Army
« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2018, 01:05:54 AM »
Good to see your going for a Guard army, Zak. :::cheers:::

Gankom ... does your Leman Russ also draw fire away from the soldier heavy force?

It absolutely does. In one of the early games (in 7th edition) it one shotted my buddies Land Raider turn one with a lucky shot. Since then he aims for it every game, even though it has done so very, very little in every other game.

I also like to hide behind it, like a true guardsman.

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« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2018, 11:59:24 AM »
is there anyone ( companies ) that can do a desert scarf head Wraps ? I want to switch the Cadians heads for more Laurence of Arabia type heads
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Re: So I want to start a new Army
« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2018, 08:20:35 PM »
I believe you are looking for Tallarn Desert Raiders.  Have to dig in the OOP boxes probably, but you can still find them.  Lots of old fluff about them too if that fits with the rest of your force.  I always felt Imperial Sentinel Walkers seemed to fit in with that army theme.

As usual, there's a small fanatical fan group out there with lots of conversions etc.
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Re: So I want to start a new Army
« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2018, 09:21:51 PM »
I believe you are looking for Tallarn Desert Raiders.  Have to dig in the OOP boxes probably, but you can still find them.  Lots of old fluff about them too if that fits with the rest of your force.  I always felt Imperial Sentinel Walkers seemed to fit in with that army theme.

As usual, there's a small fanatical fan group out there with lots of conversions etc.


Yeah I seen those guys and I'm not really wanting that look ..just the normal Imperial Guard body with a scarf wrapped head!! lol
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Re: So I want to start a new Army
« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2018, 11:31:34 PM »
SO my concept is based on the dessert planet like Tatooine.

This planet is not even registered by the imperium register of planets. However, 10 years ago an Imperial Cruiser went off course due to faulty navigational information and intense radioactivity crashed landed.  Killing 3rd of the men and 50% of the equipment damaged. Four of the 5 commissars and most leadership died as well, leaving Jr. Officers and Sergeants in charge. SO they started to set up a base of operations, motor pool, and fix what they could.

The interesting thing was they were shortly met by a scouting group of imperial rogue traders and other scallywags, black marketers, and bandits. This uncharted planet was secretly given to these folks (over a millennia ago) as a base of refuge, refueling, and exploration trading post.  I think this information got lost??? The Main city is very exotic tech/ steam punk / wild west?? Lol
 
Sand storms can last for months at a time, solar radiation swarm all around the planet causing a disruption in all psychic navigational signals.
The ship is shot and no way will the Traders allow them to signal where they are for the fear of imperial meddling.

SO for some exotic goods, food, and fun the guardsman have been placed in charge of City and its surrounding security.


SO I want odd things as part of this guard army-
a-   Squats ( I’ve seen them)
b-   Beastmen unit
c-   Hobbled together imperial vehicles
d-   Fare out steam punk ish stuff.
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Re: So I want to start a new Army
« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2018, 01:21:46 AM »
I'm sold. I look forward to seeing what crazy contraption you can come up with.

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Re: So I want to start a new Army
« Reply #14 on: September 11, 2018, 01:53:07 AM »
"Don't ask if your dreams are crazy, ask if they are crazy enough."

Just do it.

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Re: So I want to start a new Army
« Reply #15 on: September 11, 2018, 03:17:37 AM »
I would try Victoria Miniatures.
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There are 40 different shades of black, so many fortresses and ways to attack.

So why you complaining!

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There are 40 different shades of black, so many fortresses and ways to attack.

So why you complaining!

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Re: So I want to start a new Army
« Reply #18 on: September 11, 2018, 02:11:57 PM »
HAHA!!! YES Thanks so much !!!  :::cheers::: :::cheers::: :::cheers:::


Next question how do I change the tracks to wheels on those Taurox?
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There are 40 different shades of black, so many fortresses and ways to attack.

So why you complaining!

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Re: So I want to start a new Army
« Reply #20 on: September 11, 2018, 02:18:24 PM »
I didn't get the kit, just the wheels and tracks separately. I didn't want all the other bits. They also do a four wheel kit
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« Reply #21 on: September 11, 2018, 02:28:04 PM »
BRO you are so sexy to me right now!!! lol  :::cheers:::
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Re: So I want to start a new Army
« Reply #22 on: September 11, 2018, 03:10:33 PM »
TMI.

And I don't mean the head and vehicle information.
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Re: So I want to start a new Army
« Reply #23 on: September 11, 2018, 03:11:24 PM »
The wheels do look so much better.

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Re: So I want to start a new Army
« Reply #24 on: September 11, 2018, 03:18:22 PM »
like i said, it's how much you're willing or prepared to spend on it.
There are 40 different shades of black, so many fortresses and ways to attack.

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