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Title: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: GamesPoet on February 03, 2021, 10:36:19 PM
The information being provided is growing.

The Empire ...
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/02/06/cartography-in-the-old-worldgw-homepage-post-1fw-homepage-post-1/

And Bretonnia … with Orcs in the Pale Sisters … and High Elfs on the coast ...
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/12/28/the-old-world-your-first-look-at-the-map-of-bretonnia/

Kislev concept art …
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/03/23/the-old-world-ice-guard-of-kislevgw-homepage-post-4fw-homepage-post-2/

And more Kislev concept art ...
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/05/11/old-world-update-bearsgw-homepage-post-4/

Video of comments from some Old World designers ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STAxzrnd0aA

Video of Kislev fighting Chaos for Warhammer III video gaming …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAr7yUlM0Po

Map of Cathay ...
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/02/03/watch-kislev-battle-a-bloodthirster-in-the-first-trailer-for-total-war-warhammer-iii/#gallery-1
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: Artobans Ghost on February 03, 2021, 11:15:06 PM
Aaargh! Stop! Stop!! The vortex is dragging me in. I CANNOT afford this nonsense on the horizon. I have nothing left to mortgage.
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: Warlord on February 04, 2021, 12:37:01 PM
You have kids don’t you? :evil:
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: Gankom on May 12, 2021, 06:20:23 PM
I posted this in the gamer thread but I thought it might be good here as well.

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Trailer for the new Total Warhammer game coming. A Boyar goes bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JWqlDxEQps

There's also a lot of talk about how closely GW is working with the game company when it comes to The Old World, and how they're working to share ascetics and stuff. So there's a chance we can get some ideas about what The Old World game will be like based on this. For example, I notice we see both bear cavalry and ice maidens in this trailer. Both things previewed as coming in The Old World...
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: Jmash on May 13, 2021, 09:12:02 AM
If it's anything to go by, new plastic Kislevites are going to be pretty cool! The huge ice golem/bear thing is clearly already ticking the box of huge monster unit to be expected.

Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: Gankom on May 13, 2021, 04:08:33 PM
I'm interested to see what folks say on the board (I remember Demigryphs coming out.) but I actually like the idea of Bear Cav. They look neat and would be fantastic converting opportunities for heroes and lords.

The witch warriors? Ice maidens? I also think look neat. I'd use them sparingly if I got any, dont want to much magic infused stuff, but as a special unit I think they fit in.
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: Gankom on May 13, 2021, 04:44:31 PM
Another new trailer for Total Warhammer is out, and with tons of new pictures. While its a seperate video game, we're fairly sure its going to be linked to the Old World so could be some good hints.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/05/13/a-giant-bear-beats-up-daemons-in-total-war-warhammer-iiis-new-gameplay-trailer/

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Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: Gankom on May 13, 2021, 04:45:32 PM
Apparently one of the streams confirmed all the Kislev stuff from the game will be in Old World, Im just to lazy to look for a time stamp.
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: GamesPoet on May 13, 2021, 07:48:24 PM
I like that they are fleshing out Kislev.  The idea that there've got multiple heraldry assigned to different areas of their region is great! :icon_cool: :::cheers:::

Imagine if they fleshed out Tilea more.  Of course I am dreaming. :icon_mrgreen: :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: Old Stonebeard on May 13, 2021, 11:06:29 PM
Good stuff, but that ice bear elemental looks awfully high fantasy...  :closed-eyes: :happy: :-P

Old Stonebeard
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: GamesPoet on May 13, 2021, 11:16:07 PM
Welcome to the influence of W:AoS. :icon_wink: :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: S.O.F on May 14, 2021, 12:03:47 AM
Good stuff, but that ice bear elemental looks awful...

I agree  :evil: :wink:

Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: Jmash on May 14, 2021, 10:22:27 AM
Some pretty interesting troop types there from the Survival mode gameplay trailer.

