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Galactic Conflict & Historical Games ... => Warhammer 40k Discussion => Topic started by: StealthKnightSteg on January 24, 2020, 09:25:08 AM
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Not sure if this should be here, but the other topic is marked 40k and not 30k. Showing the first reveal from the LVO
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/01/24/from-aelves-to-zoats-previews-from-lvogw-homepage-post-1fw-homepage-post-1/
Qin Xa from the White Scars.
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I like it! :icon_cool:
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So this topic https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/04/18/warhammer-preview-3-revenge-of-the-previewgw-homepage-post-1fw-homepage-post-1/
also reveals a new character fo 30K
Saul Tarvitz
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Rumors are abound that Horus Heresy 2.0 may be coming out along with some new plastic box sets. It'll still be based on 7th edition but with some rule clean up and some added new things. I know a lot of the older armies probably could use a revamp as the power creep from the newer legions have taken their toll on them.
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Interesting. So the path for Horus Heresy seems to be broadening then.
Is there a list somewhere as to how the Horus Heresy legions are typically ranked, say like lower tier, middle tier, upper tier?
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There really isn't a tier list but some legions definitely got more love in their design (all of the legion rules are in the same book), especially as the campaign books released which added onto existing rules and introduced some new legion specific units and war gear. Thousand Sons and Iron Warriors are probably the more competitive armies, but all armies are viable.
The Imperial Fist for example hit on a 2+ when shooting bolter weapons (bolt pistols, bolt guns, heavy bolters, etc) which is great because everything comes standard with a bolt weapon. Sons of Horus on the other hand can hit with shooting on a 2+ with pistols, assault guns, and rapid fire weapons if the models they're shooting at are within 12". That sounds good, however if you're within 12" of an enemy unit with your bolters, you may as well use Fury of the Legion (available to all armies, but unable to be used with this Sons of Horus rule) instead and get to shoot all your bolters twice (throwing 4 dice per bolter). A 10 man squad shooting 40 dice at 3+ as opposed to 20 dice at 2+ is going to statistically generate more hits. So its moot save for special weapons like plasma, melta or volkite weapons. So a Sons of Horus player will probably forgo that special rule and use the Fury of the Legion rule instead. Now the Imperial Fist on the other hand can hit with a 2+ with Fury of the Legion since they're special rule works all the time but the Sons of Horus doesn't work with Fury of the Legion.
That however doesn't make the Fists better than the Sons of Horus, they both just play to their strengths. Imperial Fists will more than likely have more bolt weapons, where as Sons of Horus will aim towards having more special weapons. Another Sons of Horus rule is if they outnumber their opponent in a close combat, they get an extra hit for each model that has already fought prior to the Initiative 1 step. So Sons of Horus want to get in really close, blast their guns at their opponent to thin their ranks and then charge into close combat to outnumber them and overwhelm them with attacks. Naturally that means Sons of Horus may want transports, large units, or drop pod deep strikes to do this to mitigate possible incoming fire.
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Thanks for the explanation! :icon_cool: :::cheers:::
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Maloghurst the Twisted official model has been announced! Everyone in HH used to use the SoH herald as him, but now he's getting an official model. I wonder if this is proof of that rumor about 30K 2.0 and possibly some updates to the legions.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/04/15/meet-the-true-power-behind-the-warmasters-throne/
Maloghurst was Horus' equivalent to Malcador the Sigilite. He became crippled (twisted physically to match his personality) following a shuttle crash on 63-19 that nearly killed him.
In 30K for Sons of Horus, he's almost required for a list since he offers great bonuses for the army at a cheap price and makes a couple of Elite units as compulsory troop choices.
The model looks great, and I love that he grips the standard like its a crutch since his spine is really messed up.
(https://i.redd.it/jz8ul9moubt61.jpg)
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Is he only taken available to the Sons of Horus?
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Is he only taken available to the Sons of Horus?
Yes, only for Traitor Sons of Horus, along with Horus and Abaddon. Loyalists Sons of Horus gets Loken.
