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Title: Week 4 offensive plans
Post by: wissenlander on July 12, 2007, 01:00:40 PM
Ok, talking to a couple of members here I've realized (as have they) that we need to go on an offensive soon.

This week will be finishing off the touches of securing the roads and more agressive patrols and fortifying activities.  Next week it would be awesome to get all regions together on a massive offensive to purge the forests!

We need wins this week though!  To have our plan work out the way it should, we need to still be in the top 5 ranking so we can have a good foothold to push off of.  If we drop we'll have to strike out in desperation instead of a position of power.  Wins are vital this week!

We need to get moving on this now because it's difficult to swing people into action in a two day period of time.

Strategize here for this offensive and have your voice be heard!
Title: Re: Week 4 offensive plans
Post by: Dendo Star on July 12, 2007, 01:12:53 PM
We could push against the Skaven, seeing as how they keep getting close to us.  I know they are "aiding" us, but c'mon, we're being their puppets. 

A big "sweep the forest clean o' rats" could be just what the doctor ordered.  Make us puppets will they?  We'll give a taste a' the ole' Imperial steel for their trouble!
Title: Re: Week 4 offensive plans
Post by: Veldemere on July 12, 2007, 03:03:06 PM
I think the problem with stating that we are following any particular race is that not everyone fights against that race. We should try to keep the plan specific but open to any opponent / battle (if that makes any sense)
Title: Re: Week 4 offensive plans
Post by: Dendo Star on July 12, 2007, 03:15:01 PM
Good point.
Title: Re: Week 4 offensive plans
Post by: Rocky on July 12, 2007, 07:16:47 PM
I'm for the purging of the forest plan we just need to get the word out to all the Empire players we can.

I we report lots of battles for week four imagine the affect that we can have.
Title: Re: Week 4 offensive plans
Post by: Dendo Star on July 12, 2007, 07:23:22 PM
Would it be time to reattempt relations with the Wood Elves?
Title: Re: Week 4 offensive plans
Post by: Michael W on July 12, 2007, 08:13:23 PM
Absolutely.  Apparently we're already working together (who knew!?!), so let's make it official.
Title: Re: Week 4 offensive plans
Post by: MrAnderssen on July 13, 2007, 12:38:24 AM
I would like to add. Despite what some people think. Reporting as many battles as possible is not what gets you a high rank. It is getting a consistant amount of wins. At the moment of writing this the war room shows that orcs have played the most battles today, 180 and they are coming last. wood elves have only played 86 battles but are coming first. It's about quality NOT quantity.

So if you need help winning battles just ask in one of the other forums for help.

Mr.Anderssen
Title: Re: Week 4 offensive plans
Post by: wissenlander on July 13, 2007, 12:55:06 PM
Good point Mr. Anderssen.

Does anyone have any specific regional objectives that they'd like to accomplish with an offensive?
Title: Re: Week 4 offensive plans
Post by: Michael W on July 14, 2007, 06:45:22 AM
I'd propose not for this week, but next (as this week we're establishing our communication lines) that we begin a naval campaign.  Many of our forces, bolstered by the arrival of elements of the Imperial Fleet, begin using the Rivers Talabec and Delb to move and attack enemies with unprecedented swiftness and un-Imperial aggressiveness.  Combined with attacks from our roads and outposts, we form a "Hammer-and-Anvil" style offensive to clear the forests and locate that accursed Crown.

Wiss, perhaps that could be the "striking and noticeable" style that earns us recognition and some "Hey, remember what the Empire did?" comments...

Just a suggestion.  It's, of course, up for debate.  My force is volunteered in advance for nautical duty, however, should the opportunity arise.
Title: Re: Week 4 offensive plans
Post by: Lord Alexander on July 14, 2007, 11:12:26 AM
Good Idea but I suggest we attack Orc/Goblin encampments first as they just got a lot of reinforcements from the east and if they join they will become an unstopable mass!!!

