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« on: August 04, 2005, 10:25:54 AM »
Updated : Aug 20 19:48 GMT

Will be capturing results much slower to avoid mistakes.

Recomended targets. (See tactics thread for Round 4 for breaking news)

This round ends Saturday 20th August - Canadian Time

1). The Uneasy Watchman - BUT read the Round 4 thread.

at 19:48 GMT Kaltenbach looks secure with a lead of 8350

2). Bechafen. (For all your skirmish games)

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                  Middenland Tabelcland   Stirland      Riots            
Kaltenbach             21000      12650          0          0            
FortGrigory               80          0       3900          0            
Rakhov                  5000          0          0          0            
TheUneasyWatchman      43450          0      54500          0            
Udo'sFall                  0      30400      28500          0            
Kohleburg                  0          0      19000          0            
Rhya'sSisters              0      27750      24900          0            
BustenBruck                0       9450          0          0            
Waldschmid                 0       5000          0          0            
Bechafen                6850       7300      11000      10950            
                                                                 
 
Middenland
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Brunger             (Kalt:1200) (Kalt:1200) (Kalt:1000) (Kalt:1600) (TUW :1000)
Elieress            (TUW :1400) (TUW :0750)
Erkin               (TUW :0900)
Lizard King         (TUW :1200) (TUW :0900) (TUW :0300)
Nightshadow         (Kalt:1000)
RGB                 (Kalt:0700)
rha celt            (TUW :0250) (TUW :0750) (TUW :1050)
Rorrak              (Kalt:0900) (TUW :1400) (Kalt:1200)
spite               (TUW :1200) (Kalt:1400) (Kalt:1400) (Kalt:1400)
Vann Harl           (Kalt:1000)
von_barlg           (Bech:0900) (Bech:0300)
 
T-Land
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cisse               (UDOs:0900) (Kalt:1350) (Kalt:1800) (UDOs:1600)
episteme            (Kalt:0900) (Kalt:0250) (UDOs:0800)
Fr1day              (Rhya:0600)
Helblaster of Sigmar(Kalt:1800) (Kalt:1350) (Kalt:1800) (Kalt:1800)
Justin Hunter       (Kalt:1600)
 
Stirland
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DanielHellion       (TUW :1800) (TUW :1200) (TUW :1800) (TUW :1800)
Demonslayer         (TUW :1800) (TUW :1800)
Dihenydd            (UDOs:0900)
Fred                (TUW :0600) (TUW :1200)
Nulnsmarshal von    (UDOs:0800)
Thantos             (UDOs:0600) (UDOs:0900) (UDOs:1200) (UDOs:1600)
The Village Idiot   (TUW :1200) (TUW :1400) (TUW :1800) (TUW :1200)
wojammer            (TUW :1800) (TUW :1350) (TUW :1050) (TUW :1800)
xnet445             (UDOs:0300)

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« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2005, 11:21:51 AM »
I think you've mixed up the opposing factions.
Uneasy Watchman, Udo's and Hohleburg are the Stirland locations - the green and yellow.

The format looks great though, and easy to see the effect - well done sir. :clap:
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« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2005, 12:41:57 PM »
Ok so in the case of "The uneasy watchmen" when will we have conquered it?
I mean to say will it become our "conquered territory"? from which we can launch new attacks?
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« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2005, 02:26:10 PM »
The input file for my program. The initial capture was a pain and there may be some mistakes. Feel free to check. Thats why I posted.
However I'm fairly certain its correct.

#1=Middenland
#2=Tabelcland
#3=Stirland
#4=Riots
#
#1=Kaltenbach
#2=FortGrigory
#3=Rakhov
#4=TheUneasyWatchman
#5=Udo's Fall
#6=Kohleburg
#7=Rhya's Sisters
#8=BustenBruck
#9=Waldschmid
#10=Bechafen
#
# First Character determines data type.
# P = Points Modification - P,Faction,Location,Value
# R = Battle Result - R,Faction,Location,Value,Personal-M,Participant-M,Scenario-M,List-M,Battle-M,Name
#  where xxxx-M are the multipliers.


