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Title: Why does he take that with him?
Post by: Michael Stockin on October 13, 2021, 09:18:21 AM
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Title: Re: Why does he take that with him?
Post by: Jmash on October 13, 2021, 10:24:00 AM
My stuff is all on plain, flat bases and will be pretty generic when done - the typical gravelly grit with some static grass kinda fare. The only deviation from this is one unit of my Huntsmen that I have themed very much as scouts/rangers, in my head they operate very much in the montane wildernesses so I got some scenic resin bases that are woodland/forest themed and a set of slate/rocky themed ones too, and I've mixed and matched them across the unit. Even the scenic ones though I've opted for the more 'realistic' end of the spectrum and where possible I haven't used many that involve people standing on top of logs etc.

I get where you're coming from though, I've seen loads of Space Marines etc. stood atop massive chunks of cork before and I just think 'why?'...

The ones I find funniest is when the base seems to be an entire cross section of the ground beneath the model, with sewer pipes and everything else - unless it's a diorama where the sewers (and what lurks within) are an integral part of it, I just don't see the point. Does your army not look ridiculous when they're all mounted twice the height of your opponents' and how the hell do you get enough room to store them!?
Title: Re: Why does he take that with him?
Post by: Jmash on October 13, 2021, 10:29:37 AM
Ooh! Skeletons, skulls and bones are another one too!

Like, as soon as you kill an enemy they become bones on the floor!? :-P

Would it be too dark to have heads and bodyparts instead?...  :unsure:
Title: Re: Why does he take that with him?
Post by: Zygmund on October 13, 2021, 08:52:48 PM
I base my models with sand, grass and rocks. Sometimes with bits of wood or flowers. Rarely some barely visible crumbled structure. With my sci-fi models I go in the direction of blasted semi-urban landscape, with stuff that can randomly fly around in explosions.

I try to keep my models quite close to the ground. But a couple of heroes I've put on a low mound or even a rocky outcrop. It's a mixed plate: they look really nice most of the time, but sometimes they will of course completely fail thematically. The example of a rocky rise in the middle of a bridge is a good example. Then again my models mostly stand on the shelf, so their function is perhaps more display than looking good on a gaming table.

Problem with purist basing is that the base will look weird sooner or later, unless you always play on a surface that matches your army's basing. Some use transparent, clear bases so that whatever is underneath the model shows through. That's probably the best solution if you cannot stand the sight of a situationally non-fitting base.

-Z
Title: Re: Why does he take that with him?
Post by: Michael Stockin on October 15, 2021, 09:03:50 AM
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Title: Re: Why does he take that with him?
Post by: Zygmund on October 15, 2021, 09:23:02 AM
"dynamic" and "heroic" posing is the new black. Hollywood, superheroes and modern comics are likely to blame. Then again that look speaks to the new audiences, and models are sold for new audiences, so...

And those models DO come with ready basing components, so people don't have to think about basing so much. Just add paint & grass, and done.

Plenty of old, alternative and historical models there if you want the feet on the ground. :)

-Z
Title: Re: Why does he take that with him?
Post by: GamesPoet on October 15, 2021, 11:44:10 AM
Those examples seem like GW basing.  If I was going to use those figures, and didn't like the basing, time to modify the base.  It wouldn't be too tough to get them down onto the ground.  With the models as they are, folks who like those fantastic poses can get what they want too.

(GP ... you're sounding like a GW defender.)

Nope, we all know that isn't the case.  But I haven't forgotten what my dad taught me about converting.
Title: Re: Why does he take that with him?
Post by: Rowsdower on October 15, 2021, 12:12:19 PM
Now i'm imagining the nobels of all the races, employing minions to carry around the 'stands'
Title: Re: Why does he take that with him?
Post by: GamesPoet on October 15, 2021, 12:29:46 PM
 :icon_lol: :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Why does he take that with him?
Post by: Rowsdower on October 16, 2021, 01:09:48 AM
King: Peasant, you've been promoted from groom of the stool to groom of the rubble mound. Your sacred duty will be to carry it around for me and dust it off, prior to me standing on it and looking heroic
Peasant: An honour, my leige
Title: Re: Why does he take that with him?
Post by: GamesPoet on October 16, 2021, 04:30:08 AM
And ... the logical extention appears.

Speaking of which ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nG_sW_Zfp4
Title: Re: Why does he take that with him?
Post by: S.O.F on October 17, 2021, 07:11:11 PM
And ... the logical extention appears.

Speaking of which ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nG_sW_Zfp4

Dragging out the Breakfast in America Super Tramp tracks GP
Title: Re: Why does he take that with him?
Post by: GamesPoet on October 17, 2021, 08:24:32 PM
Who wooda thunk it?  Showing my age I'm sure. :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Why does he take that with him?
Post by: Padre on October 18, 2021, 12:03:52 PM
Every one of thousands of bases, flat, plain green flock. Uniformity. And, if means, when I take photos I can hide the edges with brushed up flock or gravel and they look like they're standing on the ground. Or I can more easily photo edit the base away for an indoor scene.

