Topic: 2350 Empire Army list for MasterClass Tournament

[-SaH-]

First, Hello to All, my first post on this forum  But I'm reading it for long time.
Sorry form my English too, don't us it for some time 

So, my Army:

General of the Empire @ 206 Pts
     General; Full Plate Armor; Shield; Warhorse; Barding
     Holy Relic [45]; Van Horstman's Speculum [30]; Sword of Might [15]

Captain @ 142 Pts
     Full Plate Armor; Battle Standard; Warhorse;  Barding
     Icon of Magnus [25]; Sigil of Sigmar [15]; Biting Blade [5]

Battle Wizard @ 150 Pts
     Magic Level 2
     Dispel Scroll [25]; Dispel Scroll [25]

Battle Wizard @ 150 Pts
     Magic Level 2
     Rod of Power [30]; Power Stone [20]

24 Halberdiers @ 194 Pts
     Halberd; Light Armour; Shield; Standard; Musician; Sergeant
     Banner of Valour
     9 Detachment - Swordsmen @ [54] Pts
          Light Armour; Shield
     6 Detachment - Handgunners @ [48] Pts
          Empire Handgun

24 Spearmen @ 164 Pts
     Spear; Light Armour; Shield; Musician; Sergeant
     6 Detachment - Crossbowmen @ [48] Pts
          Crossbow
     9 Detachment - Swordsmen @ [54] Pts
          Light Armour; Shield

20 Free Company @ 112 Pts
     2ndWeapon; Musician; Sergeant

10 Crossbowmen @ 85 Pts
     Crossbow; Musician
     5 Detachment - Archer @ [40] Pts
          Normal Bow

5 Knightly Orders @ 123 Pts
     Barding; Lance; Full Plate Armor; Shield; Musician; Warhorse

5 Knightly Orders @ 123 Pts
     Barding; Lance; Full Plate Armor; Shield; Musician; Warhorse

5 Pistoliers @ 97 Pts
     Brace of Pistols; Light Armour; Musician; Warhorse

3 Ironguts @ 199 Pts
     Great Weapon; Ogre Club; Heavy Armour; Standard;
     Musician
     War Banner [25]

Helblaster Volley Gun @ 110 Pts
Great Cannon @ 100 Pts
Mortar @ 75 Pts
Mortar @ 75 Pts

Casting Pool: 6 Dispel Pool: 4 Models in Army: 155 Total Army Cost: 2349

This is my idea for army, that evolved in me for some time. I don't want us 2 Steam Tank and other "typical" Empire units. But my army still needs some hitting power, and something that will stop other Steam Tanks, Hydras and so on.
So, what You think? 3 or 4 Ironguts? Three Iron are more manoeuvrable unit than four. For them I put a 21 Free Companies as like Gnoblars for Ogre Tyrant.
I want also have some magic weapon for my Heroes. They are not very powerfull, but they are for supporting, not figthing...
And have a Helblaster - any big monster think twice before he move too close

[Folken]

First off, welcome to the Forum! Have one on Midaski's tab. 
Ok, lets start with characters:
Your general is likely only to be able to use that pistol for stand and shoot reactions so I do not think it would be worth the points for him.    Otherwise, I like your character choices and think they will do well

Onto the army:
I am not sure the purpose of look-out gnoblars in the ogre unit as there is no unit champion so there is nothing to need a look-out-sir.
The archer detachment for the crossbowmen could be useful, I have no experience with them.
Otherwise, nothing I see overall.  I personally would definitely field this list as it stands.

[-SaH-]

Hmmm... Thanks for replay - also my first here 

You have right about L-O Gnoblar. Pistol is sometimes helpfull, but when i put them aside, I'll save 14pts.
And this is good start to bring MagicStandard for one of my infantry unit...
I reduce units by one man (Hal.;Sper;FreeC) and my Halberdiers will march to battle with Banner of Valour:)

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[Fandir Nightshade]

I would switch the missle detachments of your infantry blocks to archers. If you haven´t read marcus octavius detachment tactica I advise it to you, I am greatly fond of those archer screens. I also would try to swap a mortar for another great cannon with infantry you can deal, with big nasties you can´t.

[Folken]

Archers are fun but its also handy to be able to shoot things down for flank protection.   Plus they can charge, flank and remove ranks in a pinch.

[Fandir Nightshade]

do you ever have the space to nicely fan out your 2 blocks with both detachments and not hindering either your shooting or your knights?

[-SaH-]

Thanks for replays.

Yes, Archers are nice, but in last games i have not enough shooting from troops, so thats why I put these detachments.

Cannon for Mortar - I want to check out how Mortars with S6 d3 no armour save on hit will do with monsters and so on.

After the tournament (16-17 April, 5 battles) I'll put report

[-SaH-]

So, I'm after the Tournament, rank 44 from 54 players.

Army like this is very nice to play and wins give me a lot of satisfaction. My enemies was:
Brettonia 2-18 (General fail break test at Ld8 in last turn 600pts lost)
Brettonia 0-20 (3units + Lord on Pegasus, masacre )
Orcs & Goblins 12-8 (must finish after 3turns, end of my time:( )
Warriors of Chaos 0-20 (very unlucky, shot from cannon on dragon and 1to wound, failed fear test for charge Nurgle Knights)
Orcs & Goblins 18-2 (Helblaster kills 10Savage Boar Boys and explode:P )

What can I say...
State Troops in every battle do they job. As allways.
5xKnights with music are fantastic, but I must remember, that there are only 5 of them
Mortars do great job against orcs and goblins. For others armies they have a few less shots opportunities, but i like them. And you must have two if you want take off others machines.
Helblaster is still working, it just must wait for the right moment
Iron Guts are very good support unit, "only" and "so much" at a time.

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