P,1,1,5000
P,1,2,5000
P,1,3,5000
P,2,7,5000
P,2,8,5000
P,2,9,5000
P,3,4,5000
P,3,5,5000
P,3,6,5000
P,4,10,5000
R,3,2,600,1.0,0.5,0.0,0.0,Cripple
R,3,2,400,1.0,0.0,0.0,0.25,NorthCackalackeyCowboy
R,3,7,600,1.0,0.0,0.0,0.25,TheBuilder
R,2,7,800,1.0,0.5,0.0,0.0,episteme
R,1,4,800,1.0,0.5,0.25,0.25,sid_vicous
R,2,5,800,1.0,0.0,0.0,0.25,Joey
R,1,2,800,1.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,Diakon
R,1,4,800,1.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,Nightshadow
R,2,5,800,1.0,0.5,0.0,0.25,Fr1day
R,3,7,400,1.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,xnet455
R,3,7,800,1.0,0.5,0.0,0.25,Demonslayer
R,3,7,800,1.0,0.5,0.0,0.25,Demonslayer - Duplicate ?
R,3,7,800,1.0,0.0,0.0,0.25,Demonslayer
R,1,4,800,1.0,0.0,0.0,0.25,LizardKing
R,2,7,800,1.0,0.5,0.0,0.25,Helblaster
R,2,7,600,1.0,0.5,0.0,0.25,Helblaster
R,2,7,600,1.0,0.5,0.0,0.25,Helblaster
R,3,7,800,1.0,0.5,0.25,0.25,Demonslayer
R,2,7,800,1.0,0.5,0.25,0.25,Demonslayer
R,3,7,800,1.0,0.5,0.25,0.25,Demonslayer
R,3,7,800,1.0,0.5,0.25,0.25,Demonslayer
R,2,5,200,1.0,0.0,0.0,0.25,Joey
R,3,10,600,1.0,0.5,0.0,0.0,Konrad von Richtmark
R,3,10,800,1.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,Konrad von Richtmark
R,3,10,800,1.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,Konrad von Richtmark
R,2,5,600,1.0,0.0,0.25,0.25,episteme
R,2,7,400,1.0,0.5,0.25,0.25,episteme
R,2,5,400,1.0,0.0,0.0,0.25,episteme
R,3,2,800,1.0,0.5,0.0,0.25,Fred
R,3,2,200,1.0,0.5,0.0,0.0,cripple
R,1,10,200,1.0,0.5,0.25,0.0,Dragonis999
R,1,10,200,1.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,Diakon
R,1,4,800,1.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,Nightshadow
R,1,4,800,1.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,Nightshadow
R,3,4,400,1.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,xnet445
R,2,10,600,1.0,0.5,0.25,0.25,episteme
R,2,10,800,1.0,0.5,0.25,0.25,Helblaster
R,2,10,600,1.0,0.5,0.25,0.25,Helblaster
R,2,10,800,1.0,0.5,0.25,0.25,Helblaster
R,2,10,400,1.0,0.5,0.25,0.25,Helblaster
R,2,7,800,1.0,0.5,0.25,0.25,Helblaster
R,2,7,800,1.0,0.5,0.25,0.25,Helblaster
R,2,7,600,1.0,0.5,0.25,0.25,Helblaster
R,2,7,400,1.0,0.5,0.25,0.25,Helblaster
R,3,7,800,1.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,DanielHellion
R,1,4,200,1.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,Fredrick Ironstrom
R,3,5,600,1.0,0.5,0.0,0.0,Dihenydd
R,3,5,800,1.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,Dihenydd
R,3,5,400,1.0,0.5,0.0,0.25,Waldek-Mat
R,3,5,800,1.0,0.0,0.25,0.0,wissenlander
R,3,5,600,1.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,wissenlander
R,3,5,600,1.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,wissenlander
R,1,2,200,1.0,0.5,0.0,0.25,Midaski
R,3,7,800,1.0,0.5,0.25,0.25,Demonslayer
R,3,7,800,1.0,0.5,0.25,0.25,Demonslayer
R,2,5,800,1.0,0.5,0.25,0.25,Joey
R,2,7,800,1.0,0.5,0.25,0.25,Helblaster
R,2,7,600,1.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,Carlo Chaimo
R,2,7,200,1.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,Carlo Chaimo
R,2,7,200,1.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,Carlo Chaimo
R,1,4,600,1.0,0.0,0.0,0.25,sid_vicous
R,3,2,200,1.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,cripple
R,3,2,400,1.0,0.5,0.0,0.0,DanielHellion
R,1,2,200,1.0,0.0,0.0,0.25,Vann Harl
R,3,7,200,1.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,xnet445
R,1,2,200,1.0,0.5,0.0,0.0,Rorrak
R,2,5,800,1.0,0.5,0.25,0.25,Helblaster
R,2,5,200,1.0,0.5,0.25,0.25,Helblaster
R,3,5,200,1.0,0.5,0.25,0.25,DanielHellion
R,1,4,200,1.0,0.0,0.25,0.0,rha celt
R,1,4,400,1.0,0.0,0.25,0.0,rha celt
R,1,4,400,1.0,0.0,0.25,0.0,rha celt
R,2,5,600,1.0,0.0,0.25,0.25,Joey
R,2,5,600,1.0,0.5,0.25,0.25,Helblaster
R,2,5,400,1.0,0.5,0.25,0.25,Helblaster
R,3,5,600,1.0,0.0,0.0,0.25,TheBuilder
R,3,7,600,1.0,0.0,0.0,0.25,towishimp

