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Offline anarchistica

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« on: December 25, 2003, 05:23:38 PM »
The former 2 threads i made on this were deleted, so here we go again. I've changed him quite a bit since then. Hand Of Morr is less powerful, i've added all rules you need to field him and he stopped hating Death Magi and now hates followers of Khaine, which he should according to the fluff.

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Priest Of Morr

Hero, 95 points/model.

M-4, WS-4, BS-3, S-4, T-4, W-2, I-4, A-2, LD-8

Weapon: hand weapon

May choose either an additional hand weapon (+4 pts), or a scythe (+4 pts, uses the same rules as a halberd)

May choose either light armour (+2 pts) or heavy armour (+4 pts), and may also carry a shield (+2 pts).

May ride a warhorse (+10 pts), which may have barding (+4 pts).

Special Rules

Morr's Warrior: Hates Undead (like Vampire Counts and Tomb Kings), any other model using the Lore Of Necromancy, Dark Elf Assassins and Witch Elves. This extends to unit joined by the Warrior-Priest, but not to any characters in it. Note that this even applies if they are normally Immune To Psychology.

Follower of Morr: Immune to Fear and Terror.

Blessing Of Morr: The precense of the Priest of Morr adds 1 Dice to the Dispel Pool of the army.

May be given magic items from the Common or Empire magic item lists with a maximum total value of 50 points. He can't use the following magic items: Sword Of Sigismund, Sword Of Righteous Steel, Gilded Armour, Jade Amulet, Armour Of Meteoric Iron, Sigil Of Sigmar, Icon Of Magnus.

Can't use his Prayers on Priests of other Gods.

Can't join units joined by Priests of other Gods.

Can't join units dedicated to other Gods, like White Wolves, Sons Of Mannan or Knights Of The Twin-tailed Comet.

Has 4 Prayers. These are Bound Spells with a Power Level of 3.

Prayers

Hand Of Morr: Cast on one enemy Undead unit within 12". The unit takes a test as if the General was destroyed (or the Hierophant for Tomb Kings, etc.). They thus take a LD-test and if they fail it they lose Wounds equal to the amount they fail the test by. No saves of any kind can save these Wounds. As this test represents exactly what happens when the General (or the Hierophant for Tomb Kings, etc.) is destroyed, characters aren't affected by this.

Sanctity Of The Fallen: Lasts until the start of your next Magic Phase; No models can be raised through whatever means within 12" of the Warrior-Priest. Also, Undead models cannot be healed within those 12".

Morr's Protection: The Priest and any unit joined by him have Magic Resistance (2) against spells from the Lore of Necromancy. Any spells of those 2 Lores currently affecting them are dispelled automatically. Also, they are immune to Hand Of Dust, the attack will simply not work on them and they get no damage at all from it.

Death Holds No Fear: Any unit joined by the Priest is Immune to Fear and Terror.

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I think he's much better now. Any opinions? Also, any ideas for some special magic items for this character? I was thinking perhaps some holy water (throwing weapon or like poison smeared on weapons), crucifixes (ld-test or Vampire can't attack him), garlic (Vampire -1 to hit him), stakes, silver weapons (for him or perhaps also the unit he joins), a magic scythe, etc.

EDIT: Changed Hand of Morr.
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« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2003, 07:49:52 PM »
Why would the priest hate Dark Elf Assassins and Witch Elves?

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« Reply #2 on: December 25, 2003, 08:23:55 PM »
Didn't he say something about fluff?

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« Reply #3 on: December 25, 2003, 10:20:00 PM »
Morr doesn't like his brother Khaine. This carries over unto Morr's followers not liking Khaine's followers.

EDIT: And according to WFRP fluff Morr's followers must always oppose Necromancers and Khaine's followers.
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« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2003, 07:44:43 PM »
Please don't use WFRP fluff, it often contracticts WHFB fluff.
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« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2003, 09:34:38 PM »
nice.. but 2  nice.. this is characters designed to kill one army.. the undead..

look at Sigmar and ulrics Priests.. they have almost the same thing... wnana make something that differs.


make a lord 2 the empire that has better Ws then a Goblin hero, better attacks then a saurus hero, better ld then a Elf Hero and is a Elector count..

i think the Empire Elector Count is 2 weak cmpared with the rest of the lords in other armies.. ok we got a guy that can lead knights and has Ws6 (WOW, not a vampire count of the undead has ws8(6if a necrarch) and well 2 me a fighter is supposed 2 hit ppl on 3+ against a magician. then look at the point costs.. he pay ALOT of points 2 get that knight unit immune 2 phsycologi (chaos pays 50? pts on the unit so it hase the same effect)


on the other side.. who cares the all the other races get revision sand the empire not.. so we can still be the "perfect" army created by Alessio..
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« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2003, 09:38:17 PM »
Yep, please don't mix WHFRPG-fluff and "actual" WHFB-fluff. Khaine is no more a god of mankind, but a god of elven history, he has not much to do anymore with the old WHFRPG-Khaine and surely isn't Morr's brother anymore.

