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Hi from a newbie and my deep dive into WFB. . .
GamesPoet:
Yep, they hang off the hip as linked plates of armor.
KTG17:
Off the hip? Like on either side?
Midaski:
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They are the last two pieces on the bottom right... any idea what these are for?
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They are called 'tassets' and were to protect the upper thighs.
It was one of the annoying things in that kit that there wasn't enough of them to upgrade all the figures.
The soldiers kit was 6th Edition and you could use them to signify a 'Light Armour' status for your soldier.
It was quite easy though to create a mould and reproduce them in numbers in greenstuff.
You can see that there is a Left and a Right one - they should almost touch at the top near where the buckle on a belt would be, and 'frame' the codpiece.
Google 'tassets' for images
--- Quote from: KTG17 on May 13, 2019, 05:20:56 PM ---
Actually while I am at it, what is the thing above them? A canteen?
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Yep - one of the first 'kit extras' that appeared, nowadays you get all sorts of accessories to individualise your men.
This was useful as an extra adornment - I have some on my 40K Imperial Guard as well.
Oh and the feathers are just for adding to some of the heads as you feel necessary - maybe to make your command group look fancier, or just to make some troopers different.
Warlord:
Regarding unit sizes, considering 6th edition had ranks of 4, consider units in regards to how many ranks they are including adding characters. Also don’t be misled - humans and orcs are not elite units, and are much closer to goblins and skaven than you would think. i think units of 10 for elves, dwarves, saurus, and chaos warriors are fine. For human soldiers not so much. Aim for a 4x4 block of 16 at a minimum, if not going up to 20. Orcs might be able to stay at the 16 size, but humans should probably go up to 20 as skaven basically have the same statline.
For empire, you would also want to consider using detachments - one of our key strengths, and you will need a unit of 20 to get one or two detachments of 10. Again, this isn’t about making a power list, but just a list that won’t automatically lose against armies with superior killing power.
KTG17:
Well, I am trying to keep it simple, cost effective, and trying to avoid going down the rabbit hole with all the army books and special rules. As I mentioned in my OP that I am hosting 99% of the time, so I am trying to fulfill the desire to do the hobby and be able to play some easy, straight forward games. Blocks of 10 and 20 might work for some and not others, I know, but many of the <expansion> sets I am buying come in blocks or those. So rather than trying to dig up extra figures here and there, I am just going to keep them as they come.
The detachment thing I am aware of as well, but that involves using the Empire Army book and and then god knows what else special rules. If I were playing against you guys then sure, I would prob need to overhaul my armies. But in this case I am just trying to field some cool armies with some variety that aren't too complicated to play. Hence Ravening Hordes.
I am making an exception for the Ogre Kingdoms tho. Since they don't appear in RH I am using their book with some minor tweaks. I'll get to those guys in oh... about two years lol.
BTW, speaking of Orcs, here is my plan for them. I need advice at the end.
Big Boss (General) - 65
+ Light Armor - 2
+ Shield - 2
+ Boar - 12
+ Bronze Axe - 50
Shaman - 65
+ Badum Staff - 50
Big Boss - 65
+ Light Armor - 2
+ Ogre Blade - 40
Black Orcs (10) - 120
+ Champion - 10
+ Standard - 10
+ Musician - 10
Boyz (10) - 50
+ Extra Choppa - 20
+ Champion - 10
+ Standard - 10
+ Musician - 10
Boyz (10) - 50
+ Spears - 20
+ Shields - 10
+ Champion - 10
+ Standard - 10
+ Musician - 10
Arrer Boyz (10) - 50
+ Bows - 40
+ Champion - 10
+ Standard - 10
+ Musician - 10
Chariot - 80
Troll - 50
Bolt Thrower - 30
Total comes to about 993.
I know the Troll should be in a unit of at least 3, but I needed to fill in some points and I got him from the 7th Starter set. Figured it wouldnt be a big deal. However, I feel like I have a lot of foot units and was wondering if I should hunt down a box of 5 Boar Boys and fit them in here. I don't know much about them, but just about all of my other armies have some kind of cavalry. I was initially just building armies to match what was in the other starter sets, which came to about 700 points, so I thought just having a single chariot would be fine, but now with 1000 points, it feels like a single chariot wouldn't have much of an impact. Not crazy about building another on of them either.
What do you guys think?
EDIT: At Warlord's suggestion I did pick up a unit of Boar Boyz, so I adjusted my army.
Removed the Troll (-50) and Bolt Thrower (-30).
The second Big Boss (65) now has a Biting Blade (10), Light Armor (2), and Shield (2).
The Orc Boys with Spears no longer have spears (-20).
And added the Boar Boyz (85)
+ Champion - 15
+ Standard - 15
+ Musician - 15
Army is now at 995 points.
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