Topic: [3000] 'Ard Boyz List

[OldHat]

SO! I am new here. Trying to get into Fantasy and exploring a few armies, Empire being the foremost in that right now. What I am hoping for is a bit of advice to make myself a hard, nasty list for 'Ard Boyz this year. So, with my limited knowledge of the game, I have cobbled together a list that might be good, but I am hoping to hear how it isn't and can be improved!

Lord:
General of the Empire
Griffon, Armor of Destiny, Shield, Sword of Sigismund
[373]

Arch Lector of Sigmar
Enchanted Shield, Van Horstmann's Speculum, Sword of Might
War Altar
[275]

Hero:
Captain of the Empire
Battle Standard Bearer, Armor of Meteoric Iron, Hammer of Judgement
[125]

Battle Wizard
Level 2, Lore of Light, Rod of Power
[130]

Battle Wizard
Level 2, Lore of Heavens, Dispel Scroll
[125]

Warrior Priest
Shield, Armor of Fortune, Biting Blade
[137]

Core:
(38) Spearmen
Full Command
[210]

(19) Halberdier Detachment
[95]

(10) Handgunners Detachment
[80]

(38) Spearmen
Full Command
[210]

(19) Halberdier Detachment
[95]

(10) Halberdier Detachment (Greatswords)
[50]

(10) Halberdier Detachment (Greatswords)
[50]

Special:
Great Cannon
[100]

Great Cannon
[100]

Mortar
[75]

Mortar
[75]

(20) Greatswords
Full Command
[230]

Rare:
Steam Tank
[300]

Steam Tank
[300]

[2998]

REVISED!

Any thoughts? Ideas? Anything would be appreciated!

[Fandir Nightshade]

You don´t need the General on Griffon, it would be better to field a mage lord level 4 and get some lore with buffs spells for your large infantry bodies....something like +1 S +1 T comes to mind.

Other than that I would suggest two cannons and two mortars....you can get rid of infantry with your greatswords and spears but in the army you field right now you have nothing against big nasties.

[OldHat]

The main reason for the Griffon was to be a mobile Ld bubble and counter-assault unit. He can be where I need him quickly. Not to mention, the model is reasonably awesome.

I could cut one of the Rockets to bump a pair of Mortars to GCs. Does that seem suitable? Any other changes/ideas that would strengthen this list?

[OldHat]

Lord:
Arch Lector of Sigmar
Enchanted Shield, Van Horstmann's Speculum, Sword of Sigismund, War Altar
[310]

Wizard Lord
Level 4, Rod of Power, Dispel Scroll, Holy Relic
Lore Light or Heaven
[310]

Hero:
Captain of the Empire
Battle Standard Bearer, Armor of Meteoric Iron, Sword of Might
[115]

Warrior Priest of Sigmar
Heavy Armor, Shield, Biting Blade, White Cloak
[136]

Core:
(30) Halberdiers
Full Command
[170]

(15) Swordsmen Detachment
[90]

(30) Halberdiers
Full Command
[170]

(15) Swordsmen Detachment
[90]

(30) Halberdiers
Full Command
[170]

(15) Swordsmen Detachment
[90]

(10) Knights
Lances, Shields, Standard Bearer
[246]

Special:
(20) Greatswords
Musician, Standard Bearer
[218]

Mortar
[75]

Mortar
[75]

Mortar
[75]

Cannon
[100]

Cannon
[100]

Rare:
Helstorm Rocket Battery
[115]

Helstorm Rocket Battery
[115]

Helstorm Rocket Battery
[115]

Helstorm Rocket Battery
[115]

[3000]

[Fandir Nightshade]

IF you want to go ard...as in ardboyz you need two engineers in that list to make the hellstorms even more lethal. (FAQ lets him re roll the artillery or deviation dice....two helstorms are enough four is just overkill, also two mortars are enough)
I would use the saved points for handgunner detachments on your halberdier units.

[polybus11]

Sword of Sigi should prolly just be a great weapon, rod and d.scroll is illegal since you can't take more than one arcane item anymore even if scroll.  I think I'm in love with at least one captasus to deal with flyers/fast cav/scouts that threaten your war machines.

[Romel44]

Personally, I don't really see the need to take mortars if your taking the rocket batteries. Though I do like the mortars a lot, I prefer the HSRB due to the higher strength and the bigger template. 2x Great Cannons and 2x HSRB should be enough in my opinion, leaving u enough points for some handgunner/Crossbow detachments for your Parent Units.

[commandant]

I would loose two of the rockets and one of the mortars and get yourself an engineer and bulk up your parent blocks

[OldHat]

Yea, I am going to be rethinking this now that I saw the FAQ. Going to possibly throw an Engineer in, just to catch Misfires.

Also, leaning back towards a pair of STanks, honestly. They just draw off so much firepower! I will tinker some more. I think I might go for a solid center of 30 Greatswords, instead of 20. Not sure on that either.

Anyhow, with Inaccurate, I am not sure how jazzed I am with the Helstorm. Again, leaning back towards STanks.

What are some thoughts on going for a pair of Level 2 Battle Wizards over the singleton Level 4? I had that set-up originally and I think I might go back for it, giving me both Light and Heavens to work with.

[darkman889]

My personal preference is to bring at least one tank.  And yes, it draws a LOT of fire but with the T10 even cannons will have a hard time to punching holes in it.  Bring a tank.

[OldHat]

My personal preference is to bring at least one tank.  And yes, it draws a LOT of fire but with the T10 even cannons will have a hard time to punching holes in it.  Bring a tank.

....how about two? 

Lord:
Arch Lector of Sigmar
Enchanted Shield, Sword of Might, Van Horstmann's SpeculumWar Altar
[290]

Hero:
Captain of the Empire
Battle Standard Bearer, Biting Blade, Armor of Meteoric Iron
[105]

Battle Wizard
Level 2, Lore of Light, Rod of Power
[130]

Battle Wizard
Level 2, Lore of Heavens, Dispel Scroll
[125]

Core:
(30) Halberdiers
Full Command
[170]

(15) Swordsmen Detachment
[90]

(30) Halberdiers
Full Command
[170]

(15) Swordsmen Detachment
[90]

(30) Halberdiers
Full Command
[170]

(15) Swordsmen Detachment
[90]

(10) Handgunner Detachment (Greatswords)
[80]

(10) Knights
Lances, Shields, Standard Bearer
[246]

Special:
Mortar
[75]

Mortar
[75]

Mortar
[75]

Cannon
[100]

Cannon
[100]

(20) Greatswords
Musician, Standard Bearer
[218]

Rare:
Steam Tank
[300]

Steam Tank
[300]

[2999]

I think that does it for me. Has everything in it that I want!

[commandant]

personally I would loose a tank and use the points to bulk out your parent units.   ten more greatswords and twenty in each of the halberd units.   your infantry is going to die.   don't try and stop it just ensure there are loads of them to do the dying