The idea with river control is good but we would have to delay the purge the forest thing for another week :/ but I like it though. Maybe we could bring the Stir River Patrol (Elite river fighters) and ships of Engineer Gunboats patroling the rivers??? That would give us an advantage. What do ya think???
Title: Re: Week 4 offensive plans
Post by: MrAnderssen on July 14, 2007, 11:53:38 AM
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The idea with river control is good but we would have to delay the purge the forest thing for another week :/ but I like it though. Maybe we could bring the Stir River Patrol (Elite river fighters) and ships of Engineer Gunboats patroling the rivers??? That would give us an advantage. What do ya think???

Hearshal Von Jeager at you're service.

Mr.Anderssen
Title: Re: Week 4 offensive plans
Post by: Tostig on July 16, 2007, 09:43:46 AM
Personally I feel that the High Elf's devious backstabbing couldn't have come at a better time. We were looking for an opponent for next week's big push, one who wasn't already at the bottom of the leader board - and oh looksie, we have one.
Title: Re: Week 4 offensive plans
Post by: wissenlander on July 16, 2007, 12:26:42 PM
Well, many ideas here.

Race specific attacks are always a bit troublesome because not everyone has that opponent.  We could write it in the fluff, but I'm not sure how many people really do want an open fight with the Asur.

I like that idea Michael W.  Would that be a good idea for the following week then or should we have an offensive hit at the exact same time as we have riverboats coming upstream?  That is definitely different and I really do think we should use it, but the only question in my mind is when?
Title: Re: Week 4 offensive plans
Post by: Dendo Star on July 16, 2007, 01:14:05 PM
I'd propose not for this week, but next (as this week we're establishing our communication lines) that we begin a naval campaign.  Many of our forces, bolstered by the arrival of elements of the Imperial Fleet, begin using the Rivers Talabec and Delb to move and attack enemies with unprecedented swiftness and un-Imperial aggressiveness.  Combined with attacks from our roads and outposts, we form a "Hammer-and-Anvil" style offensive to clear the forests and locate that accursed Crown.

Wiss, perhaps that could be the "striking and noticeable" style that earns us recognition and some "Hey, remember what the Empire did?" comments...

Just a suggestion.  It's, of course, up for debate.  My force is volunteered in advance for nautical duty, however, should the opportunity arise.

I like this idea for the future as well. 
Title: Re: Week 4 offensive plans
Post by: Veldemere on July 16, 2007, 01:32:23 PM
I too am liking the idea of taking the waters back, in reality I feel they should have been the first thing the other armies would have fought for to ensure supply lines but they were all concerned with land grabs.

Stirland armies would seem naturaly adept at this but I think fluff wise theyr fleet would be not much more than rowing boats as the province is so poor, maybe there should be a few regiments from Nuln setting up gun emplacements for the Stirlanders to bring the enemies to.

Title: Re: Week 4 offensive plans
Post by: Dendo Star on July 16, 2007, 01:46:27 PM
I too am liking the idea of taking the waters back, in reality I feel they should have been the first thing the other armies would have fought for to ensure supply lines but they were all concerned with land grabs.

Stirland armies would seem naturaly adept at this but I think fluff wise theyr fleet would be not much more than rowing boats as the province is so poor, maybe there should be a few regiments from Nuln setting up gun emplacements for the Stirlanders to bring the enemies to.



That sounds like a rather perfect idea!
Title: Re: Week 4 offensive plans
Post by: wissenlander on July 16, 2007, 01:49:18 PM
Nordlanders would be good at this as well. 

Sounds like a good plan that we can agree upon.  Branching out into the woods after securing the roads (which is being solidified this week) with support from the rivers.
Title: Re: Week 4 offensive plans
Post by: Veldemere on July 16, 2007, 02:00:30 PM
We could even include that the materials and labour for our new roads are coming to us by river (similar to the gold rush of '49) where they hear there is paid work from the Emperor. We should not forget that whilst we are all here there is still a whole Empire of people surrounding us.
Title: Re: Week 4 offensive plans
Post by: Michael W on July 16, 2007, 02:30:17 PM
I like it.  :)  And regarding the "when," let's put this in for this coming week - in conjunction with our "through-the-forests" offensive.  A hammer-and-anvil blow.
Title: Re: Week 4 offensive plans
Post by: Patch on July 16, 2007, 03:20:20 PM
We could include reports of the Imperial Ironclad paddlesteamer that was used during the Storm of Chaos. One of the best bits in the campaign - reading about it unloading knights and steam tanks directly into the chaos lines...
Title: Re: Week 4 offensive plans
Post by: Dendo Star on July 16, 2007, 03:40:06 PM
We could include reports of the Imperial Ironclad paddlesteamer that was used during the Storm of Chaos. One of the best bits in the campaign - reading about it unloading knights and steam tanks directly into the chaos lines...