These two, for example, are actually on black, yet to be flocked bases. But a few minutes of MS Paint 3D and the bases are gone!

(https://i.imgur.com/p38r74X.jpg)
Title: Re: Why does he take that with him?
Post by: brr-icy on October 26, 2021, 05:47:04 PM
I've kind of themed mine to go with the army, pale green paint with green flock and a little gravel for empire, snow and rocks for ogres, vines for lizardmen, bright green bases with static grass for bretonnian, black for chaos, etc. going to do mud on my skaven as their bases are all brown already
Title: Re: Why does he take that with him?
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on October 26, 2021, 10:19:55 PM
These two, for example, are actually on black, yet to be flocked bases. But a few minutes of MS Paint 3D and the bases are gone!

(https://i.imgur.com/p38r74X.jpg)

With a bit more effort, you could try to emulate Holbein

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/35/HOLBEIN-Hans-the-Younger-The-Ambassadors.jpg/1024px-HOLBEIN-Hans-the-Younger-The-Ambassadors.jpg)
Title: Re: Why does he take that with him?
Post by: GamesPoet on October 27, 2021, 12:00:23 AM
What is that blurry thing across the bottom of the picture/painting :icon_question:
Title: Re: Why does he take that with him?
Post by: Padre on October 27, 2021, 07:57:19 AM
Change the angle you look at it from and then think about mortality.
Title: Re: Why does he take that with him?
Post by: Rowsdower on October 27, 2021, 11:25:23 AM
Anne Boleyn's head after Henry sat on it :biggriin:
Title: Re: Why does he take that with him?
Post by: Perambulator on October 27, 2021, 08:50:18 PM
Anne Boleyn's head after Henry sat on it :biggriin:


 ::heretic:: ::heretic:: ::heretic::  ( :eusa_clap: )
Title: Re: Why does he take that with him?
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on October 27, 2021, 10:02:05 PM
It would be a very plausible answer, if not for the fact that the painting was finished 1533, and Anne Boleyn was finished 1536.
Title: Re: Why does he take that with him?
Post by: The Black Knight on November 04, 2021, 10:56:46 PM
There is also a sneaky little cross in the upper left corner, peeking from under that lovely green velvet. More things to consider here for these two young, wealthy, influential, and well-educated men (just look at all those instruments on the table).

Title: Re: Why does he take that with him?
Post by: Rowsdower on November 06, 2021, 11:29:37 AM
There is also a sneaky little cross in the upper left corner, peeking from under that lovely green velvet. More things to consider here for these two young, wealthy, influential, and well-educated men (just look at all those instruments on the table).


I never noticed that before. I see the globes and other doo-dah's. Henry's empire wasn't as large as Philips was it? My renaissance knowledge is a bit limited.
Title: Re: Why does he take that with him?
Post by: commandant on November 07, 2021, 11:21:39 PM
Its fairly reasonable to say no empire was as large as Philip's.
Title: Re: Why does he take that with him?
Post by: Rowsdower on November 09, 2021, 12:39:12 AM
When I was ten, I had a globe shaped pencil sharpener. It was based on [i'm guessing] Magellian maps. Everyone in my class got amusement out of it.
Title: Re: Why does he take that with him?
Post by: Michael Stockin on November 10, 2021, 09:59:31 AM
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Title: Re: Why does he take that with him?
Post by: GamesPoet on November 10, 2021, 12:29:51 PM
Uh oh. :icon_eek: :icon_lol: :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Why does he take that with him?
Post by: Michael Stockin on November 10, 2021, 12:34:06 PM
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Title: Re: Why does he take that with him?
Post by: GamesPoet on November 10, 2021, 01:30:09 PM
We all do things that we wish we hadn't.  Don't let it get ya too down.
Title: Re: Why does he take that with him?
Post by: Michael Stockin on November 10, 2021, 01:39:41 PM
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Title: Re: Why does he take that with him?
Post by: GamesPoet on November 11, 2021, 12:25:52 AM
I won't tell anyone, including Syphon. :icon_wink: :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Why does he take that with him?
Post by: Syphon on November 11, 2021, 05:19:59 PM
(https://i1.sndcdn.com/artworks-vSruVAtVdkxxaXqD-T41zhQ-t500x500.jpg)
Title: Re: Why does he take that with him?
Post by: GamesPoet on November 12, 2021, 11:11:50 AM
 :icon_lol: :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Why does he take that with him?
Post by: Rowsdower on November 12, 2021, 12:09:28 PM
Ist there a  warmaster  Elf mage that's  mounted on a cloud of magic. Is that how he travels?