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« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2005, 04:30:15 PM »
Brilliant Rorrak - I think I understand it :wink:

It just shows what's happening really well.

We seem to be under some threat at Fort Grigory, and need a bit more at the Uneasy Watchman.

What I do not know is at what point the location becomes 'contested'.
If it is when the attacking elements overtake the defender's score, or some other situation.
I had assumed the former, but we will have to see.

Finally Rorrak how easy is it for you to update this?

and I see Van Harl has joined us, and says same opponents as you?
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« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2005, 06:27:03 PM »
Quote from: Midaski
Brilliant Rorrak - I think I understand it :wink:  
 
It just shows what's happening really well.
 
Finally Rorrak how easy is it for you to update this?

 
Very simple actually. I bit the bullet and wrote a small application. A simple matter of reading the reports and clicking a few check boxes / drop downs for each report. Then hit Export to produce the above chart.
 
I figured since we don't understand all of the rules totally yet I would save the entry data so I can just parse the whole lot each time. Time will tell if we overran one site already.
 
 
Quote from: Midaski

and I see Van Harl has joined us, and says same opponents as you?

 
He is the same club as me so yea, pretty much the same opponent list :)

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« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2005, 09:45:06 AM »
Rorrak we will have to play more games against Andrews "gun line", but i dont think he will be too happy when he sees the army list for Stirland/Talabecland - no Stank / L4 wizards :)
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« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2005, 01:00:13 PM »
Nice work Rorrak! I'm using paper and a pencil at the moment :oops:

If you could make that application available to the campaign team, we'd be most grateful! If you want to, drop me an email:

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« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2005, 01:52:43 PM »
I can do.  
 
You will need to check to see for a few if my scoring is accurate and to the rules.  
 
I know I'm not attributing the skirmish games at Bechafen correctly, I will fix that and post it off to you. I understand the rules now.
 
Some Caveats.
 
It resets the entry screen between reports to force you to enter all fields.  
This was to force me to focus on each entry. :oops:  
Its 300kb, I'm too lazy to trim its size down.  
Its got a bug that causes a failed entry sometimes. Don't worry its blatantly obvious when it happens.
Its got no user manual. Should be pretty obvious to use though.

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« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2005, 02:00:32 PM »
Does it work once per report or could it be made so that I can input a whole string of reports and get a "summarized" export? I'm not going to push for anything, I'm glad enough to get *some* automatization in this fiendish process :-D

Don't let the current report processing fool you; I'm implementing a 100% bonus modifier for Middenland/Kislev because you lot only reported half as many battles as the other factions. This is a temporary measure and something else will be in place next round.
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« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2005, 02:33:56 PM »
You are gonna like it :)

Load it up, It loads the current status from its input file. Camp.Txt

Then add as many battle results as you like and it keeps a running total.

Then you can save. This will update its input file with all your entries.

Then you can export to produce that snippet at the top of this post. Results.txt

Mmmmm. Let me add that multiplier entry for you :)
Bechafen faction correct now.

