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All Things Viking!
« on: January 09, 2019, 05:22:10 PM »
Everything Viking and Viking like . If its not Viking then it has to be about strong men slapping others around.
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Re: All Things Viking!
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2019, 05:24:01 PM »
I will start:

So has anyone else watched that Netflix Documentary on Vikings? Called Norsemen, totally what I thought they where like! I believe these are the same folks that migrated to the lands we now call Canada … im such a historian guru  :biggriin:   

https://youtu.be/DR1Kb7b_IKk ( why Vikings wear horns on their helmets)
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« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2019, 05:48:35 PM »
*casually awaits our historical Scandinavian expert Mathi to show up and demand the thread name be changed along with walls of text*


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« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2019, 10:46:45 PM »
*casually awaits our historical Scandinavian expert Mathi to show up and demand the thread name be changed along with walls of text*





HAHAHAHAHHA  :engel:
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« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2019, 05:19:44 PM »
ROCK!!!
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« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2019, 07:32:15 PM »
The integrering thing with viking age scandinavians was that the word viking for many more of less equaled pirate combined with terrorist.
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« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2019, 11:08:56 PM »
I listed Viking as a job profession goal throughout high school and a number of teachers never forgave me. Not after "Dress as your future" day.

You should check out the TV series Vikings. Especially the early seasons with Travis Fimmel as Ragnar. Totally great.

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« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2019, 11:24:53 PM »
I listed Viking as a job profession goal throughout high school and a number of teachers never forgave me. Not after "Dress as your future" day.

You should check out the TV series Vikings. Especially the early seasons with Travis Fimmel as Ragnar. Totally great.


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« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2019, 12:56:59 PM »
Got my father in law a viking plushy for christmas.

https://goo.gl/images/XciJkC

He has named him Ragnar.
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« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2019, 04:37:45 PM »
I listed Viking as a job profession goal throughout high school and a number of teachers never forgave me. Not after "Dress as your future" day.

You should check out the TV series Vikings. Especially the early seasons with Travis Fimmel as Ragnar. Totally great.


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« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2019, 07:30:44 PM »
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Re: All Things Viking!
« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2019, 11:24:16 AM »
Real vikings do not watch "vikings". They carve blood eagles on the producers.

Do NOT watch Vikings... They are not even dressed as we know the vikings really were dressed. They are just another postmoderns image of contemporary bikers as vikings.

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« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2019, 06:34:09 PM »
Real vikings do not watch "vikings". They carve blood eagles on the producers.

Do NOT watch Vikings... They are not even dressed as we know the vikings really were dressed. They are just another postmoderns image of contemporary bikers as vikings.

HAHAHAHAHAHA
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« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2019, 02:11:38 AM »
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« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2019, 04:24:22 AM »
Real vikings do not watch "vikings". They carve blood eagles on the producers.

Do NOT watch Vikings... They are not even dressed as we know the vikings really were dressed. They are just another postmoderns image of contemporary bikers as vikings.

Mathi I really appreciate that your talking about how they dressed, and I was getting ready to whine about how they keep killing historical people who don't actually die for the next couple of decades.

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« Reply #16 on: January 16, 2019, 07:47:06 PM »
man now I have to pay attention to garb?
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Re: All Things Viking!
« Reply #17 on: January 16, 2019, 10:12:45 PM »
Real vikings do not watch "vikings". They carve blood eagles on the producers.

Do NOT watch Vikings... They are not even dressed as we know the vikings really were dressed. They are just another postmoderns image of contemporary bikers as vikings.
On that note, do you have a show or documentary you would recommend we watch concerning Vikings?

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« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2019, 12:14:42 AM »
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« Reply #19 on: January 17, 2019, 03:10:12 PM »
I will think about it. The BBC have made some good viking documentaries.

Yes, you have to pay attention to your dress, Zak. Real vikings are VERY fashion sensitive. The bishop Alquin of York ranted about how the english women should stop fancy the norsmen just because they washed once a week, took care of their looks (a comb, a pair of siccors, a tweezer and such was a must have for any proper viking) and were well dressed with fancy stuff.

I hate those side shaved heads and samurai style manbuns that is passed of as "viking". Bollocks! The contemporary images we have of viking men shows well trimmed beards and moustaches, and something like a Beatles style haircut. Long in the neck but well kept.

Looks were very important. If you went to die you did your best to die well dressed and good looking so you came to the Gods in a dashing fashion. If you proceeded to chop down a dozen saxons while looking dashing so much better.