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« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2003, 01:52:10 PM »
Is there anywhere apart from the books to find the official fluff for the warhammer world?

Thanks.

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« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2003, 09:18:41 PM »
Quote from: Heinrich_the_Grim
nice.. but 2  nice.. this is characters designed to kill one army.. the undead..

True, but so are the Black Knights of Morr. And followers of Morr are supposed to be anti-Undead. ;)

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Yep, please don't mix WHFRPG-fluff and "actual" WHFB-fluff. Khaine is no more a god of mankind, but a god of elven history, he has not much to do anymore with the old WHFRPG-Khaine and surely isn't Morr's brother anymore.

Where did you get that from? I'll ask Ian Hawkes (he wrote the Cult of Ulric list and the article on religions in the Empire that was in UKWD279), but i think he'll agree with me since he said earlier on:

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Originally said by Ian Hawkes
Good spot on Khaine followers - I'd throw that in as well.

If you've already got WFRP, there's not a great deal of information in that WD you can use, to be honest - and I should know, I wrote it. All but a couple of tiny details are taken from WFRP, so if you've got that you're sorted.

Also in his article Khaine is mentioned as being worshipped in the Old World in secret - so he's still a God of humans as well. And he was mentioned in a novel, i think Realm of Chaos, as well, as patron of the local assassins.
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« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2003, 10:45:12 PM »
Yeah, that and in the DE army book, it mentions the fact (in style of an Empire church of sigmar message) that there are many covens in the old world of humans


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« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2003, 01:23:34 PM »
Reply from mr Ian Hawkes:

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Khaine and Morr is a tricky proposition. I can't give you any kind of official answer here because I never asked, but I'm 99% sure the following is the case:

Khaine is for the most part an elven god. There are some humans who worship him. Those are the facts. The rest enters the realm of mythology.

What I promise you you can rule out is any kind of definitive family tree of gods; the gods are not bound by the same rules as mortals in that regard. When it says Myrmidia is Verena's daughter, or Ulric is Taal's son, that's mythology created by Warhammer world humans, not fact.

What I would surmise happened is this: that Khaine worship somehow spread to humans via contact with elves; Morr worshippers were reviled by this, and worked the 'exiled brother' concept into the tales of their god's deeds in order to account for the intruder. Cut to present day, and humans believe them to be brothers.

Therefore, it's perfectly reasonable to say that Morr followers Hate Khaine followers, but because of mythology, not fact; there's no way you can say that Khaine IS or ISN'T Morr's brother. Humans in the Warhammer world (those who had heard of Khaine anyway) would probably have heard stories that feature Khaine and Morr as brothers, but that doesn't really mean anything in cosmological terms.

So i guess it's all ok.

Magic items will likely follow.

Oh, and is anyone interested in rules for Warrior-Priests of Taal, Myrmidia and Verena? (note that those were made by the guy who made the WP of Ulric, not by me)
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« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2003, 04:59:10 PM »
I like your priest. Very characterful and fluffy too. And he isn't overpoered. Remember that most Undead armies have lots of magic, thus big amount of dispel dice so dispeling one prayer is no problem.

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« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2004, 07:26:31 PM »
[quote="anarchist] WFRP fluff Morr's followers must always oppose Necromancers and Khaine's followers.[/quote]


call me a noob,what the heck is WFRP?a stupid noob question i kno,is it warhammer fantasy role play? :roll:
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« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2004, 07:38:25 PM »
yes
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« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2004, 07:47:21 PM »
Quote from: Gyg
I like your priest. Very characterful and fluffy too. And he isn't overpoered. Remember that most Undead armies have lots of magic, thus big amount of dispel dice so dispeling one prayer is no problem.

Thanks, i appreciate it.

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WFRP fluff Morr's followers must always oppose Necromancers and Khaine's followers.


call me a noob,what the heck is WFRP?a stupid noob question i kno,is it warhammer fantasy role play? :roll:

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Over on Portent we were working a bit on this too, and in this thread you can find rules for Warrior-Priests of Taal, Verena and Myrmidia written by Ian Hawkes, who wrote the Priest of Ulric rules too (and the Cult of Ulric list and the article on religion in the old world in UKWD270).
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