You can do points injections by manually editing the camp.txt I'll add a screen if you really need it

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« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2005, 02:42:55 PM »
Modified and sent.

I added a multiplier that defaults to 1.0

Hope it helps.

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« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2005, 04:16:14 PM »
@helstrum: Are the Stirs gonna get any bonuses? 'Cause they are close to geting their first shield taken away. What about T-Land? Do they have any modifiers coming their way? Good, bad, nothing? Thanks,

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« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2005, 09:40:11 PM »
Thanks Rorrak! I'll give that thing a try tomorrow.

MiO: No modifiers in round 2, we want to see what the campaign does on "vanilla" setting :)
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« Reply #14 on: August 06, 2005, 06:45:22 AM »
Rorrak, I checked my email but didn't find your app there. Could you re-send it for me?
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« Reply #15 on: August 08, 2005, 06:15:53 AM »
Yea will do.

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« Reply #16 on: August 08, 2005, 10:34:04 AM »
I reset my scores to start at the values as at the end of round 2.

Since there are going to be no modifiers this time around my chart should fairly closely represent the state.

Another spate of massacres with full multipliers has seen a stalwart comeback by stirland at The Uneasy Watchman.

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« Reply #17 on: August 08, 2005, 11:41:49 AM »
Good job Rorrak - very helpful.

I've got a protest going about Brustenbruck, as I feel that there is something smelly going on, so let's not aggravate the Talabecland lot at the moment by posting any battles to there for the time being.

Let's keep concentrating on the Uneasy Watchman.
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« Reply #18 on: August 10, 2005, 07:46:34 AM »
Standings updated as of 10 Aug, 7:46 gmt.

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« Reply #19 on: August 10, 2005, 09:55:18 PM »
Rorrak - 2 Q's

1. Clicking in via the map we have 4750 pts in Bechafen, and according to Calvin's summary??

2. Your battle report at Bechafen? There doesn't seem to be a 'result' in that 'form' from the thread.........I don't understand it and have queried it.

I think we need to be clear that there are TWO different options at Bechafen........

Either a skirmish style game and using the special Bechafen report - which may need to be explained??

OR,
A normal Battle - which should be reported with the Normal Battle report - that's what Brunger did and whacked us up some 3800pts with 5 reports.

 :)
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« Reply #20 on: August 11, 2005, 06:28:53 AM »
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Rorrak - 2 Q's  
 
1. Clicking in via the map we have 4750 pts in Bechafen, and according to Calvin's summary??

Sorry, for some reason I have to press F5 to refresh those result pages. I must have forgotten for Bechafen. Its been corrected.
 
Quote from: Midaski

2. Your battle report at Bechafen? There doesn't seem to be a 'result' in that 'form' from the thread.........I don't understand it and have queried it.

 
I followed the reporting procedure for a skirmish game found at  
 
http://www.warhammer-empire.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8529
 
I didn't have a full battle, but rather a game of Mordheim with my wife.
 
Skirmish games always count for 200 pts only so no result is entered.

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« Reply #21 on: August 11, 2005, 07:28:09 AM »
@General Helstrom

Did you get the program I sent you ?

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« Reply #22 on: August 11, 2005, 07:52:46 AM »
Rorrak: Sorry, yes I got the program and I've fiddled around with it but I can't seem to make it work!

I enter some battle results, then I "save" and "export" but the exported file remains empty? I must be doing something wrong. I've got Calvin fiddling with it also but if you could post me a wee bit of a manual it might save me from making any stupid mistakes :)
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« Reply #23 on: August 11, 2005, 11:21:23 AM »
Quote from: Rorrak

Skirmish games always count for 200 pts only so no result is entered.


Did you see the new addition to the FAQs??
I got the General to clarify things a bit. :!:

You start with 200, but can add bonuses for opponents being Empire, and using scenarios. :idea:
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Metal to Finecast - It is mostly a swap of medium. 

You mean they will be using Ouija boards instead of Tarot cards for their business plans from now on?

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« Reply #24 on: August 11, 2005, 11:30:58 AM »
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You start with 200, but can add bonuses for opponents being Empire, and using scenarios. Idea


Ahh nice.

No adjustment is needed for my program, it allows the modifiers to be applied. Unfortunately somethings causing it to not work for the General :(