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Title: No New Daemons Army Book?
Post by: Overlord Fuzz on August 06, 2010, 04:36:43 PM
I looked and saw Daemons launched, but I didn't see a new book. Are they not getting one, my friend wants to start daemons and he was wondering to buy the one on the site now or wait.
Title: Re: No New Daemons Army Book?
Post by: Finlay on August 06, 2010, 04:41:57 PM
They wont be getting one for a while, they are one of the newest books.

The next rumoured book is Orcs and Goblins, sometime in the first quarter of 2011.
Title: Re: No New Daemons Army Book?
Post by: Delthos on August 06, 2010, 05:29:06 PM
Yeah, this isn't a new army release, just some new plastic models for units that didn't have them in plastic before. Their army book is fairly new. They won't be getting a new book for a while, so your friend may as well go for it.
Title: Re: No New Daemons Army Book?
Post by: Syn Ace on August 06, 2010, 05:33:38 PM
Yeah this was just a splash release, not a full bore redo.
Title: Re: No New Daemons Army Book?
Post by: darkman889 on August 07, 2010, 10:00:17 PM
Hmmmm, after Orcs and Goblins, Bretonnia?  My brother won't even play anymore because they got so nerfed.  Do they have a timeline of when books come out or is it random?
Title: Re: No New Daemons Army Book?
Post by: Freman Bloodglaive on August 07, 2010, 10:47:55 PM
Well with 8th edition rules rendering Daemons slightly less powerful I wouldn't be surprised if Mat Ward wanted to redo the book. I imagine he wouldn't want to make major changes, just drop their points cost by a quarter (so they can horde better) and improve their save to 4+ while allowing Nurgle to combine ward and regenearation saves. After all, that makes them better value right?
Title: Re: No New Daemons Army Book?
Post by: Delthos on August 07, 2010, 10:51:57 PM
There is a reason ward saves and regen saves are allowed any more. I highly doubt they'll let Nurgle be able to do it again. Even with the slight nerf batting Daemons took in 8th edition, they are still one of the top tier armies. I seriously hope they don't get a points decrease or have their ward saves increase to 4+. Those would put them right back at the the top of the list for the best army again.
Title: Re: No New Daemons Army Book?
Post by: MrDWhitey on August 07, 2010, 10:53:05 PM
His post was possibly slightly sarcastic.
Title: Re: No New Daemons Army Book?
Post by: Freman Bloodglaive on August 07, 2010, 10:56:14 PM
Sarcastic? Moi?

What would give anyone that idea? ;)
Title: Re: No New Daemons Army Book?
Post by: Finlay on August 07, 2010, 11:09:48 PM
Hmmmm, after Orcs and Goblins, Bretonnia?  My brother won't even play anymore because they got so nerfed.  Do they have a timeline of when books come out or is it random?
What? They didn't get nerfed that bad.

Did your brother suck, and like to just autowin?
Title: Re: No New Daemons Army Book?
Post by: darkman889 on August 07, 2010, 11:18:34 PM
Well, my bro is young, and he does suck...(I hope he never learns I said that!) and he never wins.  I've noticed he does have an extraordinary amount of bad luck.  But...he had an entirely knight army, no infantry, and his cavalry can't break anything to save their life now.  And steadfast makes him pull his hair out. 
Title: Re: No New Daemons Army Book?
Post by: Freman Bloodglaive on August 07, 2010, 11:23:22 PM
Tell him he wants great weapons... great weapons and cannon... great weapons, cannon, and fantical dedication to the Pope...
Okay, let's start over.
Title: Re: No New Daemons Army Book?
Post by: darkman889 on August 07, 2010, 11:28:22 PM
Tell him he wants great weapons... great weapons and cannon... great weapons, cannon, and fantical dedication to the Pope...
Okay, let's start over.

My bro plays Bretonnians.
Title: Re: No New Daemons Army Book?
Post by: Delthos on August 07, 2010, 11:35:22 PM
His post was possibly slightly sarcastic.

Hmm, didn't detect it at all! :eusa_wall:
Title: Re: No New Daemons Army Book?
Post by: Freman Bloodglaive on August 07, 2010, 11:37:54 PM
Then he's in trouble isn't he. :)

Make bigger units of knights. They only need three models to get a rank so it should be possible to gain enough ranks to break the steadfast (block of 18?) and then rely on Bret's ability to kill to break the enemy.
Title: Re: No New Daemons Army Book?
Post by: Finlay on August 08, 2010, 12:09:08 AM
Well, my bro is young, and he does suck...(I hope he never learns I said that!) and he never wins.  I've noticed he does have an extraordinary amount of bad luck.  But...he had an entirely knight army, no infantry, and his cavalry can't break anything to save their life now.  And steadfast makes him pull his hair out.
Ah, I thought you meant that he played Demons.
Brettonians have been nerfed, yes.
Title: Re: No New Daemons Army Book?
Post by: commandant on August 08, 2010, 12:49:29 AM
Only slightly.   Their lance formation means that they should be able to break steadfast easy enough, except against battle buses, and they do have cheap infantry, its crap but that is okay when you horde up, and some of the best archers in the game
Title: Re: No New Daemons Army Book?
Post by: Odominus on August 08, 2010, 01:27:30 AM
And don't forget that dude that has heroic KB ::heretic::