Sadly, "Vikings" do their best to portray vikings according to our own weird idea of what a real macho badass man should look (that is, like a criminal thug, which is downright sick). In short, the vikings would not agree on much. They would probably see many of those who try to be and look badass "viking" or like bikers etc as filthy, poorly dressed pieces of garbage.
The more badass and succesful a viking, also the real vikings considered vikings in their time (that means by most scandinavian seen as dangerous "Bad hombres") would strive to look the part. If you were succesful, you showed it in some way. You had fancy jewelley and bling, used expensive cloth and colours in your clothes, also expensive fur but NOT leather because leather was raingear and poor mans clothing.

In a way, the hombres and the ganstas are more viking than most wannabes. Why? Because they are not shy of wearing bling or show of their success with expensive clothes. A viking might see a ghetto gansta with that gold chain and rings and say "Respect!" but consider some Alt-right dude with shaved head as "pathetic wanker". He would probably say it too the persons face too, just for shits and giggles.

In short, people are rarely interested in the vikings. Not in what they really were or what they really did or what they really looked. They are interested in using them to bolster their own lack of self-esteem. I would say that the very idea of using the vikings as an ideal image on how to be is directly un-viking.

Still, Zak is forgiven for being american. He has a long way to go but there is potential there. One day, he may carve the blood eagle on his foes steak.
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Re: All Things Viking!
« Reply #20 on: January 17, 2019, 05:14:44 PM »
I agree, it comes from the modern idea of what is badass and not the classic sense of badass. Most "historical" shows are so muted when it comes to color. Everything is beige, brown, black, or white as if clothing was so archaic as to not have colorful dyes. And the stitching of the clothes in these shows! Good god man! Its like costume designers or show runners think people couldn't sew pre-industrial age! Clothes have these huge stitches made with leather threads instead of you know actual thread! I think Matt Easton talked about it in one of his videos about historical movies or tv shows:

Leather biker gear in Vikings Season 1 - why?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fO6gQK5uA5M

Knitted chainmail and weird plate armour in movies and TV (especially Vikings season 1)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qwcsz8MuGug

Why wear studded leather armour, when a gambeson is cheaper and better?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzeLAGuCucg

BBC's Musketeers - what's with the costumes?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZQxEYXaGQg
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« Reply #21 on: January 17, 2019, 07:35:12 PM »
I will think about it. The BBC have made some good viking documentaries.

Yes, you have to pay attention to your dress, Zak. Real vikings are VERY fashion sensitive. The bishop Alquin of York ranted about how the english women should stop fancy the norsmen just because they washed once a week, took care of their looks (a comb, a pair of siccors, a tweezer and such was a must have for any proper viking) and were well dressed with fancy stuff.

I hate those side shaved heads and samurai style manbuns that is passed of as "viking". Bollocks! The contemporary images we have of viking men shows well trimmed beards and moustaches, and something like a Beatles style haircut. Long in the neck but well kept.

Looks were very important. If you went to die you did your best to die well dressed and good looking so you came to the Gods in a dashing fashion. If you proceeded to chop down a dozen saxons while looking dashing so much better.

Sadly, "Vikings" do their best to portray vikings according to our own weird idea of what a real macho badass man should look (that is, like a criminal thug, which is downright sick). In short, the vikings would not agree on much. They would probably see many of those who try to be and look badass "viking" or like bikers etc as filthy, poorly dressed pieces of garbage.
The more badass and succesful a viking, also the real vikings considered vikings in their time (that means by most scandinavian seen as dangerous "Bad hombres") would strive to look the part. If you were succesful, you showed it in some way. You had fancy jewelley and bling, used expensive cloth and colours in your clothes, also expensive fur but NOT leather because leather was raingear and poor mans clothing.

In a way, the hombres and the ganstas are more viking than most wannabes. Why? Because they are not shy of wearing bling or show of their success with expensive clothes. A viking might see a ghetto gansta with that gold chain and rings and say "Respect!" but consider some Alt-right dude with shaved head as "pathetic wanker". He would probably say it too the persons face too, just for shits and giggles.

In short, people are rarely interested in the vikings. Not in what they really were or what they really did or what they really looked. They are interested in using them to bolster their own lack of self-esteem. I would say that the very idea of using the vikings as an ideal image on how to be is directly un-viking.

Still, Zak is forgiven for being american. He has a long way to go but there is potential there. One day, he may carve the blood eagle on his foes steak.



awesome I did not know much of that...also now that I am part Scandinavian I need to look the part lol 
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Re: All Things Viking!
« Reply #22 on: January 25, 2019, 12:55:02 AM »
I agree with the inhumane treatment of animals.

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« Reply #23 on: January 25, 2019, 12:58:45 PM »
The one holding the goblet looks like he's chosen poorly

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« Reply #24 on: September 18, 2019, 08:32:45 PM »
https://youtu.be/D_gdiwcCrnA The path of the Viking starts with you
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