Author Topic: Which army to resurect, Woodies, Skaven or Daemons? (Read 10974 times)

Crimsonsphinx · « **on:** April 02, 2009, 04:37:31 PM »

Im in a quandry which army to try to finish painting next. I have my empire army about 97% completed, and I need a next target.

My three choices are in various stages of being painted. My woodelfs are about half done, you can see some examples here;
http://s210.photobucket.com/albums/bb260/crimsonsphinx/Asrai/

My skaven are just about started painted. I have around 12 models done of over 300.

My daemons have around 2 units painted and a handful of characters.

Any ideas guys?

MrDWhitey · « **Reply #1 on:** April 02, 2009, 04:38:45 PM »

Skavens, of all 3 choices, look most fun. Daemons are unfun dependant on most lists. Wood Elves make the other player hate you, skaven can be pure awesome.

Mathi Alfblut · « **Reply #2 on:** April 02, 2009, 04:39:01 PM »

Woodies!

Crimsonsphinx · « **Reply #3 on:** April 02, 2009, 04:43:47 PM »

Woodelfs have the awesome model range, and the fact I have considerably less of them to paint in their favour.

Skaven are the most like me. Thanquol would be what I would be like as a general, so I have a lot of good fun with skaven.

Finally daemons. My own army is not a power build. No special characters and no more than one of any unit means it can't really be. Unfortunatly these also need a lot of painting, and the models are seriously nice, meaning I would need to spend more time painting them than skaven. Also im not sure my opponants like these, as I have only ever won with them, apart from a loss against another daemon army!

MrDWhitey · « **Reply #4 on:** April 02, 2009, 04:46:56 PM »

Thanquol was ALMOST enough to make me get Skaven. Seriously. That guy is my favourite character in warhammer. I'm also likened to him close to daily by friends who are into warhammer.

Being a cartoon villain is always fun.

Crimsonsphinx · « **Reply #5 on:** April 02, 2009, 04:57:49 PM »

Leading from the back makes sense to me

As does blaming your inferiors or superiors for mistakes

t12161991 · « **Reply #6 on:** April 02, 2009, 05:00:05 PM »

Woodies! If nothing else, they're completely different from any other army.

MrDWhitey · « **Reply #7 on:** April 02, 2009, 05:00:52 PM »

Quote from: Crimsonsphinx on April 02, 2009, 04:57:49 PM

Leading from the back makes sense to me As does blaming your inferiors or superiors for mistakes

That's exactly how I play with Empire aswell

Quote from: t12161991 on April 02, 2009, 05:00:05 PM

Woodies! If nothing else, they're completely different from any other army.

Traitor.

Crimsonsphinx · « **Reply #8 on:** April 02, 2009, 05:03:55 PM »

The biggest problem I have with doing woodelfs is I really need to spend money on them. The other two armies have all the models I want for them, but I am in need of some money spending on my woodelfs to get to where I want them to be.

Otherwise these are the front running army, simply due to having painted several units and heroes already.

t12161991 · « **Reply #9 on:** April 02, 2009, 05:04:58 PM »

What, just because I ~~sold my~~ put my Empire army on hold to ~~finance~~ focus on my Wood Elf one I'm a traitor am I?

EDIT: What units do you need? I probably have some extra's that I don't want...

MrDWhitey · « **Reply #10 on:** April 02, 2009, 05:06:03 PM »

Yes. If I found you in real life I would be forced to play you and destroy you utterly.

Then set you on fire.

Crimsonsphinx · « **Reply #11 on:** April 02, 2009, 05:06:28 PM »

Im also undefeated with woodelfs, that makes them somewhat unpopular

I have not had anyone want to play them for over a year, due to a reputation for being "overpowered".

Skaven on the other hand have only ever won one game, with me being slaughtered in every other encounter, or at best scraping a draw simply by having too many units to lose out right, then retreating to the other side of the board to conserve victory points late on.

MrDWhitey · « **Reply #12 on:** April 02, 2009, 05:08:11 PM »

Don't worry, I auto disregard comments which have the claim to be undefeated.

t12161991 · « **Reply #13 on:** April 02, 2009, 05:09:06 PM »

As soon as my Woodies are ~~finished~~ of a sufficient size to play almost any battle with, I will start up Empire again. And Dark Elves. And Lizzies. And...

