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cisse:
Hello all!
I am currently trying to optimize my army list. I've been using a list like this for some time now, and some of you might remember the first incarnations of it (but then again, even I don't, so...). What I'm especially looking for is opinions about some tough choices I still have to make. Thanks in advance!

LORD

elector count, 146
full plate, shield, great weapon, holy relic

HEROES

captain, 114
pegasus, full plate, shield, great weapon

battle wizard, 140
level 2 upgrade, rod of power

battle wizard, 120
level 2 upgrade, dispell scroll

CORE

24 swordsmen, 273
standard, musician, griffon banner
detachment 1: 10 free company
detachment 2: 5 archers

23 spearmen, 266
standard, musician
detachment 1: 10 free company
detachment 2: 5 handgunners

6 knights IC, 221
full command, war banner

5 knights, 115

5 huntsmen, 50

SPECIAL

great cannon, 100

great cannon, 100

6 pistoliers, 114

RARE

hellblaster, 125

9 DOW duellists, 81


TOTAL: 2015 points

Now...

Are the IC knights worht it? In my previous lists, I've been using a unit of them with a warrior priest, and they are great against hated armies. But will they perform well enough without the priest? After all, it's a serious investment in points. Should I be better off taking a unit of vanilla knights?

I normally don't use magic; but with this combe I'm hoping to take part in that phase of the game as well. Again, is it worth it? I could drop the wizards, and take a plain old scroll caddy.

If I drop the IC and the wizards and take vanilla knights and a scroll caddy, I save 256 points-enough for another unit of swordsmen with detachment. Would this be a better investment? Or would it be a more versatile list as it is above?

Phew... Well, thanks if you took the time to read through all this, and any comments are welcomed. Cheers!

wissenlander:
If you're facing a magic heavy army, then the wizards are fine.  If not, then maybe more troopers would be worth it.  The IC Knights are a nice touch with that strength, but if you're using them for flank charges then they'd probably be alright as a vanilla unit.  I hope that helps a little.

Janus:
Drop the Counts Holy Relic and shield and give him armour of meteoric Iron.. That saves you about 16 points.. and you'll have a 2000 pts list :)
Also your count doesn't really need the Relic IMO.


--- Quote ---Are the IC knights worht it? In my previous lists, I've been using a unit of them with a warrior priest, and they are great against hated armies. But will they perform well enough without the priest? After all, it's a serious investment in points. Should I be better off taking a unit of vanilla knights?
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Inner circle knights are good! 1+ saves and strength 6 on the charge.. You just can''t say no to that. Maybe remove the magic banner or replace with the steel standard.


--- Quote ---I normally don't use magic; but with this combe I'm hoping to take part in that phase of the game as well. Again, is it worth it? I could drop the wizards, and take a plain old scroll caddy.
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It could be worth it.. depends on the opponent though.

I quite like your list.. I'm not a fan of using DOW but that's just me..

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