(https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/catalog/product/920x950/99560102199_HorustheWarmaster01.jpg)
Horus
(https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/catalog/product/920x950/99560102149_AbaddonLoken02.jpg)
Top: Loken, Bottom: Abbadon
This was what people were using to represent Maloghurst (and many thought it was his model before this new announcement):
(https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/catalog/product/920x950/99550102167_SonsofHorusCommandSet06.jpg)
The article I linked earlier said this announcement is the first of many showcasing new 30K models, so we may see some official character models (or perhaps new characters) added to the game.
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Nice figures! And I like the painting much better than
some much of the stuff coming out of GW recently.
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Many people on reddit notice that the scale for the new model seems slightly different than previous 30K models, which is leading many to think that GW is trying to do some scale creep for the First Born marines. This may make older models seem squat compared to newer ones, but honestly, I don't mind. Not every marine was the same height, and it may be cool to depict some smaller marines as from Terra and the newer marines as being from the Primarch's recruiting planet post Primarch being found.
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GW is always finding a way to charge more. And after the City Curse debacle of the current week, it's time to make a profit elsewhere. :icon_wink:
(GP ... you are being so bad.)
Well, GW is what it is.
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Many people on reddit notice that the scale for the new model seems slightly different than previous 30K models, which is leading many to think that GW is trying to do some scale creep for the First Born marines. This may make older models seem squat compared to newer ones, but honestly, I don't mind. Not every marine was the same height, and it may be cool to depict some smaller marines as from Terra and the newer marines as being from the Primarch's recruiting planet post Primarch being found.
Honestly this is the one instance in which the scale creep doesn't bother me, quite the opposite. Marines were always described as being about 7ft tall yet most of the time they were the same height (sometimes smaller!?) than a guardsman! Certainly true of some of the metal SM minis. One of the aspects I do quite like about the Primaris guys (I know this isn't 30K) but they are actually TALL compared to their human counterparts so they fit that bill a lot more effectively, for now at least... I'll be waiting for future releases of Cadian Replacements to be the height of a Terminator! :-P
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I saw a really nice kitbash\conversion for Terminators where they used bits from Primaris to make them truescale.
https://youtu.be/M5fG5BPFXqQ (https://youtu.be/M5fG5BPFXqQ)
Honestly if it wasn't so much work I think that it would be cool to do it for a 5 man squad of termies..
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It seemed the guy was a bit self-critical of himself, but I think it looked great!
It would take a good bit of time and effort to make five of those, although could see doing it if I was really into doing it.
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Imperial Fist Praetors! Legion Praetors are 30K equivalent to 40K chapter captains. Looks like both mkIII and Tartaros terminator armors!
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/05/14/the-new-imperial-fists-praetors-are-perfect-for-butchering-iron-warriors/ (https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/05/14/the-new-imperial-fists-praetors-are-perfect-for-butchering-iron-warriors/)
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Yowza, those are great figures, and someone has done the painting very well too, thanks for posting!
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Seems like more Horus Heresy is going to plastic.
Current rumor is that plastic Sons of Horus and Imperial Fists might be released in a starter set, with characters, and perhaps even a plastic vehicle and a contemptor dreadnaught. Beaded shoulder plates and beak helmets will also be part of the figures.
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Its a spartan vehicle. The big brother of the Land Raider:
(https://preview.redd.it/rm4wq9zhnu471.jpg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2215950d468a2c05540ce2a3841b7e5cd23c0d82)
(https://preview.redd.it/qhsgou2inu471.jpg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=95bea3747e3353d7986365ed1176e6de97d98f64)
(https://preview.redd.it/59mwft4inu471.jpg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e3327558dd3ce94c27ea0d55953ba3375d6da821)
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Very much enjoying the looks of these! :icon_biggrin: :icon_cool:
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Looks very interesting indeed!
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Forge World is releasing a new Argel Tal figure.