Sensational!  I like that one.  I am afraid this is the first I've heard of it, though!

Patch, would you and those familiar with this awesome Ironclad please write up some fluff and/or mention it in your reports?
Title: Re: Week 4 offensive plans
Post by: BigDAWGSnaga on July 17, 2007, 02:43:17 AM
I too am liking the idea of taking the waters back, in reality I feel they should have been the first thing the other armies would have fought for to ensure supply lines but they were all concerned with land grabs.

Stirland armies would seem naturaly adept at this but I think fluff wise theyr fleet would be not much more than rowing boats as the province is so poor, maybe there should be a few regiments from Nuln setting up gun emplacements for the Stirlanders to bring the enemies to.



Zoggin gitz! Weze Orc Pirates were da furst onez to claim da rivers! And yose umie gitz are supposed to be da smart onez? And when weze gitz Port Maw woikin, den its noffin but troubles fer yose skumgrodz! Kaptain Blacksquig will meetz yose gitz steel and kannon to steel and cannon anytime fer a round of river krumpin! Waaaaaaaagh! :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Week 4 offensive plans
Post by: Veldemere on July 17, 2007, 07:54:33 AM
I too am liking the idea of taking the waters back, in reality I feel they should have been the first thing the other armies would have fought for to ensure supply lines but they were all concerned with land grabs.

Stirland armies would seem naturaly adept at this but I think fluff wise theyr fleet would be not much more than rowing boats as the province is so poor, maybe there should be a few regiments from Nuln setting up gun emplacements for the Stirlanders to bring the enemies to.



Zoggin gitz! Weze Orc Pirates were da furst onez to claim da rivers! And yose umie gitz are supposed to be da smart onez? And when weze gitz Port Maw woikin, den its noffin but troubles fer yose skumgrodz! Kaptain Blacksquig will meetz yose gitz steel and kannon to steel and cannon anytime fer a round of river krumpin! Waaaaaaaagh! :icon_mrgreen:

I apologise, the Orcs had considered it, perhaps a little crudely but we can still rule the waves!

Welcome BigDawg.
Title: Re: Week 4 offensive plans
Post by: wissenlander on July 17, 2007, 11:47:14 AM
Ok Snag, off you go.  I'll deal with you this weekend. :engel:  Shouldn't talk too much though the way my dice rolling has been of late. :dry:
Title: Re: Week 4 offensive plans
Post by: wissenlander on July 17, 2007, 01:33:56 PM
Ok, so to finalize this plan.  Let's see if I've got this right.

We strike out from our defended positions, leaving these fortified positions lightly guarded (but in good shape) and strike towards the woods in a purging effort.  Take out anything evil or anything that moves suspiciously.  Meanwhile, gunboats move up the rivers for fire support and to complete the strangle hold on transportation in the Great Forest.

Does that sound like a good plan?  Any last minute changes?
Title: Re: Week 4 offensive plans
Post by: Dendo Star on July 17, 2007, 01:37:25 PM
I know this is a serious campaign discussion - but I have a question.

Can greenskins even swim?  Are they like primates and unable to due to lack of significant body fat?


Ok, so to finalize this plan.  Let's see if I've got this right.

We strike out from our defended positions, leaving these fortified positions lightly guarded (but in good shape) and strike towards the woods in a purging effort.  Take out anything evil or anything that moves suspiciously.  Meanwhile, gunboats move up the rivers for fire support and to complete the strangle hold on transportation in the Great Forest.

Does that sound like a good plan?  Any last minute changes?

