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Flaggelants
« on: February 22, 2021, 02:52:49 PM »
It seems that they are mostly Sigmarites, but that other religions could be in there too.
But what colours, I was thinking initially my unit of Flagellants would be Morr followers and thus black robed, but now I am not sure.

Is there any official guidance and what they would be wearing colour-wise?


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Re: Flaggelants
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2021, 02:55:03 PM »
My sense is a person can frame their unit's fluff as desired, and pick whatever colors you'd enjoy.
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Re: Flaggelants
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2021, 03:07:47 PM »
Nothing official as far as I know, but I have limited knowledge of official. I had an entire ermy of Morrite Flagallents in my Tilean campaign, the Disciplinati di Morr. I called the individual members 'dedicants' and robed them all in maroon, red and grey, symbolic of the colours of twilight (the dying of the light). I used the raven and hourglass symbols on their banners etc. See http://warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=46787.msg1033286#msg1033286
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Re: Flaggelants
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2021, 03:38:00 PM »
By the way, never had a unit of these.  Considering adding one at some point.

My primary Imperial army is from Averland, and perhaps I would paint them in brown and yellow or maybe even black and yellow, to give them an Averland flavor.  If the idea of brown with yellow details is used, then I might get away with using them in other fluff situations as well.
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Re: Flaggelants
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2021, 03:40:11 PM »
Think I will go black, they can be from the temple of Morr that is situated near my campaign grounds and it will go well against the red and white which makes up the bulk of my army.

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Re: Flaggelants
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2021, 03:41:02 PM »
By the way, never had a unit of these. 

Nor me when I played back in the day, and now I am doing 10/12mm they are not readily available so have had to have a sculptor make me some.

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Re: Flaggelants
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2021, 08:08:56 PM »
In the 6th ed Flagellants were ex soldiers driven mad by their experiences. They were believers in the end times - and were right, in a sense! 6th ed Flagellant sculpts have pieces of armour to show this.

3rd to 5th ed Flagellants had more of a Sigmarite undertone, and self flagellation was a big theme. The Marauder Flagellant sculpts were basically mad warrior monks, with books and blunt weapons. Close to the classic Blanche illustrations. The new plastic ones of the 7th and 8th editions seem to largely follow this idea. They focus on the madness, and this aspect was also emphasized in the later writing and rules.
http://www.solegends.com/marauder/mm65flagellants.htm

Earlier still there were the Disciples of the Red Redemption, who were the initial idea that led to the later flagellants:
http://www.solegends.com/citrr/1rr16redemption/index.htm

If you want to emphasize the monk aspect, you can paint the robes with a single colour scheme. Black, grey, white, red, whatever. Maybe a nice contrasting colour, like some medieval monastic orders did.

Madmen can wear anything, simple or extravagant. Total freedom.

If you want to emphasize the ex soldier aspect, you can paint the robes or parts of the robes to echo various provincial uniforms.

Very free, but also a great opportunity for storytelling in figure painting.

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Re: Flaggelants
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2021, 10:35:22 PM »
Flagellants are by and large a purely Sigmarite convention. All the major gods have fanatical sects but the style of self scourging- throw themselves on the blades of their enemies types are all pretty much just Sigmar. Padre's Disciplinati di Morr, while not official, are more in keeping with the sorts of fanatics the other cults might get, no mass abandonment of normal weapons of war and the like with a touch more organization.

This is not to say that you can't have Morr Flagellants it is just that you are free to come up with whatever you like really.
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Re: Flaggelants
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2021, 11:33:50 PM »
Hmmm maybe not Morr.
Just finished one in a black robe, will have a look in the cold light of day and see what I think.

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Re: Flaggelants
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2021, 03:01:55 AM »
I mean it isn't all that bad really, Morr Flagellants are the most likely other than Sigmar. Morr is a classical god, thus the Cult structure and hierarchy are out of the southern old world but he has been part of the Imperial pantheon since the beginning. It is easy for the more cultural norm of Sigmarite Flagellant form to take over a group of despondent types after say fighting with undead and set Morr as the god they look to not knowing really all that much about the Cult. Imperials are always looked on as far more bellicose in their interpretations of the Gods anyway. The other native fanatical types, Ulrican Wolfkin, are more along the lines Charles Bronson in Death Wish response to personal tragedy than method of Sigmarite Flagellants.

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Re: Flaggelants
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2021, 09:08:18 AM »
I want to do black as that will look best I feel, in terms of contrast with my army.

Lore wise, I figured Morr as those priests are close to death and see the frailty and indeed the pointlessness of life daily.
They can see that material wealth and riches and vice give you no advantage over the paupers, they all rot in the ground.
They all wear the same black rose.
No matter what you have or did you lose it all, so why bother living a good life, in fact, maybe living a good life is worse.
You have less to lose when poor and wretched, so maybe that is the way, if you have it all then death is cruel and it takes it away from you.
Why would that be a good thing, why work so hard to be cheated and be worse off, worse off for all eternity.
Maybe, yes, thinking about it, maybe have a poor pious life, have no money, no property, be hungry and wretched, then when death comes it is not to be feared, but to be welcomed, a release from the life of suffering.
Infact, thinking about it, the greater the suffering the sweeter the release of death.
Pain and madness shall be our daily bread, torment and anguish, and then when blessed Morr comes, he shall taken us away to a life of eternal bliss.
But yes, to appreciate this afterlife, for it to have any meaning the life must be wretched and terrible.
Whips and chains to weigh the body, pages of sacred verse nailed into the very flesh, bleeding feet and unkempt hair, manacles and maces.
These shall be our holy sacraments.
These shall lead us to true salvation!!

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Re: Flaggelants
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2021, 10:19:53 AM »
There ya go.
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