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Maloghurst will be available for pre-order next week.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/06/27/sunday-preview-ogres-smash-up-blood-bowl-and-a-classic-black-library-tale-comes-to-audiobook/ (https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/06/27/sunday-preview-ogres-smash-up-blood-bowl-and-a-classic-black-library-tale-comes-to-audiobook/)
It makes me wonder if the other announced 30K models and the bundle will be coming out soon (at least for pre-order).
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Well we saw the Imperial Fist 30K Praetor coming out, now its time fore the Sons of Horus one!
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/07/20/surprise-the-sons-of-horus-are-getting-a-menacing-new-praetor-to-lead-them-into-battle/ (https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/07/20/surprise-the-sons-of-horus-are-getting-a-menacing-new-praetor-to-lead-them-into-battle/)
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Quite the figure there.
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The Warhawk has entered the battlefield!
Khaaaaan!
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There's been some "leaks" regarding changes to Horus Heresy rules, referred to as 2.0. From the two pages I've seen, it looks like a hybrid of 7th and 9th edition. Vehicles maintain their armor facing characteristics and hull points, while also now getting a movement range characteristic. In contrast Dreadnoughts have an armor save and wounds. They are keeping initiative and 7th edition WS and BS profiles.
Nothing much in the rumor mill other than these "leaks." HH 2.0 was always a rumor since the leaked image of the siege of terra box set months ago but its been really silent. Whereas there are leaks galore regarding the new Eldar Codex for 40k, so its up in the air on when 2.0 will actually happen any time soon. The thing with HH compared to 40K though is there isn't a separate codex for each faction, its pretty much 18 factions (the legions) in a single book and then a couple other books with other participants (custodes and sisters of silence share a book, mechanicum has their own, and solar auxilia shares one with cults and militias). So it may just take awhile re-balancing everything along with hybridization of rules, whereas 40K is a constant rules update for each faction.
(https://i.imgur.com/1BScosR.png)
(https://i.redd.it/3zr1yuwjirj81.jpg)
edit: a couple of other leaks too. Like this picture of a spartan illistrating the areas around the vehicle units can disembark.
(https://preview.redd.it/fl28zu3cjrj81.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=331e9b8fbe4aa3e92752c5dd7316603a432b5c51)
and here's another "leak" about whats changing.
(https://i.redd.it/wrqgcgnbprj81.jpg)
Edit: someone on reddit remarked that they visited the Forgeworld Store near them and all the rule books have been pulled off the shelves. SO we'll see.
:-P
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Lots more "leaks" came out today on 1D4Chan.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer30k/comments/t53h78/some_more_leaks/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer30k/comments/t53h78/some_more_leaks/)
Looks very much like a hybrid of 7th and 8th edition. I am excited. From what I can see, unit point costs have largely remained the same, which means people can keep their current lists. The rules may have changed or has been made easier (or just easier to understand) as well as incorporating 8th edition things like WS and movement values.
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It is official! Horus Heresy 2.0 was announced at Adepticon and a wonderful cinematic trailer dropped!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0Se57MuiL8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0Se57MuiL8)
Along with the cinematic trailer was the reveal of a new version of the game, non legion specific resin kits going to plastic and a praetor model and plastic mkVI kits (beakies).
(https://preview.redd.it/cs5b3ongz8p81.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=08988f92d895e452f58dc4c51aa8a52ab83ddc2a)
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Curious to learn if they are they keeping the scale at 28mm?
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Yes, but they're making them closer to true scale as opposed to heroic scale. They're a little taller than old marines but still a bit shorter than Primaris. Its the same scale as the new 40K chaos marines have been. The recent Imperial Fist and Sons of Horus praetors are also this new scale (as is the new characters Fanfir, Maloghurst, and Zephon).
(https://i.redd.it/x8qpafqmsap81.jpg)
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So more towards the 32mm sizing.
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As far as I can tell, its still 28mm, just realistic scale as opposed to heroic scale. Less squat, more rightly proportioned.
