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Offline Kwisatz Haderach

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How to Equip a Wizard Lord on a Peg?
« on: October 22, 2010, 03:43:54 PM »
For fluff reasons, I want a Wizard Lord on a Pegasus in my army.  What would be the best kit to give him to keep him alive?

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Re: How to Equip a Wizard Lord on a Peg?
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2010, 04:01:39 PM »
Fantastic question.

We used to have a number of players on this forum whom used the PegLord on a regular basis. It created this fantastic little sub culture that I really miss. You could serf older accounts but my advice would be talk a little more about what you plan to have him do or acomplish.

My personal advice is its not the size that counts, its how you use him.

I rarely equip my own peg wizard lord with any "preservation" items. Unless I am trying to do somthing with VHS I concentrate on his spell casting and making shure that he is not easy prey. Placement, terrain and your lore are going to have alot to do with this.
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Re: How to Equip a Wizard Lord on a Peg?
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2010, 04:24:22 PM »
Im sorry, that was a poor answer.

Common equipment at 1500pts for me includes:
Sword of Justice
Holy Relic
White Cloak
Grey Wand
Crystal Ball
Casket of Sorcery
VHS
Feedback Scroll
Dispell Scroll
Channelling Staff
Potion of Foolhardyness
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Re: How to Equip a Wizard Lord on a Peg?
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2010, 09:09:09 PM »
Currently Flying mine around with a 4+ Ward Save item and the Seal of Destruction.

The Ward save is essential as he's a magnet for shooting.

The Seal is more for fun. Nothing says in your face like taking away the enemy's killer spell / combo (albeit only roughly half the time)

Oh and he's a Shadow Wizard. I find the added mobility of the Pegasus means he's in Short range more often for casting spells. Thus I can use the unboosted versions of spells and conserve Power Dice for casting more spells per turn.


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Re: How to Equip a Wizard Lord on a Peg?
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2010, 11:32:16 PM »
ward of 4+, auto passing characteristic tests.
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Re: How to Equip a Wizard Lord on a Peg?
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2010, 04:41:40 AM »
Though there is no game related reason to put the wizard on a peg, if you felt you must give him the ward at least after that think about taking balthazar.
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Re: How to Equip a Wizard Lord on a Peg?
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2010, 04:45:04 AM »
Though there is no game related reason to put the wizard on a peg

Unless someone was character hunting, Gave the Wiz the VHS, Sword of Fate, and Talisman of Endurance. Then put him on a peg and he can race across the field and kill the enemy general. Works great for vamps.
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Re: How to Equip a Wizard Lord on a Peg?
« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2010, 05:14:57 AM »
If the general were dumb enough to accept that challenge!
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Re: How to Equip a Wizard Lord on a Peg?
« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2010, 06:33:44 AM »
If the general were dumb enough to accept that challenge!

 Well yes, but in cases like WoC they have no choice but to accept, or if in a unit of 5 cav, or solo on foot.
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Re: How to Equip a Wizard Lord on a Peg?
« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2010, 09:41:27 AM »
If you want him as a mobile magic platform, I'd suggest a ward save since the Peggy counts as monstrous beast (using the monstrous cav rules) and the whole model benefits from the ward save. No more Turn 1, fly out. Turn 2, suck up a bunch of missile fire and magic. Turn 3, start walking away from dead pegasus.
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Re: How to Equip a Wizard Lord on a Peg?
« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2010, 09:59:27 AM »
ward of 4+, auto passing characteristic tests.
The Crimson Amulet is only a 6+ ward. Very good in a unit but alone on a peg I'd have to forgo auto-passing characteristic tests and go for an improved ward.


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Re: How to Equip a Wizard Lord on a Peg?
« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2010, 11:10:41 AM »
Can a character on a peg join units of infantry?  I know that characters cannot join units of flyers, but I cannot find anything about units cannot be joined by flying characters.

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Re: How to Equip a Wizard Lord on a Peg?
« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2010, 12:21:54 PM »
Yes, he can join, but won't get Look Out, Sir! and you'd have to allocate shooting (not really relevant unless the unit is small or the volume of shots is huge).

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Re: How to Equip a Wizard Lord on a Peg?
« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2010, 09:41:53 PM »
Yes, he can join, but won't get Look Out, Sir! and you'd have to allocate shooting (not really relevant unless the unit is small or the volume of shots is huge).

And he also has to be positioned on the side of the unit I believe because of the size of his base vs the infantry.
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Re: How to Equip a Wizard Lord on a Peg?
« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2010, 11:30:36 PM »
Yes, he can join, but won't get Look Out, Sir! and you'd have to allocate shooting (not really relevant unless the unit is small or the volume of shots is huge).

And he also has to be positioned on the side of the unit I believe because of the size of his base vs the infantry.

On a 40mm base you can put him anywhere he fits, within the normal character placement rules of course. It's a character on s 50mm base that would have to go on the edge as it doesn't combine with 20mm bases.

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Re: How to Equip a Wizard Lord on a Peg?
« Reply #15 on: October 24, 2010, 01:30:05 PM »
I assume Empire Pegasi go on 40mm bases, like Bretonian Pegasi?

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Re: How to Equip a Wizard Lord on a Peg?
« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2010, 09:57:51 PM »
I assume Empire Pegasi go on 40mm bases, like Bretonian Pegasi?

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Re: How to Equip a Wizard Lord on a Peg?
« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2010, 04:36:33 AM »
This is something I examined in great length when the 8th ed rulebook came out.

Flying units cannot join units.

Being on a Pegasus makes him a flying unit.
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Re: How to Equip a Wizard Lord on a Peg?
« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2010, 05:17:37 AM »
I think that's a 7th edition rule.

Characters can't join a unit of flyers or units of monsters, or if the character is a monster or riding a monster he cannot join a unit. But a pegasus is a monstrous beast and not a monster. I could be wrong, but couldn't find anything else (though GW is good at hiding rules in obscure spots).
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Re: How to Equip a Wizard Lord on a Peg?
« Reply #19 on: October 26, 2010, 05:30:00 AM »
It's in 8th as well.
You need to read 3 spots in conjunction.

I will find the references when I get home tonight (If its not too late)

In effect though, the rule means the same as it did in 7th.

In 8th, I was hoping DESPERATELY for characters on fliers and in chariots to be able to join units.
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Re: How to Equip a Wizard Lord on a Peg?
« Reply #20 on: October 26, 2010, 07:07:52 AM »
Well, it's standard practice for GW to scatter relevant rules over widely scattered pages. I thought a character on a flying monstrous beast couldn't join a unit, but I couldn't find anything to support that, so any further evidence is appreciated.
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Re: How to Equip a Wizard Lord on a Peg?
« Reply #21 on: October 26, 2010, 03:26:26 PM »
Hmmm,

From my browse through just now - it seems you guys are right. A pegasus can join units (except to make a unit with another pegasus). A griffon cannot.

Seems as though I was only interested in making pegasus units, and putting a Griffon or War Altar in Knights, that I never noticed this...

Interesting.
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