Tsar guard look like nicely styled Kislev footsloggers with *cue Skyrim accent* curved swords, Kossars bringing the ranged attacks, Winged Lancers, War Bear cavalry, a bear-carriage Tsar cannon "Little Grom", couple of characters, ice guard and the women with ice bows all looking good, but I'm most intrigued by a unit called Streltsi!?

It's blokes with great axes... that are also rifles!? Shoot 'em from the handle then hack 'em to bits with the other end!

Ha!
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: S.O.F on May 14, 2021, 10:48:09 AM
It's blokes with great axes... that are also rifles!? Shoot 'em from the handle then hack 'em to bits with the other end!

They are based on historical Muscovy units. By WHFRP 2 fluff, the first Streltsi were Kossar regiments from Erengrad the Prince their sought to modernize. The idea has spread to other parts of Kislev and Kossar regiments from other regions are sent to the drilling school there for a similar upgrade.

Kossars are of course loosely based on the Cossacks of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth what with their limited and hereditary number but I wonder how much of that fluff will work itself in to either the tabletop or W3TW. I've not watched all the various other test runs of the battle by media so if some folks have seen any Ungol Horsemen, lower grade melee infantry, or I hope War Wagons I'd be curious to hear of them.
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: Brother Sutek on May 19, 2021, 01:47:03 AM
Good stuff, but that ice bear elemental looks awful...

I agree  :evil: :wink:


You're not wrong.  :ph34r:
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: GamesPoet on June 14, 2021, 11:25:50 AM
Haven't heard a peep from GW since February 3rd.  has anyone else seen new info?
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: Gankom on June 24, 2021, 05:49:46 PM
Nope, not yet. Although there's a ton of rumours about if/what Old World stuff will be on the new Warhammer Streaming Service.
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on July 21, 2021, 12:37:29 PM
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/07/21/square-bases-and-kislev-ascendant-see-your-questions-about-warhammer-the-old-world-answered/

Square bases! Being able to field the old armies. Set during the Age of the three Emperors.  :biggriin:
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: GamesPoet on July 21, 2021, 01:02:31 PM
So first update since February.  Good to see.

Seems like they are coming up with a square based game system, with rank and file, and using rules from the old editions as well.  Interesting.
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: Gankom on July 21, 2021, 04:08:48 PM
Interesting to see the new Kislev borders to.

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Students of Warhammer lore will also note that the borders of Kislev are very different from what they may be familiar with. The eastern border is not here defined by the World’s Edge Mountains, but in fact extends through the Belyevobota Pass, through the Great Skull Lands – northernmost reaches of the Dark Lands – through the Mountains of Mourn, and out into the limitless expanses of the eastern steppes beyond. Clearly, at this time Kislev was a vast empire indeed, its territories encompassing lands said by some to be haunted by Hobgoblins, Centaurs and Half-Orcs, though who can say which of these, if any, are true?

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Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: Jmash on July 21, 2021, 04:47:50 PM
Big focus on Kislev it seems, no surprise there though. I guess Kislev vs Chaos will likely be the starter set?

Given the setting in the timeline as well it certainly makes things interesting, are we going to see Magnus the Pious getting a miniature perhaps???

Also wonder if the Empire's civil war will open up the opportunity to have stylistically different human factions beyond just Empire/Bretonnia.

Ah well, it'll still be years off yet but good to have an update :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on July 21, 2021, 06:49:17 PM
I have a pile of grey empire plastic still around. I sold most finished stuff, war machines etc. But I could not part with my with my mortar, "Chalice of Sigmars wrath" so I got that still!

Stirland fur immer!
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: GamesPoet on July 21, 2021, 11:29:53 PM
And in this era of the Empire ... does anyone know how Stirland aligned themselves?

Suspect Middenland covers Nordland, Ostland, and Hochland, maybe Hochland is in with Talabecland, Ostermark, and perhaps Stirland included, and imagine Reikland, Averland, and Wissenland are together.  Hopefully, there's someone more familiar with the fluff of those times than I.