I'd buy that for a dollar.
Title: Re: Week 4 offensive plans
Post by: Veldemere on July 17, 2007, 01:41:50 PM
That sounds good to me, is it too much to mention the shipping of materials and labour for the roads in this as well?
Title: Re: Week 4 offensive plans
Post by: wissenlander on July 17, 2007, 01:46:53 PM
I didn't think they could swim.  But with the right amount of floaties and noodles anything can float. :wink:

I don't think it's much to ask for Veldemere.  It would show that this isn't happening in a vacuum even though these campaigns often do, ie.  everyone arriving in the Great Forest unchecked and unhampered. :roll:
Title: Re: Week 4 offensive plans
Post by: Michael W on July 17, 2007, 04:47:05 PM
It should be more than gunships on the river - transports, too, lots of them, laden with reinforcements and with reassigned armies.  These ships take troops into the fighting and evacuate civilians when necessary.
Title: Re: Week 4 offensive plans
Post by: wissenlander on July 17, 2007, 05:13:00 PM
I like. :-)  Here's the updated version:

We strike out from our defended positions, leaving these fortified positions lightly guarded (but in good shape) and strike towards the woods in a purging effort.  Take out anything evil or anything that moves suspiciously. 

Meanwhile, gunboats, accompanied by transports, move up the rivers for fire support and to complete the strangle hold on transportation in the Great Forest.  Transport vessels unload fresh reinforcements and to evacuate wounded/civilians where necessary.   

What is it exactly that you want mentioned about commerce Veldemere?  We could put in something about sending logs downstream to be collected at a specific staging area, but that might clog the waterways.
Title: Re: Week 4 offensive plans
Post by: Michael W on July 17, 2007, 07:23:55 PM
I know this is only the Talabec Borders, but just a conceptual layout...

(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t128/TexAK83/TalabecPlan.jpg)

Red represents Imperial forces, green the orcs. 

Like it, not like it?  Yes, no? 
Title: Re: Week 4 offensive plans
Post by: wissenlander on July 17, 2007, 07:27:16 PM
I like it.  I think we can strike in any direction really and have the desired effect.  If we post in every report that we're on the offensive trying to kill anything that moves (well almost) and looking for the crown it shouldn't matter much where we report at.  I think this strategy works well in the US, what about the other regions?
Title: Re: Week 4 offensive plans
Post by: Michael W on July 17, 2007, 07:44:39 PM
Nearly every region has borders defined by waterways, and the Talabheim Road runs through the heart of the entire Forest.  Our maneuverability is assured.
Title: Re: Week 4 offensive plans
Post by: Goomb on July 18, 2007, 05:17:26 AM
Don't forget, we have a dodgy little "port" east of Morr's Gate where dem piratez have been based.  As far as greenskins swimming, you can't see if they can if you are laying at the bottom of the river in your shiney tinny armor.

Come on up river, you gits.  We will leave a zogging rocket battery lit for ya!  The rankings do not dampen our lust for spillin yer blood and burnin you out.

WAAAGH!

Overlord Goomb
Talabec Border Cruzaders
Title: Re: Week 4 offensive plans
Post by: Veldemere on July 18, 2007, 09:24:18 AM
I like. :-)  Here's the updated version:

We strike out from our defended positions, leaving these fortified positions lightly guarded (but in good shape) and strike towards the woods in a purging effort.  Take out anything evil or anything that moves suspiciously. 

Meanwhile, gunboats, accompanied by transports, move up the rivers for fire support and to complete the strangle hold on transportation in the Great Forest.  Transport vessels unload fresh reinforcements and to evacuate wounded/civilians where necessary.   

What is it exactly that you want mentioned about commerce Veldemere?  We could put in something about sending logs downstream to be collected at a specific staging area, but that might clog the waterways.

I was meaning more that roads require shingle, fortifying buildings takes rocks, troops need food. Not so much commerce as support arriving by water, meaning the rivers are almost constantly in use, also lending more support to our road building and fortification fluff.
Title: Re: Week 4 offensive plans
Post by: wissenlander on July 18, 2007, 04:29:19 PM
The orcs know about this plan and I just informed the Brets about it as well.  They may even join in, but it's way too early to tell as of yet.

