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Rumours and what's new to be expected of 40K 10th Edition!
Gankom:
A lot of pretty big rule changes coming.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/03/23/a-mindblowing-new-edition-of-warhammer-40000-is-coming/
Edit:
--- Quote ---These big changes to rules and armies mean that the current range of codexes are being retired. The rules in them don’t work with the new edition, but remember that the rules for all your units will be available free online at launch.
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GamesPoet:
Some other highlights from the pre-review ...
On starter box:
--- Quote ---You’d better believe there’ll be new models – there’s a massive new launch set on the way – and we might be biased, but we think it’s the best Warhammer box ever.
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On new rules:
--- Quote ---There are some big changes to gameplay, which has been completely overhauled for this edition. We started with what the fans were telling us about the game you play.
You told us that while Warhammer 40,000 is a fun game, there are parts that are overcomplicated, and that the learning curve for new players is pretty steep. In particular, many felt there were too many stratagems and too much complexity in army selection. We’ve listened and the new edition has been simplified – but it’s not simple.
This is still the rich, deep wargame that you know and love – we’ve just doubled down on the best bits. So instead of a huge raft of faction stratagems, you’ll have access to a handful of the best ones. There’re also a few new universal stratagems which anyone can use, that allow you to be reactive in your opponent’s turn.
There are improvements like this everywhere – in turn structure, army selection, morale, terrain, missions, the ways in which characters interact with units, and more. The list goes on, and we’ll explain more about each of these changes in the coming weeks.
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On data sheets:
--- Quote ---Maybe the biggest change in the new edition is to datasheets.
The way core information on a datasheet is presented has changed, and with it we took the opportunity to re-stat every unit in Warhammer 40,000.
Every unit has new and reevaluated rules, so every army will feel new from day one of the new edition.
This huge update has also given us the opportunity to look again at lethality and durability across the entire game, and rebalance it at a stroke – something we could never do outside the launch of a new edition.
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On the size of rules:
--- Quote ---You also told us that you didn’t want to carry as many books with you to games.
On the first day of the new edition, the rules for every datasheet in 40k will be free to download, or available to buy as convenient and portable card decks. Even your faction and army rules now take up just a couple of pages.
The whole experience is more convenient, compact, and efficient than ever before, and it delivers amazing games with less desperate leafing between pages looking for that one special rule.
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On army selection:
--- Quote ---Army selection is equally straightforward: pick a faction, a warlord, and the units you like (just no more than three of any one type*), and stay within your points limit. That’s it!
You no longer have to fit your army into a force organization chart, or compromise on the army you really want. It’s a simple and liberating system, and opens the door to all kinds of fun, thematic or unusual armies.
These big changes to rules and armies mean that the current range of codexes are being retired. The rules in them don’t work with the new edition, but remember that the rules for all your units will be available free online at launch.
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On codexs:
--- Quote ---Don’t go throwing your codex in the recycling just yet. As well as months of gaming left with the current edition, your codexes remain a rich repository of lore and inspiration on your army, and one that won’t be immediately replaced.
Codexes will return in time to replace the free rules, but when they do the complexity of the game won’t increase, thanks to a one-in-one-out ethos for army and sub-faction rules. Effectively, you will only ever need your unit datasheets, the two pages of rules that govern your chosen army (available in your codex, on cards, or digitally), plus the core rules and whatever mission you’re playing.
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On Arks of Omen and Crusade rules:
--- Quote ---There’s one exception to note. The Arks of Omen books and Boarding Patrols will persist, so you can keep purging those space hulks into the new edition and beyond.
Likewise, for those Eternal Crusaders out there who have built up a mighty host through their narrative games and want to bring their Crusade army with them into the new edition, there are rules to let you do this too.
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On new Combat Patrol way to play:
--- Quote ---As well as continuing support for Crusade and matched play, the new edition will introduce a brand new way to play the game: Combat Patrol.
This version is designed to be easy to collect and easy to play. Combat Patrol pitches small preset and balanced forces against each other, with the armies made of Combat Patrol boxes!
This simplified version of Warhammer 40,000 that’s perfect for beginners, but also means that anyone starting a new force has a game they can begin to play very quickly, without having to build and paint 2,000 points of troops before a dice is even rolled. It’s also great for hobby butterflies, who hop from one project to the next and prefer to sample a little of each army’s nectar.
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They said previously this was going to be "seismic". Seems like they've put a bunch of effort into this, and they mentioned more will be coming in an ongoing manner.
GamesPoet:
Preview video ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X39LxfGfRk4
By the way, apparently all data sheets will be free to down load.
GamesPoet:
New "cinematic" trailer ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X98ImCbhjnI
KTG17:
I think everything I have seen on 10th is very cool. I have to laugh at how GW just kills off the old codexes after people have just bought them, but the changes are needed I think. If the trailer is any indication of what we will get in the starter (like Indomintus) then I will be pretty excited. The Tyranids look great.
I am also excited that this is the last edition of 40k I will ever buy regardless what happens. After owning 10 editions, I just want to sit on my pile of shame and work on everything I have collected. I think this edition is a great way to close things out.
I also hope they do a similar subscription service like Imperium 40,000, but to be honest not all sure what they could include for the marines that I don't already have, and I do not want doubles.
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