Regardless, good have this newest word regarding the project. :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: brr-icy on July 22, 2021, 11:10:10 AM
I am pretty excited about new kislev models, the bear cav especially. But I don't have any faith in GW's rule writers at this point, they haven't written a good set of rules that i enjoy playing for about 15 years. We will see, i am definitely tentatively interested in the game as a whole.
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: GamesPoet on July 22, 2021, 11:18:04 AM
I'm not uninterested in Kislev, and suspect the motif could bring a lot of former Empire players, and some new players from W:AoS, back to the Old World.

As for rules, definitely more of the wait and see attitude here, and trying not to get my hopes up.  Plus, here's hoping they don't just complete it as a project, and there's some momentum to continue moving forward in a positive fashion, although I'm not betting on it.
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: brr-icy on July 22, 2021, 03:43:04 PM
I am more excited for what I can use in the 6th army than what is coming. The Gryphon Legion and Winged Lancers models are too close, so if I use the bear riders on 50x50 and double the wounds, they would make a cool Gryphon Legion instead of the old models
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: GamesPoet on July 22, 2021, 04:29:14 PM
That makes sense.  Just remember two words ... "Cursed City". :icon_wink: :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: brr-icy on July 22, 2021, 05:41:29 PM
Isn't that the game that only exists in pictures?
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: GamesPoet on July 22, 2021, 09:46:20 PM
 :icon_lol: :icon_exclaim:
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on August 10, 2021, 09:27:37 AM
I imagined Stirland to support the Emperor in Altdorf and therefore side with Riekland etc. After all, they seem to reason along the lines that if Talabecland say go, we say no!
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: Jmash on August 10, 2021, 01:58:05 PM
Been pondering this today and wondered whether any new Empire stuff for the Old World will also be crossover with AoS 'Freeguild'. This is mainly because I have some duplicate bits and bobs and it's a personal dilemma whether to splash them all now on my Wissenlanders or whether to bide my time and keep some in reserve for potential kitbashing with anything new to come a few years down the line...

Annoyingly I'm also once again second-guessing my choice of round bases but hey-ho, they're a visual collection not a gaming army so I need to keep reminding myself of that!

I know this has been discussed a little bit previously but my concern is more that the Empire won't get much attention beyond a few characters and heroes, with the rank and file remaining as they are now...

Hmm
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: Jmash on August 10, 2021, 02:00:02 PM
Do we know if Solland is still alive and kicking at the time of this 'revival' of the Old World?

I don't remember the years they said this would cover (and am too lazy to google it :-P) and whether it's before or after the destruction in the South?...
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: brr-icy on August 10, 2021, 03:50:51 PM
Visually, they still look better on squares ;)
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: Jmash on August 10, 2021, 03:55:44 PM
Visually, they still look better on squares ;)

Naa I have to disagree, hence the decision in the first place. People always say a mini has a 'golden angle' where it looks best and sometimes that's really hard to line up in relation to the square base. In that respect roundies have the aesthetic upper hand IMO though I do plan on getting/making movement trays that will have flat edges for when they're on display.

Anyway - we digress :biggriin:
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: GamesPoet on August 10, 2021, 08:49:54 PM
Do we know if Solland is still alive and kicking at the time of this 'revival' of the Old World?

I don't remember the years they said this would cover (and am too lazy to google it :-P) and whether it's before or after the destruction in the South?...
Solland's end came in 1707

The origins of The Time of The Three Emperors was in 1152, its actual start was in 1547, while in 1750 there were 4 emperors for a wee bit, and its end came in 2304 when Magnus the Pious brought all of the provinces in underneath one Empire.
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: Jmash on August 10, 2021, 09:44:37 PM
Sooo yes?

Solland still exists at the time of the proposed Old World revival. Oooh goody! :biggriin:

Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: GamesPoet on August 10, 2021, 10:43:28 PM
People are going to believe what they want to believe, hope what they want to hope.
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: S.O.F on August 14, 2021, 05:07:51 PM
Sooo yes?