The question came up regarding locations to attack.  My response was that wherever you are currently 'stationed' would be a good place to strike from, around.  I don't necessarily think we need specific locations to attack at this point since it's a broad idea.

Maybe somewhere down the line we could mount an offensive against certain enemy strongholds such as Morr's Gate/Gork's Maw in the Talabec region?
Title: Re: Week 4 offensive plans
Post by: Goomb on July 18, 2007, 04:51:58 PM
Could be quite fluffy, Wissenlander. :icon_biggrin:  Imagine, an Empire force laying siege to a greenskin force.  What a world, what a world!  I will reserve the rest of my comments for a conversation on MSN.

Our orders will be posted today.  Barring any changes, we will be focused on bottling up transportation around Morr's Gate/Gork's Maw and on the roads and rivers, taking slaves and trying to right our sinking ship in the region.   

Good luck!

Goomb
Title: Re: Week 4 offensive plans
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on July 19, 2007, 09:14:57 AM
Well i will try to hold an enflamig speech in the Leopoldscloister to rally the citizens and strike against the Dark Elves scum who tried to take away imperial families.
Title: Re: Week 4 offensive plans
Post by: General Lee Stupid on July 19, 2007, 09:15:52 PM
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Patch, would you and those familiar with this awesome Ironclad please write up some fluff and/or mention it in your reports?
I could help with that if you'd like. 
Title: Re: Week 4 offensive plans
Post by: Dendo Star on July 19, 2007, 09:42:17 PM
Please do!  Include it in you reports or submit the fluff here or to you regional Commander even.
Title: Re: Week 4 offensive plans
Post by: WarbossKurgan on July 20, 2007, 11:06:50 AM
We could include reports of the Imperial Ironclad paddlesteamer that was used during the Storm of Chaos. One of the best bits in the campaign
Yaaaarrr! Them was happy days!

My scurvy crew had a few goes at the Engineers Guild steamboats during SoC. Here's a little taster, mate:

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The first volley sent Orcs diving for cover behind the gunwales.  Splinters of wood exploded around them as bullets buzzed passed their ears.  Kap'n Rukbadruk looked out through a new hole in his boat and scowled.  How were they supposed to fight that thing?  The Orc pirate hulk, Hogwasha, had a single captured cannon and the goblins working it only managed about one shot every three attempts.  The Empire Engineer Corp Gunboat had several cannon on each broadside plus fore and aft rotating metal turrets armed with Hellblaster Volley Guns.  The fore-turret had just fired and created holes through the crude wooden prow, the sails and a few of the Boyz.  Suddenly the Engineer's paddle-wheels started working in opposite directions, churning the brown river-water: they were bringing the port broadside to bear!  Four great cannon and the aft-turret volley gun would soon be blasting the Hogwasha at close range.

For what felt like the hundredth time he growled "Is it ready yet?" at the Orc Bully in charge of the goblin gun-crew.  "Erm… maybe?" shrugged the Bully, he didn't like saying no to the Boss.  "Well, try it then!"  Rukbadruk roared.  The goblins flinched but put a lighted taper to the touch-hole.  Nothing happened.  They looked at each other nervously, then at the Bully.  The Bully looked at Rukbadruk, who opened his mouth to curse the poor Orc.  Before he could say anything a huge explosion sent them all sprawling to the deck.  At first Rukbadruk thought it was the cannon, but it hadn't moved.  As he picked himself up he looked round his crew, a dozen or more of them were pointing at the Gunboat.  He turned and saw smoke and flame billowing from the rear turret: the volley gun had misfired!  It looked as though it had taken out a whole section of the boat's rear as well, men were shouting and crying out and trying to help their injured ship-mates.

