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Title: WFB Long Term Plans
Post by: Michael Stockin on April 18, 2021, 01:29:26 PM
So. I am currently playing WFB 3rd edition in 10mm due to space constraints. However in maybe 7 years or so we hope to move to a place that will allow a permanent 64 table set up.

This will mean 25/28mm WFB!!

I am not fussed about official GW models due to the cost, but I do want to maintain the old 3rd edition style. My question then is what models can I buy now and stockpile that have that old 80s 90s GW vibe.

I am not 100% sure what armies yet, but probably from Empire, Orcs and Dwarves.
Title: Re: WFB Long Term Plans
Post by: Zygmund on April 19, 2021, 09:25:29 PM
For oldschool feel, especially dwarfs, these come to my mind:

http://whiteknightminiatureimperium.blogspot.com/ (http://whiteknightminiatureimperium.blogspot.com/)

https://eoeorbisuk.com/collections/fantasy/range_dwarves (https://eoeorbisuk.com/collections/fantasy/range_dwarves)


Ral Partha has a couple of different Dwarf lines, some oldschool Orcs, and probably some Humans too:
http://www.ralparthaeurope.co.uk/shop/ (http://www.ralparthaeurope.co.uk/shop/)

Check the Fantasy Warband section and the Ral Partha Fantasy section. DSA/Dark Eye might have something too.

Midlam Miniatures has a strong oldschool vibe, although it doesn't always fit the Citadel style:
https://www.midlamminiatures.co.uk/ (https://www.midlamminiatures.co.uk/)

Then Kev Adams has sculpted massive numbers of greenskins, mostly goblins, for various companies. Maybe just google him by name?

I think the human/Fighter/DoW kind of models could be actually the hardest to find. Because, quite honestly, many 80's models were clumsy, and few companies willingly reproduce the clumsiness. Maybe just go for historical landsknecht or gothic look? Foundry is probably your best call, since they have a vast sortiment of metal minis sculpted by the Perry brothers: https://www.wargamesfoundry.com/collections/early-16th-century-renaissance (https://www.wargamesfoundry.com/collections/early-16th-century-renaissance)

Foundry also has a sister company, Warmonger miniatures that produces explicitly fantasy minis, for different races:
https://www.warmongerminiatures.com/pages/about-us (https://www.warmongerminiatures.com/pages/about-us)

They have also redone some OOP Citadel minis: https://www.wargamesfoundry.com/collections/ex-citadel-games-workshop-fantasy-sci-fi (https://www.wargamesfoundry.com/collections/ex-citadel-games-workshop-fantasy-sci-fi)

Actually, if you want consistency and want to deal with ex-Citadel people and some ex-Citadel sculpts, Foundry probably is your best choice.

-Z
Title: Re: WFB Long Term Plans
Post by: Warlord on April 22, 2021, 02:58:52 PM
023s blog was a great source of alternative model sources. One I recall was BlackTree who made good Dwarves?
The Priestly brothers plastics sets for War of the Roses were very popular I believe too.
I also quite like a lot of the Deus Vult models too.
Title: Re: WFB Long Term Plans
Post by: brr-icy on May 25, 2021, 08:27:38 AM
One thing i have found is that some places will do an army deal for used models. I don't think i've paid over $400 CAD for a 4,000 point starter army yet, and I have them all, with official models. I don't get the obsession with NOS for this hobby. A couple of the armies i got are beautifully done as well. No need for painting, just match with the extra models i grabbed
Title: Re: WFB Long Term Plans
Post by: GamesPoet on May 25, 2021, 09:52:19 AM
NOS means?
Title: Re: WFB Long Term Plans
Post by: Heinrich von Kampfmann on May 25, 2021, 10:31:07 AM
NOS means?

New
On
Sprue
Title: Re: WFB Long Term Plans
Post by: GamesPoet on May 25, 2021, 10:43:30 AM
I see.
Title: Re: WFB Long Term Plans
Post by: Warlord on May 25, 2021, 01:33:56 PM
Some people like to assemble them the way they want, and if already made, then they are stuck with it that way, or potentially damage the models to repair. Sometimes terrible paintjobs hide assembly issues too.

Not saying I prefer NOS - it depends what I am buying and how much converting I am going to perform anyway or what bits I might want from a sprue as well as the model
Title: Re: WFB Long Term Plans
Post by: brr-icy on May 26, 2021, 04:28:08 AM
I get that, but there's something to be said for getting an army for $100 compared to half a unit lol. when I got my empire army starter i kept half the models: 25 knights, old metal griffon, 5 winged lancers, 32 handgunners, a warrior priest, 25 halberdiers, 20 swordsmen, helblaster, 2 cannons, a mortar, and a big carrying case for $250 cad. I sold the other half of the models (stupidly) for 125. Should have kept everything haha.

My ogre army was 250. including three forgeworld rhinoxen.

dwarfs were 400, sold off stuff i didn't need for 300. ended up with 17,000 points of mostly metal minis, including almost enough for a 3k soc slayers list.

I buy NOS for a few armies because i found them cheap. but I don't value NOS more than money lol


Title: Re: WFB Long Term Plans
Post by: GamesPoet on May 26, 2021, 09:38:51 AM
Just realized NOS could also mean Not Off Sprue. :icon_wink: :icon_lol:
Title: Re: WFB Long Term Plans
Post by: Heinrich von Kampfmann on May 26, 2021, 12:09:31 PM
Just realized NOS could also mean Not Off Sprue. :icon_wink: :icon_lol:

True!  :::cheers:::

About this thread, for me, as long as it's not broken or utterly destroyed with paint, I don't mind second hand minis. I find trading stuff satisfying, and the price is much lower. For exempel I traded 1 archaon on foot and some random bitz for over 100 6th edition dark elf warriors. Waaay more than I'll likely need. Just had to remove moldlines, base them and then prime. Then sold some other oop metal I'll never used and bought hydras, bolt throwers, blackguards, executioners etc.

Buying 5 boxes of new coreeleves would retail about 1350 sek and Archaon goes for about 600 sek on Ebay/tradera etc.
Sold some oop empire metals for 750kr. Used that cash, added a few golden coins of my own, and got 2 metal hydras, 40 black guards, reaper bolt throwers and executioners. Now that's a lot cheaper compared to new models in box.
Also, the best deal. A dark elf dragon with rider, 30 corsairs, more warriors and cool bits for 400sek. Sold the corsairs for 400sek to another guy = free dragon!

Would be hard to justify spending over 3000sek now as a parent on minis, but trading/selling magic cards or other warhammer stuff feels great. Happier wife too ^^ Just a bit more work to get those deals. But soo satisfying!  :icon_wink:
Title: Re: WFB Long Term Plans
Post by: brr-icy on May 27, 2021, 05:27:57 AM
^ very nice.