Solland still exists at the time of the proposed Old World revival. Oooh goody! :biggriin:

The setting is post Vampire Wars and pre-Great War so no Solland.
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: GamesPoet on August 14, 2021, 06:44:16 PM
Oh my, leave it to SOF to come along to settle another's beliefs and hopes.









 :engel:
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: Jmash on August 15, 2021, 11:32:40 AM
Sooo yes?

Solland still exists at the time of the proposed Old World revival. Oooh goody! :biggriin:

The setting is post Vampire Wars and pre-Great War so no Solland.

Ah well, nevermind eh. I think I've decided to hang on to a few of the rarer bits I have in my bits box in anticipation of hopefully kitbashing with whatever comes along in the future so maybe instead of Sollanders I'll drift towards one of the other provinces I quite like, maybe Hochland or Averland perhaps.
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: S.O.F on August 15, 2021, 07:36:08 PM
Oh my, leave it to SOF to come along to settle another's beliefs and hopes.


You plan the parade, I'll bring the rain ;)
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: GamesPoet on August 15, 2021, 10:41:27 PM
 :icon_lol:  Suspect you'll be bringing beer. :icon_wink:
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: Zak on August 24, 2021, 08:56:23 PM
So the game is going to be a combination of 3rd edition to 8th ? did i hear that right? 1st and 2nd being more of an RPG
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: GamesPoet on August 24, 2021, 11:30:17 PM
Is that the rumor?
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: Zak on August 25, 2021, 12:29:34 AM
Is that the rumor?

Yes, as far as i know ........... can I source it ,nope
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: Zygmund on August 25, 2021, 08:18:44 AM
Sourced for you:

"The Old World will gather up all our favourite mechanics from the 3rd edition to the 8th edition** and add new elements where needed to create something deeply familiar yet fresh and new.

** The 1st and, to some extent, 2nd editions were more of a roleplaying game with miniatures than a tabletop war game, with Warhammer Fantasy Battle as we know it truly being born to the world with its 3rd edition."

From:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/07/21/square-bases-and-kislev-ascendant-see-your-questions-about-warhammer-the-old-world-answered/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Article&utm_campaign=Old+World+Studio+perspective+of+Kislev (https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/07/21/square-bases-and-kislev-ascendant-see-your-questions-about-warhammer-the-old-world-answered/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Article&utm_campaign=Old+World+Studio+perspective+of+Kislev)
(21. Jul 2021)

-Z
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: Zak on August 26, 2021, 03:08:24 PM
Sourced for you:

"The Old World will gather up all our favourite mechanics from the 3rd edition to the 8th edition** and add new elements where needed to create something deeply familiar yet fresh and new.

** The 1st and, to some extent, 2nd editions were more of a roleplaying game with miniatures than a tabletop war game, with Warhammer Fantasy Battle as we know it truly being born to the world with its 3rd edition."

From:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/07/21/square-bases-and-kislev-ascendant-see-your-questions-about-warhammer-the-old-world-answered/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Article&utm_campaign=Old+World+Studio+perspective+of+Kislev (https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/07/21/square-bases-and-kislev-ascendant-see-your-questions-about-warhammer-the-old-world-answered/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Article&utm_campaign=Old+World+Studio+perspective+of+Kislev)
(21. Jul 2021)

-Z


OK cool, thanks
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: brr-icy on August 27, 2021, 03:23:15 PM
Hopefully they leave most of 8th out of it. there's a reason the game died there.
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: Zak on August 27, 2021, 07:59:32 PM
I hope they give us Empire troops like 4th edition.
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: GamesPoet on September 21, 2021, 05:10:29 PM
Gankom posted this elsewhere, although looks like they are talking about "units", and so here we go ...

 https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/09/21/read-the-official-background-for-total-war-warhammer-iiis-most-deadly-units/

