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Warlord:
SBO have issued an update to legacy army lists.

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Thoughts?

Footpatrol2:
I like it. It's conservative changes which I like.

 I play ogres as well. It's nice leadbelchers are not horrible now and a tough choice. Good shooting unit in a Close combat army.

Warlord:
I only really play 2 of these armies...

I am a fan of the change to the Chaos Dwarf balance changes.
Requiring the Bull Centaur hero to take Bull Centaurs was a horrible proposition, and this fixes it.

I also like the changes to Vampire Counts - all common sense updates.

That said, not a fan of the Ward Save change to Demons.
Its not as though I play with or against Demons, however I have always been of the belief that all ward saves should be contingent on non-magic attacks, and if you have magical attacks, you no longer have a ward save. That is just a design / aesthetic philosophy I feel makes sense to me.

commandant:
The demon change alters completely what demons are. Maybe from a balance point of view something was needed but from a gameplay POV this is bad.

Footpatrol2:
I played demons in 8th. The always 5+ ward save is annoying but not unbeatable. Previously demons were just hard countered via armies that could bring mass magical attacks. Which is a little unfair. In addition falcon horn really destroys certain demon lists. They are in a tough spot.

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