Crimsonsphinx · « **Reply #14 on:** April 02, 2009, 05:10:52 PM »

Quote from: MrDwhitey on April 02, 2009, 05:08:11 PM

Don't worry, I auto disregard comments which have the claim to be undefeated.

Can I point out, I only ever played 15 games, and a lot of them were in a fixed list 1500 point league where they benfited a lot from 6th edition skirmish rules. I suspect these days they will do rather worse...

MrDWhitey · « **Reply #15 on:** April 02, 2009, 05:12:39 PM »

Don't worry about it. I believe you, but I like pointing it out that most people I would not.

I get tired of people claiming being undefeated because they're on the internet.

t12161991 · « **Reply #16 on:** April 02, 2009, 05:14:31 PM »

Go by percentages. And yes, Woodies are quite a bit weaker now than in 6th edition. I think I'm around 55-17.5-17.5 % for w/l/d. I've played almost all my games in 7th.

Crimsonsphinx · « **Reply #17 on:** April 02, 2009, 05:16:39 PM »

Percentages, obviously that draw nerfs my rating down to about 92% wins

My poor skaven are around 1 win, 3 draws and 20 or 30 losses.... Whats that? about a 2.5% win rate?

Empire I am around 40% win, which is okay, as I tend to get mostly draws.

Daemons I only played 5 games, and four were wins so 80%. My mortal chaos were around 30% wins.

Notice how armies I use a lot lose a lot?

t12161991 · « **Reply #18 on:** April 02, 2009, 05:18:03 PM »

I'm at 100% loss rate for DE! But then I've played like 1 real game. (others were 400 point warbands).

MrDWhitey · « **Reply #19 on:** April 02, 2009, 05:19:08 PM »

All my games are in 7th edition, I don't track wins losses because I prefer to eat a lot of food.

I win less than I lose, because I often play people who've played for many years, and I generally play soft lists versus hard ones, until I play in leagues, where last time I was second with around 10 games played to someone who had played 15, and he only had a single wins lead.

There, there's my e-peen stroking done, when it matters I rock. So there.

Anyway, go skaven.

Quote from: Crimsonsphinx on April 02, 2009, 05:16:39 PM

Notice how armies I use a lot lose a lot?

No. I noticed your daemons win alot. This is not a surprise.

Quote from: t12161991 on April 02, 2009, 05:18:03 PM

I'm at 100% loss rate for DE! But then I've played like 1 real game. (others were 400 point warbands).

I've only played 3 games with them, won 2, first win was due to a plan working, which naturally wasn't due to ability on my part, but my opponents bad luck

, other WAS a fluke. (doesn't count a ridiculous 4 player game which I wont mention ever again)

Captain Tineal · « **Reply #20 on:** April 02, 2009, 05:22:36 PM »

Go Skaven. They're cool.

Crimsonsphinx · « **Reply #21 on:** April 02, 2009, 05:24:05 PM »

I keep all my lists on my pc, and write down if it won or lost, hence knowing what to change for next time!

At the moment a draw is the most common result I get, with wins and losses being around equal. I am not claiming to be a fantastic general, only that certain armies are a lot easier to use.

I only played a few games with daemons. Here is my last used list, see if you think it is over powered.

Keeper of Secrets
Siren Song, Soul Hunger, level 3 wizard, Torment Blade

Herald of Slaanesh
Many armed monstrosity

Herald of Khorne
Armour of Khorne
BSB, Banner of Unholy Victory

Herald of Tzeench
Level 2 wizard, Master of Sorcery

19 bloodletters full command
19 daemonettes, full command
10 horrors

6 seekers
3 flamers
4 fiends

2245 points.

MrDWhitey · « **Reply #22 on:** April 02, 2009, 05:30:59 PM »

Quote from: Crimsonsphinx on April 02, 2009, 05:24:05 PM

only that certain armies are a lot easier to use.

At this point I shake your hand and buy you a beer.

Mathi Alfblut · « **Reply #23 on:** April 02, 2009, 06:34:48 PM »

No kidding!

Yeah, I am a pretty lousy WE general, but I like them nevertheless.

Midaski · « **Reply #24 on:** April 02, 2009, 07:21:06 PM »

Back OT

None of them - buy the Shadowsword and start IG ..................

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Author Topic: Which army to resurect, Woodies, Skaven or Daemons? (Read 10974 times)