Seems like there's definitely an effort for expanding into Cathay.
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: Jmash on September 21, 2021, 10:20:18 PM
I guess for GW Kislev and Cathay are old enough to be truly Old World but gives them a relatively fresh slate to create new things and for the whole venture to feel like a progression rather than simply a rehash of what was.
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: GamesPoet on September 21, 2021, 11:53:52 PM
Probably true, and as is the idea of having three empire nations, issues in Bretonnia between them and the Orcs, plus the involvement of High Elf territories there as well.
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: Jmash on September 23, 2021, 11:55:32 AM
Good commercial move too I suppose. There's a good market for GW over in the far east but they've never had a great amount of tabletop or indeed video game representation before, certainly not in the Old World/Fantasy/AoS setting...

(I know it's all fiction but it's not hard to make the leaps to the real world inspirations for a lot of stuff)

Anyway, we digress. I followed the link to the Total War 3 trailer but it wasn't there! I better go find it on YouTube or something.
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: Gankom on October 07, 2021, 04:02:11 PM
New preview is up for the Old World!
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/10/07/discover-warhammer-the-old-worlds-ultimate-getaway-for-exiled-lords-and-rotten-princes/

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With all the buzz surrounding the long-awaited reveal of Grand Cathay, our minds are turned once again to the goings-on in Warhammer: The Old World. Since revealing the chivalrous lands of Bretonnia and the frozen north of Kislev, the team has been hard at work on one of the lesser-known areas of the setting. Today, Andy Hoare from the Warhammer Studio is here to tell us all about the ever-changing Border Princes.

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I have to say, I really did not expect them to be filling in so many of the empty spaces. I really did think they'd be sticking to the 'main' areas at least to start.
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: Jmash on October 07, 2021, 04:18:50 PM
Oooh juicy!  :::cheers:::

Looks to be even more expansion into the uncharted lands of Old World lore - the Border Princes.

Maybe there is some hope for human factions afterall, we could end up with a revival of Brets, new Empire, Kislev, Cathay and some rag tag scoundrels from beyond the Black Mountains!?
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: GamesPoet on October 07, 2021, 08:50:06 PM
Good to see Matorea on the map back then. :icon_cool: :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: Zak on October 08, 2021, 01:21:45 AM
good stuff
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: brr-icy on October 08, 2021, 11:34:36 AM
I'm not surprised they are filling holes, they do want to sell new models alongside the returning player's collections being dusted off. If the rules are good enough, I have an "all the things" method of collecting that will be an add on to my current 6th collection (only if they keep the yahtzee with miniatures and most of 8th out of it)
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: Naitsabes on October 08, 2021, 05:22:33 PM
....my current 6th collection (only if they keep the yahtzee with miniatures and most of 8th out of it)

I so hope you are wrong and the chesshammer 6th edition does not make a comeback. GW can only make one of us happy. Though, I wouldn't put it beyond them to fail both of us. :-P
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: GamesPoet on October 08, 2021, 09:02:48 PM
Well I'd take a 6th edition style over 7th or 8th as well.  8th was all about big things and massive figure units, and that didn't impress.

However, it is my understanding that they are planning to do something with the rules that pulls from 3rd thru 8th.  Hopefully that means not W:AoS, and probably not, because they are going to use square bases (if their recent comments are true), and not the round used with W:AoS.
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: Gankom on October 08, 2021, 09:24:59 PM
The major thing is that based don't actually matter in Age of Sigmar. The round bases are far more for ascetic then any real rules mechanic. I can see them testing some rules from AoS, or perhaps bringing in things like the subfaction rules.