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As far as I can tell, its still 28mm, just realistic scale as opposed to heroic scale. Less squat, more rightly proportioned.
Haha exvellent, so now there's a THIRD size in the mix!? :-P
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I quite like that the leaks of the Imperial Fist fighting the Sons of Horus beakies made a bunch of youtubers and people on reddit upset that we fast forward over most of the heresy and was getting to the Siege of Terra, only for the cinematic trailer to come out and its obviously the battle of Battle of Beta-Garmon. AKA The Great Slaughter of Beta-Gammon and Titan Death!
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Battle_of_Beta-Garmon (https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Battle_of_Beta-Garmon)
Seriously, what a battle! Titans, Knights, Lrions, Mechanicum, Imperial Army. The works!
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Jesus. I thought I was done with new GW purchases until 10th edition came out. But I love the Horus Heresy. I got into 40k because of Adeptus Titanicus and Space Marine v1 and fought many many battles in the Heresy back in the day. Man I loved it. I really don't need this set, but it looks like I will have to buy it. Maybe I will resist.
Sons of Horus were black in the originally Heresy! Hate this green crap.
Glad to see the beakies are back.
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KTG and I can't even agree on the Heresy color for Sons of Horus ... I like the green. :icon_wink: :icon_lol:
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I cant help it. My first game they were shown black and my original Sons of Horus we black and have been ever since.
(https://www.belloflostsouls.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/epic-legion-Chaos2.jpg)
I don't mind the green when they were the Luna Wolves, but once they went to the Sons of Horus they are black to me.
I loved those guys! I even modeled a little Horus sticking out of the top hatch of an epic Land Raider. Man those were the days.
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I like the Green, especially when you add black and gold to the armor too, with maybe some red embellishments (top knots, cloaks etc). Black is still worn by the 1st company Justarians and Reavers (possibly the enitre 1st company). Black is also worn to denote veternacy in the current Sons of Horus too. There was also so many color changes for them that eventually it was suggested that they started green and as the Heresy dragged on and they fell further and further to chaos they became darker and black armor was fairly common. Its been retconned so many time though from black to grey to sea green to emerald and even jade. As long as you have the heraldry, I don't think anyone really cares.
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True, and fluff is fluff. :icon_cool: :::cheers:::
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I really have to fight myself from getting this. Here is what I already have going on.
I have two Adeptus Titanicus games (3 if you include the newer one that blows):
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And I have two of these:
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So when I first saw Adeptus Titanicus in a store, I had no idea what it was but that cover burned a hole in my head. It was too expensive for me and it took some years before I got it. But I always loved the cover. And its a bit of an odd one, as the red marines have the Fire Wasp symbol on them - which is a Titan Legion. So I guess back then GW maybe thought Space Marines could be assigned to Titan Legions? I don't know.
When Space Marine was released, they seemed to have sorted out the chapters more, and I never saw Fire Wasp Space Marines again. But I always loved the painting scheme for both titan armies and space marines, so I wanted to combine each to re-make the cover of the Titan Legions box, which I am in the process of doing.
But my other Space Marine set I wanted to do something different. Each army comes with 8 Land Raiders, 16 Rhinos, and 32 bases of infantry. So I decided to divide each side up into 4 different chapters: Ultramarines, Blood Angels, Dark Angels, and Space Wolves; and the Sons of Horus, World Eaters, Emperors Children, and Death Guard, only I would paint them in their original colors as shown on the box.
(https://www.belloflostsouls.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/epic-legion-Imperial2.jpg)
(https://www.belloflostsouls.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/epic-legion-Imperial3.jpg)
(https://www.belloflostsouls.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/epic-legion-Imperial1.jpg)
(https://www.belloflostsouls.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/epic-legion-Chaos2.jpg)
(https://www.belloflostsouls.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/epic-legion-Chaos3.jpg)
(https://www.belloflostsouls.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/epic-legion-Chaos1.jpg)
Yes, I plan on painting the right arm red on all the Death Guard.
