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Offline NulnInVoid

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Hi all I  just going through the empire war scroll and have been looking at the statetroop rules. If I use 40 plus state troops that gives me +3 to hit bonuses , does that mean I could be hitting on +1 rolls? Can't see anywhere in the rules saying that a roll of a 1 is always a fail? Grateful is someone could clarify!

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Re: Age of sigmar rules clarification - state troops - hitting on +1 ???
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2015, 09:26:19 PM »
I looked at that and it looks all too easy to essentially gain auto hits... Just like in real life everyone in the formation gets to participate in the battle in case they feel left out it something.
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Re: Age of sigmar rules clarification - state troops - hitting on +1 ???
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2015, 09:38:39 PM »
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Re: Age of sigmar rules clarification - state troops - hitting on +1 ???
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2015, 10:44:20 PM »
Hi all I  just going through the empire war scroll and have been looking at the statetroop rules. If I use 40 plus state troops that gives me +3 to hit bonuses , does that mean I could be hitting on +1 rolls? Can't see anywhere in the rules saying that a roll of a 1 is always a fail? Grateful is someone could clarify!

You would hit on a 1+.   So that would be an automatic hit.   You could do the same with 30 spearment and a celestial hurricanum nearby

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Re: Age of sigmar rules clarification - state troops - hitting on +1 ???
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2015, 11:06:20 PM »
The dice is hit or miss, 2 sided,

so you hit on a 1+ but also miss automatically,

in this event you have to both pick up your Heman models and go toe to toe in hand
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Re: Age of sigmar rules clarification - state troops - hitting on +1 ???
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2015, 12:41:34 AM »
Four pages of rules. Thirty pages of errata and FAQ.
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Re: Age of sigmar rules clarification - state troops - hitting on +1 ???
« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2015, 12:46:31 AM »
Four pages of rules. Thirty pages of errata and FAQ.

Errata and FAQ from GW? That's the biggest leap of faith I've seen yet.

More seriously, they may do that for the new units, but I think this is the last attention the old ones are going to get.

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Re: Age of sigmar rules clarification - state troops - hitting on +1 ???
« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2015, 03:36:47 AM »
I don't think this needs an FAQ. If you hit on a 1+ then you always hit. There is no more "Roll of One Always Fails" rule.

Honestly, in the age of basic troops having the same value as elite troops, hitting automatically may be one of the few things that makes our State Troops still worthy.
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Re: Age of sigmar rules clarification - state troops - hitting on +1 ???
« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2015, 04:19:47 AM »
You all have surely noted that the 4-page rule book is a hook of a cheap trick?
It's all fair and square to say: 'look at the warscroll to see how a unit works' and call it one sentence of rules... But it doesn't make it true or real.

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Re: Age of sigmar rules clarification - state troops - hitting on +1 ???
« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2015, 05:04:02 AM »
the errata from GW would just be fixing typo's in the title or something.

the FAQ part would consist of:
If there is a disagreement just dice off with your opponent!
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Re: Age of sigmar rules clarification - state troops - hitting on +1 ???
« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2015, 05:06:56 AM »
the errata from GW would just be fixing typo's in the title or something.

the FAQ part would consist of:
If there is a disagreement just dice off with your opponent!

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Re: Age of sigmar rules clarification - state troops - hitting on +1 ???
« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2015, 07:57:14 AM »
The dice is hit or miss, 2 sided,

so you hit on a 1+ but also miss automatically,

in this event you have to both pick up your Heman models and go toe to toe in hand

I assume you mean He-Man. 

I get that you don't like the changes, but in the posts you've put up, you've not indicated that you've even tried it.  Just dismissed it outright in what I would have to say is a sneery manner, like none of us are allowed to give it a fair go, or even like it.

Given that your warhammer spending is all on eBay, for OOP stuff, and you have enough to keep playing for years, and that this stuff seems to have taken you by surprise in the last couple of days, you're not keeping up with what GW are doing anyway, so they're going to look for other new customers.

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« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2015, 11:16:44 AM »
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Re: Age of sigmar rules clarification - state troops - hitting on +1 ???
« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2015, 04:41:29 PM »
you're not keeping up with what GW are doing anyway, so they're going to look for other new customers.

GW does not market their products (except internally to existing players). GW has always relied heavily on word-of-mouth and experienced gamers to bring in new players. If GW alienates a portion of their current fan base, does that help to bring in new players? Word-of-mouth goes both ways, it can drive off potential players also.
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Re: Age of sigmar rules clarification - state troops - hitting on +1 ???
« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2015, 04:51:05 PM »
Is that still true, they might change that with this new game.  We've already heard they are promiting this at conventions and trade shows outside of their own.

They've also given out a review copy to GameInformer, possibly others. 

Can we take for granted what to expect based on what they've always done, since not very many of us believed that Age of Sigmar would be such a departure from what they've done before