I do have some small concerns that the Old World is quickly going to run into the problem Fantasy, AoS and 40k have, which is that they introduce so much stuff that it takes forever to update anything. End up with so many factions, none of them get a particularly decent work. Or worse, they get a good introduction/first wave, and then sit years without any follow ups. Fyreslayers, Brets, etc.
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: Syphon on October 09, 2021, 09:32:50 AM
Aren't the Border Princes basically the Old World's version of the 2nd and 11th Space Marine Legions?
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: GamesPoet on October 09, 2021, 12:10:54 PM
Nope, not even close.  Much more terrible, nasty, full of history, backstabbing, war, violence, takeovers, squabbling over land and money, women and wine.
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on October 09, 2021, 01:08:02 PM
Quite borderline, really...
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: Captain Dob Van Dwi on October 09, 2021, 04:24:36 PM
If the rules are good enough

I read that they will be grathering/curating "their favorite" rules from 1st-8th edition. So I suspect tere are ging to be a fair number "herohammer" (5th) elements. As well as a fair number of RGP elements from the earlier editions.

That said they would be fools not to dumb it down a little bit. For guys like us here on theforum that will probabley sting a bit but it's gotta be done imo. Granted it's still going to be "rank & flank". That's a barrier to most people right there as it is.

That being said, simplified 6th ed rules seem to be the way to go.

The round bases are far more for ascetic then any real rules mechanic.

If I recall correctly, it's pretty much confimed to be square bases.

Quite borderline, really...

Get out...
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Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on October 09, 2021, 04:49:13 PM
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Base or Square?

Definitely square! Warhammer: The Old World is a reinvention of the classic rank-and-file game of Warhammer Fantasy Battles. Regiments move in ranked-up units, and strategic manoeuvring into position to launch or receive a critical charge will be as much a key part of the game as it ever was.

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Bases - are you SURE they're going to be square?

Yes, we’re positive!

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Rules: Totally new or 8th Edition?

Both! We’ve played every single edition of Warhammer Fantasy Battles over the years and like every player, we have our favourite bits from each. Warhammer: The Old World will gather up all our favourite mechanics from the 3rd edition to the 8th edition** and add new elements where needed to create something deeply familiar yet fresh and new.




** The 1st and, to some extent, 2nd editions were more of a roleplaying game with miniatures than a tabletop war game, with Warhammer Fantasy Battle as we know it truly being born to the world with its 3rd edition.

Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: Captain Dob Van Dwi on October 09, 2021, 06:10:31 PM
Ah, I see Fidelis did my work for me! Thanks!
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: Gankom on October 09, 2021, 08:04:46 PM
Yup square basis indeed! My comment was more about how bases don't matter in AoS, so wont really stop them from carrying over any mechanics they happen to like. Or vice versa, test in AoS.
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: GamesPoet on October 09, 2021, 08:10:03 PM
Yep, that is how I interpreted your comment.

And I don't mind that square or round bases don't matter in W:AoS.  Just don't tell anyone I liked something about it. :icon_wink: :icon_lol:

As an aside only ... I use both round and square based figures for Lion Rampant style games.  Seems to work fine. :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on October 09, 2021, 09:17:46 PM
Ah, I see Fidelis did my work for me! Thanks!

We serve to please and please to serve. Note that the announced rules' mechanics is not really new: it has been the procedure of virtually every new edition.
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: Averlanders Cattle Guild on December 06, 2021, 10:39:45 PM
All my minis have round bases now and i am vex.  :dry:
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: brr-icy on December 08, 2021, 06:56:23 PM
Never switched to round, tried aos, decided i would rather play old rules, and stuck with 6th
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: GamesPoet on December 09, 2021, 01:10:29 AM
Never fear, GW is here!

Seriously ... I'd wait until there are more announcements before doing anything with my bases.  Besides ... sabots could work. :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: Zak on December 11, 2021, 10:46:25 PM
i really like the Empire book that "project warhammer" did. Its like 4th edition with lots of cool stuff
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: Gankom on February 18, 2022, 08:11:10 PM
I dropped more detail in the Total War thread, but to keep things centralized I thought I'd drop this bit here.


(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/4MZDRvDTQnQgkhiS.jpg)

ALSO confirmation that its going to be used for The Old World.