Anyway, the detachment sizes work perfectly dividing everyone up (like Land Raiders come in groups of 2) and I even added some assault and devastator units. So when done I will be able to fight proper Horus Heresy battles as they were originally intended - in Epic scale. I really think its going to look cool.
I even have parts set aside for a 6mm Emperor and Horus lol.
I just love the retro stuff.
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I like how all those rhinos and land raiders look! :icon_biggrin: :icon_cool:
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OMG! Look how easy it was to suck me in! I don’t need more games! I just emptied out my closet to focus on certain games! Can’t believe it was almost that easy for me to get this set when it comes out. I have RTB01 marines to build! I don’t need more!!!
Man… it is plastic crack.
Such a shame I have too much, because this not only looks like a great set, but the focus GW seems to be giving the heresy looks like a lot of fun. I will be jealous of those getting into it. :closed-eyes:
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Welcome to the dark side. :icon_wink:
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A Horus Heresy trailer ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0Se57MuiL8
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Uh, yeah I already posted that GP. :icon_lol:
http://warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=53851.msg1083748#msg1083748 (http://warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=53851.msg1083748#msg1083748)
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:icon_lol: :::cheers:::
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Diemos pattern Rhino being released for Horus Heresy ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJejG2uPu4w
And a Kratos Heavy Assault Tank ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGDlut2lY04
And heavy weapons will be available for infantry units ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0X1W5p_LaE
The heavy weapons and special weapons sold in boxes of 30, and there are at least three maybe four different boxes of these coming.
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Starter box set will have 40 tactical marines, 10 terminators, a Spartan assault vehicle, and a Contemptor dreadnaught ... none of which is surprising from all the pre-launch stuff coming out on this set for months. However, I'm not complaining.
There is also a full rule book, and apparently shows lots of stuff that shows more product will be coming along eventually.
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What the hell, special and heavy weapons sold separately?????
Who wants a box of 60 special weapons???
I assume we'll see a lot of bitz on eBay.
I did notice that with all the marines in the starter, I didn't see a lot that could deal with either the dreadnought or tank, aside from a plasma pistol here and there.
There doesn't seem to be any special guide for getting started either, so no scenarios. So it looks like this is just a box full of figures. I can't stand that. Its so lazy.
Also see that in order to play the champions from Prospero, you have to buy the corresponding tome. The rulebook in the starter looks huge, why not put some info on these models in there?!? God I hate what this hobby has become.
This is a hard pass now. Easy hard pass.
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I did a double take too. Whatever happened to the days when the weapons were sold on the same sprues that the figures were sold on?
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I guess its their formula to sell more crap. Honestly, if they included less models and added enough special and heavy weapons then I would say this looks like a nice set. But after dropping $300 on the starter, then you have to go out and buy a bunch of weapons to make the armies included in the set playable?
Total cash grab.
Its amazing how many products GW puts out that I have no interest in buying. It wasn't always that way.
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I hadn't seen the price tag yet. Is it really $300? Yowza.
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Thats what I heard in a youtube vid.
BTW I was just taking a look at this:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/mouvfePNquxVdprP.pdf
And as mentioned, the lists look just like... 7th edition. Makes sense since the set includes templates. I thought those rules were unpopular. Why would they go backwards rather than more like what they are doing with 9th?
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If I recall, it's been using 7th edition similar rules for awhile, although I might be mistaken.
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I watched a couple of vids on YouTube going through the rulebook and another of a game.
I looks like 40K is borrowing Infinity concepts with the reaction thing, which is fine.
The main rulebook doesn’t even cover units of any kind. Stats and points are provided in the getting started section of the instruction book. I figured this was coming but still weak when I see it.
So this means a codex each for each legion? Or at least 2 cover the loyal and traitors?
The getting started just covers what’s in the box, so no points or anything if you want to add a meltagun or missile launcher to your tactical squad.
