Topic: A moment of silence for the carriageless horse..

[Baron von Klatz]

I believe we should pay our respects to that less than respected member of the Empire, the robo-horse.

Gone in AoS, 9th and KoW(and not holding my breath for TW:W).  He only remains in our hearts and memories.

May he ride into the great beyond and be as free and fully oiled as he was out of place and unnecessary in the muddy battlefields of the Old World. 

[Darknight]

I shall keep the flame burning, with the fine mechanical horses made by Copper Mine Miniatures.

Robohorses never die, they just get rebooted.

[Gankom]

We can remake them. We have the technology. We can build it better, stronger, faster...

[CarolineWellwater]

 *Sha-sha-sha-sha-sha-sha-sha*

-- Cue Slow Motion Scene of Mechanical Horse Kicking Open Barn Doors --

In its best mecho-robo-computer-synth speech, "Neeeeeeigh!  I have been born  a-foal!  Now, I have the Horse-power of two, strong, horses!  I'll be chomping at the bit to be unleashed against the enemies of the Empire.  I just hope I won't have to jockey into position to kick something in the head!"

(( Sorry Gankom,

I couldn't resist the allure of the 6-Million Dollar man... not to mention the certain... panache of the pun.  Not that I'm very good with puns.

Anyway, I kinda liked the idea of a clockwork steed.  It's just a shame the rules for it were... meh at best.  Though, I did catch a couple people unawares with the fact that, even at 1" of movement (if it suffers from the wind-down effect), the horse still charges 3K2 + 1". ))

[The Peacemaker]

It was a cool model. Its rules should have never existed.

Should have been just an aesthetic option to do a steampunk army.

[jtrowell]

The model could indeed make a very fine mounted hero in a Kings of War human army.

I could see him used as simply a wizard on horse, with the fireball or lightning bolt spell representing the experimental weapon of the engineer.

Or if you want it to also have some decent fighting power in melee, it might be used as a mounted fighting hero with some appropriate artefact to represent the weapon, like the diadem of dragon kind (breath attack), the boomstick (lightning bolt) or maybe the holy grenades (short ranged war engine like attack, if you think of the weapon as a kind of grenade launcher it is perfect)

[The Real Rick Salamone]

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[Fidelis von Sigmaringen]

The rules were meh but not terrible. The model of the robohorse itself was meh but not terrible. However, the combined model of Engineer and horse was competing with the old Nagash model for worst model ever made by GW.

[Warlord]

The rider looked good.
The horse looked good (if it was 40k).
The rules were not great.

When it was first talked about, i was hoping to see bronze gears, skinny legs and the like. What we got looked a bit like the terminator.

[Gankom]

Horsinator sounds like a great band.

[Orwin]

Why hasn't the steam horse been featured in T9A?

[Bartolo Miachevelia]

I always hated that model, i always thought it was a silly and one of those things that contributed to the decline of Warhammer BG & atmosphere.

[GamesPoet]

I've continued to resist buying one, although not sure for how much longer.

[Orwin]

I really don't get the problem with that horse.

[Fidelis von Sigmaringen]

To quote a reaction at the time:

pooh model. Pooh rules. pooh idea. pooh pooh pooh

I would not go that far, but the model lacks verisimilitude. Even within the setting of WFB, it could not possibly work like that, and as Warlord observed, it has a more of a 40K look (just like the WPs). And the Engineer simply looks awful.

[scrubber]

He's still on e-bay at approx. £30 mark. However found something as go, Victorian London bobbies on steam driven penny farthing. I feel a conversion for the master engineer.

[Fidelis von Sigmaringen]

The amount some are willing to spend on bad taste never ceases to amaze me...

[GamesPoet]

That figure can be obtained for less than 30 pounds.

[Baron von Klatz]

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Haha, I guess that's true but I was pointing out games that were moving forward. I mean, even AoS has his legacy scroll but he's not in the new human factions so he doesn't count.

Horsinator sounds like a great band.

Yes, yes it does.

Why hasn't the steam horse been featured in T9A?

The general consensus was that nobody wanted it. Which was kind of a shame but understandable.

My only two problems with robo-horse was that he didn't look like a clockwork/steamwork horse and that he sent a poor old codger, who should be babysitting the artillery, careening into the hellforged steel jaws of death.

[Fidelis von Sigmaringen]

If it had counted as Monstrous Beast, it might have been worth taking.

[ZeroTwentythree]

Never cared for the model, never saw any reason for using one on the table. He just seemed out of place in both respects.

[Oxycutor]

It looks a bit our of place in WFB. I thought it was ok as a characterful piece.  Needed to be more clockwork than Robo.   But works more as a bizarre story piece in a WFRP game, than for WFB.  And it's rules were really rather poor for it's points.  You couldn't put it in a unit because of the random move, and having characters out in the open in WFB Is a sure way to get a hail of arrows their way.

I feel seeing it painted up made of wood rather than metal makes it look slightly less Horsinator.

[Ursa Doom]

I always hated that model, i always thought it was a silly and one of those things that contributed to the decline of Warhammer BG & atmosphere.

My exact feelings.

[Orwin]

I took the time to check both the 7th and 8th edition armybooks rules for the mechanical steed and could realize how inconstant and careless GW can be: in the 7th edition, the description of the horse tells of a mechanical horse that has some kind of electrical chargers on its head that release lightining bolts when the model charges. It also talks about the fact that it was built by a woman.

OK, cool.

In the 8th edition rules, the army book states that the steed is more like a clockwork horse that needs to be wound up and can eventually lose speed during the game, having the Impact Wounds ability. There's no mention to the damage caused by electricity whatsoever, although Impact Wounds has a similar effect to the electrical orbs special rule.

See? This lack of consistency by GW was always unnerving.

[Orwin]

In that case, if it's really demeaning to the Empire's atmosphere, i think that the clockwork cherubs also fit in that category, no?

I recall a cherub that is depicted as flying on its own and carrying an Empire ribbon.