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Cathay has been ruled by a race of immortal shape-shifting dragons for thousands of years, and it’s not a place that changes much, so this map is just as valid for the era in which Total War: Warhammer III is set as it is during the earlier period that will be explored by Warhammer: The Old World. Rest assured, scholars of Warhammer, this map works in both settings, so get studying!
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: GamesPoet on February 19, 2022, 12:05:08 AM
Thanks!  And I looked here first, being more of a miniature gamer, and far less of a video gamer.  Far, far less. :icon_cool: :::cheers:::
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Post by: Jmash on February 19, 2022, 09:06:38 PM
I find it interesting that it's referred to as the largest realm of men in the known world, but is ruled by immortal shape-shifting dragons...

Also dragons exist in the Old World, as the typical legendary beasts, so how do these guys relate?

Could make for some cool fluff.
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Post by: KTG17 on February 23, 2022, 01:43:35 PM
Okay I do like floating islands in fantasy but it seems like too much in WFB. Its like they are sort of mixing the more grounded fantasy of WFB and the way over the top setting in Sigmar. I guess they have to make things a little different to keep things fresh.

Its quite the expansive world they are building. I was under the impression this was going to be limited to just the area of the Empire and Bretonnia with some Orcs and Elves sprinkled in.
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Post by: GamesPoet on February 23, 2022, 02:25:19 PM
Where's "floating islands" coming from?
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: KTG17 on February 23, 2022, 02:47:22 PM
(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/8eJnHg9OpJSsZJxU.jpg)
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Post by: GamesPoet on February 23, 2022, 05:39:40 PM
Yeah, like there'll be plenty of folks trying to duplicate that on their table top.  Not me.
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Post by: Jmash on February 24, 2022, 11:34:11 PM
Okay I do like floating islands in fantasy but it seems like too much in WFB. Its like they are sort of mixing the more grounded fantasy of WFB and the way over the top setting in Sigmar. I guess they have to make things a little different to keep things fresh.

I agree, first impressions of Cathay are that it's a little OTT, we've already got immortal shape-shifting dragons and floaty islands... Let's be honest if those things exist in the WFB setting then why is the rest of the world so dull by comparison!?  :-P :unsure:
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Post by: Padre on March 03, 2022, 04:56:20 PM
Right back at the start (well, not first ed, but when the OldWorld actually appeared in WFRP) there were really odd chaos images - stuff by John Blanche particularly. We just liked the images then got on with the game, in a Warhammer World (mostly) nothing like the images. We just assumed that those sorts of images were in the chaos realm, or Old Worlders' dreams.

I think these pics are a leaf from the old book!
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Post by: Victor on March 04, 2022, 02:53:02 PM
From what I have seen from Total War Warhammer III, Cathay is just as over the top as the new Kislev. The new world they are building might be set in the 'Old World', but it's the design philosophy of AoS that is being applied to old Warhammer here. I guess we won't get Warhammer Fantasy, but instead a Warhammer Fantasy˛. Too much fantasy ... too much magic ...
I absolutely do don't like that, but I guess you can ignore those things to a certain degree.
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on March 04, 2022, 05:06:08 PM
Where's "floating islands" coming from?

They are a regular feature in manga/anime or manhua. Here is one form Tales of Demons and Gods:

(https://m.manhuaplus.com/images/2022/01/08/kVJmt.jpg)
Title: Re: Rumors and what's new to be expected for The Old World ...
Post by: Jmash on March 05, 2022, 12:16:02 AM
In all honesty having reflected on my previous comments a little further, I guess we do have some very fantastical elements in the Old World like the Great Vortex or The Auric Bastion to name just a couple,  not to mention Albion which is supposedly a reflection on my home nation and is perpetually covered in fog it seems!

So I guess these new things aren't completely out of character,  maybe it's just because what we're used to is a little more sparse, not always visible and easy to forget or ignore,  whereas bigass floaty mountains are a bit more in your face?

At the end of the day these are 2 'new', unexplored realms in terms of lore so they have free reign to go in whatever direction they choose. Let's just wait and see what lies beyond the horizon for the parts of the world we do already know and love... however fearful I am of that! :-P