So watching the demo game, which was well done as far as having everything painted with lots of nice scenery, turned into a mob fight in the middle of the board. Just stupid. And I know all 40K games can be different but I just see too much of this. What is the point of a 6x4 table loaded with nice terrain if everything is just going to end up in the center? Maybe it was the scenario they were playing I don’t remember the details. I just remember it being really unsatisfying to watch. Also, the models are near Primaris in size, so bigger figures taking up more space on the board.
Also, I didn’t see the tactical squads being split up into combat squads. Maybe they’ll have rules for that, I don’t know. Maybe the nature of the Heresy will just involve these hordes of units.
I just don’t like this starter set. I know of comes with a lot of figures but it seems limited with what you can do with them unless you buy a whole bunch of other stuff. Even the marines don’t have many options against the tank and Dreadnought unless someone runs up and punches it with a powerfist. Great.
I think the Heresy can be something interesting a dedicated gaming group can dive into, but I am not sure this going to be a rewarding experience for the casual gamer. There just seems too much to buy. And maybe that is the point of this game too.
Times are changing, and GW with it, and I am becoming more and more disinterested with their newer products than ever before. Me changing could def be a reason too, but GW isn’t pulling me back either. If anything it’s just pushing me away.
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Any idea what those floating flower like things are? I thought they might be drop pods on their side but I dont think that is the case.
(https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/KBWHShVgfOBW6zs0.jpg)
Group shot of the models towards the bottom if you dont see the image.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/06/02/legions-of-the-horus-heresy-the-alpha-legion-are-on-your-side-or-are-they/
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Hmmm ... maybe my Horus Heresy figures will be Alpha Legion ... hmmm.
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Just got a coupon from an eBay seller for the new Horus Heresy set for $250, and if I were excited about this set I would buy two for that price, but so much about this game annoys me.
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I like the figures. Was hoping for another $200 price tag. Guess not.
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Watched this video of Horus Heresy game play ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdZ4zc8OQuE
... seems relatively easy to play, at least at this level for numbers of figures.
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questions
1- thats a whole crap ton of models
2- are the models the same size as the primarus models
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My understanding is they are somewhere in between the previous heroic 28mm and the new Primaris dudes.
Haven't had that confirmed yet.
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I'll pass for now. I already made a Saul Tarvitz for my 30k E.C'S
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My understanding is they are somewhere in between the previous heroic 28mm and the new Primaris dudes.
Haven't had that confirmed yet.
I hope they are closer to the primarus..that size just looks the way i would imagine compaired to the average human
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I found this that looks to be a handy scale comparison. They're shorter then Primaris, but not by much, and maybe slightly bigger then current space marines.
(https://taleofpainters.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/Horus_Heresy_Mk_VI_Space_Marines_Scale_Comparison.jpg)
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:::cheers::: :::cheers::: :::cheers:::
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Heard the Horus Heresy rule book is over 300 pages long. Yowza. :icon_eek:
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wow, if you like the beaky helms they are cheap on Ebay
I just bought 3, 10 man squad and 1 hero for $99.00
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Metal or plastic?
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So it looks like Space Marines are in squads of 10 and the future human whatever troops are going to be in squads of 20?!?!
What the hell.
So squads of 20 28mm guys running around on what is usually a 4x4 table. So stupid.
Maybe there will be options for smaller squads, but considering how the special and heavy weapons are being sold I doubt it.
What a crock of shit.
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Use 4 x 6. :icon_wink:
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A new siege tank for Horus Heresy ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbLf4vu-Vtk
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Horus Heresy Upgrade packs for 12 more Contemptor dreadnaughts have been relesead ...
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/03/16/heresy-thursday-fly-your-legion-colours-with-12-more-contemptor-dreadnought-upgrade-packs/
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First Horus Heresy campaign book ...
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/03/23/decide-the-fate-of-cthonia-with-the-first-horus-heresy-campaign-book/
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New starter box set for Solar Auxlia ... the so-called Imperial Guard of the Horus Heresy era.