Rukbadruk looked back at his excited crew with a huge grin on his face.  "Right Ladz, lets give 'em a taste of Orcish steel.  Follow me!"  with that he jumped the rapidly shortening distance between the two vessels and about forty Orcs did as they were told.
Title: Re: Week 4 offensive plans
Post by: General Lee Stupid on July 20, 2007, 05:31:58 PM
I am just a bit curiouse to how you would like me to write it, maybe how+where it was created, its exploits?  Also is there any fluff to go off already?
Title: Re: Week 4 offensive plans
Post by: BigDAWGSnaga on July 22, 2007, 03:58:56 PM
Double post
Title: Re: Week 4 offensive plans
Post by: BigDAWGSnaga on July 22, 2007, 04:00:13 PM


Zoggin gitz! Weze Orc Pirates were da furst onez to claim da rivers! And yose umie gitz are supposed to be da smart onez? And when weze gitz Port Maw woikin, den its noffin but troubles fer yose skumgrodz! Kaptain Blacksquig will meetz yose gitz steel and kannon to steel and cannon anytime fer a round of river krumpin! Waaaaaaaagh! :icon_mrgreen:

I apologise, the Orcs had considered it, perhaps a little crudely but we can still rule the waves!

Welcome BigDawg.
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Thanks Veldemere! Been a stretch since I was able to post, sorry for the delay! :-D
Thought I could stir the pot a bit and get Wissen ready for our battle in a few weeks with some reports from the Talabec Borders:

The glow of lights from the town illuminated the dark flowing Talabec River. Many of the folk were going about business best left to the dark confines of the night. War was here and the taverns were overflowing with warriors and townsfolk alike. Parched throats were quickly quenched and more beer and ale were consumed to help chase off the cooleness of the night air and the chill of tales from the battlefront.

Kaptain Blacksquig, Orc Pirate and Slaver, watched the activity through his well worn looking glass. The wood on the spyglass was cracked here and there, worn smooth from the old Orc's gnarled hands, but lovingly polished with oils and elbow grease. It was one of the Kaptians most prized possessions, and he kept it close. The lights of the town provided just enough light to see by, the Blacksquig herself had slipped soundlessly into the narrows of the town's jetties. All across the deck, Orc Pirates waited in numbers, crude choppas and boarding hooks wringing in their hands. The ship herself bobbed silently in the water, only the occasional sound of groaning wood belaying her prescence.

Blacksquig surveyed the docks and noted with satisfaction that only a single Ironfist was berthed. Beyond the docks were rows of warehouses holding supplies and powder stores. Smiling to himself, the Kaptain turned to his Orc warriors.

"Ladz! Make ready the Kannons and hoist da kolors!"

The crew scrambled to get to the midships, knocking over one another in their haste to reach the long guns first. Even as the firing ports were flung open, an army of Snotlings were yanking hard on the rusted pulleys, raising the giant, grinning Skullz & Crossbones to the high mast.

On land, the shouts of the Orcs were heard by sentries and sailors alike. Even as they scrambled from the bunks, the men of the Empire saw the black shape of the Orc Hulk in the darkness.

"FIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" bellowed Blacksquig. As one the kannons from the Blacksquig spoke their terrible devestation. Fires exploded out of the mouths of worn kannons, streaking through the night sky to impact with the land. Several shots hit the Ironfist, smashing into her below the waterline and causing the doomed craft to lurch to its side. Another lucking shot hit the powder stores, blossoming the night sky with a thunderous explosion. Flaming debris rained down on nearby building, causes more blazes to break out. Soon an entire block was engulfed in a wall of fire, even as the Orcs were reloading their gunz.

"Hit em again ladz! Dont be lettin any of da gitz live to tell da tale!"

A second salvo of heavy shot rained down on the burning docks, shattering wood and sending humans cartwheeling into the air. Soon the wreakage of the Ironfist sank beneath the dark waters, her fires going out in a sizzling hiss of water. All around the burning buildings were catching their neighbors on fire, adding to the growing inferno. Humans ran like ants in a blind panic, some forming bucket brigades, some looting and others running for their lives!

Kaptain Balcksquig smiled again, seeing the destruction wrought by his crew of brigands. Even as the town continued to consume itself in cleansing fire and smoke, the Blacksquig raised anhcor and drifted off into the darkness up river, leaving the town to her fate....
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Title: Re: Week 4 offensive plans
Post by: BigDAWGSnaga on July 22, 2007, 04:00:35 PM
Annuver one! Sorry!